I still can't believe some people on twitter don't like Agnes. She such a great character. I like Elaine she's my top 10 favourite female character in this series, but...after watching this ending i hope Van stay with Agnes
I think if Van had accepted Agnes's love confession on the rooftop mid-game, she would have reconsidered in going through this, since after that scene she had been quite distant from the team and well Van as well.
Well for what i see.. van said she purposely wear her uniform to make reject her easily.. which means she trick him.. should van accept her feelings i don't think she would do this.. but for me i was wondering what's in her uniform though?
My guess would be that she confessed this night because she knew that she has to get some distance between herself and the team so that the plan can go according to plan. And she probably only confessed so that she can vanish with no/less regrets.
i dont think so... as you can see even several nuclear bombs cannot destroy 至宝, and it can recover itself by simply going back in time. The key must be using Genesis to hack it + Van's demon lord in the "endless expanse" (might also use power from Rean and Crow, and from Nina)
@@makoto_lys yeah, Gramheart has pretty much done everything reasonable he could have done to prevent this from happening. Can't exactly predict the chest pulling out Ishmelga with the ability to timejump out of its ass. You ain't beating the power of 3 sept terrions combined with conventional means.
The world resets - another Great Collapse. Agnes interferes with said event, sending all of Zemuria back in time except herself, shaping the next game. Can assume that she's most likely an entity similar to Demiourgos, but not the Sept-Terrion itself as that's probably big ominous object in space. Who will initially remember, who will eventually, and who will never. Space, Mirage, Fire and Earth, now Time. Still have 2 more Sept-Terrions to go. And Ouroboros' true purpose to be revealed. Along with their other members. Falcom saying they're mostly done with this series. However who knows how many games that will actually be...
The World Resets... another Grand Reset.. hence Trails in the Sky 1st R, The R is RESET not remake probably LOL it really is reset starting with Joshua and Estelle.
@@gioelealpizar6009 in the Zoom call (lmao) Lapis said Agnes became existence similar to her scarlet fairy (Crimson Sin) but unlike Lapis, she can't reverse the process.
It's not another great collapse. The great collapse happened right before the time cycle started and it was a physical event. The great reset is a space time shift back to year 0 of the septian calendar
From what I gathered: (SPOILERS) (UPDATED) -Roy's plan to test the world and fight the cube in space; Septerrion of Time; triggered a Grand Reset that happened like a shit ton of times already -Agnes was working with Latoya, Nina (Saint of the End), Ouroboros etc to use the Geneses since they were MADE FOR THIS. A failsafe against the Grand Reset. -We're soft resetting because she hacked the Grand Reset and presumably going back to Daybreak/Kuro 1 time but without her. Found out a bit more while watching a stream with MTL: -This happens on Agnes's birthday, and basically Roy's plan was done so her present would be ||not to have to sacrifice herself|| -Agnes and the others worked on this plan since they more or less knew Roy's plan would fail anyway -There's something dropped that the Claudel's are the only ones who can do this minor regression and it has something to do with their blood line. That's why in daybreak/kuro 1 the first Genesis reacts to Agnes the way it did and whatnot. It's implied by Roy that this is what happened to her Grandmother and Mother. They already did a regression and it's why he knows about the Septerrion of TIme and was able to put this Star Taker plan into motion.
I thought of playing Kai no Kiseki but I have changed my mind.I would wait until the next Kiseki Released 😂😂😂.Sigh.. this frustration reminded me of Sen no kiseki 3 😢😅
I'm just gonnna cope and say it ain't over since I don't see a "Fin" at the end and that Van's final episode is either DLC or a hidden path. If not, then I guess next game.
Sorry but I was not prepared for this. Not only we got Cold Steel 3 cliffhanger style but the bad ending too. Seriously what's with no 3 and Falcom. Edit: someone else said it's like ys 8. Why Falcom why..do you guys love downer ending that much😭
@@MandalorOrdo you are an optimist, aren't you? 70% of Kuro's plotthreads weren't resolved by the end of this game, and we aren't even getting to main points of the series.
I want to say Kamen Rider Ryuki since Van is basically a Kamen Rider. I think most people will say Madoka Magica tho because Agnes is sort of goddess. Also her outfit is gorgeous.
so....... the world got.......reset? Gods how are we going to even try to fix this......can we fix this? Is Agnes just doomed from now on? What the heck does this mean for the future.
If I'm getting it right then the sept terrion was attempting to reset the world, but Agnes changed the effect to only resetting the last year (Daybreak/Kuro 1 onwards)
From my understanding, the world gets a second chance at trying to fight the Sept-Terrion of Time, but Agnes is now gone. Time rewound to beginning of Kuro 1 essentially
@@weaboosama6706 Yeah I hear you, I've stated similar sentiments in other comments. Coping it will actually mean something but they constantly undo things.
@@weaboosama6706 I have.... and yeah i know they suck at ever making deaths stick. Its just having to hit us with a cliffhanger that's more annoying than cs3's.....is..... I don't think I've ever been more.....I don't even know how to describe it. And when it comes to deaths this is not one I'd want to stick anyway, so I'm not necessarily going to get angry over that. Just have the most horrible anxious butterflies while waiting for a year or two....
@@agylhisyam6727van will definitely have the memory, but inside his demonic core So he has to get it again from Dante to unlock the memory But the problem is the triggered for event in Daybreak 1, Agnes is the one that triggered the event in Daybreak 1 that make van search for octo genesis, I think next game is Yume the one that make and motivate van search for octo genesis and getting his demonic core again
Reset? Angès became some kind of saint? Was this in part of completing the Orpheus Final Plan from Ouroboros? There are so many questions that NEED answering, Falcom.
I have so many questions about this ending What's that big thing in the space? Why did agnes became "goddess"? What's grand reset? Will it affect the entirety of kiseki from liberl arc to calvard or just calvard? What was yume/mare doing there behind agnes? What's the point of going to space?
1. That big thing is the one that resetting the world many times, so right now it's basically year of reset in zemuria 2. Agnes didn't became goddess 3. Grand reset is basically what it say, resetting everything, so yes if it's success it will reset everything and it will be back to Sky 1 or way beyond that, Agnes with genesis kinda stop that and only triggering soft reset until Kuro 1, so the time reset stop in Kuro 1 but without Agnes since Agnes sacrifice herself 4. I think it's indicator that some People will remember the reset timeline which maybe yume is one of them 5. To destroy the time reset devices so that the grand reset will not happened
@@yoyok7609 Adding some detail 1. Sept Terrion of times 2. She didn't i think 3.. It's grand reset, which return the Zemuria to year 0 and reset everything. Agnes using genesis to stop that (it is Dingo effort make Agnes capable using genesis) by rewind times (most likely to kuro 1) but with implication she's erased from existence 4. No idea, good theory from above 5. To expose the truth of Zemuria, which revealed there's no star, moon, and sun in the sky, and even Aidios nowhere to be seen. There's only creepy spherical wall that covered entirely of Zemuria surrounding even sea beyond Zemuria. This discovery activated sept terrion of the Times defense mechanism and starting Grand Reset sacrament, the one Roy Gramheart want to stop no matter what and prevent Agnes using Oct Genesis.
Septerrion of time. Who do grand reset(great collapse) every 1200 years or if someone tried to destroy it. It also responsible for the illusion in the sky and the wall in zemuria.
OMG this is ending reset time. next chapter maybe will take very long time trails sky1-3 remake, zero & ao remake, cold steel 1- 4 + reveire remake, daybreak 1-2 remake and kai remake [true ending].
最後に「To be continued Van,s Final episode」って事は、 次回でヴァンの物語は終わりって事かな?🤔 でも次回で軌跡シリーズが完結って事は無いでしょうから、 次回作以降は新しい主人公を軸にした展開になるのでしょうか? リベール、クロスベル、帝国、共和国と来て……次は何処なんだろう。
1. Anything answered about the "beyond" that mcburn came from? 2. So is septerrion of time superior over all other septerrion since it kind of can reset/affect them? 3. Anyting revealed about grandmaster and adios? 4. Is the reset triggered by humanity/someone action or time based?
Yes reset is triggered earlier since Hermes basically see the truth of zemuria, I think that other Rean tell that it was supposed to happen in 1210 but it was happening in 1209(correct me if I am wrong) Also septerrion of time I think equal to space since it bend time The other 2 is unknown, the 1st one maybe in next game but the 3rd question is still not have answered
So Agnes made the reset to Kuro 1, right? But then would the events of Kuro 1 still happen? When you think about it, Almata's plan was to turn Gerald into a demon with the demonic core. But that core isnt even in Zemuria when the reset happened, so theoricaly, it shouldnt be affected by the reset and should still be out of Zemuria. And if Van regains it(probably whenever Vagrant tries to possess him again), would the memories of the events come back to him? Really though, Kai didnt answer anything, and gave us more questions If nothing else, hey Dingo is alive again😅
It certainly gave more questions but to say it answered nothing is wrong. We know most of the truth of the universe that Zemuria is situated in now. The next question is 'why' its like that. etc.
How are they supposed to sell their next filler game otherwise? They have to throw that juicy cliffhanger at the last minute to keep their mistreated audience captive.
@@joshuagraham1598 They've already pulled this shit with FC/SC, Cold Steel I/II, Cold Steel III/IV and Daybreak I/II. Damn, it's almost like they've been stretching their games out and filling them with hot air for a long time, just so they can sell one game for the price of two! When will you people wake up and finally see you've been scammed?
They get reset as well, this soft reset that Agnes does is probably reset until Kuro 1, which basically rean and everyone is doing their thing when kuro 1 start Or Rean and others is one of many people that remember erased timeline
喪失感が半端ない…
why did i open the video, now that scene literally leave a hole in my heart, i'm not prepared for this 😭
welcome to the club
ハッキングして再構築(保存されたゼムリア時空をロード)1208年~1209年の間のいずれかに戻ってアニエスがいなかった世界線になる あの場にいたユメ持つアルバムがきっかけで思い出す展開かな
"Together, we shall write the end to this wretched fairy tale. In ink, white as hope."
Coming Soon.
今日やっとクリアしたけど、またつらいエンド作ったなぁ…
だけど、それが軌跡なんだよな
次回作はヴァンとアニエスが出会う直前までさかのぼるけどアニエスがいない時間軸のパラレルワールド(並行世界)でヴァンが何かの拍子でアニエスのことを思い出し解決に乗り出すって話になるんだろうね。これ完結するまであと10年は必要だと思うけど大丈夫なの?
待つしかないって事
ちゃんと終わらせてくれる事を
5:36, that’s a face of despair poor Van
😢😢
He finally understands the feeling of losing
I still can't believe some people on twitter don't like Agnes. She such a great character. I like Elaine she's my top 10 favourite female character in this series, but...after watching this ending i hope Van stay with Agnes
isn't it more like Agnes x Van pair and not Agnes herself?
@@zbigbozbboy5245i saw both of them tbh, but yeah.. a lot of them from people don't like Van x Agnes
@@SafdarSap the way Van memories about Agnes literally get shredded is painful. my theory about both of them leaving Zemuria was busted though.
Agnes as a main female lead >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> alisa
@@marethyux3744Alisa is such low standard.
最後のアニエスの言葉ってどっちの意味なんやろ
「いつか還るあなたのために」だったらヴァン達がこの場所(時間軸)に帰ってきたときのために布石等を残してくって意味になるし、「いつか帰る、あなたのために」だと私はあなたの下にいつか帰りますよって意味に取れる
ファミ通情報に共和国編終わって最終編進みます軌跡シリーズ作っ人がコメントありました新作続編あります
@@syoutakomori5957 Would you be able to post a link?
たぶん前者な気がする
韓国語版の字幕では前者でしたよ
最後の右下に次でヴァンの最後の話って書いてあるやろ
空の軌跡FCの次くらいの喪失感…
終わってからのメイン画面に出てくるアニエスがまた儚くてしんどかった
他の部分の評価はさておいて今回は余韻がひどい
界の軌跡
結局グレンデル化とは?→わかりません
メアの正体は?→わかりません
クルガの使命とは?→わかりません
燕を推してたのは?→わかりません
ニナは?→出番僅少…なにしてたの?
盟主は?→ネトゲの中で会話して終了
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ジュディスのコンパクト、リゼットの正体
→わかりました
なんも進んでないw
@@フラン-r8o なんも肝心な謎明かされないいつもの軌跡だよ、これで軌跡シリーズ全体の物語9割終了とか冗談だろ近藤社長wwwwwww
さすがに酷すぎる
近藤社長は事前インタビューであらかたの謎が判明すると言ってたような?
蓋を開けたらリゼットとジュディスのことの触りだけしかわかってない
まさか近藤社長も枷に囚われているのか?
ってのは冗談としても毎年こんな作品を出して株主に何も言われないのが不思議で仕方ないわ
한국분들이나 일본분들이나 다 결말과 미스테리에 대해서 불만이
많군여 ㅠㅠ
I think if Van had accepted Agnes's love confession on the rooftop mid-game, she would have reconsidered in going through this, since after that scene she had been quite distant from the team and well Van as well.
Well for what i see.. van said she purposely wear her uniform to make reject her easily.. which means she trick him.. should van accept her feelings i don't think she would do this.. but for me i was wondering what's in her uniform though?
I don’t she would reconsidered there was no way to stop the grand reset unless she sacrifice.
My guess would be that she confessed this night because she knew that she has to get some distance between herself and the team so that the plan can go according to plan. And she probably only confessed so that she can vanish with no/less regrets.
@@charaxas452 She literally says as much just before transforming
I dont think it would change what she was gonna do at the end, it would prob just make it more tragic.
All of this could've been prevented if Lloyd let Normal end Rean talk in the end of Reverie
damn, onoreee Llyod
i dont think so... as you can see even several nuclear bombs cannot destroy 至宝, and it can recover itself by simply going back in time. The key must be using Genesis to hack it + Van's demon lord in the "endless expanse" (might also use power from Rean and Crow, and from Nina)
@@makoto_lys yeah, Gramheart has pretty much done everything reasonable he could have done to prevent this from happening. Can't exactly predict the chest pulling out Ishmelga with the ability to timejump out of its ass. You ain't beating the power of 3 sept terrions combined with conventional means.
外の理(存在)…マクバーンの『俺がいた世界は…もう」っていうセリフを考察すると
20000回帰の中で存在していた可能性もあるのかねぇ。
ノバルティスが19998回目の世界で存在していた人物だしなぁ。
外の理に対象する人物がゼムリア(星)外の存在だと定義するなら違うけど…謎が深まった。
でも「深淵エリア」はちゃんと今までこのゼムリア大陸の資料記録している...盟主は同じものかもしれないが…つまりとある場所・ものは回帰されないと思う(狭間?あるいは外の理)
@@makoto_lys
カンパネルラが最後のアニエスに「今回」みたいなことは初めてだって言ってたからやつも確実にループを外の存在だな
エクスキャリバーの巨像あったってことは前回もエクスキャリバー使って失敗してたのか。
ハミルトン知ってそうだったけど、それにしてはアニエスに向かって大統領の作戦は成功する可能性高いとかあのおばあさんが何したいのかまるで分からんw
なぜだ、、、なぜこうなった、、、アニエスぅぅ、、、また一年待たないといけないのか、、、
Hm, so the girl on the title is Agnes
They really pulled another Cold Steel 3 cliffhanger ending.
You damn right!!
Yeah expect Agnes to be back in the next game since the series has no stakes.
@@weaboosama6706its wild that the series is currently going over your head. Kuro has the highest stakes in the entire series
Damn is this event what Rean was trying to warn us about in Reverie?
Yeah and guess who’s the dumbass that could have prevented it
Yep. Lloyd better be taking responsibility in the next game 😭
@@bigenson18This is why Rean is best boy 😂
The world resets - another Great Collapse. Agnes interferes with said event, sending all of Zemuria back in time except herself, shaping the next game. Can assume that she's most likely an entity similar to Demiourgos, but not the Sept-Terrion itself as that's probably big ominous object in space.
Who will initially remember, who will eventually, and who will never.
Space, Mirage, Fire and Earth, now Time. Still have 2 more Sept-Terrions to go. And Ouroboros' true purpose to be revealed. Along with their other members.
Falcom saying they're mostly done with this series. However who knows how many games that will actually be...
The World Resets... another Grand Reset.. hence Trails in the Sky 1st R, The R is RESET not remake probably LOL it really is reset starting with Joshua and Estelle.
What we do know by kai is that Ouroboros and the Church are working together. So that means Ouroboros aren't evil neither is the Church.
Agnès....I wonder if, by interfering with the reset, she ended up ret-goning herself from existence? And how far does her reset even go? 😢😔🤔🤨🤔🤨
@@gioelealpizar6009 in the Zoom call (lmao) Lapis said Agnes became existence similar to her scarlet fairy (Crimson Sin) but unlike Lapis, she can't reverse the process.
It's not another great collapse. The great collapse happened right before the time cycle started and it was a physical event. The great reset is a space time shift back to year 0 of the septian calendar
Van:Confused so everything I ever did meant nothing
Xehanort: Yes Sora you don't know your true self or name
昨日丁度クリアしたばかりで喪失感がすごく感じて続編来て欲しいですし、ヴァン達裏解決屋達でアニエスを取り戻して欲しいです続編で!
次の作品、アニエスはもう出ないよ。
次の物語はアニエスとの思い出の記憶が無くなって取り戻して、復讐する物語だよ😅
社長「軌跡シリーズは終わると言ったが今回とは言っていない我々がその気になれば10年後や50年後またはその先も可能だということだ」
@@レンホワイトキャット-o7k 失礼で済まないけど、そんなに長引かせてどうするんだろうか?ファルコムさんは💧エスプタイン博士の謎とかの物語が次回作の内容とか昔の帝国やシーナ達の革命とか某○ラクエのロト三部作みたいな流れは嫌。
旧軌跡シリーズは終わり😊
そして、空の軌跡リメイクが誕生する
でも閃の軌跡Iの時もエンディングは歌付きだったし、おそらくだけど続くだろうね
this scene just made me tear up abit the first time and still makes me feel sad knowing what happen to agnes it really does stinks
From what I gathered: (SPOILERS) (UPDATED)
-Roy's plan to test the world and fight the cube in space; Septerrion of Time; triggered a Grand Reset that happened like a shit ton of times already
-Agnes was working with Latoya, Nina (Saint of the End), Ouroboros etc to use the Geneses since they were MADE FOR THIS. A failsafe against the Grand Reset.
-We're soft resetting because she hacked the Grand Reset and presumably going back to Daybreak/Kuro 1 time but without her.
Found out a bit more while watching a stream with MTL:
-This happens on Agnes's birthday, and basically Roy's plan was done so her present would be ||not to have to sacrifice herself||
-Agnes and the others worked on this plan since they more or less knew Roy's plan would fail anyway
-There's something dropped that the Claudel's are the only ones who can do this minor regression and it has something to do with their blood line. That's why in daybreak/kuro 1 the first Genesis reacts to Agnes the way it did and whatnot. It's implied by Roy that this is what happened to her Grandmother and Mother. They already did a regression and it's why he knows about the Septerrion of TIme and was able to put this Star Taker plan into motion.
Kai no kiseki created more questions more than it answered
@@Kenhnau_reeves 110% this
Ill wait till its in English but this might break the series for me
@@RetroNerdyGamer the day Kai no Kiseki gets released in English, Is the day Trails series ends
@@Kenhnau_reeves what why
@@RetroNerdyGamer 90% after Kai release, Probably just 1-2 games left, Can they translate Crimsin SiN and Kai before the series ends😂
i think they would have actually find a way to prevent it if lloyd didnt stop ishmelga rean from talking about it
agree
It was already fucked after CS4.
Yeah Lloyd basically the cause of this
And I bet the guy is chilling in Kai no Kiseki lol
@@yoyok7609 he will save the world again
@@BinhNguyen-u1k with the power of NAKAMA !!
I thought of playing Kai no Kiseki but I have changed my mind.I would wait until the next Kiseki Released 😂😂😂.Sigh..
this frustration reminded me of Sen no kiseki 3 😢😅
So the one saying farewell to zemuria is agnes, hence the title
Emilia/Hermes said it too. Out loud even.
'sigh' I kinda really hate massive cliffhangers.
度重なる引き延ばしでファン層をグランドリセットするな
しないしない。
次の新作12月発表してあるかも
I'm just gonnna cope and say it ain't over since I don't see a "Fin" at the end and that Van's final episode is either DLC or a hidden path. If not, then I guess next game.
Some are saying 'Van's Final Episode' could be a Grim Garten daydream like in Reverie (because its structured that way)
can't wait for next game
先ほどようやくクリアしましたが、新作まで待つの辛すぎる
早く続きを!
it remind me when fc end and we have to wait
Kai is another Avengers Infinity War yeesh...
to be continue??? plot twist again kondo!!
今までの数多くのアニメやゲーム作品のサブタイトルに『さよなら~』というのが入ってるが、
ほぼ全部はといえば、完全なサブタイ詐欺みたいな感じのハッピーエンドだったのだが…。
まさか、サブタイトルどおりのラストをしてくるとは思わなかった(辛すぎる
色々な意味でハードルを上げすぎた感はあるw
Dont' worry, Lloyd will save the world
lol
he will kiss cement to buy time for Rean and Rufus to get their 2nd S-crafts and save the World like they saved Crossbell.
@@coupdegrace2767I hate that scene, I don't like Lloyd that much but Kondo definitely disrespect the guy big time in reverie lol
グランドリセットでみんな消えて行く中、アニエスのグランドリセット再構築で復元して行くのがスタッフロールの部分ですね。
復元して行く代わりにアニエスが消滅して、終わり。
って流れですか。
次は再構築して救われた世界で、アニエスを救う為に裏解決屋が動く感じかな〜
アニエスも、だな。
Sorry but I was not prepared for this. Not only we got Cold Steel 3 cliffhanger style but the bad ending too. Seriously what's with no 3 and Falcom.
Edit: someone else said it's like ys 8. Why Falcom why..do you guys love downer ending that much😭
Who knows, thanks to what CS4 taught us it could just be one of the many multiverse that happens with how CS4 normal n true ending are both canon.
It's the way they found to gain money from ret4rds. Incomplete games with a false bad ending and in the next game we will return to the status quo
If you played cold steel 3 and 4 you should expect that none of this will really matter.....
@@weaboosama6706 maybe or maybe not. Even if it doesn't matter I'm just expressing what I thought of this ending🤷🏻♀️
Kondo baited everyone again when he said there wouldn't be a fourth game in the Calvard Arc
If the next game is the final and plays everywhere, then he wasnt lying. Dont know yet.
Kondo being full of shit? in other news grass is green.
@@MandalorOrdo who knows, Maybe DLC.
@@MandalorOrdo you are an optimist, aren't you? 70% of Kuro's plotthreads weren't resolved by the end of this game, and we aren't even getting to main points of the series.
@@coupdegrace2767 i dont argue that.
Kai 2: Lacrimosa of Agnes.
kai 2 agenss sunshine
I got better:
"Kai 2 from Zero: Azure Lacrimosa of Agnes"
個人的にクリアして思ったのが、
・今回のリセットを機に死んだキャラ達を再登場させようとしてない?
・来年出る空の軌跡リメイクが2万回目の世界線説ある?
・終盤の4spgで手に入るアニエス専用アクセサリーを持たせた状態で2周目クリアしたら隠しエンドとかある?
だった。
ないだろうな。パターン的には閃の軌跡に近いかな、あれは話が続くから歌ありのエンディングなのかも
Another cliffhanger-kun!!!!
the ending reminds me of Ys 8 + Tokyo Xanadu
I want to say Kamen Rider Ryuki since Van is basically a Kamen Rider. I think most people will say Madoka Magica tho because Agnes is sort of goddess. Also her outfit is gorgeous.
Creatively bankrupt Falcom. Can't believe people fell for this trashy emotionally-manipulative cliffhanger.
so....... the world got.......reset? Gods how are we going to even try to fix this......can we fix this? Is Agnes just doomed from now on? What the heck does this mean for the future.
If I'm getting it right then the sept terrion was attempting to reset the world, but Agnes changed the effect to only resetting the last year (Daybreak/Kuro 1 onwards)
From my understanding, the world gets a second chance at trying to fight the Sept-Terrion of Time, but Agnes is now gone.
Time rewound to beginning of Kuro 1 essentially
Lol have you played any of the other games? Agnes will be back mid way through the next game. The series has no stakes deaths don't mean anything.
@@weaboosama6706 Yeah I hear you, I've stated similar sentiments in other comments.
Coping it will actually mean something but they constantly undo things.
@@weaboosama6706 I have.... and yeah i know they suck at ever making deaths stick. Its just having to hit us with a cliffhanger that's more annoying than cs3's.....is..... I don't think I've ever been more.....I don't even know how to describe it. And when it comes to deaths this is not one I'd want to stick anyway, so I'm not necessarily going to get angry over that. Just have the most horrible anxious butterflies while waiting for a year or two....
Next kiseki, only van remember the previous timeline
I think only yume remember the previous timeline because her eyes is glow red
@@agylhisyam6727van will definitely have the memory, but inside his demonic core
So he has to get it again from Dante to unlock the memory
But the problem is the triggered for event in Daybreak 1, Agnes is the one that triggered the event in Daybreak 1 that make van search for octo genesis, I think next game is Yume the one that make and motivate van search for octo genesis and getting his demonic core again
1200年ごとにリセットを行うか否かを決める
だけどリゼットさんが50年後の世界から来たとするなら、
リセットされなかった世界線があるって事?
あと今回で9割は判明するはずだったんじゃ…??余計に謎が増えただけだったよw
およそ1200年であって、リセットするタイミングはまちまちだから別に矛盾はないと思いますよ
Reset? Angès became some kind of saint? Was this in part of completing the Orpheus Final Plan from Ouroboros? There are so many questions that NEED answering, Falcom.
Nope, Agnes actually working with Ouroborous and they said they hasn't started the plan yet.
she become agnes sunshine now
続き気になります次の新作発表して欲しいです
過去に回帰するから、未来のあるものは消滅か
このエンドが嫌いけど、曲がかなりいい
わかるわー なんか泣いちゃったもん
I don't like the singer but the song is pretty good
これも閃の軌跡みたいに、違う形でヴァンを救おうとしているのだろうか
ほんまに全体ストーリー9割まできてるんか笑
社長「当社比9割です😊」
I feel like this one is not timeline reset but similar to the situation from YS 8, that's why artifact from previous cycle can exist in the new cycle.
結局、謎は謎のままじゃないか。グランドリセットがなぜ起きるのかとかそれを起動させているのは誰なのかとさっぱり明かされていない。あとオルフェス計画も。。。
@@名無しです-w1d 失礼します、もしかしたら今後のアップデートやDLCで追加ストーリーがあってそれでトゥルーエンドが追加される可能性があると思いませんか?、発売したのは今日なのでまだ可能性があると思いますけど。
@@フレンズストーンさん
確かにアップデートかDLCでトゥルーエンディングがあるかもです。閃の軌跡4みたい?に
てっきり私は、空の軌跡から最初からになるかと思ってました。
@@メルトソードダンサー そうですよね、それで閃4見たいにノーマルエンドと追加アップデートかDLCでトゥルーエンドが追加される可能性があると思いますよ、少なくともこのまま終わりじゃおかしいと思いますし。
界プレイ前だが、軌跡なんてそんなもんだぞ自分はきっと最終作でも謎が仮に50個あるとしてその内の10~20は残ると思ってるし。
@@メルトソードダンサー
これ普通にありえそうなんだよな。空リメイクでループした別世界とかの可能性もでてきちゃった
どいつもこいつも俺まだ本気出してない感出して余裕ぶっこいて毎回このザマよ。肝心な時に役ただずしかいないお決まりのパターンね
いや、これは役立たずの次元じゃねーよ。これを人の手で出来たら奇跡だわ
the best jrpg series in history
With this shit writing
Haha not even close
@@loiskamiya9164 มีคนชอบก็มีคนเกลียด ขนาดฝั่งญี่ปุ่นรู้ว่ามีฉากจบออกมา พวกเขายังไม่สนใจ และ เพลิดเพลินกับเนื้อเรื่องได้ เลิกยัดเยียดความเกลียดใส่คอมเม้นคนอื่น เถอะ เด็กน้อย
Basically Trails version of Third Impact right?
Yep. The octogenesis even glow cross shaped like in Evangelion btw
Sounds just like honkai impact and ggz
次回が最終作が本当で真エンドも無いならシリーズの締めを飾る主人公がヴァンで確定やな。おめでとう。
その前に、空の軌跡リメイク、否、リブートまで時を戻さねばならない。
@@プリムローズU 空の軌跡のリメイクからやり直しの流れは止めて欲しい。界の軌跡のリスタートで未出演のロイドとエステルと仲間達を出す形になるかも。今度は酷な内容だがユメ坊が白い聖女に選ばれるとかか?身近に鉢合わせで立ち会った無関係者が後継者に選ばれるとか胸糞悪い展開は大鬱。禁忌目録的ご法度。
必ずThank you for playingを入れてて今回まだそれがないから追加エピソード確定よ
@@ks-zl4nj 閃3の時にThank you for play って表記ありましたっけ?
@@湊-t1r閃3はないよ、ファイナルエピソードって書いてた。それが書かれてたのは閃4やね
I have so many questions about this ending
What's that big thing in the space?
Why did agnes became "goddess"?
What's grand reset? Will it affect the entirety of kiseki from liberl arc to calvard or just calvard?
What was yume/mare doing there behind agnes?
What's the point of going to space?
1. That big thing is the one that resetting the world many times, so right now it's basically year of reset in zemuria
2. Agnes didn't became goddess
3. Grand reset is basically what it say, resetting everything, so yes if it's success it will reset everything and it will be back to Sky 1 or way beyond that, Agnes with genesis kinda stop that and only triggering soft reset until Kuro 1, so the time reset stop in Kuro 1 but without Agnes since Agnes sacrifice herself
4. I think it's indicator that some People will remember the reset timeline which maybe yume is one of them
5. To destroy the time reset devices so that the grand reset will not happened
@@yoyok7609
Adding some detail
1. Sept Terrion of times
2. She didn't i think
3.. It's grand reset, which return the Zemuria to year 0 and reset everything. Agnes using genesis to stop that (it is Dingo effort make Agnes capable using genesis) by rewind times (most likely to kuro 1) but with implication she's erased from existence
4. No idea, good theory from above
5. To expose the truth of Zemuria, which revealed there's no star, moon, and sun in the sky, and even Aidios nowhere to be seen. There's only creepy spherical wall that covered entirely of Zemuria surrounding even sea beyond Zemuria. This discovery activated sept terrion of the Times defense mechanism and starting Grand Reset sacrament, the one Roy Gramheart want to stop no matter what and prevent Agnes using Oct Genesis.
@@lavenkaser Wait, how did Dingo make sure Agnès's capable of using the Genesis?
@@astamanista9447by creating traumatic experience for Agnes to awaken time leap ability.
@@astamanista9447 Activating time leap ability
Most likely van will utilize all his previous lost powers (demon core) considering this will reset them all
Knew this game was gonna end on a cliffhanger, Also wtf is that thing in space?
Septerrion of time. Who do grand reset(great collapse) every 1200 years or if someone tried to destroy it. It also responsible for the illusion in the sky and the wall in zemuria.
辛すぎて2週目が出来ない😢
だが、それが物語の辛(から)さになる
@@帝国の緋色ノ騎士皇なるほど😭
5:46 ヴァンの顔はとても悲しい、全部を失う顔だ 😭
これは悪い意味での予想外だったよ。まさか、ヒロインが世界を変えてしまうなんて
Lesgooo😢
To Be Continue in Kai No Kiseki 2
もしやエプスタインの家系こそ、この至宝の関係者なのか?
アニエスの告白シーンからエンディング見た感じじゃ
ヴァンとアニエスが結ばれそう💦🎉
エレインがんばれ
Van x Agnes deserves a good ending
ED曲は好きだけどこの終わらせ方は納得いかない 、謎を発散させるだけさせて終わらせてるのがひどい。でもなんだかんだいって次回作も買うんだろうな。。。 あとアニエス推しとして最後のほうメインストーリーで使えないの悲しかった。
メインヒロインは結構酷い目にあうよな
創の軌跡みたいに完結するかと思ったらしなかった。途中から次回作に続く感じはしたけど。
クリアした感想としては、最初から最後まで寸止めされ続けて結局イケなかった感じ。ってかいい加減"その必要はない"から卒業してくれ。射○しそうなタイミングで男優が映る時ぐらい萎える。
SPレポートと時間の刻み具合で、ああこりゃあ綺麗に終わりそうにねぇなと思ってたw
@@Ryo-bz7py これなら黎の軌跡3で良かったんじゃねって思う。最後で界にすれば良かったのにね。
いや、界の軌跡で正解。それぞれの軌跡はその国にあった事。だからこれはゼムリアのある世[界]の軌跡
批判的な意見多めな気がしますが、私はかなり満足しました。
仮面勢はやっぱり過去のキャラでがっかりでしたが、宇宙の真相や刻の至宝・白グレンデルの衝撃の正体・魅力的な新執行者達等面白い要素は十分ありました。
新戦闘システムもかなり面白いですし、黎シリーズでは一番好きですね。
このクオリティで結構満足なので、次が最終作と言わずまだまだ続いて欲しいですね!
お前みたいなのがいるからファルコムが調子乗ってこんな浅い質の内容で奇跡シリーズを作り上げてるんだろうね。内容の質自体は2章程度に纏められた、次回作分も合わせても良かった程度の質だった。1作品内で綺麗な落とし所までユーザーを導くのは開発者としての責任。黎1のようなね。こんな終わり方するくらいなら発売2〜3年に1度でいいからドラクエ11のように全部まとめてから販売しろや
@@flower_xyz 昔から軌跡ってそういうゲームだし…
ドラクエ11だけやってろ。笑
普通に面白かったから満足。
OMG this is ending reset time. next chapter maybe will take very long time trails sky1-3 remake, zero & ao remake, cold steel 1- 4 + reveire remake, daybreak 1-2 remake and kai remake [true ending].
bruh
昨日クリアしました、閃4と一緒で、トゥルーED追加来ないかなと思っています❗
なんだこれ…
ヴァンだけでなく、プレイヤーも待たせる女
普通に終わらなかった…
閃の時よりも凄いかもな…。
黎の軌跡として見れば納得もできる展開ではある。(黎の軌跡じゃないんだけどさ)
人気が高い空シリーズも閃シリーズも、空1、閃1の最後を思い出せば似たようなもんではあった。
でも碧&零、閃、創、黎2と連続で未来視、デジャビュ、ループ、タイムリープ、歴史は繰り返しているネタを使い続けてるから食傷気味なんだよね。
演出も展開も、キャラの立ち位置さえ似通ってるから、「それ前にも見たよね?」ってのをゲーム内キャラじゃなくてプレイヤーが体験させられてる。
しかもスッキリ終わってくれないっていう。個人的には閃3よりも不完全燃焼感がひどい。
FF7で例えると、プレート落ちてエンディング、エアリス死んでエンディング、黒マテリア渡しちゃってエンディング、ウエポン出てきてエンディング……みたいな?
FF10ならミヘン・セッション終わってエンディングになっちゃったみたいな感じ? しかも続きは来年以降みたいな?
超大作といえば聞こえはいいけど、ちょっと細切れにしすぎっていうか、引き伸ばしすぎよね。
空の軌跡みたいに2部作+1くらいがちょうどいいよ。閃だって2で終わらないのかよ長いなぁって思ったし。
っていうか、2作品内で一応の一区切りすらもつかなかったのって黎&界が初めてじゃない?
空3rdはお祭り回のオマケディスク感あったし、閃2も最後の鉄血再登場意外はスッキリ終わってたし。閃3・4は閃1・2の拡大版って感じだし。創は空3rdに近いお祭り回だったでしょ。
碧&零は言わずもがな、碧でも零でもキレイに着地してたと思うし。
黎は2でもスッキリ決着つかなかったし(ヴァン個人の物語としては1時点で終わっちゃったほうがキリがよかったくらいで)、
界はコレだしで、実は初めてじゃない? 三作連続でこんなに不完全燃焼なのって。
マジで本当にそう
謎は全て回収しろとは言わないからせめて綺麗な落とし所まで持ってくのがゲーム開発者として最低限のユーザーに対する礼儀であり、責任。ユーザーにストレスだけ与えて終わる開発者オ◯ニーゲームはいい加減やめてほしい。ドラクエ11を見習えって感じ。
This is all Lloyd and Jusis' fault
🤣🤣🤣
まさかとは思うが今までの空からの物語もリセットして空のリメイクが出るのか?
u know, if trails had multiverse, that could be fun
今の運営なら剣帝生存ルートとか作りかねない
それはないな。リメイクであってリセットじゃないから。生存させたいなら創作の方で
最後に「To be continued Van,s Final episode」って事は、
次回でヴァンの物語は終わりって事かな?🤔
でも次回で軌跡シリーズが完結って事は無いでしょうから、
次回作以降は新しい主人公を軸にした展開になるのでしょうか?
リベール、クロスベル、帝国、共和国と来て……次は何処なんだろう。
場所のネタは尽きだろうだけどな
1. Anything answered about the "beyond" that mcburn came from?
2. So is septerrion of time superior over all other septerrion since it kind of can reset/affect them?
3. Anyting revealed about grandmaster and adios?
4. Is the reset triggered by humanity/someone action or time based?
Reset was supposed to be time based, but it was forced to start early due to Gramheart trying to stop it
@@wrongtree4975Septerrion of Time is mostly on the same scale as Space, considering how much they can alternate and bend reality
Yes reset is triggered earlier since Hermes basically see the truth of zemuria, I think that other Rean tell that it was supposed to happen in 1210 but it was happening in 1209(correct me if I am wrong)
Also septerrion of time I think equal to space since it bend time
The other 2 is unknown, the 1st one maybe in next game but the 3rd question is still not have answered
@@yoyok7609my bad, actually I didn’t include Mirage it also has time manipulation
@@thewerewolflounge3109Space, Time, and Mirage is always together anyways.
So we're going to see Dingo again because of the soft reset?
いつものやつで草
またブツ切りエンドなの…(泣)
閃1と閃3の悪夢が…
共和国編完結するんじゃなかったのか…
実際本当にこれで終わりで、次回からはゼムリア大陸編とかになりそう
ヴァンの話は続くけど共和国だけの話はこれで終わりみたいな
と言うか、共和国にもゼムリアの至宝がないとおかしいもんな。後はその聖獣と家系か。エプスタインの家系が怪しい気がするけど
ヒロインはやっぱりこの子で決定?
メインヒロインって結構酷い目にあうからねー💧その可能性も
閃4みたいに真エンドあるだろうな。
閃の軌跡みたいにサブ攻略を黒の庭城とノーマルエンド攻略後じゃないとみられない仕組みにしてそう。共和国編が終わったわけじゃないでしょ。
ティオ特典にでてくるから界の軌跡でてくるいっているのに、でてきていないからな。
アニエスめちゃくちゃヴァンのために重い女の子設定追加されたな。
ファミ通で社長がストーリー重視なら最低60時間でクリアできるうたっているから、5日はクリアに最低限かかる設定だからな。
庭城とか寄り道すれば100時間こえる設定だしな。
流石に1日クリアは無理な設定してそう。
会話の選択肢でかわるかもしれないけどな
これだとアニエスが好きな陽だまりのアニエスの本の結末と同じでアニエスのこと忘れられる結末だしな。
マリアベルのサインが1200年前の遺跡にあり、マキアスたちが話題にするシーンが閃の軌跡であったからこれは伏線は張られてはいたんだが、これで結社は、過去にいったんだろうな。
界では真endないよ
次作は空リメイクだから続きは再来年だね、終わってるよこの会社
So Agnes made the reset to Kuro 1, right?
But then would the events of Kuro 1 still happen?
When you think about it, Almata's plan was to turn Gerald into a demon with the demonic core.
But that core isnt even in Zemuria when the reset happened, so theoricaly, it shouldnt be affected by the reset and should still be out of Zemuria.
And if Van regains it(probably whenever Vagrant tries to possess him again), would the memories of the events come back to him?
Really though, Kai didnt answer anything, and gave us more questions
If nothing else, hey Dingo is alive again😅
agnes bcome agnes sunshine i guess
It certainly gave more questions but to say it answered nothing is wrong.
We know most of the truth of the universe that Zemuria is situated in now. The next question is 'why' its like that. etc.
Falcom really loves to make a cliffhanger ending
How are they supposed to sell their next filler game otherwise? They have to throw that juicy cliffhanger at the last minute to keep their mistreated audience captive.
@@neorock7491damn it’s almost like they’d rather not rush this 20+ year series who would’ve thought?
@@joshuagraham1598 They've already pulled this shit with FC/SC, Cold Steel I/II, Cold Steel III/IV and Daybreak I/II. Damn, it's almost like they've been stretching their games out and filling them with hot air for a long time, just so they can sell one game for the price of two! When will you people wake up and finally see you've been scammed?
@@joshuagraham1598funny because Calvard Arc never have big cliffhanger like this.
@@neorock7491 Falcom knows when they smell easy 🤑
閃であれだけぶっ叩かれたのに「to be continued」をまたやらかすとは思わなかったわ...
しかも終わり方ねw
1でヴァンが説教されまくったのなんだったんだよw
マジで茶番だわ
本当ですよ!閃から何も進歩してない!
ヴァンは個人的に一番好きな主人公なのに、肝心のストーリーがこんなんでは…。
いや、最初からハードルを高めたら後々がきついだろ
残りの謎解きは、次の英雄に託された。
完結までにみんな爺さん婆さんになる。
??
過去になろうとしているのに、何故未来になってるんだよ。
バッドエンドも閃で慣れたけど、ほんまに9割も話進んでるんか気になるw
まぁ、複雑だからな💧見えないところで可能性はありそう
界の軌跡2に続くの? それとも新シリーズ?
まだ閃の軌跡3で止まってるから気になる😅
これでホンマに軌跡シリーズ9割終わったんか?なにも解決しとらんやん。謎が更に増えただけやわ。ここまで無駄に長々と引っ張る必要ある?いつものように後にDLCで追加されるか、閃4みたいに二週目?以降に分岐ルートありにしよ
if u see MCU, maybe there multiverse in Trails series which is good
@@湊-t1r もう、誰かが1人抱えて犠牲になるパターンは大概にして欲しい。某オンラインの某黒の剣士でも1人抱えても犠牲にならず会える可能性も残し、生き残ろうとする意思もあったぞ。
ファミ通情報に共和国編終わって最終編進みます 軌跡シリーズ人がコメントありました新作続編あります
終わりは始まりらしいので始まるんでしょ?
ヴァンて時を司る魔王なんですよね?
最後、なんかピコ~ンて発動してませんでした?
前作でベルガルドさんが五柱の内の1柱って言ってましたよね?
ならあと4人出てくるの?魔王が。
とゆうことは次は「外の世界」編?
いや、まだ早いか。まだまだ引っ張るんだろう(笑)。
なんどもみるけど、この曲、アップルミュージックで出ないかな、、
後はAmazonでな。まだかまだかと待っている
サントラが来年1月発売なのでサブスクはそのあたりでしょうね…
我らのデュバリィちゃんは次作で出るのかな?
You should give me the Kai no Kiseki 2 no later than 2025!
So what happened to Rean & everyone else?
They get reset as well, this soft reset that Agnes does is probably reset until Kuro 1, which basically rean and everyone is doing their thing when kuro 1 start
Or Rean and others is one of many people that remember erased timeline