It didn't just feel like work, It WAS work. Had the same shitty experience on the Test server as well. So inconvenient. They couldn't just give us max levelled characters or the ability to just buy gear for free or something so we could test it out. There's so many broken combos that is obviously not going to be balanced or fun to play against but they are going through with it anyway. I don't need to light a fire in my house to know its going to burn up in flames.
So true. My suggestion is to limit multiclass to ONLY one other class at a time, and remove some of the time-gating behind it. Won’t solve all the busted combos but its a start
@Sparkykawa what's pushing folks away is the entire game is the test server. You fall in love with a class and want to main it then it gets nerfed into the ground
honestly as much as I hate the multiclassing and think its an awful idea... this was super cool with the ignited arming sword crystal ball and survival bow. Problem is all the unlimited cringe broken combos that come with it, like this is fun.. mild and cool especially with the lizard skin. Reminds me of like an old school snes RPG character or something. But unfortunately with it comes, hide ambush windlass 1 taps :s
Yeah. I want to play neat stuff, not blatantly overpowered stuff that kills all counterplay. I felt like the arming orb combo was busted and only really was using half its potential. There will be a lot of insane stuff
i absolutely love the idea of multiclassing. the only issues i see are that its time gated, regardless if they lower the level requirements, you still have to level the other characters you want to learn from, and that some perks on other classes need to have their numbers lowered. individual class uniqueness and identity needs to be benefited here more so than ever. If a ranger is max level their perks and skills should be of the highest caliber, while any class learning from their ranger thats only lvl 30(aka minimum mastery lvl). multi class system needs to be reworked into a tree system. every class has a tree for themselves as well as other trees/branches to learn from other classes. fighter has the option to stay a true fighter, or pick up dagger mastery if he likes daggers from rogue tree, or rapier mastery from bard tree. as for level requirements and leveling, they need to make it where if you get a character to level 30, it stays til the end of time til you delete it. wipe happens? the new level 1 is 30 (or 15 if they really want us to struggle) for those characters. any "new" character (class that has never been played before on same account) will start at 1, and maybe have new characters of the same class as the lvl 30 start at 15? idk i feel like the current and concurrent player base ^wouldnt^ want to WORK so hard into something only for it to wipe. its waaaaay different than tarkov. any new player or new character is gonna need time to learn the game so i get that part. I just dont think a rogue main, trying to create different type of rogues for different styles would be interested in starting at lvl 1 struggling to get perks and skills. Like imagine being lvl 270 rogue, you finalised a build/set of skills and perks, u want to try something different, but dont want to lose the build. so you make a new rogue only to have to level it up from lvl 1 again. nah they gotta do something
No idea why they made us level on TEST server. Literally we are there to test the game not test levelling or anything of that nature. Gotta think through that a bit better if Ironmace want something tested.
Really I think multiclassing should be super minimal. Like picking maybe 1 or two perks from other classes and nothing else. No skills. And even then there should be some things that cannot be learned by other classes. Weapon mastery, although it's cool to use longsword on other classes, should only be for fighter, as it's supposed to be unique to fighter.
By the time i downloaded the game again after a 6 month break the servers were already nostly empty, then it took me another day to level up and get the skills i needed and i only had 1 pvp encounter. I also think they should group ppl with multiclassing in normals so the timmes will have a normal time, seems like im going to suffer soon XD
Also, I heard that cutthroat doesn't work on ranged weapons, but it does work on the hand crossbow, so idk , but if it does work that can be a huge problem for those hybrid caster builds.
Gladly they’re upping the xp gains and giving us levels retroactively. My big problem rn is that questing on multiple characters is such an annoying grind…
@@rubsome getting a character up to level 35 doesn't that long tbh, but for people like him its better to play wow or something where you can buy a character boost.
Im torn. I want people to have fun but this is going to be so unhealthy for the game when it hits live servers. I'm worried that it'll drive a huge portion of playerbase away...
@Sparkykawa they are both strong spells but are super slow do lots of low damage tick damage. Having magic power/true magic damage and wizards knowledge would make it really strong
It didn't just feel like work, It WAS work. Had the same shitty experience on the Test server as well. So inconvenient. They couldn't just give us max levelled characters or the ability to just buy gear for free or something so we could test it out. There's so many broken combos that is obviously not going to be balanced or fun to play against but they are going through with it anyway. I don't need to light a fire in my house to know its going to burn up in flames.
So true. My suggestion is to limit multiclass to ONLY one other class at a time, and remove some of the time-gating behind it. Won’t solve all the busted combos but its a start
@Sparkykawa what's pushing folks away is the entire game is the test server. You fall in love with a class and want to main it then it gets nerfed into the ground
@@findrest3073fact.... see cleric
@@findrest3073 bards getting nerfed for the 41st patch in a row (fighter, barb, and warlock untouched)
The fighter wizard multiclass is the coolest thing I've seen so far.
Hope you'll get that fire burning Sparkyy. Maybe take some rest for now.
honestly as much as I hate the multiclassing and think its an awful idea... this was super cool with the ignited arming sword crystal ball and survival bow. Problem is all the unlimited cringe broken combos that come with it, like this is fun.. mild and cool especially with the lizard skin. Reminds me of like an old school snes RPG character or something. But unfortunately with it comes, hide ambush windlass 1 taps :s
Yeah. I want to play neat stuff, not blatantly overpowered stuff that kills all counterplay. I felt like the arming orb combo was busted and only really was using half its potential. There will be a lot of insane stuff
2:20 man this bug has existed all the way back in the playtest
I like Gishes too, very much, like to play 'em in D&D and similar ttrpgs.
Rapier + Orb might be fun too! I was thinking that Ambush + Ignite build might be really good if it procs off every invis (shadow runner used to)
Im so happy to see someone else doing the fighter mage combo this is exactly what i want to do
DUDE SAME.
I’m really excited for this to come out, barbarian with shield mastery and longsword is gonna hot different
Got flamesword on my lock today, pure insanity with on hit dmg
i absolutely love the idea of multiclassing. the only issues i see are that its time gated, regardless if they lower the level requirements, you still have to level the other characters you want to learn from, and that some perks on other classes need to have their numbers lowered.
individual class uniqueness and identity needs to be benefited here more so than ever. If a ranger is max level their perks and skills should be of the highest caliber, while any class learning from their ranger thats only lvl 30(aka minimum mastery lvl).
multi class system needs to be reworked into a tree system. every class has a tree for themselves as well as other trees/branches to learn from other classes.
fighter has the option to stay a true fighter, or pick up dagger mastery if he likes daggers from rogue tree, or rapier mastery from bard tree.
as for level requirements and leveling, they need to make it where if you get a character to level 30, it stays til the end of time til you delete it. wipe happens? the new level 1 is 30 (or 15 if they really want us to struggle) for those characters. any "new" character (class that has never been played before on same account) will start at 1, and maybe have new characters of the same class as the lvl 30 start at 15? idk i feel like the current and concurrent player base ^wouldnt^ want to WORK so hard into something only for it to wipe. its waaaaay different than tarkov. any new player or new character is gonna need time to learn the game so i get that part. I just dont think a rogue main, trying to create different type of rogues for different styles would be interested in starting at lvl 1 struggling to get perks and skills. Like imagine being lvl 270 rogue, you finalised a build/set of skills and perks, u want to try something different, but dont want to lose the build. so you make a new rogue only to have to level it up from lvl 1 again. nah they gotta do something
Yeah the grind is gonna be super rough on live servers, at least the level experience required reduction should help a bit.
Y'all ready for the barb with demon form with plus 10 all. 130 base hp oh and might as well take second wind too. This will be in normals too 😂
The pvp you did get with spell-sword looked sick. I hope it felt as cool as it looked!
Yeah, I loved igniting my weapon. Once multiclass hits live I'll build some kits around it if I can get lucky and get the spells I want
No idea why they made us level on TEST server. Literally we are there to test the game not test levelling or anything of that nature. Gotta think through that a bit better if Ironmace want something tested.
I hate multiclass, Im going to ragequit when a barb uses sprint at me...
Sprint is 16% movespeed, rage is 12% movespeed. Its only a 4% difference, rage gives stats too.
@@SparkykawaNothing can stop me from using both 👿
lol what’s worse is rogue with felling axe, reckless attack, and hide/ambush
@@Sparkykawa Yeah and also removes half of your armor lmao
Really I think multiclassing should be super minimal. Like picking maybe 1 or two perks from other classes and nothing else. No skills. And even then there should be some things that cannot be learned by other classes. Weapon mastery, although it's cool to use longsword on other classes, should only be for fighter, as it's supposed to be unique to fighter.
By the time i downloaded the game again after a 6 month break the servers were already nostly empty, then it took me another day to level up and get the skills i needed and i only had 1 pvp encounter.
I also think they should group ppl with multiclassing in normals so the timmes will have a normal time, seems like im going to suffer soon XD
Also, I heard that cutthroat doesn't work on ranged weapons, but it does work on the hand crossbow, so idk , but if it does work that can be a huge problem for those hybrid caster builds.
Im sorry to hear you are not enjoying it as much.
Hope things go well for you very soon
Test server is completely wack, normal servers are the move until they update that dog shid test server
Leveling characters on main takes way to long, only half the player base is even going to get to multiclass
Yeah its super tedious
Gladly they’re upping the xp gains and giving us levels retroactively. My big problem rn is that questing on multiple characters is such an annoying grind…
this game isn't for you maybe try some the other ones which u can pay to progress
@@nkbd1048 hope you find some positivity in your life outside the dark and darker grind ;)
@@rubsome getting a character up to level 35 doesn't that long tbh, but for people like him its better to play wow or something where you can buy a character boost.
rip ghost king kill
Im torn.
I want people to have fun but this is going to be so unhealthy for the game when it hits live servers. I'm worried that it'll drive a huge portion of playerbase away...
What about earthquake or locusts on wizard?
Never even used either spell so I have no idea XD
@Sparkykawa they are both strong spells but are super slow do lots of low damage tick damage. Having magic power/true magic damage and wizards knowledge would make it really strong
I get the impression you'd probably prefer them to just release a spellsword class
Yes, just give fighter an eldritch knight perk that lets him use spellbook and 5 wizard spells. Its been a thing in DnD for like 40 years XD
Thumbnail is really cute
Thank you!
Still never used two swords with ignite
I forgot lol but if you were watching my stream, you saw me ignite a slayer's weapons in the lobby and both his swords were on fire
@Sparkykawa nah I went to bed before it happened :(
Yeah weapon master on wizard may be better
Not enough str to make longsword viable imo and you also need shield mastery