Great discussion! The 51st psalm is probably the most important example of a prayer, next to the Lord's prayer, of any in the Bible. The most notable thing about David's prayer, and why God called him a man after his own heart, is because nowhere in the prayer does David say "he", that is David himself, is going to do anything to right the wrong he committed. It's a petition to God to do something in him. It's a prayer of utter dependency by a man who recognizes just how sinful he truly is.
Question: does that 4 fold punishment from His for stealing extend to non Christians as well?? Does that extend to all of the 10 commandments?? - as in harsher punishments?
It was NOT the R word. That "translation" is very modern and feminist in origin. It was evil and wicked, but it was not R and calling it that only seeks to remove agency and responsiblity from Bathsheeba. Are we seriously supposed to believe that a woman who was graped and then suffered a miscarriage would then willingly marry The King and bear him additional children? I love you guys but seriously this is a terrible way and interpretation of the text. The best thing is just to say that scripture is silent on Bathsheba's culpability.
I said that the best is to leave it the way the text does. If it was R then the Scriptures would have said it was. God had no problem with presenting David as being a murderer, but then is silent on calling him a R? Are we then also to believe that after suffering the death of her children she then allows her new husband who was previously her grapist to impregnate her again?
The Spirit of the Lord is moving. 🙏🏻
Great discussion! The 51st psalm is probably the most important example of a prayer, next to the Lord's prayer, of any in the Bible. The most notable thing about David's prayer, and why God called him a man after his own heart, is because nowhere in the prayer does David say "he", that is David himself, is going to do anything to right the wrong he committed. It's a petition to God to do something in him. It's a prayer of utter dependency by a man who recognizes just how sinful he truly is.
Question: does that 4 fold punishment from His for stealing extend to non Christians as well?? Does that extend to all of the 10 commandments?? - as in harsher punishments?
It was NOT the R word.
That "translation" is very modern and feminist in origin.
It was evil and wicked, but it was not R and calling it that only seeks to remove agency and responsiblity from Bathsheeba.
Are we seriously supposed to believe that a woman who was graped and then suffered a miscarriage would then willingly marry The King and bear him additional children? I love you guys but seriously this is a terrible way and interpretation of the text. The best thing is just to say that scripture is silent on Bathsheba's culpability.
What was it then? Saying what you think is isn't, doesn't offer up anything to say was it is.
I said that the best is to leave it the way the text does.
If it was R then the Scriptures would have said it was. God had no problem with presenting David as being a murderer, but then is silent on calling him a R?
Are we then also to believe that after suffering the death of her children she then allows her new husband who was previously her grapist to impregnate her again?
@therealesg3268 not really a response to my comment.