BAND-MAID MONDAY: The Dragon Cries | REACTION
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- Опубликовано: 13 сен 2024
- My blind reaction to the song The Dragon Cries by the Japanese rock band BAND-MAID.
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Not sure how anyone can call this song bad. It is one of my favorites. The musicianship in this song is so good.
Music is cake. Some like chocolate, some don't. I don't think this reactor thinks Chocolate cake is bad (he seems like a great guy but he is a musician who has his musical likes and dislikes). I love this song also. It's one of the band's songs that has grown on me most over time (started off so-so for me - a rarity for this band - but is now beloved by me).
I love the live version, I don't really enjoy the album version. In the live version I can hear everything so much better. The LCS version is the best in my opinion.
Some Band-Maid fans don't like it because they don't consider it "pure" Band-Maid, although you could say the exact same thing about "Smile" which is widely loved among the fans. I think this reaction is the result of being convinced that it's the one bad Band-Maid song by that vocal minority rather than judging the song for what it actually is.
I love THE Dragon Cries it has an old 70s sound that the Mtv generation never knew. It's legit ❤ and wtf? Stop killing the Earth, stop war, take responsibility for our participation in the current extinction event 😊
yup.. gets me back to old "The Who" and the times around there. and u hit the points with the analyze of what they try to convey, sadly many don`t like this song, because they sing in English and don`t listen or even look at the statement they sends in this song.. It`s a brilliant song, that sadly many in the new generation X dont get :)
Actually the song and the subject go together perfectly. If you know anything about the late 60s, rock music often was about man's abuse of each other as well as the planet we live on. Especially the possibility of nuclear war.
I can understand how the MV took people aback when they were expecting the usual B-M uplifting-even-if-gritty. And musically it is a throwback/homage and not pushing the envelope in any way. In that sense it reminds me of "Chemical Reaction."
@@stevehall5128 and "Chemical Reaction" is heavy like the UP 4014 thundering down the track!
@@Charles-ce7ev "One, two, three, what are we fighting for? Don't ask me. I don't give a damn. Next stop is Viet Nam! Five, six, seven, open up the pearly gates. Well there ain't no time to wonder why. Whoopie! We're all gonna die!" ✌
- Country Joe McDonald
this was done by a different producer (Tony Visconti from New York), the ladies said they enjoyed working with him, but it does have a different sound from their usual tracks
When I saw your announcement post where you pre-apologized for this reaction, I was a little surprised, because this is a song that I can't really imagine anyone having *super* strong opinions about either way - it has some cool bits and some bits that can easily turn people off, but nothing like, overly dramatic in either direction. Turns out you were just apologizing for feeling meh about it 😅 I think I felt overall quite the same way you did about it. But really, I *like* 'negative' reactions, if you can even call it that - as long as they're fair, it just proves that you're honest. Having an occasional 'negative' reaction means that people can actually enjoy your positive reactions because they can trust you're not lying to them when you say you like something.
Thank you! I really do try my best to keep it as honest as I can with every reaction, I don’t want to just play up to people so they continue watching. If I do that, I lose all integrity!
Like it or not, they still kick ass even when outside their usual suroundings.
Yeah, no apologies necessary. I think even those fans who love this song have little problem acknowledging that it’s different and may be seen as an outlier.
Old School Banger!
I like the MV and the song, but I really like it live. Like most of their songs, it takes on a lot of intensity when done live. But yeah, it's very different than most of their material for sure.
My friend, this song is very controversial. It was not written by them and nor does it produce (Tony Visconti = TREX, David Bowie, etc.). Apparently it was David Bowie's producer who suggested they collaborate for something they had prepared. It was one more opportunity for the girls. It has the smell and taste of an 'Americanized' track including its lyrical content. It doesn't seem like something that fits BAND MAID's journey. In my opinion it is more a moment of doubt or incomprehension on the part of the producer although the girls resolved it with dignity and professionalism.
I think both parties entered into something with mutual high hopes, and the result has been a let down. It happens, but they have enough of a catalogue that it won’t be held against them.
This! It is what you would expect if you gave a script from the wonderful Hayao Miyazaki and gave it to Disney instead of Studio Ghibli to produce and animate. The sense is that weird stuff is both lost and added in "translation".
No surprise since it is a mashup.I was blah about this song , UNTIL I started seeing live versions. The live performances are quite a step up. Another song that is not very popular is Start Over, mostly because of poor visuals in the MV. But the song itself is bright and jazzy, with strong lyrics.
But after this experience, they wrote “Flying High” which is a all BandMaid song and an under the radar banger.
I thought Kanami wrote the music but Visconti's associate who was a fan wrote the lyrics?
It does indeed provide a chill laid-back album moment...and I don't skip it. It's a warm up for 'Flying High' where that Maid Rock zing just returns to slap you about the face. So...honoured as they were to collaborate...they don't need external producers or guidance. THEY are the experts in their own rock story.
There will be no backlash from the community over this song. The most controversial song in their discography. With that said, if a band doesn't experiment they don't learn and grow. Did they learn from this song? They don't let anyone else produce their music, they don't mess with the song writing process and Saiki has the last say on what is to be released. Tony Visconti loves them and wanted to produce a song of theirs, Saiki and Miku flew to NY to record the vocals. Saiki had to learn each line in English and took 8 hours to record, while the rest of the band worked on the music in Tokyo. To me it sounds over produced and forced, not the organic style that is Band Maid. Compared to Bubble and Manners, songs of a similar genre, this is not their best. I still like it though.
@@chrisbergsten1429 YES to Flying High. I really thing that he would enjoy it.
@@chrisbergsten1429 OOOOOOOHHHHHH so I'm not alone in thinking "Flying High" (in My top 5 Band-Maid songs and My ringtone) is Band-Maids Take on the Tony Visconti "The Dragon Cries"
@@chrisbergsten1429 still cool that it probably is true I have ALWAYS been convinced "Flying High" (Love Miku's Shouts) is "The Dragon Cries" 2.0
A friend of mine, who like myself grew up listening to classic rock, really likes this song, whereas I can't get him interested in anything else from Band-Maid. For me it's kind of middle of the road B-M. I like it more than a lot of the early songs that were written for them.
I need to check some of the early ones out I think
Words by Thomas Kennel, produced by Toni Visconti, Music by Band-Maid.
For me, I love the nostalgic classic rock groove of this song but I certainly want to hear your honest opinion. If we all agreed on every song it would be a damn boring world. Peace.
Thank you! Classic rock ain’t really my thing, I don’t honestly know much about it!
I love this song since the first time I listen to it. It absolutely kicks butt
It’s alright, this is one of the few tracks you can get away with saying negative things about and the fan base will spend more time arguing with each other than the reactor.
Besides, you’ve built up plenty of credit and good will that we can accept opinions that *occasionally* we disagree with.
This wasn’t written by them and you can tell in this era of their music especially
I saw you mention elsewhere you want to dig into their old stuff. My favorite from that era is FREEZER. There is no video or good live song, just the studio track (and a great fan cover). There is a vocal back and forth in it they just don’t do anymore.
Since the first album isn’t written by them… I might just do that whole album in one go 😂
My understanding is it was written by them but Visconti produced and heavily influenced it.
@@markabusireactionsaside from “Alone” on the 3rd album, all 3 of their first 3 albums were written for them.
The first album is the most different because the studio thought they were a pop rock band, but Thrill went viral between that and their second album so they went more hard rock going forward. FREEZER is a second album hard rock song.
All that said, I’d be 100% down to hear your reaction to the first album, Maid in Japan
@@falconsooner I believe that the English lyrics for the Dragon Cries were written by Tony Visconti's friend, Thomas Kenney.
@@evilducks3710 Not sure where the notion that this song wasn't written by them comes from. Unless you just mean the lyrics, which were written by a friend of Mr. Visconti's. The music tho was written by Kanami; she said in an interview that Mr. Visconti liked the demo right off the bat, and very few changes were made musically to it. What you hear is pretty much what Kanami wrote, and the band tweaked into final form. As far as musical "era's" goes, this song released in Conqueror, an album of astonishing diversity (compare, e.g., this song with "Page," "Rinne," and "Wonderland"). "The Dragon Cries" does not feel stylistically incongruous to me for this band; in fact, it feels quite similar to me as "Chemical Reaction" in their next album.
Dragons, a poignant commentary of the sad, self-inflicted current state of the world, is a great plunge into the bluesy rock style given to us by Hendrix and others. Heard live (and without the overly compressed mix), the song jumps from the souls of the members and into our minds as a warning. Let's all heed that warning and support each other and our home planet! Thx, Mark!
I loved this song from the first time I heard it. Still do. Maybe it has a throwback classic rock feel to me. I'm older than you, maybe that's why I like it so much.
That’s fair enough dude, we’re all allowed to like what we like! It didn’t grab me this time, but there’s nothing to suggest it might not grow on me over time
It's a great song 🎸🎸🎸🎤🥁🙂☮️🇨🇦
If you can hear/watch the LCS version of The Dragon Cries, I think you would enjoy it much more. The studio version has a LOT of compression which I feel cuts the mid range too much.
And the music was written by Kanami, while the lyrics were written by Tom Kenney and the song was produced by Tony Visconti. It has been suggested that when Tony finished mastering the song, the Ladies label remastered it. Leading to the over compression.
And we come here for your interpretation, so no hate from me. I would just ask you to try to find the Line Cube Shibuya version. I really think you will enjoy it much more.
You know me. Certified card-carrying Maidiac, Omeisyusama and all.
Band Maid have all the tools necessary to make any song better. Imagine how bad this song would be if a normal band recorded it.
Maybe hyperbole. Ok.
For me, I prefer Saiki singing in Japanese. A few English words, but she can’t possibly “feel” and emote through her instrument with words she doesn’t understand.
You said it best. Comparing this to other Band Maid songs? Arguably one of history’s largest catalog of genuine hit songs?
It doesn’t hold up.
I understand how some people find this song a disappointment but I love it. They took a risk. This song is outside the box for BAND-MAID. If they have a box. lol
I think maybe because it wasn't actually produced by them? It was done by Tony Viscontii of Bowie fame. I like this song because it almost feels like a ode to the classic rock style.
Visconti only produced/ recorded the vocals, and others have pointed out the problems of combining two completely different studio sessions.
@@stevehall5128 Thanks for the info. It has problems but I still love this song.
For me, what turned the corner on TDC was -- surprise surprise -- the live shows, especially its US debut in NY. They really made it their own. TDC always seemed a little off-brand to me, but at the same time, just another example of how they can write and play anything.
Great reaction! I like the song much more than you but you were very specific in your reasons which I respect.
To me the song sounds more like Hendrix than Hair Metal. I do think the bridge is masterful in portraying chaos which fits the lyrics and imagery.
In retrospect the hair metal comment was wrong, I just couldn’t think of the right phrase at the time! 😂
I've been enjoying your Band-Maid reactions, but this is the one that got me to subscribe. It IS a "good song", as long as you don't compare it to other Band-Maid songs.
Like with a lot of their songs, the live is a better experience ( if you can find the right one ;-P ), but the MV was the right choice to understand the controversy from the Maidiacs.
Keep up the good work. People need to remember that a reaction is an opinion piece, and should respect that. If they assume that theirs is more valid than anyone else's, they can obviously go and get f***ed
Opinions are like arseholes. Everyone's got one, and most should definitely not be aired in public 😀
lol! Thank you for subscribing, I appreciate that! It’s a little weird the negative one is that one that finally convinced you, but I’ll take it 😂
@@markabusireactions It's the fact that you don't hold back, rather than pandering to whichever fandom that can be especially vocal 🙂
@@s0l1ta1re7 well, the eventual plan is to have my own fandom, and I can’t get that by playing to the cheap seats ☺️
Shows how high their standards are. A so-so Band Maid song is still above par.
6:54 I'm not feeling it in this one....
*MISA* "Here I Come to Save the Day"
I maybe spoke to soon. 😛
TBH In a live setting they kill this song believe the content of this video might be to distracting.
The song that Tony Visconti insisted they record. I think the record company just squeezed the master into oblivion. I feel the video is even more compressed than the album.
I feel like having an outsider's influence on the creative process for this song, gives it a different flavor that some people don't much care for. Like you have a favorite food that your grandmother makes, but then you get that same food from some other place, and it's just not the same. It's not terrible, but it's not grandma's cooking.
It is my least favorite Band-Maid song. But I'd still listen to it over SO many other songs from so many other bands.
That’s a very good analogy, I like that!
This song exists, I don't have it on my playlists. Never was a fan of it. I'm happy they were able to work with Tony Visconti but it's such a deviation from the sound that made me love Band-Maid in the first place. And it's not because I don't like songs that weren't written by them. FREEZER and Real Existence are fantastic, and Freedom I love, with only the lyrics done by Miku.
I believe the outline for TDC was written by Kanami but was changed quite a bit in the production booth and recording.
I also prefer Saiki when she sings in Japanese, as it's just much more natural feeling.
I agree with all of that
As someone who grew up in those times, there's a modern misconception that metal and rock are the same. They are not. Metal grew out of hard rock. This is very hard, hard rock. The likes of bands like Zepplin, Sabbath and the like. Tony Iomi was once asked how he liked being called "metal". He replied "We are a hard rock band",(paraphrased). Band Maid has always called themselves a hard rocking band. And they write and play hard rock along with other genres mixed in as only they can do. But still the rock is always there.
I mean, I usually call them emo, so there’s that 😂
Well, we are all allowed to be wrong occasionally. LOL. @@markabusireactions
To really understand my feelings about this song, you have to check out Corallium, and contrast the use of vocals when they’re not just playing it safe.
I will get there eventually lol
I wouldn’t ask you to apologize for thinking it’s merely “okay”… but “hair metal”?!?! Those are fighting words, lol! And I don’t know where that comes from. This is straight out of the late 60’s and 70’s. A great homage to classic rock.
It comes from a place of sheer ignorance, and me scrambling for the right words and getting it wrong 😂
Legendary songs for me.
A great reaction as always Mark it’s much appreciated although it pains me to say I agree with your comments, it is definitely not a bad song at all, it is just a different feel maybe being all in English or a different producer. I’m going to go back and re-watch your Blooming video to feel better
Hahahah thank you!!
I think it was an attempt to make an accessible song for westerners (especially Americans) who find Japanese lyrics and the complexity of a lot of Band-Maid's music a barrier. I do still enjoy it, especially live, but I don't disagree with your criticisms.
Thank you!!
My interpretation so far has been different: Couldn't it be that the depressing theme of the song was intended to be emphasized by the musical mood and event by the vocal compression? I can really understand what disturbs you about that ... but ...
... everyone listens to a song differently... pays attention to different things... different aspects are important to everyone! That's why music is generally controversial 😈
I find "The dragon cries" to be a very intense song, both musically and lyrically. In addition, I just love variety (as I'm sure you do too) ... and this song is definitely different, we can all agree on that, right?
@@skrrytch Yes, I like variety, and also Band-Maid have challenged the boundaries of my musical taste a lot more with songs like "about Us", "start over" or "influencer" than with this song. There is plenty of room in my heart for "The Dragon Cries", especially live where the production/mastering and video issues are not there. (Btw I disagree with many people's criticisms of the lyrics and video - the topic is good and occasionally writing serious, or even miserable, songs is good. My problem with the lyrics and video is that they feel lazy/clumsy and I don't find any real meaning in them.)
Yeah, this song divides the Maidiacs... I'm in the "love it" camp, and here's why.
First of all, that is NOT hair metal. You need to go back to the late 60's, early 70's for this sound. It stems from the psychedelic blues rock of that era. Think Hendrix and Cream. This is the music of my childhood. There are a few songs on the "Conquerer" album that have this guitar sound.
Their label wanted them to partner with Tony Visconti on this song, and Tony definitely put his stamp on the production. You don't get the variation you find in most Band Maid songs, to the point that almost sounds like a cover instead of an original.
But come on...the chunky guitar riff along with the warmth in that bass tone, and those drums....those drums! That is capturing the spirit of Ginger Baker right there. Yeah, it's very straightforward (except for the breakdown...that was just...wow), and in your face, but for an old geezer like me, I love this old school sound!
And no, that was not a mistake on the guitar fill before the second verse. It ended that way to keep tension moving into the next verse. Listen to the note Saiki sings on "Then" to start the second verse. It's flatted. Almost dissonant. They don't resolve the tension until the end of the phrase, which fits the lyric "Then you left me..."
But hey, I look at Band Maid music like ice cream. Not all are going to be my favorite flavor, but they are all still good!
(I still gave you a Like)
In a vacuum, it's a pretty decent song. (The middle/solo section is killer and, if you listen with headphones, there's some pretty cool musical stuff going on in the mix.) It's just that some people think it doesn't quite measure up to the band's entirely self-written material. I tend to agree. It sounds a liittle too much like an homage to the producer, co-writer, and 1970s hard rock.
My theory is that the people who love this song love 70s rock. The song is familiar, nostalgic, and expected. And those are mostly the same reasons why others don't like it so much. Different strokes apply here. IMO, the band did it better themselves on "Flying High" and "Manners." I think they're both great and I'm not even a big fan of that style.
The guitar has elements to my ear at least of Jimi Hendrix like sound. Not his style just his tune. This song was done for an Anime series, I think by listening to the song the lyrics were written first and the way the singing was going to be sung established and then the song was written around that. Some songs are written and then lyrics are added second.
Mark, maybe next Monday give Band-Maid a miss, and try another talented band called Band-Maiko. Either of the songs Gion Cho or Secret Maiko Lips.😅
not my favorite song but this song has one of the coolest breakdowns with those hi-hat stabs
And now you understand why this is a somewhat contentious song from their discography.
This was recorded with a New York producer, who had lyrics written in English for them, an attempt to meddle with perfection, and breakthrough US market . only saved by the girl's individual styles. However when left to themselves in live , away from meddling hands, it is noticeably better, So you are right on, with your criticism. i was let down too. Good on you for sticking to your guns in your review and I am sure a lot of Maidiacs will agree with you, but as i said, live away from studio, it is better, but..... not pure Band Maid.
This is not a bad song, just one you like less than others ?
😏♥️🎙🎸🥁😎🤘
Yes!
I like this song. It's not my favorite, but it's good. The biggest problem I see with it is that it's not finished. Apparently Kanami sent the music to Visconte, expecting feedback. Visconte didn't have any and just rolled with what he was sent. I can see this confusing Kanami because , to her, it was just a draft. I haven't heard the live but people say it's much better, maybe because the band got a chance to tweak it?
I read that interview as well. Kanami is a perfectionist. That is how when she took parts of TDC to write Flying High, she went all out.
As far as I can tell, it's the same exact song live but it definitely has more punch and dynamism. I think Kanami's live sound for this song has a bit more modern distorted tone, there are obviously fewer guitar layers, and Saiki sings it a bit more aggressively. It does make a difference.
Lol thats not hair metal, it'd be brighter and certainly quicker in tempo, this is more a dirgy doom based rocker, slightly akin to late 70's sabbath. Just my opinion 😁🤟🤟
No no, you’re right, I got my time periods mixed up lol
Oh. Oh no. As much as I *adore* this band, I just can't handle this one. I see a lot of guys my age and older in the BM community talk about them as reviving the spirit of classic '70s and '80s rock and metal, but I don't really hear that at all, and tbh think it does them a massive disservice. They're way more interesting and inventive than that! But then there's this song... You totally nailed it when you said it's lacking anything that makes it Band-Maid (instrumental section notwithstanding). It just doesn't feel like them. The production is part of it, I think.
Yeah, I agree with this. I hear a lot of different things in their sound but I don't hear a predominant 70s or 80s sound, either. I'd guess a lot of people identify with the fact that they're both musically adventurous and highly melodic, which feels in short supply in the hard rock and metal scenes in recent years. (Although, that's not entirely true if you know where to look). Plus, we all hear different things.
I can't understand why this track is disliked so much. Some do not like that it is in English, some do not like classic rock feel, some complain about the mix and compression, some just want more complexity to it.
Whatever it is I think the set the bar so high that it makes anything that is really good look ordinary. Plus iam a classic rock fan and it has many of those qualities. Sometimes you want to hear a song that is not always ck and the song is not pushing the tempo to 200 bpm like most of their stuff. Sometimes you want feel something at a tempo where a groove is at an optimal level.
I like their earlier stuff 🤷♂️
Fair enough. But I' am one who likes this song.And what it's all about. The meaning of the words, & the images, are a bit too real & confronting for a lot of people, so that puts them off the song itself.
Unfortunately it is a theme that many bands have been singing about since the 70's, but the problems are just getting worse. No wonder the Dragon cries, as it watches us say goodbye to the world.
We don't sing about acid rains anymore. It must have improved on some aspects.
The theme is fine, but it’s a bad fit for the band. Their message is very much that you have to seize the moment, and this song is very mopey and defeatist. If they did it on their own, you’d feel pumped to go help conservation and fight climate change and shit, but this is like, wah, feel sad.
Yeah but it was still good! It wasn't all theirs, Kanami had to fit the song to the lyrics written by a friend of Tony Visconti (A fan) who produced it with Miku and Saiki who were doing the vocal part in America, the music was Maid in Japan and shipped out and mixed by T V. It's argued that there's to much compression in there.....But I like it : )
Oddly enough, *"Blooming"* is the so-called album filler. It's the one song that Kanami was worried about getting done for the album, and went to the rest of the band for ideas. But the whole band works together as a unit so they're never _really_ out of ideas. But as others have pointed out, Tom Kenney had heard them and therefore was a fan, and he convinced Tony Visconti to go to a concert in NYC; Visconti contacted them and wanted to produce them. Kenney wrote the lyrics and Kanami wrote the music (and Tony made no changes to her writing). There's a lot of echo in the mix but it's for effect and I don't hate it. Some people think the lyrics are atypical (which they are - they are not Miku's style) and the video is heavy-handed (wow, they should listen to songs written during the Vietnam era!). Compare this to *"Fate"* on the previous album "World Domination" - it has music by Kentarō Akutsu and lyrics by Kobato Miku... or *"Mirage"* on "Conqueror."
The first version of the credits I saw for "Fate' only listed Kentaro Akutsu under arrangement and "Band Maid" as composer, although the current credits listed on Spotify list "Band Maid" (Kanami) and Kentaro as co-composers and there are no arrangement credits at all. Did he co-write, arrange, or both? Just curious.
It's not horrible, but I feel like it would never make my Band-Maid playlists, which is about 30-40 songs long. There are a lot of other songs by them that are out of the normal band maid box, and I just enjoy those more!
"HIBANA" is still one of my favorite lesser know songs. B-side done for a Rainbow Six Tournament. I wish I could find a good live for that, but so far most have pretty bad audio.
LA, 2022 US Tour (HQ audio). "Hibana" starts at 45:01. Best fan cam audio I've heard of this song yet. The camera work is a little hectic, but you'll be fine: ruclips.net/video/jabuhmrn3zA/видео.html
@markabusireactions Ask this channel owner permission to use this footage if you decide to do this song. As the OP states, there aren't many good audio quality live versions of this song. But don't forget to consider the studio version, either. please. It's cool.
The issue that splits fans about this song isn't whether it's a "good song" or not. It is. It's the amount of compression added during the recording production and the video (many felt it was a bit "preachy").
Not during the recording production but during the mastering (post-production).
I felt it was a bit meh tbh, especially from the Maids.
@markabusireactions it's not anywhere near my favorite. I think they did a much better job capturing this style of groove with Manners.
@@armynurseboyand Flying High, the follow-up song.
@@markabusireactions Weird thing with this song is that the better the playback gear, the worse it sounds. Sounds great in the car on poor system (Mercedes...you f*ckin w*nkers) but crap on quality Hi-Fi.
Hahaha. Always enjoy your reactions, regardless. That transition after the first guitar solo IS weird. It DOES sound kind of...."unfinished?". But I still like the song and I've heard it slaps live. The track sounds to me like it time travelled from say, 1968. Thanks much, Mark! 🕊️
You’re welcome! 😂
It's meant to be a little unexpected but it's not unfinished or a mistake. When all the other instruments dropped out they didn't come back in on the 1 at the beginning of the bar like you would expect; they came back in on 2, I think. They actually employ something like that in a lot of their songs.
@@ApexRadius it’s just a very strange transition. Musically pretty cool, but definitely not normal 😂
@@markabusireactions Yeah, it's not normal--which is why I like their music. Listen to it a second time without distraction and you'll totally get it.
Ok,so Tony Visconti produced it ,Miku and Saiki recorded the vocals in NYC.
I like it but it's one of the few Band Maid songs that when it comes on I don't go 'yes!!!'
Of Couse it is not rubbish , the track was produced by Tony Visconti who is a big Band-Maid Fan. They Point is that me, and maybe other ppl are missing the BM Vibe. It´s different and honestly one of the few Tracks i do not like . But what should the Girls have done , when someone like Visconti wants to produce a Song with you other than feeling honored. Guess we share the same feeling about this one ... It is not a Band-Maid Song , even when they perform it.
They should have told him to shove it 😂
@@markabusireactions Haha
@@markabusireactions Impossible, you got to respect your elders.
Remember saiki and miku flew to New York to get with an American producer to do this song so now this would be why it's in English and under the influence of an American producer so it was probably a chance t American radio but to me all of their songs could and should be splattered all over American radio they are just that good no make that great
Most people will agree it's the least band maid song. It was produced by an American producer
If you don’t like the song, no problem.
Better to say it than to make excuses for it or fib.
TBH, saying you think this is poor gives you more credibility when you say you really like something.
Hi mark 3 band's for you to check out ! killt Melt Land and there song be Iam, live the new band maid!?, and Rolling Quartz and there song Fearless ,1.2 million views in 4 weeks ! East of Eden 800k + views.! The new All the best Matt
I’ll add them to my list!
I wrote a whole paragraph on this and I for got to hit the comment button. I'm not writing it again. Anyway, here's an all new one. Suffice it to say, not my favorite song. So, you're not the only one. Even Tony Visconti couldn't save it. Or maybe he ruined it. But it's not the song as much as the video. I don't really care for the 'Starting Over''s video either with a couple of actors playing a couple breaking up. But this dystopian Eco Warrior Nightmare? Lets just say the dragon isn't the only one crying. But the have so many great songs! Even The Beatles can have an few clinkers. The video for 'Now And Then' is good, but the song's not their best. As Samuel Goldwyn quoted Moss Hart, "If you want to send a message, call Western Union."
I did a video on that one too!
I'm pretty divided on this song, I don't think it's bad, but it's easily their "worst" song to me. I know some people like to harp on their first album because they didn't write it and it was before they really found their sound, but I still think that whole album is more enjoyable
I mean, it may not be their best, but I still had fun listening to it. What many people don't understand is that there's a difference between saying "good, but they did other songs better" and saying "even Hot Problems by Double Take was better" . I mean, damn.... sometimes opinions can get too hyperbolic (and this is why I don't like calling mysel,f a Zelda fan, because I like Zelda games but the fanbase is among the worst because of knee-jerking all the time)
Never heard Double Take, hopefully never will 😂
So I admit, it's not among their best songs and really, calling it album filler is pretty fair. Personally, within the context of the album it's on, Conqueror, I think it fits because it's very much their experimental album. I appreciate that they were willing to do something a bit different and try some things that were out of their range (Rinne and Blooming were also from this album) but I FULLY get how waiting a week and getting B-Tier at best Band-Maid would be crushingly disappointing. Anyway thanks for putting yourself out there, doing one of their weird songs and spreading them cheeks for the maidiac mob; hopefully we don't go TOO hard on ya (honestly you didn't even say the song was bad, but I know you held back).
I didn’t hold back too much tbh 😂 the song isn’t bad, and I picked apart the things I didn’t like. I knew in advance from reputation it was gonna be a bit of a controversial choice, so I tried to be as fair and balanced as I could!
Spot on Mark. BM most skippable song after Start Over.
Tony Visconti who is a great producer took Band-Maid and (it seems) tried to take everything that makes them special and remove it from this song. They do manage to shine during the breakdown and Kanami's guitar work is always great but the rest is pretty generic. It's a fine song for anyone else but we Band-Maid fans are spoiled and expect more. They didn't write the lyrics and while I appreciate the message, I agree it's a bit on the noise. Miku, who writes most of their lyrics tends to be much more poetic, even after translated into English. It was a fine experiment but I'm glad they haven't worked with Visconti again and are continuing to do things their way.
And this is why you are tops for me as a reactor. You tell it like it is and this is coming from a 'true' BAND-MAID fanatic. p.s. I like this song, but I believe Tony Visconti tried to make it more mainstream instead of letting Kanami and the others do their thing. Looking forward to your next reaction on any band you plan to do.
Well o think you’ll like tomorrows video 😂
This was an American made song ,I believe in New York. An Americans idea of what they should play. They were wrong.
Not bad,just not Band Maid.
The biggest thing about The Dragon Cries. for maidiacs is band maid didn't write the lyrics.
Got a crap ton of work today, I better get starte... OOOO a new markabusi BAND-MAID reaction. I'd just like to say the vocal compression on this stinks. ;)
Damn your first big comment basically summarizes how much of the fandom feel about this song. Except whacko right wing fans who hate any reminder that people do impact the environment. They have their own axe to grind.
It's not the reminding of an impact that is bothersome. It's being reminded by those whose impact is greater in a year than most people's impact in a lifetime. I'm not a fan of being preached to by those unworthy of preaching.
@@user-tf2wd1eh3g Can't really speak to how worthy the band is of that. Regardless, it's certainly not a nuanced approach, more of a bullhorn-into-the-ear attempt.
@@crabuki1273 I would say any band that tours the world is unworthy to speak on this topic. Even if the message is pure, it's been tainted by the messenger.
@@user-tf2wd1eh3g Hmm... for me that doesn't carry water, because at that point the only people "worthy" to criticize would be what? The Amish? That's cheeky, but really, the message is real, and it's important. In the end, you have to get it out any way you can. THAT SAID... not sure this video was a great way to do it. Have a great night :)
MISA MISA MISA!!!!! I can see where Your coming from for Me it's "Glory" Not a Bad song but it doesn't resonate with Me and as with Your re-action to this song it's the Chorus that lets it down (for Me).
I'm sorry ... I think I have something in my ear ... did you say "The Dragon Whines"???
I always get blasted in the comments section for criticizing this song :p ... it just does not fit the BAND MAID recipe, especially lyrically. The only "political message" song ever done by our MAIDs. Glad they did not stick with this. Fine to hear once but ... next ;) .
You did a great job with the reaction 👌
I kinda like the song but mostly for the solo part at the end that I know is coming so all song I look forward to it which keeps me entertained enough. But yeah, not up to Band Maid standards.
Thank you!
Not the most popular song, as you can tell from the comments above, but I find the live versions (fan cam versions) to be much, much better than the canned version.
Probably because they can cut loose and add some life into the song, rather than hit the CD
The live is better because the whole song isn’t buried under a grungy filter
The problem is that it’s a Toni Visconti song and not a Band Maid song and is just straight up American blues rock. It sounds very generic. Maybe popular stateside but definitely my least favourite song. I’ve never been a rock fan (old school metal and hardcore) Band maid is the first real rock band I’ve liked(loved) because they bring so much to the genre. This song doesn’t bring anything new at all.
Hi mate- suggestion enlarge your viewers screen it's pityfully tiny let's go .
The music video screen? That’s because you’re meant to be concentrating on ME 😂
Yeah, no. That was fair. 🙂
Thank you!
Depression from compression. I don't leave main comments on TDC anymore but i did say on one of Marks other reactions "Live at Shibuya or not at all". Glad to see he took that on board then.😆
Now that he's seen the M/V maybe I should cut it out from Shibuya and then he can see the best possible version. I don't think it's on YT, is it?
@@80mtn No it's not on YT. Yep there is a definite difference sound wise live. Or you could send Mark "Take Me Higher" live & see if he can guess the something that shall not be mentioned.🤭
@@80mtn Send him the link to the LCS Version you have squirreled away. Once he sees the live at LCS he will understand how this song is so divisive.
Yeah, s'alright. Nice enough groove but eh.
One of the few English only songs. Hate the video, hate the BS message...... it's just not Band-Maid. Too bad they had a has been American producer make this video.....PU! If Band-Maid ever made one mistake, it was this video, not the song. This is the ONLY negatively messaged song in their library. Markabusi we think alike.....you are not wrong.
Yeah, the chorus is weak. The guitar parts are mostly interesting, even that unresolved fill you mentioned. (I think the lack of resolution is meant to create an uneasy feeling.) And I think the bridge is really good. I suspect they are trying to stay out of the way of the message and overdo it. But to have impact, a message has to be heard and this song is not gonna get the listens it could have with one of their complex arrangements and a stronger vocal melody. There are a dozen or so Band Maid songs I don't like out of the 100 I've heard. This isn't one of those dozen, it's saved by the guitar and the bridge, but it's close.
There are more bad songs? Interesting…
@@markabusireactions They didn't write their songs for the first few years. Can't think of more than a couple since then that I don't like. And I'm thinking of songs I don't care for. Not sure they're bad in a broader sense. I know that some fans like them.
I love the song, just not the video much. I know the word is going to hell in hand basket, already!
NGL it's like a bottom 10% Band-Maid song IMHO. The solo and bridge are good but that's the peak of it.
Yeh this is their only song that I will skip when it comes on, I feel like Akane has been handcuffed in this one which affects everything else.
This is the only song of theirs that I skip when it comes up on a playlist. That's not bad when you consider they have 100+ songs in their back catalog.
I think Tony Visconti's production on this track throws off a lot of people. Lead guitar way up front with bass and drums pulled back . Not BM style at all. I also think Tony had the idea of singing the whole song in english. Now don't get me wrong Tony V produced a lot of great artist like David Bowie. I just think his style doesn't fit Band Maid.
This is one of those songs where the term "musicking" applies. How you are hearing the song really impacts enjoyment of it. Watching the offputting music video seems to consistently be the worst presentation of the song.
I can’t even remember the music video tbh, I paid it almost no attention
as far as it goes this is my least favorite band maid song, the musicianship is there saiki and mikus vocals are as good as ever it just doesn't sound like a band maid song. Tony Visconti being the discordant influence for me nothing against him its just a collaboration that was off for me.
This song is not a pure band maid song. It's the only song I hate. It's a song that doesn't seem like a band maid arranged by a super famous American？music producer.
I don't like the production on the song even before I found out it was done by Visconti
clarification... almost everyone loves the song... almost no one likes the 'you should feel guilty' video theme
Well now I feel guilty for not loving the song and thinking the video was stunning
99% of BM tracks are upbeat, rocking, inspiring gems that make you feel great and enjoy the moment …. why this track would go so depressingly opposite in message and tone is a mystery.
This is my least favourite Band Maid song in their catalog. They didn't write the lyrics and Tony Visconti produced it. Plus the visuals of the video just don't mesh with the positivity and vibe of what Band Maid are all about about. Tony is a great and legendary producer but he did not do the ladies any favours with this song.
The only BAND-MAID song I don’t like. The lyrics, which didn’t write, are maudlin. The chorus especially is super annoying. And it’s strangely lacking a hook, which other BAND-MAID songs have in abundance. Of course, MISA and AKANE are bringing it, as usual. I’m not saying it’s bad, though. It’s just not made for me.
If you want a song about protecting the Earth, try FIRE LANCES OF THE ANCIENT HYPERZYPHERIANS, by THE SWORD. If you’re looking for a poetic song about having empathy for the less fortunate, try HOW BEAUTIFUL YOU ARE, by THE CURE.
That first song title is fucking epic 😂😂
I love BM but this song really shows the hand of Visconti (the producer) and does not suit the band at all so it's always a skip for me. Not a good song for Band-Maid standards.
To me, it's one of their weakest songs. And as you said it's a more than OK song. That's also why we often say they don't have a bad song.
But this song, from the music, the message, the MV to the language is one of their less band-maid-like songs. I'm putting most of this on the fact it's the result of a collab with an american producer who didn't really understand who he was working with.
Nice reaction, I'll probably be here for the next one.
I hope you are! There’s about another 10 Bandmaid videos on the channel if you get bored in the meantime 😂
It is a Tony Visconti song and so was produced and written by somebody else. The song was over produced and over compressed and the MV is over preachy and while it is still a good song. It just isn't Band Maid. A good song but will always feel somebody else's song. So no great drop off in subscribers for your comments. The fact that the song is rarely played live probably says it all.
Produced by Visconti and an external lyricist, yes. Band-Maid wrote the music.
Sad to say it but this is a skip for me. I don't like it at all, like you say I think we have just been spoilt by the maids awesomeness.
Bad video not the song
Let’s agree to disagree