In our rush to get our first episode out this year, we accidentally left out our final answer for the Svengali shot: the shot looks like a double exposure match move! 1) it began by filming a live action plate, pulling back from the actor, with a dark window pan, that’s attached to the camera, and eventually it locks off (similar to the palm beach story end titles), framing the live action acypress and set within a dark black box. The camera continues, pulling back, revealing more and more of the completely blacked out set. 2) a miniature plate is then filmed, with its pullback speed halved, and a dark area in the center of frame, built into the miniature building, allowing the first plate to stay on the film, unobstructed. It’s a pretty incredible shot!   - Sam
@s@salmon5169 they were arguing about the difference between a one-way mirror and a two-way mirror, which sound like distinctly different things, yet they’re the exact same thing with a different name. “Is it a one way mirror or a two way mirror? Wikipedia says a one-way mirror, also known as a two-way mirror…”
@salmon5169A one way mirror gets called a two way mirror also. Those are the mirrors in interrogation rooms. People assume those are two way mirrors and one way mirrors are just regular mirrors but regular mirrors are just called mirrors
Hey! Thanks for the shout out Wren! I wish I could take credit for the “demovision” camera work. Although I did fly the previs concept to the Directors whom were very stoked at the idea. I actual ended up flying most of the heavy lift “Alta X” shots on the show. Blake Sams with lightcraft piloted all the FPV drone shots.
So cool that you're dropping by! One of the things I like about this series is that it shows the human element of all the work that goes into a shot, so many people and jobs you'd never even know existed
@bean-f8l Yeah think he was a LOT more practical in S4, but it made sense in S5 for him to not look the same since you know, he had a bit of a moment end of S4. I liked the "new body rebuilt" look of S5.
@bean-f8l Exactly, and their earlier reaction scene, when they were reacting to the first 5 minutes of season 5, was a flashback to what he would have looked like in the first season. He had two distinct looks: Season 4 (and the flashback) were mostly practical, season 5 was much more digital. (That being said, part of the reason they changed his look was because the costume and makeup was too much of a process, so they could have conceivable use digital for the flashback sequence for the same reason).
@bean-f8l Yes but you still don't have the full picture. He was fully CG from below the head in S4 as well. Watch a VFX Breakdown and study the before and after, they only kept his head.
If you pause the video on 12:57 you notice a square frame around the head, and doll hands. Everything is a miniature except for the head which might be spliced into the film.
yeah and Sam kept so serious when they were loling! like "nope not funny enough" i love how he doesn't fake it! but then when something really makes him laugh... he is dying for it, turning red choking from laughter like a child... it kills me every time!
I never even noticed there was a mirror in the “Girl in the Mirror” scene. Now I understand why I was so bored when I was watching it, I was missing all the “cool shots”
It’s so interesting what they think is uncanny looking, cause I just watched vecna flipping the HumV over and over again and I don’t see it like I do the janky motion of the demigorgan
For practical costumes, you should look at What We Do In The Shadows TV series. They have plenty of great costumes for characters throughout the show, as well as use puppets in later seasons very well. I think the team would have a great time picking through all the things they do on that show. Plus I want to see a deep dive, and there's no one better to do it.
Yes! Someone commented that they should do a What We Do in the Shadows episode on their last video! I was thinking "man, what a great idea!" then too. Oh, I realllly hope they do one!! 🤞🏻
The Svengali shot... *so* good. I had the same thought, about how that shot might have been achieved, just as Wren started to talk about it 😅 Super smart stuff and awesome how the detail of having that faked light from the window, makes _such_ a difference/ is the key to that scene working.
Hey guys! Another awesome video. I have a request for a professional reaction to Chitty Chitty Bang Bang. My mum really wants to see someone breakdown the "Music Box Scene" alongside the entire movie (got a comment in an earlier video mentioning it's reflection work). If there is a way to incorporate it into a video, that would be awesome. There's a lot of two way camera work as well!!
@Marissa_JayI'll be requesting every week. The videos are normally released at 2/3am Sun morning so I've been trying to comment within 2hrs of the video for weeks now. Be sure to comment and request it next week. Hopefully we can get their attention
@perpetuasomnium8173 I'll be requesting every week. The videos are normally released at 2/3am Sun morning so I've been trying to comment within 2hrs of the video for weeks now. Be sure to comment and request it next week. Hopefully we can get their attention
The visuals are so great in that movie, it’s striking and immediately identifiable. Every so often I’ll use the “Where do you come from?” line on my wife or she’ll use it on me.
Same. Though I wish they would have spent a little more time with it. Like the scenes with the doll house and her following the boy, there are more interesting practical effects to be analyzed. One of my favorite movies.
13:54 This imagery was based off artist Damien Hirst's sculptures. He had series of sculptures where he did this to various animals and encased them in formaldehyde.
The camera pull out through the window was also done in the seance scene in Bill and Ted's Bogus Journey. I'd wondered for years how it was done but through watching this show, I had come to the same conclusion you did in this episode for the other clips.
The Cell still stays with me, and I'm sure I've only seen it once when it first came out for rental!! Probably 25 years ago? It's so visually arresting. The cinematography, the special effects, man. I'd argue it still holds up. It's a fascinating movie in the end anyway, and I'd argue one of Vincent Dinofrio's (sp?) best performances.
Da Vinci fist sketched the concept of contact lenses in 1508. The first glass contact lenses were invented in 1887, and the first corrective contact lenses the next year. The first plastic contacts were made in the 1930s. They were all rigid glass or plastic until soft lenses were invented in the 70s. So TECHNICALLY, they COULD have used contacts at 10:00.
Wow, before corridor crew I never knew how to look. Rambo 3 at the end when they drive away in the jeep was on a real bad screen with some interesting cuts, lighting. I can't unsee THAT!!
You guys did such a fantastic job with the editing on this one! Really appreciate when you edit in visual details as you teach. Also the funny edits are always hilarious 😂
That mirror sequence looks like it was planned by Michael Scott. "Zoom out again, new room, zoom out again we're still in the mirror which is a mirror of the first mirror"
I just remembered a movie from the late 90s that I think you guys should take a look at. "What Dreams May Come" with Robin Williams and Cuba Gooding Jr. I remember being wowed by the scenes where he's inside the paintings.
It is really fascinating because it's a puzzle of "how did they do that exactly?" Every complicated, VFX shot back then took a lot of planning and figuring out exactly how to do it. Now you just need green screens and computers for *everything*
12:30 it is like Disney cartoons. They were shot exactly like this., where backgrounds painted on a transparent “glasses”, have multiple layers and camera went through them
In Strangers things final episode, I thought the wormhole.collapsing scene with the upside down being ripped off looked cool. Jordan would really love the sims of the buildings ripping away.
By the way Crew. The bath shot for S5 EP 2 of Stranger Things is actually almost 100% practical. They had a bathtub that was cut in half with glass in the middle of the bathtub. Pretty insane how both actors had to hold their breath for the whole scene.
It's amazing how far special effects have come. I remember watching how they achieved the first person shots of the Deadites in Evil Dead. A bracket to hold the camera as it slid back and forth on a length of 2x4, attached to some wheels, like a Fisher Price rolling pop toy. Now they're using a drone. Crazy
I believe they did a bunch of face replacements, or making characters look younger somehow in ST. I noticed it with Sadie Sinks character Max when she and Holly were in Henrys memories.
I love that they made the demogorgan paler, it looks so much creepier and does interesting things in the lighting. Meanwhile the demogorgan wiping through 50 soldiers with ease really shows how insane one house mom facing it down is.
@anayalator2140 For the 1000th time, people need to pay attention. The demogorgans sent to get the mom and the ones fighting the soilders are two different objectives. The mom one was sent to "TAKE THE GIRL AND BRING HER BACK SAFELY" The soilders: "KILL THEM ALL" You can see the demogorgan confused on what to do given the girl was standing behind the mother and it was sent to get the girl, if it attacks like crazy it could hurt the girl. It only really attacked when hit, it attacked like a instant response...like ugh you hit me, swipe... The piercing attacks vs bullets that are high volicity rules work here, their skin softens and bounces back bullets with little damage but you can stab them with sharp slow moving items. It's silly but alot of series do this. Wonder woman bullets bounce off of but you can stab her.
@nichescenes respectfully everything you just said is bullshit. It's plot armor plain and simple and that goes for Wonder Woman too. She's a demigod who can hurt by conventional weapons when the plot calls for it. Also I'm pretty sure you didn't explain this to anyone for 1000th time. The Demogorgan can kill Barbara or any non essential character with ease, but a mom get in the way? Okayyyyy. Homie, that was just poor writing.
That horse scene is one of my core memories. That imagery I saw as a kid and will forever live with me! As soon as I saw the skin tapestry scene I got flashbacks!
@Marissa_Jay They might have looked at parts of the film at some point, but I don't recall them ever touching on the Ghost of Christmas Past in particular.
16:21 When seeing this I was immediately reminded of Super Mario Bros. 1993 film when they are stuck in the fungi. Wish I could share photos of it in the comments.
Are people stupid? Who watched Stranger Things S5 and thought Vecna, with his constantly moving tendrils, was practical? We must be getting dumber as a species if many people genuinely thought that.
Seriously, there are spots where you can look through him. They must think that since he was mostly practical in season 4 that he must be in this season too, even though he clearly isn't.
Even in S4, Vecna had to be mostly replaced with CG thanks to the moving tendrils and the hand. Granted that design didn't have as many holes as the new one, so it was harder to tell. But these details might not occur to the general public who don't analyze VFX
@mak_attakks And that’ why he feels less scary / real to me in S5… Makes even more sense to me why when seeing how they dialed down the practical effects for Vecna after the effort they made in S4
10:06 There were contact lens back in the 1880s and perhaps earlier...they just sucked. It's true they were super expensive, painful and sucky until the processes to make lightweight plastic contacts but they absolutely existed.
@bbutcI just reminded myself. I actually had heard about descriptions of the first contacts they made from bottoms of test tubes and it stuck because it sounded so horrible I couldn't imagine why anyone would do it.
I love The Cell but not many people have seen it. The costumes and Special Effects are top notch. J-Low plays a psychologist who goes into the mind of a serial killer(Vincent D’Onofrio) to save his last victim.
Watched it in the theatre without slight idea what to expect. The horse scene, first appearance of the killer and some others really shocked me. But I enjoyed it a lot.
Just such a rip off of so much other stuff. Even including getting the costume designer from Dracula to ape her own stuff! Not many young poeople have seen it I guess, or all the things that director steals...
How come no one has mentioned the lack of the bullet impacts on the demigorgon? He tanks all the shots and there is no reaction. I didnt even notice any dust or debris from the impact. Even from the bullets shattering or anything. I could ve wrong and it is just the low quality im watching on my phone, but at least small impact tremors on the skin, etc.
In the Stranger Things Season 5 finale, there is a lot of very jarring green screen, which I find surprising because in the rest of the season and even the show, I very rarely see green-screening artifacts.
Absolutely. A lot of the comping on the other planet looks totally ridiculous. I'm sure they'll cover that next time. I was honestly just confused. Sometimes we got incredible vfx, other times we got 90s style green screen work. The whole season was a real mish mash.
@booniversegaming That's true. I'm a Dr Who fan so that kinda jarring effects don't bother me as much lol. Plus ST S1 had issues like that. Genuinely think it's just time.
ngl watching wicked 2 i could only think about the "how do you think they did this" during that whole mirrors singing scene. So glad this got looked at
I love how easy it is for you guys to just talk about this like its easy to do but yet explain it in a way like i feel like I can do this all tomorrow lol
I need them to react to more of Wicked For Good. I want them to see scary deaged Jeff Goldblum. He was so creepy looking and fake looking for a film that otherwise is so polished
I would love for you guys to check out more in that vecna scene where the demogorgons and frozen and eventually snap to will but also look at later on when Jonathan and Nancy are in the melting room and how they did that
17:45 Honestly rather than "Rebuild" these in CG, since the lights are needing specific control in the first place for the flickering it would seem far easier to (during setup) simply positionally track EACH of the lights you are controlling and then activate them through software. By doing this you would essentially ALREADY have exact lighting position, timing and even things like tone and brightness from EVERY sensor that would then perfectly match between your CG and real shots.
This can easily happen if you bring the vfx supes on early and don't just throw a lot of unplanned crap at them later one (see: Avengers, Marvel movies) that makes their work look worse than it needed to. The vfx peeps always get the blame from the unwashed masses though...
the way that demogorgon opens the portal in stranger things cracks me up, seems super convenient that it decided to climb through the ceiling both ways instead of the floor.
I was just watching Angels & Demons from 2009, and there is a scene toward the end of the movie where the anti-matter explodes up in the air and the water in some fountains goes shooting up. There are people all over the place and I would have to imagine if there was that much force it would have killed them all. Not sure what kind of video this fits in for you, but thought it worth mentioning. Love the content, keep it up.
In the past due to its fairly severe limitations, CGI also involved a lot of creativity - in the character rigging, the way virtual lighting had to be bodged together, developing surface texture maps, etc etc. As a mature tech these days I guess it's now a more effective tool for bringing the director's vision to the screen, but I suspect the same level of innovative thinking is possibly no longer required...? Would be intrigued to hear an in-industry perspective on this though, as creatives do generally seem to find ways to push the envelope in new directions, regardless of where the tech is currently at. My favourite is generally the combo of the practical (miniatures/bigatures/FX/makeup/stunts) and the CGI, as that combo often seems to hit the sweet spot of being able to look awesome without losing the realworld physics I find necessary to immersion.
I believe the comments were referring to Vecna in the opening scene of the series, which is a different look that they used, same as in season 4. That suit was practical, with CGI additions. This look of Vecna in this scene in episode 4 of season 5 is a new, less human looking Vecna. Clearly that one is mostly CGI.
I am not sure what you mean by "stage right and left." It's a reflection, so it's always going to be the inverse of the real thing. My left would be my mirror reflection's right. Unless you are talking about the initial head position. But she moves hear head to the other side as it zooms out and blurs.
The really sad thing about stranger things 5 was that all I could think about was how much better the first season was, when they didn’t constantly show the monsters. Horror is so much more effective when you don’t explicitly get to see everything. They spent astounding amounts of money, only to end up with a much worse outcome.
I agree, but keep in mind, ST is not a horror and never was meant to be. And honestly. It portrays a TTRPG campaign really way this way - from not knowing what to do to rising in power and fighting off strong monsters.
Season one have better cgi for monsters 😂 It's the only good season and should be the last one, just like they planned at beginning, before sniffing way too much money for this crap.
also not a native speaker but i just assumed you can use flip and flop interchangeably but people usually using flip while flop is being used as a "flip back"
In our rush to get our first episode out this year, we accidentally left out our final answer for the Svengali shot: the shot looks like a double exposure match move!
1) it began by filming a live action plate, pulling back from the actor, with a dark window pan, that’s attached to the camera, and eventually it locks off (similar to the palm beach story end titles), framing the live action acypress and set within a dark black box. The camera continues, pulling back, revealing more and more of the completely blacked out set.
2) a miniature plate is then filmed, with its pullback speed halved, and a dark area in the center of frame, built into the miniature building, allowing the first plate to stay on the film, unobstructed.
It’s a pretty incredible shot! 

- Sam
That’s what I would of done 🤯🤯🤯🤯
I mean you talked about vecna but not his crunchy crunch finishing move
There is a similar shot to the dissected horse in the Hannibal tv show, season 2 episode 5

16:21 Check out Super Mario Bros. 1993 film with the fungi
One way mirror also known as a two way mirror is one of the best moments on this channel
I don't get it
@salmon5169exactly
@s@salmon5169 they were arguing about the difference between a one-way mirror and a two-way mirror, which sound like distinctly different things, yet they’re the exact same thing with a different name. “Is it a one way mirror or a two way mirror? Wikipedia says a one-way mirror, also known as a two-way mirror…”
I loved how it was the same three in the same spots.
@salmon5169A one way mirror gets called a two way mirror also. Those are the mirrors in interrogation rooms. People assume those are two way mirrors and one way mirrors are just regular mirrors but regular mirrors are just called mirrors
Hey! Thanks for the shout out Wren! I wish I could take credit for the “demovision” camera work. Although I did fly the previs concept to the Directors whom were very stoked at the idea. I actual ended up flying most of the heavy lift “Alta X” shots on the show. Blake Sams with lightcraft piloted all the FPV drone shots.
So cool that you're dropping by! One of the things I like about this series is that it shows the human element of all the work that goes into a shot, so many people and jobs you'd never even know existed
Believe me... thinking Vecna is fully practical is far from the most absurd thing the Stranger Things fandom is convinced of right now
i think the misconception stems from season 4, where (unless im wrong) vecna is *mostly* practical with some cg elements added on
@bean-f8l Yeah think he was a LOT more practical in S4, but it made sense in S5 for him to not look the same since you know, he had a bit of a moment end of S4. I liked the "new body rebuilt" look of S5.
@bean-f8l Exactly, and their earlier reaction scene, when they were reacting to the first 5 minutes of season 5, was a flashback to what he would have looked like in the first season. He had two distinct looks: Season 4 (and the flashback) were mostly practical, season 5 was much more digital. (That being said, part of the reason they changed his look was because the costume and makeup was too much of a process, so they could have conceivable use digital for the flashback sequence for the same reason).
@bean-f8l Yes but you still don't have the full picture. He was fully CG from below the head in S4 as well. Watch a VFX Breakdown and study the before and after, they only kept his head.
the sheer amount of copium in the ST fanbase created a worldwide copium shortage
The "in the chair" shots for the Vecna makeup crack me up. Vecna, sitting there legs crossed with slippers on.
Makes it even funnier if you know what a total sweetheart JCB is.
I want a state farm ad with vecna, sitting like that ,talking to jake (the original one)
Giving Deadpool vibes somehow
Putting that egg stuff on your eyes must have hurt so bad
I'm not joking, with the Wicked mirror stuff, I was in the theater thinking "omg I hope corridor crew explains this" I'm so happy rn
Same
I was assured that no computers were ever used on Stranger Things!
Yup! They actually only used technology that was available in the time period that the show was set!
@philiprdenhollander Everything in this scene, including the cars and buildings, where actually marionettes.
@philiprdenhollander All supplied by Radio Shack!
@philiprdenhollanderwow really?
The oft forgotten third Duffer brother told me they actually invented time travel in order to go back to the 80s to make this show
If you pause the video on 12:57 you notice a square frame around the head, and doll hands. Everything is a miniature except for the head which might be spliced into the film.
The timing of all the jokes on this episode was too funny😂😂
So crispy
yeah and Sam kept so serious when they were loling! like "nope not funny enough" i love how he doesn't fake it! but then when something really makes him laugh... he is dying for it, turning red choking from laughter like a child... it kills me every time!
@liffamanliterallyyy your not wrong🤣🤣🤣
Script.
@liffamanScript. So it's eh
Omg, I cut an apple in rings for my kids today and thought about The Cell scene 😂
At some point people were saying mirror so often, it just turned into MIRR MIRRRR
AS a British person watching this I was screaming mir roar mir roar at the screen.
That reminded me of Jamie Dornan and his mirror story
Murmur?
@Robwakefieldcreativecame to say this 😂 (I still commented bc I hadn’t seen these comments).
"meer"
Sam's comment about the bath with children was hilarious!
A little bit of Me Time is super important, not even monsters are worth giving it up.
10:42 "that's illegal!"
Lol I didn't expect that
Hilarious xD
Yea haha the visceral and disgusted reaction really sold it hahaha
Eggs on your eyes? Straight to jail
@AncalagonTheBlackMetalHead mhhhm yummy, salmonella in your eyes cuz you put old, warm and unpreserved egg skin on them😋😩
I lold
I never even noticed there was a mirror in the “Girl in the Mirror” scene. Now I understand why I was so bored when I was watching it, I was missing all the “cool shots”
Jordan shhhing shows how much he was into the scene lol
It’s so interesting what they think is uncanny looking, cause I just watched vecna flipping the HumV over and over again and I don’t see it like I do the janky motion of the demigorgan
For practical costumes, you should look at What We Do In The Shadows TV series. They have plenty of great costumes for characters throughout the show, as well as use puppets in later seasons very well. I think the team would have a great time picking through all the things they do on that show.
Plus I want to see a deep dive, and there's no one better to do it.
Primarily "The Sire", "The Barron", and Nadjia's Doll
@MrMatthewStonewerewolf
Absolutely underrated show. The cinematography and visuals were insanely good for a "silly comedy".
Please do this! What we do in the shadows has so many flawless as well as so obviously campy effects
Yes! Someone commented that they should do a What We Do in the Shadows episode on their last video! I was thinking "man, what a great idea!" then too. Oh, I realllly hope they do one!! 🤞🏻
The Svengali shot... *so* good. I had the same thought, about how that shot might have been achieved, just as Wren started to talk about it 😅
Super smart stuff and awesome how the detail of having that faked light from the window, makes _such_ a difference/ is the key to that scene working.
I love the BTS "Temu" Vecna in the printed onesie!
I want this Vecna bodysuit with the blue dots for my Halloween costume so I can go as "on-set Vecna".
"Screen used"
Lol i was thinking it looked like the skeleton sweater they ordered for Wren, and then they just showed it to compare it 😂
The Cell is chock full of beautiful shots. One of the most beautiful films I've ever seen.
Hey guys! Another awesome video.
I have a request for a professional reaction to Chitty Chitty Bang Bang. My mum really wants to see someone breakdown the "Music Box Scene" alongside the entire movie (got a comment in an earlier video mentioning it's reflection work).
If there is a way to incorporate it into a video, that would be awesome.
There's a lot of two way camera work as well!!
Yessss I’d love to see them react to that!
I just want them to do it cause I love that movie, lol
@Marissa_JayI'll be requesting every week. The videos are normally released at 2/3am Sun morning so I've been trying to comment within 2hrs of the video for weeks now. Be sure to comment and request it next week. Hopefully we can get their attention
@perpetuasomnium8173 I'll be requesting every week. The videos are normally released at 2/3am Sun morning so I've been trying to comment within 2hrs of the video for weeks now. Be sure to comment and request it next week. Hopefully we can get their attention
Yes!!!
Demigorgon jumping around reminded me of the animation of the demons in The Gate
13:24 The Cell!!! So glad you guys covered this film finally!!!
The cell is a god film. Bisected horse may have been inspired by this artwork: Mother and Child (Divided), 1993. Damien Hirst.
This is when I came to the comments. I love that movie.
The visuals are so great in that movie, it’s striking and immediately identifiable. Every so often I’ll use the “Where do you come from?” line on my wife or she’ll use it on me.
I saw that film. I wished I hadn’t. 🤢
Same. Though I wish they would have spent a little more time with it. Like the scenes with the doll house and her following the boy, there are more interesting practical effects to be analyzed. One of my favorite movies.
have you looked at that scene in Catch-22 when the plane chops the guy in half, crazy!
I like the jazz cut for Wicked For Good way better 😂😂😂😂
bro ariana grande is NOT looking well in this and the previous movie AT ALL
@carstonscott5070: LOL! True!
@strangelpeaceful: You mean like too skeletal, or...?
That exact scene from The Cell also scarred me as a kid! Similar to the Resident Evil laser hallway one
13:54 This imagery was based off artist Damien Hirst's sculptures. He had series of sculptures where he did this to various animals and encased them in formaldehyde.
The camera pull out through the window was also done in the seance scene in Bill and Ted's Bogus Journey. I'd wondered for years how it was done but through watching this show, I had come to the same conclusion you did in this episode for the other clips.
You guys should check out the "Take On Me" music video by A-ha; it's very interesting and was one of the most expensive music videos at the time.
I agree
The vfx of the upside down being "nuked" in the last episode looks amazing
The Cell? Hell yes, y'all should do a special episode on it
The Cell still stays with me, and I'm sure I've only seen it once when it first came out for rental!! Probably 25 years ago? It's so visually arresting. The cinematography, the special effects, man. I'd argue it still holds up. It's a fascinating movie in the end anyway, and I'd argue one of Vincent Dinofrio's (sp?) best performances.
@Marissa_Jay Definitely. I saw it a few times, and definitely way too young to do so 😅The Fall is a great follow-up visually
@Marissa_Jay It's a great movie for sure
came here to say this. visually stunning all the way thru and perfectly nightmarish
Da Vinci fist sketched the concept of contact lenses in 1508. The first glass contact lenses were invented in 1887, and the first corrective contact lenses the next year. The first plastic contacts were made in the 1930s. They were all rigid glass or plastic until soft lenses were invented in the 70s. So TECHNICALLY, they COULD have used contacts at 10:00.
The choice to play upbeat jazz over Glinda’s girl in a bubble sequence had me cracking up! 😆
Is the character called GLINDA? 😂
@ChristofferLund ....It's the Wizard of Oz....Glinda the Good Witch is, like, one of the most iconic pop culture characters???
@spiderbug7615 Never seen any of it (except from the vfx breakdowns here). Don’t think wizard of oz was any big here in Norway
There is a film from a while back called The Triangle with a really cool breakdown for and into a mirror scene, that they had a fancy rig for too.
11:40 Love these visual demonstrations
About Buf Company, they also did the 3D sequences in Fight Club with the same principle of texturing (see the intro with the van in the parking)
The comparison between season 5 of stranger things and In the end is incredible
Wow, before corridor crew I never knew how to look. Rambo 3 at the end when they drive away in the jeep was on a real bad screen with some interesting cuts, lighting. I can't unsee THAT!!
You guys did such a fantastic job with the editing on this one! Really appreciate when you edit in visual details as you teach. Also the funny edits are always hilarious 😂
That mirror sequence looks like it was planned by Michael Scott.
"Zoom out again, new room, zoom out again we're still in the mirror which is a mirror of the first mirror"
They actually did the bath scene for real
I imagine it's simply a glass plane in front of a sliced open bathtub
*Shhhhhh...*
@derAtze yup
I just remembered a movie from the late 90s that I think you guys should take a look at. "What Dreams May Come" with Robin Williams and Cuba Gooding Jr. I remember being wowed by the scenes where he's inside the paintings.
I love it when you guys look at really old movies like the Svengali one from the 30s. You should do more of those.
It is really fascinating because it's a puzzle of "how did they do that exactly?" Every complicated, VFX shot back then took a lot of planning and figuring out exactly how to do it. Now you just need green screens and computers for *everything*
12:30 it is like Disney cartoons. They were shot exactly like this., where backgrounds painted on a transparent “glasses”, have multiple layers and camera went through them
In Strangers things final episode, I thought the wormhole.collapsing scene with the upside down being ripped off looked cool. Jordan would really love the sims of the buildings ripping away.
That was some of the most satisfying destruction physics I've seen in a while. I questioned whether it was actually a miniature.
Agreed, the destruction was very well executed
I personally love it when the crew recreates the shots themselves in very easy and simple ro understand way 😂
2:32 you said mirrors too often and now I can’t hear it correctly anymore
Fun fact: that's called semantic satiation and it's when the language part of your brain stops processing so you hear it as sound only
MEEEERS 😭
That horse slicer is a super cool effect. I read something like that happening in a book I read as a form of torture
By the way Crew. The bath shot for S5 EP 2 of Stranger Things is actually almost 100% practical. They had a bathtub that was cut in half with glass in the middle of the bathtub. Pretty insane how both actors had to hold their breath for the whole scene.
It's amazing how far special effects have come. I remember watching how they achieved the first person shots of the Deadites in Evil Dead. A bracket to hold the camera as it slid back and forth on a length of 2x4, attached to some wheels, like a Fisher Price rolling pop toy. Now they're using a drone. Crazy
I believe they did a bunch of face replacements, or making characters look younger somehow in ST. I noticed it with Sadie Sinks character Max when she and Holly were in Henrys memories.
That cave scene in the final episode with the suitcase
I love that they made the demogorgan paler, it looks so much creepier and does interesting things in the lighting. Meanwhile the demogorgan wiping through 50 soldiers with ease really shows how insane one house mom facing it down is.
Plot armor is a hell of a thing.
It was also silly. They can pick up a soldier and throw it a significant distance but can't pull a little girl from her grip on a bed?
@anayalator2140 For the 1000th time, people need to pay attention. The demogorgans sent to get the mom and the ones fighting the soilders are two different objectives. The mom one was sent to "TAKE THE GIRL AND BRING HER BACK SAFELY" The soilders: "KILL THEM ALL" You can see the demogorgan confused on what to do given the girl was standing behind the mother and it was sent to get the girl, if it attacks like crazy it could hurt the girl. It only really attacked when hit, it attacked like a instant response...like ugh you hit me, swipe... The piercing attacks vs bullets that are high volicity rules work here, their skin softens and bounces back bullets with little damage but you can stab them with sharp slow moving items. It's silly but alot of series do this. Wonder woman bullets bounce off of but you can stab her.
@nichescenes respectfully everything you just said is bullshit. It's plot armor plain and simple and that goes for Wonder Woman too. She's a demigod who can hurt by conventional weapons when the plot calls for it. Also I'm pretty sure you didn't explain this to anyone for 1000th time. The Demogorgan can kill Barbara or any non essential character with ease, but a mom get in the way? Okayyyyy. Homie, that was just poor writing.
@nichescenessuch cope
That horse scene is one of my core memories. That imagery I saw as a kid and will forever live with me! As soon as I saw the skin tapestry scene I got flashbacks!
I think you should take a look at The Muppet Christmas Carol, particularly the Ghost of Christmas Past.
Haven't they done that already? I might be confusing it with the Indiana Jones episode 🤔
@Marissa_Jay They might have looked at parts of the film at some point, but I don't recall them ever touching on the Ghost of Christmas Past in particular.
15:44 while watching I literally thought the abyss looked like the in the end music video
16:21 When seeing this I was immediately reminded of Super Mario Bros. 1993 film when they are stuck in the fungi. Wish I could share photos of it in the comments.
16:20 oh my god that shot is BEAUTIFUL with the dutch tilt
I'd like to see you look at all the Mirror scenes in Last Night in Soho
The sliced horse scene reminds me of a Damian Hirst art sculpture
1:15 love royalty free jazz
I laughed too long when it started, so unexpected
Opening shot of Contact is pretty good mirror shot.
Are people stupid? Who watched Stranger Things S5 and thought Vecna, with his constantly moving tendrils, was practical? We must be getting dumber as a species if many people genuinely thought that.
Probably the same people who waited for the ninth episode to drop.
Seriously, there are spots where you can look through him. They must think that since he was mostly practical in season 4 that he must be in this season too, even though he clearly isn't.
The same people that think that "Fury Road" is all practical.
Even in S4, Vecna had to be mostly replaced with CG thanks to the moving tendrils and the hand. Granted that design didn't have as many holes as the new one, so it was harder to tell. But these details might not occur to the general public who don't analyze VFX
@mak_attakks And that’ why he feels less scary / real to me in S5… Makes even more sense to me why when seeing how they dialed down the practical effects for Vecna after the effort they made in S4
YES! The wicked 2 mirror scene!
Down The VFX Rabbit-hole covered the Vegna thing, pretty extensively too. Surprised there are still so many comments regarding this...
Definitely the tower scene in the upside down
10:06 There were contact lens back in the 1880s and perhaps earlier...they just sucked. It's true they were super expensive, painful and sucky until the processes to make lightweight plastic contacts but they absolutely existed.
lol. I just goggled that too.
@bbutc Not goggles, contacts
@SpaceRaI meant Googled.
Yeah they were just impractical and rarely used.
@bbutcI just reminded myself. I actually had heard about descriptions of the first contacts they made from bottoms of test tubes and it stuck because it sounded so horrible I couldn't imagine why anyone would do it.
I've been watching this for 2 years and the first minute of this both brought a smile to my face and had me genuinely realize I love these dudes!
I love The Cell but not many people have seen it. The costumes and Special Effects are top notch. J-Low plays a psychologist who goes into the mind of a serial killer(Vincent D’Onofrio) to save his last victim.
Watched it in the theatre without slight idea what to expect. The horse scene, first appearance of the killer and some others really shocked me. But I enjoyed it a lot.
Just such a rip off of so much other stuff. Even including getting the costume designer from Dracula to ape her own stuff! Not many young poeople have seen it I guess, or all the things that director steals...
You should look at when the giant spider kaiju unfolds at the end of the Finale. It was pretty cool!
How come no one has mentioned the lack of the bullet impacts on the demigorgon?
He tanks all the shots and there is no reaction. I didnt even notice any dust or debris from the impact.
Even from the bullets shattering or anything.
I could ve wrong and it is just the low quality im watching on my phone, but at least small impact tremors on the skin, etc.
Love it when they get all silly and giggly.
In the Stranger Things Season 5 finale, there is a lot of very jarring green screen, which I find surprising because in the rest of the season and even the show, I very rarely see green-screening artifacts.
Probably due to lack of time. When vfx artists have all the time they need, that gives vfx so good that usually ppl think there is no vfx at all.
Absolutely. A lot of the comping on the other planet looks totally ridiculous. I'm sure they'll cover that next time.
I was honestly just confused. Sometimes we got incredible vfx, other times we got 90s style green screen work. The whole season was a real mish mash.
I love the series, but whenever they're in that red dimension, it looks really fake.
creatives not gonna spend alot of time polishing shit
@booniversegaming That's true. I'm a Dr Who fan so that kinda jarring effects don't bother me as much lol. Plus ST S1 had issues like that. Genuinely think it's just time.
ngl watching wicked 2 i could only think about the "how do you think they did this" during that whole mirrors singing scene. So glad this got looked at
15:41 In the End came out in 2001, not 2009. (yes, I'm old)
2009 is justthe date of the upload of the video to youtube.
You know what you’re right, I based the credit off the RUclips upload instead of the actual music video’s release date. Good catch.
or it's a typo of 2000 since the song came out in 2000 and 0 is right next to 9
@ghosface353 Like nearly every music video created before 2009 :D
@trailersic You might be correct with the typo, but the video did come out in 2001.
I love how easy it is for you guys to just talk about this like its easy to do but yet explain it in a way like i feel like I can do this all tomorrow lol
I need them to react to more of Wicked For Good. I want them to see scary deaged Jeff Goldblum. He was so creepy looking and fake looking for a film that otherwise is so polished
I would love for you guys to check out more in that vecna scene where the demogorgons and frozen and eventually snap to will but also look at later on when Jonathan and Nancy are in the melting room and how they did that
17:45 Honestly rather than "Rebuild" these in CG, since the lights are needing specific control in the first place for the flickering it would seem far easier to (during setup) simply positionally track EACH of the lights you are controlling and then activate them through software.
By doing this you would essentially ALREADY have exact lighting position, timing and even things like tone and brightness from EVERY sensor that would then perfectly match between your CG and real shots.
This can easily happen if you bring the vfx supes on early and don't just throw a lot of unplanned crap at them later one (see: Avengers, Marvel movies) that makes their work look worse than it needed to. The vfx peeps always get the blame from the unwashed masses though...
the horse scene from The Cell lives in my head rent free
21:27 head and shoulders ? But he doesn't even have hairs...
I used to love the Cell, kinda want to watch it again now
You should look at the laser hallway scene from the first Resident Evil movie
Pretty sure they already did.
@this_blyWhich video? I've look to see if they have but I can't find it
I saw Wicked 2 in theaters and since I left the movie I have been waiting for you to react to the mirror shot
the way that demogorgon opens the portal in stranger things cracks me up, seems super convenient that it decided to climb through the ceiling both ways instead of the floor.
What's a three way mirror? It almost sounds like my new kink.
I was just watching Angels & Demons from 2009, and there is a scene toward the end of the movie where the anti-matter explodes up in the air and the water in some fountains goes shooting up. There are people all over the place and I would have to imagine if there was that much force it would have killed them all. Not sure what kind of video this fits in for you, but thought it worth mentioning. Love the content, keep it up.
Old movies, inventive solutions. New movies, just CGI
In the past due to its fairly severe limitations, CGI also involved a lot of creativity - in the character rigging, the way virtual lighting had to be bodged together, developing surface texture maps, etc etc.
As a mature tech these days I guess it's now a more effective tool for bringing the director's vision to the screen, but I suspect the same level of innovative thinking is possibly no longer required...?
Would be intrigued to hear an in-industry perspective on this though, as creatives do generally seem to find ways to push the envelope in new directions, regardless of where the tech is currently at.
My favourite is generally the combo of the practical (miniatures/bigatures/FX/makeup/stunts) and the CGI, as that combo often seems to hit the sweet spot of being able to look awesome without losing the realworld physics I find necessary to immersion.
@anna_in_aotearoa3166Hollywood is dead. Blockbusters don't bring money anymore. And story are so lame.
I'm so glad you guys did that wicked mirror scene. I watched the movie with my wife and all I could think was VFX Artists React lol
I believe the comments were referring to Vecna in the opening scene of the series, which is a different look that they used, same as in season 4. That suit was practical, with CGI additions. This look of Vecna in this scene in episode 4 of season 5 is a new, less human looking Vecna. Clearly that one is mostly CGI.
I absolutely love the dad energy in this video
The best cgi is the scene where the guy flips the gun and it floats for 50 years before he finally catches it.
That was on last weeks ep
@eyemsam89It's been one week, and that gun is still floating in midair.
that's from the beginning of 2001 a space odyssey. they trained a real monkey
when you guys do a simplified recreation of the shot to help explain, it makes so much more sense to me! I wouldnt be able to follow along with them!
At 5:56 when they zoom out, it looks like she is looking the wrong way. The reflection is looking stage right but she is looking stage left.
Maybe they flipped instead of flopped.
I am not sure what you mean by "stage right and left."
It's a reflection, so it's always going to be the inverse of the real thing. My left would be my mirror reflection's right.
Unless you are talking about the initial head position. But she moves hear head to the other side as it zooms out and blurs.
The deathclaws from the latest episode of Fallout S2 were really cool and would be fun to see in VfxAR
The really sad thing about stranger things 5 was that all I could think about was how much better the first season was, when they didn’t constantly show the monsters. Horror is so much more effective when you don’t explicitly get to see everything. They spent astounding amounts of money, only to end up with a much worse outcome.
I agree, but keep in mind, ST is not a horror and never was meant to be. And honestly. It portrays a TTRPG campaign really way this way - from not knowing what to do to rising in power and fighting off strong monsters.
Season one have better cgi for monsters 😂 It's the only good season and should be the last one, just like they planned at beginning, before sniffing way too much money for this crap.
One of the dumbest comments ever written
@cenciende9401You must be dumb, or lying yourself if you don't see it.
CONGRATS ON 7 MIL SUBS damn ! so nice
5:19 English isn't my first language, but isn't the word flip? Flipped? They flipped it? Flop is a failure, no? Or a belly flop?
You are correct, however I feel they are doing this purposely, perhaps because of an inside joke
also not a native speaker but i just assumed you can use flip and flop interchangeably but people usually using flip while flop is being used as a "flip back"
Flipping and flopping can be used interchangeably during casual conversation, usually in pairs: they flipped it one way, then flopped it back
Did anyone notice the funkiness of the timer of the squarespace ad?