I feel like at times Evan is a little scared? I guess you can call it that. It's as if Evan doesn't want to take risks and do pushes because he doesn't want Hal to get upset or he doesn't think Hal would agree with the play
I’d say he just does his role well, definitely the most skill on the team just needs to break out. But Hal needs to chill in reps, and reps needs to speak up more against Hal.
@@nathangentry1419 I mean Hal said he wanted Evan do jsut turn off his brain and shoot and not over think that's his "role" he even said to be more like snipe. Also Hal and reps can be screaming at each other and go next game and be okay because they're good friends and know that they both wanna win at time he does go a little too hard on reps but that's what happens
@@CallerEight true, except for the snipe thing. The snipe comment is meant as in don’t talk back, do exactly what you’re told. But that’s just losing on what Verhulst brings to the table then. And Ik that reps is able to go next after being spoken to like that, but after so long your mental has to take a toll. Especially when Hal yelled that bubble was thrown at the enemy team, but the edge of bubble was right in front of them anyways.
Evan is not snipedown and people really expect Hal to treat them the same. Hal usually just tells his team what they could have done better. Verhulst is young and new to the scene, he's still learning. I am really excited to see what becomes of Evan.
"Evan is not snip3down" Nobody is the same as another, we are all unique and different. Hal is so weird. He may be a pro with lots of wins, but the guy is super weirdo cringe. Yeah he is such an amazing gamer. But. He is so cringe and weird. All he is known for is winning apex tournaments and being a sore loser.
@@buddyguy2669 unnecessary comment honestly, you didn't even need to say anything. Your opinion on Hal has nothing to do with what I said about Verhulst. I don't care about Hals personality, I see the results in his gameplay
@@iBackPackGG Exactly, Snipedown was an established pro and one of the greatest of all time at halo. Hal could be straight up with and know snipedown wouldnt take it personally/ the wrong way.
I was noticing that the meta seemed a lot more diverse last ALGS split and would be really interested in seeing your take on legend meta rankings going into LAN! I find it rather interesting that it opened up though given that not a lot of legend balance changes have occurred in recent times iirc...
@@oneautumnleaff2119 Crypto can get rid of Gibby domes with his ult. But he doesn't really have enough recon and attack capabilities. Seer and Bloodhound can get free scans. Valk can use Q and has redeploy which are both good. Crypto's drone can easily be shot down and his ult usually isn't used since the team can just push in to others's Gibby bubbles
I think it's more because of EU and a few other regions discovering how good certain legends are at countering others as well as the legends taking on more roles. Like how Horizon is used instead of Bloodhound because of her mobility and Valkyrie can just be the recon instead and Horizon's Q is used to chase after flying Valks in the final circle
Bro when Hal asked where Jordan’s bubble was I actually cringed and I’m glad Jordan got that pissed at him for it! I don’t think from down low they really needed the bubble to pull off the valk ult so maybe next time Hal will keep that in mind
This content is amazing! It would be dope If we could get a small breakdown of some teams to lookout for in Sweden (mainly Asian/EU teams that the NA scene hasn’t really been exposed to)
@@rat4992 lmao already been on that. Recently getting better with gibby got my two teammates running bloodhound and valk. May have him change from bloodhound to ash or if he cant play ash then I'll switch to ash have him play gibby
@@richardzimmerman7113 nice! Just IMO but behind them, I think Hound, Pathy, Wraith, Loba, Caustic are also really good. Maybe Ash, Horizon, Wattson as well
@@richardzimmerman7113 tbh that’s the good thing about Gibby, Valk, and either Loba or Caustic: you have everything you need and all those characters are relatively easy to use. They have great tools
The problem with TSM rn how I see it is a combo of Verhulst being too timid and not giving enough comms, Reps being more and more frustrated to be on Gibby/@ Apex in general, and Hal being frustrated to the point where it seems to be clouding his in-game judgement and micro managing his teammates to where they end up being almost afraid to make plays
Something I would love to see is how other regions use different metas effectively. So maybe team commentary on some ALGS teams that arent based in NA that have typically "off-meta" legend selections? Love the content, keep killing it!!
im pretty new to the competitive scene of apex and honestly these videos help me a lot with getting invested in each team and all the storylines another banger indeed
Game 1 was less toxic than some of the other moments from Hal. He actually communicated the specific criticism of Rep's play. Sometimes, he's just angry and lashes out without actually pointing to anything to improve. The last game you showed is a perfect example of NON-TOXIC passionate criticism. People like to say "he's not toxic, he's just passionate!" when that's clearly not the case. Why is the last game non-toxic? There's yelling, but its about the specific actions that were taken, and it leads to an honest and productive discussion. Big on Hal for accepting ownership, and for the other guys for giving him feedback. Toxic behavior would have been, and has been in the past - asking irrelevant questions that are meant to demean your teammates and make yourself feel better. One example I've heard from Hal: "Jordan, how do you do NO DAMAGE, as GIBBY? I just don't understand" that doesn't help anyone.
@@d15p4tch6 But there are many things that could have happened that would have won them that fight, picking out the bubble placement as if that is the one thing that lost them the game when they could have made a better play in general is weak leadership
Super loving these proleague player/analysis. Would really like one or smaller ones covering the "smaller" teams like eSports arena or 100 Thieves as they are doing well right now.
True, TSXFTM looks kinda clunky. Whenever I see "TXMFTS" I wonder if anyone would actually notice if you'd mix up the letters, like TFMSTX or something Edit: Oh hell nah!!! You did too and I didn't notice! Nice one 😂 Edit 2: Oh hell nah!!! You edited it! Why'd you do that! 😭
The idea that he doesn't rage at Evan because he doesn't make mistakes very often could imply that the raging is a response to a recurring mistake or chronic poor decision making, just a thought
Simply amazing commentary. Your content is a joy to watch and reflect on, let alone your ALGS casting! Thank you so much for making this for us :) You are one of the champions of the Apex community.
As a competitive Apex lover man oh man have I been enjoying this type of content from you. There’s an unbiased, factual and observant standpoint you come from which I think is exactly what the Apex scene needs. You’re breakdowns and understanding of players is an art itself. I think you help bridge the gap between Pro players and fans, there’s too many misunderstandings or misconceptions and you paint a clear picture. LOVE the content my man keep it up!
Can’t believe you have less than 300 likes on this video. I’m not a Tsm fan because of Hal himself but your videos are top notch 👌🏼 Thank you Randay for such amazing breakdowns my guy 💯
My personal theory as to why the competitive meta has been so diverse lately is counter-intuitively, because valk and gibby are so strong. I think that the valk/gib ‘core’ is so solid that it leaves the third legend as a flex pick that can fulfill specific niches instead of necessities like rotating/defense/resetting. On the other hand, because valk and gibby are so strong, it makes legends that can counter them so much more valuable. Like the crypto/watson team that shut tsm’s oob attempt down in game 3
It's such interesting phenomenon. Some off meta legend used in different ALGS Region. I hope someday you can breakdown why and maybe interview team that use off meta legend (off meta in NA at least).
Would love this type of analyzation for the other top teams that made it to Sweeden. I'm not sure why but this got me even more hyped for the major. It's probably a lot to do, especially with the little time between now and the event, but it would be super cool going forward.
Anyone who didnt understand what Jordan (Reps) was yelling at about the 24:00 mark, it was "I bubbled for the valk ult" because Hal forgot that he was on cooldown
Raynday, very good analysis. As a TSM fan the questions I have asked myself about their performances, you have put into perspective for me. Keep doing all you do, and thank you
So ive been subscribed to you since smite picked up and been following along. and when I saw you starting to play apex I was very happy you had an interest in it. Now that you found and moved to another game that Ive loved from the start and to see one of my favorite youtubers that talk about things that are important and do so much for the community. It is a pleasure to click your videos, hear your input. Take your advice and be a supporter. I have known from the start that TSM on apex legends is the best team and it makes me proud that someone see's the effort and sweat that these players bring to the industry. These adults work so hard to get where they are at. While also are deserving to be there. Keep grinding Raynday. Hopefully meet you one day.
I give Reps a lot of credit for putting his ego aside and understanding that Hal is a man of PASSION lol at the same time, however, I would think that there comes a point, like in any relationship, where being talked down to (or just in a certain way) may start to take a toll, especially if the collective goals aren't exactly coming to fruition. Not that those instances can't be reconciled, but over a long period of time with added individual frustration, it can add up and start to mess with your head a little, even unconsciously. They've been doing this for so long (Hal and Reps) with little change to their dynamics it seems. They gotta spice things up a bit, maybe let Reps take some more responsibility, change up the roles or something. Go out on a date night, get some dinner, see a movie, IDK. Every relationship can use some shaking up to reset and put it back into perspective from time to time.
You are so right man, last split playoffs for example, no one was giving them any chance to win because Evan was new, and they were not playing well at all, hell even when Snipe was still there they weren't playing well, and then they proceed to demolish the playoffs lobby
It's so true about every family is different. I play with 2 main people. 1, were constantly yelling at each other about the other one messed up or whatever...and then we go right back to playing like nothing happened, then there's a second one where we walk on egg shells about each others play because it totally breaks down our dynamic. we go silent. It's real
I do wish that ALGS required the players to not swear or be verbally abusive. The reality is a lot of young kids watch this stuff and I've had my fair share of toxic teammates online (which is harder to prevent I realize). Gaming gets a bad rep for creating a toxic culture and I feel like as a community we could do more to help fix it. That said I do respect Hal.. just wish he would use that passion more constructively
If you are gonna do another tierlist I'd say that wait just bit longer to see how the next couple international scrims play cuz people are still getting use to them and they are experimenting a lot. Or atleast that's what it looks to the outside
Hal has that respect for his guys. People that hate on them haven't been apart of a competitive team. These guys are hyper aggressive cause they've trained to win, not come in 2nd. I love it!
They say he shouldn’t be talking that way. Dude that’s legit his life. He grinds the game every day and plays it for his living. It’s an extremely competitive esport, him being that passionate and getting upset makes sense. Plus Reps is used to Hal, he knows how he is, and has been playing with him for a long time. At the end of the day they’re always homies, and they talk shit out. At this point Evan is used to the way he talks too, and if he didn’t want to be there he wouldn’t of joined the team, he knew how he was getting into it.
One of the more interesting parts of the scrims is how TSM is working different comps and strategies. In the first two scrims they worked with their normal Ash / early rotation set up and it worked pretty well. In this most recent scream they use horizon and try to rotate late and work edge. Didn't work as well
people have to stop being so damn sensitive, these are professionals and they do this for a living. Look at how Kobe or MJ would talk to their teammates. Hal knows how to get the best out of his guys, he's competitive. All he wants is to win and when anything less than that happens its an issue.... as it should be this is the highest level of Apex possible, if he wasn't so demanding from his teammates TSM would be nowhere near where they are today.
@@Terriors not sure you understand what you’re even comparing. The point is, MJ/Kobe were LEADERS of their teams. Just like… Curry is the LEADER of the Warriors. He leads and the team follows, that’s it. Whether it is vocal or by actions. Green may be more vocal, but this is Curry’s team. Just as Kobe/MJ teams were theirs, but they had other drivers that gave directions. You may still be confused at your own point, but whatever. Lmao
Love these videos and TSM. Great job man. For me, Hal sounds like my old football coach. We were undefeated, just saying. I'm sure some people can relate, but love seeing that fire in eSports
Correction. EVERYONE wants to see them lose. That's why Hal being Hal, and reps and verhulst keep up with him. Because they both knows all Hal wants to prove them as good as others as a team
@@efhi i was rooting for scarz too but their performance during pro league was inconsistent. I was hoping both scarz(emea), and Sentinel(na) could pop off. But still, im rooting for Tsm. 🤭
The problem with a lot of these pro groups is that the company only cater to them and they make a lot of decisions based on what pros say not taking into the consideration what the actual community is saying, the game has changed dramatically because of what the pros say meanwhile Most of the community isn’t even pro.
Your titles are sometimes a bit clickbaity, but you end up breaking things down very well in a clear way. Only have caught the last couple videos but love the channels.
I always feel like tsm intentionally makes it look like they aren‘t on the same page before big tourneys, to take the target off their backs a bit. And then they just turn it to eleven on playday xD
I think it comes down to what Hal believes he needs to say to the person at the time. Whether that's from knowing the person a long time/working with them for a while or just understanding someones skillset better. Just because you treat 2 people completely different when giving criticism or feedback doesn't mean either way is right or wrong. Telling Evan(Verhaulst) hey man, be confident kick ass like you do, probably works great for him. Letting him know he supports his decisions. Reps doesn't seem like the guy who needs that reassurance. He knows Hal trusts him to do his job.
I can feel where Hal is coming from, if you lead a team there is only so much you can do to win and he has to make the big decisions. So if he says to bubble and you sit there and scratch your ass he has to scream at you its just the way it is.
Yeah I started noticing that the yelling and the screaming is useful in an effort to break through the brainfog. You have to like break through the confusion so both can be aligned on to what's happening/happened. Then there is the case with other teams that are always on the same page, so there isn't a need for screaming. But there is purpose to the yelling, its not to be hateful. Took me a while to realize that with TSM
Every other team coming second place in Sweden would be great for them, Tsm however that’s not the case. If they don’t come first it’s disappointing. That’s how good and successful they’ve been in big tournaments
I feel like at times Evan is a little scared? I guess you can call it that. It's as if Evan doesn't want to take risks and do pushes because he doesn't want Hal to get upset or he doesn't think Hal would agree with the play
This is 100% true asshole shotcallers absolutely kneecap confident players
I think he is scared cause he is playing in a new team and doesnt want to fck up and get called a bad sign
I’d say he just does his role well, definitely the most skill on the team just needs to break out. But Hal needs to chill in reps, and reps needs to speak up more against Hal.
@@nathangentry1419 I mean Hal said he wanted Evan do jsut turn off his brain and shoot and not over think that's his "role" he even said to be more like snipe. Also Hal and reps can be screaming at each other and go next game and be okay because they're good friends and know that they both wanna win at time he does go a little too hard on reps but that's what happens
@@CallerEight true, except for the snipe thing. The snipe comment is meant as in don’t talk back, do exactly what you’re told. But that’s just losing on what Verhulst brings to the table then. And Ik that reps is able to go next after being spoken to like that, but after so long your mental has to take a toll. Especially when Hal yelled that bubble was thrown at the enemy team, but the edge of bubble was right in front of them anyways.
Goddamn, this is some of the best content you've ever done.
We're really lucky to have you man.
🙏🏾
Factual I love these kinds of videos. Ray 🐐
Evan is not snipedown and people really expect Hal to treat them the same. Hal usually just tells his team what they could have done better. Verhulst is young and new to the scene, he's still learning. I am really excited to see what becomes of Evan.
"Evan is not snip3down" Nobody is the same as another, we are all unique and different. Hal is so weird. He may be a pro with lots of wins, but the guy is super weirdo cringe. Yeah he is such an amazing gamer. But. He is so cringe and weird. All he is known for is winning apex tournaments and being a sore loser.
@@buddyguy2669 unnecessary comment honestly, you didn't even need to say anything. Your opinion on Hal has nothing to do with what I said about Verhulst. I don't care about Hals personality, I see the results in his gameplay
@@iBackPackGG Exactly, Snipedown was an established pro and one of the greatest of all time at halo. Hal could be straight up with and know snipedown wouldnt take it personally/ the wrong way.
@@buddyguy2669 sounds like you're just a hater tbh
@@iBackPackGG Yeah but people can say whatever they want, at any point. These moving bodies get to have opinions.
I was noticing that the meta seemed a lot more diverse last ALGS split and would be really interested in seeing your take on legend meta rankings going into LAN! I find it rather interesting that it opened up though given that not a lot of legend balance changes have occurred in recent times iirc...
Crypto could easily be a meta ALGS legend but we won't ever see that because of crutch gibby and valk
@@oneautumnleaff2119 Crypto can get rid of Gibby domes with his ult. But he doesn't really have enough recon and attack capabilities.
Seer and Bloodhound can get free scans. Valk can use Q and has redeploy which are both good.
Crypto's drone can easily be shot down and his ult usually isn't used since the team can just push in to others's Gibby bubbles
I think it's more because of EU and a few other regions discovering how good certain legends are at countering others as well as the legends taking on more roles.
Like how Horizon is used instead of Bloodhound because of her mobility and Valkyrie can just be the recon instead and Horizon's Q is used to chase after flying Valks in the final circle
Bro when Hal asked where Jordan’s bubble was I actually cringed and I’m glad Jordan got that pissed at him for it! I don’t think from down low they really needed the bubble to pull off the valk ult so maybe next time Hal will keep that in mind
Same glad Hal took accountability for that mistake even tho it took Jordan to get pissed
Could we get a breakdown of C9? Id love to see you break down how they go about their business amongst all the carnage
This content is amazing! It would be dope If we could get a small breakdown of some teams to lookout for in Sweden (mainly Asian/EU teams that the NA scene hasn’t really been exposed to)
Can we get an updated legend tier list please. Not only for ALGS but for Casual Ranked games
Gibby and Valk S tier so always use them. Easy 🤣
@@rat4992 lmao already been on that. Recently getting better with gibby got my two teammates running bloodhound and valk. May have him change from bloodhound to ash or if he cant play ash then I'll switch to ash have him play gibby
@@richardzimmerman7113 nice! Just IMO but behind them, I think Hound, Pathy, Wraith, Loba, Caustic are also really good. Maybe Ash, Horizon, Wattson as well
@@rat4992 agreed they are good only if the person knows how to use them properly
@@richardzimmerman7113 tbh that’s the good thing about Gibby, Valk, and either Loba or Caustic: you have everything you need and all those characters are relatively easy to use. They have great tools
The problem with TSM rn how I see it is a combo of Verhulst being too timid and not giving enough comms, Reps being more and more frustrated to be on Gibby/@ Apex in general, and Hal being frustrated to the point where it seems to be clouding his in-game judgement and micro managing his teammates to where they end up being almost afraid to make plays
Something I would love to see is how other regions use different metas effectively. So maybe team commentary on some ALGS teams that arent based in NA that have typically "off-meta" legend selections? Love the content, keep killing it!!
im pretty new to the competitive scene of apex and honestly these videos help me a lot with getting invested in each team and all the storylines
another banger indeed
Game 1 was less toxic than some of the other moments from Hal. He actually communicated the specific criticism of Rep's play. Sometimes, he's just angry and lashes out without actually pointing to anything to improve.
The last game you showed is a perfect example of NON-TOXIC passionate criticism. People like to say "he's not toxic, he's just passionate!" when that's clearly not the case. Why is the last game non-toxic? There's yelling, but its about the specific actions that were taken, and it leads to an honest and productive discussion. Big on Hal for accepting ownership, and for the other guys for giving him feedback.
Toxic behavior would have been, and has been in the past - asking irrelevant questions that are meant to demean your teammates and make yourself feel better. One example I've heard from Hal: "Jordan, how do you do NO DAMAGE, as GIBBY? I just don't understand" that doesn't help anyone.
He was talking to/about Evan. Not reps
@@im_jlew I was referencing game 1 where he complained about Rep's bubble placement
@@d15p4tch6 oh my bad. Thought you were talking about the confidence part.
There's also times Hal blames his team's skill on RNG.
@@d15p4tch6 But there are many things that could have happened that would have won them that fight, picking out the bubble placement as if that is the one thing that lost them the game when they could have made a better play in general is weak leadership
I love this pro scene content. And the Apex comp scene stocks only gonna go up haha
You should do a segment on C9 also ! I can see the Zach Mazer moments already 🤣
Super loving these proleague player/analysis.
Would really like one or smaller ones covering the "smaller" teams like eSports arena or 100 Thieves as they are doing well right now.
that was my first video I watched from you and I really liked how you did it. Subbed :)
The biggest problem with them is their long name “TSMFTX”
FTXTSM*** also I feel that deal made it longer and a little annoying lol
@@richardzimmerman7113 agreed
True, TSXFTM looks kinda clunky. Whenever I see "TXMFTS" I wonder if anyone would actually notice if you'd mix up the letters, like TFMSTX or something
Edit: Oh hell nah!!! You did too and I didn't notice! Nice one 😂
Edit 2: Oh hell nah!!! You edited it! Why'd you do that! 😭
Why is it even fox? What’s that?
this is incredible content and exactly what I was looking for commentary wise especially from you!!! thanks man
Another banger as usual. Can't wait for the C9 breakdown 😬
I would love a C9 video! I feel like they've been kind of... out of sync the past few months.
@@corallaroc4449 forever
@@jessesimpson1579 I'll watch some more of their vods from the 1st split! I think you might be right about the comms
The idea that he doesn't rage at Evan because he doesn't make mistakes very often could imply that the raging is a response to a recurring mistake or chronic poor decision making, just a thought
That WE fight when Hal wasn't using the gold bag had me bugged, for some reason 🤷♂
Simply amazing commentary. Your content is a joy to watch and reflect on, let alone your ALGS casting! Thank you so much for making this for us :) You are one of the champions of the Apex community.
💙🤝🏾 ty homie! Glad you’re here
"Hal has not met Evan in person" - Ehmmm.. don't they like, live together?
Nope. Hal lives with Jordan (Reps). But Even is literally moving in today or tomorrow one of those two days (I'm in a different time zone).
As a competitive Apex lover man oh man have I been enjoying this type of content from you. There’s an unbiased, factual and observant standpoint you come from which I think is exactly what the Apex scene needs. You’re breakdowns and understanding of players is an art itself. I think you help bridge the gap between Pro players and fans, there’s too many misunderstandings or misconceptions and you paint a clear picture. LOVE the content my man keep it up!
amazing video here man, great commentary. keep it up
Can’t believe you have less than 300 likes on this video. I’m not a Tsm fan because of Hal himself but your videos are top notch 👌🏼
Thank you Randay for such amazing breakdowns my guy 💯
My personal theory as to why the competitive meta has been so diverse lately is counter-intuitively, because valk and gibby are so strong.
I think that the valk/gib ‘core’ is so solid that it leaves the third legend as a flex pick that can fulfill specific niches instead of necessities like rotating/defense/resetting.
On the other hand, because valk and gibby are so strong, it makes legends that can counter them so much more valuable. Like the crypto/watson team that shut tsm’s oob attempt down in game 3
I really enjoy these videos, you nailed it!
Finally new video! Been waiting for this! Thank you coach! Have a great day!
It's such interesting phenomenon. Some off meta legend used in different ALGS Region. I hope someday you can breakdown why and maybe interview team that use off meta legend (off meta in NA at least).
Hope to do so in Sweden for the Playoffs!
Would love this type of analyzation for the other top teams that made it to Sweeden. I'm not sure why but this got me even more hyped for the major. It's probably a lot to do, especially with the little time between now and the event, but it would be super cool going forward.
Cracked breakdown my guy!
Raynday has been consistently putting out some of more meaningful and nuanced breakdown/content in the entire Apex community.
Anyone who didnt understand what Jordan (Reps) was yelling at about the 24:00 mark, it was "I bubbled for the valk ult" because Hal forgot that he was on cooldown
Raynday, very good analysis. As a TSM fan the questions I have asked myself about their performances, you have put into perspective for me. Keep doing all you do, and thank you
this was fun to watch, good content!
So ive been subscribed to you since smite picked up and been following along. and when I saw you starting to play apex I was very happy you had an interest in it. Now that you found and moved to another game that Ive loved from the start and to see one of my favorite youtubers that talk about things that are important and do so much for the community. It is a pleasure to click your videos, hear your input. Take your advice and be a supporter. I have known from the start that TSM on apex legends is the best team and it makes me proud that someone see's the effort and sweat that these players bring to the industry. These adults work so hard to get where they are at. While also are deserving to be there. Keep grinding Raynday. Hopefully meet you one day.
Please keep these team series going!!!
I give Reps a lot of credit for putting his ego aside and understanding that Hal is a man of PASSION lol at the same time, however, I would think that there comes a point, like in any relationship, where being talked down to (or just in a certain way) may start to take a toll, especially if the collective goals aren't exactly coming to fruition. Not that those instances can't be reconciled, but over a long period of time with added individual frustration, it can add up and start to mess with your head a little, even unconsciously. They've been doing this for so long (Hal and Reps) with little change to their dynamics it seems. They gotta spice things up a bit, maybe let Reps take some more responsibility, change up the roles or something. Go out on a date night, get some dinner, see a movie, IDK. Every relationship can use some shaking up to reset and put it back into perspective from time to time.
great job bro, well thought out and excellent insight. keep it up bro
You are so right man, last split playoffs for example, no one was giving them any chance to win because Evan was new, and they were not playing well at all, hell even when Snipe was still there they weren't playing well, and then they proceed to demolish the playoffs lobby
Exactly everyone started counting them out because they were having some growing pains in Scrims and they ended up destroying everyone convincingly.
It's so true about every family is different. I play with 2 main people. 1, were constantly yelling at each other about the other one messed up or whatever...and then we go right back to playing like nothing happened, then there's a second one where we walk on egg shells about each others play because it totally breaks down our dynamic. we go silent. It's real
bro i loved this! you are the goat! best caster hands down
All they need is PASSION
I do wish that ALGS required the players to not swear or be verbally abusive. The reality is a lot of young kids watch this stuff and I've had my fair share of toxic teammates online (which is harder to prevent I realize). Gaming gets a bad rep for creating a toxic culture and I feel like as a community we could do more to help fix it. That said I do respect Hal.. just wish he would use that passion more constructively
great analysis!!! so educational
dope video man
If you are gonna do another tierlist I'd say that wait just bit longer to see how the next couple international scrims play cuz people are still getting use to them and they are experimenting a lot. Or atleast that's what it looks to the outside
Hal has that respect for his guys. People that hate on them haven't been apart of a competitive team. These guys are hyper aggressive cause they've trained to win, not come in 2nd. I love it!
3:04 you said "Hal has not met Evan in person". He literally moved into the TSM house with Hal/Reps months ago.
Can we get a video on C9? Pre and post knoqd if possible
Lol I love when u upload its lowkey so entertaining
Great video man
They say he shouldn’t be talking that way. Dude that’s legit his life. He grinds the game every day and plays it for his living. It’s an extremely competitive esport, him being that passionate and getting upset makes sense. Plus Reps is used to Hal, he knows how he is, and has been playing with him for a long time. At the end of the day they’re always homies, and they talk shit out. At this point Evan is used to the way he talks too, and if he didn’t want to be there he wouldn’t of joined the team, he knew how he was getting into it.
lol, just got on, congrats on the vid?
i'm still in ads.... so i'm sure its GOATED!
Updated tier list for sure! :)
One of the more interesting parts of the scrims is how TSM is working different comps and strategies. In the first two scrims they worked with their normal Ash / early rotation set up and it worked pretty well. In this most recent scream they use horizon and try to rotate late and work edge. Didn't work as well
I normally watch videos but never comment but man this content is very insightful and professionally done. Man keep up the great work.
people have to stop being so damn sensitive, these are professionals and they do this for a living. Look at how Kobe or MJ would talk to their teammates. Hal knows how to get the best out of his guys, he's competitive. All he wants is to win and when anything less than that happens its an issue.... as it should be this is the highest level of Apex possible, if he wasn't so demanding from his teammates TSM would be nowhere near where they are today.
and im not comparing apex to pro basketball im simply comparing the competitiveness of playing and doing something at the highest level possible
Although I do agree with this, Hal can say some things differently
Ok and? Look at how Curry talks to and of his teammates?
@@mzshanee curry isn't the vocal leader... Look at Draymond.
@@Terriors not sure you understand what you’re even comparing. The point is, MJ/Kobe were LEADERS of their teams. Just like… Curry is the LEADER of the Warriors. He leads and the team follows, that’s it. Whether it is vocal or by actions. Green may be more vocal, but this is Curry’s team. Just as Kobe/MJ teams were theirs, but they had other drivers that gave directions. You may still be confused at your own point, but whatever. Lmao
they all live together now been like that for awhile
Love these videos and TSM. Great job man. For me, Hal sounds like my old football coach. We were undefeated, just saying. I'm sure some people can relate, but love seeing that fire in eSports
A little late but I would love to hear a tier list from you. Just started watching your content and your opinions keep le intrigued
Make a updated tier list please
I’ve never heard anyone use “gas leak” like you did but somehow I knew exactly what you meant when you said it 😂
Correction. EVERYONE wants to see them lose. That's why Hal being Hal, and reps and verhulst keep up with him. Because they both knows all Hal wants to prove them as good as others as a team
Nah I wanna see them win everything tbh, I don't like any other team nearly as much as them. TSM brings the PASSION.
Very not true, I'm rooting for Scarz first place and then TSM
@@efhi i was rooting for scarz too but their performance during pro league was inconsistent. I was hoping both scarz(emea), and Sentinel(na) could pop off. But still, im rooting for Tsm. 🤭
@@jeremylenjau7635 yup it's really stressful rooting for scarz lmao
@@efhi but the final game seems okay i guess...once in a while they popped off
Another point about Verhulst vs Snipedown is that every person needs to be managed differently
"Gravity Bomb"
An Overwatch background might be showing a bit.. lol : P
I did cast 3 years of Paladins so I know my fair share of Hero Shooter abilities - think I slipped on this one :)
Great analysis
Tier list for both pubs, ranked, and professional play
Hello there, if possible, can you make a Kings Canyon ranked guide? I am so tired of getting third partied! Would really apreciate your opinion on it!
play caustic
The problem with a lot of these pro groups is that the company only cater to them and they make a lot of decisions based on what pros say not taking into the consideration what the actual community is saying, the game has changed dramatically because of what the pros say meanwhile Most of the community isn’t even pro.
You said Hal and Velhurst haven't met in person??? The TSM pro team live together.
He didn't throw the bubble at them tho he just wasn't ready for them to be as close as they were
It would be cool if you made a competitive teams tier list
I would to see a video of you talking about "ShivFPS" if you havnt already!
Good analysis
These videos are so so good
Bruh, that family comment hit too close to home 😆
Your titles are sometimes a bit clickbaity, but you end up breaking things down very well in a clear way. Only have caught the last couple videos but love the channels.
Not that clickbaity
Another banger 🔥
2 mins and love this type of content. Sub'd
Where’s that video
Anyone can learn a lot from these videos, no matter the skill level. Great job Raynday! :D
Hal, Evan, and Reps live together as of recently
Would love to see you cover G2 La la land team
When does tourney start?
Can you do one for the SEN boys. Love these videos.
Please update tier list please love it
They all live together
when is the LAN guys ?
I always feel like tsm intentionally makes it look like they aren‘t on the same page before big tourneys, to take the target off their backs a bit. And then they just turn it to eleven on playday xD
i cant wait for one of these to be made about my team
Worse thing we could have ever done was pay people to play the same game we play every day smh
If you do make this a series I would love to see a breakdown of SoloQgoats.
I think it comes down to what Hal believes he needs to say to the person at the time. Whether that's from knowing the person a long time/working with them for a while or just understanding someones skillset better. Just because you treat 2 people completely different when giving criticism or feedback doesn't mean either way is right or wrong. Telling Evan(Verhaulst) hey man, be confident kick ass like you do, probably works great for him. Letting him know he supports his decisions. Reps doesn't seem like the guy who needs that reassurance. He knows Hal trusts him to do his job.
I can feel where Hal is coming from, if you lead a team there is only so much you can do to win and he has to make the big decisions. So if he says to bubble and you sit there and scratch your ass he has to scream at you its just the way it is.
Yeah I started noticing that the yelling and the screaming is useful in an effort to break through the brainfog. You have to like break through the confusion so both can be aligned on to what's happening/happened. Then there is the case with other teams that are always on the same page, so there isn't a need for screaming. But there is purpose to the yelling, its not to be hateful. Took me a while to realize that with TSM
Hal, Jordan and Evan/Verhulst all live together
Every other team coming second place in Sweden would be great for them, Tsm however that’s not the case. If they don’t come first it’s disappointing. That’s how good and successful they’ve been in big tournaments