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My boss is blackmailing me. He is saying, if I don't show up to work, he won't pay me. Grocery stores are blackmailing me. They're saying, if I don't pay them money, they won't provide me food. My mortgage lender is blackmailing me. They're saying, if I don't pay them money, they will take my house. My girlfriend is blackmailing me. She is saying, if I don't shower and do things with her, she will leave me. Everyone is so evil! Since when do we have to give in order to receive?
It is always worth remembering that the only time in Elon’s professional life that he worked for a business he didn’t control he got fired within the first six months
@@3DisFuntastic - I think you're missing the point. Musk can't handle any situation where he doesn't have sufficient power to just steamroller any criticism. And that's made him both a) incapable of handling criticism, and b) much more worthy of criticism.
I have never seen Musk so uncomforable before. He stammers, nods in agreement with himself, looks around for support all the time like a drowning man, and says random BS when challenged for an answer. He has done all of that before of course, but this time he looks very highly stressed. At 4:25 his collapse into incoherence is spectacular. His fans and backers should be deserting him like rats from a sinking ship.
Shows how he's not very smart, the fact that there's incoherent thoughts show it's not all on a logical framework. Anyway I won't be left bagholding his B💩.
There's nothing at all wrong with a meritocracy, though. That's the problem: there _isn't_ any merit-based advancement in the world. Elon's super rich not because of any merit, but because he started out with a fortune and failed upwards, which is trivial to do with enough starting money. If you have enough money, you can buy the "right connections", and if you have the right connections, you can make even more money. There's nothing in there about merit, and in fact actual _merit_ is excluded by the established rich dumbasses who actively destroy anyone competent from taking their place. Elon has shown that being rich is the exact opposite of being intelligent, and that has been a valuable lesson, but it's also a lesson that *nobody wants to freaking LEARN already.* In a sane world, Elon would've proposed his magical vacuum tube train ideas with the giant blower fan on the front and he'd have been quietly taken out back behind the shed and mercy-shot. Instead, he's allowed to continue while the sane world watches in shock and dismay, unable to do anything about him and his ilk, and are forced to see his decade-long self-destruction and treat it as a form of cheap entertainment while the world burns to ashes. A meritocracy would be nice. What we have is nepotism and compound interest.
Tesla production facilities are indeed way ahead of his competition. This includes the car factories and the battery factories. Tesla actually makes profit, unlike all the other electric car manufacturers.
thats only because they had the capital to head hunt the global leaders in alot of tech development from the uk and Australia, all because of both nations conservative govs gouging funds from scientific developments@@yarpenzigrin1893
And don’t forget Elmo said “a good friend”😂 I was laughing so hard. I had to rewatch it over and over again. And again and again. Each time it got better and better. 😂 His simps are complete morons. End of story. And this is why he is where he is. Cuz he listens to them. And they love, and think he’s a “genius”. Let the dumpster fire begin. 😂
You know the guy was getting annoyed at all the soft balls he was throwing at Elon, only to hasn't him continue to be a jackass. If Elon wasn't turning the whole interview into a circus Sorkin likely would not have fact checked him in front of a live audience.
Musk @9:00 : _"If the company fails because of an advertisers' boycott, it will fail because of an advertisers' boycott"_ . Who else in the world could have realised this profound truth? To hear such pearls wisdom gives us a tanalising glimpse of the inner workings of a brain the size of a planet.
But what boycott? The advertisers weren’t organizing to force him to change. They were leaving because what Mux was offering them wasn’t what they wanted. Try this: 1) buy a popular restaurant. 2) substitute plastic food for the real food that was on the menu. 3) When customers stop patronizing your business and going to restaurants that serve real food, complain about a boycott. It’s probably part of his narcissistic pathology to blame “them” (a shadowy cabal) for attacking him, when he is only thwarting himself. But I don’t know. Elon Mux’s fascinating psychology gets boring really quickly.
That's what you get for wanting to incorporate a story into your fiction before said story is completely written. And when you blindly follow the media hype instead of doing your own research. Then again, the one time they actually bothered researching something, they got sued for plagiarism, so yeah. Modern Trek has no business calling itself Star Trek, IMHO.
There's an episode of Young Sheldon where they stroke off Elon Musk...... About landing rocket boosters. Some NASA engineer can't explain to young Sheldon why rocket boosters can't be landed after launch. The whole time I'm shouting at the TV, "BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO CARRY EXTRA FUEL YOU DOPES! YOU CAN'T TAKE AS MUCH TO SPACE! DIMINISHED PAYLOAD! IT'S NOT THAT EXPENSIVE TO GO GET A BOOSTER OUT OF THE OCEAN WHEN YOU'RE ALREADY SPENDING MILLIONS OF $$ ON THE LAUNCH!!!" My eyes were rolling uncontrollably.
...and the blue check folk are the drawcards. Stephen King was right when he said "Charge us $20? WTF? We're the reason people show up!", and ol' Muskie still didn't get it by replying "$8?". What a genius!
The Twitter users are also a part of the customer base. They are exchanging their eyeball time for the interesting content that Twitter provides. So when you make the platform a vile cesspit, you lose users. Fewer users equals a smaller user base to monetize. He's screwing himself both ways.
@@j.f.christ8421It's hilarious how such a massive decision by a multi billion dollar company was made on a whim based on a twitter argument with Stephen King LOL
Props to the interviewer for doubling down with a polite and sincerely curious "but there is a reality too?" I guess he was not expecting this, as most media treat him like god and when he drops such an amazeballs cooler than ice "F.U." they would just laugh with him making deer eyes and ask the next question about why he is so genius.
@@jackcollins7061 I'm pretty sure said GFY I think we just didn't hear the G because he said it when the interviewer was speaking. He say's it twice is only reason I'm sure of this. First he said "Go Fucg Yourself" than he said "GFY" and the interviewer was asking a follow up I'm pretty sure before he finished the follow up question Elon already said the "G" and when he stops speaking we hear "FY".
I'd say the disbelief has more to do with all the other stuff Musk has said at that point and maybe also to an extent the fact he calls him "Jonathan".
@@Case_ Whats wrong with you? nobody likes those hosts but every guest will tell the audience that they know and like each other. Thats how those shows are made.
The funniest part about this is seeomg all the empty corporate suits who all looked up to Musky, one by one, get Musked themselves. Finally a tiny little flicker of a lightbulb goes off in their heads. "Oh."
This is the definition of cutting off your nose to spite your face. I wouldn't willingly touch any product this man has anything to do with. His investors must be so proud!
It's like Elon thinks that X is the only platform those companies can advertise on. Alternate platforms for advertising exist, here are some of them: Radio, TV, Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, RUclips, Google... all those companies can advertise there.
And the same capital collectively decides whether a platforms content is acceptable or not - interestingly, in unison. We used to call those cartels. Perhaps we should acknowledge there's a cartel on public discourse, one step removed but no less effective. And fight back.
@@aarrcchhoonntt The way to fight back is decentralization and decommercialization. Advertiser boycotts help with the decommercialization part, but decentralization has to follow or the platform will eventually lack the resources to sustain itself. Decentralizing Xitter means Musk would have to remove himself from power, which is antithetical to everything he lives for.
He's the smartest person in the universe. He knows more about everything than everybody who ever lived put together. He can bend steel with his eyeballs.
@@creamwobbly They are flat on the outside but not on the inside. They were supposed to be flat on both sides but they decided to go with stamping for manufacturing reasons. At least that's what I heard.
Looking at Elon's decisions in the last months, Twitter still has a lot of momentum (e.g. active users). So if Twitter goes down, Elon might also be late.
No,i think he can turn things the way that others will holding the bag!Make an ipo of X the amazing future everything app and an ipo of SpaceX and Starlink and Tesla fanboy investor will blindly invest in it!Alsi some crazy rightwing extremists will give him money for X
He either doesn't have an assistant or he shrugged them off long ago. You can tell because if you zoom in closely you can see he missed a spot shaving under his jaw. No assistant would let him go on television like that. One or more people always look you over before any appearance on stage like that. He very likely brushed them away. He doesn't take advice in any form apparently.
Then that poor assistant had to meet him back stage, smile and say "Oh you did great boss. You made some great points". Then Linda Yaccarino got into her car and cried all the way back to the hotel.
thats right, nobody cared about that, but now Musk have inserted Twitter in the middle of culture wars and all the people the "anti wokes" will now be happy to pay for twitter :D
@@blackguy-ij7ij The right wing trolls won't give a shit about Twitter after it goes under, nor will anyone else. They will move on, leaving Musk muttering into his beer about where he went wrong. Who today gives shit about what happened to Compuserve or countless other former internet companies, apart from IT historians?
Thunderf00t we need a scientific deep dive on the difference between throwing a steel ball and a baseball at the window of the cyber truck 😂 it was comedy gold seeing them redo the test with a soft ball at the recent unveiling
I need a psychologist to delve into the intricacies of what it says about Elon that 4 years later he's not only "not gotten over it, or at least moved past it," but he's still so bothered by it that he convinced himself the demo with the softball would somehow absolve and vindicate him of the failure with the metal ball. I wouldn't be surprised if after the softball display, he went back stage grinning ear to ear, giving high fives to sycophants saying "see? I told you! I told them! I sure showed them!" While those around him smiled in return "you sure did, Elon! Great job!"
@@ricardomeertens9165 The pettiness of the left? You have right wing people who won’t even bake a cake for some homos, but I’m supposed to be… what, outraged on behalf of a billionaire not getting richer? LMFAO. Never in my life will I lick boots that dirty. Stand up, son. Straighten your spine and get some dignity. Good lord.
The comments section is as nuts as always. A couple of points: 1. There is no blackmail here. If you have a service, like twitter, that allows advertising, you in no way can make advertisers use your service. They will only do so if that makes more money for them than that advertising costs. If company X's customers don't like using twitter, it's not worth advertising on. Full stop. It does not matter how or why people aren't using twitter- if the customers aren't there, neither is the advertising dollars. 2. Freedom of speech only applies to censorship by the government. Twitter is not the government nor is it run by the government. It's a publicly owned conpany. Twittet can selectively choose who gets to use, who gets to see what, and who gets what kind of adds displayed. Freedom of speach arguments on privately owned platforms are 100% pointless. If you think you are not being heard on that platform, don't use it. 3. Even if freedom of speech laws applied to a company, which they don't, but if they did it still does not prevent people from disagreeing with you or calling you an idiot based on what you are posting. Musk is an idiot that is publicly shooting himself in the foot. He's not suddenly some kind of right wing freedom of speech activist. He's a bad business owner trying to play upon what many view as the easiest to manipulate and con demographic in the country. Anyone supporting him becuase he's now antisemitic or anti government is just another victim of his con, just like everybody investing in his dumb ideas have done for over a decade at this point.
You are wrong about the free speech argument, you can now speak freely on Twitter without being banned for saying something they don't like. 3-4 years ago, before Elon bought it, you could be banned for saying men cannot be women or wearing a mask during covid is stupid and won't do anything or quoting the Bible and I could go on and on..
@@aarrcchhoonntt Because, according to US law, companies are literally people. So he is trying to limit the companies' free speech to....not advertise on his platform.
@judetravers Any excuse to rationalize their personal biases against the man. I think this channel is just about at the end of its useful lifetime. The amount of autofellatio is utterly pathetic.
I think it's partly because he has money and they want money, and they think admiring him will somehow make that happen. But it's also because a world where someone can be that rich and powerful while being demonstrably incompetent, inept and just a generally awful human being is a depressing world, so people kind of go into denial and decide that there must be some hidden virtue to him that we'll find as long as we study the orb hard enough.
When he announced he was buying twitter, I had hoped it was with the intension of destroying it for the good of all mankind...turns out this may be closer to the truth than expected.
Can we... Can we just stop with the mental gymnastics. I'm sorry but it's pretty clear as of right now his goal was never and will never be to shut Twitter down. If that was his goal if that was truly his goal. He should have dissolved the company and took down the servers day one. If he wanted to end Twitter that _is_ what he would have done. End of discussion. Doing anything else means it was explicitly not his goal to end Twitter. Even if his future actions result in Twitter ending. No do not try to say "well he is thinking of employee welfare" bullshit. That didn't stop him laying off half his staff upon taking over. You are basically trying to say a toddler meant to wet their bed as some kind of performative art piece on post modern colonialism. For fucks sake. You are not clever, Musk isn't playing ND chess, and he most certainly isn't acting with humanities best interest at heart.
After being heartily booed at Dave Chappelle's show earlier this year when he was clearly expecting to receive fawning adoration, you'd think he would understand that he's not seen as some savior of mankind anymore.
I think that Twitter needs to beware since this advertiser pause by their big customers is an opportunity for those advertisers to see what the return on their previous advertising really was. If they see no significant decrease in their business without advertising on Twitter during this pause, they may choose never to return regardless of changes in Twitter that might be made to appease them. That will be interesting to see if that information is available to see in 6 months time or so.
This is the problem. THEY ALREADY KNEW THIS. A marketing guy last year had a very insightful article where he talked about how NO ONE marketed on Twitter because it was a good ROI. They mainly spent there because they had relationships with their ad executives, and they committed small amounts of their budgets to twitter ads. The fact that they had NO problem pulling out completely and permanently almost immediately after he fired everyone, basically WAS them realizing how they never needed to spend money there, so they stopped. Elon is already in deep shit because the advertisers he lost are not coming back. They have no reason to. Twitter ads did not really translate into sales.
@@stretch654 Ah, but he has you beat with misdirection. The _real_ genius is the doubling down when he can clearly see how badly he messed it this time. His other dumpster fire, SpaceX, just released a video on YT clearly showing him and others going crazy with glee and high fives twice, when each of his two stages of spacecraft blew up. He shows each explosion with enhanced quality and a music track, then cuts to himself going "YEAHHH!!!" 😀 and double high-fiving the nearest engineer.
@mipmipmipmipmip But to what end? In the same interview, he admits he's trying to sink the company: "What it's gonna do, it's gonna kill the company!" Then nods assuredly. Check out his facial flourish at 7:29. Are you saying sinking the company was his intent from the start? 'Cause from my angle it very much looks like he suddenly realized his choice of words was a big mistake, but doubled down because he figured it'd be an even bigger mistake to admit to the customers and debt-holders, and potential future ones, that he made such a huge mistake.
6:06 That's an interesting take to go into bankruptcy court with. Heck, it's gotta work better than reminding the judge that there's video from an NYT interview where it becomes abundantly clear that he has zero understanding of his own business model ("Screw those advertisers, who needs them? They were just blackmailing me with their rotten money.").
You should watch Patrick Boyle's analysis of why Musk's claim that Twitter is going to be 'half the global financial market' is not just delusional, but deeply stupid. He addresses why western countries have already rejected the Chinese model that Musk seems to believe he can recreate on Twitter.
Western countries are parasites that are going to be irrelevant soon enough, they don't produce resources, they don't produce manifactured products, they are just parasites that have been plundering the world for centuries and luckily the global south is gonna see justice and the west will be punished. The most egregious western countries such as UK and the US will cease to exist, they'll be balkanized.
Elon to Advertisers: Don't want to give me money? That's blackmail! Also Elon: Give me money or I'll shadow ban you I'm starting to think this Elon guy might not have the business acumen that he claims to have.
The world according to Elon Musk is: Elon Musk can do whatever *he* wants but *others* are *not* allowed to do what they want. The way he looked into the distance when he said the public is the judge. He really thought he said something so profound. "Let them vote with their dollars! I don't care! ... but *people* will care" Pathetic.
Wow. I never saw the interview, but wow. I've got several friends in my life that I've known over 16 years.. not sure I could be made to forget any of their names however. It seems as though Musk has gotten himself thunderstruck again.
It's worth watching entirely. So many gems. The interviewer is a complete bootlicker and yet Elon manages to come off so badly, it's incredible. The moment he mentions his "design" for an electric VTOL jet is my favourite.
@@MrTaxiRob He was certainly on something during the interview.. He is only here because he said he would and they are friends yet didn't know the guys name. 50% Women and 50% ethnic people? No men then unless bunched in with the ethnic people?
@@WhiteDieselShed We have a lot of public sectors in my country that needs workers and we have competent people who apply for the jobs but get rejection after rejection. It turns out after some journalistic digging that people are being rejected because of diversity quotas that are enforced by the government. Even though the employer is desperate for hands. They are also not allowed to specifically search for people of ethnicity or gender in job listings even though it's litterally the only thing they want. And then of course there are sectors were quota ideals runs rampant and were they would rather let the whole system fail than to hire someone for their merits.
I can't tell if you're being sarcastic here cause that's definitely not the case. California has decimated it's plans for public high speed rail in part due to his claims about the hyperloop, Biden made major changes to ev charging station infrastructure programs b/c of the concentration of Tesla charging stations, NASA relies exclusively on spacex for satellite in space station launches, starlink is so crutial to Ukrainian defense that dod personnel had to go kiss his ass in person in hope he wouldn't just shut it off in the middle of a battle b/c some random thing irked him personally & much more.
But it terrifies me & should terrify everyone else that he is involved in national security through SpaceX & Starlink. He did it to Ukraine with Starlink & will do it to the US unless he is sidelined. This guy is scrambled & not to be trusted with anything.
I think asking Elon whether he’d keep the company running with his own resources was a good move by the interviewer. He probably understands that he doesn’t have the cash. If he had said “yes,” that would say a lot about the value of Tesla.
Problem is that the 'value' of Tesla is fluid to its stock price. Elon didn't even buy Twitter outright because liquedating enough shares to pay for it would have cost him his majority (controlling) shareholder position. If the market suddenly wakes up to the fact that Tesla isn't so great that super hi stock value will drop off a cliff and if Musk doesn't sell out fast enough his net worth will evaporate with it.
@@crwydryny 🎶 "He's Arnold, Arnold, Arnold Rimmer. More reliable than a garden strimmer. He's never been mistaken for Yul Brynner, He's not bald, and his head doesn't glimmer." 🎶
I really think, from his pov, when he says that without advertising the company wrote a business what he means is he's threatening the advertisers. If you don't advertise with me you will lose this channel that he thinks is absolutely critical to them and they can't possibly do without which fits into his view that he's the grestest mam in the world. He should continue the streak and tell NASA to FO since without the government contracts SoaceX would be out of business overnight.
Spectacular, isn't it. I have never seen Musk so rattled. He is beginning to realise that not everyone thinks he is a genius and that is undermining everything he pins himself to. You can see him looking around desperately for support and confirmation as he speaks.
@@lexlayabout5757 there are still channels on RUclips praising his performance during this interview. People can't grasp that it isn't blackmail when advertisers leave Twitter, it's just capitalism at work. They no longer want to buy what he's selling, but because the customers happen to be big corporations, his fans don't seem to realise and think he's pulling some big brained anti establishment manoeuvre.
Dear Thunderf00t, i would love to see a video from you on the cybertruck show where they "gave them to their owners". The ball throw was a moment of insane comedic value. I also have a theory that one of the trucks broke down (it can be seen just sitting there in the end in the middle of the road) and thats why the other trucks had to akwardly reverse out of there and why the event has ended out of nowhere.
While I'm far from being the guy who will protect Musk, I believe the glass pane was not properly fastened to the frame. Now, that does not deduct from the comedic value, I agree, just meaning to say that the car is quite resistant to damage. That notwithstanding, it was hilarious.
Not only that, but you can clearly see how the guy (same guy as first time?) really tries to throw it so lose that even a baby would wonder what feather just touched it. @@thulyblu5486
nah it takes a big ego and zero brain and thats the result thats why other billionaires hire managers and other slaves to think for them cause the rich are too dumb to think its a system where it works cause it preys on desperation thats being rewarded for the owner and so the chain is self sustained
Dear Thunderf00t- I’ve been with you since 2006 and my awakening from magical thinking. You’ve taught me so much, and so well. You sir are an amazing resource and a credit not only to RUclips but unto the entire planet for people of goodwill. Thanks for this video and thanks for showing what a ‘good man’ actually looks like. Cheers.
Borrowing money for a large acquisition is not uncommon among wealthy individuals and corporations. Financing deals through a combination of debt and equity can be a strategic financial decision.
About ten years ago my partner was recruited by a prestigious organisation. Within a couple weeks of starting she realised that the environment was incredibly toxic - in part because she was a manager who was ten years younger than everyone else. She left after a few months. Not entirely sure why Linda Yaccarino is still hanging about unless he's paying her a crapload to present a modicum of normality to the world.
I have been waiting for this video, after musks perpetulant child act Tell you what. I want netflix doing a documentry on the old twitter exc's after Elon bought it. What a lottery win. What a party they are having. And imagine the drinking game. They have to have a party with Elons money everytime he does something stupid 🤣🤣🤣🤣
For billionaires and millionaires this is just a game, similar to monopoly. For them it's not a question of live or die. They can tank their business. It may not be smartest thing to do but they wont feel any consequence.
They might want to dub over that mention of Musk in Star Trek Discovery. When it aired, Musk was a bit of an eccentric but there was enough belief that he might actually pull off something incredible in time. Now he just looks like a madman and a walking textbook on everything not to do in life.
No fuck it their first season being bad is an homage to the classic Star Trek shows, If they're going to change the dated reference to musk they might as well get rid of the stupid fucking tardigrade thing from when the internet was obsessed with that.
@@FrancisR420 yeah you're right. Start messing with one thing and then ppl go too far, trying to "modernise" the whole show based on what they think the current times care about.
Love how Failon Husk can say he doesn't like advertisers and call it blackmail when someone reacts to his stupidity. It's almost like consequences exist now.
I hate Elon Musk and it’s not cope, but I have to correct you. Billionaires, when in need of liquid cash, borrow money because it’s economically reasonable to do so: selling assets is taxed to a higher capacity, than just borrowing cash *against* those same assets (because some totally „not” lobbed politician decided to not tax such process). So Elon’s borrowing cash for the purchase of Twitter, is probably the single smart thing Elon did during the whole process and it wasn’t (necessarily) motivated by a lack of cash, but rather it was a scheme of leveraged borrowing, used by all billionaires to evade taxation.
Yeah that makes sense.. They were fairly high interest loans I believe, especially the bridging loan (I think?) But likely still significantly better than paying the tax if he funded it all from selling assets.
@@r-pupz7032 You will be overpaying like a third of it or more in taxes. And the higher sum is, the faster these expenses rise up. And then banks come in wth more "favorable" deal. You still will be overpaying, but significantly less (especially on this scale), so its a win-win for both (good deal for rich kid, paying customer for a bank).
You can't tax borrowing money. The problem is interest rates have been too low and too much central bank money printing has been going on so boosting share prices. These both inflate the wealth of the already rich.
Yes, but they typically don't do it at 11% annual interest. You get such interest rates if the lenders believe what you are doing poses a very high risk of failing.
It really is astonishing - Musk, despite his "reputation" as a masterful business manager/ceo, really doesn't understand the business fundamentally, and has the product (users) and customers (advertisers) hopelessly confused. And he really seems to think he's some pious "free speech" warrior, FSW, and savoir of humanity. The mind boggles.
I once saw his ex girlfriend/wife Talulah Riley being interviewed while she was still with him.... The poor girl sounded like a cult follower, it was just sad to see.
some how im starting to realize how so many of these "intellectual" public figures are all so obsessed with creating a cult of personality around them. it's wild to see @@mnomadvfx
I don't know how he earned that "reputation." Every sentence I hear from his mouth is either a bold, unsubstantiated claim or a string of buzzwords that don't go together.
He's right that the whole world will know why the company fails, but it'll be because of him. Even if it was a bunch of advertising companies conspiring, nobody will care, it's just a website.
@bpdmf2798, Well, he's already said multiple times he doesn't care about the money, hasn't he? for him it's just experiments he enjoys making, Tesla was also a crazy move and it went almost bankrupt in the beginning, heck SpaceX is a wild and improbable undertaking too, that's how Musk operates, haven't you figured that out yet?
16:30 _"..and Twitter will immediately seek damages"_ If he hadn't laid of the legal department, a lawyer would have told him it appears he is admitting that if the truth about how he runs the company gets out, it will result in a financial loss and he'll go on to blame someone else for how he mismanages other people's inventions.
Elon Musk & this Twitter failure is a prime example of what happens to RUclips Movie Reviewers constantly. They are so quick to judge the movies & the people who make them. But majority can’t make anything profitable or better. They flop just as hard if not worse.
Its amazing how Elon can't think past 1 layer of depth. "If the company collapses because of an advertiser boycott, then its the advertisers fault." the obvious follow up question in his mind should be "What reason are they boycotting?" The obvious answer being... his own actions.
The whole time I’ve known about Twitter I could not come up with a good reason to sign on, figured I’d wait and see…it seems I avoided a bit of pain and wasted time. Still don’t think I’m missing anything.
Then he will be in billions of debt and Twitter or x will not be able to exist after few month, remember that, electricity to store data and locations for it to be stored safely to run globally all has a cost, even is he is able to remove all the human cost and things like that
Elon Musk is the ONLY one to ever sue Top Gear tv show for criticizing the autonomy of his car. It puzzles me how billions of people can believe Elon is defender of free speech...
The public doesn't give a fig who advertises on Twitter. I think you'd be hard pushed to find an average person whose response to Twitter disappearing was much more than "so what?"
A whole lot of people stand to lose from twitter disappearing. For freelance workers, for example, twitter was actually a really good place to tell their customer base about their developments, portfolios, etc, and even to get more customers. This idea that there was something inherently wrong with Twitter is just stupid. It's been the least problematic tech company around, and its death will change absolutely nothing about the stupid culture war that's going on, which is the actual problem we're having and that no one's pointing their fingers at (maybe because everyone's guilty of indulging in it).
2:25 The business which became IBM weren't so bothered about the Nazis when they were selling them tabulating machines in WW2. It was those punched card machines that the Nazis used to track the people they intended to exterminate.
This is exactly what I've been saying - Musk thinks he is saving humanity, but really he is just making a worse paywalled version of 4chan! 😅 Also for someone who is all about free speach, he sure does seem to forget that advertisers have free speach too 😅
@TheIzester nope, not even close. No one is stopping him from saying whatever he wants. If customers don't like it (which they dont), they have every right to vote with their wallets and take their business elsewhere (which they are). That's capitalism, baby! Also freedom of association is equally as important of a right as freedom of speech (even though people talk about it way less), just saying.
@@starblaiz1986 this would apply perfectly if Internet services in general weren't primarily run on advertisements. (long text ahead, dont let me hold you up) Let's go back a bit; I didn't say he was forbidden to speak his mind, I didn't say it was forbidden for his associates to cut ties with them if what he speaks is not to their liking. The point I've tried to make is that Web owners are severely financially punished for falling out of a line that advertisers unjustly dictate. Twitter (not gonna call it X fuck that), like the vast majority of the surface webs' pages, is financially dependent on advertisers to keep their site accessible to the public. I'm certain you've seen many a case in which a website practically begged you and/or its users to turn off adblock to ensure the longevity of the site you're visiting. The dependence is that strong. So as far as this majority of site owners are concerned, what happens when the financial lifeblood of their page chose to impose conditions onto them that, whereas should they not be met, the advertisers would immediately withdraw their services? You're met with a dilemma of choosing between obeying the new and any following conditions placed upon you OR being forced to pay out of pocket for your website, until you comply. For most Webpages and services, the latter is entirely unsustainable. The result is an environment in which advertisers may at will abuse the Internets' (or majority thereof) dependency on them to have their partners either only display what they approve of, or simply go out of business. Those who "survive" are therefore only those that are complicit with their conditions. I believe this is the case with many public websites, no less RUclips itself, see Adpocalypse, etc. Again, my point is that websites that go against any advertisers' demands are unjustly financially punished and therefore strongly compelled to align themselves with them, which is something that has no place in the concept of free speech.
I watched that interview. When Elon normally speaks its a bit like preaching to the converted. Elon is in a mixed room of converts and not. 16:36 There were several of these 'Mic drop' type of moments. Like this one, most of the Mic drops in this interview were followed by crickets and not the normal applause he's waiting for.
I agree with the spirit of Elon Musk, free speech should be absolute! The problem is the advertisers! The real problem is that like roads, free speech cannot be supported by private enterprise. In a incredible twist of irony, forums for true free speech need to be funded by the government. You know, like the BBC.
Genuinely curious, what are you so desperate to say that you feel you aren't allowed to? The people acting like they don't have free speech just seem to be mad that they can't be blatantly racist, trans and homophobic, and anti Semetic without getting told they're bad people. That's not restricted speech, that's just being an asshold and people telling you you're being an asshole. Advertisers choosing to not have their ads on a platform that's hosted by someone being transphobic and anti-Semetic seems like a VERY good example of free speech. BTW there is no world in which a government funded "free speech" forum works LMAO
@@_B_E People should be able to express whatever is on their mind, even if it is hateful or ignorant or extreme. Shutting that dialogue down doesn't make the issues go away, it just forces it to fester. Also YES a government funded forum WOULD work because unlike private enterprise, the government is actually bound by the rules of the First Amendment. If it's not illegal to say in public, then the Government can't censor it on the forum either. Or at least, I'm almost certain the Supreme Court would rule that speech cannot be moderated on a publicly funded forum if the issue came up in a lawsuit.
@@caseyb1346 You're so insanely out of touch that it's embarrassing. What dialogue is being shut down? Are you implying that because nobody wants to have a discussion about a toxic subject that the subject is being repressed? Racists and transphobes are welcome to talk as much as they like about a subject, just as people are welcome to not associate with those people. You seem to think that ignoring or distancing oneself from topics they don't like is removing their free speech. It is not. Brutally and thoroughly illustrating why they're wrong and insulting them also is not removing their free speech. You also seem to have a very disconnected concept of how the government treats it's people. We literally had, and very very likely still have the government using tools and programs to spy on people and put them on lists already, having a government hosted "forum" would magnify that by a significant amount. If you want to hop on a soapbox and talk about your most extreme opinions on a government hosted website, feel free, but thinking it's going to be a bastion of free speech is totally misguided. You've probably heard this, but just in case you haven't, freedom of speech is NOT freedom of consequence.
Imagine you give your kid an allowance for doing chores and then tell you to go spork yourself when you refuse to pay because instead of mopping the kitchen floor they pulled up the linoleum. That’s Elon.
My boss is blackmailing me. He is saying, if I don't show up to work, he won't pay me.
Grocery stores are blackmailing me. They're saying, if I don't pay them money, they won't provide me food.
My mortgage lender is blackmailing me. They're saying, if I don't pay them money, they will take my house.
My girlfriend is blackmailing me. She is saying, if I don't shower and do things with her, she will leave me.
Everyone is so evil! Since when do we have to give in order to receive?
5 years to bankruptcy may be the first time Elon delivers something within a predicted timeframe
Does it count if Elon didn't predict it?
Lmao
@@seanwhitehall4652 for Elon and the whole cult, it counts.
Damn that's a sick ass burn 😂
is he bankrupt yet?
It is always worth remembering that the only time in Elon’s professional life that he worked for a business he didn’t control he got fired within the first six months
Yeah, therefore starting his own business where he has control. What about it?
A real team player
@@3DisFuntastic - I think you're missing the point. Musk can't handle any situation where he doesn't have sufficient power to just steamroller any criticism. And that's made him both a) incapable of handling criticism, and b) much more worthy of criticism.
I think if we filmed Elon and Brie Larson eat lunch,
It could be one of the more unpleasant things ever put the film …
🎥 🦸♀️
For incompetence it should be mentioned.
I have never seen Musk so uncomforable before. He stammers, nods in agreement with himself, looks around for support all the time like a drowning man, and says random BS when challenged for an answer. He has done all of that before of course, but this time he looks very highly stressed. At 4:25 his collapse into incoherence is spectacular.
His fans and backers should be deserting him like rats from a sinking ship.
I wonder if this behavior coming from ketamine or some other drugs.
It's pretty par for the course whenever he's asked anything remotely critical
Shows how he's not very smart, the fact that there's incoherent thoughts show it's not all on a logical framework. Anyway I won't be left bagholding his B💩.
@magyararon6918 yes and he's never been smart
@@magyararon6918ketamine does that to people.
I cherish this man for having completely dismantled meritocracy as a main element in my understanding of the world.
Elon has done more for the promotion of socialism than many socialists. 😂
There's nothing at all wrong with a meritocracy, though. That's the problem: there _isn't_ any merit-based advancement in the world. Elon's super rich not because of any merit, but because he started out with a fortune and failed upwards, which is trivial to do with enough starting money. If you have enough money, you can buy the "right connections", and if you have the right connections, you can make even more money. There's nothing in there about merit, and in fact actual _merit_ is excluded by the established rich dumbasses who actively destroy anyone competent from taking their place.
Elon has shown that being rich is the exact opposite of being intelligent, and that has been a valuable lesson, but it's also a lesson that *nobody wants to freaking LEARN already.* In a sane world, Elon would've proposed his magical vacuum tube train ideas with the giant blower fan on the front and he'd have been quietly taken out back behind the shed and mercy-shot. Instead, he's allowed to continue while the sane world watches in shock and dismay, unable to do anything about him and his ilk, and are forced to see his decade-long self-destruction and treat it as a form of cheap entertainment while the world burns to ashes.
A meritocracy would be nice. What we have is nepotism and compound interest.
In theory there may be nothing wrong with meritocracy (I disagree, but whatever). The thing is it doesn't exist and cannot exist.
I think that was part of the point. That meritocracy in the mind of OP was dismantled as an idea. But your comment is spot on.@@EdwardHowton
meritocracy sadly is rarely applied . very rarely .
But but, Musk knows more about manufacturing than anybody else currently alive.
Sure, he can manufacture more BS per minute than anybody else currently alive!
Tesla production facilities are indeed way ahead of his competition.
This includes the car factories and the battery factories.
Tesla actually makes profit, unlike all the other electric car manufacturers.
@@yarpenzigrin1893 Those are only claims by Musk, so most likely they're lies.
@@yarpenzigrin1893the batteries are Panasonic tho
thats only because they had the capital to head hunt the global leaders in alot of tech development from the uk and Australia, all because of both nations conservative govs gouging funds from scientific developments@@yarpenzigrin1893
The arrogance to think the earth with even care that some social media platform died. They will move on to the next.
If there was any debate left that Elon Musk isn't an oversized toddler, let his war against the advertisers showcase why a debate is a joke.
"Now, Jonathan.. I'm only here because you're a friend"
"..I'm Andrew"
😂😂😂
Maybe Elon is becoming demented...
And don’t forget Elmo said “a good friend”😂
I was laughing so hard. I had to rewatch it over and over again. And again and again. Each time it got better and better. 😂
His simps are complete morons. End of story. And this is why he is where he is. Cuz he listens to them. And they love, and think he’s a “genius”.
Let the dumpster fire begin. 😂
@@momwithaplan1287 "Let the dumpster fire begin." What do you mean by "begin?"
@@tdylan
"Begin" to get even worse?
You know the guy was getting annoyed at all the soft balls he was throwing at Elon, only to hasn't him continue to be a jackass.
If Elon wasn't turning the whole interview into a circus Sorkin likely would not have fact checked him in front of a live audience.
Musk @9:00 : _"If the company fails because of an advertisers' boycott, it will fail because of an advertisers' boycott"_ . Who else in the world could have realised this profound truth? To hear such pearls wisdom gives us a tanalising glimpse of the inner workings of a brain the size of a planet.
Sorry to be pedantic, but you misspelled "brain". It's spelled, in this case, "e g o".
Hmm, the floor here is made of floor.
I stepped back in amazement at the genius of the statement
But what boycott? The advertisers weren’t organizing to force him to change. They were leaving because what Mux was offering them wasn’t what they wanted. Try this: 1) buy a popular restaurant. 2) substitute plastic food for the real food that was on the menu. 3) When customers stop patronizing your business and going to restaurants that serve real food, complain about a boycott.
It’s probably part of his narcissistic pathology to blame “them” (a shadowy cabal) for attacking him, when he is only thwarting himself. But I don’t know. Elon Mux’s fascinating psychology gets boring really quickly.
All those TV shows referring to Musk as a genius aren't gonna age well! 🤣🤣🤣
That's what you get for wanting to incorporate a story into your fiction before said story is completely written.
And when you blindly follow the media hype instead of doing your own research. Then again, the one time they actually bothered researching something, they got sued for plagiarism, so yeah. Modern Trek has no business calling itself Star Trek, IMHO.
@@EvenTheDogAgreesmodern Trek is fine. They just said Musk which can refer to many people not just Elon.
There's an episode of Young Sheldon where they stroke off Elon Musk...... About landing rocket boosters. Some NASA engineer can't explain to young Sheldon why rocket boosters can't be landed after launch. The whole time I'm shouting at the TV, "BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO CARRY EXTRA FUEL YOU DOPES! YOU CAN'T TAKE AS MUCH TO SPACE! DIMINISHED PAYLOAD! IT'S NOT THAT EXPENSIVE TO GO GET A BOOSTER OUT OF THE OCEAN WHEN YOU'RE ALREADY SPENDING MILLIONS OF $$ ON THE LAUNCH!!!" My eyes were rolling uncontrollably.
@@gapsule2326 Who said the problem I have is merely them mentioning Musk?
It'll be funny when they overdub that part on future versions and change his name to DeGrass or anyone else.
One thing: Twitter users aren't the customers. They're the product. The advertisers are the customers, they're the ones paying for the service.
Ding ding ding, that's the one. If you're not paying for a product then you are the product!
...and the blue check folk are the drawcards. Stephen King was right when he said "Charge us $20? WTF? We're the reason people show up!", and ol' Muskie still didn't get it by replying "$8?". What a genius!
The Twitter users are also a part of the customer base. They are exchanging their eyeball time for the interesting content that Twitter provides.
So when you make the platform a vile cesspit, you lose users. Fewer users equals a smaller user base to monetize.
He's screwing himself both ways.
Yep. And they're the one stable genius Elon chose to insult.
@@j.f.christ8421It's hilarious how such a massive decision by a multi billion dollar company was made on a whim based on a twitter argument with Stephen King LOL
Props to the interviewer for doubling down with a polite and sincerely curious "but there is a reality too?" I guess he was not expecting this, as most media treat him like god and when he drops such an amazeballs cooler than ice "F.U." they would just laugh with him making deer eyes and ask the next question about why he is so genius.
He said "F.Y"
I am only pointing this out because you said it like EVERYONE in the world says it "F.U" and he said "F.Y" what even is that?!
@@jackcollins7061 oh haha, my brain must have auto-corrected his rubbish, thanks for pointing out 🤣🤣
@@jackcollins7061 G.F.Y
@@jackcollins7061 I'm pretty sure said GFY I think we just didn't hear the G because he said it when the interviewer was speaking. He say's it twice is only reason I'm sure of this. First he said "Go Fucg Yourself" than he said "GFY" and the interviewer was asking a follow up I'm pretty sure before he finished the follow up question Elon already said the "G" and when he stops speaking we hear "FY".
@@Wallyworld30 you're right. Cheers for being better ears.
The look of disbelief on the host's face when musk says "we are friends"
It's like he's thinking "really? When did this happen?"
I'd say the disbelief has more to do with all the other stuff Musk has said at that point and maybe also to an extent the fact he calls him "Jonathan".
@@Case_ Whats wrong with you? nobody likes those hosts but every guest will tell the audience that they know and like each other.
Thats how those shows are made.
@@nox5555 I have no idea why you are telling me this, sorry. (Or why you are so needlessly confrontational, for that matter.)
@@Case_ It's just Elon googling his name again. Don't worry about it, he's in every comment section.
Imagine he just looked at his paper with all these questions about how Elon is a failure
Our head of marketing is actually an elon fangirl... and even she put an end to advertising on twitter months ago.
It takes a lot of strength to do it
Better start running away
i"m sure you can reach more loyal customers by advertising on gab
The funniest part about this is seeomg all the empty corporate suits who all looked up to Musky, one by one, get Musked themselves. Finally a tiny little flicker of a lightbulb goes off in their heads. "Oh."
@@marklatimer7333Are you a child?
This is the definition of cutting off your nose to spite your face. I wouldn't willingly touch any product this man has anything to do with. His investors must be so proud!
It's like Elon thinks that X is the only platform those companies can advertise on. Alternate platforms for advertising exist, here are some of them: Radio, TV, Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, RUclips, Google... all those companies can advertise there.
And the same capital collectively decides whether a platforms content is acceptable or not - interestingly, in unison. We used to call those cartels. Perhaps we should acknowledge there's a cartel on public discourse, one step removed but no less effective. And fight back.
@@aarrcchhoonntt The way to fight back is decentralization and decommercialization. Advertiser boycotts help with the decommercialization part, but decentralization has to follow or the platform will eventually lack the resources to sustain itself. Decentralizing Xitter means Musk would have to remove himself from power, which is antithetical to everything he lives for.
He's the smartest person in the universe. He knows more about everything than everybody who ever lived put together. He can bend steel with his eyeballs.
He needs to because the body panels on Cybertruck destroy the stamping dies /s
@@creamwobbly They look flat, but remember that a single panel with two flat faces and a crease in the middle...still has a crease in the middle.
@@creamwobbly They are flat on the outside but not on the inside. They were supposed to be flat on both sides but they decided to go with stamping for manufacturing reasons. At least that's what I heard.
LOl imagine being this butthurt that he allows some free speech on twitter 🫵🤣
Can he see why kids love Cinnamon Toast Crunch?
Even Raid Shadow Legends doesnt want to advertise on X.
"Advertisers will have killed X, and everyone will know!" Finally advertisers will have done some good in the world
Usually I skip ads but I'm going to let this one play
Oh it's 3 minutes fuck that
And nobody will care & life will keep right on going along.
Bankruptcy will be the one thing he delivers ahead of schedule
😂😂
Looking at Elon's decisions in the last months, Twitter still has a lot of momentum (e.g. active users).
So if Twitter goes down, Elon might also be late.
He'll have money and assets hidden away unfortunately. I wouldn't trust him to run the local corner shop.
No,i think he can turn things the way that others will holding the bag!Make an ipo of X the amazing future everything app and an ipo of SpaceX and Starlink and Tesla fanboy investor will blindly invest in it!Alsi some crazy rightwing extremists will give him money for X
Active users ≠ money@@jochenkraus7016
Imagine being his assistant (or handler), sitting backstage and going "no, Elon, no, please shut up" and watching numbers go down like crazy.
He either doesn't have an assistant or he shrugged them off long ago. You can tell because if you zoom in closely you can see he missed a spot shaving under his jaw.
No assistant would let him go on television like that. One or more people always look you over before any appearance on stage like that. He very likely brushed them away. He doesn't take advice in any form apparently.
i think you mix musk with biden
just to make you aware
this is not a video about biden
Then that poor assistant had to meet him back stage, smile and say "Oh you did great boss. You made some great points".
Then Linda Yaccarino got into her car and cried all the way back to the hotel.
You know the weirdest thing about Elon? He's never once given credit to anyone who works for him for anything...
Typical Narcissistic behaviour
I like how Musk thinks the "world" gives a damn about the fate of Twitter.
His world is right wing twitter trolls.
thats right, nobody cared about that, but now Musk have inserted Twitter in the middle of culture wars and all the people the "anti wokes" will now be happy to pay for twitter :D
@@blackguy-ij7ij
Yeah he definitely went down the rightwing rabbit hole.
Problem is he sells LEFTWING cars 😂
@@blackguy-ij7ij The right wing trolls won't give a shit about Twitter after it goes under, nor will anyone else. They will move on, leaving Musk muttering into his beer about where he went wrong. Who today gives shit about what happened to Compuserve or countless other former internet companies, apart from IT historians?
@@blackguy-ij7ij except the only ones who actually give any Fs about Twitter are left wing extremists and porn addicts...
Thunderf00t we need a scientific deep dive on the difference between throwing a steel ball and a baseball at the window of the cyber truck 😂 it was comedy gold seeing them redo the test with a soft ball at the recent unveiling
"Glass is glass, and glass breaks"
- Agent 47, probably
And the gentlest softball lob I think I've ever seen, at that.
I need a psychologist to delve into the intricacies of what it says about Elon that 4 years later he's not only "not gotten over it, or at least moved past it," but he's still so bothered by it that he convinced himself the demo with the softball would somehow absolve and vindicate him of the failure with the metal ball. I wouldn't be surprised if after the softball display, he went back stage grinning ear to ear, giving high fives to sycophants saying "see? I told you! I told them! I sure showed them!" While those around him smiled in return "you sure did, Elon! Great job!"
Just like the Hyperloop, I suppose... 'It's really not that hard.' ;)
I noticed this myself and was waiting for him to be called out on it
It amazes me that Elon actually thinks the world gives a #$%& if his daft platform goes belly up.
they did before now all of the sudden they dont show us more of the pettyness of the left.
We really don't 😂😂😂
@@ricardomeertens9165 The pettiness of the left? You have right wing people who won’t even bake a cake for some homos, but I’m supposed to be… what, outraged on behalf of a billionaire not getting richer?
LMFAO. Never in my life will I lick boots that dirty. Stand up, son. Straighten your spine and get some dignity. Good lord.
The comments section is as nuts as always. A couple of points:
1. There is no blackmail here. If you have a service, like twitter, that allows advertising, you in no way can make advertisers use your service. They will only do so if that makes more money for them than that advertising costs. If company X's customers don't like using twitter, it's not worth advertising on. Full stop. It does not matter how or why people aren't using twitter- if the customers aren't there, neither is the advertising dollars.
2. Freedom of speech only applies to censorship by the government. Twitter is not the government nor is it run by the government. It's a publicly owned conpany. Twittet can selectively choose who gets to use, who gets to see what, and who gets what kind of adds displayed. Freedom of speach arguments on privately owned platforms are 100% pointless. If you think you are not being heard on that platform, don't use it.
3. Even if freedom of speech laws applied to a company, which they don't, but if they did it still does not prevent people from disagreeing with you or calling you an idiot based on what you are posting.
Musk is an idiot that is publicly shooting himself in the foot. He's not suddenly some kind of right wing freedom of speech activist. He's a bad business owner trying to play upon what many view as the easiest to manipulate and con demographic in the country. Anyone supporting him becuase he's now antisemitic or anti government is just another victim of his con, just like everybody investing in his dumb ideas have done for over a decade at this point.
He doesn’t like free speech, he doesn’t like free market, what a gem. And now he’s raging like a spoiled brat.
You are wrong about the free speech argument, you can now speak freely on Twitter without being banned for saying something they don't like. 3-4 years ago, before Elon bought it, you could be banned for saying men cannot be women or wearing a mask during covid is stupid and won't do anything or quoting the Bible and I could go on and on..
By refusing to limit discourse on a public forum he is against free speech? Did you have a stroke?
@@aarrcchhoonntt Because, according to US law, companies are literally people. So he is trying to limit the companies' free speech to....not advertise on his platform.
Today Elon will ban you for calling people "cis", i.e. for calling men men and women women.@@Holycurative9610
@judetravers Any excuse to rationalize their personal biases against the man.
I think this channel is just about at the end of its useful lifetime.
The amount of autofellatio is utterly pathetic.
is he talking about himself - "looking good while doing evil" (lying all the time in his case)
Yes
I don’t get why people admire Elon.
Because he pwns the libs and makes his boys feel strong
I think it's partly because he has money and they want money, and they think admiring him will somehow make that happen.
But it's also because a world where someone can be that rich and powerful while being demonstrably incompetent, inept and just a generally awful human being is a depressing world, so people kind of go into denial and decide that there must be some hidden virtue to him that we'll find as long as we study the orb hard enough.
$$$$$
Because he puts morality before money. Read the tweet he responded to if you think he did something bad.
@@shaunpatrick8345 Billionaires are the most immoral people on Earth.
When he announced he was buying twitter, I had hoped it was with the intension of destroying it for the good of all mankind...turns out this may be closer to the truth than expected.
Can we... Can we just stop with the mental gymnastics. I'm sorry but it's pretty clear as of right now his goal was never and will never be to shut Twitter down.
If that was his goal if that was truly his goal. He should have dissolved the company and took down the servers day one. If he wanted to end Twitter that _is_ what he would have done. End of discussion. Doing anything else means it was explicitly not his goal to end Twitter. Even if his future actions result in Twitter ending.
No do not try to say "well he is thinking of employee welfare" bullshit. That didn't stop him laying off half his staff upon taking over.
You are basically trying to say a toddler meant to wet their bed as some kind of performative art piece on post modern colonialism. For fucks sake. You are not clever, Musk isn't playing ND chess, and he most certainly isn't acting with humanities best interest at heart.
We get the added benefit of the end of Musk -two birds with one stone.
After being heartily booed at Dave Chappelle's show earlier this year when he was clearly expecting to receive fawning adoration, you'd think he would understand that he's not seen as some savior of mankind anymore.
I think that Twitter needs to beware since this advertiser pause by their big customers is an opportunity for those advertisers to see what the return on their previous advertising really was. If they see no significant decrease in their business without advertising on Twitter during this pause, they may choose never to return regardless of changes in Twitter that might be made to appease them. That will be interesting to see if that information is available to see in 6 months time or so.
After telling them to GFY, i think it will be more than a pause.
This is the problem. THEY ALREADY KNEW THIS. A marketing guy last year had a very insightful article where he talked about how NO ONE marketed on Twitter because it was a good ROI. They mainly spent there because they had relationships with their ad executives, and they committed small amounts of their budgets to twitter ads. The fact that they had NO problem pulling out completely and permanently almost immediately after he fired everyone, basically WAS them realizing how they never needed to spend money there, so they stopped. Elon is already in deep shit because the advertisers he lost are not coming back. They have no reason to. Twitter ads did not really translate into sales.
Love how Elon put on his bomber jacket and dogtag before he bombed himself on stage.
I love how outside of this geeks echo chamber Musk got massive support
@@mrnobodytheuser2950 Sure, from far right Putin lovin’ nutjobs.
@@mrnobodytheuser2950 the fact that you are proud of this is just.....well.....hahahahaha......
When his answers get stuttery, he just realized he screwed up badly. Time to double down!
It sounded cooler in his head.
All that stuttering is just more evidence of 'super genius'.
Thats how he always talks
@@stretch654 Ah, but he has you beat with misdirection. The _real_ genius is the doubling down when he can clearly see how badly he messed it this time.
His other dumpster fire, SpaceX, just released a video on YT clearly showing him and others going crazy with glee and high fives twice, when each of his two stages of spacecraft blew up. He shows each explosion with enhanced quality and a music track, then cuts to himself going "YEAHHH!!!" 😀 and double high-fiving the nearest engineer.
@mipmipmipmipmip But to what end? In the same interview, he admits he's trying to sink the company: "What it's gonna do, it's gonna kill the company!" Then nods assuredly. Check out his facial flourish at 7:29.
Are you saying sinking the company was his intent from the start? 'Cause from my angle it very much looks like he suddenly realized his choice of words was a big mistake, but doubled down because he figured it'd be an even bigger mistake to admit to the customers and debt-holders, and potential future ones, that he made such a huge mistake.
6:06 That's an interesting take to go into bankruptcy court with. Heck, it's gotta work better than reminding the judge that there's video from an NYT interview where it becomes abundantly clear that he has zero understanding of his own business model ("Screw those advertisers, who needs them? They were just blackmailing me with their rotten money.").
Red Dwarf references. A man of culture I see.
red dwarf is lame.
@@greatleader4841even your great leader Elon likes red dwarf, you smeghead.
thats what makes it so good@@greatleader4841
oh!
@@greatleader4841
@@greatleader4841what
You should watch Patrick Boyle's analysis of why Musk's claim that Twitter is going to be 'half the global financial market' is not just delusional, but deeply stupid. He addresses why western countries have already rejected the Chinese model that Musk seems to believe he can recreate on Twitter.
Yup Patrick's video is often very good and insightful.
Western countries are parasites that are going to be irrelevant soon enough, they don't produce resources, they don't produce manifactured products, they are just parasites that have been plundering the world for centuries and luckily the global south is gonna see justice and the west will be punished.
The most egregious western countries such as UK and the US will cease to exist, they'll be balkanized.
Elon to Advertisers: Don't want to give me money? That's blackmail!
Also Elon: Give me money or I'll shadow ban you
I'm starting to think this Elon guy might not have the business acumen that he claims to have.
The world according to Elon Musk is: Elon Musk can do whatever *he* wants but *others* are *not* allowed to do what they want.
The way he looked into the distance when he said the public is the judge. He really thought he said something so profound.
"Let them vote with their dollars! I don't care! ... but *people* will care"
Pathetic.
Wow. I never saw the interview, but wow. I've got several friends in my life that I've known over 16 years.. not sure I could be made to forget any of their names however. It seems as though Musk has gotten himself thunderstruck again.
It's worth watching entirely. So many gems. The interviewer is a complete bootlicker and yet Elon manages to come off so badly, it's incredible.
The moment he mentions his "design" for an electric VTOL jet is my favourite.
Elon’s enduring tell is he’s always stuttering and stammering when he’s either lying or “being evil”….
or when he's high AF on Adderall
Its telling I've never heard him not stammer
@@MrTaxiRob He was certainly on something during the interview.. He is only here because he said he would and they are friends yet didn't know the guys name.
50% Women and 50% ethnic people? No men then unless bunched in with the ethnic people?
@@WhiteDieselShed You could have that with 25% non-ethnic men. Women and Ethnic can overlap too.
@@WhiteDieselShed We have a lot of public sectors in my country that needs workers and we have competent people who apply for the jobs but get rejection after rejection. It turns out after some journalistic digging that people are being rejected because of diversity quotas that are enforced by the government. Even though the employer is desperate for hands. They are also not allowed to specifically search for people of ethnicity or gender in job listings even though it's litterally the only thing they want.
And then of course there are sectors were quota ideals runs rampant and were they would rather let the whole system fail than to hire someone for their merits.
I am just glad he went off the rails with twitter before someone actually gave him an important position in power
I can't tell if you're being sarcastic here cause that's definitely not the case. California has decimated it's plans for public high speed rail in part due to his claims about the hyperloop, Biden made major changes to ev charging station infrastructure programs b/c of the concentration of Tesla charging stations, NASA relies exclusively on spacex for satellite in space station launches, starlink is so crutial to Ukrainian defense that dod personnel had to go kiss his ass in person in hope he wouldn't just shut it off in the middle of a battle b/c some random thing irked him personally & much more.
But it terrifies me & should terrify everyone else that he is involved in national security through SpaceX & Starlink. He did it to Ukraine with Starlink & will do it to the US unless he is sidelined. This guy is scrambled & not to be trusted with anything.
And to think our PM in the UK was only a few weeks ago interviewing him as if he was a God😂
To be fair, we are due our next PM shortly.
God of conning maybe
@@SilverMKI your not wrong
@@floriandanzinger6027 💯
incompetence 🤝 incompetence
I think asking Elon whether he’d keep the company running with his own resources was a good move by the interviewer. He probably understands that he doesn’t have the cash. If he had said “yes,” that would say a lot about the value of Tesla.
Problem is that the 'value' of Tesla is fluid to its stock price.
Elon didn't even buy Twitter outright because liquedating enough shares to pay for it would have cost him his majority (controlling) shareholder position.
If the market suddenly wakes up to the fact that Tesla isn't so great that super hi stock value will drop off a cliff and if Musk doesn't sell out fast enough his net worth will evaporate with it.
Musk is the only person who can make Rimmer look sane and likeable.
What a smeg'ead!
What a guy!
How dare you compare this guy to ace
@@crwydryny 🎶
"He's Arnold, Arnold, Arnold Rimmer.
More reliable than a garden strimmer.
He's never been mistaken for Yul Brynner,
He's not bald, and his head doesn't glimmer."
🎶
Even Rimmer had some positive qualities and a redemption arc.
In his interviews, Musk keeps saying stuff and looking at the crowd in a hopeful way for applause.
I really think, from his pov, when he says that without advertising the company wrote a business what he means is he's threatening the advertisers. If you don't advertise with me you will lose this channel that he thinks is absolutely critical to them and they can't possibly do without which fits into his view that he's the grestest mam in the world. He should continue the streak and tell NASA to FO since without the government contracts SoaceX would be out of business overnight.
I find it incredible that his fan base can't see he's having a real time breakdown in full view of the public.
Spectacular, isn't it. I have never seen Musk so rattled. He is beginning to realise that not everyone thinks he is a genius and that is undermining everything he pins himself to. You can see him looking around desperately for support and confirmation as he speaks.
What strikes me is how fast he is visibly aging...
@@lexlayabout5757 there are still channels on RUclips praising his performance during this interview. People can't grasp that it isn't blackmail when advertisers leave Twitter, it's just capitalism at work. They no longer want to buy what he's selling, but because the customers happen to be big corporations, his fans don't seem to realise and think he's pulling some big brained anti establishment manoeuvre.
will x exists 10 years from now ?
@@vanhuvanhuvese2738 not sure it'll exist 10 months from now
Dear Thunderf00t, i would love to see a video from you on the cybertruck show where they "gave them to their owners". The ball throw was a moment of insane comedic value. I also have a theory that one of the trucks broke down (it can be seen just sitting there in the end in the middle of the road) and thats why the other trucks had to akwardly reverse out of there and why the event has ended out of nowhere.
The Semi also due a revisit. Bait and switch, bait and switch.
Yeah I facepalmed when they repeated the steel ball window throw by.... throwing a regular baseball...
While I'm far from being the guy who will protect Musk, I believe the glass pane was not properly fastened to the frame. Now, that does not deduct from the comedic value, I agree, just meaning to say that the car is quite resistant to damage. That notwithstanding, it was hilarious.
Not only that, but you can clearly see how the guy (same guy as first time?) really tries to throw it so lose that even a baby would wonder what feather just touched it. @@thulyblu5486
@mipmipmipmipmipwhat you just said is pure nonsense
Being at the right place at the right time is vastly *under* rated. That’s the Musk story; epilogue comin’ up
And not a moment too soon...
Woody Allen once said 80% of success is showing up. Being lucky is probably the rest.
*right parents, right place, right time.
Without his starter money he wouldn't have managed any of it very likely.
Being a screw-up expert is a kind of a skill
nah it takes a big ego and zero brain and thats the result
thats why other billionaires hire managers and other slaves to think for them cause the rich are too dumb to think its a system where it works cause it preys on desperation thats being rewarded for the owner and so the chain is self sustained
Would love to have your life rather than be a screw-up like Elon.....lol
@@markmercieca5569 So would Elon. The Saudis won't be looking for this guy.
I can’t wait for Linda Yaccarino to write a book about the crazy sh*t she experienced at twitters.
Dear Thunderf00t- I’ve been with you since 2006 and my awakening from magical thinking. You’ve taught me so much, and so well. You sir are an amazing resource and a credit not only to RUclips but unto the entire planet for people of goodwill. Thanks for this video and thanks for showing what a ‘good man’ actually looks like. Cheers.
Borrowing money for a large acquisition is not uncommon among wealthy individuals and corporations. Financing deals through a combination of debt and equity can be a strategic financial decision.
Truly, one of today’s thinkers. The businessman of all time.
All time and space consentrated in that one man. A black hole killing everything he touches.
*One of the businessman of all time.
X = 4chan 2.0
@@larryc1616
$8Chan
About ten years ago my partner was recruited by a prestigious organisation. Within a couple weeks of starting she realised that the environment was incredibly toxic - in part because she was a manager who was ten years younger than everyone else. She left after a few months.
Not entirely sure why Linda Yaccarino is still hanging about unless he's paying her a crapload to present a modicum of normality to the world.
I have been waiting for this video, after musks perpetulant child act
Tell you what. I want netflix doing a documentry on the old twitter exc's after Elon bought it. What a lottery win. What a party they are having. And imagine the drinking game. They have to have a party with Elons money everytime he does something stupid 🤣🤣🤣🤣
- And Johnathan the only reason I'm here is because you're a friend. Like, what was my speaking fee?
- First of all, I'm Andrew
I laughed so much
For billionaires and millionaires this is just a game, similar to monopoly. For them it's not a question of live or die. They can tank their business. It may not be smartest thing to do but they wont feel any consequence.
We've got to stop expecting logical rational decisions from actual insane people
also from people who are seemingly always high
Musk and Trump are from the same box.
@@user-nh5ew9ck4z What is kanye
They might want to dub over that mention of Musk in Star Trek Discovery. When it aired, Musk was a bit of an eccentric but there was enough belief that he might actually pull off something incredible in time. Now he just looks like a madman and a walking textbook on everything not to do in life.
Don't really see the need, ST Discovery was a travesty so it fits quite well.
Maybe he's a hero of the Terran Empire.
No fuck it their first season being bad is an homage to the classic Star Trek shows, If they're going to change the dated reference to musk they might as well get rid of the stupid fucking tardigrade thing from when the internet was obsessed with that.
@@FrancisR420 yeah you're right. Start messing with one thing and then ppl go too far, trying to "modernise" the whole show based on what they think the current times care about.
Love how Failon Husk can say he doesn't like advertisers and call it blackmail when someone reacts to his stupidity.
It's almost like consequences exist now.
I dont like Disney and Apple, but after they suspended ads from Musk Twitter i will consider buying their product.
I hate Elon Musk and it’s not cope, but I have to correct you. Billionaires, when in need of liquid cash, borrow money because it’s economically reasonable to do so: selling assets is taxed to a higher capacity, than just borrowing cash *against* those same assets (because some totally „not” lobbed politician decided to not tax such process).
So Elon’s borrowing cash for the purchase of Twitter, is probably the single smart thing Elon did during the whole process and it wasn’t (necessarily) motivated by a lack of cash, but rather it was a scheme of leveraged borrowing, used by all billionaires to evade taxation.
Yeah that makes sense.. They were fairly high interest loans I believe, especially the bridging loan (I think?) But likely still significantly better than paying the tax if he funded it all from selling assets.
@@r-pupz7032 You will be overpaying like a third of it or more in taxes. And the higher sum is, the faster these expenses rise up. And then banks come in wth more "favorable" deal. You still will be overpaying, but significantly less (especially on this scale), so its a win-win for both (good deal for rich kid, paying customer for a bank).
You can't tax borrowing money. The problem is interest rates have been too low and too much central bank money printing has been going on so boosting share prices. These both inflate the wealth of the already rich.
Indeed. "Buy, Borrow, Die" Is a very well known strategy for billionaires to dodge taxes.
Yes, but they typically don't do it at 11% annual interest. You get such interest rates if the lenders believe what you are doing poses a very high risk of failing.
I genuinely want to thank you for not including any sycophants screaming 'woo' at him.
He didnt get any 'woos' in that interview. It was so pathetic, he made cringe statements that only he laughed at while the audience was dead silent 😂😂
Safety is of utmost importance, so please do not take any unnecessary risks
Your car: _'You are experiencing a car accident.'_
It is a good morning when a new Thunderfoot vid drops. Great stuff!
for small people who enjoy petty things
He is the next “Just say no” poster boy.
It really is astonishing - Musk, despite his "reputation" as a masterful business manager/ceo, really doesn't understand the business fundamentally, and has the product (users) and customers (advertisers) hopelessly confused. And he really seems to think he's some pious "free speech" warrior, FSW, and savoir of humanity. The mind boggles.
I once saw his ex girlfriend/wife Talulah Riley being interviewed while she was still with him....
The poor girl sounded like a cult follower, it was just sad to see.
some how im starting to realize how so many of these "intellectual" public figures are all so obsessed with creating a cult of personality around them. it's wild to see @@mnomadvfx
I don't know how he earned that "reputation." Every sentence I hear from his mouth is either a bold, unsubstantiated claim or a string of buzzwords that don't go together.
@@Grauenwolf Did...did that really happen?
"We attack tomorrow... under cover... of daylight." Brilliant!
He's right that the whole world will know why the company fails, but it'll be because of him. Even if it was a bunch of advertising companies conspiring, nobody will care, it's just a website.
I thought is was an App, but I never went near it, ever.
@bpdmf2798, Well, he's already said multiple times he doesn't care about the money, hasn't he? for him it's just experiments he enjoys making, Tesla was also a crazy move and it went almost bankrupt in the beginning, heck SpaceX is a wild and improbable undertaking too, that's how Musk operates, haven't you figured that out yet?
"If RUclips could survive Adpocalypse twice, X can surely survive it's own Adpocalypse." The inner thoughts of Elon
Difference is google and RUclips responded for better or worse.
Elon did the double middle finger while walking backwards into desks and chairs.
@@trizkit995 the first thing he did was fire all of twitters staff I'm not surprised this is happening.
16:30 _"..and Twitter will immediately seek damages"_
If he hadn't laid of the legal department, a lawyer would have told him it appears he is admitting that if the truth about how he runs the company gets out, it will result in a financial loss and he'll go on to blame someone else for how he mismanages other people's inventions.
Elon Musk & this Twitter failure is a prime example of what happens to RUclips Movie Reviewers constantly.
They are so quick to judge the movies & the people who make them. But majority can’t make anything profitable or better. They flop just as hard if not worse.
Its amazing how Elon can't think past 1 layer of depth.
"If the company collapses because of an advertiser boycott, then its the advertisers fault."
the obvious follow up question in his mind should be
"What reason are they boycotting?"
The obvious answer being... his own actions.
You expect white South Africans of his generation to think clearly about boycott?
The copium is strong in Musk in that interview.
He's off his rocker on copium, and ketamine of course. Dude was having a hissy fit.
0:57 - Musk's head moving makes me think about muppets, yk?
He's reached his design limitations
It's definitely coming. Count on it with popcorn.
Here is an achievement that Elon can _honestly_ claim credit for.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Twitter might go down? Finally some good news. Good job Elon 👍
Here, here!
Step 1-buy twitter
Step 2-realize twitter was already hemorrhaging money and was going to bankrupt with or without elon. He just made it faster.
Pretty much, lol.
Important information to cover. I love that you cover it thunderfoot. I don't love that you repeat yourself a dozen times in every video.
The whole time I’ve known about Twitter I could not come up with a good reason to sign on, figured I’d wait and see…it seems I avoided a bit of pain and wasted time. Still don’t think I’m missing anything.
I signed up to follow Bernie Sanders when he was running haven't used it since
Well, doing ketamine regularly does impact your intellect, and it shows.
Besides, just look at him, and tell me he's not a junkie
I've had it once in the hospital for a severe injury and it was heaven...
If he was a true philanhtropist and wanted to protect free speech, he would make twitter for non profit.
Then he will be in billions of debt and Twitter or x will not be able to exist after few month, remember that, electricity to store data and locations for it to be stored safely to run globally all has a cost, even is he is able to remove all the human cost and things like that
And you're saying he hasn't done that ?
@@bencahill3547 Yes
It's nothing to do with free speech and all that nonsense. He's just a fool with massive delusions of granduer
Elon Musk is the ONLY one to ever sue Top Gear tv show for criticizing the autonomy of his car.
It puzzles me how billions of people can believe Elon is defender of free speech...
so are we done with cool science stuff and now just a Musk channel?
The public doesn't give a fig who advertises on Twitter. I think you'd be hard pushed to find an average person whose response to Twitter disappearing was much more than "so what?"
If anything, it is a good thing
@@kat3325why? Because people are free to express themselves?
@@alienprepper5918because Twitter is the online equivalent of terminal stage cancer
A whole lot of people stand to lose from twitter disappearing. For freelance workers, for example, twitter was actually a really good place to tell their customer base about their developments, portfolios, etc, and even to get more customers. This idea that there was something inherently wrong with Twitter is just stupid. It's been the least problematic tech company around, and its death will change absolutely nothing about the stupid culture war that's going on, which is the actual problem we're having and that no one's pointing their fingers at (maybe because everyone's guilty of indulging in it).
@@dude30000 Biden warned us about the far right. They are car jacking and murdering people all over the country.
2:25 The business which became IBM weren't so bothered about the Nazis when they were selling them tabulating machines in WW2. It was those punched card machines that the Nazis used to track the people they intended to exterminate.
This is exactly what I've been saying - Musk thinks he is saving humanity, but really he is just making a worse paywalled version of 4chan! 😅 Also for someone who is all about free speach, he sure does seem to forget that advertisers have free speach too 😅
if your business subsists off people who tell you what you can and cant say thats compelled speech though
@TheIzester nope, not even close. No one is stopping him from saying whatever he wants. If customers don't like it (which they dont), they have every right to vote with their wallets and take their business elsewhere (which they are). That's capitalism, baby! Also freedom of association is equally as important of a right as freedom of speech (even though people talk about it way less), just saying.
@@starblaiz1986 this would apply perfectly if Internet services in general weren't primarily run on advertisements.
(long text ahead, dont let me hold you up)
Let's go back a bit;
I didn't say he was forbidden to speak his mind, I didn't say it was forbidden for his associates to cut ties with them if what he speaks is not to their liking.
The point I've tried to make is that Web owners are severely financially punished
for falling out of a line that advertisers unjustly dictate.
Twitter (not gonna call it X fuck that), like the vast majority of the surface webs' pages, is financially dependent on advertisers to keep their site accessible to the public. I'm certain you've seen many a case in which a website practically begged you and/or its users to turn off adblock to ensure the longevity of the site you're visiting. The dependence is that strong.
So as far as this majority of site owners are concerned, what happens when the financial lifeblood of their page chose to impose conditions onto them that, whereas should they not be met, the advertisers would immediately withdraw their services?
You're met with a dilemma of choosing between obeying the new and any following conditions placed upon you OR being forced to pay out of pocket for your website, until you comply.
For most Webpages and services, the latter is entirely unsustainable.
The result is an environment in which advertisers may at will abuse the Internets' (or majority thereof) dependency on them to have their partners either only display what they approve of, or simply go out of business. Those who "survive" are therefore only those that are complicit with their conditions. I believe this is the case with many public websites, no less RUclips itself, see Adpocalypse, etc.
Again, my point is that websites that go against any advertisers' demands are unjustly financially punished and therefore strongly compelled to align themselves with them, which is something that has no place in the concept of free speech.
Seems as though Disney has been doing their fair share of alienating their main fan based customers too though
at this point, Elon Musk understands more about business than anyone on the planet. truly a magnificent Genius
Your irony is even more awesome than your username.
I watched that interview. When Elon normally speaks its a bit like preaching to the converted. Elon is in a mixed room of converts and not. 16:36 There were several of these 'Mic drop' type of moments. Like this one, most of the Mic drops in this interview were followed by crickets and not the normal applause he's waiting for.
"The world will know advertisers killed the company!"
... So?
Since that guy has taken over Twitter, I am seeing ads, ads, ads. It is ruinng the experience of Twitter. I block everyone that post an ad.
Please de-bunk 'Pavegen', Phil! We all want it !!
Dear god... they made the Rick and Morty Microverse Battery.... (that doesn't work)
We need a grok video now
Lol Elon is really falling deep into his own delusions
I agree with the spirit of Elon Musk, free speech should be absolute! The problem is the advertisers!
The real problem is that like roads, free speech cannot be supported by private enterprise. In a incredible twist of irony, forums for true free speech need to be funded by the government. You know, like the BBC.
Genuinely curious, what are you so desperate to say that you feel you aren't allowed to? The people acting like they don't have free speech just seem to be mad that they can't be blatantly racist, trans and homophobic, and anti Semetic without getting told they're bad people. That's not restricted speech, that's just being an asshold and people telling you you're being an asshole.
Advertisers choosing to not have their ads on a platform that's hosted by someone being transphobic and anti-Semetic seems like a VERY good example of free speech.
BTW there is no world in which a government funded "free speech" forum works LMAO
@@_B_E People should be able to express whatever is on their mind, even if it is hateful or ignorant or extreme. Shutting that dialogue down doesn't make the issues go away, it just forces it to fester.
Also YES a government funded forum WOULD work because unlike private enterprise, the government is actually bound by the rules of the First Amendment. If it's not illegal to say in public, then the Government can't censor it on the forum either.
Or at least, I'm almost certain the Supreme Court would rule that speech cannot be moderated on a publicly funded forum if the issue came up in a lawsuit.
@@caseyb1346 You're so insanely out of touch that it's embarrassing.
What dialogue is being shut down? Are you implying that because nobody wants to have a discussion about a toxic subject that the subject is being repressed? Racists and transphobes are welcome to talk as much as they like about a subject, just as people are welcome to not associate with those people. You seem to think that ignoring or distancing oneself from topics they don't like is removing their free speech. It is not. Brutally and thoroughly illustrating why they're wrong and insulting them also is not removing their free speech.
You also seem to have a very disconnected concept of how the government treats it's people. We literally had, and very very likely still have the government using tools and programs to spy on people and put them on lists already, having a government hosted "forum" would magnify that by a significant amount. If you want to hop on a soapbox and talk about your most extreme opinions on a government hosted website, feel free, but thinking it's going to be a bastion of free speech is totally misguided.
You've probably heard this, but just in case you haven't, freedom of speech is NOT freedom of consequence.
Imagine you give your kid an allowance for doing chores and then tell you to go spork yourself when you refuse to pay because instead of mopping the kitchen floor they pulled up the linoleum. That’s Elon.