I REALLY dislike the scene N being beaten by Ghetsis until he bleeds… (in a good way, because the story is still quite amazing) that’s awfully disgusting scarring me… I will try to forget the scene MILLION times but I just can’t…
One of my favourite aspects of Ghetsis in the Manga is how he tries to justify it all at the end. It was his dream to rule Unova. Which ties into how all the protagonists are chasing a dream of some sort. The theming of these arcs are the dreams that everyone has, and Ghetsis has the gall to try and equate his dream of conquest and cruelty as a dream in the same vein as Black wanting to win the pokemon league, or White wanting to become the best agent for talented pokemon.
The games were always vague about Lysandre's belief that the "beauty of the world" was being ruined. The manga was the first time that his Malthusian philosophy was properly explored. He just got tired of helping poor people because there wasn't enough money or resources in the whole world to fix every problem, and that was something he couldn't grapple with, so he decided to get rid of the problem entirely. By force.
2:08 heck bad execution wasn’t even Rose’s problem in the manga since he had his organization spread out throughout galar to counter the rampant gigantimax Pokémon as well as the faith of the gym leaders. His only true fumble is the fact that he genuinely believed the big haired nobles when they told rose that they had the means to counter the darkest night. It was only due to that did rose even commit to this so quickly. And even then he took responsibility for his lapse in judgement by fending off eternatus personality.
I feel like no matter the ranking, whether it be manga or mainline, no one can ever deny the fact that Ghetsis will always be the most unforgiving and evil villain Pokémon has created
8:52 not exactly what Cyrus wanted. In his own words based on his understanding of the lake trio myths he wished to recreate a seemingly incomplete world to end conflict, even acknowledge his own lack of emotion considering himself incomplete to. It was only after witnessing dia platina and pearls support of one another did Cyrus receive his epiphany which leads to him aiding dia in the following arc. And despite his acknowledgment of his lack of emotional range he still had the complete trust and respect of mars Jupiter and Saturn wanting to stay with him even after disbanding galactic.
@@Boarbatrice he was not driven by emotional investment but logical understanding. As a child he had two major interests the intricacies of machines and history. It’s through his understanding of the lake trio myths and views of the world that he came to a conclusion that the world is incomplete as he puts it and believed if he remade the world to be complete all would be fine with the world. And even with wisdom and will he found his own lack of emotional understanding to be what made himself incomplete.
Bro how can yu forget Sird.She fooled giovanni , provoked archie and maxie to death battle and turned dexholders into stone .She should absolutely be in the list.And i think N should be below Guzma.Guzma broke Sun’s arm just cause he messed with his grunts.
To be fair this was in retaliation to what Sun did to his underlings. Let’s not forget that N left White after she jumped off the Farris wheel to get away from him only leaving behind Jasmine to watch her.
@@lunerblade13At the time she tried to jump from the ferris wheel it was not that much high.She certainly fell but received more mental injury than physical due to gigi(tepig) leaving her side.
It's so weird to me how a lot of these are so wildly different from their game counterparts. Like, game Faba is a toadying lacky who thinks he's hot shit but utterly fails to accomplish anything on his own and in Pokespe he's an evil mastermind. Game Archie and Maxie are ecoterrorists who disrupt the balance of nature through sheer incompetence and who have a change of heart and work to make amends and yet Pokespe did...well...yeah. But then you have stuff like Cyrus where it changes him for the better (DPA did the same thing but that sort of ended prematurely and didn't have time to properly explore it) and BDSP seems to follow suit, putting him at the Battle Tower in the postgame (which i feel like would be impossible without SOME sort of turnabout) I cannot figure out what Pryce's whole evil scheme had to do with finding Celebi. Like, how does kidnapping and brainwashing help him find it? It felt almost like the reveal of his true plan was shoehorned in since it was so disconnected to everything he actually did. No Sird? That seems a atartling ommission.
Great video, it just goes to show that the Manga makes its villains the most heinous they've ever been, and I totally agree with Ghetsis being at the top, he ticks all the boxes on how to be a terrible person but a terrific villain.
I think lance is less evil Archie and Maxie you can compare destroying the world to freeing pokemon. Shoot Archie tried to destroy the world twice. I get lance didn’t get his karma but I would take his action over what those two did.
Lance didn't his karma, but having to spend your life in hiding after almost getting vaporized isn't exactly scot-free. I mean, Bruno was apart of Lance's group, and no one cared.
The fact that Ghetsis didn't get any actual punishment and all he received was a humiliating defeat is something that makes me angry If in the future we get a Dark Black and Light White arc I want him to die or at least for Black and N to get their revenge on him I rarely hate a character So much so that I wish it dead
Death isn’t a fitting punishment for Ghetsis. It’s too clean and merciful. His end in BW2 (games) is perfect I think. The Shadow Triad heavily suggests or outright states that he has completely lost it and is essentially a catatonic vegetable. A prisoner of his own mind and body, unable to function, let alone devise a new scheme to conquer Unova. Condemned to be stuck in his last, colossal failure for the rest of his life.
I remember reading the Pokemon adventures manga back when Viz released them in the 2010's and even now I look back at how hardcore the manga is and think wow pokemon just hit harder in the early 2000's.
One thing I wish happened with N and getting attacked by Ghetsis. Was that he lost his eye. So it could parallel both him and his father. Ghetsis has the red eye to represent Ideals as N has a blue eye to represent truth. I know he has Zekrom but that was mostly because he followed his father’s ideals.
Gold is easily my favourite human character in Adventures but I wish his team was better. Typhlosion, Politoad, and Togekiss are great. Ambipom is okay but Sunflora and Sudowoodo have to go. I don’t mind if they were one off catches that say in storage but they actively drag the team down. If it were up to me, I would’ve pushed his team in one of two directions. One is to swap those two for Umbreon and Skarmory. The team gets a lot of defence while also adding representation for the new gen 2 types. They could stop there and keep Ambipom but my concern is the lack of firepower on his team at that point, especially relative to Silver, Red, or Blue. I would drop Ambipom for one of 2 pokemon. He could have an Arcanine instead of Crys, doubling down on fire which is fine since Silver has 3 water types (I know water is a way better type to have multiple of them fire). Having multiple fire types would fit his personality pretty well. The other option is hatching an Elekid or having one from the start, doesn’t matter, and eventually having Electivire. His team would be so much more threatening this way. Either way, still the best character though. TLDR: Typhlosion Politoad Togekiss Ambipom -> Arcanine or Electivire Sunflora -> Skarmory Sudowoodo -> Umbreon
The dumb villains, you laugh at the most. And the Sciencey ones you often dislike the most. Often for being a creep. And then there's the ones that abuse Cildren.
Wait, maby it is wrong but did giovanni created team rocket for the soul reason of finding his son which was lost for a lot of time since he was 2, and also published a book that will help those who try to train a ground type pokemon?
That’s originally what we thought but in the HGSS chapter he said that he made team rocket since he chose to walk the path of evil As for the book he did make it blue(m) has it and uses it since he took over giovannis gym
The manga has THE (morally) WORST Versions of Faba, Lysandre, & Ghetsis in which I NEVER thought I’d have so much Hate. If it weren’t for Faba being a clue to Mohn’s whereabouts, I’d leave Him to His Ironic & GREATLY deserved fate 👿👿👿👿👿
This manga has some excellent villains, but every time Ghetsis in particular appeared, I’d get angry (in a good way). Kusaka’s a really good writer.
Kusaka never half-asses his work. Even when he fumbles. He's very passionate about what he does. And I'm glad he's the writer for Pokémon Adventures.
I REALLY dislike the scene N being beaten by Ghetsis until he bleeds… (in a good way, because the story is still quite amazing) that’s awfully disgusting scarring me… I will try to forget the scene MILLION times but I just can’t…
@@user-fantasy20mk08ngl that scene was kinda funny, arguably the best fight in all of Pokémon
@@user-fantasy20mk08Local terrorist beats his son in public (GONE WRONG) (BLOOD SHOWN) (POLICE CALLED)
One of my favourite aspects of Ghetsis in the Manga is how he tries to justify it all at the end. It was his dream to rule Unova. Which ties into how all the protagonists are chasing a dream of some sort. The theming of these arcs are the dreams that everyone has, and Ghetsis has the gall to try and equate his dream of conquest and cruelty as a dream in the same vein as Black wanting to win the pokemon league, or White wanting to become the best agent for talented pokemon.
Pokémon is the world of dreams after all
The games were always vague about Lysandre's belief that the "beauty of the world" was being ruined. The manga was the first time that his Malthusian philosophy was properly explored. He just got tired of helping poor people because there wasn't enough money or resources in the whole world to fix every problem, and that was something he couldn't grapple with, so he decided to get rid of the problem entirely. By force.
That happened in the anime too
The games did briefly touch on that but it was hidden in a journal that vanishes after a while.
so every villain either wants to rule the world, or just straight up destroying it
and then there's bryce who decided to messed with the timeline
2:08 heck bad execution wasn’t even Rose’s problem in the manga since he had his organization spread out throughout galar to counter the rampant gigantimax Pokémon as well as the faith of the gym leaders.
His only true fumble is the fact that he genuinely believed the big haired nobles when they told rose that they had the means to counter the darkest night. It was only due to that did rose even commit to this so quickly. And even then he took responsibility for his lapse in judgement by fending off eternatus personality.
I feel like no matter the ranking, whether it be manga or mainline, no one can ever deny the fact that Ghetsis will always be the most unforgiving and evil villain Pokémon has created
8:52 not exactly what Cyrus wanted. In his own words based on his understanding of the lake trio myths he wished to recreate a seemingly incomplete world to end conflict, even acknowledge his own lack of emotion considering himself incomplete to.
It was only after witnessing dia platina and pearls support of one another did Cyrus receive his epiphany which leads to him aiding dia in the following arc.
And despite his acknowledgment of his lack of emotional range he still had the complete trust and respect of mars Jupiter and Saturn wanting to stay with him even after disbanding galactic.
It is kinda funny how manga Cyrus thinks he has no emotions, but he’s probably the most emotional person in the manga
@@Boarbatrice he was not driven by emotional investment but logical understanding. As a child he had two major interests the intricacies of machines and history.
It’s through his understanding of the lake trio myths and views of the world that he came to a conclusion that the world is incomplete as he puts it and believed if he remade the world to be complete all would be fine with the world.
And even with wisdom and will he found his own lack of emotional understanding to be what made himself incomplete.
I’d say Archie is way more evil than Maxie in the manga. Maxie at least cares about his subordinates. Archie iirc just straight up tries to kill his.
Also, in Hoenn, expanding the land for humanity makes much more sense than flooding everything.
Bro how can yu forget Sird.She fooled giovanni , provoked archie and maxie to death battle and turned dexholders into stone .She should absolutely be in the list.And i think N should be below Guzma.Guzma broke Sun’s arm just cause he messed with his grunts.
To be fair this was in retaliation to what Sun did to his underlings. Let’s not forget that N left White after she jumped off the Farris wheel to get away from him only leaving behind Jasmine to watch her.
Where the heck did Sird even go? She gave Charon her Darkrai and then vanished. We don't even see her do THAT.
@@lunerblade13At the time she tried to jump from the ferris wheel it was not that much high.She certainly fell but received more mental injury than physical due to gigi(tepig) leaving her side.
@@BJGvideosshe is gone, just like that, such a wasted potential
It's so weird to me how a lot of these are so wildly different from their game counterparts. Like, game Faba is a toadying lacky who thinks he's hot shit but utterly fails to accomplish anything on his own and in Pokespe he's an evil mastermind. Game Archie and Maxie are ecoterrorists who disrupt the balance of nature through sheer incompetence and who have a change of heart and work to make amends and yet Pokespe did...well...yeah.
But then you have stuff like Cyrus where it changes him for the better (DPA did the same thing but that sort of ended prematurely and didn't have time to properly explore it) and BDSP seems to follow suit, putting him at the Battle Tower in the postgame (which i feel like would be impossible without SOME sort of turnabout)
I cannot figure out what Pryce's whole evil scheme had to do with finding Celebi. Like, how does kidnapping and brainwashing help him find it? It felt almost like the reveal of his true plan was shoehorned in since it was so disconnected to everything he actually did.
No Sird? That seems a atartling ommission.
Great video, it just goes to show that the Manga makes its villains the most heinous they've ever been, and I totally agree with Ghetsis being at the top, he ticks all the boxes on how to be a terrible person but a terrific villain.
I think lance is less evil Archie and Maxie you can compare destroying the world to freeing pokemon. Shoot Archie tried to destroy the world twice. I get lance didn’t get his karma but I would take his action over what those two did.
Lance didn't his karma, but having to spend your life in hiding after almost getting vaporized isn't exactly scot-free. I mean, Bruno was apart of Lance's group, and no one cared.
Wait Cyrus was crying blood? I thought that his tears were dark because I thought he was wearing Eye Shadow
Kusaka confirmed it was blood
Aight, new headcanon just dropped
@@BJGvideoshow was he crying blood?
The fact that Ghetsis didn't get any actual punishment and all he received was a humiliating defeat is something that makes me angry
If in the future we get a Dark Black and Light White arc I want him to die or at least for Black and N to get their revenge on him
I rarely hate a character So much so that I wish it dead
Wasn’t he arrested and also afraid of Pokémon, I remember him getting scared of Pokémon and walking away humiliated in the end, simple but fitting
He deserved it, yes, but it was not enough for someone like him@@Deathmare235
@@Deathmare235I don’t think he was made afraid of Pokémon but Pokémon certainly hate him back.
@@lunerblade13 he definitely got scared when they tried to attack him
Death isn’t a fitting punishment for Ghetsis. It’s too clean and merciful. His end in BW2 (games) is perfect I think. The Shadow Triad heavily suggests or outright states that he has completely lost it and is essentially a catatonic vegetable. A prisoner of his own mind and body, unable to function, let alone devise a new scheme to conquer Unova. Condemned to be stuck in his last, colossal failure for the rest of his life.
I remember reading the Pokemon adventures manga back when Viz released them in the 2010's and even now I look back at how hardcore the manga is and think wow pokemon just hit harder in the early 2000's.
One thing I wish happened with N and getting attacked by Ghetsis. Was that he lost his eye. So it could parallel both him and his father. Ghetsis has the red eye to represent Ideals as N has a blue eye to represent truth. I know he has Zekrom but that was mostly because he followed his father’s ideals.
For me the most evil was the masked man reading the manga and seeing how powerful he was scared me
Gold is easily my favourite human character in Adventures but I wish his team was better. Typhlosion, Politoad, and Togekiss are great. Ambipom is okay but Sunflora and Sudowoodo have to go. I don’t mind if they were one off catches that say in storage but they actively drag the team down. If it were up to me, I would’ve pushed his team in one of two directions. One is to swap those two for Umbreon and Skarmory. The team gets a lot of defence while also adding representation for the new gen 2 types. They could stop there and keep Ambipom but my concern is the lack of firepower on his team at that point, especially relative to Silver, Red, or Blue. I would drop Ambipom for one of 2 pokemon. He could have an Arcanine instead of Crys, doubling down on fire which is fine since Silver has 3 water types (I know water is a way better type to have multiple of them fire). Having multiple fire types would fit his personality pretty well. The other option is hatching an Elekid or having one from the start, doesn’t matter, and eventually having Electivire. His team would be so much more threatening this way. Either way, still the best character though.
TLDR:
Typhlosion
Politoad
Togekiss
Ambipom -> Arcanine or Electivire
Sunflora -> Skarmory
Sudowoodo -> Umbreon
Lt. Surge, Koga, Sabrina, Lance, and more being villain… *UNEXPECTEDLY.*
Cyrus was pretty chill throughout the manga
Chill! He accidentally killed the trio in the cave without noticing.He also grew some demon wings during the battle which scared the hell out of dia.
@@legendsteelix9880 he was pretty chill as far as terrorists go
@@legendsteelix9880The wings were Honchkrow perching on his back
Hope manga make all villain bosses working together to fight all adventure protagonists
the obligatory, fuck Ghetsis
No matter what Ghetsis appears in, he'll always be the bad guy people love to hate. He'll always be the true enemy of all Pokémon.
Each time I see your pfp, I see Lysandre wearing a bra
in terms of writing and enjoyability , mask man is the best villain for me .
and if we are talking about being evil then its easily gethsis .
The dumb villains, you laugh at the most.
And the Sciencey ones you often dislike the most. Often for being a creep.
And then there's the ones that abuse Cildren.
Dude got hit with Sheer Cold and was only frozen
Honey wake up VeeVolt Uploaded!!!
Can you please do Black full Pokémon team explained.
Personally, I would place N below Guzma, mostly because he’s my favourite character (yeah, call me basic, I don’t care).
he forgot to metion how Colress invented the beast balls for Lusamine
Fabba was a generational hater
Ghetsis better be number 1.
Saque is my favorite villain.
Can you do wost to best villains ?
Wait, maby it is wrong but did giovanni created team rocket for the soul reason of finding his son which was lost for a lot of time since he was 2, and also published a book that will help those who try to train a ground type pokemon?
That’s originally what we thought but in the HGSS chapter he said that he made team rocket since he chose to walk the path of evil
As for the book he did make it blue(m) has it and uses it since he took over giovannis gym
@@VeeVolt maby i was wrong on the first one lmao, i am around the first few chapters of the DPP arc of the manga
He always had the organization.
Imposter Professor Oak hands down the worst villain
you should in time sections for the video, for consumer/viewer satisfication
Archie is the evilest, he killed maxie to get the immortality armor and sword from team galactic
Am I tripping or do I see Lance?
He was the original N/team plasma.
The manga has THE (morally) WORST Versions of Faba, Lysandre, & Ghetsis in which I NEVER thought I’d have so much Hate.
If it weren’t for Faba being a clue to Mohn’s whereabouts, I’d leave Him to His Ironic & GREATLY deserved fate
👿👿👿👿👿
I liked the OG Manga, but I don’t like to think that there’s an international police in Pokémon.
I would say lance should be above pryce pryce had a reason lance did not not and just did for fun
No Lance did have a reason he hated humans for all the pollution they caused to Pokémon like destruction of their habitat and food sources
This manga needs anime adpatation.