Repairing Atari's 1982 Dig Dug Arcade Game! Hack Removed!

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  • @LyonsArcade
    @LyonsArcade  4 года назад +13

    Get your own Dig Dug Plush Here: amzn.to/3aGkMNV
    Anything you purchase on Amazon after clicking that link gives us a little referral tip, thank you! Now go buy a Bicycle Pump or something!

    • @Inject0r
      @Inject0r 4 года назад +2

      Joe's Classic Video Games this fix was very nice and all, but won’t the cabinet be back within a couple of months or so, due to the resistance on the ground lead of the edge connector? There must be a reason why it got so hot, right? (Or am I missing something here?)
      Other than that, really nice video and great troubleshooting!

    • @evergriven7402
      @evergriven7402 4 года назад +2

      Thanks for the video ...
      A couple questions please : where did you get the pins for the Jamma connector any online links ?
      what kind of monitor was that k7000? or mitsushita?

    • @stephenlongsmovieandvideog9283
      @stephenlongsmovieandvideog9283 4 года назад +1

      I think it's a Matsushita

    • @ArtStoneUS
      @ArtStoneUS 3 года назад +1

      Dig dug plush toy is no longer available on Amazon 😭

    • @jaybrooks1098
      @jaybrooks1098 3 года назад

      Since there isn’t any masking the tin becomes a sacrificial metal because of the two different metals and current. This will eat away at the traces till there isn’t any. Using dielectric grease will probably prevent the issue since it will prevent moisture from forming electrolyte.

  • @simonmanners4108
    @simonmanners4108 4 года назад +14

    I have to confess I did something wrong the other day. I watched a RUclips video about a gentleman showing how to wash a rope. I thought “well I could do that and maybe get something right”. I was sceptical though because the comments where full of howls of indignation about how he was doing it all wrong. So I tried to wash my rope using the generous information provided in the video. To my dismay it came out clean, I must have gotten it all wrong because according to all the expert comments it was done all wrong.

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  4 года назад +2

      LOL I hate it when that happens!

  • @Maxxarcade
    @Maxxarcade 4 года назад +4

    Fixing a game is always satisfying, but can get really frustrating depending on who got to it before you did LOL. Atari games are pretty well built and easy to work on. And they also weigh a ton compared to other 19" games.

  • @EvanAxer
    @EvanAxer 4 года назад +11

    Great job man I love repair videos and seeing the passion you have with you great knowledge of electronics. Very clean fix and Putting it back to factory was the right way to do the job. Job well done Joe!

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  4 года назад

      Thanks Evan, we appreciate you watching with us as we work through it :)

  • @tonypitsacota2513
    @tonypitsacota2513 3 года назад +3

    Oh, wow, that brings back good memories. I played Dig-Dug against our peewee quarterback, who's name was Doug in a pizza joint after Saturday games. We still call him Dig-Doug to this day.

  • @JamesPotts
    @JamesPotts 4 года назад +11

    Machined-pin sockets make the best connection. They have 4 wipers inside. Back when the company I'm at used dips, they were the only type allowed. (We make safety-critical stuff.)

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  4 года назад +2

      I like them!

    • @ManofCulture
      @ManofCulture 3 года назад

      better than flat pin ic socket

    • @douro20
      @douro20 2 года назад

      Are you sure they have wipers in them? Every machined pin socket I have seen just had a machined blind hole and a chamfer and were sometimes plated on the inside.

    • @JamesPotts
      @JamesPotts 2 года назад

      @@douro20 traditionally they do. Now I might need to get the microscope out.

  • @JackP8414
    @JackP8414 4 года назад +13

    20:56
    "When you wish upon a star..."
    [death sound!]

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  4 года назад +1

      And what a beautiful death sound it was!

    • @djmips
      @djmips 4 года назад

      @@LyonsArcade sounded like victory

  • @DeadKoby
    @DeadKoby 4 года назад +2

    I was ready to pounce....... Dig Dug is a NAMCO GAME........ distributed in the USA by Atari.... you get a pass.

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  4 года назад +1

      This is the Atari dig dug cabinet, chill out a little bit Koby and try to enjoy life without having to be right about everything all the time. Everything I touched in this video was designed by Atari, none of it was designed by Namco.

  • @1959blantz
    @1959blantz 4 года назад +2

    I was able to repair my Centipede machine by using copper tape as you did in this video. You must have shown that in some of your previous videos because I always check your channel as reference whenever I'm doing any repairs.I have always used an ink eraser to clean the fingers on edge connectors, and it always seems to do the trick but I'd like to know your secret for cleaning edge connectors. My next project in on my Midway "Space Invaders" machine. I'm missing a few sounds. If my memory serves me correctly, when the saucer flies across the screen the saucer sound is different than what it should be. Also, there is no sound when I hit the invaders. I get sound when I shoot, I just get no sound when they are hit.

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  4 года назад +1

      When you do your space Invaders, you've probably looked into it already but there are a bunch of LM3900 chips on the soundboard that if they go bad it kills certain sounds, you can look on the schematics and see which chip makes which sound. Replace that chip and it will likely fix your missing sounds, I believe we did a video on here a long time ago showing how to do it.
      One caveat though, the "Invader hit" sound you're missing, if you look on the Space Invaders schematics, there's a typo where the wrong place is referred to as the Invader Hit area. So if you use Space Invaders Deluxe schematics, they fixed it and the area they say is the Invader Hit sound is correct. If you pull up both sets of schematics you'll see what I'm talking about.... thanks for watching B L, we appreciate it and good job on your Centipede :)

  • @Sun-ut9gr
    @Sun-ut9gr 4 года назад +5

    7:40 Pink rubber eraser from a pencil. Takes off the tarnish/oxidation without damaging the trace. I did the same thing when I restored my friend's Simpsons game. It works for all PCBs, gold plated or otherwise.
    There, I ruined your magic.

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  4 года назад +1

      I didn't say it, now you'll have to deal with people telling you that erasers damage the traces because they have some crap in it that's acidic. At least that's what people complained to me :)

    • @Sun-ut9gr
      @Sun-ut9gr 4 года назад +1

      @@LyonsArcade I've never heard of erasers being acidic, so I had to check. Per the SDS for PaperMate's pink eraser and their wood pencil lines, there are no harmful compounds or chemical incompatibilities known.
      www.sprproductinformation.com/SDS/SAN/PMPinkPearl_70527.pdf
      www.officedepot.com/pdf/msds/929661.pdf
      Whoever told you that was probably using something other than pink eraser. There are rubberized abrasives available that may be detrimental to PCBs, but I've used Cratex as well with no issues.

  • @randycarter2001
    @randycarter2001 4 года назад +7

    Here's a tip when trying to measure resistors like you were doing with the volume pot. Learn to hold chopsticks. You can easily connect to both terminals and still hold the component.

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  4 года назад

      That would probalby work pretty good :)

    • @houseofno
      @houseofno 3 года назад

      @@LyonsArcade You can also buy these little stands that have alligator clips on them. That may work better than using chopsticks.

  • @308Savagebolt
    @308Savagebolt 3 года назад +2

    I would have never thought that Dax Shepherd would be referbing vintage arcade games as a side hustle ?!?!?!

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  3 года назад

      Never heard of 'em! Thanks for watching 308Savagebolt!

  • @Doughiemantoo
    @Doughiemantoo 4 года назад +4

    Dropped many a quarter into this at the Skaggs Drugstore on 200 East 400 North Logan Utah. It sat right next to the Qbert to ensure that, no matter your frustrating pleasure, they had you covered.

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  4 года назад

      They loved their cute bright games didn't they, LOL

  • @towhee89
    @towhee89 10 месяцев назад +1

    Joe I love your vids. How'd you get into restoring these machines and how did you learn how to? My dad fixes radios and tube amps so I enjoy this kinda stuff. I was just curious
    Thanks! I don't live too far away from the shop I'm in Morganton NC. Would love to visit

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  10 месяцев назад +1

      Come on by! We bought an arcade game when we were kids from the local arcade, that's how we got started.

    • @towhee89
      @towhee89 10 месяцев назад

      thanks Joe. I was curious if you ever had any electronics training or did you just wing it and teach yourself?@@LyonsArcade

  • @tron3entertainment
    @tron3entertainment 4 года назад +6

    "Bring in the Logic Probe!" - SARK / TRON

    • @draketungsten74
      @draketungsten74 4 года назад +1

      I came here to see this, or say it if someone else hadn't already.

    • @tron3entertainment
      @tron3entertainment 4 года назад +2

      @@draketungsten74 - Given my namesake, isn't better that I said it? 😁

    • @draketungsten74
      @draketungsten74 4 года назад

      @@tron3entertainment Considering my son's namesake, I think I'm covered. 😁

  • @simonsmith2802
    @simonsmith2802 4 года назад +8

    Because I am a fully qualified electronics repairs engineer what I do when you have a burnt out Trace I use sticky copper tape

  • @SteveJones172pilot
    @SteveJones172pilot 4 года назад +3

    Great video.. I had a similar problem on another machine - I think it was a PacMan, where the output of a chip was stuck low, and it turned out to be that it was really the INPUT of the chip it was feeding was stuck low, which wouldn't let the output rise.. The hint in my situation was that because the OUTPUT was being held low, it was causing that chip to sink as much current as it could, so the WORKING chip got really hot, and when I followed that output to the next input and replaced that chip all was well. I hope that makes sense. Great video. Definitely subscribed and will be looking for more of your stuff

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  4 года назад

      Thank you for watching it’s really fun to track these down!

  • @dherman0001
    @dherman0001 3 года назад +2

    Insanely addictive and popular game.

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  3 года назад +1

      Thank you for watching David!

  • @pinhead3030
    @pinhead3030 4 года назад +1

    in one of your video's you not only explained how but also showed us

  • @Giblet535
    @Giblet535 3 года назад +1

    Nice work on that edge connector. The way you did that should outlive the original traces.

  • @troyleong7412
    @troyleong7412 3 года назад +1

    AWESOME FIX!!!!!!! AWESOME GAME!!!!!! It looks and sounds amazing now. YOU DA MAN!!!!!!!!!

  • @jaybird57
    @jaybird57 3 года назад +1

    I had a Space Duel standup... I had to fix the Wells Garner display.... 20 years ago... good times..

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  3 года назад +1

      That was a cool game too! Thanks for watching JayBird...

  • @Scrapy-ih7ob
    @Scrapy-ih7ob 3 года назад +1

    This game , my goodness , when there was no law about sending your 12 year to store get Pop's smoke, Let me tell you , he never got his change, unless it was smoke , loaf bread dinner run I never passed up opportunity play this game. , I put ever quarter I had into the laundry arcade. I was on run one day, got diamond was about break the machine record,. low behold I didn't know I was there for hour. pops came lookin for.(smokes) snatched the bag, loaf bread , said get home now. sorry long story, we all know the 80's rocked. My late pop was awesome, he never got his change normally expected that.

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  3 года назад

      Thank you for your story Scrapy I remember those days! Thanks for watching!

  • @6581punk
    @6581punk 4 года назад +2

    Never seen a Dig Dug machine, I guess not everything makes it way over here in the UK. I really can't understand why people remove chips and don't fit sockets, argh!

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  4 года назад

      Yeah I like being able to see that it's definitely in there right and if one pin isn't connected to it's trace you've got a problem....

    • @6581punk
      @6581punk 4 года назад

      It takes time and care to do a good job. It's not like working on a modern device which you can scrap and replace.

  • @rlgrlg-oh6cc
    @rlgrlg-oh6cc 4 года назад +1

    The one LM324 is set up for a gain of -1. So the two speakers are wired in series between the two amplifier outputs, and through the one wire-wound volume control. When one amplifier output is going positive, the other is going negative.

  • @ArtStoneUS
    @ArtStoneUS 3 года назад +1

    Make the music stop! Please! 😄 The trick to getting points is to drop the rock on the monster while it's frozen because you pumped it up. Multiple monsters with the same rock to score really big. You can part way inflate the monster and then let go, to get all of them together in a big bunch

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  3 года назад

      I've seen that a few times in the attract mode but I just like to play it digging through the ground a little bit :)

  • @atomicskull6405
    @atomicskull6405 2 года назад +1

    With these Namco licensed games did Atari use Namco made boards or did they manufacture the boards for the Us versions themselves?

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  2 года назад

      Atari manufactured pretty much everything in the game, remember they were using the Atari power supply design and they had full production capabilities for the games they designed themselves, like Asteroids, Gauntlet, etc. At the time, The industry was so huge that there were several production facilities needed to supply each market with games, so Namco was making it's own boards overseas and at the exact same time Atari was making it's own boards in America.... The Namco made boards often were very different designs. A game like Dig Dug though had several board revisions as well, they sold a ton of these things.

  • @Bryan-fn3yq
    @Bryan-fn3yq 4 года назад +4

    That’s some great troubleshooting, sir. This game swallowed a lot of my quarters even though I royally sucked at it.

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  4 года назад

      Thanks Bryan! Yeah it's almost damn irresistible with that music.

    • @sideburn
      @sideburn 4 года назад

      The more you suck the more it swallows!

  • @evilash570
    @evilash570 4 года назад +4

    One of the all time great classic games! Nice repair!

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  4 года назад +2

      Thanks EvilAsh570, I don't think you're so evil after all :)

  • @haywoodyoudome
    @haywoodyoudome 3 года назад +1

    5:33 looks like someone took the "quantity over quality" approach to soldering...

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  3 года назад

      It happens :) The good news is you can melt it off :) Thanks for watching haywoodyoudome!

  • @vince_martyn
    @vince_martyn 4 года назад +3

    When you said 11H was running off the 5v rail, it isn't. It's running off the 10v unreg rail and the 5v rail is being used as a nominal mid-rail for the audio. Pins 10 and 12 of that chip go to 5v for that reason as a reference, they are not being loaded. This is an alternative to running the opamp from a split power rail (e.g. +12 and -12v) and in that world, pins 10&12 would be referenced to 0v. So the audio output from 11H will be biased to 5v and swing above and below this in sympathy with the audio signal. Love your videos and channel. Getting a pinball machine of our own soon.

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  4 года назад +3

      Thank you for going into such a detailed explanation about how I don't know what I'm talking about. You missed a few other places I didn't know what I was talking about either.... so if that's your thing, you might want to rewatch so you can spot more errors.

  • @royhandy8365
    @royhandy8365 4 года назад +1

    At 13:25 it looks like the resistor closest to the E is in backwards!
    Sorry. It is my OCD making me make dumb comments. All the other resistors in that row are installed with the tolerance band on the left! Some people just want to watch the world burn, I guess.

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  4 года назад +4

      Roy can you imagine me handing the customer a bill for fixing their resistor that was installed backwards, and then when they asked me why that mattered, I've have to say because it's purty the other way?

  • @rlegato364
    @rlegato364 3 года назад +1

    😁 I spent enough money on that game in my local arcade to pay for the machine! Everyone else's money was pure profit.

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  3 года назад

      They must have loved you, lol Thanks for watching Ron!

  • @moodyga40
    @moodyga40 4 года назад +1

    you may have a dirty volume pot and the LM324 is a buffer amp in that circuit

  • @johncantrell614
    @johncantrell614 3 года назад +2

    Enjoy your videos. I thought that you said in another video that you had no formal schooling in electronics, and that you were self taught. But were there any books on electronics that you used in particular to help you get to the point that you are now?

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  3 года назад +1

      Nope just read over the schematics and eventually started understanding them a little better..... thanks for watching John!

  • @kakurerud7516
    @kakurerud7516 4 года назад +1

    hold button down to pump ; ) one of my all time fave games. got the mini one from wallys tho close its not the same.

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  4 года назад +1

      One of the coolest early 80's games for sure!

  • @michalgajdos7575
    @michalgajdos7575 3 года назад +1

    Nice. I never liked digdug as kid,but nowadays I am very fond of it

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  3 года назад

      It grows on you! Thank you for watching Michal!

  • @JohnDoe-uq3mx
    @JohnDoe-uq3mx 4 года назад +3

    what the heck? atari made dug dug.

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  4 года назад

      This is a good example of the difference between software and hardware.

    • @JohnDoe-uq3mx
      @JohnDoe-uq3mx 4 года назад +1

      not even mention mame

  • @jankro1
    @jankro1 3 года назад +1

    I have successfully used fiberglass brush to clean connector traces.

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  3 года назад

      I've been trying to use it more, somebody sent me one! Thanks for watching Jan!

  • @QunMang
    @QunMang 4 года назад +3

    "Another one rides the bus" Weird Al reference noted. Loved his stuff back in the day.
    The closest I ever got to arcade repair was trying to intern at Great America one year, but I didn't get the internship unfortunately. I did do PCB troubleshooting for awhile though, mostly smaller stuff, before going in an entirely different direction.

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  4 года назад

      Very cool, I've never been to Great America are they still around ? I think that's out west, I used to live in Fresno as a kid.

    • @QunMang
      @QunMang 4 года назад

      @@LyonsArcade North of Chicago- now Six Flags Great America

  • @chrisfreemesser5707
    @chrisfreemesser5707 4 года назад +2

    Back when I worked for a company that made Atari peripherals we used those machine-pin sockets (Augat was the brand we used) instead of the cheaper variety...they just made better connections with the legs on the chips. Great vid...using the logic probe brings back memories of troubleshooting circuits in my college electronics classes so many years ago

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  4 года назад

      Thanks Chris, we appreciate the kind words... it's kind of fun tracking the problem down if it's a clean issue like this one (a minor sound thing, etc.)

  • @christopherrasmussen8718
    @christopherrasmussen8718 4 года назад +4

    I must admit to being one of those techs in antiquity that would dive into those and make them work PDQ (often) with no schematics. I was a bright kid who lived at a Space Port. Owner had a problem one day and boom, I was fixing them for about 5 years. Lots I could (hak) fix. Some I could not. When it got to upper level stuff we call corporate. They send the district tech. He didn’t mind me taking some of the heat off. So the owner let me keep going. I still have a bench and only recently got into SMD with IOS devices. Keeps the old brain sharp. Next to the Space Port was a Radio Shack. They had a mail out repair service. When I pulled a bad radio out of the trash that had come back from repair as unrepairable, and fixed it, the manager started giving me things to fix. So when I went into the Navy as a seasons hak, they gave me microcomputers to fix. Good times. Made a career out of electronics.

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  4 года назад +1

      That's pretty cool Christopher it's funny how stuff comes together like that for people, it's a good skill set to have, saves you lots of money and you can work on about anything!

  • @midnitepagan9118
    @midnitepagan9118 4 года назад +6

    Funny when we were kids of the 80's going to arcades waiting for the next greatest Video game to come to your local haunt. Not once did we revel over the artwork on the cabs. We were more interested on what was on screen.... But now as we grown old, we start to apriciate the work into the art and presentation of the cabs. But also the half the problem was that you would have 10-20 cabs pushed together a row and would never see side artwork anyway.

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  4 года назад +1

      Yeah that's weird how that works like that. I was the same way when I was a kid I don't remember what most of them looked like... maybe I was seeing the sideart as a subconscious thing though and it made me spend more money... like you said though, people come in our shop all the time, they want games in mint condition, I've tried to tell them they were never in mint condition but they want to live the illusion :)

  • @ShainAndrews
    @ShainAndrews 4 года назад +1

    Sir... your game play triggered me back to my ten year old self watching my younger sister play. LOL

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  4 года назад

      Her and I still think It's strange after all these years that you feel like you're better at having fun.

    • @ShainAndrews
      @ShainAndrews 4 года назад

      @@LyonsArcade LOL. Well played sir... well played. Thanks for taking the time to post your work.

  • @melanatedprose9134
    @melanatedprose9134 4 года назад +1

    Galaga used to be my top 80's arcade game but Dig-Dug has overtaken it. I have both on the Gameboy advance sp. They play like the arcade games and I like a portable hand-held to boot. You're a talented man, how long have you been repairing and restoring these old pinball and arcade games? It's personal info but I do wonder if this had been a private sell(like for a mancave) would the cost have been in the $2500-$5000 k range? Excellent video!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  4 года назад +1

      Thank you for watching, all of our games we put up for sale on our website at www.LyonsArcade.com , this particular one was $1499 when we were finished with it. We've been repairing them for about 15 years now but for 10 years or so before that we owned a few that we lightly 'messed' with but no major repairs. Thank you for the kind words, we appreciate it and will see you on the next video!

    • @melanatedprose9134
      @melanatedprose9134 4 года назад

      @@LyonsArcade Thanks for the info and you're welcome.

  • @stavivanackerson6563
    @stavivanackerson6563 4 года назад +1

    I don't know if you remember but back about a month ago I was watching you guy's fix an Incredible tech's SILVER STRIKE and I mentioned I was working on a home brewed arcade system myself... well here is the latest progress ruclips.net/video/AHSTIkZLX0c/видео.html

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  4 года назад +1

      Man that's pretty amazing, I like the 3d way it can fire into the asteroids.....

    • @stavivanackerson6563
      @stavivanackerson6563 4 года назад

      @@LyonsArcade thanks I been busting my butt on this one... 3 position firing .... Think I will use the gorf style flight stick and 3 cannon position buttons on control panel plus player start...

  • @80sretrogamergamingarchive90
    @80sretrogamergamingarchive90 4 года назад +1

    Screaming noises bad sound always = shite capacitor

  • @lascheque
    @lascheque 4 года назад +2

    No microfarad :(

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  4 года назад

      I'm onto a whole new thing now :)

  • @steeveedee8478
    @steeveedee8478 4 года назад +2

    Dig Dug or Mr. Do? Personally I'm a Mr. Do guy!

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  4 года назад +1

      I much prefer Dig Dug :)

    • @steeveedee8478
      @steeveedee8478 4 года назад +1

      @@LyonsArcade Fightin' talk!!! :) Still if my wife let me I'd get both and a few others like Battlezone and Galaxian.

    • @Doman2000
      @Doman2000 4 года назад +1

      Of course it is Mr Do! , much more interesting deeper game play.

  • @billwilliams6338
    @billwilliams6338 4 года назад +2

    JOE'S CLASSIC VIDEO GAME, any reasons why arcade games use a rheostat instead of a potentiometer? and why is the rheostat 10watts to 50watts depending on the arcade games amplifier?

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  4 года назад

      They're the same a Rheostat is just made differently so when it needs a lot of wattage sometimes the Rheostat is cheaper to purchase than a potentiometer. The reason it needs to be more wattage is because where it's placed in this design is after the music has been amplified.

    • @billwilliams6338
      @billwilliams6338 4 года назад +1

      @@LyonsArcade do you know why they would want to place the music volume after the music has been amplified because you would need to use a high wattage rheostat instead of using a normal low wattage potentiometer?
      I don't see the advantage but I think I have read because they had to run the harness wires all the way up to the front of the arcade enclosure which picked up to much noise.

    • @vk3hau
      @vk3hau 4 года назад

      bill williams
      becouse if you control the volume with the preamp you can induce noise artefacts and static before the amp, controlling volume after amplification limits hum and noise artefacts been induced . think of it this way, you turn the volume right down on the control before the preamp, but noise artefacts level will still be at the some volume level. where as, if you bring the game sounds above the noise artefacts level at preamp stage, then amplify the games sounds, and then control with the " volume control after amp " which is above the noise artefacts level you will less likely here any noise Artefacts.

    • @billwilliams6338
      @billwilliams6338 4 года назад

      @@vk3hau but where are the noise artifacts coming from if you used the volume control BEFORE the preamp? they can just use "shielded" wire to run the volume control to the front of the arcade cabinet. The Shielded wire will shield out the noises

    • @vk3hau
      @vk3hau 4 года назад

      bill williams
      No, just No... it doesn't work that way, way more effective to reduce the SNR on the preAmp and Control the volume at the Amp.

  • @douro20
    @douro20 2 года назад

    Do I see two 51xx chips on there? Those are microcontrollers from what I understand, and they handle the I/O. JROK makes a replacement which uses an ATmega chip.
    The closest equivalent to that rheostat currently being made is the Ohmite RES50RE which costs US$56 and has a standard lead time of 23 weeks if they aren't available immediately.

  • @badmeatbrowniesthoughts1327
    @badmeatbrowniesthoughts1327 3 года назад +1

    YESSSSSS!!!!!!
    I pumped 100s of dollars into that game at the beach arcades when I was a kid..
    Frikin nostalgia bubbling..😆 🤣.
    Nice one Joe!! 👏

    • @badmeatbrowniesthoughts1327
      @badmeatbrowniesthoughts1327 3 года назад +1

      If you told me when I was 14 that I'd be more interested in the schematics of the machine when I was 50+ .........lol 😆
      Frikin love it!! Such relaxing content 😌

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  3 года назад +1

      Thank you for watching, glad you enjoyed it!!!

  • @Discretesignals
    @Discretesignals 4 года назад +2

    Great video! Is it possible to add lighting when your inside the cabinet? The picture is dark and hard to see what your pointing at.

  • @sherry-ml7zw
    @sherry-ml7zw 4 года назад +1

    wish we had a arcade back in baton rouge again great video.....

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  4 года назад

      They have opened some bars that have all the old games in them, but it's not the same....

  • @KMKTO
    @KMKTO 3 года назад +1

    Have you’ve ever seen a tron arcade cabinet. If so do you have any videos I could possibly watch you have made on the arcade tron?
    Also I subscribed to your channel because it shows me some basics of how arcade machines function.

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  3 года назад

      AJ Thank you for subscribing! We have had several Tron machines but I haven't had one in a while, if I get one in I will film it for you.... we weren't making videos the last time I had one in!

    • @KMKTO
      @KMKTO 3 года назад

      @@LyonsArcade Thanks for everything I think your one of the best arcade RUclipsrs I’ve ever seen

  • @a.fritzbecker8986
    @a.fritzbecker8986 4 года назад +1

    Nothing says quality workmanship like seeing 1/2 dozen wire nuts splicing a wiring harness together, along with tack soldering.

    • @a.fritzbecker8986
      @a.fritzbecker8986 4 года назад +1

      Also the "thing" that moves around on the rheostat, that is connected to the center terminal, is normally called a "wiper', you were probably just tongue tied or had a mental block and knew that anyhow. It's sort of weird to use a linear wire wound rheostat as a volume control, but I guess they needed the wattage in that circuit, too bad they didn't have a screwdriver slot cut into the end of the shaft. The original rheostat looks like it must have been 5-10 Watts, the little carbon pot is maybe 1/2 Watt, and had no business being there.

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  4 года назад

      They did have it up and running, though :)

  • @charlesmurphy1510
    @charlesmurphy1510 4 года назад +2

    If you cut a shallow notch where you wrap the trace then the tape won’t move around. Or just use contact cement.

  • @michaelnippert945
    @michaelnippert945 4 года назад +2

    I remember playing that when it was new I would 24 brought back a lot of memories

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  4 года назад +1

      It's a really great game, very well designed down to even the music and sound effects. I used to play it on the Atari 5200 all the time back then....

  • @stephenlongsmovieandvideog9283
    @stephenlongsmovieandvideog9283 4 года назад +1

    Is the monitor on the dig dug a Matsushita or a GO7

  • @pezjohnson
    @pezjohnson 4 года назад +2

    Nice work. Something I found out on Dig Dug (maybe another on of your videos?), you don't have to tap the pump button, you can just hold it. Works the same.

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  4 года назад

      So you're saying, I can press it each time, too then?

    • @DeviatingVapors
      @DeviatingVapors 2 года назад

      might have a built in repeat rate value, (like Tempest) but in this game pump recycle times are crucial to survival... owned a decent cocktail version of this, but never got very good at it. always kicks my ass - as it was designed to do. still addictive. still on my build list as I need an upright version, control panel parts in storage.

  • @videolabguy
    @videolabguy 4 года назад +1

    13:25 - Machined pin sockets are the ONLY kind I will use in all of my electronics. The stamped pin sockets are just as crappy as the Molex edge connectors, just like the one you had to rebuild at the beginning. With the stamped pin sockets, over time with temperature cycling, the chips literally climb up and fall out of the sockets. I call those, designed in breakdowns.

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  4 года назад

      I have seen a ton of games where the roms have raised up out of the sockets, you're absolutely right!

  • @hyumahoshi
    @hyumahoshi 4 года назад +1

    Can't stop laughing here: ruclips.net/video/oRwPvlVoMRU/видео.html when you make that "scared noise" hahahahahaha

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  4 года назад

      It was very frightening :)

    • @hyumahoshi
      @hyumahoshi 4 года назад +1

      @@LyonsArcade that solder makes goosebumps

  • @TheKurtsPlaceChannel
    @TheKurtsPlaceChannel Год назад

    Very nicely put together video and very entertaining as well. Thanks for posting this.

  • @sherry-ml7zw
    @sherry-ml7zw 4 года назад +1

    love tht game i play tht on play station classics

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  4 года назад

      Those Playstation Classic disks were awesome!

  • @MorganatorOne
    @MorganatorOne Год назад

    Did Dug was the first game I bought for myself on my Intellivision. I used my Christmas money and in January of 1986 I paid $38.00 at KB Toys...

  • @aleksandrbmelnikov
    @aleksandrbmelnikov Год назад

    They couldn't have installed a Molex power connector on the board? Maybe pin it to match AT standard (12/+5/-5), just in case someone later pokes wrong plug in it.

  • @arthureverett8220
    @arthureverett8220 2 года назад

    The jamma connectors always overheated and burned on the 5 volt line to the logic board. We used to rebuild the jamma connectors. I worked for AMERICAN Amusement and Vending Corp out of Bay City MI. for 4 years. I did both bench work and field repair I was their monitor expert being a tv service tech prior to working in the coin op industry. Juke boxes were my favorite things to work on. The Rowe cd jukeboxes had problems with their early CD player units. We replaced the upgraded version CD players and never had trouble afterwards

  • @lee2217
    @lee2217 4 года назад +1

    Another class
    Please Keep them coming

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  4 года назад +1

      Thanks Lee! More coming soon.

  • @arthureverett8220
    @arthureverett8220 2 года назад

    My company always sent me to Randy Fromm seminars in Chicago. (Randy Fromm Arcade School). I learned many troubleshooting skills on jukeboxes and pinball games. He went into great detail on newer power supplies that incorporate pulse width modulation

  • @sheadjohn
    @sheadjohn 2 месяца назад

    if you want comment on your pin header? Does the chip have round pins, that looks like a round pin , pin header and not a flat pin, pin header.

  • @ItsaRomethingeveryday
    @ItsaRomethingeveryday 4 года назад +1

    Always liked this game, could get quite far in it

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  4 года назад +1

      It's pretty fun, I can't get very far though bro

    • @ItsaRomethingeveryday
      @ItsaRomethingeveryday 4 года назад

      @@LyonsArcade same, them ghost are just a little too quick for me, with the speed up mod, I can usually get a little further tho

  • @SomeCanine
    @SomeCanine Месяц назад

    Who doesn't love digdug? It's still fun even after like 40 years.

  • @53447lee
    @53447lee 4 года назад +1

    Bigclive is that you?😂😂😂

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  4 года назад

      I heard that guy was ripping me off :)

  • @robinbrowne5419
    @robinbrowne5419 3 года назад +1

    (27:53) Lol. He did quantum tunneling right through the wall :-)

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  3 года назад +1

      Is that that damn Elon Musk again???!!!????? it was 1982!!!!

    • @robinbrowne5419
      @robinbrowne5419 3 года назад

      @@LyonsArcade It's that pesky Schrödinger and his cat :-)

  • @musclesmouse
    @musclesmouse 3 года назад

    I thought it was the PoKey. No wonder the sounds for my Atari 8 bit computer has 2 versions of Dig Dug and it sounds just like the arcade.

  • @antonnym214
    @antonnym214 4 года назад +2

    Great game with a very nice investigation. I enjoyed your explanation of the rheostat. All good wishes!

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  4 года назад +1

      Thanks Anton, we appreciate you watching!

  • @DeviatingVapors
    @DeviatingVapors 2 года назад

    thanks for going thru the schematics and such.
    a few tips for this game maybe only found in the operating manual - more points are gained by the color coded dirt, as well as how many enemies can be squished in the same column with a single rock.
    pumping vertical or horizontal changes the point structure of popping them (my friend will start in one direction, then maneuver to the other to pop them).
    so of course he kicks my ass at this game, and has incredible reflexes on the pump button.
    the bonus fruit only comes when ... there are two or more enemies. enough rocks have to be dropped before it will appear tho. when there is only one left, then it exits to the top left corner.
    never considered staying at the top.
    wonder if I could last longer at the higher levels longer...

  • @Astinsan
    @Astinsan 2 года назад

    All these old arcades were designed to last a couple years.. pinball machines too..
    Ironically the via you are hacking to make work was probably the reason the edge connector burned up …

  • @pizzalicker4576
    @pizzalicker4576 4 года назад +1

    good on you for saving the past.

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  4 года назад

      Thanks for watching Pizza Licker!

  • @aleksandrbmelnikov
    @aleksandrbmelnikov Год назад

    Hissss, new pins too bright for Sméagol eyes. Must look away.

  • @inerlogic
    @inerlogic 3 года назад +1

    I love that the Z80 from 1982 is still humming along.... I build retro style computers with Z80s and RCA1802s

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  3 года назад

      Those Z80's are workhorses :)

  • @hellacia8151
    @hellacia8151 Год назад

    Quick question... did the Namco cabinet keep the same cabinet for Japan?

  • @MarkMcDaniel
    @MarkMcDaniel 3 года назад +1

    My favorite arcade as a kid.

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  3 года назад +1

      Thank you for watching Mark!

  • @houseofno
    @houseofno 3 года назад +1

    That game sounds way happier than when it started. If I were Dig Dug, I think I'd be kicking that bicycle pump to the curb and carry a 100 psi air compressor around. LOL! Great job fixing the game!

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  3 года назад +1

      You'd think they'd make a modern version with that :) Thanks for watching Brian!

  • @KabukeeJo
    @KabukeeJo 4 года назад +1

    Was it someone there at the shop who put that 296890 High Score or was that DigDug modified to retain high scores with the power off?

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  4 года назад

      It wasn't done at THIS shop, but somebody did it :) Dig Dug saves some of the high scores after it's turned off.

  • @hillbrothersarcade7630
    @hillbrothersarcade7630 4 года назад +1

    My first Arcade Cabinet ever was DIG DUG that I purchased from Lyon's Arcade! (Which of course I still have) You guys Rock!

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  4 года назад +1

      It's such a great game :) Glad to hear you're holding onto it :)

  • @Codeaholic1
    @Codeaholic1 4 года назад +1

    Those pesky furry ducks!

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  4 года назад

      Luckily I had my bicycle pump

  • @Aaronsplaylist1973
    @Aaronsplaylist1973 3 года назад

    Where do you get the arcade games to repair. It might be something I'd like to give a try.

  • @AiMR
    @AiMR 4 года назад +1

    Nice troubleshooting Joe!

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  4 года назад +1

      Thanks Eric, we appreciate you watching!

  • @じゆん参
    @じゆん参 4 года назад +2

    ナムコのDigDugですね

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  4 года назад +1

      あそこはナムコ、ここはアタリだった!

    • @じゆん参
      @じゆん参 4 года назад +1

      そうです ナムコの開発者は 全員若いんですよ、歳越えると外れます、( ;∀;)

  • @aleksandrbmelnikov
    @aleksandrbmelnikov Год назад

    UV epoxy new copper clad fingers to PCB.

  • @justjoe942
    @justjoe942 3 года назад +1

    Thanks, dude; I never tire of this. Plus, I'm picking up basic electronics and understand a great deal more than I did before.

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  3 года назад

      Very cool man, glad you enjoyed it!!!

  • @geeman6938
    @geeman6938 2 года назад

    Do you sell arcade machines? I would like to open an arcade and I need machines.

  • @edptrs9040
    @edptrs9040 4 года назад +1

    Like your board repair videos. I'm an old pinball guy so never played video archade games, but the board repair is largely the same so I watch the video archade repair too!

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  4 года назад

      Thanks Ed, we appreciate having you along for the ride!

  • @marksnexus
    @marksnexus 2 года назад +1

    You are amazing Joe! I have learned so much from your videos and as an electronic tech this means a lot. Nothing like these old school machines! Watching your videos is very inspiring. Thank you 🔥💯

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  2 года назад

      Thank you Captain Howdy, glad you enjoy them!!!

  • @WinrichNaujoks
    @WinrichNaujoks 4 года назад +1

    New camera/phone pleeeeeease! Come on this is 2020!

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  4 года назад +1

      That IS a new camera man, LOL If you don't like the resolution you're going to have to watch somebody else, sorry. I don't chase tech it doesn't interest me at all.

    • @WinrichNaujoks
      @WinrichNaujoks 4 года назад +1

      @@LyonsArcade You wouldn't be doing it for yourself, but us, your subscribers! Your content is great, but it's just frustrating if you can't see anything because the resolution is too low, it's too dark, or the camera is slow to focus.

  • @williegillie5712
    @williegillie5712 4 года назад +1

    One of my favs that dig dug

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  4 года назад

      It's pretty good. We sold one to a guy from Poland last week, and he said "This is my Fantastic!"

  • @kh40yr
    @kh40yr 4 года назад +1

    I miss this game. My god. Untold fortunes put thru the one in town back in the day. All I had,,right into the machine. The good old days. Nice work Joe.

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  4 года назад

      Thanks for watching, it's fun to bring these back to life :)

  • @Thrashin_Victim
    @Thrashin_Victim 4 года назад +1

    I always wondered what the percentage of those do you get that have cigarette burns on the control panel? I remember a lot of times as a kid seeing burn marks on arcade machines in bowling alleys and arcades. How do you fix that, just print out a replacement skin?

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  4 года назад

      Some games seem worse than others but yup we get about 30-40% of them have cigarette burns. If they're really bad we put a new overlay on them, if they're not that bad sometimes you can just replace the button. This particular one was in very nice shape and didn't have any burns on it.

  • @mookie714
    @mookie714 4 года назад +1

    thank you, almighty algorithm, for gifting me with this channel. subscribe button: smashed.

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  4 года назад

      Glad you found us Mookie! Don't say anything to anger the Algorithm, they might bury us!