This Is Why They DON’T Make DOUBLE ENGINE Drag Bikes Anymore!
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- We take you to one of the most special motorcycle drag races and in existence, the 50th running of the Truett and Osborn Bike Drags from Kansas International Dragway, to see the amazing Top Fuel Harleys, Turbo Hayabusa and ZX14r drag bikes, and even these very special and rare double engine motorcycles and drag bikes. It’s a motorcycle drag racing fail as one of the double engine bikes blows up! We also catch up with event promoter Scott Truett and legendary drag racer Marion Owens to find out why legends like Elmer Trett once built double engine Harleys and why they are no longer produced.
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Great stuff! I grew up fascinated with the twin engine bikes. Loved watching T. C. Christenson with his Norton Hogslayer at Great Lakes Dragaway.
It's so amazing to see cycle racing history! There will never be a time like it again!!!
use to keep up with owens all the time in the magazines i read. use to think if he'd slim down a bit, he'd go even faster. was thinking about him the other day and wondered to myself 'maybe being heavier gave him better traction and actually made him faster.' good to see he's still kickin'.
Hog Power should be preserved in a museum, it's a work of art!
Great to see the old shovelheads still kicking ass. I myself am racing a FXS shovelhead
I was Marion Owens first fuel Harley pilot. Marion wrenched and I “drove” it. I think we were at the very first meet.
We heard ya the 1st time!!!🤣🤣🤣
So cool! Please tell me more!
@@milojanis4901 I don't get it.
@@cycledrag I remember that I ran 155.16 with a panhead engine. The track had a bump at the end and I was airborne for a while. What a ride!
I watched Marion Owen run at the Las Vegas un- nationals in about 77 or 78 ,He was a blaster ,I loved watching the doubles
LOVE this channel!!
I'm 62 and recovering from having my back rebuilt March 18. By spring I hope to be back on one the 2 bikes I have here at home,
1977 XS750 triple. Bagger. 1982XS 650 twin. Bobber
Bro Roy
I distinctly remember one of the biggest cycle magazines doing a drag shootout of the quickest production street bikes around 1970 when I was about 14. As I recall the bikes in the shootout were:
1). Honda CB750
2). Kawasaki 500 triple
3). Suzuki T500
4). Harley Davidson Sportster
5). Triumph 650 Bonneville
6). BSA 650 Lightning
As I recall the quickest bike was in high 12’s and the slowest in the low 14’s. I must have read that article a dozen times poring over every single spec and result!
Wouah ! 👍 I'm just amazed by your videos. These vintage drags are legends of drag racing, with men who worked with the means they had at the time to arrive at the advanced technologies that we know today! well done .
he came to Hawaii in the 80's and we hosted him for a 3 Island show. He raced his double against a blown injected Kawasaki.
How’d that turn out for him?
Marion Owens was amazing, and it was neat seeing him!
Legend! Thanks so much for watching. What are your thoughts on the Double Engine bikes? Would you ride one?
Nothing wrong with this focus, it's live at a track. Great video jack. That old kz was amazing
Thanks! I try! Thanks so much for watching. What are your thoughts on the Double Engine bikes? Would you ride one?
@@cycledrag they look seriously cool, but very uncomfortable 😂 yeah I'd have a go
Seen Marion Owens aka Big Mo and his twin engine
Shovel in the 80s at Palmdale and Phoenix. Lots of good racers that are no longer with us. Life’s been good to me.
I met Mr Owens in.... 76, 77 I think, I was 13 with my Uncle who raced Harley's.
My Uncle passed 5 years ago. It sure is great to see Mr. Owens, a man of men, a real gentleman. He took the time to talk to me and sign a shirt. I still have that shirt.
Marion came to Hawaii and we at KKBG FM covered the racing on 3 Islands with Roland Leong and Jim Dunn.
You have to give credit to Russ Collins who built the Sorcerer And ran it in the '80s twin engine Top Fuel four-cylinder engines
I love drag bikes, cars, trucks, spaceships, foot races, anything 1 on 1. Great channel,, glad I found it.
I was at Indy in 1996..Elmer Trett and Blaine Johnson lost at the same race..Elmer was a true pioneer of Fuel Dragbike..It was a sad drive home.
I met Marion Owens in the mid 90’s at Sacramento All Bike Drags 1996 I think It was. So that colour side still shot of Marion smoking tire and rolling off the throttle is one of mine from Sacramento all bike end of October 1996.
I was watching the race and I saw the photo and like yowwzer will ya look at that. Thanks for the great coverage of the history of the fathers Nitro Twin Harley’s.
Cheers
That was fun. I have a set of Truitt and Osborn flywheels in my 1969 XLCH. Thanks for the video.
Love to see the old shovel heads still kicking it 👍
Nice to see "Nitro" Schaun Schnathorst! Have a great daytona bike week Jack!
I helped wire up this Bike and it's never put out cold air only hot wires and fire it's a dragon of a bike 100% I wired this Bike 17 years ago about.
That was a hellava good bike racing weekend! We enthusiasts are lucky to have you out on the asphalt!
I apprecaite that !Thanks so much for watching. What are your thoughts on the Double Engine bikes? Would you ride one?
@@cycledrag I would like to say I would! My Springer is only in the 12’s it would be quite a different ride, on one of those nasty machines!
I meet Marion Owens at the HD Drags one of the nicest Guys you will ever meet He was real busy working for the next round I walked up and asked him for an Autograph He stopped in the middle of what he was doing took me in his trailer and gave me an Autographed picture that I treasure to this day
I watched Elmer Trett kick ass @ Atco in the early 90's
I was there with you! That's where I fell in love with the sport.
"Don't call it a comeback"
😂 😂 😂 😂 😂
LL Cool J! Lol. Thanks so much for watching. What are your thoughts on the Double Engine bikes? Would you ride one?
mr hill. mr. truitt, etc.. was able to see em all in the 70's, 80's. Oh dont forget larry back then too.
There used to be a hand full of triple engine bikes back in the day,Russ Collins with the triple Hondas,Christianson i think with triple Nortans,and even though it was a single engine you have to mention Elmer Trett,
Christianson ran a "double engined Norton", ( the Hogslayer) Elmer Trett ran a double engined Ironhead, and yeah, Russ Collin's nearly killed himself on the "Atchison, Topeka, and the Santa Fe", triple Honda. Those were the days !!
I stand corrected on Christianson's Nortan,but didn't Elmer ride the Terminal Vanline Kawasaki single ?Russ Collins also had The Sorcerer V8
How could I forget EJ Potter on the Widow maker
I'm sorry that was Bo Obrocha on the Terminal Vanlines Kaw.
I hope you come to ocean city bike week it's going to be awesome my first time there
Surprised to see a shovel and evo motor on the same frame.
I used to watch old Drag Racing as a kid at At OCIR raceway in Southern Cal.
Legendary spot! Thanks so much for watching. What are your thoughts on the Double Engine bikes? Would you ride one?
It was that Michigan Madman guy with the Jaguar car engine and later on a Chevy smallblock in a cycle frame that really kicked off high performance cycle dragracing for the masses and it should be noted that he had no clutch back then, direct drive baby - he got the back tyre spinning on a rear stand and kicked it out and then it was no turning back hell for leather
Twin engine NORTON was very successful... 😎
Was a guy called Tom Christenson i think. Bike was a double engined norton called 'Hogslayer'. Saw the bike in the late seventies at earls court motorcycle show in london
Really enjoyed the old bikes ,most excellent.
Great job Jack. Keep the videos coming.
Thanks so much for watching. What are your thoughts on the Double Engine bikes? Would you ride one?
@@cycledrag they're crazy
Awesome pass
9:05, what is that, 8 cylinder metric bike?
Which bike in this video is your favorite and why?
Does anyone remember Russ Collins and his Atcheson, Topeka, and Santa Fe?
As a kid in So. Cal,I remember seeing a triple engine Harley,Atchison,Topeka,and Santa
Fe. Epic!
I was told by friends that owned them that they stopped running them because they didn't pay any more than a single for winning a event. They used to get paid just to show up with a double in the late 60's early 70's when they were popular, just for the record the first doubles appeared in the late 50's not in the 70's lol At one time the money was a big to do and huge arguments ensued. Tom Gaff rode my single and Warren Custom Plating's double. lot of BS in this video but hey everyone's a shameless self promoter?
The bike with two twins and a shovelhead motor in the front would be fun to pimp at the metro cruise in Grand Rapids Mi. ❤️🇺🇸
It would turn some heads! Thanks so much for watching. What are your thoughts on the Double Engine bikes? Would you ride one?
@@cycledrag I like um. Kind of a nostalgic one off bike. And yea I’d ride one, in a minute. The kid saw this video, and said, dad that’s you all the way😁
23:30 is it really a quarter or an eightmile run?
In the early seventies there's a souped up 327 called the Bloody Mary we saw a race at Detroit Dragway 575 horsepower!
Where is it now?
@@cycledrag In a museum in Iowa? maybe, can't recall. The American Pickers bought two of them made of parts that Clyde built. Bloody May and The Widowmaker were owned by E J Potter a local MI farmer and racer.
Around 19:40, tracks closing. The track nearest me that has been open for decades recently closed, they're trying to turn the land into warehouses. So much development has happened here (S. FL) and the track land is in a good geographic location relative the shipping ports. I can't blame the owners for cashing out on their investment, but it sure does stink.
Hard to stay open with empty stands. Damn shame.
It would funny to see Ru Paul show up with a rainbow team, lol
It could happen!
I remember a day when a triple was what it took to show you had huge balls,and absolutely no common sense.
Long live the memory of:
TRETTS TRIPLE THREAT.
Fore sure. Tell me more about that bike please! Thanks so much for watching. What are your thoughts on the Double Engine bikes? Would you ride one?
This is amazing
COOL VIDEO!!
I am Norton fan
I know! My wires are crossed.
If 1972 was the first race and they raced every year…wouldn’t 2022 be the 50th year and the 51st race?
Back in Kansas... how do you like it there?
Most of it was beautiful. Where I stayed by the Witchita Airport was pretty rough. Not a great area.
There was a 1/8 th mile track south of lawton ok. (Faxon) and i remember Marion was there with his double nitro harley , that thing was a Beast. Sid pogue was there also with his pro stock Kawasaki , scary fast
What ever happened to Tater Gilmore and the Iron Horse?????
vary good...!
Awesome
190 cubic inches = over 3,100 cc . Sucks to be a connecting rod.
The Hog Slayer : Norton 810 x 3 killed many a harley dog in the day
NHRA banned them. Marion Owens was grandfathered in as an existing bike. Just no new ones after the ban.
Really? Tell me more about that?
@@cycledragAsk Marion, I can't find crap on it. But I know it to be true.
Interesting, the one "double engine" bike with an Evo and a Shovel!
Yes indeed. What do you make of that?
@@cycledrag go with what ya got? Dunno, just interesting!
I heard there were a few jokes about which engine was pushing or pulling the other one.
My brother bought a two motor 2 stroke from Paul Gast.
Thanks so much for watching. What are your thoughts on the Double Engine bikes? Would you ride one?
@@cycledrag yes I would.
In the 70 the hog slayer smoked Harley
I knew a man who built a 3 engined 2 stroke H2 750 drag bike in Australia. 2,250cc.
It was copied from one that ran in the USA back in 1980 - I think.
I posted links once on this channel for it but
they were deleted automatically in a few seconds.
No Jason Pridemore?
I have not seen him out in 3 years.
@@cycledrag wow.... thats a shame. He was really making progress
They "thought" that was the way to go ???? THAT 'WAS' the way to go !!!! Early 70's Doubles flat out buried the single engine fuel bikes ! They made enough more power that they offset the extra weight. When you were going as fast as you could go with a single, it was a way to go faster. You could supercharge, but the Harleys liked to blow up when you did that to them ! So the mighty Doubles reigned for several years. Everyone who was winning was running Doubles ! There were Double Sportsters, Double Shovel heads, Double Triumphs, Double Nortons, double everything ! And they all were running faster than any single engine pushrod motors ! Doubles were just plain BAD ASS !!
You can build the motors far bigger today than back then. Bigger cases, etc. For example Grandaddy Joe Smiths Double was 102 "er motors. Marion Owens ran 108"ers Elmer Trett ran two 96" ironhead Sportster motors, and was the first Harley into the 7 second bracket ! Parts are available now to build much 'bigger', and THAT my friend, is what happened to Doubles !! So when you say, " they thought" that was the way to go", you're not giving credit where it was due ! The Doubles were 'intimidating behemoths' in their day ! And they were a sight and sound to be remembered for the rest of your life ! Too bad you missed them! And they won one hell of a lot of races before their days were done ! Just ask "Grandaddy Joe Smith" !
If you're going to report on things, it's best to get your story down properly. Give credit where it's due, and remember the men and machines who busted their backs, Knuckles, and bank accounts to go faster in their day... They were men of renown... the "baddest MF'ers in the valley" ! And they inspired thousands of us to go faster, with our Street Fighters, and race track 'Diggers' ! I can't help wonderin'... what two 160 " motors on fuel would be like...... Color me gone....
Jake hate/love you. Mostly love
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You are correct traction compound is the propper name. I was using slang.
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Jack
What's up?
I'm glad the rider said i gave him hemp oil and it did do wonders, I'm using it as my brain got fried ECT I don't have a memory I think meeting those people who race n attend were probably won'derful towards me once I'm grateful tho I do have problems GOD Jesus said sorry your brains been fried
Russ Collins was the designer and rider of the only 3 engine top fuel drag bike. Not Elmer Trent.
Need new pavers
What do you mean?
A bunch of Harley junk!
Ты слишком много болтаешь..Больше снимай байки, а не сэлфи
What he's saying is 100% true though Mary
This is got to be the worst camera focus I've ever seen on a RUclips video and I've seen some bad ones
Try wathcing again. Maybe you got it super early before in finished processing?
Its all HARD LEY v or me
Twins are ignorant
I was Marion Owens first fuel Harley pilot. Marion wrenched and I “drove” it. I think we were at the very first meet.