Top 5 most and least self-sufficient regions in Victoria 3
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- Опубликовано: 2 июн 2024
- Not all regions are equal, but Greenland is terrible.
0:00 Intro
0:52 Regions that fail at the basics
11:02 More advanced goods
14:26 The less awful
19:52 Top 5 
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One thing that must be considered is that the Andes has, if I'm not wrong, -50% of construction efficiency and infrastructure in La Paz, the most populated place, because there they have both the Andes and Amazon effects, so it's pretty inviable to construct anything there, the Andes debuff itself is pretty significant
Very fair point!
And not even bonusses for minerals or wood. Just rubber in the amazon
In the latest beta both modifiers were removed from La Paz. Also the andes modifier was toned down to -10% construction, as it was too oppresive for the region.
@@besacciaesteban oh, this is good, one of the first gameplays that I tried was something like Peru-Bolivian thing but there's any way to that work out well, this change will make playing in the Andes viable.
Just like IRL , i would argue the debuff should be like 60% , the andes and the aamzon are compeltely fucking unviable, greates disgrace south america could ever get tbh.
Iberia kinda underrated, it starts off with pretty much every single resource except for rubber and dyes (easy to obtain through colonies).
Colonies do kind of beat the point of looking for a self-sufficient region ;) but Iberia is definitely one of the if not the best regions within Europe in terms of having a good amount of trade goods.
4:30 as an Italian Italy not having tobacco is really historically inaccurate: Tuscany produced a lot of tobacco in the XIX century, and still today there is a cigar made in Tuscany: in fact is called "Toscano"
Who knows if Paradox will fix this inaccuracy one day 😂
That's really cool to learn! I'm even reading now that within the EU you're still the #1 producer. So it would indeed be lovely if paradox fixed that.
non c'è neanche il riso, che in Italia viene coltivato dal 18esimo secolo, e il tè, che all'inizio del 900 era già prodotto in abbondanza, comunque il tè posso anche capirlo, però il riso non puoi non metterlo in Italia
@@LorEnzo-pk4hz Small correction: A variety of rice started being cultivated in 1839 after a priest stole a fuckton of seeds from the Philippines, but Nostrale rice was already grown in small quantities during the Roman Empire and production was already significant by the Renaissance.
non ho trovato nulla riguardo il riso durante l'Impero Romano, comunque ho trovato qualcosa sul riso durante il rinascimento e non lo sapevo, quindi grazie per la precisazione@@AnglosArentHuman
The same happens with opium in Iberia. The peninsula has so many wild poppies growing in the countryside that the crown had to enact laws against opium cultivation in the 19th century, but none of this resource is found in Europe as a whole. I understand that it is for reasons of balance, but there are further malus for the peninsula... There are mines in places where they shouldn't be, where other places have little or no extraction resources. And there is also the question of wood: almost no wood in Portugal or Spain while in places like Flanders or Angers it has +10. At this time there were forestry companies in both countries. Also, now that I remember, there are no modifiers for the entire peninsula (in 1.5 Navarra will have a modifier, finally) having 2 of the 10 most abundant rivers on the entire continent, is there no bonus for Ebro, Tajo or Guadalquivir? (How did the ships from America get to Seville then), there is no natural port for Lisbon? (a city literally founded on a natural harbor, that's why it's there). Iberia is deprecated in Vic 3.
Interested in hearing about your thoughts for the Baltic. Personally I think coal is so important that a little bit of sulfur and a little lead does not make up for having almost no coal compared to Russia and Dnieper
I mainly prioritized looking for a variety of resources first and the actual amounts second.
That said The Baltic is indeed not looking good, especially considering coal is going to be needed to get much out of the sulfur and lead that it has over Russia and Dnieper.
@@Qurasia Understandable yeah. Interesting finds for sure. Especially bc Andes has slightly smaller debuffs 1.5 onwards it might make going for Peru Bolivia early even stronger
Before watching I am guessing Indonesia and Central Africa are the most self-sufficient. They have access to all resources, including dyes, rubber and oil.
High five team guessing Indonesia. Central Africa does always seem to have what I need when I'm looking for places to colonize, Congo's lack of sulfur is unfortunate though.
@Qurasia dang, I forgot about that. I know they have decent coal and iron but I am not too certain as to the quantities.
After trying to form Arabia as Oman i must say that Arabia is a pretty awful region for self sufficiency. Especially for a home grown power when several key resources like iron and coal are simply locked up in 1 state, especially when that state is inside militarily stronger nations like Egypt and the Ottomans.
Atleast as far as trying to not cheap out and become a colony of Britain and then swing them at the Ottomans or using the crazy amount of resources in their market.
Some other things to consider for the "best region" is going to he state modifiers because the difference between a river giving +20 infrastructure and a mountain and a rainforest giving a combined -50% construction and -33% infrastructure is absolutely insane in the early game.
I would also consider a large population more of a benefit than a hindrance, atleast from the perspective of something who likes playing underdog nations that are constantly running out of people to work to continue gdp growth.
Of course ending up in full control of some regions while staying within them is indeed a bit unrealistic for most regions within the actual game, with Arabia as a great, but not the only example. I wasn't trying to look at how easy it is to accomplish that though.
Modifiers somebody else commented on about as well so I'll leave it at that that is a good point :)
As for population. While having a lot of people is certainly a benefit for making the total GDP as high as possible. I have several times found myself in a place where I actually ran out of input resources to continue to fuel the economy without running into shortages. And as my goal here was to find a region that can gives its people what they need rather than the one that gets the highest total gdp, that'd be a much worse outcome than not having enough people to continue growth.
Love the quality of the video and the mic. Keep up the good work❤
Awesome video Qurasia, thanks for posting.
Love from California :)
I dont even have vic 3, why am i watching this
Persia is one of the best starts for a non-major power. The only issue you run into is a lack of pops. But I do love playing Persia games.
Love myself some Persia games as well, and if the EIC lets you get away with it you can solve a lot of lack of pop related issues by nibbling a bit at north India.
Not sure how much you care about criticism from a non sub/viewer but I think this video would be a lot more interesting if you went through e.g the top 5 regions and kind of went into depth as to what does and doesn't make them that, I mean, you sort of did that but VERY very briefly since most of the video was spent going over the resources and systems which was interesting but not the point of the video (well, the title at least), so I found myself skipping after the first 5 minutes despite having learnt a lot of new things, obviously it'd be hard to make it a 20 minute video on that alone but perhaps you could also add honorable mentions for regions that are very strong but just needs X or Y to compensate (obviously via colony or some such) which would maybe give people an idea/inspiration for their own playthroughs. Part of the reason I skipped was also that I simply didn't care about you going through basic resources and where they are or arent because obviously the worlds too big to do that in a meaningful way (personal opinion)
Just some thoughts, don't need to read into it too much or change what you do. I mean frankly I only ended up watching like 7 minutes of the video and on 2x speed so maybe what I think isn't the greatest standard to adhere to.
Hi! First of all I definitely care about criticism from non subs/viewers, especially if they go into detail like yours :) It's not exactly my goal to specifically make videos 20+ minutes, it just kind of tends to be what I end up doing, so it's definitely helpful to know what people do find interesting and would like a bit more detail on and what could've been skipped.
That said I don't expect to be remaking this video, but if Paradox happens to change resources to the point where it might actually be worth revisiting anyway, I'll keep your comment in mind!
What is the mod that you are using?
Just changed territories using the console rather than having any mod running.
Africa lacks sulfur for some reason
Africa lacks most industrial resources
Does this translate roughly to real life or purely just the video game?
I hope that for the most part Paradox has done their research and at least somewhat made things line up with real life, but I've seen people point out some resources being absent in game that regions did in fact have in real life. So I don't think it's too safe to assume it'd translate to real life.
It doesn't look like they made it translate to real life otherwise most places would be able to make iron, coal and sulphur
Well, in real life autarky, while theoretically possible, in practical terms it is impossible. Iran, which scored highly in this analysis of Vic3 has been under US sanctions for decades, and they have been forced into near-autarky due to being unable to trade openly, they still struggle to meet everyone's needs.
Some places have deposits that are only accessible with modern technologies, and Africa as an example is really underrepresented.
@@thomasmarais5008 IRL we are centuries removed from this time period, and the US has amde sure only some east asian yes men and their european mates live well at the cost of the rest of the planet, so it's not a good way to look at it.
Historically tho, Iran is one of the palces where civilization started, home of the mmighty persians and achemenids, Most of the regions with so much potential have indded had gigantic, long lived rich civilizations, and ahve been rich / significant for most of history. We live in an extremely odd period of history nowadays actually, were everyone that has been rich and mighty for centuries or milenia isn't, and poor backwaters like northern europe and northern america are rich, take chian who jsut now, in the last 20 years got very big.
Something I’ve tried is a region lock game, where I can’t expand outside one region. Playing an all states free mod helps this.
Pretty fun to just try to build tall without so many resources, I even added the rule of no trade to make sure I am as self sufficient as possible
wtf is this map? where is russian empire? why france split and italy united? why you show data on modded game?
I could say it's because I didn't want to have a bunch of countries make it unclear what the regions were when in any map mode other than specifically the regions one, but the reality is that France split back in the 13th century, Italy has always been united and there's never been a Russian empire. This is just the real map which the elite don't want you to see.
@@Qurasia Good one. You will be a sensation in tiktok.
I think he separated them based on the interest regions. At least they look very similar at a glance.