When this team pulls another joke of a performance this Thursday in front of a prime audience in front of a Huntington bank stadium full of Steelers fans because the "greatest" fans in sports sell their tickets to Pittsburgh fans, I hope the worst media in sports starts calling for Haslam to sell the team instead of building a new stadium in brookpark.
Browns are shit show In fact browns fans should protest all off season and say that if haslam doesn’t sell the team the fans will cancel season tickets and will not show up
It has to be the coach's fault. He should have asked the kicker if he felt good enough to try a kick. Everything is Stefanski's fault. Without him this team of nothings will win it all. Sure!
Its time to move on. This regime had its opportunity. Vrabel for Stefanski, and replace Berry & Depodesta with Belichick. The Browns fans don't even complain anymore, they're just completely done at this point.
No way jimmy is firing depodesta. I don't know if he has something on jimmy, but he's like some kind of wizard with a magical spell over him. I'd take vrabel but with as much access as he's had to see behind the curtain with how our organization is run why on earth would he choose this job over much more attractive options. If anything he probably has made a list a mile long of all the things not to do from what he's seen here
There is plenty of complaining going on. With the players the Browns have Vrabel will do not better and I'm not so sure Belichick would be that good of a GM. I'm not happy with Berry but I wouldn't replace him with Belichick.
I agree with Earl.Get rid of Depodesta and Berry and let the new GM decide if he wants to keep Stefanski or not. Imo Depodesta is a too close to Haslam and his decision making. Don't need a baseball analytics guy round here. At all!
Ab is useless, he made the worst trade in nfl history and he might be the worst drafting GM in the entire nfl. No one wants to let him do another draft dude. He sucks.
As long as the owner remains the same changing the management will not fix the bad decisions. The team rotten from the very top on down. You can replace whoever you want underneath the owner but as long as he's the owner nothing you do matters.
This will go down as the most epic crash ever of a damn good football team from last season to this season. Heads will have to roll . The players who deserve another chance will get their chance to shine again. However , it’s time to make some major adjustments in the head office, head coaches and general manager.
My cousin made a good point last. Keep Berry as the capoligist. He went to school for that, not picking talent. Hire gm to pick talent. Get rid of podesta and Stefanski
Berry is an idiot. He paid the players upfront bonuses to stretch out the cap. That means the players get a small game check, because they got most of the money upfront. You have a bunch of mini Watson contracts and there's no incentive to play hard.
@@someperson8151that’s a terrible oversimplified explanation of what’s restructuring deals does lol, not to mention it happens at every organization in the league. Almost all of Andrew berrys short comings are directly linked to depodestas “vision” you can’t even electively say berry is the problem until the browns operate for several years without depodesta involved.
@anthonypa8045 that’s a grossly oversimplified way of describing it. I’m not gonna put the blame on berry until he’s had a couple years without depodestas influence. Show me a bad AB decision and I garuntee it’s also something that fits perfectly into depodestas “vision”
@ryand5725 berry made the worst trade in nfl history trading 6 draft picks for the worst statistical qb in the nfl over the last 3 years, then gave him the worst contract in nfl history too. Berry also might be the worst gm when it comes to making draft picks. Out of his 37 picks only 1 has made a pro bowl. 0 all pros.
The Watson deal is just part of the problem but it’s huge because you don’t have the draft picks and capital to fix all the mistakes made in the past on this roster.The owner is in a predicament he just signed extensions for Stefanski and Berry plus being stuck with Watson and his massive cap hit for a couple years yet .The whole front office including Kevin should be fired because the Watson fiasco is just to big to ignore you can’t run a team like that.
We can say without hesitation that Baker Mayfield will be the biggest winner in the Watson deal. Baker's next contract will be larger than Watson's. Stefanski might get a job coaching at a junior college and Andrew Berry the Browns GM might get a game of dominos somewhere. They both deserve what they get after treating Mayfield so poorly.
The Browns have played a who’s who of the bad teams in the NFL. Cowboys, Jags, Raiders, Giants, Saints and Bengals. They’re 1-5 against the worst teams in the league. Blow the whole thing up this team is total garbage.
This is from the same people that criticized the Cavs in-action throughout the summer. Don't touch a thing. These are smart football personnel. They can get this figured out. Stop firing everybody.
Yes Billecheck GM Vrabel Headcoach . The planets have aligned. Then find a oc with a wide open playbook. From run and playaction to pistol to shot gun to five wide. And if they love end arounds don't hire them. 😂
It's very simple every single person involved with trading Baker, plus 5 picks 3 of them 1st round then deciding it was a good idea to set a presitent and fully guarantee Deshun for 230m after not playing tor almost 2 years not to mention his off court drama's should be Fuc Ken!!!! FIRED
I think they should stick with Stefanski and Berry,but say good bye to Dorsey and Dickerson,if not I believe you would have to overhaul the roster to fit Dorsey's scheme.,which would set the team back as a whole...IF ,IF Haslam pushed to get Watson which is believable after he told the homeless guy said to draft Manziel than he needs to focus on this dome thing and moving to brook park and let Berry and Stefanski huddle together and for the FIRST time actually get their QB instead of walking in with a QB in place(Mayfield) or(I'm only guessing)had both Watson and Dorsey forced on them...If any coach(es) should be let go IMO its Dorsey,Dickerson,and Ventrone and I would either get rid of DePesto or give him a job where his voice is smaller in the football room
If no one is able to articulate what Paul D is actually doing for the Browns.....why does he need to leave? Maybe his only responsibility is to bring donuts every morning.
Honestly just ask Ozzie to come out of retirement, get someone that is familiar with Cleveland and football here,Berry can go back to Philly, DePodesta go back to San Diego, analytics department go back to Starbucks, Stefanski I don't really have a problem with you,other than the fact that you let Haslem neuter you! See y'all Thursday lmao
I hope the Browns play competent football the rest of the season maybe we get to keep stefanski.. all this turn over at the coaching position it's proven to be a loser's mentality
If we fire stefanski we'll have to choose from a terrible pool of coaches who would be willing to come here. What legit coach would sign up to coach a team who has no qb and who will be hamstrung for years by paying a huge contract to a qb who isnt even playing? In addition to that our organization is seen as a laughing stock with a meddling owner and then of couese there's depodesta. A baseball guy who gets to tell the gm and coach what to do. Yeah im sure dozens of elite coaching candidates will be beating down the door for this opportunity
depo runs the browns. this is not on berry and stefanski. i promise when they are run outta town.. they will be what dorsey is to the lions. winners. haslam and depo need to go.
@@ryanhyatt9401 hate to see it. they want to blame the fans.. but the fans keep showing up year after year hoping the franchise will get it right. maybe one day.
Funny thing is John Dorsey is one of their head scouts. A "Senior Personnel executive". So the Browns fired him and he went and helped build the Lions. He had come to Cleveland after helping Reid build the Chiefs initial SB team.
They checked out from day one of the regular season preseason and Houston playoff game last year.
When this team pulls another joke of a performance this Thursday in front of a prime audience in front of a Huntington bank stadium full of Steelers fans because the "greatest" fans in sports sell their tickets to Pittsburgh fans, I hope the worst media in sports starts calling for Haslam to sell the team instead of building a new stadium in brookpark.
The nfl needs to add relegation
The Browns deserve relegation for sure
Browns are shit show
In fact browns fans should protest all off season and say that if haslam doesn’t sell the team the fans will cancel season tickets and will not show up
Browns gonna win Thursday im bout to bet on it
Won't matter. Haslam isn't selling. He knows as soon as the team gives the fans a tiny glimmer of hope they'll gladly keep shelling out money
I would rather the tteam move to Brookpart than somewhere like Baltimore.
TIME TO CLEAN HOUSE AND EMPTY THE ROSTER!!!!!
The missed field goals I blame on the Snapper and the Holder 😂😂😂😂😂😂
It has to be the coach's fault. He should have asked the kicker if he felt good enough to try a kick. Everything is Stefanski's fault. Without him this team of nothings will win it all. Sure!
It will be interesting to see if another team picks up Wills, plays him at RT where he played in college and see if he excels there.
If Conklin retires he could be available for assistant coach
I think I would like to see Mike Vrabel as HC and Bill Belichick as GM
Its time to move on. This regime had its opportunity. Vrabel for Stefanski, and replace Berry & Depodesta with Belichick. The Browns fans don't even complain anymore, they're just completely done at this point.
Wasn't Vrabel's fault that his idiot GM traded AJ Brown before he even reached his prime age.
No way jimmy is firing depodesta. I don't know if he has something on jimmy, but he's like some kind of wizard with a magical spell over him. I'd take vrabel but with as much access as he's had to see behind the curtain with how our organization is run why on earth would he choose this job over much more attractive options. If anything he probably has made a list a mile long of all the things not to do from what he's seen here
There is plenty of complaining going on. With the players the Browns have Vrabel will do not better and I'm not so sure Belichick would be that good of a GM. I'm not happy with Berry but I wouldn't replace him with Belichick.
Well its hard for me to feel sorry for a bunch of millionaires getting a pink slip. Especially when they deserve it.
Fire Berry and Stefanski. Promote Vrable to head coach and bring John Dorsey back 🤔💯
630 Go Cavaliers🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
These guys are great at saying they should do this and that but where are they going to get this better coach they talk about?
Things are bad right now but we shouldn't jump too soon. This season is over. If they should start somewhere it should be the front office.
I agree with Earl.Get rid of Depodesta and Berry and let the new GM decide if he wants to keep Stefanski or not. Imo Depodesta is a too close to Haslam and his decision making. Don't need a baseball analytics guy round here. At all!
Here's the new headline the new coach is already in the house woof woof woof😢😢
Keep Winston for years to come tho 🏈🐶5️⃣
Yea good mentor and bridge qb. Tell deshaun to just stay home.
Really seriously they have Kevin Stefanski and Andrew Barry a 5 year contract last year WTF really seriously I want answers....
Because I'm not a paying customer I'm still a subscriber and watch 24/7 Brown's and Cavaliers and Guardians...
Let's give AB a chance with some number one picks. Plus we need him to get out of this cap problem were in
Ab is useless, he made the worst trade in nfl history and he might be the worst drafting GM in the entire nfl. No one wants to let him do another draft dude. He sucks.
Baker was only injured when he was the Browns qb. What's that tell ya. 🤔
As long as the owner remains the same changing the management will not fix the bad decisions. The team rotten from the very top on down. You can replace whoever you want underneath the owner but as long as he's the owner nothing you do matters.
This will go down as the most epic crash ever of a damn good football team from last season to this season. Heads will have to roll . The players who deserve another chance will get their chance to shine again. However , it’s time to make some major adjustments in the head office, head coaches and general manager.
They should have benched watson after he started 1-3 or 1-4.. at 1-6 it was too late
Salvage their tires nothing wrong with our wide receivers getting open
My cousin made a good point last. Keep Berry as the capoligist. He went to school for that, not picking talent. Hire gm to pick talent. Get rid of podesta and Stefanski
Berry is an idiot. He paid the players upfront bonuses to stretch out the cap. That means the players get a small game check, because they got most of the money upfront. You have a bunch of mini Watson contracts and there's no incentive to play hard.
@@someperson8151that’s a terrible oversimplified explanation of what’s restructuring deals does lol, not to mention it happens at every organization in the league.
Almost all of Andrew berrys short comings are directly linked to depodestas “vision” you can’t even electively say berry is the problem until the browns operate for several years without depodesta involved.
Berry is useless, the reason we are good with cap is because we have a owner willing to pay most of the players salary upfront as a bonus.
@anthonypa8045 that’s a grossly oversimplified way of describing it.
I’m not gonna put the blame on berry until he’s had a couple years without depodestas influence. Show me a bad AB decision and I garuntee it’s also something that fits perfectly into depodestas “vision”
@ryand5725 berry made the worst trade in nfl history trading 6 draft picks for the worst statistical qb in the nfl over the last 3 years, then gave him the worst contract in nfl history too. Berry also might be the worst gm when it comes to making draft picks. Out of his 37 picks only 1 has made a pro bowl. 0 all pros.
Gonna be 39-39 soon, and 40-44 by end of the year.
The Watson deal is just part of the problem but it’s huge because you don’t have the draft picks and capital to fix all the mistakes made in the past on this roster.The owner is in a predicament he just signed extensions for Stefanski and Berry plus being stuck with Watson and his massive cap hit for a couple years yet .The whole front office including Kevin should be fired because the Watson fiasco is just to big to ignore you can’t run a team like that.
We can say without hesitation that Baker Mayfield will be the biggest winner in the Watson deal. Baker's next contract will be larger than Watson's. Stefanski might get a job coaching at a junior college and Andrew Berry the Browns GM might get a game of dominos somewhere. They both deserve what they get after treating Mayfield so poorly.
Of cooooouuuuurrrrrrsssssse.
I don't want somebody that wants the perfect situation. He is not needed if you have a perfect situation so I would not want Johnson.
The Browns have played a who’s who of the bad teams in the NFL. Cowboys, Jags, Raiders, Giants, Saints and Bengals. They’re 1-5 against the worst teams in the league. Blow the whole thing up this team is total garbage.
Thinking Out of the Box how about Ohio State's head coach coming to the NFL
This is from the same people that criticized the Cavs in-action throughout the summer. Don't touch a thing. These are smart football personnel. They can get this figured out. Stop firing everybody.
It's the owner if he dosnt fix his business that's broken. 🤔
Point goes to Mike nuggets
Yes Billecheck GM Vrabel Headcoach . The planets have aligned. Then find a oc with a wide open playbook. From run and playaction to pistol to shot gun to five wide. And if they love end arounds don't hire them. 😂
Kevin is begging to get fired and get out of here.
It's very simple every single person involved with trading Baker, plus 5 picks 3 of them 1st round then deciding it was a good idea to set a presitent and fully guarantee Deshun for 230m after not playing tor almost 2 years not to mention his off court drama's should be Fuc Ken!!!! FIRED
Are you man enough big and bad enough? Are you going to let your brothers down😢-2024
NFL players allowed to bet on other games other than their own game legally???
Pull the engine
I think they should stick with Stefanski and Berry,but say good bye to Dorsey and Dickerson,if not I believe you would have to overhaul the roster to fit Dorsey's scheme.,which would set the team back as a whole...IF ,IF Haslam pushed to get Watson which is believable after he told the homeless guy said to draft Manziel than he needs to focus on this dome thing and moving to brook park and let Berry and Stefanski huddle together and for the FIRST time actually get their QB instead of walking in with a QB in place(Mayfield) or(I'm only guessing)had both Watson and Dorsey forced on them...If any coach(es) should be let go IMO its Dorsey,Dickerson,and Ventrone and I would either get rid of DePesto or give him a job where his voice is smaller in the football room
Guys I like everything you say, but until Paul D is gone they will not have a prayer on building a winning team
If no one is able to articulate what Paul D is actually doing for the Browns.....why does he need to leave? Maybe his only responsibility is to bring donuts every morning.
What's hurt Watson he has been injured to much.
He's been complete trash when healthy too
Should've never let Kareem hunt go, or Flacco!!!!
He is doing very well in KC. He looks like the old Kareem.
Honestly just ask Ozzie to come out of retirement, get someone that is familiar with Cleveland and football here,Berry can go back to Philly, DePodesta go back to San Diego, analytics department go back to Starbucks, Stefanski I don't really have a problem with you,other than the fact that you let Haslem neuter you! See y'all Thursday lmao
Ozzie is loyal to the Ravens organization because it was the original Browns organization that he played for and was a GM for
@Zer0tolerance77 oh I know he was known as the wizard of Oz,Baltimore lucked out and got a good culture
@@UncleGabe216 yes and Cleveland got the short end of the stick
A2 Caesar
I hope the Browns play competent football the rest of the season maybe we get to keep stefanski.. all this turn over at the coaching position it's proven to be a loser's mentality
If we fire stefanski we'll have to choose from a terrible pool of coaches who would be willing to come here. What legit coach would sign up to coach a team who has no qb and who will be hamstrung for years by paying a huge contract to a qb who isnt even playing? In addition to that our organization is seen as a laughing stock with a meddling owner and then of couese there's depodesta. A baseball guy who gets to tell the gm and coach what to do. Yeah im sure dozens of elite coaching candidates will be beating down the door for this opportunity
depo runs the browns. this is not on berry and stefanski. i promise when they are run outta town.. they will be what dorsey is to the lions. winners. haslam and depo need to go.
Yeah but that ain't happening. We'll fire stefanski and just repeat the cycle all over again
@@ryanhyatt9401 hate to see it. they want to blame the fans.. but the fans keep showing up year after year hoping the franchise will get it right. maybe one day.
#brownsurrection
Detroit has better players than the Browns.
Funny thing is John Dorsey is one of their head scouts. A "Senior Personnel executive". So the Browns fired him and he went and helped build the Lions. He had come to Cleveland after helping Reid build the Chiefs initial SB team.