EUROVISION 2024: DUTCH BROADCASTER AVROTROS RESPONDS TO NETHERLANDS & JOOST KLEIN DISQUALIFICATION
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- Опубликовано: 27 сен 2024
- Avrotros Statement:
'We have taken note of the disqualification by the EBU. AVROTROS finds the disqualification disproportionate and is shocked by the decision. We deeply regret this and we will come back to this later.'
Shame on the EBU.
How can you judge? We all dont know what Happend.
The EBU are bastards for kicking Joost Klein out of the final. The crowd really enjoyed Europapa and so did I. I hope he gets a second chance to represent the Netherlands next year.
@@BarrieRobson he was kicked for a reason.
@@BarrieRobsonstop swearing
The Netherlands need to pull out of this years competition and take no part in the voting
It's not up to you
@@viderethevaccinatorfromhol7536 no its up to the Dutch people
It's up to the Dutch. If he did something unacceptable, his career is over. It has happened before to the best names in the business.
Unfortunately, until now, we have nothing to confirm that he did anything unacceptable. Nothing.
If it's foul play, we should never participate again.
@@viderethevaccinatorfromhol7536 the incident was reported as an altercation between him and a photographer as he came off stage
@@bryanbrookes6366 It was said the only thing was a threat whayever that means.
Joost was in the spotlight. If in a public context, as it has been insinuated, a fight, even verbal, had occurred, I think there would have been thousands of videos and photos to prove it. Instead, there are even fake rumors.
It's horrible to throw mud, discredit a person's image, without proof.
Very "convenient" for EBU to delete the song that has the most views and streams.
ESC: Shame on you!
we don't know what happened, ...yet,
one thing is for sure Joost Klein is officially a Eurovision legend now, whether it will be for the good or the bad
He is already a winner without finally
This year's contest will be forever remembered as the Eurovision Cinism Contest
And don’t forgot the decision that set the dominoes off for this mess. We’ve been saying this the whole time and were told off for “being cynical”. You can’t make such a big decision and not expect chaos and pandemonium to ensue.
This is the end of ESC... No explanation on the "incident"... What is the ground for this disqualification?
police confirmed that nothing fysical happend, only some words. Thats explains the 'disproportional' reaction. Shame on EBu
I s r a e l
@claudiarieche511
Wrong
No it’s not the end
@@claudiarieche511 Stop spreading fake news!
First off, during your live broadcast, one of the presenters, kept implying that this incident was about physical abuse. Several viewers stated that the official statement from the swedish police was that the incident was about VERBAL abuse. That was really not good, this way rumours are spread.
Second of all, if this incident was a verbal abuse, I personally think that with the investigation still going on, a disqualification is indeed disproportional. I mean...ongoing investigation, what happens when the outcome is that Joost is innocent? This disqualification is setting a very scary example. Next year, another person can make a similar complaint about a strong contester . The EBU once again is showing that they are not capable of handling and communicating.
Maybe all the countries should boycott and not participate int he grand final now.
Because of??? Stupid suggestion.
Stupid idea. If Joost break the rules decision is correct
The finals are over! It was a great show.
Nobody wants to boycott.
Remember 1982? "Ein bisschen Frieden"
How times have changed.
Could it have something to do with that the head sponsor of eurovision is Moroccanoil Israëlisch ????
Do you think so? No comment about Israel, or they will come after you.
The punishment yes
yes they are
If someone from the EBU does not want to take a participant seriously and does not understand what the act entails and then makes comments about it and even reports it, then the entire organization of the Eurovision Song Contest is a disaster.
The organization of the EBU are toddlers. PLEASE do something else, no one takes them seriously anymore.
A disaster? Really? I thought 170 million people watched the show? 😂😂😂😂
Thanks guys for keeping us up to date.
@MisterCiccorne
Things happening with Spain and Ireland, as well as France making a statement during rehearsal, this will be an exciting night!
"You're good to go " IT WOULD BE GOOD, IF YOU WENT, Osterdahl.
#justice4joost
It's completely correct in every aspect that this guy is disqualified by the EBU. A brutal attack on any person is not acceptable.
It wasn't "brutal", and it wasnt even physical. Production member shouted some stuff at him, so he shouted back. A wrong thing to do for sure, but disqualification for that?
Just in Dutch news: Joost was filmed by a camera woman after he got of stage in the half finals against the rules and his will. He asked her several times to stop filming which she didn't. Joost made a move towards her camera without touching her. Of that incident has been made a complaint which got him disqualifite. :-S
Verbal threats and violent gestures against an employee is illegal in Sweden.
In Sweden the laws protects the employee.
@@Pippie5555 I bet if it was other way round, the camera man would have been fired.
@@bigbotno1 What do you mean?
Joost smashed her camera.
The way the EBU works is disgusting. Giving a statement and then: nothing. No explaination at all. The Dutch broadcaster openly disagreeing with the EBU says volumes. Normally they will give out a neutral reaction. There's something very wrong going on here.
I think it is nice that they don't start a verbal argument/war. They said this, he said that etc.
The Dutch broadcaster also made a great statement disagreeing.
We have the police report and that is okay - for now.
There are lots of EBU things I don't agree with too. But EBU sets the rules, and if you don't like it, don't sign up.
what ever may have happened. we stand by Joost.he is our dutch winner. he already has been number 1 in the netherlands and belgium. hope we get the oppurtunity to vote tonight. i like Croatia,Lithuania.Latvia,France
Just unbelieveable
Thats so unfair!!! 😔
SHAME YOU EBU
Grand final , Dutch out Ukraine or Israel in or both of them .
Free Joost!
You say that things happened,but you have no clue what happened.
Why not just say what the allegation is, stop the prejudiced half wits assuming the decision was right, wrong or borderline.
Read the police report.
Nice hey , cancel culture
Can you immagine how many of those writing comments here up and down, now playing it offended, have done their best to help it grow wild???? even you yourself for all anyone knows...
@@irondasgr hahaha
Allegedly sexual assault on a female EBU employee
No not true. The allegation was a threat nothing what you say
Millie- Hill That's not true
You are a big liar
He have done nothing
Close your big mouth
YOU WAS NOT THERE !!
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He's been a silly little big mouth small brain bully. Let's face it if you sing about being together and all that lovey stuff why not practice what you preach. Love and peace everyone, now lets get on with having a great night.
First of all he is not a bully. Israel ruined the peace dont you see that?. How blind are you I wonder
Send Klein home. Walk of shame.
The bully os also a violent guy, and people support him after he attacked a swedish girl only because its trendy 🤦
What bully lol? You mean the Israeli journalist?. He did not attack anyone by the way. Get yourself informed.
where does it say he attacked a girl ?
@@-_YouMayFind_- he slap a swedish female photographer
But not surprised that terrorist supporter act like this
The Dutch commentator has also made 2 statements on X, also calling the disqualification disproportional, disgracefull, and stating that the incident that took place is barely worth mentioning, and has nothing to do with Israel.
No but it doesnt mean that the punishment itself has nothing to do with the influence of Israel
@@-_YouMayFind_- That’s a bit far fetched I think. My expectation is that he yelled something unfriendly to an employee in the heat of a moment.
@@-_YouMayFind_-Stop blaming Israel for literally everything omg...
@@samanthasamsimpson7201 Israel stubbed my toe this morning against the coffee table and I demand that they get disqualified too.
@@samanthasamsimpson7201 Israel has long been the main sponsor of the Eurovision through its brands such as Moroccanoil. The Israeli lobby singlehandedly outbeat the entire European lobbies in their fight against the Israeli participation. None of these are rumors but facts. Israel funds the EBU, so they get to DQ the Netherlands, plain and simple. Otherwise, we would have long been shown videos about these nonsense "allegations". I personally hold no grudge against the Israeli entry as it is one of my favorites, but imo Israel should've been the one DQd. War crimes gets a free pass, but a simple charge that won't even hold requires DQ. Pure BS!! #JOOSTICE
Quite a weird story don't you think?
will they refund money that voted for the Netherlands? haha
Yes they will.
stick to the facts... but what are facts... what is so bad that you disqualify someone... I only read that he insulted someone verbally, not physically... don't we all want to know what he said... then we also let our common sense work instead of speculating... this way is not the way... openness is required... if you throw someone out then also explain why and don't keep it so general...
I hope next year the netherlands will send the josti band. That would be fun :D
The Netherlands will be punished for opposing the Almighty Israel. No one should oppose Israel.
Well this is one way for the Netherlands to get some international attention.
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Guilty without trial, the world is going crazy
It;s called cancel culture, where do you live, too many soldiers fight in favour of it until they get a taste of their own medicine. Fun fact: those sad supporters maintain the delusion that they will always be on the side of the canceller, never the canellee'... So much fun.
Pretty curious Joost was disqualified after supporting an uncomfortable question to the israelian contestant by asking "Why not?"
pretty curious Joost was disqualified after he made threats to a staff member
@@donotreply69 Exactly.
I hope the Dutch will withdraw forever from this o so non political shitshow .
12 points to the Netherlands
Shame on you. DER NORDEN ERINNERT SICH. WIR WERDEN NICHTS VERGESSEN.
Tbh he shouldn’t be bullying and intimidating anyone. He did with Ireland contestant (calling her demonic) and now Israel. Leave the politics problems apart, and stop being an a..hole! Ppl need to stop defending bad attitudes just because they like someone. If it was with you or someone you know, you would be probably raging.
Nåväl nästa år kommer ingen ihåg vem som har vunnit i år, men Joost kommer aldrig att glömmas Viva Joost! Joost är redan odödlig
How is calling Bambie demonic bullying? She does have a demonic act, doesn't she? With Pentagons on stage and everything, and even some sort of exorcisme at one point. Nothing wrong with that in my book, but also not with his remark. How else would you describe her act? And with Israel, he was simply calling out that this was a serious journalistic question that deserves an anwer. Nothing wrong with that either.
Not Welkom in Europa, jongen !???????
Hij is gewoon welkom in Europa ;)
Solidarity with Joost from Ireland 🇮🇪 ❤️🇳🇱
We don't know what this "inappropriate behaviour" actually amounts to & since (I think) most western countries follow an innocent until proven guilty principle within their laws, then it would seem that to effectively punish him before he is found guilty is "inappropriate". I can only see disqualification as being the correct course of action if the police have pressed charges or if EBU rules have been breached. However if the latter is the case then the public have the right to know the details of the incident as we are being deprived of an entrant that many wanted to hear & vote for & some paid to see perform.
Are Italy being sanctioned to any degree for releasing their voting stats for the second semi final? It may have been done accidentally (though we cannot be certain without a thorough investigation) but it still potentially has the consequences of building favour for themselves with other countries.
We already know that waging a war against another country is not against EBU principles enough to put a country out of the competition unless your first language is Russian! I was in favour of Russia being banned on principle but if that principle is not being applied evenly to all, then I believe Russia should be permitted back in. Though I would have given some of my votes to Ukraine as I like their song, I will not be doing so now as the EBU have proved by their lack of action in a similar situation this year that they are applying the rules unfairly.
To get back to the subject of the Netherlands, I think a much fairer way of dealing with the situation would be to have allowed them to compete with the understanding that if Joost is found guilty then the consequences would be the future banning of the Netherlands for a period of time & his placement in this final to be wiped from record & given to the next country in order, even if he were to win & ofcourse not to allow Netherlands to host the next competition either.
Disgrace to EBU
This is not good at all, Joost is disqualified and his dream to perform and make his parents proud is gone. I blame the EBU for this disgrace.
He thinks about poor people oh so sad wow just to drain points🤣 use dead parents to get points thank god he was kicked
I hope that the Netherlands will withdraw from the shitshow festival forever
DEFFO and the UK should not be paying money to the EBU as part of the BIG 5.
Hungary did years ago🤗
As a Dutch person this is what I want as well. Because this is just ridiculous. This whole season was ridicous
And yet you care enough to watch and follow the news about this "festival" you seem to hate so much... hmmm
@@bleukreuz you were stalking them how cute