The American's must understand that none of these Acts were dictated by the King, but came from Parliament. Britain thought it was only fair that the Colonists pay towards the costs of the war against France, that had kept the French from taking over their colonies. They were also protecting them from the natives, who fought back against encroachment upon their lands, which had been guaranteed to them by solemn treaties. It was largely the landed class in America who resented the rule of Britain. The ordinary citizen were not major tax payers. The Colonists were fortunate that, having accepted the help of the French, that they were not overtaken by them. I don't suppose they would have been happy to be ruled by a strict Catholic Despotic Kingdom, any more than they were under a brother English Protestant one. The British did extremely well, given all the difficulties they had to deal with, not only in America, but elsewhere at the same time. I wonder. do the American feel more free than the Canadians, or Australians, or New Zealanders, all of whom never felt the need to rebel against Britain?
As a brit and a fan of your channel. I can honestly say I didn't even realise that it was American Independence. For Americans it's a day of celebration but for us Brits its just a normal Thursday. I don't know if a lot of Americans understand that America getting their Independence from us is just one of many countries that managed to get independence. Most Brits shrug their shoulders and carry on. No offence meant, love your videos.👍
The fact you didn't realise the importance of the date, demonstrates how utterly ignorant of history you are. I'm also a Brit btw, and the average understanding of history in this nation is truly pathetic.
I read a thick book on the war from the British perspective. The generals of the British Army and the admirals of the Royal Navy despised each other. They argued over who was the superior arm of the military. The video says on Nov 25th the last of the British troops departed from New York. The book I read stated that 10,000+ British and German soldiers decided to stay in the US. During the years of holding New York and other cities some had married American women and had families. Others wanted to seek their fortune in the new land. It also explained that when the Boston Tea Party took place, not because the tea on the ships was to be taxed, but because it was the only tea exempt from the tax. The tea was on ships from the British East India company. It was surplus tea to be dumped onto the American market. And when the Sugar Tax had been applied, sugar was imported untaxed from the French islands in the Caribbean. In those days there was no Income Tax. That was introduced during the Napoleonic Wars. Taxes were raised from the landed gentry or custom duties on imported goods. More custom taxes were being raised from the Caribbean and Indian colonies than from the North American colonies. So the military focus was on the Caribbean. The merchants in Britain didn't care whether the US was independent or not. They just wanted to make money so pressured the government to bring the war to an end. The ironic thing is that the US president has more powers in the hand of a single person than a British monarch ever had.
Great reaction as always. There is a vid on how the american revolution is taught in the UK if your interested by the "Today I found out" channel. It doesn't take that much of a part in the curriculum apparently
Can you, EB, elucidate what the previous agreements were concerning Tax in the Colonies? The Brits saw Taxing the colonials as only fair for Brits from the UK protecting them from invaders etc. The Colonies had cost free soldiers, and the US ever since made it common to go round the globe, ransacking countries and looting them when possible, asset stripping or via war. Now the US tax payer actually pays for this themselves, which is quite a turnaround.
Not gonna comment on this reaction specifically, because I have waaay too much to say about it, but I would just like to compliment you on your salty southern wisdom, open mind and commitment to continual self-education. You embody everything that's the opposite of what many Europeans dislike about America, and deserve all your subscribers. Peace and love from the UK. ❤
For me as an almost fifty year old Scottish person. It was a general overview of the creation of the US that was taught in Primary 7 (so when I was 11/12 years old) and we learned a little about the Pilgrims going out there, that there was a war for the US to gain independence and that the US flag has one star for each state on it and that there is one stripe for each of the original thirteen colonies…and maybe a few other points but it wasn’t any sort of major in-depth lesson plan. It’s always seemed more of a ‘so the US was once a UK colony, oh right. Cool’ sort of situation that felt it has no relevance whatsoever on our lives. Especially as it was all so long before any family member that we knew personally, had ever existed and there had been so many British colonies in our parents and grandparents lifetimes…for people of my sort of age group, we still had the colony of Hong Kong well into the nineties. I also think that many in the US don’t really realise that the formation of the UK as a political union only started really in 1707, so just 69 years before the Declaration of Independence by the US but didn’t settle into its current form until the 1921 when Ireland gained its independence. So for me personally, half my grandparents were born into a different UK configuration that the other half and all subsequent generations were. Meaning that the UK is actually a much younger country (when the political union is seen as a singular country) than the US…even if the countries that make it each have very long histories. I suppose what I’m trying to say is, that’s it’s a topic that’s taught but not to any great extent (unless you choose it as the topic for one of your history projects, where it’s up to you personally how much of a deep dive you do) and was a colony for such a short time in the grand scheme of the history of our individual countries, that it almost feels as though the only true lasting legacy of the US being a former colony is that it gave us both potatoes and tobacco.
imagine if George III had said "we can't raise taxes so we can't afford to protect the American colonies". it wouldn't have been a fun ride for those colonists
@@p12jacob Not really. July 4th is barely mentioned in the UK. American independence was an inevitability, be it through war or diplomacy, it was always going to happen eventually.
@@TheEclecticBeard As a meme term, copium is a satirical term used by 'online personalities' on platforms like Twitch and Reddit. It's an amalgamation of two terms: 'cope' and 'opium', and it's a joke term used to describe a fictional drug that one consumes after suffering a loss, defeat, or disappointment.
As an Englishman, the American Revolution almost seems as if we slipped into an alternate reality somewhere, theres many chances where the British forces would've and perhaps of should've won if not for little random occasions of chance, such as poor weather preventing full encirclement in Manhattan, or King George lacking ability to swallow his cud, accept the loss of face, and allowing the colonies their representation, which has I been around at the time, would've supported; surely if their one of our colonies, under the Magna Carta, they should get given representation in some form? I believe this was entirely subject to George VIII's and probably more the government's hubris And on a personal level, the American Revolutionary War is a painful subject for my family, my partner is from your own Alabama, and according to somewhat scant records of the time, they set sail from Liverpool (where my direct ancestors incidentally held a lot of power at the time, they were the Lords of Sefton and I'm from nearby, closer to Manchester, but a truly direct descendent nonetheless) and landed in Carolina sometime in the 1750s and started farming cotton and tobacco, they were already merchants in Liverpool or the surrounding area prior to crossing the Atlantic Then there's a realpossibility my ancestors, as nobles and highly experienced military commanders and soldiers partook in the war themselves, and I only hope they spilt none of my kins blood, which is a horrific thought and one i never enjoy dwelling on My personal opinion on The American Revolutionary war is things in the 1770s never should've gotten to such a head There were a dozen opportunities where either said 'right we'll call things off now, now's your chance to cut your losses, accept our terms ' and the other side was essentially too bloody stubborn to say 'yeah, what's the point in killing our own brothers let's work through this diplomatically' The only force I truly posses any level of hatred and disdain towards in this conflict is the french, seemingly acting as little more than jealous, bitter little interlopers, seeking to turn brother against brother for their own gain This is how I see Americans, Canadians, Australians and Kiwis - all brothers, brothers in arms, us against the real enemies in this world..we've got to work together, no matter what the specifics and naysayers say, at far more than a mere base level, our countries build the forefront of liberty in this world, no one does things quite the way we do collectively, everyone wants to come to us - and we've got issues, oh we got issues, bloody hell, but even then, we dont require any walls..
The letter to king George hadn’t reached London when the colonists started the rebellion and that was the idea of some of your less loyal founding fathers who knew how long it would take and stirred up resentment and rebellion with newsletters.
Sadly the War of Independence was not taught in schools in the UK in my day. In my childhood there were tv programs that covered it and if you were interested in the history of warfare, which a lot of youngsters were, there were plenty of books that covered it at least in part. I don't think it was because of any embarresment or sensitivity. Generally history lessons started with the Egyptians, then covered Roman Britain, the Saxons, the Vikings, the Normans, the Plantaganets, the Tudors and Elizabethans, the Georgians, the Industrial Revolution and the Victorians. Then it stopped as there was no more time left at school unless you went on to do 'A' Levels, so my knowledge of for instance the wider Roman Empire, the Greeks, the many European Wars, the War of the Roses, the English Civil War, the American War of Indipendence, the Napoleonic Wars, Britain in India, and the American Civil War were all self taught through my interest in model making, war gaming and from the UK tv's excellent history programs.
Being told by an American who has no idea of the British parliamentary system, and less than half of the population of America wanted independence or a war with Britain and to continue having a monarch, and the way the American government works today and the carcass you have in charge now I can understand why Americans were worried about a split with Britain, Washington forced Americans to serve who didn’t want to and if you didn’t have the help of the French and Spanish, Washington a failed British officer would of been hung for treason, Washington was responsible for the American Indian war or what we call the the 7 years war, more of a pen pushing arranger of troops then a fighting General, and I find it hard calling him a General because he never earned his commission just knew the right people, swapped one royal family for another
Most of us Brits know as much about the war of independence as Americans do about Bonfire night. Neither nation cares. If we celebrated this then how many more countries independence would we have to celebrate. We really don't care and a lot of Americans don't even know that much about it. Great channel.
I think the British perspective is... "Well, that was a thing that happened that Americans celebrate...". ... I think the only thing to do with the US that we put much focus on was Harriet Tubman and the Underground Railroad and the transatlantic slave trade or whatever... This was in the 90s though, I'm not sure what they teach now... We briefly covered the US in regards to multiple global events, but a lot is glossed over... I don't know...
That was an interesting documentary. I wonder what America and the world would be like if we had won. I agree with you in regards to the narrator. Monotonous tone, likely AI.
Britain gave America its independence. this was due to the French invasion of Jersey in the Channel Islands (Battle of Jersey 1781). the French, Spanish and Portuguese was also attacking the Royal Navy at this time, so Britain returned its military on fighting its old rivals. Congratulations on your independence America. how is it working out for you? can you remind me how much you pay for medical care ... asking for a friend.
Due to the dispute with Spain over Gibraltar and it's still 17:35 continuing. Weakened by the British troops because of the American War of Independence.The Gibraltarians stockpiled the cave with food water and weapons like cannons. The French and the Spanish besieged Gibraltar. They withstood the contingency for four years until they were rescued by the British troops.
The colonies have favourable terms in trade and taxation dating from their foundation. By 1776 they were wealthy and well established and judged able to bear a share of the tax burden. Returning MPs to the London parliament would hardly have been practical when any message back to the US would have taken a six week round trip.
Most English people supported the US Independence...(I'm from the US but most Brits today would not support the US system of government). I grew up in the 80s...in the US. I moved to England a decade ago and it is fair to say no-one in England cares about the US (any more than the US cares about Britain I guess). History is interesting. The impact of people voting was negligible. The average working man could not vote in either the US or England until the very late 1800's...women could vote shortly after. It changed only the illusion of freedom. With the "left" and the "right" wing making their claims to hundreds of thousands of people and their opinions, making Laws and judgements about segregation, integration and society. Which does lead to the very difficult question: What does the US stand for?
The simple reality is that Britain losing the North American colonies was a good thing. Trying to hang on to that landmass would have been impossible. The British Empire would have fallen well before it did if we had tried to hold on to the American colonies. I would argue the mistake was expending massive resources trying to hold it instead of negotiating a settlement and freeing up our resources to deal with issues elsewhere.
I completely agree with your analysis of the war of independence but you're completely wrong about the war of 1812. You've been fed historic propaganda I'm afraid. The war of 1812 was a war of conquest with America invading (British) Canada. The excuse given by America was that the British took American sailors was a red flag operation. The British did press-gang British sailors masquerading as US citizens, but even at the time Americans knew this wasn't true. They were masquerading as Americans to get out of service. America thought it could take Canadian lands and people into the States. America did this while the British were busy saving Europe from Napoleonic forces. Don't believe me, check it out for yourself. By the way plans were being made by America during WW2 to invade Canada after the war, because America wanted to force Britain to give up the World Currency, the Pound Sterling 💷 to become the Dollar 💵. In the end Britain gave up the World Currency to the US because Britain was skint after the war, and America gave Britain loans for giving up of World Currency. So the plans to attack Canada were shelved. The first time in history hegemony has changed without warfare.
Ths truth is, it was best for everyone that America broke free. The American colonies were ready to move on and Britain needed to focus on war with France, not micromanaging a country quite capable of running its own affairs. George III handled it badly. It was about his ego, not about necessity. We had no need to keep hold of the colonies.
Listening to talks by the austin school lectures, the deal we made with America for leaving paid for Britain to invade and take over india. Britain's clever thinking of how to always get something from every situation. Well at least during our time of climbing the empire table.
At the same time Britain was fighting all of the other world powers so was a bit stretched. Kind of like US taking on Russia, China, EU, India at the same time today.
The American colonies at the time were not as valuable as Gibraltar or the West Indies, Britain pretty much just moved on and went East after. The one thing that happened because of French support was their own bankruptcy and revolution.
Had the British won the War of Independence would it have become another penal colony like Australia-80% undeveloped . The French were successful antagonists but were heavily defeated in Europe and Canada.
I always wonder why you (the USA and not you personally) villify KG3, considering we're a Constitutional Monarchy and Parliment not the King, was running the "show".
Enjoy your videos mate. It always pisses me off the fact that the USA just didn't want to help pay for a war that protected them, especially what happened after the war of independence when they sold off indian lands that they promised they wouldn't after thwy found themselves in a similar position. The same happened during/after WW2, we gave them all our nuclear research in trade to help each other and they gave us nothing back. I believe we ended up working on it with the french (could be wrong there though)
It didn't make sense for the British to refuse representation in parliament they could of made so much more money to have america on thier side . Who knows when the king realised how much america would end up earning maybe he would of moved there 😅
I highly doubt Britain would've honoured the treaties forever, overtime they would've wanted to keep expanding further westward. Maybe North America would've become a super-colony merging Canada & America together like how they did with the Indian subcontinent. Or maybe they would've carve up the land like they did in Africa & the Middle East and British North America would've had some weirdly drawn colonial borders.
There's more to this, than meets the eye, or made public! Your 'win', involved money changing hands, and a few favours being done, regarding the future.
The exact same sociopaths that run our puppet democracy at the moment, there hasn't been a British Government that worked for the British people for almost three decades. The odd true politician that tries is quickly ostracised by their 'colleagues' or a hit piece via the MSM, then moved off the board. Woke didn't just happen, its a direct attack on all Western Democratic countries and if people in the Anglosphere don't stop watching mainstream media, we've had it.
Even if we had defeated the insurrection in 1776, I wonder how committed we’d have been going forward given our interests in India. Put bluntly India was potentially more profitable. I think as long as we kept the French out of N. America, we’d probably have left you to your own devices?
They never go over the ",,,without representation" part. I mean if parliment can tax you and not the people who can vote them out... is all of you tube American heters?
50 years after these events no British working class men had the vote. One hundred years later only half of us could vote. It wasn't until 1918 that all men over the age of 21 were eligible to vote. So this no taxation without representation isn't really understood by the majority of those who chant it. The revolutionary war was in large part a civil war with those Americans on the losing side losing all their property and fleeing North to Canada. There was also a large element that wanted to expand Westward which would have broken treaties the British Had with the Indian Nations...........that's why the Indians were in support of the British against the French and Spanish. After the British got kicked out, expansion West started almost immediately, apart from invading Canada a couple of times but that didn't go too well.
The British people was promised a new land to call their own with politicaland religiousfreedom, parliament saw money to tax and trade to steal,the monarch let it happen although they sympathise with the colony and the Americans but did nothing then was embarrassed so acted aggressive and then history was written
The American's must understand that none of these Acts were dictated by the King, but came from Parliament. Britain thought it was only fair that the Colonists pay towards the costs of the war against France, that had kept the French from taking over their colonies. They were also protecting them from the natives, who fought back against encroachment upon their lands, which had been guaranteed to them by solemn treaties. It was largely the landed class in America who resented the rule of Britain. The ordinary citizen were not major tax payers. The Colonists were fortunate that, having accepted the help of the French, that they were not overtaken by them. I don't suppose they would have been happy to be ruled by a strict Catholic Despotic Kingdom, any more than they were under a brother English Protestant one. The British did extremely well, given all the difficulties they had to deal with, not only in America, but elsewhere at the same time.
I wonder. do the American feel more free than the Canadians, or Australians, or New Zealanders, all of whom never felt the need to rebel against Britain?
As a brit and a fan of your channel. I can honestly say I didn't even realise that it was American Independence. For Americans it's a day of celebration but for us Brits its just a normal Thursday. I don't know if a lot of Americans understand that America getting their Independence from us is just one of many countries that managed to get independence. Most Brits shrug their shoulders and carry on. No offence meant, love your videos.👍
America is just one of 60+ countries
Yeah, it's not anything special for y'all and why would it be
The fact you didn't realise the importance of the date, demonstrates how utterly ignorant of history you are. I'm also a Brit btw, and the average understanding of history in this nation is truly pathetic.
Well it's wasn't quite a normal Thursday this year 😂
I read a thick book on the war from the British perspective. The generals of the British Army and the admirals of the Royal Navy despised each other. They argued over who was the superior arm of the military. The video says on Nov 25th the last of the British troops departed from New York. The book I read stated that 10,000+ British and German soldiers decided to stay in the US. During the years of holding New York and other cities some had married American women and had families. Others wanted to seek their fortune in the new land. It also explained that when the Boston Tea Party took place, not because the tea on the ships was to be taxed, but because it was the only tea exempt from the tax. The tea was on ships from the British East India company. It was surplus tea to be dumped onto the American market. And when the Sugar Tax had been applied, sugar was imported untaxed from the French islands in the Caribbean. In those days there was no Income Tax. That was introduced during the Napoleonic Wars. Taxes were raised from the landed gentry or custom duties on imported goods. More custom taxes were being raised from the Caribbean and Indian colonies than from the North American colonies. So the military focus was on the Caribbean. The merchants in Britain didn't care whether the US was independent or not. They just wanted to make money so pressured the government to bring the war to an end. The ironic thing is that the US president has more powers in the hand of a single person than a British monarch ever had.
Great reaction as always. There is a vid on how the american revolution is taught in the UK if your interested by the "Today I found out" channel. It doesn't take that much of a part in the curriculum apparently
Can you, EB, elucidate what the previous agreements were concerning Tax in the Colonies? The Brits saw Taxing the colonials as only fair for Brits from the UK protecting them from invaders etc. The Colonies had cost free soldiers, and the US ever since made it common to go round the globe, ransacking countries and looting them when possible, asset stripping or via war. Now the US tax payer actually pays for this themselves, which is quite a turnaround.
Not gonna comment on this reaction specifically, because I have waaay too much to say about it, but I would just like to compliment you on your salty southern wisdom, open mind and commitment to continual self-education. You embody everything that's the opposite of what many Europeans dislike about America, and deserve all your subscribers. Peace and love from the UK. ❤
For me as an almost fifty year old Scottish person. It was a general overview of the creation of the US that was taught in Primary 7 (so when I was 11/12 years old) and we learned a little about the Pilgrims going out there, that there was a war for the US to gain independence and that the US flag has one star for each state on it and that there is one stripe for each of the original thirteen colonies…and maybe a few other points but it wasn’t any sort of major in-depth lesson plan.
It’s always seemed more of a ‘so the US was once a UK colony, oh right. Cool’ sort of situation that felt it has no relevance whatsoever on our lives. Especially as it was all so long before any family member that we knew personally, had ever existed and there had been so many British colonies in our parents and grandparents lifetimes…for people of my sort of age group, we still had the colony of Hong Kong well into the nineties.
I also think that many in the US don’t really realise that the formation of the UK as a political union only started really in 1707, so just 69 years before the Declaration of Independence by the US but didn’t settle into its current form until the 1921 when Ireland gained its independence. So for me personally, half my grandparents were born into a different UK configuration that the other half and all subsequent generations were. Meaning that the UK is actually a much younger country (when the political union is seen as a singular country) than the US…even if the countries that make it each have very long histories.
I suppose what I’m trying to say is, that’s it’s a topic that’s taught but not to any great extent (unless you choose it as the topic for one of your history projects, where it’s up to you personally how much of a deep dive you do) and was a colony for such a short time in the grand scheme of the history of our individual countries, that it almost feels as though the only true lasting legacy of the US being a former colony is that it gave us both potatoes and tobacco.
The French were the main reason for all of this!
Beard for President 2024.
I said it on live stream, and I stand by that.
imagine if George III had said "we can't raise taxes so we can't afford to protect the American colonies".
it wouldn't have been a fun ride for those colonists
No biggie as far as the Brits were concerned.
Copium
@@p12jacob Bollocks
Copium? Of or for what exactly?
@@p12jacob Not really. July 4th is barely mentioned in the UK. American independence was an inevitability, be it through war or diplomacy, it was always going to happen eventually.
@@TheEclecticBeard As a meme term, copium is a satirical term used by 'online personalities' on platforms like Twitch and Reddit. It's an amalgamation of two terms: 'cope' and 'opium', and it's a joke term used to describe a fictional drug that one consumes after suffering a loss, defeat, or disappointment.
Without the French, the colonies in America would be greater Canada, no shame in that and better people.
As an Englishman, the American Revolution almost seems as if we slipped into an alternate reality somewhere, theres many chances where the British forces would've and perhaps of should've won if not for little random occasions of chance, such as poor weather preventing full encirclement in Manhattan, or King George lacking ability to swallow his cud, accept the loss of face, and allowing the colonies their representation, which has I been around at the time, would've supported; surely if their one of our colonies, under the Magna Carta, they should get given representation in some form? I believe this was entirely subject to George VIII's and probably more the government's hubris
And on a personal level, the American Revolutionary War is a painful subject for my family, my partner is from your own Alabama, and according to somewhat scant records of the time, they set sail from Liverpool (where my direct ancestors incidentally held a lot of power at the time, they were the Lords of Sefton and I'm from nearby, closer to Manchester, but a truly direct descendent nonetheless) and landed in Carolina sometime in the 1750s and started farming cotton and tobacco, they were already merchants in Liverpool or the surrounding area prior to crossing the Atlantic
Then there's a realpossibility my ancestors, as nobles and highly experienced military commanders and soldiers partook in the war themselves, and I only hope they spilt none of my kins blood, which is a horrific thought and one i never enjoy dwelling on
My personal opinion on The American Revolutionary war is things in the 1770s never should've gotten to such a head
There were a dozen opportunities where either said 'right we'll call things off now, now's your chance to cut your losses, accept our terms ' and the other side was essentially too bloody stubborn to say 'yeah, what's the point in killing our own brothers let's work through this diplomatically'
The only force I truly posses any level of hatred and disdain towards in this conflict is the french, seemingly acting as little more than jealous, bitter little interlopers, seeking to turn brother against brother for their own gain
This is how I see Americans, Canadians, Australians and Kiwis - all brothers, brothers in arms, us against the real enemies in this world..we've got to work together, no matter what the specifics and naysayers say, at far more than a mere base level, our countries build the forefront of liberty in this world, no one does things quite the way we do collectively, everyone wants to come to us - and we've got issues, oh we got issues, bloody hell, but even then, we dont require any walls..
The letter to king George hadn’t reached London when the colonists started the rebellion and that was the idea of some of your less loyal founding fathers who knew how long it would take and stirred up resentment and rebellion with newsletters.
I recommend the American Revolution video on the Oversimplified channel, it's really funny and informative.
The full channel is for that matter.
Sadly the War of Independence was not taught in schools in the UK in my day. In my childhood there were tv programs that covered it and if you were interested in the history of warfare, which a lot of youngsters were, there were plenty of books that covered it at least in part. I don't think it was because of any embarresment or sensitivity. Generally history lessons started with the Egyptians, then covered Roman Britain, the Saxons, the Vikings, the Normans, the Plantaganets, the Tudors and Elizabethans, the Georgians, the Industrial Revolution and the Victorians. Then it stopped as there was no more time left at school unless you went on to do 'A' Levels, so my knowledge of for instance the wider Roman Empire, the Greeks, the many European Wars, the War of the Roses, the English Civil War, the American War of Indipendence, the Napoleonic Wars, Britain in India, and the American Civil War were all self taught through my interest in model making, war gaming and from the UK tv's excellent history programs.
Being told by an American who has no idea of the British parliamentary system, and less than half of the population of America wanted independence or a war with Britain and to continue having a monarch, and the way the American government works today and the carcass you have in charge now I can understand why Americans were worried about a split with Britain, Washington forced Americans to serve who didn’t want to and if you didn’t have the help of the French and Spanish, Washington a failed British officer would of been hung for treason, Washington was responsible for the American Indian war or what we call the the 7 years war, more of a pen pushing arranger of troops then a fighting General, and I find it hard calling him a General because he never earned his commission just knew the right people, swapped one royal family for another
The voice over guy is real.
The population of the US in 1776 is estimated to be 2.5 million. The population of Britain is estimated to be 8 million.
British Election Day today. Very big change of government😮
Most of us Brits know as much about the war of independence as Americans do about Bonfire night. Neither nation cares. If we celebrated this then how many more countries independence would we have to celebrate. We really don't care and a lot of Americans don't even know that much about it.
Great channel.
I think the British perspective is... "Well, that was a thing that happened that Americans celebrate...".
... I think the only thing to do with the US that we put much focus on was Harriet Tubman and the Underground Railroad and the transatlantic slave trade or whatever... This was in the 90s though, I'm not sure what they teach now... We briefly covered the US in regards to multiple global events, but a lot is glossed over... I don't know...
That was an interesting documentary. I wonder what America and the world would be like if we had won. I agree with you in regards to the narrator. Monotonous tone, likely AI.
Happy Independence Day, fella....😊😊😊
Britain gave America its independence. this was due to the French invasion of Jersey in the Channel Islands (Battle of Jersey 1781). the French, Spanish and Portuguese was also attacking the Royal Navy at this time, so Britain returned its military on fighting its old rivals.
Congratulations on your independence America. how is it working out for you? can you remind me how much you pay for medical care ... asking for a friend.
Due to the dispute with Spain over Gibraltar and it's still 17:35 continuing. Weakened by the British troops because of the American War of Independence.The Gibraltarians stockpiled the cave with food water and weapons like cannons. The French and the Spanish besieged Gibraltar. They withstood the contingency for four years until they were rescued by the British troops.
The colonies have favourable terms in trade and taxation dating from their foundation. By 1776 they were wealthy and well established and judged able to bear a share of the tax burden.
Returning MPs to the London parliament would hardly have been practical when any message back to the US would have taken a six week round trip.
I dont know if you have already but i suggest doing a reaction video to "the fast show" uk. (94-98)
Most English people supported the US Independence...(I'm from the US but most Brits today would not support the US system of government).
I grew up in the 80s...in the US. I moved to England a decade ago and it is fair to say no-one in England cares about the US (any more than the US cares about Britain I guess).
History is interesting. The impact of people voting was negligible.
The average working man could not vote in either the US or England until the very late 1800's...women could vote shortly after. It changed only the illusion of freedom. With the "left" and the "right" wing making their claims to hundreds of thousands of people and their opinions, making Laws and judgements about segregation, integration and society.
Which does lead to the very difficult question: What does the US stand for?
The simple reality is that Britain losing the North American colonies was a good thing. Trying to hang on to that landmass would have been impossible. The British Empire would have fallen well before it did if we had tried to hold on to the American colonies. I would argue the mistake was expending massive resources trying to hold it instead of negotiating a settlement and freeing up our resources to deal with issues elsewhere.
I completely agree with your analysis of the war of independence but you're completely wrong about the war of 1812. You've been fed historic propaganda I'm afraid. The war of 1812 was a war of conquest with America invading (British) Canada. The excuse given by America was that the British took American sailors was a red flag operation. The British did press-gang British sailors masquerading as US citizens, but even at the time Americans knew this wasn't true. They were masquerading as Americans to get out of service. America thought it could take Canadian lands and people into the States. America did this while the British were busy saving Europe from Napoleonic forces. Don't believe me, check it out for yourself. By the way plans were being made by America during WW2 to invade Canada after the war, because America wanted to force Britain to give up the World Currency, the Pound Sterling 💷 to become the Dollar 💵. In the end Britain gave up the World Currency to the US because Britain was skint after the war, and America gave Britain loans for giving up of World Currency. So the plans to attack Canada were shelved. The first time in history hegemony has changed without warfare.
The Rothchild’s were calling in those loans! 😂
Ths truth is, it was best for everyone that America broke free. The American colonies were ready to move on and Britain needed to focus on war with France, not micromanaging a country quite capable of running its own affairs. George III handled it badly. It was about his ego, not about necessity. We had no need to keep hold of the colonies.
Listening to talks by the austin school lectures, the deal we made with America for leaving paid for Britain to invade and take over india. Britain's clever thinking of how to always get something from every situation. Well at least during our time of climbing the empire table.
At the same time Britain was fighting all of the other world powers so was a bit stretched. Kind of like US taking on Russia, China, EU, India at the same time today.
The American colonies at the time were not as valuable as Gibraltar or the West Indies, Britain pretty much just moved on and went East after. The one thing that happened because of French support was their own bankruptcy and revolution.
13:00 didnt hear anything, dont worry :D
Had the British won the War of Independence would it have become another penal colony like Australia-80% undeveloped . The French were successful antagonists but were heavily defeated in Europe and Canada.
I always wonder why you (the USA and not you personally) villify KG3, considering we're a Constitutional Monarchy and Parliment not the King, was running the "show".
Not strictly speaking true. Parliament had and still has, much less authority than ths King.
@@helenwood8482that’s absolutely wrong. The original comment is right.
Ridiculous to say that the monarch has more power than parliament.
Enjoy your videos mate. It always pisses me off the fact that the USA just didn't want to help pay for a war that protected them, especially what happened after the war of independence when they sold off indian lands that they promised they wouldn't after thwy found themselves in a similar position. The same happened during/after WW2, we gave them all our nuclear research in trade to help each other and they gave us nothing back. I believe we ended up working on it with the french (could be wrong there though)
French & Spanish dont forget
"We'll be back......" 🇬🇧
It didn't make sense for the British to refuse representation in parliament they could of made so much more money to have america on thier side . Who knows when the king realised how much america would end up earning maybe he would of moved there 😅
I do wonder how different North America would be if the colonies hadn't rebelled and the treaties with the First Nations had been honoured.
I highly doubt Britain would've honoured the treaties forever, overtime they would've wanted to keep expanding further westward.
Maybe North America would've become a super-colony merging Canada & America together like how they did with the Indian subcontinent.
Or maybe they would've carve up the land like they did in Africa & the Middle East and British North America would've had some weirdly drawn colonial borders.
There's more to this, than meets the eye, or made public! Your 'win', involved money changing hands, and a few favours being done, regarding the future.
It’s a English guy doing the commentary.
The monarchy still owns America
No...thats the way he talks. lol
Now, of course, the US tax payer has a representative in Congress but whose interests do these elected actually represent..?
Special interests lobbying groups
The exact same sociopaths that run our puppet democracy at the moment, there hasn't been a British Government that worked for the British people for almost three decades. The odd true politician that tries is quickly ostracised by their 'colleagues' or a hit piece via the MSM, then moved off the board. Woke didn't just happen, its a direct attack on all Western Democratic countries and if people in the Anglosphere don't stop watching mainstream media, we've had it.
Canada would just have been a lot bigger today if this hadn’t happened 😂
Even if we had defeated the insurrection in 1776, I wonder how committed we’d have been going forward given our interests in India. Put bluntly India was potentially more profitable. I think as long as we kept the French out of N. America, we’d probably have left you to your own devices?
UK...idiot politicians then, OMFG now!
This was interedting, but definitely not our point of view.
I blame Mel Gibson. Been causing trouble for centuries...
Can't even get a story right! Knobhead 😂
Happy American Independence EB.
They never go over the ",,,without representation" part. I mean if parliment can tax you and not the people who can vote them out... is all of you tube American heters?
50 years after these events no British working class men had the vote. One hundred years later only half of us could vote. It wasn't until 1918 that all men over the age of 21 were eligible to vote. So this no taxation without representation isn't really understood by the majority of those who chant it. The revolutionary war was in large part a civil war with those Americans on the losing side losing all their property and fleeing North to Canada. There was also a large element that wanted to expand Westward which would have broken treaties the British Had with the Indian Nations...........that's why the Indians were in support of the British against the French and Spanish. After the British got kicked out, expansion West started almost immediately, apart from invading Canada a couple of times but that didn't go too well.
The British people was promised a new land to call their own with politicaland religiousfreedom, parliament saw money to tax and trade to steal,the monarch let it happen although they sympathise with the colony and the Americans but did nothing then was embarrassed so acted aggressive and then history was written