The Not-So-Simple Process of Deciphering Hieroglyphs
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- Опубликовано: 4 авг 2024
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Imagine in 1000s of years time some unlucky historian had to read a tax form to figure out the English language
Thoma Hawk lop
I'll get the noose ready for them
Funny, some of the earliest written texts ever happen to be related to buisness. A lot of people believe written language was made to keep track of trading.
CaseNumber00 Taxes specifically
Doesn't the IRS have an emergency protocol ready in case they have to collect taxes after a nuclear attack? They're relentless
When you realize that you just watched an Assassin' Creed commercial...
Pascal Gorke When you realize you watched an advertisement for a game trying to compete with the biggest Mario game ever...
Kulkinz touché
Yes, but he sold it to me haha
Biggest Mario game ever? Maybe in size, but surely not in terms of hype. As well as the fact you have to buy a switch for Mario, Assassin's Creed will be on 3 consoles at launch and will eventually get a Switch port. Ubisoft doesn't have to much to worry about.
Horizon Zero Dawn did just fine against Zelda.
What hype is there for origins? I spend all day on the internet, and I only heard of it this month or really hear anyone interested.
"So what is the Rosetta Stone about? Well, it's ancient tax paperwork. And yet it still manages to be more readable than a W-4 form."
Well to be fair, we've had hundreds of years more time to try and figure out hieroglyphics. Give it time.
I found this right when he said that.
After studying the w-4 form for a few hundred years, I can confirm you are correct
The sponsor transitions are getting smoother and smoother
Ahmed Abdulla Ahmed doesnt he have to say the he gets paid for advertising a product?
Why do you hate it? I never even hurd of this game and now am siked to get it off pirateba... i mean steam.
same haha
Nobody does it better than Business Casual
Im not a hater, I actually like these smooth transitions.
‘The only things certain in life are death and taxes’.
Two things that never change.
Sadly, this is true.
Taxes did not exist for over 99% of human history. :/
@@theyoten1613 Actually taxes are very much a part of ancient history, but they weren't as bad as they are now.
Two things that never change? Nonsense! Taxes _are_ changing - they keep on rising almost constantly.
War war never changes
The Coptic language is still spoken in some remote Egyptian villages and it's essentially the living descendant of what the ancient Egyptians spoke.
But languages change drastically over time. When some of the saxons went to Britain they were speaking the same language as those saxons who remained on the mainland. And look what kind of a mess both of them are speaking today.
Coptic is not Egyptian
Raiyhan Ali Fahmil Fikar Coptic is a European Arabic Christian language that came from after the invasion of the Greeks and Romans the Coptic came after them. The Coptic were Christians
That may be true, but that doesn't really mean its 'ancient Egyptian'. That's like saying English and proto-Germanic are the same language. Though admittedly, there wasn't really 'one' ancient Egyptian language anyway. Their culture existed for over 5,000 years. And just look at how much English has changed in the past 1,000 years (its stage around 1,000 years ago isn't even considered English, but another language called 'Anglo-saxon', which interestingly enough looks far more like modern German than English). The language during the Ancient Egypt period alone is normally divided into three stages: old, middle, and late Egyptian (these distinctions are primarily based on how ancient Egyptian history is divided up, just so we know). And though each did evolve from their predecessor, its hard to call them one language. Egyptians during the late period openly admitted that they couldn't make any sense at all of the religious texts that were written during the middle period, but they just kept copying them exactly as they were anyway because they knew the texts were sacred to their ancestors. Coptic itself represents the last stage of the language's evolution before it became a liturgical language. Yeah, its existence is useful to linguists trying to reconstruct how the ancient Egyptian texts were actually pronounced, but its hard to call it as the same language as ancient Egyptian. If that were the case, then anyone who knew Coptic would be able to understand transliterations of ancient Egyptian texts, which they clearly could not based on comparisons I've seen between Coptic and Late Egyptian. Yeah, the resemblance is there, but it still clearly wouldn't be intelligible. And honestly, a layperson probably wouldn't even notice the resemblance unless a linguist pointed it out to them.
Ggdivhjkjl coptic is not egyptian. period.
But what does this have to do with planes?
The Earth Egyptians had ancient symbols in hieroglyphics that looked like helicopters
Damn, hard one.
the Rosetta Stone is ancient tax paperwork about charging airport tax to the visitors arriving to Egypt by planes.
You can fly as an eagle in the game?
Aliens
0:05 "A language from Egypt"
> Shows flag of Yemen
Yeah that's true but the flag of Mexico is also the flag of Italy if you remove the emblem so, emblems are pretty important
Half the flags of the Americas are derived from two groups that are the same without emblems - Gran Colombia and the United Provinces of Central America
Egypt came up with the red white black flag before all the other arab countries copied it though
Kind of. The red white and black was developed to signify the arab republic by Egypt. Many arab countries later adopted those colors and applying an emblem or symbol to it. Red Black and White today is the flag for yemen, but historically it was used to signify all the Arab Republics including Egypt.
@@shroomyesc "Yeah that's true but the flag of Mexico is also the flag of Italy [...]"
No, it's not. The colors are different and also the proportions. Italy's flag is 2:3 while the flag of Mexico is 4:7.
YAY!Killing pep…um…I mean…learning things.
More like frying cpus
Odyssey is better imo
Killing peple
@@rejvaik00 OwO
@@ogorangeduck both origins and odyssey aren't assassin's creed games.
" since he was old and dead everyone assumed he was right " 😂😂 so true
This is how they'll be analyzing memes in the future
Actually, the demotic and greek text COULD be translated, and when they where, they found out that they said the same thing. So they used those languages to translate the hieroglyphics.
No. Demotic was also deciphered using the Rosetta Stone, but earlier than the hieroglyphs. That all three texts are the same was conjectured right from the start, because why would anyone put three different languages on the same stone if not for everyone of a multilingual readership to understand the same thing.
False. 1. Demotic is only 45% deciphered.
2. The heiroglyphs are not demotic, it was a secret language that took 40 years to learn. 3. The top piece of the Rosetta Stone is missing, so they are only guessing.
source?
it's cute how you tried at least, lol
The Rosetta Stone was not tax paperwork. It was a royal decree issued by a council of priests on behalf of Ptolemy V, who was only 13 years old at the time. The decree established an official cult worshiping him, among other stuff. There's a few bits talking about taxes in there (to curry favor with the people, the king had reduced taxes), but most of it is stuff talking about the priests supporting the king and all the awesome stuff that had happened in the year since his coronation.
lol
Just because he didn't mention that I should "get out of here" in the end, I would stay here for as long as I like.
I'm so *S A V A G E*
I'm not even sure if I used the right word for that.
SAUVAGE
Rus Toggamton more edgy then savage
I'm concerned.
you are brutal beast
I wish an ancient Egyptian could time travel just to say “Meh... pronunciation 6/10” then leave.
You should rename your channel to 'Just as Interesting', becouse really that's what all the content here is.
I think it's called Half as Interesting, because the videos are about half the length of the videos on Wendover Productions.
Those French spelling though...
Go France!
Hello i'm from france and I agree withe you. (we are terrible at english...)
Pas tous, mais beaucoup de français ont de mal avec la prononciation...
I am already astounded by his accent. I mean, a scientific person who's speciality is language sure can master the pronounciation of a modern western lingua franca.
French and english have very different pronunciations, that's why most french people cannot naturally speak good english, it's hard to speak and to focus on pronunciation at the same time! Have you ever heard an english person speak French? It sounds horrendous too, but at least they are trying, this man is speaking english, that's what counts!
You can't always blame the French, they are horrible person when they do not speak english, and now they are ridiculous because they're trying.. I mean come on!
You entrepreneur you with your smooth and everchanging advertisements
This guy has is a classy savage with his jokes! "More readable than a W-4 form" 😂😂
Ok. For branded content, this is decent.
Alexander didn't really conquer Egypt, they welcomed him. They hated living under Persian rule so when someone came to challenge them, they were happy to accept them. Mainly because Alexander was smart enough to not force them to change, he wanted to restore the old Egypt and he knew how important Egypt was for any empire at the time.
I finished playing origins a week back. So far I was under the assumption that the in game language was some present day Egyptian language. Didn’t know that it was extinct. Although the missions were boring and repetitive, it can be felt that Ubisoft did a thorough research in recreating this game world. Would be cool to have such recreations implemented in a form of augmented reality for tourist places.
Modern Egyptian is like Arabic it's not exactly Arabic but Arabs can understand it.
Loving the self aware factor in your latest videos!
probably the best promotional video i've ever seen, great job dude.
So your link only goes to the home page of their website. Will Ubisoft still know I bought the game because I watched your video if I have to click through at least 3 more links to buy the game?
Insanely good balance between an informative video and a commercial!
This was the best Assasin's Creed "Ad" I've seen so far :D
How I feel learning Japanese and seeing new kanji.
Damn you Chinese.
HyperLuigi Are You a 日本方
Awesome way to work in Assassins Creed. Much props
It fails to mention the role of Coptic language as the key to decipher the Ancient Egyptian hieroglyphs. Coptic language is the living descendant of the Ancient Egyptian language. Ancient Egyptian hieroglyphs were regarded as ideographic or even isoteric. However Champollion believed that it was a written language of Ancient Egyptian language. By using Coptic language as a guide, Champollion managed to make a breakthrough.
I'm gonna get Assasin's Creed Origins to kill p... I mean learn about ancient Egypt
you mean anxient?
You know what would be so funny, replace the p with an N.
I already have that Game
Thank you for reminding me why I didn’t major in Linguistics. Not to takeaway that this is still amazing to learn about!
Just fell in love with your narration!
Wendover + jokes = absolute hilarity xD
This was TWICE as interesting as your last video!
Assassins creed has the potential to serve as a tool for people to learn hieroglyphics. By incorporating valuable hidden items within the game, which can only be discovered by deciphering hieroglyphics, many players may be motivated to learn the language. This newfound knowledge could potentially enable them to unravel the mysteries of ancient Egypt in the future.
Wasn't Thomas Young the first to decode the names present in the Rosetta's stone? Champollion also decoded names written with hieroglyphs, but not Ptolemy's.
Great video nonetheless, you always pack a lot of information really well in a simple way!
I think it depends on which side of the English channel/ Manche you are. Like almost every single discovery of the 18 and 19 century.
The process of deciphering was abridged and simplified for the video, in truth it was the combined efforts of a lot of scholars during that time each contributing new insights and ideas. Jean-François Champollion published the tables matching the heiroglyphic characters with their equivalents in demotic and greek but his work built on the works of the earlier scholars.
No
Loved the Music in the background .. so familiar from when i kill pe... learn about ancient Egipt 👍
Definitely liked the sponsorship on this video more than the other one you usually do lol
aliens : "lets write some emoji on some stones and drop it in the middle of desert lol"
This channel was a great idea. It's like any time you have an idea that kind of falls flat of a full video, boom just drop it here
Love both channels btw. The podcast needs some work
Love Assasin's creed, Unity was awesome and learned a lot about the French revolution, now Ptolemaic Egypt, and the graphics and the world they create are just beautiful, not to mention the water/underwater effects, they are just astounding
The game dynamic is a bit repetitive thought, but its like and old shoe for me, comfortable.
I am Egyptian and I speak Coptic fluently i speak it with my Mom and some friends and we also use it to pray in church
Cool
Inuktitut moment
@@asmallyoutube ?!
Thank you for this informative video, half-as-learn-paper-protect person :)
I love your videos they are always great and awesome
The big problem with pronouncing Egyptian Hieroglyphs is that they largely only wrote down the consonants with very few vowel sounds written down. Therefore, any attempt to pronounce the words is largely a guesswork or just adding vowel sounds to make it as easy as possible to pronounce. The signs themselves represented 1, 2 or 3 consonants with other signs acting as determinatives to help you work out the meaning. For example in English Sun and Son would both be written as sn so if you added a picture of a man then you would know that sn represented Son and not sun.
I'd love to see you do a HAI episode about Skara Brae!
Assassin's Creed is accurate? The Pope is a Templar!
And there is a Precursor Site under the Sphinx! Yay!
Hello Internet
AlltimeCompilations Welcome to film theory
beat me to it
I thought it was the start of a CGP grey video
True haha
Welcome to "Ads Getting Smarter"-Theory
Love the Origins soundtrack in the background
2:48
This is pronounced like "Ptolemeos" because α+ι make a "e" sound in Greek.
Amazing video though, I am beyond interested with your channel and your content and I am finally happy you published a video mentioning Greek even if it has to do with Egypt :D
Διογένης It has a different pronunciation in English. But you are correct.
Certainly in modern Greek, but not in ancient Greek though. Digraphs are relatively recent.
Modern Greek pronunciation is not the same as Attic pronunciation, or the Koine pronunciation (in Ptolemaic Egypt, for instance).
Δηλαδή τον αποκαλούσαν "Πτολεμάιο" ; ε δε νομίζω να είναι έτσι (όχι πως ξέρω κιόλας, ανοικτός σε κάθε άποψη είμαι)
Nice diacritics.
Check out Cymroglyphics by Ross Broadstock. He has produced a book based on the work of Alan Wilson, that shows that the ancient Welsh language is the key to reading the heiroglyphs correctly. The ancient britons, or welsh always maintained their descent from the near east, and incredibly it works amazingly!!!
I love how the Brits and the French said that the stone is theirs
amazing way to sponsor a youtube video. congrats to HaI and Assassin's Creed!
Hey there, thanks for the video, I work as a tour guide in Egypt and I have a degree in Egyptology; and no, you won't sound weird, to a certain level, to the Ancient ones, because in churches here in Egypt we still use the last form of the language in coptic language with the litanies and holy masses, actually Champollion mentions the help of an Egyptian Coptic priest used to hear him saying these litanies in a church next to him called "Yohanna Al Cheftechi", he taught him grammar and pronunciation of coptic.
This was one hell of an advertisement for AC origins. Subtle, I like it.
Best ad I've seen in a while.
Great Video!
Dang... stuff about the Rosetta Stone was a passage on a test I took at school XD. You saved me!
That's a cool way for people to learn.
Much like the interactive bible .. it allows more information for the environment and would be amazing for creative writers to access aswell.
Interactive bible? I’m Christian but haven’t read the bible because it seems hard and confusing so if there is a fun version of the bible I would be down.
Champollion is my hometown local legend. Nice to hear about him a bit
OUI! ENFIN! je suis de Figeac moi aussi!
I have to learn Latin in school (hi from Germany) and it has always bugged me to find out how we knew what they wrote. My teachers never knew and I guess people deciphered the language partly due to the catholic church using it till the sixties. But did Latin have to be deciphered by the church or did we just teach it to every generation?
🤔 Are those images the actual hieroglyphs found in e egypt being used in the game (or mock-ups of the actual ones)? It would be awesome if they were legit.
Best reason to get the actual game since one would have a lot more time to look at them at one's pace.
"unless you're these three people, or me."
AGGRESSIVELY APPLAUDS
I’ve always always always wondered about this
If you go to Paris, you'll see an Egyptian obelisk,that was offered by Egypt to France to thanks Champollion for it's huge discoveries ! :)
amazing sponsored video ! i loved it !
I'am showing my Egyptology prof this video so cool!
very informative
thanks
What's that document at 1:06, anybody know?
The Rosetta Stone is hardly a tax document. It is a statement of gratitude from priests about Ptolemy V Epiphanes, who gave them a gift of gold and managed to dam some of the Nile river floods for the benefit of farmers. There is more to it than that, but that is some of it.
The only sponsor explanation i watched wholly in this channel
There is only a way to decipher the hieroglyphs. You need two instruments:
(1) the symbolic algorithm,
(2) the Albanian Language.
References:
The mesianic role of the Albanian Language by Petro Zheji
Albanian and Sanskrit Language by Petro Zheji
Thoth spoke Albanian by Giuseppe Catapano
2:28 the boat hieroglyph made me laugh idk why
I'm 3 years late to this video and game, but im sold
What a coincidence!
I got the game for chistmas this year lol
This video really leads up to an ad for a game? Im not a gamer, I appreciate the effort that went into this video. Id have liked it to tie up in anyway that wasnt a video game; but thanks non the less.
I just love your sarcasm
Yes! Fewer squarespace ads and more ads like this!
Hi wendover
What software do you use to edit my freind?
wow, i didnt know half as interesting was a sellout. wendover productions would never do such actions, he is a better youtuber than half as interesting
am i getting whooshed or are they the same person?
What's the music?
First sponsorship I actually watched all of.
I love your videos 👌
Those French classes are really paying off for you. 😂😂
This is the best promotional ever, I actually like the advertiser and the channel too, and I learned some shit.
I don't understand Hieroglyphs yet, but I am learning them, along with Akkadian. I already know how to read all the scripts of Hebrew, with the exception of a Medieval Script I just learned about recently, Aramaic, Greek, Syriac, and Latin. I use all of these for Textual Criticism, and once I learn Hieroglyphs and Akkadian, I hope to be able to read texts related to Biblical Archaeology, such as the Merneptah Stele which mentions Israel in its text.
Hey HAI! I’m working on building a similar channel, any tips you have for growth? I’ve been pretty heavily involved in written media of this nature, but I’m just now venturing into video. I’d love some input! 👌🏻
I was a little hesitanat about getting the game. Now I'm way more interested.
03:59 need more research and proofs beyond doubt on that i think!
2:14 In some languages those punctuation marks are incorrect
Yep, Japanese for example has slightly different periods and commas, and very different quotation marks!
Longer and more videos please
Whoa what a fantastic sponsorship
whats the song at 1:46
OMG this would be so useful for my class!
Thank you for uploading this when you did!
My fondness of this channel does not out weigh my hated of Uplay. Soz fam.
DUDE, you're the first anglophone person I hear speaking French and that actually TRIES to pronounce words correctly.
He didn't say Goodbye? Is there still more after the word 'description'? I need to know.
This is the best video game ad I've seen ever. Considering how much history people learn (everything from Civilization, Total War or even old Call of Duty), games are terribly underused as an educational tool through dope missions. Awesome video and this feature will make me try the game.