Just use with a nice upscaler/deinterlacer or something. This chip is just a hdmi converter without any of those capabilites hence why he got all the bouncing without going into progressive mode (very few PS2 games have this mode). Its also how they can claim zero latency (its not doing anything really)
It's an "easy" soldering job, because it's soldered on through-hole component with large separated pads and not on surface mounted components with really close legs. As long as you have flux and an iron, it shouldn't be that hard.
Why don't you just man up and admit you don't know how to solder instead of trying to debate the meaning of the word "easy"? Like any skill, it always becomes easier with practice.
This is kinda awesome. Sure, the console specific digital to digital high-end solutions are great, but It's nice to see a decent budget option that is relatively easy to install as well.
Those guys are snakes. I got a first gen hdmi mod chip with the wrong firmware flash to it. When I asked for a replacement they absolutely denied flashing it with the wrong firmware. I get static out of the hdmi connector for audio.
@DarkSerge34 True, however I'm trying to convert as many of my retro consoles from analog to HDMI as cheaply and as quickly as possible. For the price with its flexibility, I've already ordered several for different consoles and projects. Converting old Mini-HDMI analog projects I've already completed for example to give them a full-size port is a dream come true.
I saw that chip noticeably move when you plugged the HDMI cable into the port in the last shot. You're not kidding when you said that mounting it was a con. XD
These intros with rotating consoles and pieces, I love them! One can easily figure out how you do it, but it's so well executed it looks almost magical
While an internal mod is a cleaner solution, if you're not doing digital to digital it's pretty unnecessary as component to HDMI converters are cheap and abundant and aren't limited to being used with 1 console, and if the system is otherwise stock, I wouldn't want to start with a mod like this. Otherwise, this could be a great mod for cleaning up a retro-setup.
My only other critique would be that, while not quite as small, you could likely achieve the same result with the Wii2HDMI circuit board, save the VGA integration, and last I checked you could get those for $2 a piece depending on where you go.
Great video, I used the same adapter on my Clear Blue Phat PS2. Removed the optical out and mounted a micro hdmi instead of cutting the case. For the price and ease of install this is a great option that provides good video output. Installed one in my crystal Xbox as well after my xboxhdmi stopped outputting video on me.
Probably not, the only reason i see to use this over one of those cheap adapters is the convenience of not having to have that thing stick out the back and then power it with an external cable
You can get a Rad2x and use it to output RGB with line multiplier. Plus you can use it with multiple systems and the same cable can be used with the ps1
@@MachoNachoProductionshi TITO , this is an interesting alternative upscaler mod 😊 hmmm I wonder if "Slipstream GT -mr mods"" uses this or something similar in his custom N64s ??????
It is interesting that this doesn't support RGB video. If it did, you'd be able to use it on SNES, RGB modded N64s, even RGB modded NES consoles. EDIT: Actually this does accept RGB looking at the solder mask. But it's RGB HV. I don't think that'll work as the SNES outputs RGBS? I could be wrong though, I'm not an expert!
@@brandonkickFor $19, I think it's worth trying to use it with RGBS. Just connect the sync line to the H or V. Some RGB-capable devices are intelligent enough to tell if a Csync signal is connected, and this one can seemingly already tell if a signal is YPbPr (Which is sync on Luma, basically a BW composite signal) or RGB. If it doesn't work, just try it in another console (or with S-video since it also supports Y/C)
Using an microSD card adapter as a microSD card slot is actually a pretty clever hack considering they come with pretty much every microSD card. I have like a dozen. But as a slot goes it's bare minimum. I like click-spring action of slots on modern devices.
Great review! I do think you should've reiterated briefly on the interlaced jitter issue, as that can be jarring for some, but I acknowledge that you did already go over it just before. Just nice to have it in the Cons section for those who skip around so they don't forget what they're getting.
zero added latency and makes the PS2 plug-and-play, for someone who can’t afford the Pixel FX kit and who doesn’t mind the video quality not being 100% noise free
@RdCrestdBreegull I suppose, but it seems to me had they spent a little extra they could have accomplished the same with a cable and preserved the port's function, also making it plug and play and mod free. Though sourcing or manufacturing connectors may be difficult.
@@RdCrestdBreegull The HDMI kit may not add latency, but your TV will, they usually add a few frames of lag for deinterlacing. Dedicated retro scalers can do good motion adaptive deinterlacing without any added latency, but they cost far more than this kit.
I actually like the picture from the ElectronAnalog over the PixelFX. That generation of graphics was still a bit jumpy for my tastes so getting the blur from the digital>analog>digital is actually a blessing. In my honest opinion though you should play PS2 games on a CRT. PS3 and XBOX360 are where I start to move into digital display territory. The only old console I really appreciate HDMI or digital mods is the N64. The PS1's lack of FPU makes their graphics look terrible on anything new. I need those fixed 480 lines to smooth some of it out.
The amount of visible movement in that PCB when you plug in the HDMI cable shows the design really needs an extra pair of mounting screws for stability.
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This really feels like an internal, more generic version of the external adapters Electron Shepard is already selling for the OG Xbox, Wii and PS2 (tho the PS2 one requires an additional USB-C powerbrick). I guess it's a pretty good option for those who do not want something sticking out their console, want a simple HDMI solution on the Dreamcast or don't want to deal with an extra power adapter for the PS2...
it really has no reason to exist though. It adds the complexity of an internal mod but only provides analog-to-digital functionality which has already been available as cheaper external solutions for a long time. This is basically the worst kind of video connectivity solution. If you only want an HDMI connector, just buy a cheaper PlayStation to HDMI adapter which literally is the same thing and doesn't require any modification (plus can be easily switched between consoles). If you want to do an internal mod, save your lunch money and buy a true digital-to-digital HDMI mod kit for the best possible video output and more features.
@@kalmtraveler This is a general purpose mod, I'm sure for some console scenes it will be one of the best options available when it comes to an internal mod. Plus, it's somewhat of a simpler mod since you'll probably solder to easier points (output connectors rather than e.g. GPU pins). Finally, it can be a cool project for someone who likes this kind of tinkering but is doing this to a console that either doesn't have a dedicated digital-to-digital mod available, or is simply not their favorite console ever so they don't necessarily care that much about getting 100% quality. Also the price differential can get more substantial depending on the exchange rates the person is dealing with (for those of us in other countries), though in this specific case the shipping cost makes this point moot. As stated, I simply think it's neat to have an in-between solution available and I'm sure each person can decide on their own if it makes sense for their setup or DIY project!
@@ViewtifulSam I understand as stated. Just saying that this doesn't offer anything new. People have been internally wiring external component-to-HDMI adapters for quite a while, and you can find some of those for lower cost than this kit. I'm not saying that you shouldn't tinker if you just want to tinker, rather that from a value or quality proposition this specific kit does not bring anything new and could be swapped for better options.
I literally just made my ultra slim PS2... Not that I would have done this anyway. The fact that my TV has a SCART connection & shipping over to Europe is more expensive costs more than I think it's worth doesn't make me regret not waiting longer. I spray painted it blue & burnt my finger on my soldering iron.
As much as I love mods like this - and I do - there's always other solutions including not needing to use a dedicated converter box to go Component to HDMI and that's the only thing it does. As much as for Tito something like this is "easy", it still requires intricate micro soldering with steady hands and small cables, where you need to really check you haven't bridged any connections or made dry solder joints. I have an inexpensive all-in-one type game capture box made by AVerMedia - Game Capture HD II C285 I believe. Not only does it record video because it has 2 inputs (Component and HDMI) but only one output (HDMI) it actually does convert Component to HDMI signal, and always correctly without interlace flicker being passed through the HDMI. So I record game footage from most consoles I own (PS2, PS3, PS4, Wii U, all jailbroken/softmodded) and also make the PS2 work even with modern 4K TVs and monitors that have long since done away with legacy inputs. Using an OPL build with GSM on the PS2 allows you to get up to 1080i from the PS2 as well, which can help for recording sharper video. I'd recommend a solution like that to anyone, especially since I paid very little for mine and it even comes with a little remote control to stop/start recording, manage files etc. I wish AVerMedia would make another all-in-one standalone for 4K consoles like the PS4 Pro, Series X etc.
I have to ask the question; Why didn't you use the TOSLink for digital audio? If this product has a digital audio option, the TOSlink is right next to the AV port and is present on all PlayStation 2 consoles I have ever seen. It would not only give a perfectly clean audio signal, but offer the option for surround sound too.
Hmm. Guess I'll keep hoping for a cheaper digital to digital mod for the PS2, something that isn't too expensive because it doesn't do upscaling and effects and expects us to use a RetroTINK 4K or Morph. Still though, this is cool for people who just want HDMI out without sweating the details, and keeping the price extra low. Definitely has a place in the market.
I like this. Finding a quality Component to HDMI box is always hit or miss unless you want to spend a lot of money on a good scaler. For $20, I think this is a reasonable compromise.
I thought he would point out why he was doing it to the Ps2 mini build, that ps2 is the 79000 series and pixelfx doesn't support that particular model (an another i think) at that point you could have the ps2 mini or a different ps2 with pixelfx. i was planning to do the ps2 mini build myself with the electron Sheppard prior to this video being released (along with a clear shell wii). im glad this video came out so i can finally get the motivation to finish it 😂😂
Definitely going to pick one up for my Dreamcast, and maybe some of my Gamecubes and N64s too! So great to finally see a more affordable and simple HDMI solution for older consoles.
If you have the earlier model gamecube with the digital video out, the best bet is probably a digital to HDMI as there's no soldering, no opening the case, you just plug it on and it's a pure digital connection. It's what I'm looking at, but from memory they're about $100 Australian to buy and ship it to me. I haven't made the purchase yet, as I'm still looking for my controllers
This reminds me of the time Review Tech USA put a cheap composite to HDMI converter into his N64. I'm surprised it took so long for someone to develop a product like this.
This is great, as much as I would love to have the fxpixel mod, that price range is out of the question, especially since it’s such a difficult install I would risk possibly breaking the ps2 or the mod itself. Great video!
Does it do any scaling, or does it spit out the native 448/480 resolution? Also, I'm curious if it displays in 4:3 or 16:9, since most of your offscreen footage is in widescreen.
This isn't really a traditional HDMI mod but it does look cleaner than a plug and play adapter. Electron shephard is working on one for the PS2 I'll probably just get that instead
I feel this would be more useful if made into a little box with component inputs so you can connect any console to it, but it needs power so idk. Also I think it should have been mini HDMI, so it would be easier to take out one of the console's original plugs and put this device in its place
Now if they make this but with a upscaler/deinterlacer built in I'll be all in for the PS2. This seems way more akin to converting something like a OG Xbox (almost all games have a progressive mode available) or maybe a first gen Xbox 360 which lacked HDMI (even more progressive games)
I think I'm going to buy this. The video port on my Phat PS2 was broken when it was given to. So I removed the port completely and install a cheap external hdmi adapter internally. It does work, but the whole install is kind of janky. The picture it outputs isn't that great. This looks like it will give a better picture. Would be cleaner looking to install and I already have an open spot for it.
Love the low price of this mod. But I would prefer to see this get turned into an external adaptor that can be used on various consoles. Like the Rad2X Adaptors.
This is basically a component to HDMI adapter you install inside the console. I would be interested in making a 3D printed box for it so you can plug HDRetrovision cables into it.
Wait, I don't understand the idea of a 3D printed box for this for HD Retrovision cables. If you want to use HD Retrovision cables, surely you would just plug them into the PS2's analog video out port?
@@mjc0961 I mean attach RCA connectors this board put it into a box and use it with HDRetrovision cables to convert the component video output to HDMI, basically so you don't have to install it inside the PS2 and use it with other consoles but since it doesn't support 240p it's usefulness would be limited as most consoles output 240p
The main thing I can see this being useful for is PS2 consoles that have a busted video port. Considering doing this on a few "for parts" consoles I bought a little while back.
Would have loved to see you having four of those and install them to the Dreamcast, GameCube and XBOX as well. This is a soldering mod I'd dare to try myself.
@@computercatgaming02 how about a better smaller/external power supply for starters. That thing runs hot 🔥 all the time, not helping the longevity of the OG consoles 💀
@@GrmDark Fair enough, I just have been fine with CFW and increasing the fan curve to the minimum of 35% and it's been very cool compared to stock settings on both of my BC PS3s, CECHC and my CECHB. But yeah the PSU contributes to a lot of the heat, especially on those models
This is a neat mod, but does it work properly when you play PS1 games? A lot of the external HDMI-adapters for the PS2 does not work properly when playing PS1 games, so it'd be interesting to know if this works properly when playing PS1 games on the PS2.
Without good deinterlacer it is useless. 90% of the PS2 games need deinterlacer or you'll have horrible jumpy image. And you didnt mention that it wont work with most PS1 games since they have 240p signal and this isnt upscaler so new tv-s wont know what to do with the signal. Not good...
Good this exists, but without deinterlacing I don't see much use in it. The GBS-Control is miles better in my book for bypassing the diplay's processing, 0ms with bob and 16ms with Motion Adaptive. This thing will probably be on the order of 100ms. And all the granular image scaling and stretching! Very worth the $70, even cheaper than paying for someone to install this mod...
I'm not sure about this one. It's obviously a good quality product, but if I'm going through the trouble of opening up the console, soldering and modding the case to fit, I might as well get a digital to digital mod to get the best quality, even if it's harder to install. Now, if this had an HDMI plug instead of a port, it could be used to mod an existing AV cable without even touching the console. I think that would be an interesting product. Otherwise, I like my cheap external adapter. It don't mind a small dongle between the console and the HDMI cable.
I'd say that the component is probably having a blur filter applied. At least it looks like it from the pictures. You should try disabling that, I think the custom software has a way to disable that on the PS2. Just bought an external adapter for mine and haven't had time to try it yet.
This is a great mod and if you are willing to open a PlayStation to do this mod finding a spot for it shouldn't be to bad as well. there are no cons to this one imo
This is a super clean option and priced incredibly well, but you can’t help but ignore the fact you can do this externally from component cables and get the same result - no need to modify your console.
Electron Shepard does have a PS2 to HDMI adapter coming out and given that their OG XBox HDMI adapter turned out pretty good I think it'll turn out just as good
I was gonna ask about latency, since it's going from Digital to analog and bake again. THX for all your awesome videos. I wish I had the skill to do all your mods. I have all my retro machines, but I don't want to mess them up.
It would be nice if he could modify the case a little more and the design of the ultra slim to make it so that you have a switch from a record slot one as well that way you can install a internal like reader system you know so you don't have to pull that off once again is started then insert a memory card you can just flip another switch that would be nice.
The only cons i’ve notifified with the analog to hdmi it the loss or the video signal when the resolution source change for example with a ps1 game when it pass in 480i to 240p with a game such as dino crisis you loss the signal 2 seconds. Time for resync by the analog to hdmi . So for this reason i prefer Connect my ps2 to a scaler without loss problem such as gbs8200 with gbscontrol firmware.
After trying to install, I was confused, I'm pretty sure for the 370001 models the pinout is mirrored. Don't quote me; however, take some time to double check the pinout before you start to solder
Well this makes up my mind. I've been on the fence for a while now on if I wanted to mod my PS2 or continue risking my 2 launch day PS3's finally dying and forcing me to pay $400 to get them fixed. Ps2's are cheap and it is only Ps1/Ps2 games I want to replay. I don't need the minor quality difference the more expensive hdmi mods offer, I just need it to work on my TV without a headache. Looks like it is time to move the PS3's to the display shelf and start modding the PS2.
I wonder if this could be installed into a Wii Mini. I've heard that has everything in there for a component signal it just isn't connected to the AV port. A mod for that thing that can use something besides Composite is really needed. I love the mini's design way more than the OG Wii.
I honestly don't know who this for. I use a Hyperkin PS2 HDMI cable, and while I don't usually like Hyperkin or these types of cables, I get a very impressive, clear, colorful picture with it. Yes, my TV is doing some lifting after it receives the signal, but it's plug and play, and much better picture quality than this board. I don't see the point of soldering and cutting into a game console's shell when a comparable cable is available. Same goes for the Xbox2HDMI, now ElectronXout, dongle, which is made by the same company as this board, Electron Shephard. It's a little more than this board, but also plug and play. I compared the image between the Xbox2HDMI/ElectronXout with the official component cables and an OSSC, and there was no difference between the two. So outside of being a tad less expensive, this board wouldn't be the best comparable solution for the Xbox either even from the same company.
For another "con" not mentioned, I'm assuming this does no scaling. That means the few PS2 games and almost all PS1 games that output native 240p when playing on a PS2 will send the 240p signal through the HDMI port, which may be limited with your TV's signal capability. Is that correct?
“Everything worth doing is worth doing right” it might only be $20 but it’s nice to know at least know was well thought out.
This even fits the ultra slim?!!? SOLD! I even just today got notified that my MemCard Pro 2 shipped. What a great PS2 day.
so does the retrogem now
Just use with a nice upscaler/deinterlacer or something. This chip is just a hdmi converter without any of those capabilites hence why he got all the bouncing without going into progressive mode (very few PS2 games have this mode). Its also how they can claim zero latency (its not doing anything really)
@@hiRyan329329 If you had an upscaler why would you need an internal hdmi mod?
"Easy" is always relative when soldering enters the equation
You won't get many easier soldering jobs than this when it comes to modding consoles
This is a very easy solder job compared to other mods. Looks like something even a beginner could do tbh.
It's an "easy" soldering job, because it's soldered on through-hole component with large separated pads and not on surface mounted components with really close legs. As long as you have flux and an iron, it shouldn't be that hard.
Why don't you just man up and admit you don't know how to solder instead of trying to debate the meaning of the word "easy"?
Like any skill, it always becomes easier with practice.
Unless you have particularly shaky hands, this level of soldering is extremely easy with the right equipment
You have one of the nicest satisfying intros on youtube
Thank you so much 🙏
Sometimes I just leave it playing on my Android TV just cause of the music
$19, fantastic. But $35 shipping to EU.. nope.
Give it time, hopefully it'll come down for you.
Bruh...
It's freakin' $10 shipping in the US, even. Fuck 'at.
It's still worth $54 if u want to upgrade to hdmi.
@@androxiloginThat seems very reasonable
This is kinda awesome. Sure, the console specific digital to digital high-end solutions are great, but It's nice to see a decent budget option that is relatively easy to install as well.
The fact this also supports the Xbox and Dreamcast has my ears perk up
If it can support even more systems, this could be huge
it can, it will work on the ps1 using the vga option, and the wii. I've been wondering if it will work for a Vic-20 honestly
Looks like it supports anything that outputs a component or vga signal (or can be modified to do so).
@@dragoncracker How does it work on PS1 and Wii?
@@RiderNexus by connecting to VGA signal, looking around the bitbuilt forums you can find some good examples
Hopefully for the Sega Saturn, 32X add on, Sega Master System
Hey man, every time I watch your videos I'm blown away by that intro all over again.
Agreed. Its pretty sweet.
why analog audio when SPDIF digital audio is right there?
It also used spdif
Feel like most people forget SPDIF is a thing
Yeah once I discovered SPDIF sound on PS2 it was like I my console was raised from the bottom of a well and sounds like it always should have.
I was here to ask the same thing!!!
Maybe for the native PS1 support? Dunno
As soon as I saw Electron Shepard I knew this would be great. I love their Wii HDMI mod and have done so many.
I said the same thing. I think they’re amazing.
Those guys are snakes. I got a first gen hdmi mod chip with the wrong firmware flash to it. When I asked for a replacement they absolutely denied flashing it with the wrong firmware. I get static out of the hdmi connector for audio.
literally just about to set up my PS2 again and was dreading the cheap HDMI adapter route. Thanks Tito!
I mean, this is essentially the exact same thing, it's just internal instead of external...
@DarkSerge34 True, however I'm trying to convert as many of my retro consoles from analog to HDMI as cheaply and as quickly as possible. For the price with its flexibility, I've already ordered several for different consoles and projects. Converting old Mini-HDMI analog projects I've already completed for example to give them a full-size port is a dream come true.
@@DarkSerge34 Forgot to mention how much this will save me on excess cable mess as well.
This is the same thing as PS2HDMI you can find for 5 bucks, just without the housing. Ripoff
@@golimonkey it uses a slightly different converter IC and maybe the pcb is laid a tat better, but... yeah, $30+ a piece is ridiculous.
I saw that chip noticeably move when you plugged the HDMI cable into the port in the last shot. You're not kidding when you said that mounting it was a con. XD
These intros with rotating consoles and pieces, I love them! One can easily figure out how you do it, but it's so well executed it looks almost magical
While an internal mod is a cleaner solution, if you're not doing digital to digital it's pretty unnecessary as component to HDMI converters are cheap and abundant and aren't limited to being used with 1 console, and if the system is otherwise stock, I wouldn't want to start with a mod like this.
Otherwise, this could be a great mod for cleaning up a retro-setup.
My only other critique would be that, while not quite as small, you could likely achieve the same result with the Wii2HDMI circuit board, save the VGA integration, and last I checked you could get those for $2 a piece depending on where you go.
Great video, I used the same adapter on my Clear Blue Phat PS2. Removed the optical out and mounted a micro hdmi instead of cutting the case. For the price and ease of install this is a great option that provides good video output.
Installed one in my crystal Xbox as well after my xboxhdmi stopped outputting video on me.
How did you mount it?
@@_Jerrylp_ hollowed out the optical housing and fit the female micro hdmi inside. Used a little black hot glue to anchor it.
Am I wrong in thinking this will provide the same picture quality as a cheap component => HDMI adapter?
Probably not, the only reason i see to use this over one of those cheap adapters is the convenience of not having to have that thing stick out the back and then power it with an external cable
You are correct. You can achieve the same results with an external converter
You can get a Rad2x and use it to output RGB with line multiplier. Plus you can use it with multiple systems and the same cable can be used with the ps1
@@MachoNachoProductionshi TITO , this is an interesting alternative upscaler mod 😊 hmmm I wonder if "Slipstream GT -mr mods"" uses this or something similar in his custom N64s ??????
this type of content will never be boring to watch.
Any UK / EU distribution for this? Shipping to the UK is £29 which is a real shame as I'd love to take a look at these.
Agreed, double the unit cost for postage is very high.
You can also use a wii2hdmi on any console with few mods 😊
Get PS2HDMI and remove its housing. Same thing, 5$...
I really wish this existed for the SNES 😍
It is interesting that this doesn't support RGB video. If it did, you'd be able to use it on SNES, RGB modded N64s, even RGB modded NES consoles.
EDIT: Actually this does accept RGB looking at the solder mask. But it's RGB HV. I don't think that'll work as the SNES outputs RGBS? I could be wrong though, I'm not an expert!
@@brandonkickFor $19, I think it's worth trying to use it with RGBS. Just connect the sync line to the H or V. Some RGB-capable devices are intelligent enough to tell if a Csync signal is connected, and this one can seemingly already tell if a signal is YPbPr (Which is sync on Luma, basically a BW composite signal) or RGB.
If it doesn't work, just try it in another console (or with S-video since it also supports Y/C)
Going for the SPDIF would of avoided noise from the video signal getting into the audio and vice versa
Using an microSD card adapter as a microSD card slot is actually a pretty clever hack considering they come with pretty much every microSD card. I have like a dozen.
But as a slot goes it's bare minimum. I like click-spring action of slots on modern devices.
Electron Shepherd should support with written Instructions, also watch the shipping, $20 for parcel is crazy
Great review! I do think you should've reiterated briefly on the interlaced jitter issue, as that can be jarring for some, but I acknowledge that you did already go over it just before. Just nice to have it in the Cons section for those who skip around so they don't forget what they're getting.
This is the update I was waiting for from your last ps2 mini build. Awesome.
So really this is an internal HDMI cable adapter mod... seems kinda pointless.
zero added latency and makes the PS2 plug-and-play, for someone who can’t afford the Pixel FX kit and who doesn’t mind the video quality not being 100% noise free
@RdCrestdBreegull I suppose, but it seems to me had they spent a little extra they could have accomplished the same with a cable and preserved the port's function, also making it plug and play and mod free. Though sourcing or manufacturing connectors may be difficult.
@@RdCrestdBreegull"zero added latency" except for the fact that its lack of de-interlacing means your display will add a ton of lag to the signal.
@@RdCrestdBreegull The HDMI kit may not add latency, but your TV will, they usually add a few frames of lag for deinterlacing. Dedicated retro scalers can do good motion adaptive deinterlacing without any added latency, but they cost far more than this kit.
@@techloidtech2051 i mean the original video port is still there, so you can switch between the two depending on what ur hooking it up to.
I actually like the picture from the ElectronAnalog over the PixelFX. That generation of graphics was still a bit jumpy for my tastes so getting the blur from the digital>analog>digital is actually a blessing. In my honest opinion though you should play PS2 games on a CRT. PS3 and XBOX360 are where I start to move into digital display territory. The only old console I really appreciate HDMI or digital mods is the N64. The PS1's lack of FPU makes their graphics look terrible on anything new. I need those fixed 480 lines to smooth some of it out.
The amount of visible movement in that PCB when you plug in the HDMI cable shows the design really needs an extra pair of mounting screws for stability.
After a week of binge watching macho nacho that smooth jazz is an extremely welcome addition to your filler music
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This really feels like an internal, more generic version of the external adapters Electron Shepard is already selling for the OG Xbox, Wii and PS2 (tho the PS2 one requires an additional USB-C powerbrick).
I guess it's a pretty good option for those who do not want something sticking out their console, want a simple HDMI solution on the Dreamcast or don't want to deal with an extra power adapter for the PS2...
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I'm very happy this product exists, it sits nicely in a gap between cheap external converters and full digital to digital console-specific mods.
it really has no reason to exist though. It adds the complexity of an internal mod but only provides analog-to-digital functionality which has already been available as cheaper external solutions for a long time. This is basically the worst kind of video connectivity solution. If you only want an HDMI connector, just buy a cheaper PlayStation to HDMI adapter which literally is the same thing and doesn't require any modification (plus can be easily switched between consoles). If you want to do an internal mod, save your lunch money and buy a true digital-to-digital HDMI mod kit for the best possible video output and more features.
@@kalmtraveler This is a general purpose mod, I'm sure for some console scenes it will be one of the best options available when it comes to an internal mod. Plus, it's somewhat of a simpler mod since you'll probably solder to easier points (output connectors rather than e.g. GPU pins). Finally, it can be a cool project for someone who likes this kind of tinkering but is doing this to a console that either doesn't have a dedicated digital-to-digital mod available, or is simply not their favorite console ever so they don't necessarily care that much about getting 100% quality. Also the price differential can get more substantial depending on the exchange rates the person is dealing with (for those of us in other countries), though in this specific case the shipping cost makes this point moot. As stated, I simply think it's neat to have an in-between solution available and I'm sure each person can decide on their own if it makes sense for their setup or DIY project!
@@ViewtifulSam I understand as stated. Just saying that this doesn't offer anything new. People have been internally wiring external component-to-HDMI adapters for quite a while, and you can find some of those for lower cost than this kit. I'm not saying that you shouldn't tinker if you just want to tinker, rather that from a value or quality proposition this specific kit does not bring anything new and could be swapped for better options.
@@kalmtraveler Yeah, from a purely practical standpoint I can see your point for sure. The use cases are probably quite niche
I literally just made my ultra slim PS2... Not that I would have done this anyway. The fact that my TV has a SCART connection & shipping over to Europe is more expensive costs more than I think it's worth doesn't make me regret not waiting longer.
I spray painted it blue & burnt my finger on my soldering iron.
As much as I love mods like this - and I do - there's always other solutions including not needing to use a dedicated converter box to go Component to HDMI and that's the only thing it does. As much as for Tito something like this is "easy", it still requires intricate micro soldering with steady hands and small cables, where you need to really check you haven't bridged any connections or made dry solder joints.
I have an inexpensive all-in-one type game capture box made by AVerMedia - Game Capture HD II C285 I believe. Not only does it record video because it has 2 inputs (Component and HDMI) but only one output (HDMI) it actually does convert Component to HDMI signal, and always correctly without interlace flicker being passed through the HDMI. So I record game footage from most consoles I own (PS2, PS3, PS4, Wii U, all jailbroken/softmodded) and also make the PS2 work even with modern 4K TVs and monitors that have long since done away with legacy inputs. Using an OPL build with GSM on the PS2 allows you to get up to 1080i from the PS2 as well, which can help for recording sharper video.
I'd recommend a solution like that to anyone, especially since I paid very little for mine and it even comes with a little remote control to stop/start recording, manage files etc. I wish AVerMedia would make another all-in-one standalone for 4K consoles like the PS4 Pro, Series X etc.
Every single time we come across something as cool as this, it’s out of stock.
I have to ask the question;
Why didn't you use the TOSLink for digital audio?
If this product has a digital audio option, the TOSlink is right next to the AV port and is present on all PlayStation 2 consoles I have ever seen.
It would not only give a perfectly clean audio signal, but offer the option for surround sound too.
I'm seconding this. Would have just been one less wire to fuss over had he just done that.
Hmm. Guess I'll keep hoping for a cheaper digital to digital mod for the PS2, something that isn't too expensive because it doesn't do upscaling and effects and expects us to use a RetroTINK 4K or Morph.
Still though, this is cool for people who just want HDMI out without sweating the details, and keeping the price extra low. Definitely has a place in the market.
I got a spare PS2 that's soft modded, and this is perfect for that. Thanks, glad this is a thing.
Thanks for showing up front that it’s an analog to digital converter.
I like this. Finding a quality Component to HDMI box is always hit or miss unless you want to spend a lot of money on a good scaler. For $20, I think this is a reasonable compromise.
I Would Love to See a Videos About This for The OG Xbox and Dreamcast. As Always Another Great Video. Thank You.
ElectronShepherd finally got their flowers. Congrats!
I thought he would point out why he was doing it to the Ps2 mini build, that ps2 is the 79000 series and pixelfx doesn't support that particular model (an another i think) at that point you could have the ps2 mini or a different ps2 with pixelfx. i was planning to do the ps2 mini build myself with the electron Sheppard prior to this video being released (along with a clear shell wii). im glad this video came out so i can finally get the motivation to finish it 😂😂
Thanks for sharing this mod Tito. This is a great option
This could use more coverage for other consoles. Even a good quality PDF with a handful of pinouts for consoles, and maybe even handhelds.
Right, so gamecube on the DOL-101 without the digital SHOULD be on the cards for this little kit. Neat.
Definitely going to pick one up for my Dreamcast, and maybe some of my Gamecubes and N64s too! So great to finally see a more affordable and simple HDMI solution for older consoles.
If you have the earlier model gamecube with the digital video out, the best bet is probably a digital to HDMI as there's no soldering, no opening the case, you just plug it on and it's a pure digital connection.
It's what I'm looking at, but from memory they're about $100 Australian to buy and ship it to me. I haven't made the purchase yet, as I'm still looking for my controllers
You can do this with regular PS2HDMI Adapter for 10$. Just open it and do the same wirering, remove the headphone IN and find place for it inside.
if you add a switch to the component jumper you can toggle component and rgb so ps1 games will work in rgb and ps2 games in component
This reminds me of the time Review Tech USA put a cheap composite to HDMI converter into his N64. I'm surprised it took so long for someone to develop a product like this.
So many of these mods require soldering skills, not everyone has them, it can be super daunting to even consider if you don't
This is great, as much as I would love to have the fxpixel mod, that price range is out of the question, especially since it’s such a difficult install I would risk possibly breaking the ps2 or the mod itself. Great video!
Does it do any scaling, or does it spit out the native 448/480 resolution? Also, I'm curious if it displays in 4:3 or 16:9, since most of your offscreen footage is in widescreen.
This isn't really a traditional HDMI mod but it does look cleaner than a plug and play adapter. Electron shephard is working on one for the PS2 I'll probably just get that instead
I feel this would be more useful if made into a little box with component inputs so you can connect any console to it, but it needs power so idk. Also I think it should have been mini HDMI, so it would be easier to take out one of the console's original plugs and put this device in its place
I could see this being useful as a VGA solution for the Dreamcast
a flex board to solder down instead of wires would be amazing
Now if they make this but with a upscaler/deinterlacer built in I'll be all in for the PS2. This seems way more akin to converting something like a OG Xbox (almost all games have a progressive mode available) or maybe a first gen Xbox 360 which lacked HDMI (even more progressive games)
I think I'm going to buy this. The video port on my Phat PS2 was broken when it was given to. So I removed the port completely and install a cheap external hdmi adapter internally. It does work, but the whole install is kind of janky. The picture it outputs isn't that great. This looks like it will give a better picture. Would be cleaner looking to install and I already have an open spot for it.
Love the low price of this mod. But I would prefer to see this get turned into an external adaptor that can be used on various consoles. Like the Rad2X Adaptors.
This is basically a component to HDMI adapter you install inside the console. I would be interested in making a 3D printed box for it so you can plug HDRetrovision cables into it.
Wait, I don't understand the idea of a 3D printed box for this for HD Retrovision cables. If you want to use HD Retrovision cables, surely you would just plug them into the PS2's analog video out port?
@@mjc0961 I mean attach RCA connectors this board put it into a box and use it with HDRetrovision cables to convert the component video output to HDMI, basically so you don't have to install it inside the PS2 and use it with other consoles but since it doesn't support 240p it's usefulness would be limited as most consoles output 240p
The main thing I can see this being useful for is PS2 consoles that have a busted video port. Considering doing this on a few "for parts" consoles I bought a little while back.
Thank god someone is finally covering this!
Would have loved to see you having four of those and install them to the Dreamcast, GameCube and XBOX as well.
This is a soldering mod I'd dare to try myself.
This kis legit would do for 98% of people looking for HDMI out.
Keeping Retro Alive one Macho video at a time!!! 🎉
Very nice but when are we going to start seeing mods for the wii or BC Ps3?😅
The Wii I can see why, but what needs to be modded on BC PS3?
@@computercatgaming02 how about a better smaller/external power supply for starters. That thing runs hot 🔥 all the time, not helping the longevity of the OG consoles 💀
@@GrmDark Fair enough, I just have been fine with CFW and increasing the fan curve to the minimum of 35% and it's been very cool compared to stock settings on both of my BC PS3s, CECHC and my CECHB. But yeah the PSU contributes to a lot of the heat, especially on those models
I just got a standard PS2 to HDMI thing, took the case out and wired that up
This is a neat mod, but does it work properly when you play PS1 games? A lot of the external HDMI-adapters for the PS2 does not work properly when playing PS1 games, so it'd be interesting to know if this works properly when playing PS1 games on the PS2.
It should work if it is placed in RGB mode.
Without good deinterlacer it is useless. 90% of the PS2 games need deinterlacer or you'll have horrible jumpy image. And you didnt mention that it wont work with most PS1 games since they have 240p signal and this isnt upscaler so new tv-s wont know what to do with the signal. Not good...
Yes it’s crazy how much Tito downplayed that.
@@user-yk1cw8im4h And that its the same thing as PS2HDMI without the housing. PS2HDMI costs 5 bucks on aliexp.
240p over HDMI is definitely a thing, just saying. Not every TV supports it no but the last 3 I've had supported it
@@kevin_lee_music none of the TV's I've ever had supported 240p natively via hdmi. Not even via component. Could you share exact models that did?
@@kevin_lee_music It is a thing and extremely rare. I don't know what 3 TVS you have, but it sounds like you should go buy a lottery ticket, too.
They could make an adapter, since all the pins are accessible through the video port.
Your southern drawl came out in this one!!
how awesome would it be to see a mini consolization playlist. i like the small footprint of this and would love to see a smaller modded DC and NES
Snazzy music ya got there, Tito!
You could mod this into a component video switch and have your own adapter box.
The ogx already has a similar mod where you use a wii2hdmi. Those things are dirt cheap and are just basic component to hdmi converters
Good this exists, but without deinterlacing I don't see much use in it. The GBS-Control is miles better in my book for bypassing the diplay's processing, 0ms with bob and 16ms with Motion Adaptive. This thing will probably be on the order of 100ms. And all the granular image scaling and stretching! Very worth the $70, even cheaper than paying for someone to install this mod...
I'm not sure about this one. It's obviously a good quality product, but if I'm going through the trouble of opening up the console, soldering and modding the case to fit, I might as well get a digital to digital mod to get the best quality, even if it's harder to install.
Now, if this had an HDMI plug instead of a port, it could be used to mod an existing AV cable without even touching the console. I think that would be an interesting product.
Otherwise, I like my cheap external adapter. It don't mind a small dongle between the console and the HDMI cable.
So does this take the component signal or AV? Just to confirm. Sounds like component.
Component or VGA
@@MachoNachoProductions Cheers
I'd say that the component is probably having a blur filter applied. At least it looks like it from the pictures.
You should try disabling that, I think the custom software has a way to disable that on the PS2. Just bought an external adapter for mine and haven't had time to try it yet.
Good thing you posted this on a Thursday, like you used to do before. 😉
This is a great mod and if you are willing to open a PlayStation to do this mod finding a spot for it shouldn't be to bad as well. there are no cons to this one imo
This is a super clean option and priced incredibly well, but you can’t help but ignore the fact you can do this externally from component cables and get the same result - no need to modify your console.
Absolutely true, you can get the same results with an external solution and no modding needed
Dope tech putting life into retro tech
Electron Shepard does have a PS2 to HDMI adapter coming out and given that their OG XBox HDMI adapter turned out pretty good I think it'll turn out just as good
They do? Then I’ll wait because I LOVE their OG Xbox one.
I can get a ps2 to hdmi adapter for 2-3$ and solder it the exact same way into my console sooooo.....no?
Estos mods son geniales que sigan sacando mas para este genial sistema play estation 2💪😎🍻
I just can't get over the fact that i won't have a disc drive anymore. There's no fun in game shopping at flea markets anymore.
I was gonna ask about latency, since it's going from Digital to analog and bake again.
THX for all your awesome videos. I wish I had the skill to do all your mods. I have all my retro machines, but I don't want to mess them up.
It would be nice if he could modify the case a little more and the design of the ultra slim to make it so that you have a switch from a record slot one as well that way you can install a internal like reader system you know so you don't have to pull that off once again is started then insert a memory card you can just flip another switch that would be nice.
This looks great! Thank you for the video.
It would be nice to see how it compares to a set of cables, like the Levelhike or pound cables.
Really wish I could find a 3D printed bracket to buy for the Fat PS2, I would’ve done this mod so long ago.
The only cons i’ve notifified with the analog to hdmi it the loss or the video signal when the resolution source change for example with a ps1 game when it pass in 480i to 240p with a game such as dino crisis you loss the signal 2 seconds. Time for resync by the analog to hdmi . So for this reason i prefer Connect my ps2 to a scaler without loss problem such as gbs8200 with gbscontrol firmware.
After trying to install, I was confused, I'm pretty sure for the 370001 models the pinout is mirrored. Don't quote me; however, take some time to double check the pinout before you start to solder
Well this makes up my mind. I've been on the fence for a while now on if I wanted to mod my PS2 or continue risking my 2 launch day PS3's finally dying and forcing me to pay $400 to get them fixed. Ps2's are cheap and it is only Ps1/Ps2 games I want to replay. I don't need the minor quality difference the more expensive hdmi mods offer, I just need it to work on my TV without a headache. Looks like it is time to move the PS3's to the display shelf and start modding the PS2.
I wonder if this could be installed into a Wii Mini. I've heard that has everything in there for a component signal it just isn't connected to the AV port. A mod for that thing that can use something besides Composite is really needed. I love the mini's design way more than the OG Wii.
I honestly don't know who this for. I use a Hyperkin PS2 HDMI cable, and while I don't usually like Hyperkin or these types of cables, I get a very impressive, clear, colorful picture with it. Yes, my TV is doing some lifting after it receives the signal, but it's plug and play, and much better picture quality than this board. I don't see the point of soldering and cutting into a game console's shell when a comparable cable is available.
Same goes for the Xbox2HDMI, now ElectronXout, dongle, which is made by the same company as this board, Electron Shephard. It's a little more than this board, but also plug and play. I compared the image between the Xbox2HDMI/ElectronXout with the official component cables and an OSSC, and there was no difference between the two. So outside of being a tad less expensive, this board wouldn't be the best comparable solution for the Xbox either even from the same company.
For another "con" not mentioned, I'm assuming this does no scaling. That means the few PS2 games and almost all PS1 games that output native 240p when playing on a PS2 will send the 240p signal through the HDMI port, which may be limited with your TV's signal capability.
Is that correct?
I came straight to the comments and I wasn't disappointed 😂