Stokely is manufacturing disc and he's looking for people to test , review, and give them their appropriate flight numbers.Seems like a perfect fit for the Bodanza lab
Great review, thanks! Would a wall suffice for the collision tests instead of a tree? Trees are pretty tough, but they can take bark damage that isn't immediately obvious, and they take a long time to grow...
This is actually maybe the most important question in disc golf. It is SUCH a new sport and there's much to be tried. If we're to reach the heights of ball golf, we NEED to celebrate innovation over performance. Bad discs will sort themselves out, but we can't get complacent or elitist this early on.
I think disc golf Needs innovation like all sports do or the sports stagnate. I say, take a simple sport like running and how a bunch of brands now have a carbon fiber plate in running and track/cross country spikes including some higher end Chinese brands like One Mix or Health for lower cost by not spending on marketing and/or sponsoring runners, possibly race events.
that water test was a meme right? holding it adds way more variables to the test than placing it on a controlled surface like a table or flat surface. So i'ma go with it being a meme.
This is a waste time. Just go straight to four plastics: one on top of rim, one on bottom, one on top of flight plate, one on bottom. Can you imagine the grip and the flight and the stability and the understability and the glide and the push and the skip and the distance and the control??
After watching this video im happy for everything you got. You deserve it all, the editing and knowledge to wearing a lab coat and goggles😂 it’s great very enjoyable to watch disc golf is better with you in it
So far Clash seems to be doing very well well in the Canadian market. There discs sell out often, and they never have any special stamps or pro collabs.
I have one of these. Super flippy, but when hit at the correct angle, it's within 15ft of my max distance with any disc. 100% agree about how great it feels edit: I'd like to see a comparison between the prototype Brave and production Brave. I have a proto, and it flies more like 7/6/-2/1...
They wouldn’t rough up the surface after it’s molded during production, they would make the mold is such a way that the surface finish is what they need it to be. But since it’s a prototype they might be testing different degrees of roughness, and thus doing it manually because injection molds are f**ing expensive.
Tbh I think you’d prefer the domey ones. You can really torque on those. Also I know I’m just some rando but watch that slowmo back when you’re throwing at the tree… if you would use your arm just a touch more when you throw you’re hitting 500. Looks like you’re “pushing” out from the back side of your chest. Activate the arm sooner and get the release more on your sternum. If you do this and keep the pff arm should back you will bomb. ( these 2 issues together is why you hit your chest on a throw here. You closed off and “released” early.) I wanna see you hit it dude. There is no feeling like the first time you hit 500.
Day 2 of doing 20 pushups for every putt Bodanza prolly shoulda made. Had to be a little less forgiving since it was a partial round. Time stamps: 8:3313:4214:47 Pushup count: 60
If this turns out to work, I bet MVP just guys Clash. Anyways, undermould being more flippy makes perfect sense. When a more rubbery disc flies, the angular momentum bends the disc outward causing the parting line to be higher on the disc compared to a more solid plastic that will hold its shape more. The "gyro" concept of more weight on the outside leading to more stability has no basis in physics at all, and is pure marketing, but differences in plastic flexibility are absolutely a big factor and you pretty much demonstrated that today.
lol no idea, they sent me a dx invader and I was like, weird... then a week later this showed up with the same merry christmas mesage hahahah, probably because I ordered lots of custom stuff through them last year
Love how good you're getting at structuring these videos. I mean, your editing + brain for creating content is WILD. The aesthetics of Silas Schultz' videos and brilliance of yours would be a very interesting collab 😅
Clash's discs and plastic are really good. If they can get a good consistent new tech it could be great for them and I hope they manage it. Competition is always a good thing for innovation.
Honestly your concept of flat discs is a slight miss. I throw clash and mostly flat discs, the difference is hard to explain with a graph but it flips without arcing up and right like a domey disc. Your aim point on your shots needs adjusted to point mid high right on overstable, and aim top left corner on 15° hyzer. Trust me.
I've always heard that a flat top won't turn as easily and won't fade as easily as a domey one. That seems to fit my experience. Have you experienced the opposite? @10:57?
to me, the flatter the disc, the more side to side movement you'll get. midflight gets sucked out and it dumps harder at the end rather than gliding out. If it doesn't fade, it'll fall instead of gliding out I've found personally
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Stokely is manufacturing disc and he's looking for people to test , review, and give them their appropriate flight numbers.Seems like a perfect fit for the Bodanza lab
would love to
youtube.com/@ScottStokelyDG ^_^
@@BodanzaDiscGolf I preordered a couple. If you can’t get them, let me know!
The music on this one is dope. But on a real note I love your content my adhd brethren.
I'm so glad that we have a company like Clash that's willing to try weird stuff. I think innovation is incredibly important to our game.
Other companies try things too, they just don’t seek defective discs to consumers
Innovation is nice, but proper testing before releasing a product to the market is necessary in my opinion, especially at their prices.
Great review, thanks! Would a wall suffice for the collision tests instead of a tree? Trees are pretty tough, but they can take bark damage that isn't immediately obvious, and they take a long time to grow...
We need more Content from "The Lab" with "Dr. Bo-Danza"
I agree! It’s fun to watch the lab!
I agree. Clash needs to keep experimenting with this. It can be nicer than MVP's overmold imo.
You should go no hat and crazy hair when you are in “The Lab”
Christopher Lloyd and Gene Wilder both agree. I take their opinions on mad scientists very seriously.
could try that
What are your thoughts on the innovation risk to reward landscape in disc golf right now?
This is actually maybe the most important question in disc golf. It is SUCH a new sport and there's much to be tried. If we're to reach the heights of ball golf, we NEED to celebrate innovation over performance. Bad discs will sort themselves out, but we can't get complacent or elitist this early on.
I love the idea, but I'll never spend 35 bucks on one disc. Too many good ones out there to try art half the price.
The harder plastic might be more like dx if it flies less stable (question mark)
I think disc golf Needs innovation like all sports do or the sports stagnate. I say, take a simple sport like running and how a bunch of brands now have a carbon fiber plate in running and track/cross country spikes including some higher end Chinese brands like One Mix or Health for lower cost by not spending on marketing and/or sponsoring runners, possibly race events.
@@mindlander I am thinking discs in a premium baseline more like a stiff XT or KC Pro and if not, a stiff run of Champion/Z to a gummy Champion/Z.
that water test was a meme right? holding it adds way more variables to the test than placing it on a controlled surface like a table or flat surface. So i'ma go with it being a meme.
i like the idea of the video. and all. just too much nonsense around the subject. get to the point man.
I've seen a few people with the new Tone and it seems like a bomber! Will be interesting to see where this goes and what happens
Almost the exact same lab as Trevor Staub has…
This is a waste time. Just go straight to four plastics: one on top of rim, one on bottom, one on top of flight plate, one on bottom. Can you imagine the grip and the flight and the stability and the understability and the glide and the push and the skip and the distance and the control??
lol
After watching this video im happy for everything you got. You deserve it all, the editing and knowledge to wearing a lab coat and goggles😂 it’s great very enjoyable to watch disc golf is better with you in it
This lab is noticeably missing a flat surface like a table or something to do these experiments and comparisons.
that's more on the labber than the lab itself lol, will incorporate that more!
That tree is pissed.
You're correct about the roughing up of the surface to get 2 surfaces to adhere together. This technique is also used for making handles with clay.
So far Clash seems to be doing very well well in the Canadian market. There discs sell out often, and they never have any special stamps or pro collabs.
A bunch of baskets thrown in the middle of an open field, a discgolf course does not make.
-Grandpa Yoda.
I’m hoping this has more potential than double steady, seems like a solid idea. Been looking forward to seeing someone throw these on a course I know
We know you just had a distance increase but cmon now. You don’t throw THAT hard
Water test is vey silly as different plastics will have different tension or stickyness to water
Anthony what age did you starts playing disc and how old are you now?
The tone salt has the exact some flight as my I-blend Pharaoh 🤔
Damn Anthony seems like youre gonna have to bite the bullet on a new camera
Saying water "does seem to dome off" makes no sense.
foot fault
Second.
C'mon...who just goes out to the course and throws 18+ full power shots into trees?
Not this guy, for sure....no sir. Not this guy at all.
😂
I have one of these. Super flippy, but when hit at the correct angle, it's within 15ft of my max distance with any disc.
100% agree about how great it feels
edit: I'd like to see a comparison between the prototype Brave and production Brave. I have a proto, and it flies more like 7/6/-2/1...
I just tried mine out today as well. Mine was SUPER flippy, even more so than yours 😅
They wouldn’t rough up the surface after it’s molded during production, they would make the mold is such a way that the surface finish is what they need it to be. But since it’s a prototype they might be testing different degrees of roughness, and thus doing it manually because injection molds are f**ing expensive.
Need a plastics company outside the industry to actually innovate probably... I bet magpul could come up with something cool...
Tbh I think you’d prefer the domey ones. You can really torque on those. Also I know I’m just some rando but watch that slowmo back when you’re throwing at the tree… if you would use your arm just a touch more when you throw you’re hitting 500. Looks like you’re “pushing” out from the back side of your chest. Activate the arm sooner and get the release more on your sternum. If you do this and keep the pff arm should back you will bomb. ( these 2 issues together is why you hit your chest on a throw here. You closed off and “released” early.) I wanna see you hit it dude. There is no feeling like the first time you hit 500.
Day 2 of doing 20 pushups for every putt Bodanza prolly shoulda made. Had to be a little less forgiving since it was a partial round.
Time stamps: 8:33 13:42 14:47
Pushup count: 60
If this turns out to work, I bet MVP just guys Clash.
Anyways, undermould being more flippy makes perfect sense. When a more rubbery disc flies, the angular momentum bends the disc outward causing the parting line to be higher on the disc compared to a more solid plastic that will hold its shape more.
The "gyro" concept of more weight on the outside leading to more stability has no basis in physics at all, and is pure marketing, but differences in plastic flexibility are absolutely a big factor and you pretty much demonstrated that today.
Noticeable work you been putting in lately Tony B. Swing plane looking tidy on some of these!
If you add a few drops of dish soap in the cup, it will break the surface tension of the water making your water test more clear and accurate
I think the act of folding the disc back is call disc tuning. Apparently it's an illegal thing to do? J Milly has a recent video about it.
Gateway does all sorts of random R&D stuff with blends.
Love your thoughts on this. Definitely a fun disc to review! I had a blast throwing it at a wall lol
best review of a disc I've seen in a while. love clash for getting weird.
Thank you for the metric values!
Could you do a review on the Millenium test flight ES1? Somewhat flippy 11-speed according to numbers, havent seen any other reviews on it
haven't even heard of it! If they wanna send one out I'd for sure make a Banana Frolf video for it!
Why would Innova send you a Beast? 😂 I personally love the Beast, but I don't have the arm speed you do. Not to mention DX!? DX!?😂
lol no idea, they sent me a dx invader and I was like, weird... then a week later this showed up with the same merry christmas mesage hahahah, probably because I ordered lots of custom stuff through them last year
Gotta love the Bodanza Lab!
Love how good you're getting at structuring these videos. I mean, your editing + brain for creating content is WILD. The aesthetics of Silas Schultz' videos and brilliance of yours would be a very interesting collab 😅
Clash's discs and plastic are really good. If they can get a good consistent new tech it could be great for them and I hope they manage it. Competition is always a good thing for innovation.
100%
Cool testing! Not on topic, but do you know of anyone who might have lost a drone at Upper Badlands?
i don't!
What can I say, you’re basically Bill Nye at this point.
hahaha
im so early
Hmm the lab feels a lil trevor stauby ;)
Honestly your concept of flat discs is a slight miss. I throw clash and mostly flat discs, the difference is hard to explain with a graph but it flips without arcing up and right like a domey disc. Your aim point on your shots needs adjusted to point mid high right on overstable, and aim top left corner on 15° hyzer. Trust me.
Title: Why is no one talking about this?
5 seconds in: you’ve probably seen this all over social media and RUclips.
hahaha, that's why there's a thumbnail too
Looked like it flew nice
I've always heard that a flat top won't turn as easily and won't fade as easily as a domey one. That seems to fit my experience. Have you experienced the opposite? @10:57?
to me, the flatter the disc, the more side to side movement you'll get. midflight gets sucked out and it dumps harder at the end rather than gliding out. If it doesn't fade, it'll fall instead of gliding out I've found personally
Dang, that lab coat suits you nicely 🫠 (even with the goggles, or because of them? 🙀)