What an important video! I joined RoSPA (long time ago) and did their car course, and it was the ‘Information’ phase that completely revolutionised my driving. Before, I was constantly reacting to what I ‘suddenly’ saw, and it made my driving erratic and uncomfortable for driver and passengers. Being aware that I needed to gather, and respond to, information from as far away as possible made a HUGE difference to me and my security in the car. That has carried over to my motorcycling now I’m back on a bike in old age (78) and allows me to cope with all that those years bring with them. My machines are small (125 and 225cc) so “progress” is rarely an option, but information is just as important for gaining space and thus time. Thanks for this video (and all the others). Les
One thing that surprises me every day on my commute to and from work, is that lack of space/gap given between vehicles by seemingly the majority of road users. They sit so close together, that the only concentration that they can give, isn't on the road ahead, and surrounding hazards, it is solely focused on the vehicle in front of them. This can clearly be seen by the constant brake lights. If only people could be persuaded to give safe space. It could be one of the most important changes to road safety.
@@eddiejefferies3659 I like to play a game when following a couple of cars on an average B or un improved A road, where the nearest car to me is following the leader closely and there’s a constant display of brake lights owing to bends and straights and hills etc. I’ll sit behind, probably in a car pointing out what’s happening to my wife, and control the distance using only the throttle and observation. They’ll have been braking forty times and they haven’t had to touch ours. The other one is following a nervous comfort braker and calling out brakes on in anticipation of every dab they make. Obviously again I’m not needing any. It makes being stuck behind idiots more entertaining.
This bloody video has been on my mind all day. Now I've started musing on the Cultural aspects of 'education' ... and how it is that many Brits have the idea that education is something which is 'done to you'. You go to an Establishment, wherein knowledge is poured into your head. Then, you leave with your little Certificate, and that's it, all done. In fact, I've met a couple of people who have proudly told me that they've never opened a book since leaving school. Of course, there are many ways to learn, which don't involve book-work, or dedicated teachers. But, I think that their statements were indicative of hostile attitudes towards learning. A hostility arising from Cultural mores, I would argue. I met this guy once, who said that many people imagine their minds as being like buckets, into which Teachers pour learning, until they're full. He lamented that we Brits generally have a culture in which Education is perceived as being 'more akin to filling a bucket, rather than to lighting a fire '. Well, that metaphorical 'fire' resolves to be a desire for knowledge and for self-improvement. It's a fair bet that each of your viewers has a bit of that 'fire'. But, it's not a universal human characteristic, as far as I can tell.
This is an interesting topic. Perhaps it's down to government funding. Adult courses use to be free. Now, they're quite expensive. Yes, it's an investment into oneself, but it doesn't act as encouragement. Yes, people should never stop learning. Everyday is a school day 🤓
Another great video and it's extremely important we don't fall into the 'l know everything" TRAP. I worry about All Knowing People, they drive/ride around like there's nothing else to learn. I count my mistakes, which are usually minor, like not paying attention or momentarily daydreaming, silly things, like watching a driver texting when l should be watching the road ahead. I shout at myself sometimes, like, WATCH WHERE YOUR GOING YA ×××× But I'm relaxed and happy normally. Stay Alert ⚠️
The parallels between motorcycling and flying, continually astonish me. If you fly with an experienced guy ... he's like a 'one-armed paper hanger' ... he just can't find enough time to perform all of his various tasks. And, he thinks to himself, "I'll never be able to do this; there's just too much going-on." But, sit next to someone who is both experienced AND competence (not always synonymous terms), and you can be forgiven for thinking that he's dozing-off. He's miles ahead of the aeroplane, anticipating every task, and directing his attention only where it's needed. Now, that's how I imagine that you ride yer bike; half-a-mile ahead of it, unhurried and 'collected'. Most of the time, anyway. As you allude, it's about mustering your mental resources and learning to use them effectively and efficiently. And, as you become more competent, so many tasks become "second-nature", requiring no apparent mental effort; and this frees-up your conscious mind to address other factors. More novel factors. So, your flustered new riders are committing so much of their minds to the mechanics of riding ; gears, clutches, brakes and indicators, junctions and road-signage. But, someone like you won't spare a conscious thought for mechanical handling skills; so all of your mind is freed for higher-level operations. Having said all that, I don't know how much of this can be 'taught'. I suppose that peeps need a good level of overall competence, before they can even begin to consider the more advanced aspects of their riding. It's going to take time and repeated exposure to situations. Fascinating topic, really. In terms of reaction time, I understand that 'pure reaction' doesn't show a decrement until you're 70-or-so. So, if I say to you, "When this light comes on, hit that button." you can do that as fast as an 18-year-old. Age and experience DO lead you to make more considered decisions, when you're faced with complex stimuli. So, in a complex road environment, you may react more slowly than a young person, but your response might be more appropriate to that situation. And, because your mind is half-a-mile ahead of your bike, you've already considered most of the options. Well, I hope that's true, anyway. Thinking about this, let me ask a question, "Why do some people develop these competences, while others fail to do so?" Two arms, two legs, two eyes, the same levels of experience ... but one of them has developed much greater competence than the other. If we can answer that, then we'll know where to direct our efforts in improving those levels of competence. I suspect that it's a consequence of Attitudes, but I'm only guessing.
Parts of your comment reminded me of a book called The Upper Half of the Motorcycle by Bernt Spiegel. You may find it interesting if you can get hold of a copy. I found it a fascinating. If I recall correctly he refers to the skills practiced enough so they're in the subconscious, which works faster than the conscious part. I interpreted it as second nature or muscle memory. Also talks about how our evolved brain and our ability to walk upright, the balance it requires suiting riding motorcycles and bicycle etc. And much more.
Sure lots of Parallels between flying and riding. I used to teach flying instructors to become instructors. Part of this was discussing KSA in the learning environment. KSA in this context being Knowledge, Skills, Attitude. A good analogy was to create an iceberg of competencies whereupon the viewable tip was the Knowledge and Skill however to be able to float K and S we really needed to concentrate on the mainstay underwater ‘Attitude’ . So I feel you have answered your own question from observation, which would appear to be the lesson of the day 😂😂😂😂
Been watching your back catalogue and thoroughly enjoying them. A comment that springs to mind very early in this vid when you said you’re told you’re fast, is , as you point out, you don’t think you are. And from watching your rides, I don’t either. What I have seen is smooth: good observation good decisions good positions, which all add up to good progress which is a million miles from hammering around and braking hard and getting caught in traffic through lack of observation and planning. I’d be more than happy to accept a pillion ride off you , where there’s plenty of other channels which I absolutely wouldn’t. I’m fond of small lanes and little villages in east Sussex , so seeing your Kent equivalent is very nice. Keep up your good work.
I have been riding big bikes since 1993. And I have not taken any extra training. It’s just common sense and riding defensively. Thankfully after 31 years I am still here.
Hi , I’ve had a Licence since the 1960s , but not ridden solidly all that time . I’ve driven cars since the 60s too . Also have been a cyclist since the age of 8 . I am wary all the time but today’s roads make me nervous. Been nearly wiped out a few times by lorries , huge tractors . My sense of self preservation is strong have survived to age 78 . The lights on modern vehicles are ridiculously bright , and modern cars have too many screens , phones , music systems and driver distractions, not to mention steering systems like automatic braking , lane keeping devices which auto steer taking over from the driver . Low light , dazzle from low sun , deer leaping out of woods .......etc . It’s a jungle out there . But vision and wariness is the thing , I totally agree , but we all need some luck on occasions! Cheers, DaveH 😅
I have been saying that for years. That if our vision is impaired in some way should we carry the same speed or should we slow. We know that if we are no longer being able to see a greater distance we should slow ie. If we have been seeing some 200 yards but a car pulls out on us and our vision is now down to say 50 yards, hopefully we would slow. However in many circumstances where visibility is lost we don't apply the same rule. If in wet weather, or damp roads or dusk or dawn or night time, when its. raining or misty or slightly foggy or otherwise if our 100% of vision is lost and reduced to say 70 or 60% only, Do we slow, no we don't but perhaps we should. If we adjust our riding to the conditions prevalent at that time then we don't need luck on our side as we would always be riding with greater safety.
Another great lesson/reminder. 👍 My solution is to talk to myself occasionally, as if giving a commentary to someone. I find this lifts my vision and stops that 'auto pilot' syndrome creeping in, especially on a long ride.
I always ride how I was taught by my instructor and what you say in your videos I agree with 100%.... riding the right way isn't boring it's what will keep you safe! I used your videos to help me pass my test back in July and I always keep watching because it's good to keep this information fresh!.. Keep up the good work, your videos are worth watching not just for those wanting to pass but for those like myself who like to ride safe 👌🏍
Great description of the eyes/biology at 6:44 "sometimes they’re moving in conjunction with head movements; sometimes they're are just moving within the skull itself"
Motorcycle riders make better car drivers? I believe that's true. Better observations and anticipation. Looking ahead, reading the road, traffic signals, etc.
I'm finding myself imagining being on my bike when driving my car. Yes "Reading the road" is vital! When going through a green light I always look to ensure that other road users are not driving through a red light.
Great video- love it. Having seen some of your clips, I appreciate the learnings that come out of them. This video in particular is so important, thanks for sharing.
I really appreciate your videos; there's always something valuable to learn about roadcraft. I'm very familiar with all the local roads you ride, and if I do ever see you out and about, I'll be sure to give you a big thank-you wave
I believe looking down rather than ahead is an instinct to ensure we don't tread on something dangerous at walking or running speeds. So a conscious effort has to be made to train ourselves to lift our vision and look further down the road on a bike at much faster speeds.
If one looks well ahead and can see what other people will be doing it's also easier to react if (when) someone behaves in an odd way - because if they do one unexpected thing they are more likely to do more... Indicators, I always use them because the most important person I use them for is the guy I missed is there. So while I hope I'm a safe driver that keeps an eye out for everyone I know I'm human and will miss someone and that day (s)he has a better chance of avoiding an accident if I use my signals.
Good vid.....I picked up on 19:13 effectively mentioning we can sometimes see something but (for whatever reason) can't see enough or can't fully process the info in the moment. Huge value in mentally recognising & responding to such moments.....even if all we do is perhaps to ease off a bit & do our best to further evaluate. Thanks ...All the best 👍🏍
Have watched your videos for 3 years and always great content, thankyou. I passed my test in 2021 cat A and at 44 i was a late starter! I love being on my bike. I have continued with additional training one-after-another (DVSA Enhanced, DIAmond, RoSPA, IAM Advanced, Bike Safe, Biker Down, Driver First Response) and recently passed my IAM Masters. I would recommend to anybody that continued learning and adding to your ‘toolkit’ in my opinion is essential. It’s also made me a far better car driver as well.
Another great video thanks. I keep extolling the value of advanced training, but people think it doesn’t work (no, I don’t understand their reasoning for this either), or they think they know it all already. I’ll keep on putting it out there though 😀😀
I've found that whilst training and as a new rider one of the observational problems I faced was that I knew to look right up the road. As you're approaching junctions or anything that requires thought about controlling the motorcycle I was getting very lazy about bringing my gaze back up or away from possible hazards after registering them. Maybe it's not so much about target fixation but near area fixation? Either way discussing observation in videos like this is an excellent way to make drivers/riders more aware of their behaviours. Thank you for taking the time to make these great videos.
Hello - I was watching that car at 11:53! He could/should have waited until you had completed your manoeuvre before pulling out. Another great instructional video, thank you.
@@deanmsimpson They do pull out on artics, trust me, some driver have a mentality "must get in front of the truck" which isn't so bad when they get on with it and disappear, but others must get past you then slow down to a speed which is lower than you were driving.
Best thing I ever did was doing a course, started with a freebie in the form of a "Bikesafe" observed ride run by the local police. Then paid to do some "refresher training' on a 3 day course, nothing better than having someone constructively critique your riding, then giving you the tools to improve your riding, I feel some sort of Continuous Development should be mandatory for all road users.
I thought that was very good advice, and well demonstrated. I have been motorcycling now for over 30 years, and completed various bikesafes, latterly becoming an advanced rider via the IAM. I still treat every ride as a learning curve. I thought it was amusing your comment about you don’t hang around’ this really is all about IPSGA… I so wish, I could help young riders who have just picked up their first bike etc. nobody told me about counter steering, or fast progressive breaking when the bike is in a bend… Keep up the good work. I am sure you are saving lives…
Interesting.The advantage of keeping your eyes moving, far more often than when looking directly at something, it's your peripheral vision which spot's something. Particularly movement. "Seeing something out the corner of your eye"
Nice to see you back to do a video. Always appreciated. Found your content very useful. Channel 4 program I agree with you. It was the chap that went up and down on the ladders comments of... if he got his disability money what he would spend it on that pissed me off! Take someone like myself. Now I've used mine to buy aids, a hoist for my bath and my mobility chair. Also a disability mattress and topper to help relief the daily pain I am in 24-7 from my severe osteoarthritis and fractured coccyx. Hand holds, railings round my toilet so I don't fall. I also have complex nutritional issues and under the care of a NHS dietitian. If it had not been for PIP I would not been able to afford my aids that I need on a daily basis. Occupational therapy here is rubbish and that's why I had to buy all my own aids. They can offer you some hand holds and a plastic high toilet seat but unfortunately none that catered for my specific needs. It helps to pay for care costs to make life more manageable. A person can spend their PIP/ADP on what they wish. I spend mine on disability. I just want to represent disabled people in a positive way. Hope I haven't offended anyone in my comments.
Right, I am off out to practice, thanks again, another timely reminder, as peoples concentration may not be as sharp over the holidays as we would hope (our own included). Too many distractions at this time of year.
You never stop learning - no 2 days are the same, weather, light, road, traffic, animals, people, debris, hidden drives, spillages......on and on and on
Most useful. Thank you. I also enjoy the strategies as taught by Dan Dan the Fireman on YT. Crash and accident analysis from dashcam videos, though troubling, is most useful and sobering. I enjoy to keep myself sharp and alert as I transist through states of alertness depending on what I see; by speaking out loud as you have done for us here.
At 13.55 it was said that its quite nice when the sun is behind you. Nothing could be further from the truth. Its more dangerous behind you than it is in front. If you are casting a shadow anywhere in front of you it means that the sun is behind you and the longer your shadow is the lower the sun is behind you, You therefore may not be seen by any road users who are looking towards you and DIRECTLY TOWARDS THE LOW SUN. A driver that might want to turn into your road space from your nearside or even an offside junction or a road user approaching you that may want to turn right and does so directly in front of you. . So never ever believe that you are perfectly safe if at any time you are riding with the sun at your back. As you move around bends, curves etc. watch out for the long shadow that you are casting and that is your danger point of recognition. Yes your vision may be good as a result of the low sun but it's the vision of others in front of you that is now difficult and dangerous. TO YOU. and to themselves. I have seen them waiting in their cars or vans etc. at nearside junctions and trying to look towards me and towards the low sun through dirty side windows and with no sun glasses on and no sun visor turned to their right and therefore they appear to be having great difficulty in seeing anything including me. Do they not know that that sun visor can be moved from its position to their right and then it will cover the side window? If they only would wind down that window and turned their sun visor over to be above that window opening, thus protecting their eyes for the direct effect of the sun they and I would be a lot safer. But they are either ignorant or just too lazy to do those two things and collisions happen as a consequence.
At 16.00 mins we turn and face into the sunlight and what happens? the screen is dirty and scratched and due to that we temporarily see less of the road scene ahead. First we should replace dirty and scratches screens an secondly we should be able to see aver them, and not only through them. If it had been raining and the screen would also be wet and thus our forward vision would be considerably reduced and that reduces our safety and the safety of others.
Very true Bob, it’s strange what you say when chatting generally without clarification. As soon as I read your comment I thought, yes , and how many times have I said that to people myself!! Thank you for raising it 👍
Come on Bob. You’re battering me tonight! I see over my screen, my camera is much lower than my eyes. I always replace visors, but a well used ex police bmw screen is not cheap to replace.
At 18.07 its a narrow single track road and look we are riding with the sun directly behind us as we are casting a long shadow., Would any driver coming towards us and looking directly at the sun see us on that narrow road? I think not. We should be very careful here and slow down quite a bit to allow for that potential danger.
I’m in the Uk and I’ve noticed nowadays that people in general have no awareness of other road users at all. Training needs to be a lot better than it is. Judging stopping distances seems to have gone out of the window. It’s got so bad now, I EXPECT other drivers to pull out in front of me - even when they are sitting behind ‘give way’ markings on the road. Also, where I live, I also expect people to come round a blind corner on MY side of the road and I move over in anticipation.
Observation is the absolute key to improvement, it's useful as well to talk a commentary to yourself as you ride, because if you can keep up a coherent stream of commentary, then you must be observing and noting pretty much everything as you progress. It's a shame that the IAM advanced test doesn't include a requirement for commentary for the benefit of the examiner, he would get a proper understanding of how a candidate observed if it were.
Just to add if I may. You should have your own television program on "Advance Motorcycling Techniques" or at least be featured on the Motorbike show for example! The motorcycle industry needs an ambassador when it comes to motorcycle safety and best practices.
don't forget to read all the road signs and take in the information and be prepared to act on it i have been on metropolitan police bike safe and dsa rider coarse and your never to old to learn something new ride safe people
Have you ever sat as a passenger in a car, and tried to count the number of road-signs that you pass on a journey? The amount of information that the driver is expected to process ... and either discard or act upon ... is phenomenal. And, they impinge upon your eyes, and are gone so quickly. It really is quite remarkable that the brain can handle all that information; and all the while performing the mundane tasks associated with gears and clutches and other traffic. You have to develop a system for prioritizing the information, and deciding which bits should be ignored. But nowadays, it's the 'cameras' which tend to occupy an unhealthy amount of your mental capacity. The more time I spend fretting about potential speeding fines, the less time I can devote to avoiding collisions. Maybe. Perhaps that is something to speculate upon ... the idea that the over-enthusiastic policing of speed, MIGHT contribute to other undesirable outcomes. And I'm convinced that some Local Authorities have a policy of 'manufacturing' uncertainty as to the speed limits on certain sections of road.
I always enjoy the video content, different ideas to consider. We get to question is it how i would ride. I have been driving for over 40 years and obtained my full motorbike licence over 20. years ago. I have to think the approach to the roundabout approx 11 odd minutes in could be different. Surely you should be in lane one as you are going straight taking the second exit, you had time and space after you pass the fiat 500, just an observation i felt that was a safer route
@darylrook9641 thanks for your comment here. I hear what you say. I presume you mean the roundabout at 11:46? If so, either a lane 1 or lane 2 approach would be ok. Where a dual carriageway is involved with 2 in 2 out its optional; both have their advantages and risks. A usual advantage with lane 2 is that it can be quicker, unless there are vehicles turning right. It will also keep you further away from vehicles entering, such as the overkeen silver car. One could argue that it might not have pulled out so promptly had I been in lane 1? But it might, so conjecture. A disadvantage of lane 2 to 2 is a vehicle alongside in lane 1 might turn right in front of you, hence why I never get alongside anything at the critical point, always being sufficiently ahead or waiting to confirm the exit ahead. Lane 1 to go ahead is seen as a "default" position to go ahead, certainly on a non dual carriageway roundabout. Disadvantage could be that you are closer to waiting traffic to the left and progress may be slower. The alternative would be a straight line with no lane discipline, great for progress but needs to be in the absence of other vehicles for safety. So pros and cons for both, as long as awareness is good and another road user is not adversely affected, its down to the individual rides assessment. All the best
@@MotorcyclePWR The car in front of you when discussing the subject of tunnel vision was in lane 2 and went straight ahead (2nd Exit) Seem ok to me (IMHO) That car pulling out at 11:53 presented a "potential" hazard/threat so being in lane 2 looked to be safest and best option. As to whether the car at 11:53 would have still pulled out if you were in the inside lane, we will never know. I find the subject of "advanced motorcycling training" extremely interesting. I speak as a "Back to Biker" this year having not ridden for many years having passed my test in the 80's
At 20.00 mins a good stretch of road and so slowing to view the scenery. But what speed was he doing? Well the telegraph poles are situated approximately some 60 metres apart and it took him approx. 4 seconds between them. So his bike was doing about 15 metres per sec which roughly relates to 45 ft. per sec. which gives us an approx. speed of about 30 mph. If it took him just 3 secs. to move the distance of the telegraph poles then his speed would then be about 40 mph and if it took him just 2 seconds between poles he would be doing about 60 mph. At 60 mph stopping distance would be some 240 ft according to the H.C. and the distance between two telegraph poles would be some 190/200 ft approx. However Stopping distance at 50 mph would be some 175 ft. and at 40 mph it would be half of the 60 mph one at only some 120 ft. Make of that what you will. Does it make you think. Maybe travel a little slower perhaps, or maybe not. Your choice.
I would love to learn more with an instructor. I can see the real benefits. Sadly though while we have a legal responsibility to buy insurance there is no legal responsibility for that to be affordable and so the money I'd like to save toward extra teaching just gets paid to the shareholders of companies I haven't called on in decades. Insurance is a monopoly and the providers know that. Government has admitted they are now harming the UK economy and have asked for a meeting. Whoopee. Meanwhile ministers also described the FCA as "Incompetent at best, dishonest at worst" . So my money is taken by insurance companies while I just practice by myself and watch channels like this for tips. The government needs to act.
yes a lot of truth here I feel. I always feel that "risk" can be written up any way you wish when you are an insurance underwriter. Instructors are high risk, advanced riders are high risk, inexperienced riders are high risk, high mileage riders are as well as occasional ones! But no credit for being a safe, diligent, competent and respectful road user. As usual, we are paying for everyone elses poor road use and attitude.
What bloke? PWR? It’s a bit of a sweeping statement to say that’s where ALL the debris is. It can be anywhere and road positioning depends a lot more on other factors. I think all us experienced bikers know there is crap all over the road but I don’t see any constant middle lane positioning. Perhaps you need to think more flexibly?
Thank you for the advice. I don’t ride in any given position by default and after 40 years are well aware of the potential problems by using x position. I make conscious decisions as to where I position and if I was having weekly punctures I would need to question what I was doing! We used to be told to not ride in the centre because of sump oil, that was in the days of older cars, modern cars don’t leak oil like the old days but diesel tanks that overflow or leak are often more to the off centre. Sadly there is no one cure all road position. But I will use the centre of my lane where appropriate, it’s also an area less worn by vehicle tyres and containing potentially less rubber deposits, therefore affording more grip.
@@MotorcyclePWR I totally agree with your statements particularly the last paragraph about there being more available grip on the sump line as its not worn down by car tyres continually running over it. The added benefit is on a wet road it drains better, is dryer and suffers less water remaining on it and so its braking distance is better than the other positions that are completely wet and, as said are full of rubber with less grip. So braking is improved on the sump line Diesel spills usually are found on bends, roundabouts and outside petrol stations. Some years ago there was a greater problem than they is now as they now have devices fitted to newer vehicle that prevent such spills from happening but some still do. About riding in the 1 or 3 position, they say that on can benefit on a wet road from riding behind another vehicle as their car tyres disturb and disperse the water on the road and thus make it less wet. [ presuming safer ] That said my argument against that is that if you are close enough to benefit from such then to my mind you are too close and therefore you should pull back to a safer stopping position as per the H. C. and that would make you safer than relying on a less wet road with less grip and perhaps tailgating to boot.
What an important video! I joined RoSPA (long time ago) and did their car course, and it was the ‘Information’ phase that completely revolutionised my driving. Before, I was constantly reacting to what I ‘suddenly’ saw, and it made my driving erratic and uncomfortable for driver and passengers. Being aware that I needed to gather, and respond to, information from as far away as possible made a HUGE difference to me and my security in the car. That has carried over to my motorcycling now I’m back on a bike in old age (78) and allows me to cope with all that those years bring with them. My machines are small (125 and 225cc) so “progress” is rarely an option, but information is just as important for gaining space and thus time. Thanks for this video (and all the others). Les
One thing that surprises me every day on my commute to and from work, is that lack of space/gap given between vehicles by seemingly the majority of road users.
They sit so close together, that the only concentration that they can give, isn't on the road ahead, and surrounding hazards, it is solely focused on the vehicle in front of them. This can clearly be seen by the constant brake lights.
If only people could be persuaded to give safe space. It could be one of the most important changes to road safety.
@@eddiejefferies3659 I like to play a game when following a couple of cars on an average B or un improved A road, where the nearest car to me is following the leader closely and there’s a constant display of brake lights owing to bends and straights and hills etc. I’ll sit behind, probably in a car pointing out what’s happening to my wife, and control the distance using only the throttle and observation. They’ll have been braking forty times and they haven’t had to touch ours.
The other one is following a nervous comfort braker and calling out brakes on in anticipation of every dab they make. Obviously again I’m not needing any. It makes being stuck behind idiots more entertaining.
This bloody video has been on my mind all day.
Now I've started musing on the Cultural aspects of 'education' ... and how it is that many Brits have the idea that education is something which is 'done to you'. You go to an Establishment, wherein knowledge is poured into your head. Then, you leave with your little Certificate, and that's it, all done.
In fact, I've met a couple of people who have proudly told me that they've never opened a book since leaving school. Of course, there are many ways to learn, which don't involve book-work, or dedicated teachers. But, I think that their statements were indicative of hostile attitudes towards learning. A hostility arising from Cultural mores, I would argue.
I met this guy once, who said that many people imagine their minds as being like buckets, into which Teachers pour learning, until they're full. He lamented that we Brits generally have a culture in which Education is perceived as being 'more akin to filling a bucket, rather than to lighting a fire '. Well, that metaphorical 'fire' resolves to be a desire for knowledge and for self-improvement. It's a fair bet that each of your viewers has a bit of that 'fire'. But, it's not a universal human characteristic, as far as I can tell.
This is an interesting topic. Perhaps it's down to government funding. Adult courses use to be free. Now, they're quite expensive. Yes, it's an investment into oneself, but it doesn't act as encouragement.
Yes, people should never stop learning. Everyday is a school day 🤓
Another great video and it's extremely important we don't fall into the 'l know everything" TRAP.
I worry about All Knowing People, they drive/ride around like there's nothing else to learn.
I count my mistakes, which are usually minor, like not paying attention or momentarily daydreaming, silly things, like watching a driver texting when l should be watching the road ahead.
I shout at myself sometimes, like, WATCH WHERE YOUR GOING YA ××××
But I'm relaxed and happy normally.
Stay Alert ⚠️
The parallels between motorcycling and flying, continually astonish me.
If you fly with an experienced guy ... he's like a 'one-armed paper hanger' ... he just can't find enough time to perform all of his various tasks. And, he thinks to himself, "I'll never be able to do this; there's just too much going-on."
But, sit next to someone who is both experienced AND competence (not always synonymous terms), and you can be forgiven for thinking that he's dozing-off. He's miles ahead of the aeroplane, anticipating every task, and directing his attention only where it's needed. Now, that's how I imagine that you ride yer bike; half-a-mile ahead of it, unhurried and 'collected'. Most of the time, anyway.
As you allude, it's about mustering your mental resources and learning to use them effectively and efficiently. And, as you become more competent, so many tasks become "second-nature", requiring no apparent mental effort; and this frees-up your conscious mind to address other factors. More novel factors. So, your flustered new riders are committing so much of their minds to the mechanics of riding ; gears, clutches, brakes and indicators, junctions and road-signage. But, someone like you won't spare a conscious thought for mechanical handling skills; so all of your mind is freed for higher-level operations.
Having said all that, I don't know how much of this can be 'taught'. I suppose that peeps need a good level of overall competence, before they can even begin to consider the more advanced aspects of their riding. It's going to take time and repeated exposure to situations. Fascinating topic, really.
In terms of reaction time, I understand that 'pure reaction' doesn't show a decrement until you're 70-or-so. So, if I say to you, "When this light comes on, hit that button." you can do that as fast as an 18-year-old. Age and experience DO lead you to make more considered decisions, when you're faced with complex stimuli. So, in a complex road environment, you may react more slowly than a young person, but your response might be more appropriate to that situation. And, because your mind is half-a-mile ahead of your bike, you've already considered most of the options. Well, I hope that's true, anyway.
Thinking about this, let me ask a question, "Why do some people develop these competences, while others fail to do so?" Two arms, two legs, two eyes, the same levels of experience ... but one of them has developed much greater competence than the other. If we can answer that, then we'll know where to direct our efforts in improving those levels of competence. I suspect that it's a consequence of Attitudes, but I'm only guessing.
Parts of your comment reminded me of a book called The Upper Half of the Motorcycle by Bernt Spiegel. You may find it interesting if you can get hold of a copy. I found it a fascinating. If I recall correctly he refers to the skills practiced enough so they're in the subconscious, which works faster than the conscious part. I interpreted it as second nature or muscle memory. Also talks about how our evolved brain and our ability to walk upright, the balance it requires suiting riding motorcycles and bicycle etc. And much more.
@@Ken.ch452also known as being in the zone. Concentration is at such a high, constant level you enter a trance like state
@@RedDragonUncagedReminds me of a book I read about Ayton Senna and his famous lap around the Monaco GP.
Sure lots of Parallels between flying and riding. I used to teach flying instructors to become instructors. Part of this was discussing KSA in the learning environment. KSA in this context being Knowledge, Skills, Attitude. A good analogy was to create an iceberg of competencies whereupon the viewable tip was the Knowledge and Skill however to be able to float K and S we really needed to concentrate on the mainstay underwater ‘Attitude’ . So I feel you have answered your own question from observation, which would appear to be the lesson of the day 😂😂😂😂
Been watching your back catalogue and thoroughly enjoying them. A comment that springs to mind very early in this vid when you said you’re told you’re fast, is , as you point out, you don’t think you are. And from watching your rides, I don’t either. What I have seen is smooth: good observation good decisions good positions, which all add up to good progress which is a million miles from hammering around and braking hard and getting caught in traffic through lack of observation and planning. I’d be more than happy to accept a pillion ride off you , where there’s plenty of other channels which I absolutely wouldn’t.
I’m fond of small lanes and little villages in east Sussex , so seeing your Kent equivalent is very nice. Keep up your good work.
I have been riding big bikes since 1993. And I have not taken any extra training. It’s just common sense and riding defensively. Thankfully after 31 years I am still here.
Except common sense isn’t so common.
Hi , I’ve had a Licence since the 1960s , but not ridden solidly all that time . I’ve driven cars since the 60s too . Also have been a cyclist since the age of 8 . I am wary all the time but today’s roads make me nervous. Been nearly wiped out a few times by lorries , huge tractors . My sense of self preservation is strong have survived to age 78 . The lights on modern vehicles are ridiculously bright , and modern cars have too many screens , phones , music systems and driver distractions, not to mention steering systems like automatic braking , lane keeping devices which auto steer taking over from the driver .
Low light , dazzle from low sun , deer leaping out of woods .......etc . It’s a jungle out there . But vision and wariness is the thing , I totally agree , but we all need some luck on occasions! Cheers, DaveH 😅
I have been saying that for years. That if our vision is impaired in some way should we carry the same speed or should we slow. We know that if we are no longer being able to see a greater distance we should slow ie. If we have been seeing some 200 yards but a car pulls out on us and our vision is now down to say 50 yards, hopefully we would slow.
However in many circumstances where visibility is lost we don't apply the same rule. If in wet weather, or damp roads or dusk or dawn or night time, when its. raining or misty or slightly foggy or otherwise if our 100% of vision is lost and reduced to say 70 or 60% only, Do we slow, no we don't but perhaps we should.
If we adjust our riding to the conditions prevalent at that time then we don't need luck on our side as we would always be riding with greater safety.
Another great lesson/reminder. 👍 My solution is to talk to myself occasionally, as if giving a commentary to someone. I find this lifts my vision and stops that 'auto pilot' syndrome creeping in, especially on a long ride.
Many thanks Phil for all the effort you have put into your videos. Merry Christmas.
Paul
Thank you Paul, that’s much appreciated 🙏 merry Christmas 🎄 all the best
I always ride how I was taught by my instructor and what you say in your videos I agree with 100%.... riding the right way isn't boring it's what will keep you safe! I used your videos to help me pass my test back in July and I always keep watching because it's good to keep this information fresh!.. Keep up the good work, your videos are worth watching not just for those wanting to pass but for those like myself who like to ride safe 👌🏍
Great description of the eyes/biology at 6:44 "sometimes they’re moving in conjunction with head movements; sometimes they're are just moving within the skull itself"
Motorcycle riders make better car drivers? I believe that's true. Better observations and anticipation. Looking ahead, reading the road, traffic signals, etc.
I'm finding myself imagining being on my bike when driving my car.
Yes "Reading the road" is vital!
When going through a green light I always look to ensure that other road users are not driving through a red light.
Passed my mod 1 yesterday…. Module 2 in mid January and I absolutely plan to carry on extra training….
Enjoyed that, thank you...
Great video- love it. Having seen some of your clips, I appreciate the learnings that come out of them. This video in particular is so important, thanks for sharing.
I really appreciate your videos; there's always something valuable to learn about roadcraft. I'm very familiar with all the local roads you ride, and if I do ever see you out and about, I'll be sure to give you a big thank-you wave
Thank you, I will keep an eye out for you 👍
I believe looking down rather than ahead is an instinct to ensure we don't tread on something dangerous at walking or running speeds. So a conscious effort has to be made to train ourselves to lift our vision and look further down the road on a bike at much faster speeds.
Once again excellent advice demonstrated in your video.
Cheers.
Hi. Daily motorcycle commuter here in Southern California. Really enjoying all your safety tips. Please make more! Really helps alot. Cheers!
If one looks well ahead and can see what other people will be doing it's also easier to react if (when) someone behaves in an odd way - because if they do one unexpected thing they are more likely to do more...
Indicators, I always use them because the most important person I use them for is the guy I missed is there. So while I hope I'm a safe driver that keeps an eye out for everyone I know I'm human and will miss someone and that day (s)he has a better chance of avoiding an accident if I use my signals.
It also helps that you have your eyes tested regular. Especially when you get to a certain age. As it you are responsibility nobody else.
Good vid.....I picked up on 19:13 effectively mentioning we can sometimes see something but (for whatever reason) can't see enough or can't fully process the info in the moment. Huge value in mentally recognising & responding to such moments.....even if all we do is perhaps to ease off a bit & do our best to further evaluate.
Thanks ...All the best 👍🏍
All the best AW8 hope life is treating you well
I love your videos.
So informative and helpful
Please keep them going 👍
Have watched your videos for 3 years and always great content, thankyou. I passed my test in 2021 cat A and at 44 i was a late starter! I love being on my bike. I have continued with additional training one-after-another (DVSA Enhanced, DIAmond, RoSPA, IAM Advanced, Bike Safe, Biker Down, Driver First Response) and recently passed my IAM Masters. I would recommend to anybody that continued learning and adding to your ‘toolkit’ in my opinion is essential. It’s also made me a far better car driver as well.
Another great video thanks. I keep extolling the value of advanced training, but people think it doesn’t work (no, I don’t understand their reasoning for this either), or they think they know it all already. I’ll keep on putting it out there though 😀😀
I've found that whilst training and as a new rider one of the observational problems I faced was that I knew to look right up the road. As you're approaching junctions or anything that requires thought about controlling the motorcycle I was getting very lazy about bringing my gaze back up or away from possible hazards after registering them. Maybe it's not so much about target fixation but near area fixation? Either way discussing observation in videos like this is an excellent way to make drivers/riders more aware of their behaviours.
Thank you for taking the time to make these great videos.
Spot on and very well put across.
Hello - I was watching that car at 11:53! He could/should have waited until you had completed your manoeuvre before pulling out.
Another great instructional video, thank you.
Yes, that driver wouldn't have pulled out like that if the motorcycle was an artic lorry.
Yes absolutely, I had a close eye on his front wheels! All the best
@@deanmsimpson They do pull out on artics, trust me, some driver have a mentality "must get in front of the truck" which isn't so bad when they get on with it and disappear, but others must get past you then slow down to a speed which is lower than you were driving.
Best thing I ever did was doing a course, started with a freebie in the form of a "Bikesafe" observed ride run by the local police. Then paid to do some "refresher training' on a 3 day course, nothing better than having someone constructively critique your riding, then giving you the tools to improve your riding, I feel some sort of Continuous Development should be mandatory for all road users.
Great information on this video, thank you. Keep em coming 👍
Brillant video. The principles are demonstrated and explained so clearly that they make sence immediately. Definitely one to share with friends
Great to hear!
I thought that was very good advice, and well demonstrated. I have been motorcycling now for over 30 years, and completed various bikesafes, latterly becoming an advanced rider via the IAM. I still treat every ride as a learning curve. I thought it was amusing your comment about you don’t hang around’ this really is all about IPSGA…
I so wish, I could help young riders who have just picked up their first bike etc. nobody told me about counter steering, or fast progressive breaking when the bike is in a bend…
Keep up the good work. I am sure you are saving lives…
Great insight for anyone wondering about the advanced systems/what's involved etc and related aspects to be borne in mind! 👌🏼
Interesting.The advantage of keeping your eyes moving, far more often than when looking directly at something, it's your peripheral vision which spot's something. Particularly movement.
"Seeing something out the corner of your eye"
Nice to see you back to do a video. Always appreciated. Found your content very useful. Channel 4 program I agree with you. It was the chap that went up and down on the ladders comments of... if he got his disability money what he would spend it on that pissed me off!
Take someone like myself. Now I've used mine to buy aids, a hoist for my bath and my mobility chair. Also a disability mattress and topper to help relief the daily pain I am in 24-7 from my severe osteoarthritis and fractured coccyx. Hand holds, railings round my toilet so I don't fall. I also have complex nutritional issues and under the care of a NHS dietitian. If it had not been for PIP I would not been able to afford my aids that I need on a daily basis. Occupational therapy here is rubbish and that's why I had to buy all my own aids. They can offer you some hand holds and a plastic high toilet seat but unfortunately none that catered for my specific needs.
It helps to pay for care costs to make life more manageable. A person can spend their PIP/ADP on what they wish. I spend mine on disability. I just want to represent disabled people in a positive way. Hope I haven't offended anyone in my comments.
Right, I am off out to practice, thanks again, another timely reminder, as peoples concentration may not be as sharp over the holidays as we would hope (our own included). Too many distractions at this time of year.
I love biking and learning. I've done BikeSafe, ROSPA and also advanced rider training. I still say I'm a beginner and still have lots to learn.
You never stop learning - no 2 days are the same, weather, light, road, traffic, animals, people, debris, hidden drives, spillages......on and on and on
Knew you’d say Observation & IPSGA! Great video as always Phil, see you in spring & merry Xmas to you & the family.
@cedricduwat3839 ah thank you Cedric. I hope you are well. Merry Xmas to you all and I look forward to seeing you in the new year.
Most useful. Thank you.
I also enjoy the strategies as taught by Dan Dan the Fireman on YT. Crash and accident analysis from dashcam videos, though troubling, is most useful and sobering.
I enjoy to keep myself sharp and alert as I transist through states of alertness depending on what I see; by speaking out loud as you have done for us here.
At 13.55 it was said that its quite nice when the sun is behind you. Nothing could be further from the truth. Its more dangerous behind you than it is in front.
If you are casting a shadow anywhere in front of you it means that the sun is behind you and the longer your shadow is the lower the sun is behind you, You therefore may not be seen by any road users who are looking towards you and DIRECTLY TOWARDS THE LOW SUN. A driver that might want to turn into your road space from your nearside or even an offside junction or a road user approaching you that may want to turn right and does so directly in front of you. .
So never ever believe that you are perfectly safe if at any time you are riding with the sun at your back. As you move around bends, curves etc. watch out for the long shadow that you are casting and that is your danger point of recognition.
Yes your vision may be good as a result of the low sun but it's the vision of others in front of you that is now difficult and dangerous. TO YOU. and to themselves.
I have seen them waiting in their cars or vans etc. at nearside junctions and trying to look towards me and towards the low sun through dirty side windows and with no sun glasses on and no sun visor turned to their right and therefore they appear to be having great difficulty in seeing anything including me. Do they not know that that sun visor can be moved from its position to their right and then it will cover the side window? If they only would wind down that window and turned their sun visor over to be above that window opening, thus protecting their eyes for the direct effect of the sun they and I would be a lot safer. But they are either ignorant or just too lazy to do those two things and collisions happen as a consequence.
At 16.00 mins we turn and face into the sunlight and what happens? the screen is dirty and scratched and due to that we temporarily see less of the road scene ahead. First we should replace dirty and scratches screens an secondly we should be able to see aver them, and not only through them. If it had been raining and the screen would also be wet and thus our forward vision would be considerably reduced and that reduces our safety and the safety of others.
Very true Bob, it’s strange what you say when chatting generally without clarification. As soon as I read your comment I thought, yes , and how many times have I said that to people myself!! Thank you for raising it 👍
Come on Bob. You’re battering me tonight! I see over my screen, my camera is much lower than my eyes. I always replace visors, but a well used ex police bmw screen is not cheap to replace.
At 18.07 its a narrow single track road and look we are riding with the sun directly behind us as we are casting a long shadow., Would any driver coming towards us and looking directly at the sun see us on that narrow road? I think not. We should be very careful here and slow down quite a bit to allow for that potential danger.
I’m in the Uk and I’ve noticed nowadays that people in general have no awareness of other road users at all. Training needs to be a lot better than it is. Judging stopping distances seems to have gone out of the window. It’s got so bad now, I EXPECT other drivers to pull out in front of me - even when they are sitting behind ‘give way’ markings on the road. Also, where I live, I also expect people to come round a blind corner on MY side of the road and I move over in anticipation.
I found this very interesting and helpful
Observation is the absolute key to improvement, it's useful as well to talk a commentary to yourself as you ride, because if you can keep up a coherent stream of commentary, then you must be observing and noting pretty much everything as you progress. It's a shame that the IAM advanced test doesn't include a requirement for commentary for the benefit of the examiner, he would get a proper understanding of how a candidate observed if it were.
Just to add if I may.
You should have your own television program on "Advance Motorcycling Techniques" or at least be featured on the Motorbike show for example! The motorcycle industry needs an ambassador when it comes to motorcycle safety and best practices.
don't forget to read all the road signs and take in the information and be prepared to act on it i have been on metropolitan police bike safe and dsa rider coarse and your never to old to learn something new ride safe people
Have you ever sat as a passenger in a car, and tried to count the number of road-signs that you pass on a journey? The amount of information that the driver is expected to process ... and either discard or act upon ... is phenomenal. And, they impinge upon your eyes, and are gone so quickly. It really is quite remarkable that the brain can handle all that information; and all the while performing the mundane tasks associated with gears and clutches and other traffic.
You have to develop a system for prioritizing the information, and deciding which bits should be ignored.
But nowadays, it's the 'cameras' which tend to occupy an unhealthy amount of your mental capacity. The more time I spend fretting about potential speeding fines, the less time I can devote to avoiding collisions. Maybe. Perhaps that is something to speculate upon ... the idea that the over-enthusiastic policing of speed, MIGHT contribute to other undesirable outcomes.
And I'm convinced that some Local Authorities have a policy of 'manufacturing' uncertainty as to the speed limits on certain sections of road.
I always enjoy the video content, different ideas to consider. We get to question is it how i would ride. I have been driving for over 40 years and obtained my full motorbike licence over 20. years ago. I have to think the approach to the roundabout approx 11 odd minutes in could be different. Surely you should be in lane one as you are going straight taking the second exit, you had time and space after you pass the fiat 500, just an observation i felt that was a safer route
@darylrook9641 thanks for your comment here. I hear what you say. I presume you mean the roundabout at 11:46? If so, either a lane 1 or lane 2 approach would be ok. Where a dual carriageway is involved with 2 in 2 out its optional; both have their advantages and risks.
A usual advantage with lane 2 is that it can be quicker, unless there are vehicles turning right. It will also keep you further away from vehicles entering, such as the overkeen silver car. One could argue that it might not have pulled out so promptly had I been in lane 1? But it might, so conjecture.
A disadvantage of lane 2 to 2 is a vehicle alongside in lane 1 might turn right in front of you, hence why I never get alongside anything at the critical point, always being sufficiently ahead or waiting to confirm the exit ahead.
Lane 1 to go ahead is seen as a "default" position to go ahead, certainly on a non dual carriageway roundabout. Disadvantage could be that you are closer to waiting traffic to the left and progress may be slower.
The alternative would be a straight line with no lane discipline, great for progress but needs to be in the absence of other vehicles for safety.
So pros and cons for both, as long as awareness is good and another road user is not adversely affected, its down to the individual rides assessment. All the best
@@MotorcyclePWR The car in front of you when discussing the subject of tunnel vision was in lane 2 and went straight ahead (2nd Exit) Seem ok to me (IMHO)
That car pulling out at 11:53 presented a "potential" hazard/threat so being in lane 2 looked to be safest and best option.
As to whether the car at 11:53 would have still pulled out if you were in the inside lane, we will never know.
I find the subject of "advanced motorcycling training" extremely interesting.
I speak as a "Back to Biker" this year having not ridden for many years having passed my test in the 80's
Good stuff, welcome back to biking. I hope you enjoy the biking and researching advanced techniques. All the best
I'm very interested
At 20.00 mins a good stretch of road and so slowing to view the scenery. But what speed was he doing? Well the telegraph poles are situated approximately some 60 metres apart and it took him approx. 4 seconds between them. So his bike was doing about 15 metres per sec which roughly relates to 45 ft. per sec. which gives us an approx. speed of about 30 mph. If it took him just 3 secs. to move the distance of the telegraph poles then his speed would then be about 40 mph and if it took him just 2 seconds between poles he would be doing about 60 mph.
At 60 mph stopping distance would be some 240 ft according to the H.C. and the distance between two telegraph poles would be some 190/200 ft approx. However Stopping distance at 50 mph would be some 175 ft. and at 40 mph it would be half of the 60 mph one at only some 120 ft. Make of that what you will. Does it make you think. Maybe travel a little slower perhaps, or maybe not. Your choice.
I use emergency braking to slow the bike enough so that I can safely do something else. Stopping is rarely it's first objective.
100% agree
I would love to learn more with an instructor. I can see the real benefits. Sadly though while we have a legal responsibility to buy insurance there is no legal responsibility for that to be affordable and so the money I'd like to save toward extra teaching just gets paid to the shareholders of companies I haven't called on in decades. Insurance is a monopoly and the providers know that. Government has admitted they are now harming the UK economy and have asked for a meeting. Whoopee. Meanwhile ministers also described the FCA as "Incompetent at best, dishonest at worst" . So my money is taken by insurance companies while I just practice by myself and watch channels like this for tips.
The government needs to act.
yes a lot of truth here I feel. I always feel that "risk" can be written up any way you wish when you are an insurance underwriter. Instructors are high risk, advanced riders are high risk, inexperienced riders are high risk, high mileage riders are as well as occasional ones! But no credit for being a safe, diligent, competent and respectful road user.
As usual, we are paying for everyone elses poor road use and attitude.
How many Rt s have you ? Lol
I have 2, one for rough weather. The other for better days!
The best tip I can give this bloke is to NOT ride in the center of his lane where all the nails and debris build up !
What bloke? PWR? It’s a bit of a sweeping statement to say that’s where ALL the debris is. It can be anywhere and road positioning depends a lot more on other factors. I think all us experienced bikers know there is crap all over the road but I don’t see any constant middle lane positioning. Perhaps you need to think more flexibly?
Thank you for the advice. I don’t ride in any given position by default and after 40 years are well aware of the potential problems by using x position. I make conscious decisions as to where I position and if I was having weekly punctures I would need to question what I was doing! We used to be told to not ride in the centre because of sump oil, that was in the days of older cars, modern cars don’t leak oil like the old days but diesel tanks that overflow or leak are often more to the off centre. Sadly there is no one cure all road position. But I will use the centre of my lane where appropriate, it’s also an area less worn by vehicle tyres and containing potentially less rubber deposits, therefore affording more grip.
@@MotorcyclePWR I totally agree with your statements particularly the last paragraph about there being more available grip on the sump line as its not worn down by car tyres continually running over it. The added benefit is on a wet road it drains better, is dryer and suffers less water remaining on it and so its braking distance is better than the other positions that are completely wet and, as said are full of rubber with less grip. So braking is improved on the sump line
Diesel spills usually are found on bends, roundabouts and outside petrol stations. Some years ago there was a greater problem than they is now as they now have devices fitted to newer vehicle that prevent such spills from happening but some still do.
About riding in the 1 or 3 position, they say that on can benefit on a wet road from riding behind another vehicle as their car tyres disturb and disperse the water on the road and thus make it less wet. [ presuming safer ] That said my argument against that is that if you are close enough to benefit from such then to my mind you are too close and therefore you should pull back to a safer stopping position as per the H. C. and that would make you safer than relying on a less wet road with less grip and perhaps tailgating to boot.