Best way to test how the bitrate is affecting quality is to do faster moving video in the woods, a lot of fine information with fast movement is where low bitrate struggles. They increased it, but its still lower than the action 4 which shoots at around 120mbs They need to give users an option like gopro labs, you can manually set your gopro to like 180mbs and it does just fine. You cant call your camera pro without custom bitrate options
High bit rate only matters in scenes with lots of movement. You won’t be able to tell much with the slow shots like that. Static shots will be almost imperceptible as well.
Can not please all, but Personally I am pleased, thank you I like the OA5P better in ways, and showed it in a great way if asked thanks for showing the FISH
It definitely looks a lot better with a higher bit right now. I’m curious, does the higher bit rate also affect the DLog color mode or is that not affected?
The image in poorer lighting conditions is better than in GoPro, but I wanted to use this camera for FPV. Unfortunately, there is a Jello effect that does not occur in GoPro. The image is unusable in Action for FPV :/
Your Action 4 has some near focusing issues compared to the 5. It's difficult to see any difference in this case. Anyway, i think that a nearly static shot is not the best way to compare different bitrates. You need some fast paced action, some panning, walking and so on.
@@lebowski137 It's hard to say. I noticed a certain amount of temporal denoising on the Action 5, which is good but not always it depends on situations. I still have to test the new firmware, today is raining outside and i already had a shower this morning 😄
I plan to record some action to compare them also. But also to check how good OA5 Pro will perform with stabilization since OA4 for now have best stabilization.
After update i got recording time 4k 30fps from 18h down to 10h and the image quality is almost the same...bad quality, so the problwm seems to be the algorithm or something else...i regret buying this camera...is not possible the newer camera to have worst image quality than the previous one...
Depends. For vlogging I'd say NO. For riding a bike or a scooter ... yes. All depends what you want to film with your camera. Action 5 Pro is much better choice if you like to film your bangee or parachute jumps :D.
@@kentsvensson4685 For normal vlogging unfortunately Pocket3 is better. I bought Action5 Pro for vlogging too, but the problem is it exposes for the face only in Normal mode, which looks terrible (the mode). In HLG and D-LOGM it exposes for whole scene, so not that great for vlogs with a face in the frame. For cars it depends. If it's recording the interior of the car while driving, Pocket 3 is better. Cause gimbal stabilization is better. It's harder to attach especially in slopped windshield cards, but if you manage to attach it it's better. If we are taking about recording moving car from outside (using suction caps) then I'd say Action 5 is better :D. So might be worth buying. I own both of them.
@@mat-ventures Looks like YT eaten my reply. It depends if users complain enough. You can go to DJI support forums and ask them to include proper face exposure in HLG and D-LogM ... I will back you up there :D. Pocket 3 has exactly the same behavior. Never been fixed or addressed.
@@JoATTech 1. Mimo App öffnen 2. Auf Profil gehen 3. Auf Geräteverwaltung gehen 4. Osmo Aktion 5 Pro anklicken 5.Auf neue Firmware klicken und herunterladen Viel Erfolg und viele Grüße Bernd
@@bernhardschiefler8405 I tried that already, and there is no info or a way to upgrade. Maybe they roll it to some regions first? I'm located in Europe ...
@@tricks-and-tips just downloaded it. Are you noticing improvement? Evidently they also fixed the low light and super night footage to be even better as well. Lots of improvements!
@@matt_pang Sorry for the confusion, I just answered you can use the Mimo app for updating. I don't have the Action 5 myself, so I did not do the update here. I use the mimo app for my Pocket, and it works the same (for updating) @babyboy1971 has done it for the Action 5.
@@BraxChat no worries. 265 is between 25-50% more efficient than 264. Newer GoPros can encode in both. Just gotta make sure its apples to apples. I have the 5 pro and even on the standard bitrate setting (60) it looks better than my gopro 8 on high. Im happy with the image quality. Better battery life and less demanding on storage too. I think its a good trade off.
@@rjfotovideo image quality looks too digital, like a cheap smartphone. You can only see when you compare it with another top action camera like the Ace pro or GoPro, but even if you compare it with the old action 4
@@atw365. Blaming the camera for user error. The digital look comes from the oversharpening that DJI applies to standard picture profiles. It's as simple as tweaking the in camera settings to fix and forget. Texture -2, noise reduction -1
Best way to test how the bitrate is affecting quality is to do faster moving video in the woods, a lot of fine information with fast movement is where low bitrate struggles.
They increased it, but its still lower than the action 4 which shoots at around 120mbs
They need to give users an option like gopro labs, you can manually set your gopro to like 180mbs and it does just fine. You cant call your camera pro without custom bitrate options
@@lebowski137man, only ask your question ONCE. You are spamming the replies....
High bit rate only matters in scenes with lots of movement. You won’t be able to tell much with the slow shots like that. Static shots will be almost imperceptible as well.
I'm seeing more detail and more naturally sharper image quality. I'm actually a bit impressed!
pun intended?
It looks like "High Bitrate" is higher, but still not as high as older models or competitors!
Can not please all, but Personally I am pleased, thank you I like the OA5P better in ways, and showed it in a great way if asked thanks for showing the FISH
I will have to say that OA5 Pro is better now than OA4 in video quality. I don't look at numbers, only look at the overall quality in same conditions.
@@rjfotovideo great to hear. we all can sit and try to figure out what works for us.
IDK if that a different between the cameras but the difference is quite noticeable, even with youtube compression.
GOOD for DJI, always hear the user voice
Still not convinced enough to buy just yet, they need to sort the colours out. Need to see the new bitrate in action shots.
I plan to post a new video out today with fast movement to check stabilization + more.
Is it me or the auto mode on osmo action 5 is Wayyyyy darker than on osmo 4?
Well, you can see the fundamental difference, it's great that they added it.
Can you? Looks the same.
Nice video!
I'm curious if you see a difference in the typical areas like green grass.
I wonder about that myself, and also how good it will perform in the dark now
oA4 better in all cases but you really need to be moving through the trees to see if bitrate makes a difference.
It definitely looks a lot better with a higher bit right now. I’m curious, does the higher bit rate also affect the DLog color mode or is that not affected?
The image in poorer lighting conditions is better than in GoPro, but I wanted to use this camera for FPV. Unfortunately, there is a Jello effect that does not occur in GoPro. The image is unusable in Action for FPV :/
Waiting for the update to arrive on mine, glad I kept the OA4 TBH !
There are some that haven't got the update yet.
Action 4 actually looks better to me...
Your Action 4 has some near focusing issues compared to the 5. It's difficult to see any difference in this case. Anyway, i think that a nearly static shot is not the best way to compare different bitrates. You need some fast paced action, some panning, walking and so on.
@@lebowski137 It's hard to say. I noticed a certain amount of temporal denoising on the Action 5, which is good but not always it depends on situations. I still have to test the new firmware, today is raining outside and i already had a shower this morning 😄
I plan to record some action to compare them also. But also to check how good OA5 Pro will perform with stabilization since OA4 for now have best stabilization.
Been waiting for this. Thanks.
BUT IN SETTINGS IT SAYS THAT ONLY THE HIGH BIT RATE IS AVAILABLE IN SUPER NIGHT AND SLOW MOTION. DOES IT APPLY FOR THE NORMAL VIDEO??
why does the Osmo action 5 seem to have a weird tint? the Osmo action 4 the colors look more natural
To get better colour lower the EV to -0.7
Because auto is not always the best. You can always adjust the settings to your liking.
@@independentmind6345 im not talking about the exposure but it seems like the color primaries are not balanced accurately
@@kllaskas810 try it, it will make the colours deeper getting rid of the purplish looking skies
@@independentmind6345 The footage seems already dark, i can't imagine it with EV -0.7
Great news. High bitrate has arrived.
Yes finally we got high bitrate on it, and hope everything else will be amazing now
That a lot better!
Good review
After update i got recording time 4k 30fps from 18h down to 10h and the image quality is almost the same...bad quality, so the problwm seems to be the algorithm or something else...i regret buying this camera...is not possible the newer camera to have worst image quality than the previous one...
When I launch Mimo app I dont get the latest firmware, any info Roger?
Same here. Tried three times, still nothing. I wonder if it has anything to do with the region we are in.
@@planetguam8475 they said, until next monday, everyone will recieve it
@@planetguam8475 maybe, but me and Roger is from the same region.
Hafadai @planetguam8475 I'm waiting for it too rofl😂 I've been trying the past 2 hours.
Go to Profile.
Then go to about
Then go to check for firmware updates
Update from there.
Looks like there are more details in high bitrate. Which color profile is it?
It is normal color mode
Can you notice a difference?
Hard to say need to do more testing
If you have an Osmo pocket 3, it is worth buying an Action pro 5?
Depends. For vlogging I'd say NO. For riding a bike or a scooter ... yes.
All depends what you want to film with your camera. Action 5 Pro is much better choice if you like to film your bangee or parachute jumps :D.
@@JoATTech Mostly vlogging and cars. I make
@@kentsvensson4685 For normal vlogging unfortunately Pocket3 is better.
I bought Action5 Pro for vlogging too, but the problem is it exposes for the face only in Normal mode, which looks terrible (the mode). In HLG and D-LOGM it exposes for whole scene, so not that great for vlogs with a face in the frame.
For cars it depends. If it's recording the interior of the car while driving, Pocket 3 is better. Cause gimbal stabilization is better. It's harder to attach especially in slopped windshield cards, but if you manage to attach it it's better.
If we are taking about recording moving car from outside (using suction caps) then I'd say Action 5 is better :D. So might be worth buying. I own both of them.
@@JoATTechdo you think the exposure will be fixed in a other firmware update? (I'm vlogging mostly and I'm waiting to buy osmo 5)
@@mat-ventures Looks like YT eaten my reply. It depends if users complain enough. You can go to DJI support forums and ask them to include proper face exposure in HLG and D-LogM ... I will back you up there :D.
Pocket 3 has exactly the same behavior. Never been fixed or addressed.
How did u update?? I dont get a prompt on my DJI Mimi App that there is a new update available??
Same here ... :(
@@JoATTech 1. Mimo App öffnen
2. Auf Profil gehen
3. Auf Geräteverwaltung gehen
4. Osmo Aktion 5 Pro anklicken
5.Auf neue Firmware klicken und herunterladen
Viel Erfolg und viele Grüße Bernd
@@bernhardschiefler8405 I tried that already, and there is no info or a way to upgrade.
Maybe they roll it to some regions first?
I'm located in Europe ...
Same for me@@JoATTech
Go to Profile.
Then go to about
Then go to check for firmware updates
Update from there.
Ace Pro II for the W
I can’t wait
If only Ace Pro 2 would had 10 bit, but it won't. But I am actually looking forward to it still. Maybe I will buy it also
@@rjfotovideo😂 Nobody cares about 10 bit, you need it ??? And if so , for what ?
The new Srgb Actioncam😂
Querdenker
How do you update it? Can I do in the Mimo app?
Yes.
@@tricks-and-tips just downloaded it. Are you noticing improvement? Evidently they also fixed the low light and super night footage to be even better as well. Lots of improvements!
@@babyboy1971 Nice!
@@tricks-and-tipswhat region are you in?..I'm in the US and I tried updating my app, but to no avail, it's still not showing.
@@matt_pang
Sorry for the confusion, I just answered you can use the Mimo app for updating.
I don't have the Action 5 myself, so I did not do the update here.
I use the mimo app for my Pocket, and it works the same (for updating)
@babyboy1971 has done it for the Action 5.
Looks better but 70mbs at 4k30 is sh*t, honestly. Still worse than the action 4 it seems.
Yes, if kind to see 100mbs out higher given w talking about how much efficient it is.
@@lebowski137you’ll be happy with it. The whole bitrate thing is overblown
Still low bitrate .smh...
Its just a number dude. Hvec 60mbps is equiv to 100-120 h264
@@equithanks for this, i didn’t know that.
@@BraxChat no worries. 265 is between 25-50% more efficient than 264. Newer GoPros can encode in both. Just gotta make sure its apples to apples. I have the 5 pro and even on the standard bitrate setting (60) it looks better than my gopro 8 on high. Im happy with the image quality. Better battery life and less demanding on storage too. I think its a good trade off.
@@equi yea but the 4 also records in 265.
@@equi Not to forget that youtubes compression doesnt help at all in this regard. It always looks worse here than native file
If you are looking for action stabilization, I have made a video where I test it out while driving my ATV: ruclips.net/video/IGc-i2D8bBw/видео.html
what is wrong with the action 5 ?.. the video image too DARK ????? looks suck
Most likely did something in post.
SAME.EXACT.THING. This camera is just bad, I bought it, got upset, waited for the update and it’s as bad as before.
What is bad? It is performing really well
OA4 delivers better results, I have both and I regret buying OA5
@@rjfotovideo image quality looks too digital, like a cheap smartphone. You can only see when you compare it with another top action camera like the Ace pro or GoPro, but even if you compare it with the old action 4
@@atw365. Blaming the camera for user error. The digital look comes from the oversharpening that DJI applies to standard picture profiles. It's as simple as tweaking the in camera settings to fix and forget. Texture -2, noise reduction -1