"I play this game to kill people, please take that out of context." I always knew working for the health service took its toll on the mind, but I never knew it did so to that extreme.
@@minengescho5772 Yeah paramedic, I noticed DEFYN loves it when a comment humours his line of work because it always works so well with his own sense of humour
been playing the hunter f1, it suffers from the safe problems as this but to an even worse extent. I really want more attention to the balancing issues in this game, maybe it'll work
@@kingghidorah8106 No wtf. They go after whatever gets them money. Whole sections of vehicles begin at stupidly low brs so people would either grind for or straight buy. Has nothing to do with nation bias. And if you think it does, you're some main who struggles to grind a single nation.
@@Appppy at the expenses of a whole BR higher (sabres) or being exactly the same but no missiles (MiG19 PT/S) once they found out that having a 100kg gun on the nose won't make the plane 300kg lighter than the one with the P5B radar that's only 50kg of weight. PT should be even lighter because it is newer and was made to carry payload.
BR Compression is the sole reason I don't even touch 9.0-9.7. I'm a MiG fanboy and I absolutely love my MiG-17 but damn the power creep at that BR range is not fun at all.
I saw one guy arguing with other guy I tell him to calm down and he said "yOu'Re LoWeR lEvel ThAn Me YoUR ArGUmENT is INVALID" (Even I wasn't the one who's arguing with him)
@@ssdrbx6180 i mean why does it matter what my level is?! I could be having 4 level 100 accounts with all the nations unlocked and vehicles spaded and just smurfing with this level 2 account uptiering my chaika to 11.3 just to clap some f14 buttcheeks
Decided to grind out the J29F recently and my experience was largely the same. If you get a 10.0 or 9.7 game, you're going to suffer and there's almost nothing you can do about it. Add in the fact that everyone is spamming AV-8s and A-10s to grind out the SOOPER COOOL TOM CRUUSE FIGHTER JET and you're spending most of your games fully uptiered being a chew-toy for supersonics and stupid missiles.
The J29F is actually a good plane , is it balanced? Sort of. Is it fun? Also sort of. You just have to play to your abilities and just pick people off who get slow and don’t get too cocky and you should be fine to grind to the higher rank jets
Is it just me or does the Harrier get some kind of a cloaking stealth technology in this game? I swear to god everytime they are invisible until they come closer than 1,5km.
“I don’t play this game to grind, I play it to get kills” 1000 percent agree, maddening seeing people so focused on the nebulous grind and numbers going up! I’m here to PLAY
Well too bad i have to play these godawful crusty ass old planes to get to the stuff im really interested in. I dont care about props and early jets, i love 60s and 70s stuff
that f 104 is an average player, he mostly play rank 2-3 aircrafts and can't even make outstanding records. no wonder he's chickening out playing jets. he's that one guy who bought F-5C as a total newb and grinds through the leftmost part of US air tree until F-104A(K/D : 18/53 or 0.339) source: thunderskill
A a4 can fly wingless, so shot down the danm thing if it's only missing s wing tip, It can fly up to 905 km/h without a Wing tip. I fled from a fight without one,two wing tips, even wingless, so shot down any a4 that is not in a spin.
Honestly I enjoyed the game way more when we had the 9.7 / 10.0 split/cap It wasn't pure torture (at least until they added f-104a at 9.7). I actually had fun playing 9.0 and 9.3, now it's just blehhhh They really need to decompress jets, especially in 8.7-10.7
I play the F-104 because it is my highest BR currently and yeah you really can't do much in it when it comes to a 1v1 fight other than run away. Usually if I am the last person alive I just run to the airfield and J out to not drag the match and save the repair costs for myself.
It’s kinda wonderful that the British naval tech tree goes from 5.3, 7.0, 7.7, 7.7, 8.7, 11.3. I only touch the “”Compression Zone”” once, and after that it’s straight to top tier. Now watch gaijin add something in between the 8.7 scimitar and 11.3 phantom.
This plane is great, but the supersonics are making me sad. Not because they run away like in this video, but because THEY KEEP TRYING TO REVERSE ME. Airbrakes, throttle to zero, airspeed to 400kph. Sometimes I overshoot because I don't expect such levels of stupidity. I've been so tilted playing this plane, it's incredible.
I picked up the milan this update to jump back into the french grind and that 8.7 10.7 matchmaker rn is a fucking joke. Its so volatile and all the players are so slimey and kill steal all the time. Not to mention games are a colossal land slide each match, you dominate or get dominated. Just wish there was some decent balance between the subsonics and early super sonics and after burners.
To be fair I have been in a boom and zoom situation where I lock up and realise that I need to go back up even if the enemy doesn't dodge. I assume the f104 was compressing in those attacks and didn't airbrake to gain control.
MiG-21F-13 video? Stock with 60 rds and horrible energy retention. I'm struggling a bit with it. The performance is great but only 60 rds is tough. Is the Su-7 almost better at 9.3 just because of the more ammo?
ik, at the start of match's in the hunter F.58 i literally cream watching 104s get murdered by the one thing faster then it, the AIM 9p strapped to my wing
ive given up on hope that air rb can be fixed. we've been asking the devs to communicate with us and work with us and be more transparent but its clear that gaijin really are just a bunch of greedy bastards. when you trade game balance for short term profit (every premium is OP on release) you lose the more dedicated and veteran players, not like it matters to them though.
The most painful experience in this game thus far for me has been trying to play the stock Q-5 early with the gimped short barreled 23s, no counter measures, no flares and at a cost of 590k sl, experting the pilot is stupidly expensive without a premium account. alot easier to play the Mig-17, even though that thing is subsonic, that thing does not struggle in a dogfight against a canberra -,-. not sure which one i hate more, the Q-5 Early or the F-84 Thundershit
In air rb i suffer the repair cost if I'm the last one on my team and can't fight But if the enemy team intentionally tries to be unsportsmanlike. I hide above my runway. I don't mind being shot down, but if the enemy team sticks in groups of 5 or camps out the runways, i wont give them that one last kill
I know that you are gushing on the F2 this game can you revisit it and show how to fly it against 9.7s and 10.0s because i havent played it in a while because of compression
DEFYN will you be able to buy f 14 and can you give me a link to vid where i can learn how to aim? Please. ALso i love your vids youre yust like a damn teacher who knows every single plane weaknes and bonuses i cant believe how did you manage to become so good.
This "compression" you mention so often, is that when controls get stiff because of high speed? I tried googling it but when I added "War Thunder" to my search prompt all I got were forum posts about br compression and when I added "aerodynamic" or "aviation" I got results for compression lift. :D
late to the party 1 year, but it's still the case. When they run out of missiles to throw at you they turn into big pussies and just run even if they still have cannons because they're that unskilled
as the 5th jet ive gotten ive had some interesting experiences with the lim; the most surprising is how many yak-38 players will simply j out or crash as soon as you get close to gun range. like i know its a shit brick but at least try to get a reversal in, maybe you can pull something off ugh why did you click "to battle" theres a perfectly good test flight lobby for fighting ai without resistance
Can you do a video on the new Saudi lightning in the UK tech tree? I’m having difficulty understanding the plane, When I WEP it says reduce speed and I’m nowhere near the top speed
Yall are nuts lol. I absolutely love the 8.7 to 9.3 br ranges. All the saber an mig 17 variants. Fucking mint. So much more fun to fly. So long as you pay attention an know how to manage your energy. And you all can say this or that about supersonics being that much better, but I've got 3+ kd in most of the planes I fly at those BR's. So I'm def doing something right.
I haven’t flown the F104A but I have flown the F104G in a full downtier It gets so boring with how limited I am in what I can do that I end up just trying to have some resemblance of fun, and proceed to kill myself by attempting to reverse something that vastly out preforms me for fun.
I feel really terrible that they've added a jet made in Poland only in german markings. I get that at the end of their service in communist Poland we've sold all Lims to Germany but come on...
the matchmaking make this game worse... im noob on RB air. and i dont have the SL to make experimental gameplay on that rating. While Wales Fly all time best in slot planes to kill most ppl in a game. So i need to try to play safe as possible to make MAX 1 kill to not end up om Losing SL
F86k isn't that bad at 9.0 I consistently bully 9.7 and 9.3 premium idiots and get 3+ kills u just get 20mins of fuel and u climb as far as u can and after that you play it like an 104g
Is the Cl-13 mk6 faster than the Lim? I'm comming back to the game and already have both Cls, lovely plane back then, how's the Lim, compared to the Mk5/6?
@@chybaegredz9682 Just checked. There are 3 in the game. French, Italian and German. They are all at 9.0 with the exact same specs. The only difference is the repair cost.
"I play this game to kill people, please take that out of context."
I always knew working for the health service took its toll on the mind, but I never knew it did so to that extreme.
Sometimes you heal people, sometimes you kill people. Perfectly balanced, as all things should be.
he's in the medical field? I'm curious what his job is
"the hurting is more rewarding than the healing"
-Medic, TF2
@@GHOST07071 paramedic iirc
@@minengescho5772 Yeah paramedic, I noticed DEFYN loves it when a comment humours his line of work because it always works so well with his own sense of humour
f104 pilot: “I have one kill and you don’t so shut up”
Defyn: **kills the f104 pilot** “now I have”
rekt +100
hutt burt +1000
If that’s what the f-104 actually said, that has to be the most useless rebuttal to ever exist.
Ligma 5p's got a face a mother wouldn't love
It's basically the mig 19 nose
Pretty much a Mini mig 19
I find the tempest mk 5 even uglier
@@iampurechaos its uglier than mig19's pig nose
Am i the only one who likes it?
been playing the hunter f1, it suffers from the safe problems as this but to an even worse extent. I really want more attention to the balancing issues in this game, maybe it'll work
Funny joke. News flash, br compression is on purpose.
@@Luluchan00 made to favour America in general and Chinese Premium
@@kingghidorah8106 but guess what Germany gets objectively better version of American and Russian vehicles
@@kingghidorah8106 No wtf. They go after whatever gets them money. Whole sections of vehicles begin at stupidly low brs so people would either grind for or straight buy. Has nothing to do with nation bias. And if you think it does, you're some main who struggles to grind a single nation.
@@Appppy at the expenses of a whole BR higher (sabres) or being exactly the same but no missiles (MiG19 PT/S) once they found out that having a 100kg gun on the nose won't make the plane 300kg lighter than the one with the P5B radar that's only 50kg of weight. PT should be even lighter because it is newer and was made to carry payload.
BR Compression is the sole reason I don't even touch 9.0-9.7. I'm a MiG fanboy and I absolutely love my MiG-17 but damn the power creep at that BR range is not fun at all.
J35A be looking at you so bad
Mig-19pts. Sucks even harder lol
Power creep after 7.0 is crazy
Still love bringing out my CL-13 though
@@ihavenocreativity2666 I'm currently researching it. After 8 years I finally almost have the top tier vehicle. 🙌
Whaddoyameandrift?
1:16 "AlThoUgH i OnLy HaVe 1 kIlL yOu CaN't SaY tHaT bEcAuSe YoU hAvE nOnE."
🤓
classic not so relevant way to counter an argument in war thunder
I saw one guy arguing with other guy I tell him to calm down and he said "yOu'Re LoWeR lEvel ThAn Me YoUR ArGUmENT is INVALID" (Even I wasn't the one who's arguing with him)
@@ssdrbx6180 i love how before starting an argument, some players check your stat card and then decide how to argue.
@@Appppy Yea, the worse thing is I wasn't the person who arguing. So he was out of his mind
@@ssdrbx6180 i mean why does it matter what my level is?! I could be having 4 level 100 accounts with all the nations unlocked and vehicles spaded and just smurfing with this level 2 account uptiering my chaika to 11.3 just to clap some f14 buttcheeks
Decided to grind out the J29F recently and my experience was largely the same. If you get a 10.0 or 9.7 game, you're going to suffer and there's almost nothing you can do about it. Add in the fact that everyone is spamming AV-8s and A-10s to grind out the SOOPER COOOL TOM CRUUSE FIGHTER JET and you're spending most of your games fully uptiered being a chew-toy for supersonics and stupid missiles.
29F is fun tho when spaded, worth the pain
@@smigoltime actual masochist gaming
@@satagaming9144 aye, I actually rly enjoyed both J29A, B and F xDD I love the Tunnans flight model
The J29F is actually a good plane , is it balanced? Sort of. Is it fun? Also sort of. You just have to play to your abilities and just pick people off who get slow and don’t get too cocky and you should be fine to grind to the higher rank jets
Is it just me or does the Harrier get some kind of a cloaking stealth technology in this game? I swear to god everytime they are invisible until they come closer than 1,5km.
Yeah since the last update rolled out i feel like planes are disappearing from me in plain sight at like 300m and I´m getting pretty frustrated now.
Facts
“I don’t play this game to grind, I play it to get kills” 1000 percent agree, maddening seeing people so focused on the nebulous grind and numbers going up! I’m here to PLAY
Well too bad i have to play these godawful crusty ass old planes to get to the stuff im really interested in. I dont care about props and early jets, i love 60s and 70s stuff
How dare people play the game for their own reasons.
f86k went down to 9.0 now, not sure how much of a difference it makes but it is the same br as theis and the f-2 now
Well now it's bad at 9.0 instead of 9.3.
Lmao
Please rename the first timestamp from "Intro" to "I do tho"
Edit: o7 Gramercy!
Its interesting what you said about f86K. In simulator turns very well and sustain the turn decently
Instructor probably restricts its turning capabilities in RB. I guess its a soft nerf by Gaijin.
that f 104 is an average player, he mostly play rank 2-3 aircrafts and can't even make outstanding records. no wonder he's chickening out playing jets. he's that one guy who bought F-5C as a total newb and grinds through the leftmost part of US air tree until F-104A(K/D : 18/53 or 0.339)
source: thunderskill
F-104 is pretty shit too.
@@gaiofattos2 no you just have to use it right
A a4 can fly wingless, so shot down the danm thing if it's only missing s wing tip, It can fly up to 905 km/h without a Wing tip. I fled from a fight without one,two wing tips, even wingless, so shot down any a4 that is not in a spin.
I would love to see this plane played in sim, I feel like the HUD would make it an interesting plane to fly
this is shenyang f5 without rockets and with radar
The F86K has been 9.0 since the last be changes.
Please a video on the Ariete. It’s actually quite a joy to fly
this's why I play top tier "oh you don't want to come close?" *launch radar missile to catch him at 10km away*
Good point, its why I never play above 9.3 unless troll squad. Nobody wants to fight, and even if it happens you get third partied instantly
Honestly I enjoyed the game way more when we had the 9.7 / 10.0 split/cap
It wasn't pure torture (at least until they added f-104a at 9.7). I actually had fun playing 9.0 and 9.3, now it's just blehhhh
They really need to decompress jets, especially in 8.7-10.7
how does defyn play matches without getting sniped by a 20G missile at the start
I play the F-104 because it is my highest BR currently and yeah you really can't do much in it when it comes to a 1v1 fight other than run away. Usually if I am the last person alive I just run to the airfield and J out to not drag the match and save the repair costs for myself.
The same thing happens with every 9.0 jet. Flying a stock J29F I have to fight A10 and harriers
just fly vampire until you get j32b or even a32a, all j29 are trash
@@kiubekpl5863 I know, but I don’t want to play the J32 because I don’t want to spend all money, and also I haven’t the crew for the J28
1:15 the fucking disrespect in these supersonics is real
Very inspiring words: a man can dream!
I wish to one day have the balls as big as this F-104 pilot had when he said that DEFYN doesn't know what he's doing.
F-86K is 9.0 now
It’s kinda wonderful that the British naval tech tree goes from 5.3, 7.0, 7.7, 7.7, 8.7, 11.3. I only touch the “”Compression Zone”” once, and after that it’s straight to top tier. Now watch gaijin add something in between the 8.7 scimitar and 11.3 phantom.
Should fine at 9.0 as I was just OK on regular Mig-17 anyway.
Yep, bugs gonna bug, with the collective replacing instruments
Remember when top BR was 9.0 and people complained about compression so now 4 years later they actually reduced the BR of the top planes of those days
This plane is great, but the supersonics are making me sad. Not because they run away like in this video, but because THEY KEEP TRYING TO REVERSE ME. Airbrakes, throttle to zero, airspeed to 400kph. Sometimes I overshoot because I don't expect such levels of stupidity. I've been so tilted playing this plane, it's incredible.
This is why reversing is an essential air rb skill.
That white radar...
good or bad?
I picked up the milan this update to jump back into the french grind and that 8.7 10.7 matchmaker rn is a fucking joke. Its so volatile and all the players are so slimey and kill steal all the time. Not to mention games are a colossal land slide each match, you dominate or get dominated. Just wish there was some decent balance between the subsonics and early super sonics and after burners.
That kill epidemic is only due to the economy nerf, particulary started happening massively since they removed the proxy battle time score.
This is a polish made plane hope they give it a polish air force skin like on the su22
To be fair I have been in a boom and zoom situation where I lock up and realise that I need to go back up even if the enemy doesn't dodge. I assume the f104 was compressing in those attacks and didn't airbrake to gain control.
Three videos in three days?!?! Nice
That first kill must have felt amazing
Subsonics need a block so they don’t have to deal this bs
nice video and btw wasn't the f86k 9.0?
it is 9.0
MiG-21F-13 video? Stock with 60 rds and horrible energy retention. I'm struggling a bit with it. The performance is great but only 60 rds is tough. Is the Su-7 almost better at 9.3 just because of the more ammo?
Bro, just pick the B-57 and avoid turn fighting.
Imagine CL-13A is still 9.3BR even Lim-5P is totally better
Fought a lighting that was so passive like the f104 but it was surprising since i was in my mig 19s
When was this encounter?
ik, at the start of match's in the hunter F.58 i literally cream watching 104s get murdered by the one thing faster then it, the AIM 9p strapped to my wing
ive given up on hope that air rb can be fixed. we've been asking the devs to communicate with us and work with us and be more transparent but its clear that gaijin really are just a bunch of greedy bastards. when you trade game balance for short term profit (every premium is OP on release) you lose the more dedicated and veteran players, not like it matters to them though.
The most painful experience in this game thus far for me has been trying to play the stock Q-5 early with the gimped short barreled 23s, no counter measures, no flares and at a cost of 590k sl, experting the pilot is stupidly expensive without a premium account.
alot easier to play the Mig-17, even though that thing is subsonic, that thing does not struggle in a dogfight against a canberra -,-.
not sure which one i hate more, the Q-5 Early or the F-84 Thundershit
In air rb i suffer the repair cost if I'm the last one on my team and can't fight
But if the enemy team intentionally tries to be unsportsmanlike. I hide above my runway.
I don't mind being shot down, but if the enemy team sticks in groups of 5 or camps out the runways, i wont give them that one last kill
6:38 9.0 sir
Compressing compression depression
❤
Reason I don’t play past 8.3 these days, even though some of my absolute favorite planes are 8.7-10.0 because the compression is simply insufferable
Does anyone know if the Norway map is still in rotation? I absolutely loved that map back when I was playing props in like 2018
Why does China and Germany get a afterburning Mig-17 but not the soviets
i do tho
I know that you are gushing on the F2 this game can you revisit it and show how to fly it against 9.7s and 10.0s because i havent played it in a while because of compression
DEFYN will you be able to buy f 14 and can you give me a link to vid where i can learn how to aim? Please. ALso i love your vids youre yust like a damn teacher who knows every single plane weaknes and bonuses i cant believe how did you manage to become so good.
I mean, he was the last guy left with a huge ticket advantage. He was a dipshit to not just run away.
3x23mm are way better than 2x23 + 1x37mm
This "compression" you mention so often, is that when controls get stiff because of high speed? I tried googling it but when I added "War Thunder" to my search prompt all I got were forum posts about br compression and when I added "aerodynamic" or "aviation" I got results for compression lift. :D
I want see a MiG 17as video
late to the party 1 year, but it's still the case. When they run out of missiles to throw at you they turn into big pussies and just run even if they still have cannons because they're that unskilled
as the 5th jet ive gotten ive had some interesting experiences with the lim; the most surprising is how many yak-38 players will simply j out or crash as soon as you get close to gun range. like i know its a shit brick but at least try to get a reversal in, maybe you can pull something off ugh why did you click "to battle" theres a perfectly good test flight lobby for fighting ai without resistance
I have died to enemy guns ONCE. Every other death has been an 9L or missle from a mach 2 speedster.
A6E
Can you do a video on the new Saudi lightning in the UK tech tree? I’m having difficulty understanding the plane, When I WEP it says reduce speed and I’m nowhere near the top speed
we should really force BR decompression im so sick of uptiers
Defyn can you fly the p51d5 or d20 once you are done with the new danger zone jets
No
@@TheLazyKat but why
Yo how do you get your radar to appear as B+W instead of green? great vid!
It's in the Options. Same place where you set what metrics your meters are set to.
In your options, there's an option that allows you to change the aircraft's UI color
@@desertfalcon1539 doesnt change for me, tried everything
@@holycrusader3336 It might just be bugged, a lot of peoples hud have been buggy after the update.
Yall are nuts lol. I absolutely love the 8.7 to 9.3 br ranges. All the saber an mig 17 variants. Fucking mint. So much more fun to fly. So long as you pay attention an know how to manage your energy. And you all can say this or that about supersonics being that much better, but I've got 3+ kd in most of the planes I fly at those BR's. So I'm def doing something right.
F86K is 9.0 now they dropped it...
Crispyshoe got rekt hard hahahahahhahaha
How can you change the color of the radar HUD?
I haven’t flown the F104A but I have flown the F104G in a full downtier
It gets so boring with how limited I am in what I can do that I end up just trying to have some resemblance of fun, and proceed to kill myself by attempting to reverse something that vastly out preforms me for fun.
Glad im not the only one that thinks this plane is overtiered in an already compressed and poorly balanced br range...
Whats the wing rip speed because the wiki says 0 kmh
Nice video, should I buy it?
You're gonna have to if you want to access the later DDR fighters.
Calling an interceptor Mig-17 a shenyang will never stop being annoying tho :^)
In your opinion, what's the most enjoyable BR to play in?
7.0
First I was very sceptical about this jet, now after I almost completelly spaded it, I could say it's a good jet. But I still hate russian guns :)
it's german so it's all g stuff the soviets
tbh i do this shit becuase i dont want to pay that 16k repair
Return of gun meta maybe??
yarn
YARN
I feel really terrible that they've added a jet made in Poland only in german markings. I get that at the end of their service in communist Poland we've sold all Lims to Germany but come on...
x3
Are there any air rb br's that are fun and balanced
:)
how did you get that color for the radar??
I don't play higher than 7.0 because it's so unbalanced. I have up to 8.7 but I don't fly them.
Me163 and G91 are crap.
How did you change your radar color
the matchmaking make this game worse... im noob on RB air. and i dont have the SL to make experimental gameplay on that rating. While Wales Fly all time best in slot planes to kill most ppl in a game. So i need to try to play safe as possible to make MAX 1 kill to not end up om Losing SL
F86k isn't that bad at 9.0 I consistently bully 9.7 and 9.3 premium idiots and get 3+ kills u just get 20mins of fuel and u climb as far as u can and after that you play it like an 104g
I honestly hate people who play like that, I’m glad we all know how annoying they are
Is the Cl-13 mk6 faster than the Lim? I'm comming back to the game and already have both Cls, lovely plane back then, how's the Lim, compared to the Mk5/6?
What is compression?
The german f86k is actually quite better that the other ones. Its at alower br with a little better turning and it gets downtiered to 8.7 quite often
All F86K are the exact same at the same BR. Stop spreading lies.
@@bananomet4052 Check the game again and read all the f86k stat cards and their battle rating. Some are different
@@chybaegredz9682 Just checked. There are 3 in the game. French, Italian and German. They are all at 9.0 with the exact same specs. The only difference is the repair cost.
@@bananomet4052 last time I checked the french one is 9.3
@@chybaegredz9682 Then you checked wrong. I am talking about RB btw.
52sec ago ;P
What is the best top tier fighter in war thunder ?
f-14a as for now is the best (imo)
a decent pilot would do great
but a stupid one will get killed by AIM-9B
@@el_DartoSuprapto is the mig 23mld better than f4j ?
@@yazanalrajoub5625 yes f4j is really meh of a plane
@@alphawolf1786 Try out the F4E then if you call F4J average.
@@mateuszlorekmatthewlorrain6674 F4E is worse than the F4J
tell me your dutch without telling me your dutch
It sucks becUse I love f2 sabre but can’t play it
air rb is just a fucking joke nowadays. dead game mode where you only find OP premiums
Yea the start of the video? Thats american players at literally every tier except reserve