Thank you for comparing the two because other youtubers keep promoting Caldigit TS3 Plus like it’s the best. It has so many more legacy ports compared to the newer one.
Well, it's actual use vs future proofing. My old laptop had a headphone jack that had an integrated optical out...on the front...cute but never used. Didn't even get a suitable toslink adapter before the whole thing got obsolete. I wasn't cloning hard drives while copying from cards. Didn't need ethernet access while copying files. There are nice usb A 3 ethernet adapters and sd readers, nice usb-c monitors or usb-c to displayport/HDMI adapters. I know those are clunky but so are these packs of 2 bricks and 3 wires. Barely anyone needs them, they helpn't very much, they are just gadgets that most of us really want to cry "well organized professional!"
Can you please make a video about NVME m2 SSD via Thunderbolt 3-4 connections speed tests connected: 1) Right into MacBook Pro M1; 2) In MacBook Pro M1 through CalDigit TS3+; 3) In MacBook Pro M1 through OWC Thunderbolt Dock - I can't find any video with this test!)))
Finally I find an ethernet owc hub Speedtest. Thank you so much for sharing. I have the same results as your with the OWC thunderbolt hub. w/o the hub, my speed is 945 UL / 945 DL .
Hey anytime you need to get a dock, just wait for the caldigit. Caldigit thunderbolt for docs are the best docs I’ve ever had any kind and buy a long way
I really hate that the computer cable is in the front of the OWC. Are you daisy chaining the two of them in your use case since you have both? I have a TS3 Plus but am considering getting the Caldigit Element hub and using it in conjunction with the TS3.
Great comparison. It would have been useful to see the audio port tested. For example, is there any lag time, especially if recording over another track where sound has to align perfectly.
That was not a good comparison, two totally different hubs. It is like comparing a new sports car to an older mini van lol. A good comparison would have been the Thunderbolt 4 ELEMENT HUB by Caldigit.
@@robertquinonez_ Yes but the comparison is in no way like that, this Caldigit still seems to be the better made one, just needs more TB out xD. OWC looking like a cheap subsidiary in comparison, better on paper but no better at all. If one needs a bunch of TB ports, Caldigit Element hub it is. Can plug a gig or 2.5 ethernet adapter and anything else. Also can use USB A to C plug adapters (the little guys that don't have to be removed), which should work for USB-C drives into A ports. I'd just buy a usb-c monitor and a usb A+C sd reader, apple av multiport for travel (or just a cheap spacegrey variety hub/dock for travel and SD card needs). Depends on what one needs, it's just that I don't see myself plugging SD cards at least 7 times a day, or hauling an RJ45 cable for travel. And finally, 4 thunderbolts on a hub are still gonna give 1 speed...USB 3 might be plenty enough, especially when transferring between 2 external drives back and forth across the 1 connection.
I love my Caldigit TS3 + because of all the legacy ports and once cable does it all when I want to switch from my M1 MacBook Air to my HP Laptop boom done
Correction: The TS3+ actually charges at 87W (this was accomplished with a firmware update some time ago and any TS3+ you get now should already have that update) so the difference in charging wattage is 90 vs 87 or 3w or ~3.3%.
ive watched both your dock videos and found them very helpful - thanks. Do you have any information or experience on how the OWC dock works with the new macbook m1 pro & max?
So glad it helped out! 😊 It’s been working great so far. If anything I’ve been needing it less because of the ports of the laptop but I do like to keep my counter clean. Going to test multiple monitors and peripherals soon.
Great video. Truly this is where PC's shine. It took me a while when deciding to buy a Mac mini. Coming from PC land, I had to decide on what I could do without. Even though I rarely used certain ports, having them there was always a bonus. I'm already looking at purchasing the Satechi USB-C hub. Apple users have had to deal with this for many years. In the past, Apple designed machines that were more like pc's, with many ports. That changed as Apple worked really hard to distinguish itself from Microsoft and PC manufacturers. It's no wonder so many people were excited to have more ports on the newest M1 laptops. LOL people might not need all the power of the M1 Pro or Max but they are really grateful to have a MacBook Pro with more ports! That is Apple listening to people. The dongle life is ridiculous. But hey, their quarterly profits are doing fine, so whatever they are doing, it's working.
Besides the PC connection on the front on the OWC, it's dumb that they don't have a fast USB on the front. So you have to reach around the back to plug in a portable drive. Lame!
I have a sandisk extreme pro v2 1 tb but it cant be recognized by my ipad pro m1. I am not sure if this thunderbolt dock could help it recognize. I connected directly to the ipad pro m1
Hi I just got a ipad pro 12.9 2021 and wanted to know what docking station do you recommend this will be my main computer and using for school and work. I was looking at caldigit but would like your opinion?
OWC stuff keeps breaking on me. First the Ethernet port, now it’s causing a horrible hum through my analog audio equipment regardless of ground lifting situation and power circuit isolation.
The Ethernet speed test is a joke right? Why does someone has a symmetric connection without any knowledge how it works? 1. You don't meassure WiFi just like you just did. If someone sits next to the router and it is a WiFi 6 router it would beat the shit out of your wired connection. Because it was just ~139 Mbit/s in your test while it seems like you have a bad symmetric 1 Gbit/s connection, I'm sure you are just in a 2.4 GHz Network, or to be more specific IEEE 802.11n, probably with some interferances and other devices active. 2. Was the wired test with the same cable connected to the same switch/router port? Otherwise it's a useless result. How many other devices where active at this time? Next the disk speed tests: It is impossible by physics that a dock with shared connection is faster than directly attached storage as long as it is the same. So the "without Docks" test there has to be faster. Don't know what you messed up there but that result is just impossible. Looks like a bad CalDigit ad to me.
For the sake of sounding ignorant, but aren't all these tests better because he's in a real world situation? Why would you test a WIFI connection without other devices or interference when you would have things connected on a daily basis? Same thing with ethernet. What would be the point in doing tests in a theoretical anechoic chamber where nothing can interfere when in actuality things are always interfering/devices are connected? The "without docks" test I can't defend though, the internal storage should have been faster.
Thank you for comparing the two because other youtubers keep promoting Caldigit TS3 Plus like it’s the best. It has so many more legacy ports compared to the newer one.
Well, it's actual use vs future proofing. My old laptop had a headphone jack that had an integrated optical out...on the front...cute but never used. Didn't even get a suitable toslink adapter before the whole thing got obsolete.
I wasn't cloning hard drives while copying from cards. Didn't need ethernet access while copying files.
There are nice usb A 3 ethernet adapters and sd readers, nice usb-c monitors or usb-c to displayport/HDMI adapters.
I know those are clunky but so are these packs of 2 bricks and 3 wires.
Barely anyone needs them, they helpn't very much, they are just gadgets that most of us really want to cry "well organized professional!"
Love this bro! Thanks for all the helpful deets. 👍
My pleasure as always! 😊
This video came in so clutch. I’m new to thunderbolt ports and it can get really confusing
Glad it helped! 😁 it sure can
Good thing I already switched to thunderbolt 4!
Can you please make a video about NVME m2 SSD via Thunderbolt 3-4 connections speed tests connected: 1) Right into MacBook Pro M1; 2) In MacBook Pro M1 through CalDigit TS3+; 3) In MacBook Pro M1 through OWC Thunderbolt Dock - I can't find any video with this test!)))
Finally I find an ethernet owc hub Speedtest. Thank you so much for sharing. I have the same results as your with the OWC thunderbolt hub. w/o the hub, my speed is 945 UL / 945 DL .
Very glad this real world test got you something to compare your data
OWC for me. Can't go wrong and I'm very happy with mine.
Hey anytime you need to get a dock, just wait for the caldigit. Caldigit thunderbolt for docs are the best docs I’ve ever had any kind and buy a long way
TS4 is out now 🙌
I really hate that the computer cable is in the front of the OWC. Are you daisy chaining the two of them in your use case since you have both? I have a TS3 Plus but am considering getting the Caldigit Element hub and using it in conjunction with the TS3.
Great comparison. It would have been useful to see the audio port tested. For example, is there any lag time, especially if recording over another track where sound has to align perfectly.
That was not a good comparison, two totally different hubs. It is like comparing a new sports car to an older mini van lol. A good comparison would have been the Thunderbolt 4 ELEMENT HUB by Caldigit.
@@robertquinonez_ Yes but the comparison is in no way like that, this Caldigit still seems to be the better made one, just needs more TB out xD. OWC looking like a cheap subsidiary in comparison, better on paper but no better at all.
If one needs a bunch of TB ports, Caldigit Element hub it is. Can plug a gig or 2.5 ethernet adapter and anything else. Also can use USB A to C plug adapters (the little guys that don't have to be removed), which should work for USB-C drives into A ports.
I'd just buy a usb-c monitor and a usb A+C sd reader, apple av multiport for travel (or just a cheap spacegrey variety hub/dock for travel and SD card needs).
Depends on what one needs, it's just that I don't see myself plugging SD cards at least 7 times a day, or hauling an RJ45 cable for travel.
And finally, 4 thunderbolts on a hub are still gonna give 1 speed...USB 3 might be plenty enough, especially when transferring between 2 external drives back and forth across the 1 connection.
I love my Caldigit TS3 + because of all the legacy ports and once cable does it all when I want to switch from my M1 MacBook Air to my HP Laptop boom done
Great video, you deserve way more subscribers!
Thanks for the love! 😊I’ll keep growing this for sure!
This video is very helpful.
So glad it helped! 😊
Correction: The TS3+ actually charges at 87W (this was accomplished with a firmware update some time ago and any TS3+ you get now should already have that update) so the difference in charging wattage is 90 vs 87 or 3w or ~3.3%.
Now they’re so close to charging
ive watched both your dock videos and found them very helpful - thanks. Do you have any information or experience on how the OWC dock works with the new macbook m1 pro & max?
So glad it helped out! 😊 It’s been working great so far. If anything I’ve been needing it less because of the ports of the laptop but I do like to keep my counter clean. Going to test multiple monitors and peripherals soon.
just what i needed, thank you
My pleasure! Glad it helped
Amazing Video
Things are clearer now
Thanks! Glad it helped! 😊
Great video. Truly this is where PC's shine. It took me a while when deciding to buy a Mac mini. Coming from PC land, I had to decide on what I could do without. Even though I rarely used certain ports, having them there was always a bonus. I'm already looking at purchasing the Satechi USB-C hub. Apple users have had to deal with this for many years. In the past, Apple designed machines that were more like pc's, with many ports. That changed as Apple worked really hard to distinguish itself from Microsoft and PC manufacturers. It's no wonder so many people were excited to have more ports on the newest M1 laptops. LOL people might not need all the power of the M1 Pro or Max but they are really grateful to have a MacBook Pro with more ports! That is Apple listening to people. The dongle life is ridiculous. But hey, their quarterly profits are doing fine, so whatever they are doing, it's working.
Hi, Thanks for the comparing test! What about the new caldigit Ts4? Do you find it better, or have you spotted other good docks?
great review!!
Thank you! ☺️
How does the owc compare to the caldigit element hub?
Besides the PC connection on the front on the OWC, it's dumb that they don't have a fast USB on the front. So you have to reach around the back to plug in a portable drive. Lame!
Comparing Caldigit older model with a newer OWC you know which brand is better
Gotta say that CalDigit Support is a lot friendlier than OWC.
It is almost a year, and the OWC TB4 Dock is only for pre-order? A bit sus.
😄 they still haven’t changed that!?
Why do all the docks keep putting the dc in on the front?
Great video! Interested in trying out our latest 16-in-1 TB4 dock?😎
Hi there! Feel free to DM my team on IG @supertech_USA
So with the CalDigit you can connect dual displays on my 2021 MacBook Pro, but not with OWC TB4?
You can support two displays on the OWC with the new 2021 MacBook Pro (m1 pro or max) because it now supports that. Last year’s m1 did not.
For some reason OWC thunderbolt now costs $500+ and the link you provided for caldigit shows that the product is not available. Is there a shortage?
I have a sandisk extreme pro v2 1 tb but it cant be recognized by my ipad pro m1. I am not sure if this thunderbolt dock could help it recognize. I connected directly to the ipad pro m1
Start troubleshooting by checking the format of the SSD. I don’t think this dock will help that way
Hi I just got a ipad pro 12.9 2021 and wanted to know what docking station do you recommend this will be my main computer and using for school and work.
I was looking at caldigit but would like your opinion?
Can you please explain why this version of CAL digit is more expensive than the version of it that is more portable and can support two monitors?
Why are you comparing to that model? The Thunderbolt 4 ELEMENT HUB by Caldigit is the one you should have compared it to...just saying.
OWC stuff keeps breaking on me. First the Ethernet port, now it’s causing a horrible hum through my analog audio equipment regardless of ground lifting situation and power circuit isolation.
Redo now there’s a TS-4! Of course there’s a big price differential.
Thanks for the heads up! Totally jumping on that! Looks like a good one
will the charging on this port damage the ipad pro 3rd generation?
For ethernet speeds, which one is better? I am connecting my ipad pro 3rd generation 11inch display. Please and thank you.
nevermind i thin k i see caldigit had faster ethernet speeds? is that right?
My OWC dock just emitted a hi zing sound and died within less than a year. Money down the drain. Not tried CalDigit but that's the next one I'll get
I believe they have a warranty if you bought it straight from them. Hopefully they can replace
The Ethernet speed test is a joke right? Why does someone has a symmetric connection without any knowledge how it works?
1. You don't meassure WiFi just like you just did. If someone sits next to the router and it is a WiFi 6 router it would beat the shit out of your wired connection. Because it was just ~139 Mbit/s in your test while it seems like you have a bad symmetric 1 Gbit/s connection, I'm sure you are just in a 2.4 GHz Network, or to be more specific IEEE 802.11n, probably with some interferances and other devices active.
2. Was the wired test with the same cable connected to the same switch/router port? Otherwise it's a useless result. How many other devices where active at this time?
Next the disk speed tests: It is impossible by physics that a dock with shared connection is faster than directly attached storage as long as it is the same. So the "without Docks" test there has to be faster. Don't know what you messed up there but that result is just impossible.
Looks like a bad CalDigit ad to me.
For the sake of sounding ignorant, but aren't all these tests better because he's in a real world situation? Why would you test a WIFI connection without other devices or interference when you would have things connected on a daily basis? Same thing with ethernet. What would be the point in doing tests in a theoretical anechoic chamber where nothing can interfere when in actuality things are always interfering/devices are connected? The "without docks" test I can't defend though, the internal storage should have been faster.
So I see the Caldigit destroys the OWC hub in pretty much all categories. But OWC has TB4 ports. Nice video.
What? Listen more carefully.
Where can I buy this ?
Wish one for IPad Pro M1?
hi your email is not valid, any ideas? looking for review collab