PC Gamers asking Nvidia how is this possible
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With so much framegen that youre gonna feel the smoothest lag in your life
😂😂😂 i know right
3 times the lag
Nah it won't be that price.
@@Noname304y2u2 its official bro, they announced it.
@@ronniecantiga5629who cares u dont play with dlss on online games and in AAA games even with dlss there is no difference. They also reduced the input lag
''How?'''
''With extra fake frame rates.''
YEEEEESSS... They compare them by turning on the upscaling technology 💀
Ok, and? I don't care frames is frames
@@Echobolt01it creates extra input lag defeating the whole point of high fps
@@Echobolt01 silence is a great source of strength
Reflex 2 is a thing buddy@@dwaynethemineraljohnson412
Raw performance ❌
Fake AI frames ✔️
@MegaGamer-w1u lol
If the “fake ai frames” are what allow me to run good numbers at an affordable price then so be it
@@YaBoyEvhave you tried 4000 series framegen? Input lag is for me just awful and it makes the most games that i tested unplayble. Now imagine extra 3 fake frames..
It doesnt matter bro , its performence only amd fan boys care about raw performence
@@mironstefan947nvidia is literally lying to you LOL
in 2-3 yrs, the 8050 will have an AI so strong it will generate the whole GTA6 experience before rockstar releases it
My brain says no, but my gut knows it's true.
"Rtx 5070 with rtx 4090 proformance for $549" press X to doubt
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X
X
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... On AI workloads
This is it boys.
This is the death of pure hardware performence uplift.
@@muhtasimfuadbadhon7743 reminds me of horses to cars. Mail to emails
😅😂😂😂😂
Indeed
@@muhtasimfuadbadhon7743 now nvidia talking about
1000 ai tops
As a gamer i don't even know what the hell is that and what r the real time use case of that shit
@@amritcomputerworldthe dlss will render 0.1 ms faster😂😂😂 idk this whole ai bs is going way too far
Well it's gonna be priced $849 in my country, i guess the dealers activated dlss in prices
Gold tier comment
AMD is an option + Wait 6 months for price drops
😅😂😂😂😂😂
@@mrcheezcat so true
@@mrcheezcat i have to wait for 9070 xt
Nivida not making devs lazy by fake fps challenge: impossible
To be fair it's not their fault. Dlss is supposed to help in case games get even more performance heavy so that users arnt completely left behind in spec requirements. It is a real solution for a real problem. Issue is devs are now useing this feature as a band-aid fix to not optimizing their games. Dlss can 100% be helpful as long as devs don't use it as a crutch
Hah lazy... they spent too much time on detail they always forget to optimise
@@devynmiller3495why exactly is it only available for the newest cards then? Then ones that only need it to cope with lazy optimization.
@@devynmiller3495and thats why its locked to the newest gen
no bro devs nowadays only care about money most games now are terrible because they rush and gave us unfinished product, they can't wait to make money sad
It's not 4090 performance, it's 40-90 fps (90 with upscaling+framegen)
Yup
I think you have a typo.
It's 15fps + 25fps of dlss making it 40fps then frame gen to get it around 80fps. Idk if it would reach 90 tbh.
But this is probably with a game at absolutely max graphics settings with full ray tracing enabled.
@@luislebronaponte2737 🥹
@@luislebronaponte2737 at that point prices should be the least of your worries
still, it will outperform 4090
Did I fall into a coma for 8 years? Because I swear the 4000s series was around for like a year...
I mean it came out at the end of 2022 and this came out right at the beginning of 2025 so you had like 2 solid years to enjoy it
It's because 4000s were refreshed not long ago with super series.
It's because you couldn't actually buy a 4090 until 1 year after release unless you want to pay a scalper $4000. The same thing will happen with the 50 series.
Honestly.. If.. IF.. *IF* the 5070 actually performs identically to the 4090 through any method, it’ll still be a miserably constrained card because of the VRAM and bus. That’s my take on this.
They are gonna AI the vram too now
@@zetahalo
So, basically.. we’re fucked.
Seriously though, the 5070 Ti seems to have the “best” p/p from the 50 series imo. We’ll see what the benchmarks are like for each card soon. And, to be honest, I thought that Nvidia would price these cards much higher, so I’m still surprised by these prices. Not fantastic, but not terrible.
boycott nvidia, embrace intel
Intel has cpu issues, they had arc gpu driver issues too which are solved but they have new battlemage issue, b580 performs well only with high end cpu. Nvidia only has product development strategy issue eg: low vram and ok ok pricing. I won't disrespect pricing because they need to earn too. @@aro4322
@@zetahaloFramegen feels more overused now
It's not just fake frames anymore, it's fake textures too.
Raw GPU power no longer exists.
Bro☠️ so what yall crying cuz AMD and Intel got cooked bro so what it’ll be smoother than all AMD and Intel cards even if they do fake it what’s the difference I mean also are we not gonna talk about AMD FSR?!
Fake textures are a pretty good idea.
Yup, it's actually joever for new cards
Sticking with my 0.9V Vega 64 until the undervolt can no longer keep it alive
We found the 12 year old that will get mommy to buy him a scalped 5090 @@iicy-FN
@@iicy-FNAMD FSR, the software provided by AMD for all GPUs, even old and NVIDIA ones, for free. What do want to talk about? How it is the proper way to do things in contrast to locking it only to your own newest gen cards like NVIDIA does?
Can’t wait for 2027 when the RTX 6070 got the same power like the RTX 5090
Then it’s finally time to buy a RTX 3060
Haha, i would say 4070
Bro 3060 its like buying a GT610 now what's the point.
Un less you need that extra VGA port lol
BaTtLeMaGe RuInEd My LiFe
Dont be fooled guys, in the charts it says its only equivalent to a 4090 if it uses dlss 4.0. In other words fake frames
Who gives a fuck about fake frames or not? Game have to run smooth and look good. How they do that Nobody cares
Fake fps dont improve input lag like real fps does, but it even makes the input lag worse @@DrBalde
@@DrBaldebecause 1 not every game has it and 2 because it creates extra input lag making the "high" fps feel worse than the lower fps you get with native rendering or just upscaling
Oh yes a better input lag ist worth it to pay 1000 dollars more 💸💸💸
Would it be worth the upgrade from my 3070?
Here's how: a metric fuckton of frame gen, only 12gb vram, cheaper build quality and a healthy sprinkle of lies.
Whats exactly bad about frame generation?
Something shiney for the monkeys 🤌🏻
@@Forgottenace9latency and artifacts
@@janisir4529 artifacts isnt a thing even on a 3.5 and probably wont be a thing on 4.0 as well, and for latency it is insignificant unless youre comp gamer, but comp games are often much less demanding
@@Forgottenace9 I didn't have a lot of on hand testing with frame gen, but the 5 minutes I did use it, I was not sold.
Also I do want a 100+fps even in single player games generally.
3080 here my patience has been rewarded
Vega 8 here
Nvidia 256 here 💀💀
6650 XT
@@obeliskphaetonvega 11 here
Intel HD graphics here
Dont fall for this, its the same as when nvidia said that the 3070 is faster than the 2080ti, the 4090 has 2x the rasterisation performance
They said it is equal to a 2080ti and that's one instance where it was true minus the limited vram.
But yes, this is a bs 4090 claim
Often rtx3070 is faster and it was last card worth getting from cheap used market if someone does not play shity new games with RT, but want to mod old DLSS to new one. You can even add DLSS to every game which is made on the engine of RE remakes.
"Didn't you want games to look like movies? Well now all games are movie files generated by AI, AREN'T YOU ENTERTAINED??"
rtx 5090 literally runs cyberpunk at 20 fps LMAO
with Path Tracing And Ray Tracing. But I am not happy about Its Raw Performance.
Nvidia: "Look will you just stop asking questions and give me your money already!"
wait until pc gamers finds out nvidia spends like 300$ on their 4090(including production costs, materials, marketing-which is basically nonexistant since they are part of a duopoly with amd anyway-, logistics, etc...)
buying a gpu now is like paying for a trip but it's simulated through VR
I'll answer you how... All unsold 4090 are painted into 5070.
Wow I didn't know that my 4070 super had just a bit less performance than a 4090
Are they just reinventing those old TV with the super fluid picture mode lol😂
Next nvidia rtx 6000 generation there wont even be cards to sell, it will all be ai frame generation software to download for msrp price starting at 699 usd
Lol! '4k support available via additional subscription.'
It’s not too late to delete this before nvidia sees it.
@@acev3521 xD
listen bro, if you're upscaling and adding fake frames to something like 30 to 40 fps, the input latency will make it feel like the smoothest 1 second delay you'll ever experience
rtx 5090 will get you 25 fps on max settings in Cyberpunk 2077
nah like 40+ fps with dlss 4.0 200-250
Bruh u are saying on path tracing 4k max quality it's giving pure raw performance that is 25-27 fps 😂
Otherwise it's 240+ fps with dlss4 and fake frames lol 😂
3080 ti cyberpunk 4k, max settings -> 60fps
what are you talking about?
@@mikki9092 I know bruh he thought it's Ray tracing but it was path tracing 🤣
@@mikki9092 I know bruh he thought it's Ray tracing but it was path tracing 🤣
How they gonna charge $550 for a 12GB GPU should be the real question.
The only person here thinking clearly. Got B580 levels of vram for over 2x price
4K gaming with 12gb vram🤡🤡🤡
Indiana jones already uses 12 gb on 1080p
@@ariyasf5130Because it requires RTX mandatory to run the game, and it takes 2 or 3GB of VRAM 😂
@@whoami8937 welcome to the future, old man
Performance ❌
Blurred frames that look terrible ✅
Few channels on RUclips already debunked it. Basically its about 33% faster then RTX 4070 and the numbers you see is because of its upscaling program activated VS not activated for RTX 4090.
“How is it better than the 4090?!”
“HOW?!”
“I don’t know”
Intel scaring them with their new cards.
Waiting for intel's version of 4090 for 1/3 the price 🤣
Just like how rtx 4070 super was able to outperform the previous gen rtx 3090 ti😏
yep but now 3090ti is better than 4070super with fs3 framegeneration and dlss 3 upscaling with nvidia refelx , i think the past will repeat again wait for 3-4 months
yep with the new dlss and new gen rtx,reflex and etc..
Exactly just nvidia things
it is with frame gen. Easy 20-30% more fps than any 30 card
@@hyperninja_-zwhy is reflex there, that's actually a good and free software solution, even for older cards.
Just look at the graphs they showed, and you see they post selected games with DLSS3\4 ... and then claim the card is as fast as 4090 ... but then you see the other graphs when they show real performance and you just lulz how they lie
5070 has 12gb VRAM, 4090 has 24gb. This is NOT a 4090
It is the same as a 4090. When it generates DLSS4 frames using AI, something that the 4090 is quite shitty at doing... It's gonna be something like that.
@Adreno23421 yeah I never use framegen😂 latency is crazy bas in online games
OK and? Look at 4070 ti vs 3090 benchmarks and then come back
@@Adreno23421 DLSS and frame gen use even more VRAM, I have a 4080 and it sits between 12gb and 14gb on cyberpunk PT
1) it's going to be gddr7 memory
2) vram isn't everything
And some clowns will say 5070 is faster then 4090 what next here is marker and right down the fps which make you happy and latency will. Be like 1000ms for 1000FPS 😂😂😂
*With DLSS
*With Frame Generation
...
*Performance may not be same as 4090
seems like intel was two steps ahead this time,by cornering the low budget market it has totally destroyed nvidia pricing strategy of charging customers 1999 and 1599 and 4090 at 1399
MSRP $549
Scalpers : My time has come...
Actual market price $899
True 16gb vram for 1440p and its cost its 879 euro in germany for 4070ti thanks trump and also currency change
Trump isn't president yet.@kleddo3126
Lets also keep in mind those a.i. frame rates are also only subject to particular games only.
They're saying the 5090 will be 2x the performance of 4090 but it will cost a CRAZY amount. I def want that 5070/5080 though, much more reasonably priced.
Reasonably priced? Scalpers already licking their lips as soon as it goes on sale. Good luck
Just make sure you don't buy a cut down 5080, like Nvidia tried with the current generation.
showing 24 fps raw performance up-scaled with dlss to 240 fps claiming that 5070>4090 🤡
Holy sht i swear ignorant people like you always find a way to complain about a company just because its a trend to do so. Why would you care how frames are produced? Why cant we use ai if it works?
@@Forgottenace9Simply because i don't want anybody with black leather jacket to insult my intelligence, if you are a fanboy, have your father's money to buy it and have no problem with fake frames, just do it and don't bark at me.
4090 users 💀
What’s your opinion on it?
wait amd will come with similar technology like using fs3 frame generation with dlss 3 on 30 series and 20sires rtx wait for 3-4months.
i currenty have 4090 im planning to upgrade to 5090 but my worst fere is if amd comes with similar tech then all the money i spent on 5090 will be 40-50 performance for same amount of money uplift
@ generally, I don’t think 5090 is really worth it, as it’s more of a professional and high end work load environment
It’s more likely to be avoided, since rtx 4090 is perfect enough for 1440p and 4k and I don’t think 5090 may likely have a much a demand.
I will buy a 4090 once the price drops. Thats my opinion
@ uh you could buy 5070 for half that price.
@@Twixks if u really believe the rtx 5070 has the same performance like the 4090 then go for it lmao
People may not like dlss and fsr, but atleast its a good technology to bring down prices of graphics card while having them perform like last gen, expensive ones.
It’s not fake ai frames it’s new tech that’s cheaper to make
It is with frame gen not every frame is equal in quality and multi frames will only make that more noticable + you got a fuck ton of extra input lag
I call Nvidia BS.
I know Master Sifu.
"It's more AI dogshit"
It’s so funny that frames per frames per second is technically a real metric now
"don't trust leatherman"
-Wisdom dog
At what point does kernel level anticheat ban you because 98% of your game is AI
Fake frames that's how
the 6090 is gonna be an AI prompt field and shits gonna play like ai minecraft
The price of the 4090 was always overcharged. When Intel came out with Arc B580, they knew they could F around anymore
"Pay no attention to the frame behind the curtain..." 🧙♂️
Here is a hot take frames are frames i dont care if they are real or not as long as they look the same ill take it
Just imagine all the frames yourself for unlimited fps!
Good take i think the same
@@tarongg9057input lag disagrees
It dont feels the same, and that matters the most
This is like when they announced the 3070. Only for the 40 series to prove how inefficient the 30 series was with power.
Tbh i dont get the hate for Ai upscaling technology.
Like bro who cares, u get more Performance and thats what should matter...
DLSS upscaling is more or less universally loved, beyond some complaints that developers rely on it too much.
For 1080p I'd only use DLAA, upscaling to that is too blurry, but for 4k it's hard to tell the difference with quality preset.
The frame generation adds latency, so that's not a straight upgrade.
Well, frame gen it's not real performance and it encourages developers to use ai upscaling, to cover up for a lack of optimization in some games.
This also encourages more focus on graphics, which has a higher performance, time drain, and demand.
This also encourages devs. to depend on AI upscaling, which in turns encourages Nvidia to continue to focus on it.
I would say Intel played a role in this pricing.
We know it’s not true and you just be a clown
i think they said the same thing for 4070 and all we got was frame generation. some fake fps
@ Indeed they said twice 3090 same shit again and if you look at specs it’s quite not possible. These accounts are gonna post “wow” they did memes now and once it’s not real they will post nvidia lied memes. Clown with content farming.
At this point I don't think they want to upgrade a GPU, they are just developing upscaling technologies for better frame rates
549$ price tag 1100W individual power consumption
3 extra generated frames for each "real one"
I guess we all have to thank NVIDIA for this sacrifice. Thank you NVIDIA you're my favourite GPU brand.
it is DLSS 4
It should have been cheap all along. Intel's budget GPU forced them to go that low. The 5090 has no competitor so it's almost four times the price 😬
Frame gen or not, $549 for the 5070 isn’t actually bad
See this is why we can't have good things, settling for less and less. Don't buy that shit
I’m planning on building new PCs for me and my son in about 2 years. If the 70 series cards hold this kind of performance that’s all a future 13 year old will ever need.
Tom Hardy once said: "Thats bait ... thats clearly bait!"
When the time comes everyone is gonna find out how $550 suddenly became $5500
"there are NO FRAMES! You just have to believe it!" Err... I don't think that's gonna fly NVIDIA...
I just hope the fake frames don't remove the character we are playing to improve performance
The electric car versions of graphics cards are here
Imagine the game lagging but it keeps creating new frames until the videos goes weird like those ai generated video
Ultra performance dlss and frame gen matches the 4090 native. Keep in mind though dlss and frame gen costs vram to run.
But it is funny that no one points to the fact that in the graphs are two games (Far Cry 6 and another game) which probably do not have DLSS option and there is performance gain max 10-20 % according to the graph.
5090 couldn’t even run Minecraft 2 at medium settings on 2028 💀🤣
scalpers and miners are gonna love 5000 series
Every video I see talking about this makes me feel like I've been teleported back in time watching people beef about Android versus iphone, it would be hilarious if it wasn't pathetically sad.
When something seems too good to be true, it is too good to be true.
This ain't like the 3070 vs 2080Ti situation
"CEO Math"
I definitely have mixed feelings about it. On one end locking essentially a software upgrade behind a hardware paywall without a real hardware upgrade is stupid as hell, at the same time I think the AI frame generation from DLSS4 is impressive and looks better than people are giving it credit for.
Back to the 1000 series sensible pricing. This year is the right time to upgrade I guess
4090 DLSS performance lel, the glory days of the jump that gave us the rtx 3000 series and amd 6000 series gpus is over, we have to wait for the next leap now
The absolute state of this industry when $550 is a "reasonable" mid-range price
All 4000 series users are mad. Time to replace my beloved 2080.
Not really. I will actually buy a 4090 once they release the 50 series
@@mxalltheway haha. good luck. cuz the 4090 will still be 2k XD
@seynpurrp neither u or me can be certain about the prices in the future, if your claim turns out to be true, I wont do it obviously. The prices gonna drop 100%, only question is when.
@@mxalltheway Not really, GPU don't drop that easily, and time=money obviously, if you wait 10 years you can buy it used at $300. PC gaming isn't a niche anymore, and there is a lot of crypto farmers too. I bought my 2080 600€ 6 years sooner, and now you can find it at 250-300 used so only a 50% drop price for 6 YEARS... Plus 4090 is rare, premium and very powerful. You can do whatever you want, but for the price, go for a 5080ti, much better.
Those fools even cheered and applauded to him for lying so obviously 🙄
Dlss 4.0 in the performing game set ro frame generation maximum and making everything blurry af
Nvidia’s website says its 690$ here but its gonna be at least 750$ in my country or even 800$
With AI and latency bigger than the pricetag
Nanomachines son
Like he said, AI (because of course). “This would not have had been possible without AI”
When most of your frames aren't even real.
Let’s hope the AI actually lives up to its hype and looks good in all games
50 series has literally no performance increase once you ignore ai
Bro fell for the marketing hook line and sinker
Rtx 4000 series= rtx5000 with a bit power voltage. The only one difference is the IA software program installed in the rtx5000
If you thought AI Minecraft was funny now you can make every game AI