You saying he is only making $5 million this year is so misleading... he got paid $19 million of his fully guaranteed $31 million before ever playing in the NFL. He already got $3million this year while he wasn't practicing and he got the other amount for this year paid to him before ever playing in NFL (he was paid 3 yrs in advance) Ja'Marr will make 2025 $21.8 fully guaranteed 2026 $35 Million Notice Burrow isn't saying he's only making $10million this year which is technically what Burrow is making this season... but Burrow was already paid $40M and $70M in the last year in bonuses that don't count against the cap
@@bengalsfandom623 exactly. Chase is being a selfish twat is all it is. He's trying to change the way things work. I want us to extend him and I know we will this year or next. Hopefully it's this year because it's cheaper than next. I just don't like his selfish actions
This whole affair has creeped into the chycie of the team!you can blame this all on front office...and is trickling down on the team...the result...poor performance on everyone!!!😢😮😢
@@JimmyGraffiti91 I’m disappointed in the fans because everybody is making excuses for this team. KC doesn’t make excuses they make sure they execute. As amazing as Mahomes is as a QB the SB window for ANY team is small. We haven’t fixed any of our problems we’ve had for the last few years and fans aren’t getting impatient as they should be with ZT and the front office. Things need to change and fast.
I’m 100% with James on this. If you’ve agreed on all else, just commit to the player and move up the date. I get trying to protect the organization from being hamstrung by a hefty contract for an injured player, but you’ve got to balance that with showing players that they are valued members of the organization.
That's exactly what they did. It's common sense...all risk at the expense of the team for 6 years...when he's already under contract at a lmuch ower price for 2 more years. All ego...no leverage. Team first is the duty of the owner.
@@beatmaster1234567First duty is to give themselves the best chance of winning. This is sport. Yes there's a lot of money involved, but sport is about winning. Identify your match winners and pay them. Risk and reward. If you're not willing to take a risk on your franchise players you're in the wrong game. Let's see how many games they win without Chase or Higgins.
@@stuartturner1431if paying a bunch of talent max contracts equaled winning then the richest owners (outside of football) could just overpay players to make it harder or impossible to keep good players on teams that are financially responsible. This is what Cleveland has tried to do but failed for 20 years. And Cleveland has had alot of top picks over the last 20 yrs. So no, money doesn't guarantee wins. But I do want players to be payed but if Ja'Marr is unreasonable or doesn't want to stay then other teams like the Panthers would probably be able to pay him more since they aren't paying a QB.
@@beatmaster1234567 correct me if I’m mistaken, but didn’t Rapien say the guarantees aren’t scheduled to start until 2027? That would be 3 years. Which means it wouldn’t start until after his first year of the extension.
That's right James give Chase every single thing he wants as if he hasn't already shown that the contract doesn't matter and he can just hold out, cause distractions because media is so obsessed in making these high value players into divas.....yeah I can't imagine why the Bengals would want to protect themselves 😑
Even if a deal got done, this team still would have lost last Sunday. They weren't prepared at all and weren't even taking shots down the field to Jamarr to begin with.
I can’t help but to wonder if the offense would have looked any better with a healthy Tee Higgins who participated in everything throughout July and August and looked awesome instead of Chase who participated in pretty much nothing. I feel like Higgins and Burton maybe should have been WRs 1 and 2 for week 1. If Higgins hadn’t gotten injured, they maybe could have waited until Chase got 2 or 3 weeks worth of practice time in before letting him play in the games.
Bengals probably win if the deal was done early in training camp because Burrow and Chase would have had more practices to work on timing after surgery. I agree if Higgins was healthy we definitely would have won. To me Chase is being a little petty.
If you are under contract with your particular company, and you are a rock star for them, are they going to extend you with two years left on you current contract? No. So why should he expect it? Or demand it? Two years he has left....
The reality is two of Chase’s classmates, Waddle & Smith got extensions after their 3rd year. They also play with fellow WR’s also pocketing big 💵 yet somehow the Bengals have two WR’s that aren’t on long term contracts 🤔 it makes you wonder
@@taboohstidbits4479 Smith took $25M and Waddle took $28M whereas Ja'Marr wanted $35-40M Eagles & Dolphins made $100M more than the Bengals in just 1 year so they have more cash flow We are true underdogs in so many ways and still found ways to succeed with less Cleveland and Panthers have some of the richest owners (money outside of the NFL) who have struggled for years or decades (in Cleveland's case) even with that huge advantage. If you as a fan need independently wealthy owners then this is not the team for you
@@austinsingleton6095 Two years on his contract. Play this year, and then negotiate after this season. And revolving door? We've always had a WR1 that was worth keeping and did so...
@sbc_4738 ewwww weeeeee THAT IS RIGHT WE'VE ALWAYS HAD A WR1 and I can't remember a time we DID NOT !!! From Collinsworth in the 80's , Pickens 90's , Chad Johnson , Aj Green , Ja'marr Chase!! He's thinking about Washington and them starting 8 different QBs since 2017 hahahaha now that's a real revolving door lmao
Shameful they couldn’t get a deal done. However, I think it also shows how disconnected this whole process has become.. that $30m signing bonus IS the team showing good faith and posting guaranteed money up front. We just have taken it for granted that it is just more juice to get a deal signed.. Still pretty sad that this was the sticking point
Bengals have to look at the incoming cash from streaming services in the future. If you're in business one of the basic premises to ensure the vitality of the future is to look at the big picture. When do other players come into play? Just a thought.
Doesnt chase always say “ Ill bet on myself?” If thats his own words which they are i can find the clip , then why is he so worried about the guarantee money so soon ?? Answer that ….
Well yeah, WRs almost always will, unless you're talking about Brady, Brees, Testaverde, Blanda, McNabb, etc...they take far fewer hits, so that's a "common sense" comment.
If we're lucky Tee will play 7/8 games and Jamar will mysteriously miss his fare share of games as well with Nick back injuries. And also don't forget Trey Hendrickson is not happy with his contract as well so he might miss games .This season might be a wash and we're drafting in the top 10 if the front office doesn't do something. We can be looking at Trent Irwin and Andre as our 1/2 receivers on a lot of Sundays this year. They gonna sit out to Teach Mike Brown and the front office a lesson. Basically play with out us and see if Joe Burrow can take the team to the playoffs by himself. I hope it doesn't go that way but it's headed in that direction in my opinion.
People calling the bengals cheap are stupid. The my max burrow the highest paid player, then offered Chase a record tying contract. 90 million a year for a QB and WR.
I honestly would rather keep Higgins long term than chase we actually could sign Huggins to 125 million contract. Keep chase for four more years because we could tag him both years then let him walk. I don’t like how chase is handling this and it really seems like he a me me me guy and Huggins is on a tag and didn’t sit out nothing and played in pre season isk
Guaranteed money I can see that being a hank up something I think could be worked with from both sides, I still think this deal is going to get done May not be this year but it'll get done. They can work out that guaranteed money I'm sure of that, Chase is not going anywhere he'll be a Bengal for his career or for most of his career. Who dey Bengals!
...and Jimmy I don't think it's simply that they don't WANT to move, I've heard that it's also an access to 100 or 120 million dollars liquid for transfer the next day. Maybe if they get some assets wiggled they CAN get it done.
Trade him for some defensive down linemen. Our defense is terrible. Joe is still recovering from his injury. We need another running back. Jamar is costing too much.
Agreed. I love the JB and JC combo but at this point I’m ready to trade Chase for picks, draft another deep threat #1 WR, let Tee walk, save $50K-$60K per year and invest it into a seasoned tier 1 RG, LG and DT.
DANG SO CLOSE… Hopefully they can get this done because yea they are right there… Get it done so he feels good and gets a morale boost and move along. I’m happy to hear the Bengals offered him that much tho lol
He's negotiating an extension to his current contract, not renegotiating his current contract. He has every right to negotiate the extension now, and the Bengals are foolish not to pull the trigger.
This is the problem of trying to give a guy a deal with 2 years left on his rookie deal. Yeah it is a Jamar problem. That offer is great. It’s Jamar’s side not giving an inch. They need to learn what negotiations mean.
Exactly. James is a moron. Chase already made like 30 million with his bonuses. Plus would make 21 next year. This is bullshit. He is under contract. Get over it
Bengals should bump up the guarantees to 2026 especially since Salary Cap will be significantly higher in 2026 vs this year and next which are the last 2 years of his contract. Just do it and move on!
He wants a competitive contract and that is when the other guarantee kicks in after their last year of current contract. Additionally you keep saying 6 years, but he can do what he is doing now in another year.
I hate how Katie Blackburn does contracts. It one thing to play hardball, but still get the deal done. Almost all NFL teams play hardball with contracts. The difference with the Bengals? They play hardball but don't get it done
This all falls into what I have been saying: Bengals do NOT have the cash in hand to guarantee that money NOW or even soon. They need the time to be able to build up cash reserves.
That's why they should explore adding minority owners to the team. It's a new NFL and they need more liquid cash than ever to cover these deals, and they don't have it.
Stephen A did an interview with Jerry Jones last week and Jerry said he had to put contracts on the "credit card" which he explained was loans due to not having the cash flow
Why as a private company are earnings discussed not only within each team but to all teams? Most companies don't let everyone in their company let alone all other companies post salaries. Can you imagine every player not knowing what everyone makes and negotiates behind closed doors? There can still be a salary cap that has to be sent to the commissioner.
Okay so they made Joe the highest paid player in the league with a guarantee that kicks in really early and because of that chase has to pay for it because Joe got hurt jamarr Chase is a beast and they're f****** up this has been the story of The Bengals my whole life
This season is a wrap already. We will be lucky to finish .500 it is so foolish for this organization to F this season over when we should be all in for a SB
There's two sides to every story and I'm sick of both of them. Fan's emotions are being used as leverage in today's negotiations, and Training Camp has turned into Summer Camp because these players are making so much money that the Front Office is afraid of them getting hurt. What a bunch of malarky.
What a disappointment this franchise is. From the front office, to the coaches to even the players. Tee is healthy the entire off season and now he’s leaning towards missing more time. The Ja’Marr drama is to the point to where it’s exhausting. I have no faith in this team. I’m dropping all expectations. Wouldn’t be surprised if they missed the playoffs again.
I don't get these boomer ass fans who don't look at this realistically, claiming he shouldn't get paid like Jefferson, shouldn't want a deal now, like he is a top 5 wr that will reset the market ofc he should paid immediately and shouldn't resort to him having to hold out in camp. The franchise just has to get up to date. Hendrickson should have been given an extension with guarantees. Tee could have been signed. Reader could have been brought in along with Rankins. Bates should have never left. They just needed to give these signing bonuses and make guarantees to lessen the cap. This is how the Eagles have this stacked team, have their qb with Brown and Smith signed and made a splash deal getting Barkley. Bengals fans couldn't dream of this as a possibility. Our splash signing was Trent Brown, who these same fans think doesn't even want to be here and is just collecting a paycheck lol. If they do not have the money to be able to make these moves they should sell the team to someone who will. Browns are over there overpaying everyone while we are making all our best players upset and making it worse on ourselves. Chase of all players should not be a player we are doing this to.
I hate this guaranteed bs. Im a cop. I dont get guanateed 80k until i work the entire year. I could get rub over or shot literally tomorrow. Screw these athletes
Chase is too high on himself. Honestly he thinks he is worth more than JJ? He’s great don’t get me wrong but his attitude is turning quite diva-esk. Imho it’s affecting the team. Look how they looked Sunday and then after the game Chase wants to act like a baby talking about “ask Zac”. Bruh if you’d have practiced things might have been more dialed in. Chase and Tee both need to come off the high Horse just a little. Those two and Burrow all was talking about”we will take less to stay together”….. Well you see the real person once money is involved. Smh
Chase was the best player on offense and we’re blaming Chase 😂😂😂😂🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️ dude didn’t have one drop and he had the longest catch of the game and was wide open deep on the first drive of the game. But hey it’s Chase’s fault
I’d disagree, in terms of talent Chase is 1 for 1 with JJ. The only reason JJ had those good stats is because he didn’t have a WR2 that took away from his targets like Higgins did to Chase. JJ is the Vikings franchise player which is why they paid him so much money to keep him even though they knew he’d have an ass QB. Chase knows he’s franchise player worthy just like him but the bengals ain’t moving since they already have burrow as their main guy who gets them jersey and ticket sales and who knows what else. At the end of the day it’s a business you can say team this and that but if you were in this situation we both know bengals ain’t going to win any championships anytime soon so they need to pay him top tier money to waste his prime years on this team or else he’ll go get his money elsewhere. It’s a job for them, just like normal people leave their jobs for more money somewhere some he’s entitled to do the same or ask for a raise. He’s part of the reason Burrow looked so good anyways and without him Burrow will be just another good qb with 0 weapons.
You should ask Taylor why the team seems to have problems with all the contract situations, they failed bates, the failed with tee and they failed with chase, sure they got burrow but it went up to the last minute, at what point do we start asking why
Jefferson’s guaranteed money = 110 million. Chase guarantee = 30 million. Chase has gone through 2 seasons. Which means he could theoretically end his NFL career with a whopping 15 million. From a business perspective, he’s a flipping genius. I’ve been on the end of creating immense value for a company and getting railed out of my fair share. Denying 90 mil guaranteed is WILD, but honestly… This guy is one of the guys that everyone talks about potentially being the top WR. Before this contract nonsense chase we were talking about him putting up a potentially historic season this year. Now he’s a scrub and the world can’t believe he’s asking for more bread. Jefferson has had questions about qb play ALL off season. This bengals team has all of the pieces necessary to make a deep run, the vikings… cant say the same. Does it really make sense that the best player vikings gets more than the bengals? Not to me. Especially if the bengals put it together and win a sb. I think chase knows his worth and hes making them pay. Otherwise hes gonna have to play the season on training wheels to protect his future. I think this guy is asking because hes ready to put it out on the line. Also, never forget that a dollar today is worth more than a dollar tomorrow.
Personally, I’d be more upset to be a vikings fan. They have the best and most expensive receiver in the league, but nobody to throw to him. The vikings paid an arm and leg for mediocrity. At least the bengals have hope. Im personally more entertained by cincinatti and have been for the past 3 years since burrow and chase got there. This is coming from a dolphins die hard.
Couldn't WHEN they pay the guarantees actually help with team building and making sure they can still be competitive If the $90 million is fully guaranteed at signing then Even if Ja'Marr gets injured he gets $90 million guaranteed... regardless if he plays EVER again or not How does that protect the Bengals when its just a matter of when the Bengals have to pay him... which protects other players on the team bc that cash could be used to sign others in 2026 So pushing that money only helps to sign and have more cash available for other players and to potentially sign another WR if Ja'Marr gets injured
There's only 3 4 receivers on earth that could replace chase. The entire defense is replaceable except Trey. Perhaps, do well in the draft and you wouldn't be stuck having to pay for premium defense. You let Jessie Bates walk, we suffering for that still. And anybody can get injured that fear based mindset is why bengals have always been mediocre. you speak of mediocrity
@@frankystrings We only needed 1 TD from Ja'Marr on Sunday to win but Ja'Marr sitting out of practice for months definitely affected Burrow's confidence in throwing to Ja'Marr even when only covered one on one most of the time. Ja'Marr had 2 targets and 7 yards in the 1st half it's entirely based on cash flow for other players to be signed, remaining competitive, giving him security 1 yr early and $30M signing bonus right now vs next year Why does Ja'Marr care when he gets his 90M (if its fully guaranteed)? So he can sit out again in a couple of years. He got most of his 4 year rookie salary before ever playing in NFL but now he says he is only getting 1M this year when he was paid 3 yrs in advance for this year. So when you pay Ja'Marr in advance he has proven he will sit out of practice for months and threaten to sit out of games. Notice that Burrow isn't complaining about only making $10M this season... bc just like Ja'Marr that doesn't reflect what he's been paid and will be paid
@@bengalsfandom623 if burrow wasn't good because chase didn't practice sounds like burrow needs chase. It's pretty obvious. U can act dumb all u want But it's the same thing at LSU. They had many weapons. But, it didn't go until Chase was the #1.. so pull the money out and pay him. It's not thay hard to figure out. And burrow money already coming you know that but you playing dumb because you hate when the black athlete wants more . Typical
@@frankystrings Let's see Ja'Marr play QB week 1 in the NFL with no practice with any receivers 😂 It's the ultimate team game and that's why you NEED to practice as a team 😂 and especially 11 on 11s. So according to you, Mahomes isn't any good bc he puts in extra work with his receivers every offseason... game of inches for those hungry to win. Is Chase hungry to win bc him sitting out of practices didn't help the team. The team might have played alot better if Ja'Marr had practiced for the last month with the team. And Burrow is part of the team. Burrow didn't even look jamarr way when he got open bc that's what should naturally happen when you don't practice. And Burrow probably didn't want Ja'Marr to look bad like Aiyuk dropping balls Ja'Marr will be top paid along with JJettas so what are you talking about. I've said Burrow could've taken $52M like Mahomes instead of $55M. So where does race fit in with Travis Kelce making $17M this year and $12M per year before that and $10M per year before that. Why should Chase make $35-40M while Mahomes top weapon makes $17M. And Travis and JJettas didn't sit out of practices
@@frankystrings College isn't anything like the NFL... except for Ja'Marr who got an easier placement with his same QB and similar offense and an extremely supportive WR room and coaches. Defenses in college are NOTHING like defenses in the NFL bc a bunch of those defenders don't even get a chance to play in the NFL. Now some of the schools have multiple defenders drafted but also have many more not drafted
You'd think players would want the guaranteed money when they are OLDER and more prone to a serious injury. His besties injury record prolly has him nervous lol
@Tom-h9e his security isn't for thr fans.. we have a generational talent and unique situation in a qb and wr connection like we haven't seen before... they raised their prices and sold naming rights.. this organization needs to change their cheap behavior and turn the corner... it send ls the wrong message to the other stars on the team as well
@@ironmanxrp4980 I am sick of pundits they don’t know shit. Mike Brown ain’t gonna change. Burrow is still hurt. He was flexing his wrist the whole game. The Bengals never tell the truth.
@Tom-h9e no lies detected... my point regarding this is that all media attention scrutinizing the bengals moves the needle... they changed and got a bubble when they hadn't done anything like this in their history also regarding the recent locker room renovation... never say never they want the fans in the seats 💺 if jamar ain't happy I don't see people showing up for a losing product at these ticket prices..
What a shocker. They just don't ante up for the going rates for guarantee, whether when vest, or the total in guarantee. I don't blame Chase. That's not a guarantee when it doesn't start for 3 years. What a joke.
Because he is under contract...why on earth would a business rework a contract they don't have to?? No WR is worth what Higgins is contracted for this year...keep drafting them...deepest position group coming out of college every year
The contract issue is already a distraction and just unnessarry. If Chase was told he was getting contract this year, just do it. Otherwise, his value could at 35 mill per year next year.
Why? Why can't people move on from this topic and realize that the Bengals can keep Chase there for 4 more seasons after this one, whether he wants to play or not. It is 100% up to the Bengals.
@@bigshysbro he’s a WR they are a dime a dozen in the league right now, Zach is to soft. If u don’t practice u do t play period. He’s still getting paid millions and he’s under contract for 2 more yrs now, Jefferson waited till his option yr of his first contract, chase don’t have Jefferson numbers so chase can wit or get traded. We to said on these entitled players. Jamar ain’t and all be all.
If you can’t match your peers in other teams with these big time contracts please sell the team. I’m so done with this Great Value Jerry Jones ownership group.
So ultimately the deal fell through because one side wanted the guarantees sooner??? Come on Bengals, sometimes you have to bite the bullet and make it work...We are in an age where most of us live off of credit cards and debt and how to handle it. Kudos to the Bengals for wanting to stick to their guns, but this is possibly an exception to what you usually do because of circumstances. And you broke the trend already with the contracts in 2020-2022, including Burrow. This is really feeling like a person that has been finacially responsible for their entire lives, and built as much credit that you more than likely can apply for a credit card and know they will get, but now that they have that good credit, they arw wary to evwn use it. Strange way to see it, I know. That is just how I see it though.
No its not. He is under contract. They don't have to extend him at all. They are doing hkm a favor. Pkus they are guaranteeing 90 million when they don't have too. Then he wants it all up front? F him.
This is burrow fault everyone. The greatest QBs, inlcuding mahomes, take a pay cut to keep their weapons!! Burrow signed a huge deal, which the team cannot afford higgins, jamar or the bonehead rb in houston now. Thats means they have 2 years left to try and get SB while jamar still on contract. Thats the window!!
The bengals are a mess. You trade mixon and have no running game. By the way mixon went off for 159 yards. Let reader walk and got destroyed by patriots running game. Didn’t trade Higgins knowing they were not going to sign him long term, now he’s silently quitting on the team. No deal for Chase and he is not trying to. The offensive coordinator is a disaster. Lost season
I have Chase fatigue. He's not worth the distraction he's creating. Chase is not a team player. He sat out his last year at LSU. Bengals could have drafted Devonta Smith but selected this.clown.
If i was guessing and what I've seen from the history of bengals dealing they want be forced bye no player to make a deal unless your Joe borrow next i say Jamar is wanting more than J Jefferson why does he deserve more why does the next man up think he must get a bigger deal than the Last it must stop take the best players in the league and base everything off their contacts if Jefferson is the no1 wr in all NFL well why should Jamar make more their must be a CEILING & floor
Because they want to wait and once the market moves up they will be stuck with some crazy figures. Just doesnt make sense whatever deal you give him wont hit for 2 years why have a pissed off wr that will be pissed off and probably will just show up for work but no produce. Its crazy that they dont wanna guarantee the 90 million but we guarantee Burrow who has been hurt about what three years thats crazy chase has given everything that you ask for in a wr even injured he put up what most wr just average
@daviddunn773 Can average fans even attend a game at the stadium they pay taxes for? I don't think Chase will live up to a new contract...pay him at your own risk. He about ready to fall off the cliff when he gets paid...his character tells you that.
@@JordanT3025 the chiefs are a win nothing organization like the Bengals?I forgot the Bengals don't even no what a super bowl trophy looks like in real life.
Let this man go. He’s such an awesome talent but terrible attitude. Pay Tee and trade Chase for a couple 1st rounders. If this guy was a team player I’d be all about paying him but he’s an all about me player. Let him go
@@frankystrings how can we afford to pay him and Joe?? We will have no one else? You’ve got to rely on rookies nowadays. These players want too much money. Tee doesn’t bring the drama that Chase brings. Dude is a diva. We don’t need that. Pay Tee and let’s move on.
@user-fr3zu5tr9d bohoo pay chase and figure out how to draft well.. and on top of that ur gonna bank on Tee who was been hurt 25% of possible games. You just butthurt chase wanna get paid. So pay him. And hope for the best.
The reason why you don't kick gareentees in sooner is the problem the browns have. A shitty player who they can't cut for 3 years. What if Jamar gets hurt amd never comes back strong. Or just starts sucking
Bengals don't have the escape to pay now their not a jerry jones who had back up easy to spend money when it's not yours. We can't spend other people's money
James YOU really need to STOP talking about MONEY and injuries to the players. I don't care if you do it here that's fine BUT DONT BE DISTRACTING THIS TEAM ANYMORE!!!! YOU and ADAM SCHEFTER cost us the last game man!!!! THINK about what you say to these players!!!!! I guarantee Burrow went into this game worried about the first hit because of all the media questions about his wrist... SAME with Chase You asking other players about his money man GET WITH IT BUD!!! WHY WHY WHY YES WHY is it any of your business to ask other players about other players money!!!! STOP!!!!!! YOU ARE messing with this team MAN realize that!!!
What was their net profit from that? Now list ALL of the Bengals expenditures Including the $40 M and $70Million they paid Burrow in the last year and any other signing bonuses or other payments made on contracts beyond this year. Coaches, Staff, operating costs, current players medical & benefits beyond contracts, retired players medical, renovations, etc...
You saying he is only making $5 million this year is so misleading... he got paid $19 million of his fully guaranteed $31 million before ever playing in the NFL. He already got $3million this year while he wasn't practicing and he got the other amount for this year paid to him before ever playing in NFL (he was paid 3 yrs in advance)
Ja'Marr will make
2025 $21.8 fully guaranteed
2026 $35 Million
Notice Burrow isn't saying he's only making $10million this year which is technically what Burrow is making this season... but Burrow was already paid $40M and $70M in the last year in bonuses that don't count against the cap
@@bengalsfandom623 exactly. Chase is being a selfish twat is all it is. He's trying to change the way things work. I want us to extend him and I know we will this year or next. Hopefully it's this year because it's cheaper than next. I just don't like his selfish actions
This dude wanna be in New Orleans anyway, salty dude
@@Dysolussays who
I’m disappointed in everybody. Offense, defense, coaches, front office, owners, even the fans.
Aren't you hard to please....
This whole affair has creeped into the chycie of the team!you can blame this all on front office...and is trickling down on the team...the result...poor performance on everyone!!!😢😮😢
bro what the fuck can the fans do? we're not millionaires
@@JimmyGraffiti91 I’m disappointed in the fans because everybody is making excuses for this team. KC doesn’t make excuses they make sure they execute. As amazing as Mahomes is as a QB the SB window for ANY team is small. We haven’t fixed any of our problems we’ve had for the last few years and fans aren’t getting impatient as they should be with ZT and the front office. Things need to change and fast.
@@24KLuxury oh gotcha. i agree with you. In my opinion, with the brown family in charge, not much will ever change
I’m 100% with James on this. If you’ve agreed on all else, just commit to the player and move up the date. I get trying to protect the organization from being hamstrung by a hefty contract for an injured player, but you’ve got to balance that with showing players that they are valued members of the organization.
That's exactly what they did. It's common sense...all risk at the expense of the team for 6 years...when he's already under contract at a lmuch ower price for 2 more years. All ego...no leverage. Team first is the duty of the owner.
@@beatmaster1234567First duty is to give themselves the best chance of winning. This is sport. Yes there's a lot of money involved, but sport is about winning. Identify your match winners and pay them. Risk and reward. If you're not willing to take a risk on your franchise players you're in the wrong game. Let's see how many games they win without Chase or Higgins.
@@stuartturner1431if paying a bunch of talent max contracts equaled winning then the richest owners (outside of football) could just overpay players to make it harder or impossible to keep good players on teams that are financially responsible. This is what Cleveland has tried to do but failed for 20 years. And Cleveland has had alot of top picks over the last 20 yrs. So no, money doesn't guarantee wins. But I do want players to be payed but if Ja'Marr is unreasonable or doesn't want to stay then other teams like the Panthers would probably be able to pay him more since they aren't paying a QB.
@@beatmaster1234567 correct me if I’m mistaken, but didn’t Rapien say the guarantees aren’t scheduled to start until 2027? That would be 3 years. Which means it wouldn’t start until after his first year of the extension.
That's right James give Chase every single thing he wants as if he hasn't already shown that the contract doesn't matter and he can just hold out, cause distractions because media is so obsessed in making these high value players into divas.....yeah I can't imagine why the Bengals would want to protect themselves 😑
Very well said.
Even if a deal got done, this team still would have lost last Sunday. They weren't prepared at all and weren't even taking shots down the field to Jamarr to begin with.
I can’t help but to wonder if the offense would have looked any better with a healthy Tee Higgins who participated in everything throughout July and August and looked awesome instead of Chase who participated in pretty much nothing. I feel like Higgins and Burton maybe should have been WRs 1 and 2 for week 1. If Higgins hadn’t gotten injured, they maybe could have waited until Chase got 2 or 3 weeks worth of practice time in before letting him play in the games.
The offense would 100% have been better with Tee fully healthy on the field. He's a massive safety blanket for Burrow @@gothard5
I think Burton is doing it to himself. Needs to get some act right@@gothard5
According to James Rapien it was all Tanner Hudson's fault.
Bengals probably win if the deal was done early in training camp because Burrow and Chase would have had more practices to work on timing after surgery. I agree if Higgins was healthy we definitely would have won. To me Chase is being a little petty.
Thx James!!!!
Yall remember when people thought we would sign Jefferson? 😂😂😂😂
If you are under contract with your particular company, and you are a rock star for them, are they going to extend you with two years left on you current contract? No. So why should he expect it? Or demand it? Two years he has left....
The reality is two of Chase’s classmates, Waddle & Smith got extensions after their 3rd year. They also play with fellow WR’s also pocketing big 💵 yet somehow the Bengals have two WR’s that aren’t on long term contracts 🤔 it makes you wonder
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Smith took $25M and Waddle took $28M whereas Ja'Marr wanted $35-40M
Eagles & Dolphins made $100M more than the Bengals in just 1 year so they have more cash flow
We are true underdogs in so many ways and still found ways to succeed with less
Cleveland and Panthers have some of the richest owners (money outside of the NFL) who have struggled for years or decades (in Cleveland's case) even with that huge advantage.
If you as a fan need independently wealthy owners then this is not the team for you
Do you want to keep Chase around after his contract expires or do you just want the revolving door of players to keep going?
@@austinsingleton6095 Two years on his contract. Play this year, and then negotiate after this season. And revolving door? We've always had a WR1 that was worth keeping and did so...
@sbc_4738 ewwww weeeeee THAT IS RIGHT WE'VE ALWAYS HAD A WR1 and I can't remember a time we DID NOT !!! From Collinsworth in the 80's , Pickens 90's , Chad Johnson , Aj Green , Ja'marr Chase!! He's thinking about Washington and them starting 8 different QBs since 2017 hahahaha now that's a real revolving door lmao
Shameful they couldn’t get a deal done. However, I think it also shows how disconnected this whole process has become.. that $30m signing bonus IS the team showing good faith and posting guaranteed money up front. We just have taken it for granted that it is just more juice to get a deal signed..
Still pretty sad that this was the sticking point
Bengals have to look at the incoming cash from streaming services in the future. If you're in business one of the basic premises to ensure the vitality of the future is to look at the big picture. When do other players come into play? Just a thought.
If the guarantees don’t kick in for 3 more years they’re not guarantees at all.
They are guarantees. They just happen in 3 years. Get a clue
@@Michael-tj5bk maybe you should get a clue how NFL contracts work.
Guarantees don't mean you get it up front.. that is a signing bonus. Guarantees are throughout the length of the contract.
I love your point of view…always spot on! Hired! 😉😊
James, it sounds like you're saying, just give the diva anything he wants. And maybe, just maybe he will honor his contract.
Doesnt chase always say “ Ill bet on myself?” If thats his own words which they are i can find the clip , then why is he so worried about the guarantee money so soon ?? Answer that ….
Chase is looking like he will last longer than Burrow at this rate
Well yeah, WRs almost always will, unless you're talking about Brady, Brees, Testaverde, Blanda, McNabb, etc...they take far fewer hits, so that's a "common sense" comment.
If we're lucky Tee will play 7/8 games and Jamar will mysteriously miss his fare share of games as well with Nick back injuries. And also don't forget Trey Hendrickson is not happy with his contract as well so he might miss games .This season might be a wash and we're drafting in the top 10 if the front office doesn't do something. We can be looking at Trent Irwin and Andre as our 1/2 receivers on a lot of Sundays this year. They gonna sit out to Teach Mike Brown and the front office a lesson. Basically play with out us and see if Joe Burrow can take the team to the playoffs by himself. I hope it doesn't go that way but it's headed in that direction in my opinion.
Then F them. They ain't team players
People calling the bengals cheap are stupid. The my max burrow the highest paid player, then offered Chase a record tying contract. 90 million a year for a QB and WR.
I honestly would rather keep Higgins long term than chase we actually could sign Huggins to 125 million contract. Keep chase for four more years because we could tag him both years then let him walk. I don’t like how chase is handling this and it really seems like he a me me me guy and Huggins is on a tag and didn’t sit out nothing and played in pre season isk
Still lost with Chase. Nothing to see here
Ja'Marr... welcome to the NFL young man! Now really, what were you expecting???
Where has he compromised?
Signing bonus happens immediately, ya? I'm on the team's side.
good point🤔 he woulda got 30 mil (sign bonus) + 5 mil (salary) = 35 mil this year! then 21 mil next year per James's statement...wow
Guaranteed money I can see that being a hank up something I think could be worked with from both sides, I still think this deal is going to get done May not be this year but it'll get done.
They can work out that guaranteed money I'm sure of that, Chase is not going anywhere he'll be a Bengal for his career or for most of his career. Who dey Bengals!
Are there differences in how the salary cap would be impacted by the guarantees vesting in '27 vs '26?
Let’s hope this get done and that there is a distraction less in Jamar or the team… we cannot play again like last Sunday… ever!
Its dumb asf if they dont finish this deal NOW. If they wait until the end of the season the price will only get higher.
Mike Brown is Donald Sterling 😂
We need to keep him honestly unless Burton is going to stand out and show out
We need to keep him regardless if Burton gone show out or not. Tee is gone next year.
@@dashaallen I know everybody else is gon have to fallow suit unless somehow we get Jefferson
...and Jimmy I don't think it's simply that they don't WANT to move, I've heard that it's also an access to 100 or 120 million dollars liquid for transfer the next day. Maybe if they get some assets wiggled they CAN get it done.
Trade him for some defensive down linemen. Our defense is terrible. Joe is still recovering from his injury. We need another running back. Jamar is costing too much.
Agreed. I love the JB and JC combo but at this point I’m ready to trade Chase for picks, draft another deep threat #1 WR, let Tee walk, save $50K-$60K per year and invest it into a seasoned tier 1 RG, LG and DT.
Woh day 😊
DANG SO CLOSE… Hopefully they can get this done because yea they are right there… Get it done so he feels good and gets a morale boost and move along. I’m happy to hear the Bengals offered him that much tho lol
Pay the Man Bengals!!
he signed a contract. live with it
He's negotiating an extension to his current contract, not renegotiating his current contract. He has every right to negotiate the extension now, and the Bengals are foolish not to pull the trigger.
@@jaydubz74they don’t understand that
@@jaydubz74 nah he doesn't have a right to not practice or play. Thats why they look like shit to begin the year.
@@jaydubz74pros and cons
How does teams being able to franchise tag players honor that same contract?
This is the problem of trying to give a guy a deal with 2 years left on his rookie deal.
Yeah it is a Jamar problem. That offer is great. It’s Jamar’s side not giving an inch.
They need to learn what negotiations mean.
Pardon my ignorance.. but if he gets 90m guarenteed.. why does it matter when he gets it? Injury or not.. that 90m is guarenteed
Exactly. James is a moron. Chase already made like 30 million with his bonuses. Plus would make 21 next year. This is bullshit. He is under contract. Get over it
Trust me chase want more than 90 million guaranteed.
Bengals should bump up the guarantees to 2026 especially since Salary Cap will be significantly higher in 2026 vs this year and next which are the last 2 years of his contract. Just do it and move on!
He wants a competitive contract and that is when the other guarantee kicks in after their last year of current contract. Additionally you keep saying 6 years, but he can do what he is doing now in another year.
this is a sticky situation. But going to work out !
I hate how Katie Blackburn does contracts. It one thing to play hardball, but still get the deal done. Almost all NFL teams play hardball with contracts. The difference with the Bengals? They play hardball but don't get it done
"Why doesnt the team just acquiesce to his demands?" -crack negotiator
This all falls into what I have been saying: Bengals do NOT have the cash in hand to guarantee that money NOW or even soon.
They need the time to be able to build up cash reserves.
lol they have the money pay core has plenty of money that’s not the issue.
This. Mike Brown at it again smh
That's why they should explore adding minority owners to the team.
It's a new NFL and they need more liquid cash than ever to cover these deals, and they don't have it.
Stephen A did an interview with Jerry Jones last week and Jerry said he had to put contracts on the "credit card" which he explained was loans due to not having the cash flow
@@danw6530and the cowboys make about $600 Million more each year than the Bengals
Why as a private company are earnings discussed not only within each team but to all teams? Most companies don't let everyone in their company let alone all other companies post salaries. Can you imagine every player not knowing what everyone makes and negotiates behind closed doors? There can still be a salary cap that has to be sent to the commissioner.
Dude hasn't went over 70 yards receiving in 5 straight games ..bro ain't worth that kind of loot
Okay so they made Joe the highest paid player in the league with a guarantee that kicks in really early and because of that chase has to pay for it because Joe got hurt jamarr Chase is a beast and they're f****** up this has been the story of The Bengals my whole life
This season is a wrap already. We will be lucky to finish .500 it is so foolish for this organization to F this season over when we should be all in for a SB
There's two sides to every story and I'm sick of both of them. Fan's emotions are being used as leverage in today's negotiations, and Training Camp has turned into Summer Camp because these players are making so much money that the Front Office is afraid of them getting hurt. What a bunch of malarky.
They don’t have the cash up front,plus don’t have to pay him an extra 28 million dollars this year.
What a disappointment this franchise is. From the front office, to the coaches to even the players. Tee is healthy the entire off season and now he’s leaning towards missing more time. The Ja’Marr drama is to the point to where it’s exhausting. I have no faith in this team. I’m dropping all expectations. Wouldn’t be surprised if they missed the playoffs again.
I don't get these boomer ass fans who don't look at this realistically, claiming he shouldn't get paid like Jefferson, shouldn't want a deal now, like he is a top 5 wr that will reset the market ofc he should paid immediately and shouldn't resort to him having to hold out in camp.
The franchise just has to get up to date. Hendrickson should have been given an extension with guarantees. Tee could have been signed. Reader could have been brought in along with Rankins. Bates should have never left. They just needed to give these signing bonuses and make guarantees to lessen the cap. This is how the Eagles have this stacked team, have their qb with Brown and Smith signed and made a splash deal getting Barkley. Bengals fans couldn't dream of this as a possibility. Our splash signing was Trent Brown, who these same fans think doesn't even want to be here and is just collecting a paycheck lol.
If they do not have the money to be able to make these moves they should sell the team to someone who will. Browns are over there overpaying everyone while we are making all our best players upset and making it worse on ourselves. Chase of all players should not be a player we are doing this to.
I hate this guaranteed bs. Im a cop. I dont get guanateed 80k until i work the entire year. I could get rub over or shot literally tomorrow. Screw these athletes
Chase is too high on himself. Honestly he thinks he is worth more than JJ? He’s great don’t get me wrong but his attitude is turning quite diva-esk.
Imho it’s affecting the team. Look how they looked Sunday and then after the game
Chase wants to act like a baby talking about “ask Zac”. Bruh if you’d have practiced things might have been more dialed in.
Chase and Tee both need to come off the high
Horse just a little. Those two and Burrow all was talking about”we will take less to stay together”…..
Well you see the real person once money is involved. Smh
Chase was the best player on offense and we’re blaming Chase 😂😂😂😂🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️ dude didn’t have one drop and he had the longest catch of the game and was wide open deep on the first drive of the game. But hey it’s Chase’s fault
I’d disagree, in terms of talent Chase is 1 for 1 with JJ. The only reason JJ had those good stats is because he didn’t have a WR2 that took away from his targets like Higgins did to Chase. JJ is the Vikings franchise player which is why they paid him so much money to keep him even though they knew he’d have an ass QB. Chase knows he’s franchise player worthy just like him but the bengals ain’t moving since they already have burrow as their main guy who gets them jersey and ticket sales and who knows what else. At the end of the day it’s a business you can say team this and that but if you were in this situation we both know bengals ain’t going to win any championships anytime soon so they need to pay him top tier money to waste his prime years on this team or else he’ll go get his money elsewhere. It’s a job for them, just like normal people leave their jobs for more money somewhere some he’s entitled to do the same or ask for a raise. He’s part of the reason Burrow looked so good anyways and without him Burrow will be just another good qb with 0 weapons.
So, when burrow took a record deal. Where was your complaining? Only an issue when the black receiver wants a record deal too
@@frankystringsMay be the dumbest comment I’ve ever read. Just embarrassing.
@@frankystrings that’s a stupid comment
Bengals literally can't get out of their own way... This ownership continues to show why they should not be owners
Bengals taking Ls by shooting themselves in the foot.
if guaranteed is not at signing then it is just a scam. They want to pretend to the fanbase that it is guaranteed, but it's not
You should ask Taylor why the team seems to have problems with all the contract situations, they failed bates, the failed with tee and they failed with chase, sure they got burrow but it went up to the last minute, at what point do we start asking why
Two years. He has TWO YEARS left on his current contract. Just play.
Jefferson’s guaranteed money = 110 million. Chase guarantee = 30 million. Chase has gone through 2 seasons. Which means he could theoretically end his NFL career with a whopping 15 million. From a business perspective, he’s a flipping genius. I’ve been on the end of creating immense value for a company and getting railed out of my fair share. Denying 90 mil guaranteed is WILD, but honestly… This guy is one of the guys that everyone talks about potentially being the top WR. Before this contract nonsense chase we were talking about him putting up a potentially historic season this year. Now he’s a scrub and the world can’t believe he’s asking for more bread. Jefferson has had questions about qb play ALL off season. This bengals team has all of the pieces necessary to make a deep run, the vikings… cant say the same. Does it really make sense that the best player vikings gets more than the bengals? Not to me. Especially if the bengals put it together and win a sb. I think chase knows his worth and hes making them pay. Otherwise hes gonna have to play the season on training wheels to protect his future. I think this guy is asking because hes ready to put it out on the line. Also, never forget that a dollar today is worth more than a dollar tomorrow.
Personally, I’d be more upset to be a vikings fan. They have the best and most expensive receiver in the league, but nobody to throw to him. The vikings paid an arm and leg for mediocrity. At least the bengals have hope. Im personally more entertained by cincinatti and have been for the past 3 years since burrow and chase got there. This is coming from a dolphins die hard.
Couldn't WHEN they pay the guarantees actually help with team building and making sure they can still be competitive
If the $90 million is fully guaranteed at signing then Even if Ja'Marr gets injured he gets $90 million guaranteed... regardless if he plays EVER again or not
How does that protect the Bengals when its just a matter of when the Bengals have to pay him... which protects other players on the team bc that cash could be used to sign others in 2026
So pushing that money only helps to sign and have more cash available for other players and to potentially sign another WR if Ja'Marr gets injured
There's only 3 4 receivers on earth that could replace chase.
The entire defense is replaceable except Trey.
Perhaps, do well in the draft and you wouldn't be stuck having to pay for premium defense. You let Jessie Bates walk, we suffering for that still.
And anybody can get injured that fear based mindset is why bengals have always been mediocre. you speak of mediocrity
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We only needed 1 TD from Ja'Marr on Sunday to win but Ja'Marr sitting out of practice for months definitely affected Burrow's confidence in throwing to Ja'Marr even when only covered one on one most of the time. Ja'Marr had 2 targets and 7 yards in the 1st half
it's entirely based on cash flow for other players to be signed, remaining competitive, giving him security 1 yr early and $30M signing bonus right now vs next year
Why does Ja'Marr care when he gets his 90M (if its fully guaranteed)? So he can sit out again in a couple of years. He got most of his 4 year rookie salary before ever playing in NFL but now he says he is only getting 1M this year when he was paid 3 yrs in advance for this year. So when you pay Ja'Marr in advance he has proven he will sit out of practice for months and threaten to sit out of games. Notice that Burrow isn't complaining about only making $10M this season... bc just like Ja'Marr that doesn't reflect what he's been paid and will be paid
@@bengalsfandom623 if burrow wasn't good because chase didn't practice sounds like burrow needs chase. It's pretty obvious. U can act dumb all u want
But it's the same thing at LSU. They had many weapons. But, it didn't go until Chase was the #1.. so pull the money out and pay him. It's not thay hard to figure out. And burrow money already coming you know that but you playing dumb because you hate when the black athlete wants more . Typical
@@frankystrings
Let's see Ja'Marr play QB week 1 in the NFL with no practice with any receivers 😂
It's the ultimate team game and that's why you NEED to practice as a team 😂 and especially 11 on 11s.
So according to you, Mahomes isn't any good bc he puts in extra work with his receivers every offseason... game of inches for those hungry to win. Is Chase hungry to win bc him sitting out of practices didn't help the team. The team might have played alot better if Ja'Marr had practiced for the last month with the team. And Burrow is part of the team. Burrow didn't even look jamarr way when he got open bc that's what should naturally happen when you don't practice. And Burrow probably didn't want Ja'Marr to look bad like Aiyuk dropping balls
Ja'Marr will be top paid along with JJettas so what are you talking about. I've said Burrow could've taken $52M like Mahomes instead of $55M. So where does race fit in with Travis Kelce making $17M this year and $12M per year before that and $10M per year before that. Why should Chase make $35-40M while Mahomes top weapon makes $17M. And Travis and JJettas didn't sit out of practices
@@frankystrings
College isn't anything like the NFL... except for Ja'Marr who got an easier placement with his same QB and similar offense and an extremely supportive WR room and coaches. Defenses in college are NOTHING like defenses in the NFL bc a bunch of those defenders don't even get a chance to play in the NFL. Now some of the schools have multiple defenders drafted but also have many more not drafted
You'd think players would want the guaranteed money when they are OLDER and more prone to a serious injury. His besties injury record prolly has him nervous lol
Tweet this out and let the national pundits take the bengals to task on this issue...
What does that accomplish for Bengal fans?
@Tom-h9e his security isn't for thr fans.. we have a generational talent and unique situation in a qb and wr connection like we haven't seen before... they raised their prices and sold naming rights.. this organization needs to change their cheap behavior and turn the corner... it send ls the wrong message to the other stars on the team as well
@@ironmanxrp4980 I am sick of pundits they don’t know shit. Mike Brown ain’t gonna change. Burrow is still hurt. He was flexing his wrist the whole game. The Bengals never tell the truth.
@Tom-h9e no lies detected... my point regarding this is that all media attention scrutinizing the bengals moves the needle... they changed and got a bubble when they hadn't done anything like this in their history also regarding the recent locker room renovation... never say never they want the fans in the seats 💺 if jamar ain't happy I don't see people showing up for a losing product at these ticket prices..
He doesn't have the money to guarantee him right now. What else could it be????????
What a shocker. They just don't ante up for the going rates for guarantee, whether when vest, or the total in guarantee. I don't blame Chase. That's not a guarantee when it doesn't start for 3 years. What a joke.
@@clementsfamily7002 I think the 30 mil signing bonus is instant.
Because he is under contract...why on earth would a business rework a contract they don't have to?? No WR is worth what Higgins is contracted for this year...keep drafting them...deepest position group coming out of college every year
The contract issue is already a distraction and just unnessarry. If Chase was told he was getting contract this year, just do it. Otherwise, his value could at 35 mill per year next year.
Why can’t we just trade him get the capatiol and extend Tee this is way too much Joe is good enough to make any receiver great so let’s trade him!!!
Why? Why can't people move on from this topic and realize that the Bengals can keep Chase there for 4 more seasons after this one, whether he wants to play or not. It is 100% up to the Bengals.
Man I'm so tired of hearing this ish bro 😂
CAUSE WE NEED TA TAKE CARE OF OUR PLAYERS. THAT'S WHY THE REDS, BENGALS CAN'T KEEP NOBODY
Because it's a headache and infuriating that the Bengals MUST win every single contract. It's absolutely absurd.
@@bigshysbro he’s a WR they are a dime a dozen in the league right now, Zach is to soft. If u don’t practice u do t play period. He’s still getting paid millions and he’s under contract for 2 more yrs now, Jefferson waited till his option yr of his first contract, chase don’t have Jefferson numbers so chase can wit or get traded. We to said on these entitled players. Jamar ain’t and all be all.
@@jcreature11 GO BE A BROWNS FAN MY GUY.... SHOW ME A DIME A DOZEN JA'MARR CHASES AVAILABLE RIGHT NOW
If you can’t match your peers in other teams with these big time contracts please sell the team. I’m so done with this Great Value Jerry Jones ownership group.
His price will be a whole lot higher if he lights up Chiefs Sunday.
Why does James think that *when* the guarantees kick in is such a trivial matter? Would he like to front the Bengals the cash to make it work?
Is this more a concern from the Bengals side after what's happening with Burrow? Afraid of a potential career impacting injury like Joe's wrist?
I don't think it's something that small.
So ultimately the deal fell through because one side wanted the guarantees sooner??? Come on Bengals, sometimes you have to bite the bullet and make it work...We are in an age where most of us live off of credit cards and debt and how to handle it. Kudos to the Bengals for wanting to stick to their guns, but this is possibly an exception to what you usually do because of circumstances. And you broke the trend already with the contracts in 2020-2022, including Burrow.
This is really feeling like a person that has been finacially responsible for their entire lives, and built as much credit that you more than likely can apply for a credit card and know they will get, but now that they have that good credit, they arw wary to evwn use it. Strange way to see it, I know. That is just how I see it though.
No its not. He is under contract. They don't have to extend him at all. They are doing hkm a favor. Pkus they are guaranteeing 90 million when they don't have too. Then he wants it all up front? F him.
This is burrow fault everyone. The greatest QBs, inlcuding mahomes, take a pay cut to keep their weapons!! Burrow signed a huge deal, which the team cannot afford higgins, jamar or the bonehead rb in houston now. Thats means they have 2 years left to try and get SB while jamar still on contract. Thats the window!!
Looks like March or early April for the Chase extension.
No chance. This will drag into late july/august of 2025
The bengals are a mess. You trade mixon and have no running game. By the way mixon went off for 159 yards. Let reader walk and got destroyed by patriots running game. Didn’t trade Higgins knowing they were not going to sign him long term, now he’s silently quitting on the team. No deal for Chase and he is not trying to. The offensive coordinator is a disaster. Lost season
What guarantees does the team and the fans have that Jamar won’t get hurt?
I have Chase fatigue. He's not worth the distraction he's creating. Chase is not a team player. He sat out his last year at LSU. Bengals could have drafted Devonta Smith but selected this.clown.
If i was guessing and what I've seen from the history of bengals dealing they want be forced bye no player to make a deal unless your Joe borrow next i say Jamar is wanting more than J Jefferson why does he deserve more why does the next man up think he must get a bigger deal than the Last it must stop take the best players in the league and base everything off their contacts if Jefferson is the no1 wr in all NFL well why should Jamar make more their must be a CEILING & floor
#BungleLife
Because they want to wait and once the market moves up they will be stuck with some crazy figures. Just doesnt make sense whatever deal you give him wont hit for 2 years why have a pissed off wr that will be pissed off and probably will just show up for work but no produce. Its crazy that they dont wanna guarantee the 90 million but we guarantee Burrow who has been hurt about what three years thats crazy chase has given everything that you ask for in a wr even injured he put up what most wr just average
I wouldn’t pay him an additional dime unless he’s single-handedly carrying the team…which he is not.
You know Paul Brown stadium is 24 years old why isn't it paid for the Tax payers are paying for it and own it ................
@daviddunn773 Can average fans even attend a game at the stadium they pay taxes for? I don't think Chase will live up to a new contract...pay him at your own risk. He about ready to fall off the cliff when he gets paid...his character tells you that.
The Bengals are a goofy organization, that's why they haven't won anything for almost a century and has a chief fan I love it.
Chiefs are the same way lol
Yeah chirfs told hilll to go F himself. It sure cost them. No they are a team unlike tht selfish Bengals
@@JordanT3025 the chiefs are a win nothing organization like the Bengals?I forgot the Bengals don't even no what a super bowl trophy looks like in real life.
Let this man go. He’s such an awesome talent but terrible attitude. Pay Tee and trade Chase for a couple 1st rounders. If this guy was a team player I’d be all about paying him but he’s an all about me player. Let him go
So you wanna hinge your bets on Tee who didnt want a franchise tag? 😂😂 ur a smart one
@@frankystrings how can we afford to pay him and Joe?? We will have no one else? You’ve got to rely on rookies nowadays. These players want too much money. Tee doesn’t bring the drama that Chase brings. Dude is a diva. We don’t need that. Pay Tee and let’s move on.
@user-fr3zu5tr9d bohoo pay chase and figure out how to draft well.. and on top of that ur gonna bank on Tee who was been hurt 25% of possible games. You just butthurt chase wanna get paid. So pay him. And hope for the best.
The reason why you don't kick gareentees in sooner is the problem the browns have. A shitty player who they can't cut for 3 years. What if Jamar gets hurt amd never comes back strong. Or just starts sucking
Just split the years and the money. Easy compromise!
Cause we broke
Bengals don't have the escape to pay now their not a jerry jones who had back up easy to spend money when it's not yours. We can't spend other people's money
THEY GOTTA DO BETTER MAN GET IT DONE
Do you even know how cap space works? They'd be scraping to field a competitive team if they're paying Burrow over 50 and Chase over 35.
@@shawnsimmons4718 DO YOU KNOW HOW TO LISTEN TO THIS VIDEO.... CAP SPACE GOT NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ISSUE OF WHY HE DIDNT SIGN...
It’s because they only wanted to guarantee $30 m rather than the 88 mand 90 m that CD and JJ got
It is 90 just not for a couple years. It happens in all sports
What exactly does fully vested mean?
vested = guaranteed. Doesn't become guaranteed until 2027.
@@BengalsTalk So if he gets injured godforbid before 2027 he isn't guaranteed that money? That's a whole 3 years away
Bengals fans, the rams offer 2 first rounders for jamarr yall taking it? -(Delusional rams fan)
Sad. Totally Bengals.
James YOU really need to STOP talking about MONEY and injuries to the players. I don't care if you do it here that's fine BUT DONT BE DISTRACTING THIS TEAM ANYMORE!!!! YOU and ADAM SCHEFTER cost us the last game man!!!! THINK about what you say to these players!!!!! I guarantee Burrow went into this game worried about the first hit because of all the media questions about his wrist... SAME with Chase You asking other players about his money man GET WITH IT BUD!!! WHY WHY WHY YES WHY is it any of your business to ask other players about other players money!!!! STOP!!!!!! YOU ARE messing with this team MAN realize that!!!
Because he's a greedy fool, says alot of his character. That's a lot of money. Sports are disappointing nowadays.
This is dumb, they should've just got it done
According to CNBC... Bengals revenue for 2024
$546M!!!
Seems like we the fans are getting robbed! Hamilton county also!
What was their net profit from that? Now list ALL of the Bengals expenditures
Including the $40 M and $70Million they paid Burrow in the last year and any other signing bonuses or other payments made on contracts beyond this year.
Coaches, Staff, operating costs, current players medical & benefits beyond contracts, retired players medical, renovations, etc...
@@bengalsfandom623
I did the calculations. The Cincinnati Bengals' net earnings: $34,767.98
Mike Brown and family salaries: $198,678,231.97
Granted money