Why the 650 is better than the 600 ZX6R ninja
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2nd week with my '07 650r. New rider. Taught myself with youtube videos. 1st day was to scared to come out of 1st. 2nd day got up to 3rd. By day four i was doing 80 with the biggest smile on my face ever. I dropped her back down to 3rd and got my wits about myself. But not before screaming yeaaaaaaa and woohoooo😅 definitely been enjoying it. Gets over 50mpg also i think. Perfect starter bike in my opinion but i also know how to drive a stickshift car so im sure that helped with understanding how the clutch works
Well done on the self learning but please get real training that's focused on you. A genuine instructor who rides with you and observes you will see what you're getting right getting wrong and what you need to do to be a better.
Do you do your life saver over shoulder in time?
Lane positioning.
Turning.
U turns.
Dominate your lane.
Mirror checks.
Your observations and forward looking, and far forward looking. Calling out what you see.
It just seems nuts to us in Europe that Americans can legally ride a motorbike on the road that they don't know how to ride. Do you even have a 1 day basic training road course? That has to be completed here before we can ride on the road. Basic controls, and then basic road riding. Not an actual motorbike licence test, this is CBT compulsory basic training is just to enable your learner licence.
I bought a 2007 ninja 650r for my first bike. It’s been about 5 months and still lovin it. Can’t beat it for 1900 bucks.
bro how so cheap
That’s what I’m saying wth
Bought my 2020 in December of 2023. 2300 miles, original owner, garage kept. $6,000 cash. Already with exhaust, $900 upgrade.
I bought a 2008 ninja 650R for 2k just last month. Holy smokes how much fun!!
Im still having great fun with this same bike today 2021. Love the low rev sounds. Pulls really well off the mark too. 👍🏻
how much you bought it for?
Just depends what you'll use them for a super-sport is only fun on the track or incredibly twisty roads and can be very boring to ride at whatever the speed limit is. But if your using the bike for anything else get the 650 it's a much better daily.
Ninja 650s are the absolute perfect starter bike, I learned to ride on a shadow 750 I loved it but it was a little difficult to learn on because of the weight, moved onto the ninja 650 and after a year of having it I’m starting to look at something a little quicker. Blast to ride, pops wheelies, great in corners, quick for what it is, and super maneuver able like sean was saying. Even if I do get another bike (hopefully an r6 or cbr600 but open to suggestions from yall) I’m keeping my ninja 650 never had more fun, and most of my friends who started on faster and bigger 600s and nakeds still can’t keep up in the corners.
I bought my 2008 650r in this same color scheme last summer, except mine has the matching red wheels. It been a great bike so far. I have 6 years of riding experience and I still went with this because I wanted the sporty look and feel without the uncomfortable seating position on a super sport. It's more than enough power to have fun with on the road and handles well. I rode a super sport one time. My back and wrists were hurting less than 10 minutes into the ride.
you can die on a 650r just fine. i love that the power is down low in the rpms, its more fun and more comfortable...i have had a vmax, zx11, zx12, R1, fz1....but i kept the 650r.....definitely not just a beginner bike, i been riding for over 40 years and i like the 650r the best. thats why i still own it.
Yea. People have no clue. I have 08 650r and it goes to 60 in 3.5 seconds. And I can ride all day everyday. That's super bike numbers with rider comfortability. Def under rated.
@@earthelucidator How true it is-you gun that throttle when the light turns green and that ninja650 takes off extremely well-best be holding on tight.
I've been riding my 2006 650R, exactly the same colors as yours, since 2012. It's been across the country several times and is totally rideable for 12-14 hours a day with no discomfort. It's a great sport tourer/commuter and is a lot of fun on the track as well. Now that mine is getting up there in age I'm going to replace it with a new mile eater and turn the 650R into a dedicated track bike. They race these in the lightweight twins class on the Isle of Man and they're way faster than my skill can keep up with.
I learned a lot about bikes watching your videos thanks bro!
If you think of the 650 class as the equivalent of a hot hatch then the car analogy works quite well. They're still fast, but not totally overwhelming for beginners.
fwd is garbage while ninja 650 are legit bikes
@@ragimundvonwallat8961 but the analogue still holds true.
I just bought this identical bike today and so far I couldn’t be happier
I got the same bike but silver and gold , I’mma new rider , awesome video , salute from Ottawa Canada 🇨🇦 👍👊🏼
One of the best ways to get someones outlook on you to change for the better is to ask them to teach you things. It makes them invest in you and they want you to succeed
I bought that exact model color new in 2006. Very comfy. Very flickable. Very fun. On the highway the wind protection wasn't great. I had the factory touring screen on it and after 150 miles my shoulders and neck were sore. I am 6'2" though. Enter 2020 and I found myself trading in my 2011 Ninja 1000 in on my 2020 Ninja 650 KRT ABS! MUCH BETTER! I bought the factory touring windscreen for this and it's all day fun! I commute 50 miles a day and never look back at my 1000. It's just more comfy and much more fun overall. Highly recommend the Hindle full exhaust for the 2017 and newer models. It's LOUD! Like straight pipe loud! Like Harley riders look over and have a WTF look on their faces loud. I actually bought the suppressor for it! But I still want a ZX14 R!!! Hook me up!
I've got a 09 650 and he's exactly right. Off the line Im ahead of my friends on liter bikes to about 60 mph. But when it comes to the twisties, I just wait for them at the top of the canyon. I did drop a tooth on the front for a little more low end. Perfect bike. 130 top speed after gearing is plenty for the streets.
Great advice! Would you recommend this as a first bike? As long as I have good self control?
@@kaecee7203 Edit: 100% great for beginners
This is my second, first was a 2008 ninja 500 that was a pile of trash off Craigslist for $1500 that ran like junk. I just got mine, a 2012 ninja 650 10.8k miles, I haven't ridden for a year and before that was only like 2 months but I feel great on it and I'm taking it slow woth driving and not speeding as much as I do in my car
I love it it's my third bike that is a motorcycle on road bike riding my whole life 20 out of 30 years but I don't think I need any more power than the 650r
I don't recommend this to someone entry-level that it literally entry-level first bike I think the 300 it's smarter if you've never ridden a bike and you get on one of these I think you would kill yourself
Awesome video keep it up definitely following 👍 I just bought a 2007 650 I started off with a 97 gsxr 600 then went to a 2003 r6 then went to a 2003 yzf600r and now just bought the 2007 Ninja 650 and love it way more then the rest
part of the reason why I've never sold my 07 650r, I've ridden a number of bikes but the 650r's just so agile in the corners. owned mine since 09 and have put 50k miles one it.
@@robbalinski1606
Wow, thinking on getting one, and you sold it to me. Thanks
Just looked on your site. Not looking to buy until next year though. 650’s don’t really look sporty enough for me but I think it’ll be a good start. Gonna keep an eye on your site ❤️
I don't think there can be enough emphasis on throttle and clutch handling. Complete and absolute respect for the bike is key.
All of the people saying 650's aren't that fast are either making stuff up or have never ridden one properly. The throttle isn't a short travel throttle like a 636 or other supersport, you have to really twist it to go full throttle. If you just give it a light twist it will not accelerate hard. However, at legal speeds, the 650 is every bit as fast and is actually faster off the line, largely due to the gearing and powerband. Don't take my word for it, look up the 636 on this channel and you'll see it basically bogs its way to 60 mph in 1st gear meanwhile the 650 rips through 1st and 2nd and when you factor in the half second or so for the gearshift you'll realize you're actually pulling harder in the 650 than possibly even some liter bikes. If you're not trying to get yourself killed or put in jail from ridiculous speeding on public roads or riding very long/fast racetracks, the 650 is really the better bike. I think there's just a lot of benchracing sportbike riders that have never gone full throttle on any fast bike and want to pretend they did.
As someone who just went from a Ninja 650 to a 636 supersport, I can say the Ninja 650 is absolutely 100% an awesome bike. I rode it until I was maxing it out and outgrew it. As that same person, who now rides a 636, I can also say it is absolutely 100% NOT as fast as the 636 LOL. Not even in the same league.. not trashing the 650. Great bike. Comparing the two in a competitive riding scenario is just silly though.
@@morrisonn5781 *at legal speeds.
Yes, once you get to "arrest me" speeds, the 636 will be faster. But around town, power-whenever-you-want-it-at-any-RPM, the 650 wins.
NunyaBusiness I am 5’7” 150lbs about to be 140lbs soon. I think my 72hp 53mpg 449lb 2011 ninja 650R is perfect. I’ve never been on a 4 cylinder yet but I don’t think I’ll ever get one because it just seems like too much bike for me. If I was 6ft 200lbs I’d be saying different. Perhaps that is the reason for the difference of opinions. Different sized guys have different preferences and experiences trying out the same engine.
@@robertp9370 I'm actually pretty close to those specs and it's still a rocketship of a bike. On a track I could definitely see a 600 4-cyl being the better choice, but on the streets there is no way I'd choose one over the 650 twin. I guarantee most people are just not realizing the throttle has longer travel or are doing something else wrong. Motorcycles have a really low cost barrier to entry so you get a lot of idiots in it that really don't understand how anything works.
NunyaBusiness you know what, you make a really good point about the throttle being different on both bikes. And the half second shift. Both of those are factors to why the 650R is probably just as fast at legal speeds as the zx6r. Very good points. Oh and the low barrier to entry point as well, people probably aren’t as analytical as us to be able to see how valuable 650s are to the right rider to achieve an equivalent performance at legal speeds not to mention at a much lower cost and risk. It’s perfect. And the more weight I lose the more of a rocket ship this thing becomes good god it is as fast as a zx6r at legal speeds but nobody seems to understand that this bike has the same amount of smile inducing torque. That’s right, both have 66nm of torque which means the 650R pulls just as hard with 2 cylinders than the zx6r with 4, [at legal speeds] the only drawback is the fact that you have to shift into second sooner and is the only reason other than someone not knowing how to twist the throttle enough that the 0-60 time might be slower. And it is hands down wayyy more comfortable to ride, gets up to 25% better fuel economy, costs 30-50% less used, and corners and rips through twisties in a way a zx6r never could. It’s overall a way more superior bike!!! At least in my opinion unless your that guy who wants to go 150mph all the time.
Words of wisdom are always the best bro
Started and learned on this (z650 but same thing) to the zx6r and i couldnt be happier. I love my 600cc supersport hehe
Jaymizzyfoshizzy Mo funny I hated mine for in town riding... waste of money
@@doylee469 my 06 zx10 gets around town just fine.
Had to say hi and let ya know I knew I would never have the cash for a Harley again so watched like a ton of your vids and had a 650r stuck in my head for some reason.Well I got one bud and back on two's for the first time in 4yrs at 50yrs old in Sept. (NEVER TOO OLD!) May need to hit a gym after getting her though but just love it and yes it may need back lights and a few things here an there cause someone dropped it befor I paid $1100 for it. 2007,but dang it sure is fun to ride.Still have to put in my name and get legal on tags and such but bikes there my friend! Got a title too for it so cant wait to get off my street but just had to share.Love watching everyday and nothing like a word of prayer to make my day so from one old biker turned sport biker kinda rubber side down my friend!
I feel like, if ur YOUNG and starting out how to ride then yes start out on a less powerful bike. But if you have any kind of self control then you can ride whatever you want. Be responsible and fight the temptation to go max throttle every ride and you will be perfectly fine. I feel like it’s the 16-20 demographic that creates that stigma because honestly 90% of them want a super sport to go bananas on and they are not ready for that kind of power. Even if mature you won’t be ready but you will be smart enough to take it easy and slowly learn the bike the right way
Statistically it's young riders and old riders who haven't ridden for years who are most at risk.
Got a 2010 er6f as my first bike (passed full license just under 2 weeks ago).. super comfortable, done just over 1k miles allready and haven't got any aches or pains from long rides.. love the bike will be sad day when I eventually swap for a 1000cc. Definitely recommended for anyone going from 125's to 650s
650 is good and comfortable, but it also sounds boring. I will fall asleep on it.
It's 0-60 is 3.3 seconds. I own the 2018 one with an after market exhaust and I ride with my mate who's on an r6, I keep up with him no problem. He obviously only really fades away if the speed is above 125mph but then again, we live in Britain and its tough to go above 125mph for more than couple of seconds unless you have some amazing spots.
@@xXxPaRk0uRxXx Your friend isn't going full out then. I test drove a 18 650r and a 18 z900 back to back and the 650r felt like a Geo Metro. The r6 will do like mid high 11s in the 1/4, the 650r does like high 13s low 14s, and the Z900 I ended up buying ran a 10.9 stock and a 10.4 with quick shifter and a power commander. I'm not shitting on the 650r, it's a good first or second bike and it's fun but it won't hold it's own against a SS 600 or bigger.
Josh A 0-100 it will keep up but after that it will eat dust
@@Tiralful I bet the 650 you drove was a restricted model or you were doing something wrong like not actually twisting the grip fully (it has a wider travel range than supersport bikes, you gotta kind of wind forward before pulling back to go full throttle, it's like this so you aren't accidentally popping wheelies all the time when riding around town). Ninja 650 at full power is 0-60 in 3.5 seconds and 1/4 mile in 12 seconds, this comes from numerous benchmark sources. The 650 is actually faster off the line than supersports, too, due to gearing and the powerband. I've driven a Ferrari 458 which does 0-60 in about 3 seconds and 1/4 mile in 11 seconds and the Ninja 650 is every bit as fast if you drive it right.
Josh A lol no. I have a 650 as do many friends. It’s a very low 12s or high 11s bike compared to low 11s in a 600. Still a difference but 0-100 is gonna be somewhat close due to gearing. After 100 the 650 gearing seems to be really bad. I have a Bazzaz tuner with full exhaust and I have no problem keeping up with 600s. Hard to pop a wheelie with clutch ups though
Just picked up a 2006 650 the other day as a second/spare bike. Enjoying every bit of it
I started on a 2007 ninja650 last year and it’s been a great bike. They’re also cheap picked it up for $1900.
Thank you for this important, valuable, and life saving information Shawn. They tried to get me on a 636 and BOSS. I’m new.
Picked one of these up just wanting a commuter and it is brilliant only cost me $1700au and is soo much fun and nimble after leaving my cb1300 behind in NZ. The power band is really good for something that doesn't look outstanding on paper. I had to change my riding lines a bit because it turns in so well for a bike with minimal suspension adjustment.
I'm from Los Angeles CA. And this helped me a lot with my 09 N650R purchase..
Write it on your eye lids and on your door posts, i respect it brother, much love.
It's a good beginner bike. It's plenty fast, especially the newer ones but I still much rather prefer an inline 4. Love my 06 ZZR, wouldn't want to go back to a 2cyl bike but I do miss the comfort of the Ninja 650
I was in the same boat, I bought a new Z900. Less agressive then a SS so it's comfortable, only weighs 450lbs, 125hp 75tq it does sub 3 0-60 and mine did 10.4 in the quarter with a quick shifter.
Nice review. I've had various bikes from 125 - 800. My last bike was a little Duke 200 and I actually really enjoyed it right up until a van wiped it out. I was thinking about a ninja 250 next for another small fun bike but now I'm set on an Er6f, hoping to get a bright green one so there's less chance of someone else not seeing it.
If I buy a bike from a dealership, you guys are the 1st on my list! Good honest clean reviews of your bikes. Great advice as well, nice work.
+Quincy Allen thanks I appreciate it
only problem is, they are way over priced
I bought a 2017 650 for my first bike. No regrets.
Same just got my 18’650 loving it . I am honestly thinking of getting a gxr600 tho for the exhaust note 😭
I have a er6n 2015 and could not agree with you more man. Very easy to ride and more than quick enough. I have no problem keeping you with mates who are more expeirenced and have much bigger bikes.
I bought one just like this brand new in 2006. Took it to the track and raced it. I am still racing them to this day!
I personally have an r6 but still an I4 and I honestly love the I4s and the power thay comes with them. It would be hard to go from a 4 cylinder to a 2 once you've been on it
Ride a Ducati and try to say this again.
@@B0ltSp33dMaN the only fast ducatis are 4 cylinders💀
😂😂 at 1:50...lol...b.c I hear the bug hit you., I could almost feel your pain., ..which made it more funny..lol...
I totally agree with you 100%.especially if you are a beginner, or if you're going to Daly Drive the motorcycle. The 650r Ninja is really a great bike for anyone if you're going to Daly drive it especially if you're going to be driving around the city or neighborhoods it's got plenty of torque it's still got plenty of power and it does good in the twisty still it's fun I just yesterday went down the freeway with a passenger on the back and it was like 20 mi an hour traffic in Oregon here and I did 142 hold time down there just riding between the cars and my buddy filmed it so you can still have plenty of fun on that bike and it does awesome in the twisties and you know it'll get up there enough to make you have fun on a Stihl it's just not as fast as r6r, but plenty of power to have fun with.I have been riding pretty much my whole life since I was six years old and I'm 46 now I have loaned many bikes right now I have my r6r that I only ride on the track and I love it it's the best track bike there is I believe besides the 700 rotary CW but I can't afford $120,000, LOL. I also own a 1050 Sprint ST and that has tons of torque and Power, but I never get to use it because
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I prefer the ZZR600! True a new driver should be in a V-Twin like this. I had the Honda hawk. It is a great option. But from there the ZZR600.
I have one of these ex650r
I Geared the sprockets for low-end speed and I ride in the city also I added the arrow exhaust and some other modz Quick bike now... Enjoy the Riding experience!
I have this very model and I love it. It's great on winding roads. It's reliable, comfortable and surprisingly fast.
How many cc is ??400
@@syedabuzar3593 650cc.
@@Robbie63 waow.......great
He couldn't avoid the wrath of that bug. LOL
Love the words of wisdom!! And great job on the reviews!
Why the 650 is better... AS a beginner bike. It's a good bike, I've had one. Loved it as a starter bike and commuter it is no where near a sport bike. I love it around town, hate it over 65mph on anything other than straight roads.
it is most definitely a sport bike. It's just not a super sport
I have the same exact bike and it’s really amazing and it’s really quick to be a 650
In Europe it's called er6f
650 is better in confort and economic and power not bad
I had a 2012 ex650 and I had friends who had our ones and Triumph Speed Triple and stuff like that and out on the highways and Roads riding around when we start to having a little fun they're supposedly much faster bikes could not get away from me this bike is a bike that's capable of doing about 130 miles an hour and unless you're talking about doing track days or being on a nice big open Highway this bike is just as capable as any other bike but is more forgiving and more Nimble meaning that if you are a skilled rider and you know what you're doing as far as shifting and how to control the power on this bike even if the other person is on a much faster bike they still can't get away from you if they do not have the skill to back it up you could have a friend who is on an R6 and you could be on an R3 and if the friend on the R6 is not a good writer but you are most likely if you're in anything but a nice open straight away you're going to keep up with the much bigger are 6 on an R3 and probably even surpassed the person on the R6 when you were talking about bikes that are capable of hitting triple-digit speeds especially for most people in most writing situations it primarily comes down to skill not the bike you're on how much power has or how fast it is to give you an example I've been writing for many years I started out as a little kid on a dirt bike and because I have the writing skill level there it took me only about 6 months to get bored with my 2016 Ducati Monster 821 because it was not as light in nipple is my 2012 ex650 that I traded in for it now I have switched to a 2014 Suzuki Burgman 400 and I enjoy that bike much more than I enjoy that 2016 Ducati Monster eat too when I had because my general writing situation doesn't even allow me to go fast enough to even get the monster up into 6 gear versus the Burgman which is a lot funner at slower speeds because of the different type of animal it is also another prime example is all of my friends who were on bigger faster bikes that had more horsepower and better top speeds in my Ninja 650 most of those guys those six hundred and thousand CC Sport Bikes were their first bikes and they were still getting used to them where is that was not my first bike to 6:50 and I got used to handling a street bike really quickly because I rode Street sport bikes having gone from dirt bikes out in fields and on dirt roads so going from dirt bikes to street bikes was not a massive changing point for me I was already pretty used to being able to do a lot of the things that I do but the buddy of mine who had the Triumph Speed Triple actually it's a Triumph Daytona which is an even faster bike because he got that as his first bike and wrote it around a while he ended up getting into a motorcycle accident and dying and if he was a more skilled writer or on a smaller more forgiving more agile bike than a Triumph Daytona he probably would have been able to make the accent a lot worse or avoid it altogether going out and buying like an R6 for your first motorcycle especially if you have virtually no experience riding motorcycles is a dumb idea you don't have the skill there to be a good rider but you ride your bike around and you get used to it and then you think you have enough skill like my buddy on his R6 thought he was Rossi was riding through a curvy industrial area over near his house with a speed limit of 40 miles an hour doing about a hundred miles an hour went down on his bike luckily only screwed his knee up primarily just road rash didn't cause too much damage to his bike but I got used to his bike and thought that he had the skill to do that when he didn't and because he did not have the skill he did not have the knowledge he needed to be able to react properly being on a 2011 R6 which is a much less forgiving bike than he should have been on but unlike me he is on the R6 for many many years since 2015 and since 2015 the Suzuki Burgman 400 is my V motorcycle because I've kept changing it up thinking I want something different when realistically I just should have stuck in the 600cc sport class / 650 CC Sport class bikes for new writers who are just getting their license who don't have experience riding dirt bikes and their experience and titles taking the writing course that allowed them to get their motorcycle license I would not suggest going with something like a 125 CC Honda Grom or z125 or even a scooter I would suggest getting onto a three or four or even 500cc sport or cruiser bike riding that for a season and then moving on to the bigger class 600 and 650 CC sport bikes riding that for a season or two and then moving on to whatever other bike you want unless you are happy with the bike you have one year on a CBR 300 or 250 or a Ninja 250 or 300 and then switching to like a 650 CC sportbike which is going to be a 2 cylinder versus a four cylinder it's going to have a much more forgiving power bands and power delivery would be a great idea for somebody and if you were thinking about trading in that 650 bike of yours I would definitely see about arranging for an extended two or three night test ride of the bike you are thinking about buying before actually pulling the trigger and getting the bike because long-term you're going to find that you want the power acceleration and top speed of the 650 but you also want the maneuverability and ease of writing of the three for 500cc bikes which the 6:50 class bikes will give you that as well the 650cc bikes are a good mix of Both Worlds they have enough performance and torque to satisfy the experience writers who are used too much bigger bikes but they are easy enough to ride in maneuverable enough and forgiving enough to deal with and put up with the inexperienced writers who are coming off of their small 250 and 300 CC motorcycles on to the bigger class bikes I've had my Burgman for only a few weeks now and now I'm kind of wishing that I would have gone ahead and got another Ninja 650 or a CBR 650 instead of getting the Burgman but I am still happy with my 2014 Burgman 400 but trust me there are times that I wish that I had the top speed of the 6:50 or 600 class bikes and the performance of the 650 and 600 class bikes but I still do enjoy my Burgman 400 despite the limited performance that has compared to the bikes I just got out of writing and for those of you who or new writers and used to scooters in are going from a hundred and 50 cc or 125cc to a bigger bike the 400 r good bikes it is a Highway capable bike still and I can Cruise it down the highway at 75 even 85 miles an hour if I want but it is way more fun or riding it around town at 45 miles an hour versus writing my big 800cc sport bike at 45 miles an hour which feels like nothing on that thing but if I was on a 650cc sportbike I don't think I would have been disappointed I know for a fact it still would have been fun to ride even at the lower speeds my 2012 ex650 was capable of getting up into 6th Gear and going six gear to the end of its power band in six gear from 45 miles an hour all the way to 130 miles an hour and it was comfortable in six gear at speeds as low as 42 miles an hour shifting into 6th Gear and 45 for cruising in six gear where is the Ducati Monster if you weren't doing at least 58 miles an hour it hated you going into 6th Gear my suggestion to you is if you have a lot of friends who ride instead of buying yourself a bigger bike like an R6 or a big thousand CC Sport bike get yourself a 600cc sportbike well like an R6 or 650 all of the R6 is a lot less forgiving or CBR600RR or 600RR and get yourself a 650cc sportbike and just do bike swaps every now and then with your friend and ride your friends bike around maybe even do bike swaps for like a week at a time with your friend or be the person who your friends stores they're bigger less forgiving sportbike at your house when they go out of town and write it around when you are watching it for them and use that writing experience to help you make a more educated decision on whether or not you want to sell your bike that is forgiving but yet still quick and fun and agile and nimble for a bike more like there's.
I have a 2017 ninja 650 that Ive road had a very good understanding of it but I know people that started on a 6r I've been debating if I should go to a 6r or a 10r I really really want a 10r but is the power really that different between the 650 and the 6r that I couldn't just size up to the 10? I know people say that you'll never really use all the power or they're too scary all that kind of stuff but I feel like it's just a mental thing if you have the mental capacity to be smart and not be stupid on the bike you could drive anything but I guess just asking a bunch of strangers online their opinion
It’s better to have something and not need it than need something and not have it. Times where ive been road raged or others around me have been. Other times too where I just wanted the ability to get away faster. The zx-10r has more power to do that than the 6😊
im from ohio. i didnt even know you guys are located in pa. im gonna have to come meet you guys sometime. love the content you guys put out❤️
It does power wheelies in first gear 2 which was very surprising
I live my riding through you my man .
The first time I ever rode a street bike was a 98 Honda CBR 1100 xx. Horrible horrible bike to learn how to ride on. Love the bike now but when first starting out it was scary as hell
Oh another quirk of the Kawi 650 twin, you need to let up all the way on the shifter when downshifting or it won't keep downshifting, that shifter is fairly chunky (upside being it a really nice solid chunk when upshifting).
yeah, sometime it's annoying when you realize that you haven't released shifter all the way and it wont downshift :D
Liking the proverbs, and the bikes, do you have any 05 k5 gixxer 1000’s and zx1400?
My first bike was this very model of 650. I loved that bike despite the fact that learned to ride on my brother's cbr600.
Unfortunately some asshat hit me on an illegal turn and the bike was totaled. I really want to get another one of these.
I remember dreaming about getting one of these when I was in highschool since they were half what a 600 was at the time new
I started on a 650, then sold it because everyone told me I needed to learn on a 250r...and bought a 250r. Had a 250r for about 6 months, then upgraded to a CBR 600. Then upgraded to a Daytona 675.
I HATED riding on a litre bike, just wasn't for me at all (completely unnecessary for my purposes).
I think it truly depends on the person. The CBR 600RR was a very light nimble and easy to ride bike. It wasn't snappy untill you got into the 10k rpm range however that takes restraint and intelligent shifting/power band knowledge.
I totally can see someone who has ridden dirt bikes and understand shifting and clitch control to start on an R6 or CBR 600RR.
In some cases I think it's easier to get into trouble on a 650r, because the power band kicks in around 4500-5000 rpms. A quick flip of the wrist and you're popping wheelies on the 650r as all the power is in the lower mid range.
The 600s don't do that when you're rolling in 3k-5k rpms.
A complete beginner that has no idea how to shift or control the clutch has no business on any bike other than a 250-300cc bike.
@@hankeybillfred when was the last time you rode a 650r?
They are very torque heavy in the low to mid range and that's where the power band is. Of course you can wheelie from the acceleration of a 650 lol...
The Kawasaki Ninja 650R inline twin is basically a Modern version of the Kawasaki Kz650 inline twin I have a Kawasaki KZ750 LTD inline four cylinder I've been riding for years my first street bike was a Harley Davidson 1200 Sportster 25th anniversary My First Sports Bike was a Suzuki gsx600f sold it a few years ago and wanted another bike every since I came across a deal on my Kawasaki kz750 I couldn't pass up
I went from a 150 cc scooter to this bike. It's a great bike, I could see someone starting on it but I think it's ideal for someone coming from something smaller like a scooter or dirt bikes maybe. Someone brand new to riding might be better off with a ninja 300-400, especially if they are young.
this is my (official) first bike. Bought this & a Vulcan 500, planned to learn on Vulcan but only put a 100 miles on it before I hopped on my Ninja. Immediately lost interest in Vulcan 🤣 Ninja 650r handles VERY well!!
It’s a straight up beginners bike. Also really cheap. Found a 2007 650r for $1750
Bro i would buy a bike from You jus because you quoted proverbs 15 1. I have 2007 650 i want a zx14
How does this bike compare with something like the Ninja 400?
I was trying to say my r6r I can't even get out of second gear anywhere because it'll do 125 so all side does is begging me to squeeze the throttle everywhere I go and I can't do that you'll get arrested or in a wreck but that bike does not like to be ridden any other way if you are not between 9000 and 18000 RPMs it doesn't ride like it should it will never satisfy you or let you feel what it can actually do now for a track bike it's a total different story I believe it is the best Track by because if you keep it between 9000 and 18000 RPMs the bike just loves it, it is like after ten thousand RPMs the bike becomes possessed and just goes crazy, and it's the most satisfying 600 I've ever rode in my life when you get off that thing you'd have nothing but a smile on your face when you're at the track I don't care if you wrote it a thousand times before that on that track you get that same feeling every time that bike is badass on the track but it completely sucked on the street you can't get out of second gear and if you do you're going to be doing double triple the speed limit and no time if you even have any room to do it without getting arrested.now the 650r is totally perfect for me now it's the perfect height it's very very light and it does really nice in the corners actually and it does have plenty of power you know you can ride wheelies on it you can still do 140 and weave through traffic on your way home from work you know it's just not an R6 that's all there is no other or six though it lays the power down a lot more linear
Perfect Beginner Bike what you think about the 2022 Kawasaki Z900SR
good vid dude.. so honest. i miss my 650... nvr thought i needed more.. ok maybe just one that was more aggressive. but those bikes soooo not comfortable.. like wtf.. i dont want it feel like its made outta wood.. 135 fast enough.
I have a 2007 ZX6R and it doesn't IMO fall in the typical 600/750 high rev snap category. It actually behaves more like a liter bike and is often confused as a liter bike. When I tellpeople my ZX6R is a 6, their mouths drop, they do a walk around and then they ask me how much I am selling it for. My first motorcycle is/was a 2002 Suzuki GSXR 1000 no issues, no accidents, no drops, never laid a bike down.
Things that don't happen, or happened one time
He said “you can totally do wheelies 😏”
The motor sounds exactly like my Versys haha. Plenty of power at sea level, but this motor takes a fairly big hit at high elevation. My Versys doesn't like uphill headwinds at 5000+ ft (I live at 6000ft), still extremely flickable and great handling bike.
mrvwbug44 I also do and I'm looking into 650s and 600s but at 6000 feet uphill in utah will I be able to keep up?
Fun fact, the 650 and versys have the same exact engine. I never knew this until i started working at a mortorcycle dealership
Luckie 47 and the Z650, and the Vulcan 👍
2Wheeled Zombie learn something new everyday. Knew the z650 did. Never knew the vulcan was the same as well. We never had any come through
Raft is turned from love because good is so much more powerful than evil it's not even a contest, and it knows. But evil grows with evil.
I love my zx6r, but your 💯 percent right. 650 is a great learner bike 👍👍👍
more people need microphones like that
Quoting scripture? You got my sub!
It's the reason I'm not subbed
@@paulnolan6866, I’m sorry to hear that. I hope some day you will hear his voice.
@@3n1fss the voice of a made up idol from a cult? no thanks
@@paulnolan6866 same…
@@paulnolan6866 I'll be praying for you sir
I started on a 650R. Great bike, she was good to me. Now I ride a 03 YZF-R6. I'll never go back. Imo just for the scream of a inline-4 wins on that alone. TO ME
This dude is nuts I've have owned a 07 650 and currently own a 2000 zx6r and ain't no way the 650 is a better bike the zx6r isn't even on the same level he says the 650 is more comfortable no way zx6r is better in every aspect
My first bike was 1500 cc Vulcan iam deciding to buy a ninja 650 R 07 but I don’t know ,looks good !!
Lol at the title.
Love your videos 👍
Solid video!
i started on a cbr600rr ... but i used to ride dirtbikes
Nonetheless it is a great "first big bike" and also cheap to maintain, insure and economical to boot.
I love your channel ❤ Im a biker i own a 805 cc susuki intruder please aquire one and take it for a review
Love your videos... but for the love GOD please pause your talking as you start the bikes! We looove to hear the startups 👌🏻
great videos Sean, love it! just please be wary of clickbait-y titles
To each their own but I've owned both and I love the ZX-6R, yes the 650 is much more practical and comfortable and plenty of power for non-hooligan riding. But if you want a practical bike get a Versys or some other boring dad bike ;), if you want a real sport bike get a ZX-6R. But sure if you want the sport bike look with comfort and a more usable power band 650 is not a bad option, it is a solid bike and good for beginners, just a little uninspiring if you ask me. zx-6r sound, power, and feel are just so much more epic and is like the quintessential Ninja. but yeah 7 hours on the 650 no big deal, 3 hours on the zx6r and I can barely walk, not too mention it's hard to ride the zx6r responsibly in normal conditions when it's just a beast rearing to go :)
My main issue is that it sounds absolutely horrible.
Thanks man, God bless
Whats yalls dealership fees? Im interested in the 2006 ninja650r you have now and am trying to figure out what it would cost me out the door minus tags of course. The dealership i went to the other day wanted a 900 dealership fee making a 3k bike not even worth buying imo. I will be paying cash as i know most places have different prices for cash and for financing.
Hate to say it but 4 stroke parallel twins are rather boring, though reliable. The only 4 stroke twin that stirs my mustard has a V in its name and is preferably a litre bike.
ONE NEEDLE FOR THE RPM, ONE NEEDLE FOR THE SPEED....WAS IT SO MUCH MORE COMPLICATED? IS IT TOO MUCH TO STILL WANT 2 NEEDLES? it seem it is, the needle production price must have exploded...oh no right its just because they love to shovel ultra cheap electronic gauges that cost 55 cents in china and then tell us its hip and cool and dosent matter if you cant read em
Ragimund VonWallat You are totally correct my friend ,a needle speedo and tach are the best, one quick glance to check speed and revs. I rode a zx10 and hated the speedo ,you had to take your eyes off the road to long to read the speed.
@@interman7715 finally IM NOT ALONE THAT UNDERSTAND THAT!
This is the only video I’m gonna thumb down on for bikes and beards because you’re not doing a true comparison.. it’s a way outdated 650.. you didn’t try a 636 in it. So it’s just not a fair comparison in my view.. but I love you guys.
I couldn’t find it on the website. Did it really sell in a day?
Hey Hey!! i would like to purchase a bike, but prefer noisy and fast bike, not a boring bike that would make me to sleep. what is your advise?
Lingamba Mutemwa this one will be plenty
1:10 this is so true!!! They will be confused. People expect anger and fights when show love back against their hate, it confuses them.
Srkcycles the Kawasaki ninja 650 is more a sports touring bike like a Suzuki gsx600f katana is a sports touring bike
soooo i take it yall arent in business anymore? went to look at your online inventory and nothing
Lol my step dad was trying to talk me out of getting a first year 650r for my first bike and said I should get a zx6r instead (I’m 15) because last time he rode a 650 ninja it was really slow and he didn’t want me to start on a bike I’d get bored of, (he started on an 87 750 nighthawk s) I got the ninja 650 and he rode it and was happy, I guess he rode a ninja 500 instead of the 650, so makes sense why he thought it was slow lol
I bought a 650 in July and it's slow but was a good bike to learn on...I'm upgrading to a supersport
Yeah, thats what i was saying to other people in other comments.
Start at a zx6r. It isn't 1980. So much info in the world. You will get bored of a small bike fast.
As a commuter, this would be a good choice. 250s get like 50 or 60 per miles per gallon. But if you want to ride and have fun, start with a zx6r. Its literally called "entry level super sport" for a reason.
The zx6r was my first bike. Even with all this power, i still crave more. I woulda hated starting at a 250, or even this 650.
Never lost to any mustangs or any other car ever. So glad i made the choice to get a zx6r instead.
NinjaOnANinja man I just got a 2011 650R upgraded from a 2013 ninja 300. And the 650R is a night and day difference. It is freaking amazing. I’m only 5’7” 150lbs man and I wonder what a ZX6R would be like. Your comments intrigue me even more. I just worry If I upgrade it will be a sketchier ride, and I do love getting 50mpg and the stock dirt bike handlebars my 2011 650R has
@@robertp9370 i can shoot up to like 75 in first gear quick. I say "like" because i have needed a new front tire for a long time so i haven't pushed it lately. Also 6 foot 220 lbs. Still soars.
Point is, its kinda nuts lol i lose 15-20 mpg but those 30 i get are amazing. That power when you are on the freeway and you gotta make a pass, drop it 2 gears and you are GONE! The only thing that beats me or comes close is aftermarket performance cars or other supersport bikes.
But make sure to only push it so much because you kill the buzz and end up needing more. Its a drug man. Need my 1200 fix, having withdrawals xD
NinjaOnANinja wait what, is that the path I’m on????? Lol seriously do tell more... is this an itch that just keeps itching. Tell me what stage I’m at if I just upgraded to a 650R. What happens next.. what’s going to happen to me
NinjaOnANinja What year ZX6R do you have?