Pumice Stones, Alcohol & Fire.

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  • Опубликовано: 12 дек 2024

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  • @cybersean3000
    @cybersean3000 3 месяца назад +71

    My Great Grandfather did this with bricks and kerosene. He lived in a very rural very small coal mining town. One night there was a municipal band concert at the band shell in the town park, and for whatever reason, the gas street lights were not working. He soaked bricks in kerosene and hung them up by wires around town, along the streets so people would not have to walk home in the dark.
    I do not know what kind of bricks or how big. I do not know how long he soaked them. I do not know how long they burned. It's a family story, with no details. He passed in 1977 at the age of 97. I did know him and I did spend time with him.

    • @OliveDrabAlliance
      @OliveDrabAlliance  3 месяца назад +10

      Thanks for sharing that awesome memory. Your Grandfather sounds like not only a very innovative man, but also a good Samaritan.
      Thank you.

    • @hankhill962
      @hankhill962 3 месяца назад +8

      My grandfather did this also. They would soak a brick in kerosene for a few days, put it in a bucket with sand. Using it to keep their hands warm so they could make trotlines during the winter .

    • @philliplopez8745
      @philliplopez8745 3 месяца назад +7

      @@cybersean3000 probably fire bricks , they are very porous and would not crack when heated .

    • @jasonjohnson6344
      @jasonjohnson6344 3 месяца назад +1

      Very interesting and useful information. 👍✌️

    • @jshaw4757
      @jshaw4757 3 месяца назад +1

      Cool

  • @lutherpayne9957
    @lutherpayne9957 3 месяца назад +32

    Being a po'boy deer hunter in my youth, we had to have a way to stay warm in a deer blind. Yes, in Texas that is the way most folks hunt. Back when you could get small coffee cans everywhere, we would make toilet paper heaters. You start by unwinding the the toilet paper until you could fit it into the coffee can. Take the paper that you took off and stuff it into the center of the roll. Now slowly add denatured alcohol to the can until it won't absorb anymore. Cover the top of the can with a piece of aluminum foil and then place the plastic lid on.
    You now have aa heater that burns with a mostly blue flame and is fairly quite. When you want to put it out, use the aluminum foil piece to snuff out the flame and when it cools off you can place the plastic lid back on. Pretty much you can get 8 hours of burn time out of a full can. In a pinch I have used them to heat up C rations. It would have been better by burning isopropyl alcohol but we we getting the other stuff almost free. So po'boys going to do what they are going to do. But in most deer blinds of the day there was plenty of fresh air coming in so all the heater did was give you a way to warm hands and feet for a little while. Then the propane catalytic heaters came along and we were in heaven. Nice presentation. Cheers!

    • @OliveDrabAlliance
      @OliveDrabAlliance  3 месяца назад +6

      Thanks for sharing a great memory and excellent tip. I'm in north western Illinois, so it won't be too long before I might need something like what you described
      Thank you

    • @larrylezon1590
      @larrylezon1590 2 месяца назад +1

      I heard this from my uncles back in the '70's, but didn't understand the concept for decades. They would go fishing at night in an aluminum boat (now in my possession) and keep warm by the coffee can method. Amazing to revisit how things were done in the past.

    • @OliveDrabAlliance
      @OliveDrabAlliance  2 месяца назад

      @@larrylezon1590 we all could learn a lot from the past, that is for sure!

  • @randy-9842
    @randy-9842 3 месяца назад +10

    Interesting experiment. Haven't read all the comments but can suggest adding a bit of table salt to the ones burning Methanol (Heet) to make the flames more visible. --- Also, welding blankets (a soft and easily-cut carbon fiber) make a great wick with very little consumption. I have cut and rolled up strips of them and put them in tuna fish cans. You probably already know about both of those those!

    • @OliveDrabAlliance
      @OliveDrabAlliance  3 месяца назад +1

      Actually I've never heard of using welding blankets.
      That is why I love the comment section so much!
      Thank you very much for the tip and for watching

    • @randy-9842
      @randy-9842 3 месяца назад +1

      @@OliveDrabAlliance :D that's why I love the comment sections too!
      -- Small welding blankets (used by plumbers to protect the walls while soldering their pipes) can be purchased through Amazon and I'm sure many other places.
      I first saw them featured in making small methanol "stoves" from small V8 juice cans wrapped in a strip of the blanket and nested inside a slightly larger "Fancy Feast" cat-food can. Many videos can be found on YT.
      I made a couple myself but substituted a small Hatch Green Chill can for the Fancy Feast can. I think I substituted a small Tomato Paste can for the very flimsy V8 can but the label is long gone now.
      These things can be fun and experimentation is great! Please continue --- Just be careful of nearly-invisible methanol flames!

    • @FidoHouse
      @FidoHouse Месяц назад +1

      We think alike (the table salt). 🙂

  • @romanbrough
    @romanbrough 3 месяца назад +19

    I recall reading that British soldiers in North Africa used a " desert stove" Cut down petrol tin, filled with sand then petrol. And yes, often used for boiling water for tea.

    • @OliveDrabAlliance
      @OliveDrabAlliance  3 месяца назад +3

      That, is awesome.
      I've been racking my brain about a follow up video to this.
      I thought about not only pumice, but sponges and tampons as well. Sand... now that is interesting.
      Thank you

    • @jamesdolph437
      @jamesdolph437 2 месяца назад +2

      we would use a small "C" ration can half filled with sand and diesel fuel ... gasoline works as well

    • @OliveDrabAlliance
      @OliveDrabAlliance  2 месяца назад +3

      @jamesdolph437 I'm tempted to try this with an empty SPAM can, some sand and HEET. Im torn though, because this was a very popular video for me, but on the other hand, following it through i basically came up with a cross between a molotov cocktail and a candle. Obviously you have to he careful putting instructions on how to make something like that on youtube. My plan for my video this week was to melt some aluminum and coat a pumice stone 90% of the way with molten aluminum. I didn't do that this week and I'm at a strange crossroads. Finish the experiment or just drop it and move along?

    • @romanbrough
      @romanbrough 2 месяца назад +3

      @@OliveDrabAlliance Try a small can. Sand, and add cooking oil. Or have three or four different fuels in similar cans. Perhaps even melted candle wax. I have made a number of Buddy burners. Can, filled with corrugated cardboard ( with the "holes" vertical) fill with melted wax. Stand well back, and do it outside. Light carefully at arms length. It made a Very powerful burner after a couple of minutes. Then I realised I hadn't planned how to put the flame out.

    • @OliveDrabAlliance
      @OliveDrabAlliance  2 месяца назад +1

      @romanbrough thank you. I have been beating myself up on how to follow this video up. I was honestly just kind of goofing around, then this video became my 2nd most popular video. I've been wanting to follow it up and I did, but I pulled my own video, because I made something that isn't very safe and I didn't want to see anyone get hurt. I really like your idea of the sand Stoves, but with different fuels.
      I appreciate your comment more than you'll ever know. So far this week I haven't put out a video, thinking, I have to follow up this pumice stone video. I actually recorded a video, but it was crap, I've been pre occupied.
      So thank you for the idea.

  • @AC9T
    @AC9T 3 месяца назад +23

    Interesting idea. The pumice stone in this case, is a hard wick. The fuel burns away and goes out when it runs dry. If you had a container of fuel and the stone blocking the surface of the fuel, where it floats on top and rides the fuel level down as it is burned, it's then a reusable wick...until it breaks. The stone equivalent of a carbon felt wick. Peace

    • @OliveDrabAlliance
      @OliveDrabAlliance  3 месяца назад +6

      This is why I love the comment section, there are so many good ideas here.
      Thank you!

    • @dlighted8861
      @dlighted8861 3 месяца назад +3

      Interesting,something to try.

    • @mattmarzula
      @mattmarzula 2 месяца назад +1

      ​@@OliveDrabAllianceI wouldn't call this a good idea. I would call it a fugazi.

  • @ravenbarsrepairs5594
    @ravenbarsrepairs5594 3 месяца назад +11

    It's be interesting to see a thermal camera image of the 2 stones burning. Alcohol usually burns with a very white/invisible flame, so the foil wrapped one may actually cook better.

    • @OliveDrabAlliance
      @OliveDrabAlliance  3 месяца назад +2

      You would think I could have at least filmed the flames at night... Sometimes I get these ideas, but I just don't think them through.
      I agree though, thermal images would be cool

  • @FidoHouse
    @FidoHouse Месяц назад +2

    I've heard that a bit of table salt added to alcohol makes the flame more visible.
    Great demo.

  • @survivaloptions4999
    @survivaloptions4999 3 месяца назад +4

    Super interesting. I'd like to see how these work as an element in an alcohol stove (in place of carbon felt for example). Good observation.

    • @OliveDrabAlliance
      @OliveDrabAlliance  3 месяца назад +2

      I can tell you the rectangular ones pretty much crumbled apart when I tried to pick them up after burning. I will definitely refine and revisit this in the near future, hopefully with more full and better results

  • @Theantichrist9Tails
    @Theantichrist9Tails 3 месяца назад +6

    Pizza stone material works well too.

    • @OliveDrabAlliance
      @OliveDrabAlliance  3 месяца назад +1

      That is what I heard. I saw a video about something called a pill bottle stove that uses pizza stone material. That is what got me thinking about this.
      Thank you

  • @samTollefson
    @samTollefson Месяц назад +1

    In the 1800s, you could buy a small cast iron cauldron with a lid that contained a pumas stone on a steel rod. You would keep the cauldron full of kerosene and use the pumas stone with the handle full of fuel to start the wood fire in your stove or fireplace. I have one I used to start the fire in my woodstove; the only problem was the smell of the kerosene, I tried non-smelly mineral spirits, and that was better, but my wax-impregnated saw dust wafers were still the best route for starting the fire.

    • @OliveDrabAlliance
      @OliveDrabAlliance  Месяц назад

      I have already started making a follow up video for this and planned on finishing today, but I'm not sure that will happen. My plan is to coat about 80-90% of the stone with molten aluminum to try to "hold" the fuel longer.
      We will see hiw it goes.
      Thank you for the comment, that is very interesting. I grew up with nothing but a wood stove for heat (in northern illinois) and I wish we had an item like you described
      Thank you & take care

    • @samTollefson
      @samTollefson Месяц назад

      @@OliveDrabAlliance What may be of interest to you is that I bought the item because I like cast iron and display many cast pots around my cast iron Jotul woodstove. When I got it, it was missing the stone on the end of the tube. The tube was a length of steel all-thread with a handle screwed in one end, a brass tube over the all-thread, and 1 1/2" or so thread protruding that went through the stone secured with a nut. What I did was get one of those porous stone brickets (about the size and shape of a charcoal bricket) that they put over the burners in a gas grill, drilled a hole with a masonry bit (slow and wet) to run the all thread through. It worked well and would hold a flame for several minutes to start the wood. I am unsure what material the bricket was made of, but it seemed denser than pumas stone and didn't drip fuel when moving from the pot to the stove after a brief shake-off over the pot.

  • @RenThraysk
    @RenThraysk 3 месяца назад +4

    There is a South African company that sells this as a reusable firelighter. Just couple of stones in a large test tube shaped container, soaking in parafin.

    • @OliveDrabAlliance
      @OliveDrabAlliance  3 месяца назад

      I'm going to have to check that out, thank you

    • @RenThraysk
      @RenThraysk 3 месяца назад +1

      ​@@OliveDrabAlliance Fireside Compact Fire Stone & Fireside Mini Fire Stone are the names. Pretty sure the containers are pop/water bottle preforms.

  • @kevinjones5001
    @kevinjones5001 Месяц назад +1

    I'm guessing that letting the existing hole in the soaked dense foil wrapped oval draw air while burning could yield interesting results. Like wrap the whole soaked rock in foil and then use a skewer or whatever to poke through from bottom to top then set down propped up enough let it breath and light it to see if one can get it to draw extra air and form a sort extra oxygenated 'jet'. Might play with expanding the amount of exposed pumice a bit topside by peeling back a little more foil after skewering through.
    If one can get a good steady 'jet' effect going (or at least hints of this being possible) then perhaps follow-up by drilling some custom holes of different diameters and testing them in a similar fashion. Once you've found some 'sweet spot' dimensions could try drilling patterned clusters of multiple holes to be lit at once. Like rig up a stand and put a small camp pot over it even.

    • @OliveDrabAlliance
      @OliveDrabAlliance  Месяц назад +1

      I've been looking in my garage for some scrap aluminum to melt down. I'm thinking I will dip a stone into molten aluminum to create a vessel and a wick. I ended up just buying some clean aluminum pellets. They arrived today.
      Depending on overtime at work, I'll be firing up the grill soon.
      Thanks and I like your ideas, especially about drilling holes into the stones.

  • @rannxerox3970
    @rannxerox3970 2 месяца назад +2

    I just make a burner out of two coke cans, works fine. I have the Trangia as well and it will retain heat better because of the heavier metal but, it's heavier. Even a cat food can with holes punched with a "hole punch" works fine with putting the pot directly on it.

    • @OliveDrabAlliance
      @OliveDrabAlliance  2 месяца назад

      I love my Trangia stove. I've never made a can stove, but I really want to. I'm hoping to make one that will fit in my Crusader Cook Kit. Maybe Red Bull cans would fit?
      Thanks for watching

  • @SilntObsvr
    @SilntObsvr 3 месяца назад +2

    The non-floating stones work better because the floating ones, well, float. They float for *years* in the Pacific, where they sometimes collect into small floating islands. And they float so well and so long because the bubbles in the stone (and yes, it *is* volcanic stone) are closed, so water (or fuel) can't soak into them. The callus stones, on the other hand, aren't really pumice (or might be recycled pumice, crushed and bound back into shape with some kind of resin); all the pores are open and connected, so they collect much more fuel -- but they don't float (or not for long) because the air cells don't stay air cells; they become water or alcohol cells...

    • @OliveDrabAlliance
      @OliveDrabAlliance  3 месяца назад +1

      That's wild! I mean... it makes sense, but who would have thought that there are stones floating around the ocean?
      Maybe it sounds silly, but I'm a Midwestern land lubber, so it just sounds wild to me.
      Thank you.

  • @allkindsofoutdooractivities
    @allkindsofoutdooractivities 3 месяца назад +3

    Really good share. Nice comparison

  • @shaynecarter-murray3127
    @shaynecarter-murray3127 2 месяца назад +1

    The lighter stone would be an interesting wick for an alcohol stove, if you could find that material in a puck shape and a can it fits in. The way it floats, it would stay on top of the fuel and wick the fuel up, as well as making sure the flame is evenly distributed.

    • @OliveDrabAlliance
      @OliveDrabAlliance  2 месяца назад

      I definitely have to revisit this. I've been thinking of putting a nail through the hole in the stone and suspending it into a container of alcohol. I'm kind of hung up on the container though. I don't want the alcohol to evaporate, just to get wicked up to the flame.
      I'll work on it.
      Thanks for watching

  • @jerold8908
    @jerold8908 2 месяца назад +2

    Heet generally burns cleaner than rubbing or denatured alcohol.

    • @OliveDrabAlliance
      @OliveDrabAlliance  2 месяца назад

      Heet is my #1 choice for alcohol Stoves.
      Thanks for watching

  • @martinhafner2201
    @martinhafner2201 3 месяца назад +2

    I'm thinking of trying the cheap natural sharpening stones (mostly compressed alumina particles) at Harbor Freight. They may be higher density than the pumice stone. Looks the Gordon stones cost about $3 at the moment. I thought I saw something like that for about $1 a couple years ago. At about 8" x 3", it's a lot of product. You should be able to break it into about 3 pieces using brick chipping techniques.

    • @OliveDrabAlliance
      @OliveDrabAlliance  3 месяца назад +1

      I might just do that. I want to do a follow up video and if I can get to Harbor Freight beforehand, I will.
      Thank you

  • @philliplopez8745
    @philliplopez8745 3 месяца назад +5

    Always thought of it as foamed volcanic glass .

    • @OliveDrabAlliance
      @OliveDrabAlliance  3 месяца назад +1

      That is probably the mist accurate description of it.
      Hahaha
      Thanks for cracking me up and thanks for watching

    • @SilntObsvr
      @SilntObsvr 3 месяца назад +2

      Pumice is exactly that: obsidian magma (volcanic glass) that had so much gas in it when it solidified that it became closed-cell foam.

    • @OliveDrabAlliance
      @OliveDrabAlliance  3 месяца назад +1

      @SilntObsvr I never knew this. I totally thought it was man made. I must admit, I was ignorant about pumice. Thanks to you guys and gals I learned something new.

  • @larrylezon1590
    @larrylezon1590 2 месяца назад +1

    OMG! You have a "left-handed wind bender"! On my 1st Boy Scout camp-out, a couple of Scouts spent an hour asking the other troops if they had one... until they realized they had been fooled.

    • @OliveDrabAlliance
      @OliveDrabAlliance  2 месяца назад +1

      That is too funny!
      I love hearing stuff like that.
      Thank you

  • @jamescrowe7892
    @jamescrowe7892 3 месяца назад +3

    I would imagine those pumice stones would sprout legs and run screaming away from Cody Lundin.

    • @OliveDrabAlliance
      @OliveDrabAlliance  3 месяца назад +1

      Oh my goodness... I think about him everything I walk barefoot on gravel... YOUWCH!
      Thank you!

  • @BiscuitsStuckToTheWall
    @BiscuitsStuckToTheWall 3 месяца назад +1

    Cool, interesting experiment. 👍

  • @RimfireAddicted70
    @RimfireAddicted70 3 месяца назад +2

    This type of stone/material is not used for fire source as it does not actually absorb any liquid, the liquid fills voids within but also is released uncontrolled and too fast to be considered useful. With ETOH as fuel you'll be fighting evaporation constantly and losing fuel to the air before being burned making it ultra inefficient compared to current methods in use. There are several problems to overcome such as regulating flame, extinguishing on demand, refueling as you mentioned and fragility of the stone which will become weaker with each use and quickly just start to crumble into pieces. When you think of making a fire source your first thought should be can you control the fuel if not back to the drawing board.

    • @OliveDrabAlliance
      @OliveDrabAlliance  3 месяца назад

      Excellent points. The rectangular stones fell apart when I tried to pick them up after burning. I am back to the drawing board to see if anything worthwhile can come of this. Maybe yes, maybe no. Thank you for your insight, I appreciate it

  • @louf7178
    @louf7178 3 месяца назад +4

    Well, at least you can use it to make starting an other fire more easily. (?)

    • @OliveDrabAlliance
      @OliveDrabAlliance  3 месяца назад +1

      That is probably where this will end up, as a fire extender. I'm definitely going to continue working on this and revisit it soon.
      Thank you

  • @markm8188
    @markm8188 2 месяца назад +1

    The title pulled me right in.

    • @OliveDrabAlliance
      @OliveDrabAlliance  2 месяца назад

      I know right?!?
      Now I'm struggling. How do I follow that up?
      Thanks for watching

  • @HarshmanHills
    @HarshmanHills 3 месяца назад +1

    This is a new one on me. Great testing

    • @OliveDrabAlliance
      @OliveDrabAlliance  3 месяца назад +1

      Thank you very much.
      I'm glad you enjoyed the video

  • @jelkel25
    @jelkel25 Месяц назад +1

    Saw a video at least a couple of years ago from a lightweight hiker comparing alcohol burners and this gizmo that looked like 2 small stacked hockey pucks maybe made of some sort of stone was best. He just mentioned the brand of the gizmo and how surprised he was it was the best so I never learned what the gizmo was made of. Now I know!

    • @OliveDrabAlliance
      @OliveDrabAlliance  Месяц назад

      I think I saw the same video. I believe he said it was made of pizza stone material and called it a pill bottle stove. That is what inspired me to try out pumice stones. I deleted my follow-up video because it led to a place where I was instructing people on how to make harmful things. Take the good take the bad type things. All sides, I believe originally , were pizza stone material..
      Thank you, and have a great day

    • @jelkel25
      @jelkel25 Месяц назад +1

      @@OliveDrabAlliance There's the confusion, no idea what a pizza stone is.

    • @OliveDrabAlliance
      @OliveDrabAlliance  Месяц назад

      @jelkel25 it is a flat stone, usually maybe 1/2 inch thick that you place a frozen pizza on. You pre heat your oven and the pizza stone, then bake the frozen pizza on the stone and it will give you a crispy pizza crust.
      I have used pizza stones here on the channel when baking in the Coleman Oven
      Thanks for watching

  • @MichaelJohnson-tw7dq
    @MichaelJohnson-tw7dq 3 месяца назад +2

    Interesting idea, where are you going with it? Do they burn hot enough and long enough, to cook over? What is the advantage over an alcohol stove? Is a side by side comparison in the offing?

    • @OliveDrabAlliance
      @OliveDrabAlliance  3 месяца назад +1

      I was hoping to copy or make an alternate to something I saw called a pill bottle stove. Basically small round pizza stone like tablets that fit in a pill bottle full of alcohol. I was hoping the pumice would perform equally or better. So far, that doesn't look to be the case.
      Thank you for watching

    • @MichaelJohnson-tw7dq
      @MichaelJohnson-tw7dq 3 месяца назад +1

      @@OliveDrabAlliance I am interested in seeing what you can do with this idea, and as always thank you for the ideas you inspire.

    • @OliveDrabAlliance
      @OliveDrabAlliance  3 месяца назад +2

      @MichaelJohnson-tw7dq Thank you. There are so many outdoors youtubers out there that I believe in order to stand out. You have to innovate and be creative. Some ideas won't always be successful, but sometimes you win and sometimes you learn

  • @wascalywabbit
    @wascalywabbit 2 месяца назад +2

    They sell a ball made of this on a metal rod to dip in a pot of kerosene, makes starting a wood stove easy

    • @OliveDrabAlliance
      @OliveDrabAlliance  2 месяца назад +1

      That is very interesting. These pumice stones for the feet in the video have a little hole drilled into them that used to have a string. I've been thinking of putting a nail through that hole and suspending it into a container of alcohol.
      I'm kind of stuck on a few details though.
      Stay tuned & thank you

    • @wascalywabbit
      @wascalywabbit 2 месяца назад

      @@OliveDrabAlliance yes,... check out on the Google Fite starter pot. You'll see them

  • @jack1d1XB
    @jack1d1XB 3 месяца назад +1

    What about paraffin, would that not have a longer burn time and how about putting the stone in a lidded metal tin to snuff it out when not needed?🤔
    If it works well with Paraffin you could potentially get custom made tins and start a small business from it, oh and one other thing provided the tin is durable could it be used in a similar fashion as a hand warmer/ sleeping bag heater?

    • @OliveDrabAlliance
      @OliveDrabAlliance  3 месяца назад

      Just be careful with the sleeping bag stuff. We are talking fuel and flame here.
      Yeah, more testing is warranted so more testing there will be.
      I even thought of wrapping a tampon in foil and seeing if the string acted as a wick?
      Thank you for watching

  • @thomasdemaio53
    @thomasdemaio53 3 месяца назад +1

    The oval with the foil was isopropyl (rubbing) alcohol. It burns very clear, but gives lots of soot. Maybe they got mixed up or something

  • @mjc1000000
    @mjc1000000 3 месяца назад +4

    My dad used a pumice stone and methylated spirit to start our weekly BBQ fire

    • @OliveDrabAlliance
      @OliveDrabAlliance  3 месяца назад

      That is awesome, thanks for sharing a helpful BBQ tip as well as a great memory.
      Thank you & I hope you have a great day

  • @Flashahol
    @Flashahol 2 месяца назад +1

    I wonder if the stone was to float in a vessel the exact size and shape of the stone it may act as an active wick...
    I've experimented with different fuels to make torches and one big observation I had is that Isopropyl makes a lot of light and little heat while fondue fuel (didn't have Heet at the time) made very little light -mostly blue flame- and a lot of heat.

    • @OliveDrabAlliance
      @OliveDrabAlliance  2 месяца назад

      Interesting.
      I have a feeling if it was floating in fuel and lit, it would just light the fuel, but there is only one way to find out.
      Thanks for watching

  • @brushbum7508
    @brushbum7508 3 месяца назад +2

    Good Afternoon ! This looks interesting. TAKE CARE..

    • @OliveDrabAlliance
      @OliveDrabAlliance  3 месяца назад +2

      It could be interesting, it might take some more tinkering, we will see I guess.
      Thanks for watching

    • @brushbum7508
      @brushbum7508 3 месяца назад

      @@OliveDrabAlliance You Bet ! TAKE CARE..

  • @vinceimp9581
    @vinceimp9581 3 месяца назад +1

    2 thoughts, maybe muffler seal paste can be used to seal the stone bottom and edges. Also why not use it in an alcohol stove as a diffuser of sorts?

    • @OliveDrabAlliance
      @OliveDrabAlliance  2 месяца назад

      I thought about wax maybe? I'm thinking the muffler seal paste would hold up to the heat better.
      Good idea & thank you

  • @Nunya9876
    @Nunya9876 3 месяца назад +1

    Using the pumice stone 🪨 for feet 🦶-the heat would “sanitize” the rock by fire 🔥 so no worries about foot fungus or other nasties 🦠 in fact, burning the stone like that would “clean” the stone (burn off the dead foot skin etc), which would make the stone reusable.

    • @OliveDrabAlliance
      @OliveDrabAlliance  3 месяца назад

      You wouldn't have calluses, but you would have 2nd or 3rd degree burns.
      Hahahaha
      Take your pick.
      Thank you for cracking me up. & thank you for watching

    • @BingWatcher
      @BingWatcher 3 месяца назад +1

      Just the alcohol by itself would sanitize the stone

    • @OliveDrabAlliance
      @OliveDrabAlliance  3 месяца назад

      @@BingWatcher I wonder if it would have an odor?

    • @BingWatcher
      @BingWatcher 3 месяца назад

      @@OliveDrabAlliance The odor of the feet or the stone? Lol

  • @Slavicplayer251
    @Slavicplayer251 2 месяца назад +2

    “almost like a lava rock” huh i wonder why

    • @OliveDrabAlliance
      @OliveDrabAlliance  2 месяца назад

      I never knew until someone else here in the comments let me know. I always thought they were a manufactured material. I also have never used one on my feet until somebody recommended it here in the comments. Top notch!
      Thank you

  • @johnnyjohnson6134
    @johnnyjohnson6134 3 месяца назад +3

    great test good video what if you added vaseline on stone too to hold in fuel and then wrap in voil to hold in

    • @OliveDrabAlliance
      @OliveDrabAlliance  3 месяца назад +2

      I was just thinking about coating it in wax, but Vaseline would probably be better.
      Thank you

    • @BingWatcher
      @BingWatcher 3 месяца назад

      Would the wicking effect of the stone be eliminated by the wax or PJ?

  • @jshaw4757
    @jshaw4757 3 месяца назад +1

    Hey from UK ..Try using copper mesh as a wick it burns super hot n fast and after a while it your lucky you will get green n blue flames i just did the beer can stove holes just above the bottom and cut big hole in top cut the centre out n stuff metal mesh copper or others but use alcahol gell not liquid and yh if you get it right its like a bunsen burner but a foot high and yh green n blue fire if you persist with it..i used snail stopping copper mesh squeezed a handfull into a big ball put in the little beer can type stove n yh 5/6/7 pen sized holes near bottom say cm from bottom and squeeze some alcahol gell in or can try liquid alcahol obvs dont want it too pour out the holes so have too experiment but i think where the copper is so full holes the air pulls right the copper or metal mesh so you get a very aggressive flame...cheers

    • @OliveDrabAlliance
      @OliveDrabAlliance  3 месяца назад

      I picked up some of those metal pot scrubbers. One is copper colered, but I don't think it is actually copper.

    • @jshaw4757
      @jshaw4757 3 месяца назад

      @@OliveDrabAlliance Not sure yh I don't think there real copper I've not tried the dish scrubber ones give em a whirl...the stuff I used was mesh for plant pots snail deterrent I don't think it's expensive maybe ebay but yh just a rough idea it's your air pull that gets your roaring flame I'm sure that's the trick I'm sure the size n shape and number off holes n where you put them makes a difference but for sure want some by the bottom going round but let me know how you get on I'm planning too make a permanent heater off sorts buy nice big copper bowl n like some brass legs make it look a bit posh n have a indoor heater put a big terracotta pot over it so there's a giant flame going into the pot n radiating all off the heat that way so none off the heat from flame is wasted the pot catches it all I'm sure you've seen them before but yh good luck 👍

  • @richardhenry1969
    @richardhenry1969 3 месяца назад +1

    You need to try boiling water. It's a good metric to use. Most good alcohol stoves take about 6min or more to boil 2cups of water.

    • @OliveDrabAlliance
      @OliveDrabAlliance  3 месяца назад +2

      I'm definitely going to have to do a follow up video, that is more thought out. I might use your idea, it is an excellent idea
      Thank you

  • @Xxxero42
    @Xxxero42 3 месяца назад +1

    Did one of the rectangular stones break from the fire? Or did you break it?

    • @OliveDrabAlliance
      @OliveDrabAlliance  3 месяца назад +1

      It did break and I do not know why I didn't put that in the video, I shoukd have and I apologize.
      Yeah, after the flame went out, I let it cool and when I picked it up, it just fell apart (easily)
      Thanks for watching

    • @Xxxero42
      @Xxxero42 3 месяца назад +1

      @@OliveDrabAlliance thanks for the reply! I like your videos.

  • @HootOwl513
    @HootOwl513 3 месяца назад +4

    Isopropyl alcohol is not a good Trangia fuel. It tends to smudge the bottom of pots. Heet is good. KleenStrip denatured alcohol -- sold as camp fuel -- is the best. But the last gallon I bought was 25% more expensive than Coleman gas.

    • @OliveDrabAlliance
      @OliveDrabAlliance  3 месяца назад +1

      I try to stick with Heet. I've had nothing but good results with it. I never knew that about the isopropyl gunking up though. That is good to know for sure, thank you.

    • @martinhafner2201
      @martinhafner2201 3 месяца назад +1

      If you have a hot rod store near you, get their clean racing methanol. They sell it pure for about $6 per gallon. Excellent deal. Just bring in your own gallon plastic bottle with a good tight lid, such as an old windshield fluid bottle or a big orange juice bottle.

    • @HootOwl513
      @HootOwl513 3 месяца назад +1

      @@martinhafner2201 Thanks, Man. That's a great idea.. Maybe they'd fill an empty KleenStrip can?
      Heet [Yellow] does burn hot, but clean. I was using a DollarStore brand, but they changed the formula and put fish scent in it to keep humans from drinking it. That stuff stank when burning. Had to wash out my Trangia with hot soapy water and sun dry it. Yellow HEET used to run $1.25 a bottle, but it's doubled.
      Everclear would work too. But it's $20 bucks a Fifth, and also potable [@ 190*] -- if taken in moderation.

    • @HootOwl513
      @HootOwl513 3 месяца назад +1

      I just called Don's Hot Rod shop in Tucson. They have it for $5 a gallon. An empty KleenStrip alcohol can is fine with them. Great idea,

  • @archangel20031
    @archangel20031 3 месяца назад +1

    A stove made from soda cans works well.

    • @OliveDrabAlliance
      @OliveDrabAlliance  3 месяца назад

      I love those. I'd like to make one out of small red bull cans and try and see if it will fit in my Crusader cook kit.
      Thank you for watching & take it easy

  • @BennyCFD
    @BennyCFD Месяц назад +1

    The reason the 91% Iso burns yellow is because it's not as clean burning as the methanol heat which is why it's hard to see it burn. the 91% Iso also leaves soot. So.......Compared with the stove which was more efficient per-volume of fuel lets say heating 1 cup of water.

    • @OliveDrabAlliance
      @OliveDrabAlliance  Месяц назад

      People say the heet is a bad choice. I think so much if it burns off it is a good choice. You could write a book about the difference here.
      Thanks for watching

  • @pipingandcamping
    @pipingandcamping 3 месяца назад +2

    That's an interesting idea, I noticed one of the stones was broken later in the video. Was that from the burning? Have a great week brother.

    • @OliveDrabAlliance
      @OliveDrabAlliance  3 месяца назад +2

      I should have mentioned this, the lighter weight pumice basically crumbled when I picked it up. I assume from the heat, but yeah, if pumice is going to work, it's going to have to be fairly dense.
      Thanks for watching & good eye.

  • @vagaman2000
    @vagaman2000 2 месяца назад +1

    Try stove oil and use a stone like a wick and see if that works

    • @OliveDrabAlliance
      @OliveDrabAlliance  2 месяца назад

      I think that is the only way to go with this experiment, to use the stone as a wick.
      To what end? I don't know. It might be a big nothing burger, but a wick is what im thinking too.
      Thanks

  • @iskandartaib
    @iskandartaib 3 месяца назад +3

    The rubbing alcohol (isopropanol) should be fairly benign, but HEET is actually 99% methanol (I confirmed this by looking up the MSDS). NOT something you'd like to have around when preparing food. There is something called "ISO-HEET", which I suspect is mostly isopropanol.

    • @ravenbarsrepairs5594
      @ravenbarsrepairs5594 3 месяца назад +2

      Backpackers figured out long ago that ISO-HEET(the red bottle) actually has too much water in it to burn hot enough to cook. The Yellow bottle HEET is a commonly used fuel.

    • @iskandartaib
      @iskandartaib 3 месяца назад +1

      @@ravenbarsrepairs5594 I'd avoid it because it's methanol. You should be able to get more or less pure rubbing alcohol (isopropanol) as in the video, that'd be safer. I suppose denataured alcohol (mostly ethanol) would also be safer, depending on what they use to denature it with - in some cases they use methanol.

    • @OliveDrabAlliance
      @OliveDrabAlliance  3 месяца назад

      You've got me wondering how clean does it burn? I'm sure none of it is good to consume, but doesn't it burn cleaner than the natural gas we use at home?

    • @iskandartaib
      @iskandartaib 3 месяца назад +3

      @@OliveDrabAlliance You mean how much soot you get? Probably depends on how much air it gets. Methanol does burn quite clean, much like ethanol, most of the time.. if the flames are blue rather than yellow that means there isn't much soot being produced. With methanol I would be worried about the vapors, especially before you light it. And you can absorb it through your skin if you spill it on you.

    • @OliveDrabAlliance
      @OliveDrabAlliance  3 месяца назад

      @@iskandartaib I appreciate that. I will definitely be more careful with exposure and not use it indoors.
      Thank you

  • @akbychoice
    @akbychoice 3 месяца назад +1

    I tried one grill cleaning stone, it melted. Not sure what it was made of, it wasn’t pumice.
    I tried fire-brick it didn’t work very well.

    • @OliveDrabAlliance
      @OliveDrabAlliance  3 месяца назад +2

      The rectangular toilet cleaning stones I used fell apart after the flame went out.
      I don't know where this will lead to, but I originally thought if the pourus material filled with fuel, then maybe the fuel wouldn't burn off so quickly, but now I'm thinking the material shoukd act more as a wick
      ???
      Thanks for watching

  • @oneproudbrowncoat
    @oneproudbrowncoat 3 месяца назад +1

    Wonder what'd happen if you put a dense pumice stone in a vacuum jar with some gel fuel, and then took it out?

    • @OliveDrabAlliance
      @OliveDrabAlliance  3 месяца назад

      I don't know... interesting question. I know some people I might ask about this.
      Thanks

    • @oneproudbrowncoat
      @oneproudbrowncoat 3 месяца назад +1

      @@OliveDrabAlliance Just remember that some of it will evaporate that way, because of the lower pressure.

  • @larryjanson4011
    @larryjanson4011 2 месяца назад +1

    your fuel choices do burn. just a invisible flame in daylight.
    in the dark it is very visible. some even say pretty.

    • @OliveDrabAlliance
      @OliveDrabAlliance  2 месяца назад

      For sure! Alcohol is funny that way. A lot of the time I second guess myself as to whether or not it is lit and try to light it again.
      Thank you for watching & be safe out there!

  • @roberthoffman5951
    @roberthoffman5951 3 месяца назад +1

    What did you prove?

    • @OliveDrabAlliance
      @OliveDrabAlliance  3 месяца назад +3

      Not much. I wanted to see if this might be a way to cook out on the trail while camping or backpacking.I think with some adjustments it might be useful.

  • @dlighted8861
    @dlighted8861 3 месяца назад +1

    A true wcientist would have taken the hot stone and seen if it would still remove callous.🤗😉🤗

    • @OliveDrabAlliance
      @OliveDrabAlliance  3 месяца назад

      YOWZA!!!!!
      Calluses no...
      3rd degree burns.... possible?
      Hahaha
      Thank you

  • @shaynecarter-murray3127
    @shaynecarter-murray3127 2 месяца назад +1

    "Some people like their feet to be soft" sounded so derogatory...ever had a cracked heel? They suck. Removing callous and using lotion keeps that from happening

    • @OliveDrabAlliance
      @OliveDrabAlliance  2 месяца назад

      You're right, my apologies. I've never had to do that stuff.
      Thank you

  • @choccolocco
    @choccolocco 2 месяца назад +1

    Foil it, and put a wick in the hole and form the foil around it.

    • @OliveDrabAlliance
      @OliveDrabAlliance  2 месяца назад +1

      I thought about melting some aluminum and coating 90% of it with aluminum.
      I need to follow up this video for sure. I just haven't yet.
      Thanks for watching

    • @choccolocco
      @choccolocco 2 месяца назад

      @@OliveDrabAlliance
      That should work well.

  • @thomasdemaio53
    @thomasdemaio53 3 месяца назад +1

    Cool, but not denatured alcohol

    • @OliveDrabAlliance
      @OliveDrabAlliance  3 месяца назад

      As far as i understand, methanol and isopropyl alcohol are considered to be denatured alcohol.
      I'm totally prepared to hear you out. Perhaps I am mistaken?

  • @moshkateer9595
    @moshkateer9595 2 месяца назад +1

    So what was the point of this experiment?

    • @OliveDrabAlliance
      @OliveDrabAlliance  2 месяца назад

      I'm into camping Stoves and I've seen something called a "pill bottle stove". Basically it is round pieces of pizza stone that fit in a pill bottle and soak in alcohol. I was trying to see if pumice would work the same way. It doesn't.
      I did a follow up video (that I have since removed on my own accord) trying a couple other things along with pumice stones. Basically I was trying to use the stone like a wick in that video. I ended up building something that maybe people shouldn't try at home so I took it down. I do have one other thing I want to try with the pumice stone as a wick idea.
      Maybe today or tomorrow

  • @Forewarned76
    @Forewarned76 Месяц назад +1

    It comes from a volcano Yin Yang

  • @haidafella8651
    @haidafella8651 3 месяца назад +1

    Almost like lava stone

    • @OliveDrabAlliance
      @OliveDrabAlliance  3 месяца назад

      They say you learn something new everyday....
      I always thought it was a man made material.
      Thanks for watching

  • @flyyinryan
    @flyyinryan 3 месяца назад +1

    Only way the callouses on my feet get removed is a sanding drum in my dewalt...!

  • @claymore609
    @claymore609 2 месяца назад +1

    How about using the stone as a "Wick"?
    *Shallow container.

    • @OliveDrabAlliance
      @OliveDrabAlliance  2 месяца назад

      I think that is definitely the next step. The stone is no good as a vessel, but maybe as a wick.
      Thank you

  • @Riley1524
    @Riley1524 2 месяца назад +1

    Just dont use heet for cooking. Its methanol...Thats the reason you couldnt see the flame

  • @tom_olofsson
    @tom_olofsson 3 месяца назад +3

    Excellent. You do not need the music. People who do not offer useful info need to fill the time with music. Just sayin.

    • @OliveDrabAlliance
      @OliveDrabAlliance  3 месяца назад

      I do like the music. It's crazy, because 9 times out of 10, I hate watching videos with music, but when I make a video.... I put music in it.
      Thanks for the input, I do appreciate it very much.
      Have a great day & take care

    • @tom_olofsson
      @tom_olofsson 3 месяца назад

      @@OliveDrabAlliance Its your video. I am just saying you do not need it. You have good content. 👍🏻

  • @The9001398
    @The9001398 3 месяца назад +1

    Pumice is lava rock

    • @OliveDrabAlliance
      @OliveDrabAlliance  3 месяца назад +1

      I never knew that. I always thought it was a man made material.
      Now I know and feel kind of dumb, but happy to learn something.
      Thank you

    • @The9001398
      @The9001398 3 месяца назад +1

      @@OliveDrabAlliance I mean honestly not many grow up around lava rock anyway.

    • @OliveDrabAlliance
      @OliveDrabAlliance  3 месяца назад +1

      @The9001398 I would like to visit the lava rocks someday, maybe not live there, just visit. Nothing wrong with living there... I'm just used to being able to run a plow through the ground ya know?

    • @The9001398
      @The9001398 3 месяца назад +1

      @@OliveDrabAlliance I would love to see that as well..and deserts but I can't fathom how anyone survived without lots of trees around. Loved the video. Ever since I saw some of the cooking stones around I wonder if pumice would work. But since I camp in woods, I'll stick with my tiny rocket stove.

    • @OliveDrabAlliance
      @OliveDrabAlliance  3 месяца назад

      @The9001398 alway stick with tried and true methods, as long as they are available. Keep training & prepping buddy

  • @allyourpie4323
    @allyourpie4323 3 месяца назад +1

    It is lava :)

    • @OliveDrabAlliance
      @OliveDrabAlliance  3 месяца назад

      Touche. I didn't know that. I thought they were made from synthetic or man made materials.
      Thank you

    • @allyourpie4323
      @allyourpie4323 3 месяца назад +1

      @@OliveDrabAlliance Hey,you were spot on though!

    • @OliveDrabAlliance
      @OliveDrabAlliance  3 месяца назад

      @allyourpie4323 there is a first time for everything I guess.
      Thank you

  • @josephwarra5043
    @josephwarra5043 3 месяца назад +2

    IEEEEE!!!

  • @wontnotawill1356
    @wontnotawill1356 2 месяца назад +1

    "Feels almost like a lava rock"
    .... are you kidding dude... just wikipedia basic facts about the stuff you are going to be talking about before filming

    • @OliveDrabAlliance
      @OliveDrabAlliance  2 месяца назад

      Why use Wikipedia when I can learn from the comments?
      All kidding aside, I had no idea until I was told here on the comments. I don't pretend to know everything and I think that is part of the fun of the videos.
      I appreciate your comment and I hope you have a great day.

  • @ThePatriotsBrother
    @ThePatriotsBrother Месяц назад +1

    After hearing the dog whining right in the beginning I canceled the video. If you can’t take care of a dog properly I don’t want anything to do with you

    • @OliveDrabAlliance
      @OliveDrabAlliance  Месяц назад +1

      I would invite you to come and meet my dogs. I assure you they are not only very well taken care of, but also very spoiled.
      I have two rescue dogs and one that has never known the horrors of the pound, we love all three and they are the best dogs ever.