I am a broken record. We will not get better until the McCaskeys are no longer in charge of this team. They are clueless on how to run a successful football team.
You’re right. They should sell, but they will never sell. We have to find a solution. We’re incompetent. The only hope we have is to get really lucky. Sad but true
@@stuartanthony9435 He might be the only hope. Obviously George likes and respects him. Warren has to convince him that a coach’s salary is no problem. If Poles isn’t wanted by a big time guy, he has to go too. I don’t hate Poles but doubling down on Flus and his mousse after some egregiously awful losses last year is a fireable offense.
How long has Poles been here? How long has this been going on? What is the common denominator? Ask yourself these questions and all roads point to George and the McASSkeys, end of story
@@Keithjhall Poles is a dummy for taking this job. They saddled him with Flus. Even Pace didn't want Fox. But yes, George the boy blunder is the problem
He falls in love with his picks and over evaluates their talent. What input does Ian Cunningham have I wonder. They absolutely should not let him be involved in the next draft or pick the next head coach.
poles was talking to harbaugh(actually how you spell it) and warren and mccaskey turned him down. harbaugh said he was in talks with the bears. you think warren was talking to him? how about mccaskey?? genius i tell you. warren said i dont like him, he mean to me.. george said too much money, just stick with flus
There's more how about trading a second round pick for a receiver who sucked how about trading a fourth round pick for a receiver you're going to let go who only played seven games this year how about trading a fourth round pick for an offensive lineman to play out of position. Remember there's not one GM there's two Chicago is two GMs and they both suck
Exactly who did they replace Roquan with? injured reserve all star Noah Sewell and and a little above average Dexter. Montgomery they has some resemblance of a power running game. Team is a joke. I'd take Pace over Poles at least he went to 2 playoff games
This Bears offense has turned into one of the worst offenses I’ve seen us ever have. In the last 7 games, we’ve been held score less in the 1st half, 3 times. In fact our star QB hasn’t thrown a TD pass in the 1st half once in the last 7 games!!! We’ve been held scoreless in the 2nd half twice. We’ve had the lead in only 3 of those games. This team needs to be rebuilt in so many ways and poles is not the one to do it
I’ve been saying this for months now, Poles is the problem - take away the good/lucky deal with Carolina and his moves are all questionable to say the least.. Nate Davis, Claypool, bad O-Line signings, Velus Jones, extending Kmet, drafting a punter in 4th, Darnell Wright is an average right tackle that was taken in top 10! Edmunds instead of Roquan, the list goes on and the cherry on top of this mess is obviously his picking and sticking with Eberflus
wright, brisker, gordon, trading for sweat are very good moves. trading roquan for gervin dexter and having money to get edmonds and edwards was a great move.
@@GrayCrosby yes. what does that have to do with anything? its just been an awful year. shit happens in the NFL. the Chargers have the same roster as last year and are amazing. The Browns went to the play offs and now suck - so do the Bengals. its a wild league with lots of ups and downs. The Bears will be fine. We are in year 3 of a TOTAL rebuild. By next year the bears will have 2 players on this roster from when poles took over: JJ & Kmet. thats what the old regime left him. We are a very very young team with a rookie QB. but i am not about to fire the man that brought in: Caleb, Rome, DJ, Allen, Swift, Wright, Sweat, Dex, Edmonds, Edwards, Gordon & Brisker. we know these guys can play. just keep adding to the oline and dline and get a #1 every down RB. And get a real NFL coach: Johnson, Vrabel, Bill, etc. we'll be fine. We have 60M to spend and 3 top 45 draft picks. if they dont win some games next year with a real coach and year 2 of caleb then we can start crying
@ wright average, brisker injury prone, sweat definitely not living up to his paycheck this year.. I might give you Gordon but that’s 1 out of 4 Dexter has 5 total sacks (45th in the league) and can’t stop the run… what’s so ‘great’ about him? That he’s better than he was last year? Whoop-tie do. Don’t get me started on Edmonds. Most overpaid player on this team. I would pay the extra for Roquan.
Poles didn’t pick flus, mcaskey did, poles mistake was to retain. But he wanted to fire him earlier. Don’t let Chicago anger throw the baby out with the bathwater
Caleb needs to be an all-pro for that to be the case. Should have traded R1#1 in '24 for a truckload of draft capital that could be leveraged for many seasons to come. Nope. We got Caleb instead. Lets hope he's above-average.
@@RokDocJekyl he has more touchdowns, less int's, more yards, more sacks cuz the o line regressed, and better rating than fields.. but not an upgrade even tho fields was a running back... brilliant
@@NCMonefaith and before the season started everyone and their grandma said this was a 9-10 win team?? why was that?? top 5 defense, great qb coming in. and the team sucks now. thats on poles? if we thought poles was braindead like you we would have said 2 winns maybe 3 tops but no. we thought there was talent. the coaches gotta teach, the players gotta show up.. if we thought there was talent before, that means the gm did his job. tell me you dont know anything without actually telling me
@@mobobrien4934 poles also responsible for making sure the right coaching is place. No other team in the league would have even hired eberflus in the first place much less keep him around with a wizard like harbaugh available. They’re total 🤡
No team, no matter how talented, can go thru the turmoil this team has, with the soul-crushing losses because of their dimwit head coach who is here because of the GM! ...And play like how we want them to, or even how their potential would allow them to play... They're being led by a businessman Warren, a never-been O-lineman/1st time GM, a first-time D Coordinator play caller, and a first time interim HC (who not even 3 weeks ago was the freakin Passing Game Coordinator! I don't care if it was Mahomes and the Chiefs, they'd suck too!
Poles needs to go! All anyone has to do is take a look at the Bears wins & losses since Poles took over. Not good! While division rivals have improved.
time to throw last year 2.8 seconds. 3rd best in the league.. thats average of all 17 games.. that means o line is holding up. now o line regressed, is poles the one thats gotta teach the team or am i missing somthing?? thought this was a 9-10 win team?? if we thought 9-10 wins then that means theres talent right, sooooo poles did his job right? but now team is phoning it in now poles bad???????
@@mobobrien4934 You're missing the fact that 156 sacks given up in three years, and this season is not over yet. In fact, might just break David Carr's record of 76.
He actually said it was the deepest line ever before the season... He built the team backwards and we tried to see the best in him, but now he's just a first-time GM who is soft AF and wanted the cherry before making the sundae
The Larry Ogunjobie debacle should have been your first clue we picked the wrong guy again. Who would have thought a man who has consistently shown to be so careless on the details would also hire a coach with the same issue? Fire him into the sun.
Thank you! Finally! Even if you think Poles is average, the opportunity to hire a GM and coach in tandem outweighs any good he’s done. Then there’s all the terrible talent evaluation. Too many misses to ever win a Super Bowl. Pull the plug.
I’m 78. I go back to the 50’s with this team. It is ownership. They got lucky with Ditka. They fired Lovie Smith after a 10-6 season. They have two of the worst attributes. The won’t spend money on coaches and THEY DON’T KNOW WHAT THE HELL THEY ARE DOING!! Being a Bear fan is torture.
THE PLAYERS wanted Shayne Waldron GONE ! The BEARS PLAYERS didn’t Win ! Then THE PLAYERS wanted Matt Eberflus GONE ! The BEARS PLAYERS don’t BACKUP what They want !
@@FrankMarshall-d3i Exactly.....but the problem nobody wants to talk about is....the players make way...way...way too much money. That leads to a "I don't give a shit if we win...just let me get my stats and I'm happy" attitude. Then after the game we can kiss and hug each other from the other team and discuss how much money we won on ourselves playing fantasy football. The NFL is getting as bad as the God awful NBA !
The head coach and his culture were weak. He could not lead and because of that the players revolted and formed their own broken band of brothers with no of leadership. That allowed for them to instigate an over throw or a mutiny. The fact that was allowed to happen shows how weak the coaching staff was including Brown. The problem is while the individual players may be talented non of the talent has any leadership skills. Mentally they are weak and that falls on Poles not evaluating properly. That falls on the coach not holding them accountable. Most importantly it falls on players for not holding themselves accountable. The only fix is for a tyrant of a head coach to come in and beat the piss out of the players until moral improves. They have to be broken down mentally and reshaped in to selfless soldiers ready to jump on a grenade. Sadly ownership will stand in the way of that because it will be an ugly process for all the world to see and Virginia just can't have that. Most superficial fans won't be able to stomach it. I say as a fan of 53 years purge this weak a$$ sh*t from this franchise once and for all and lets get back to actually building something that resembles a successful football team. I can take it can you?
Ryan poles earlier this season said for my legacy my goal is to have Many GM S around the league THAT TRAINED UNDER ME. JUST THINK ABOUT LACK OF THE REALITY OF A STATMENT LIKE THAT. THAT SUMS UP EVERTHING.
Poles has to go. He chose Eberflus over pursuing Harbaugh. Gave big $$ to Moore, Sweat, Kmet, Johnson, Edmunds and ALL have regressed dramatically. Took Swift over Barkley or Henry & letting Montgomery walk. Can’t evaluate OL talent. Not to mention trading Smith for a 2 & trading it for a trash can WR. He has been a train wreck
@@leonydus9889smith is a 2x first team all pro in Baltimore. We know you don’t know shyt about football. Montgomery is the heart and soul of the lions. I’m getting sick of you couch potatoe zza analyst saying dumb shut
This headline is ridiculous. No, whoever comes in has staff for talent in place. Nobody is starting over. Get your minds right. Poles will get it right as he one of few who can. He no leaving. STOP... They were close. Too many consecutive close ones crushed them. Now experimentation begins schematically both sides of ball here on. Mejor de nada. See what D can do TO START....OL obvious but ......
Poles could be in denial about the team or fully aware of what’s going on. He’s not gonna tell the media!?! At least Not during the season anyway lol..he probably wouldn’t do it post season either as it’ll come off as unprofessional and he’ll get questioned about not doing anything about it. We don’t need poles to SEE what’s wrong, anyway.
Bears need to stop listening to the Media. You are part of the problem, this team has your loud opinions all over it. Now lets fire the GM so the next GM can tear down the team again and we start a new 4 year window. Im tired of this stupid cycle let by stupid decisions and a loud ass media calling for a new coach qb and gm every 3 years. Let me guess when we fire the GM. Caleb will be your next target by the end of next year.
make it make sense. everyone and their grandma thought this was a 9-10 win team, so we thought the talent was there right. now the PLAYERS aren't playing to their talent level and now poles is the one thats the problem?? first flus, now poles, what about the fucking players taking plays off, did poles lose the locker room? make it make sense
they could be killing it in practice and shart down their pants in the game. 2 things can be right at the same time. nate davis was a stud in tennesee did we forget? now he doesnt evaluate WRs very well he even eluded to it, thats why he got keenan.... the o line was playing well last year week 7 thru 17, so he thought okay they got their shit together right.. get rid of the garbage and then get a few descent pieces, now everyone playing like dogshit. what magical ball did he have to know ppl were gonna regress. isnt that on coaches to teach players how to play.. talent everywhere, thats poles... players taking plays off making business decisions thats on players and coaches tf are we doing.. 9-10 win team cuz talent should be great, means the gm did what hes supposed to do, now the team looks like shit, thats on the gm?.. just doesnt make sense i love you guys but your short term memory is astounding. build the team backwards okay. thought wright was gonna look better this year, braxton is serviceable/pretty good, tevin regressed. thats not on poles. one minute tevin sucks next minute hes great, well thats on poles he should have known tevin sucked in the future??? you guys are way too high for podcasting lol. this fanbase doesnt know jack shit either. playoff team so much talent everywhere then players suck and coaching sucks, fire coach, players still suck, the gm knew this would happen?? even tho poles and flus were brought here together, you think it took 2 days for poles to be like, yea dan quinn isnt as good as flus lol, lets take the nice guy lol. poles wants him gone last year and after patriots game but someone..... (george) says no im not paying someone else even tho i fucked up.. im only worth 6 billion, 12 million is alot of money, oh yea lets spend 2 billion on a stadium....wtf are we doing. you want ryan pace back, send 3 1st rounders for khalil mack lmao. as you can tell im about done with the bears, the media, and the fucking fanbase that have zero common sense.. am i the only one with a brain or what..
"The culture, the people won't let the foundation crack." If I hear another Bears executive say they have culture, I'm going to throw up. Poles is turning into Pace.
Velus Jones, Chase Claypool, Tyler Scott, drafted a punter instead of a lineman, bad free agency signings, going against his word about building through the trenches first...what more does a GM need to do to get fired.
Ownership is still living in 1965 Kevin Warren was brought in to get a new stadium. No deal and no shovels in the ground. Ryan Poles was a O-lineman himself and can't evaluate O-lineman. He hangs his hat on taking advantage of a worse franchise in the Panthers. Oh yeah, and coaches had to be fired last year and this year. Who gets the blame for that??? The only wayt to get their house in order is to burn it all down and start over, starting with a new ownership. This team will never succeed otherwise. We just keep seeing the same results in new packaging. McCaskey has all this pride of having a flagship franchise, but won't run it like one.
I can assure you it won’t. Waddle hit the nail with ownership meddling. Even if poles makes the right decision George will override it because he just can’t get off the power trip. This franchise is doomed.
Man Chicago needs to stop wanting to move on from GM's every freaking time things don't go right. No, Poles needs to stay. Me, personally I would've have traded Justin. I would have used that #1 pick and traded down a couple times to get multiple picks and shored up the O Line. The Bears have the offensive weapons. It's the line and the defense has regressed. He should've fixed the trenches. Think about this. Without all the offensive weapons we won 7 games last year. Poles has done a more than decent job. What's this year 3? Calm down. Let the man work. I'm sure he knows the OLine needs to be fixed. And that s better than good head coach is needed. We need a young Offensive minded OC. And I think we need a more alpha male for yet DC. We'll he fine. Waddle and Silvy - lighten up. It'll be fine. Next year will be much better.
@GrayCrosby did i not say the defense has regressed? Or, are you blind? But what does that have to do with the entirety of my post? Which is don't panic The Bears will be fine next year.
Not sure they will be fine but maybe. Fields was/is bad but there is something to be said about building up trenches before drafting a QB. Hopefully, CW makes it awesome
Bro Caleb is miles better than a Justin, he made the right move, he should have went Oline instead of getting odunze, the reason Detroit is so good is because they have the best Oline in the nfl, the eagles have been good because they have a great Oline, no offense will work with a bad Oline, especially the interior
@Jay-ci4to that's your opinion. Mine he's not better than Justin. He does nothing better than Justin. But Poles made the move. I wouldn't have. I'd had traded the 1st pick got more picks and went down some more and got more picks in the 1st round and got OLine help. We still had the 4th pick as well. We still could've gotten Odunze. But the line would have been better.
@ he’s better than Justin in comparing his first year to Justin’s third. He actually shows up in the 4th quarter and makes throws. Same issue taking sacks though. If CW stays like this it’s not good. I’m assuming he will improve. Fields didn’t improve much. He just can’t really pass
Thomas Brown is a scapegoat to lose out this season and secure the best draft order. He wasn’t chosen to be the next Bears HC, but a bridge. Idk what’s gonna happen next season, but I’m trying to be positive while suffering in Bears hell!
Can the locker room not be excited, be united, and have good practices, all while still losing? Can the players not believe in themselves and then get beat by better coached teams? You had Eberlose and then a 1st HC game from a man who was a passing coordinator 3.5 weeks ago. I’m tired of the scapegoating by the Chicago media, it’s Waldron! It’s flus! Now it’s poles? Give the team the offseason, give them Ben Johnson, and give them highly touted rookies and new vets in the trenches. God this city is miserable to listen to.
Caleb sucks. He can’t get rid of the ball… takes way to many sacks. 56 sacks in 13 games if laughable even if the offensive line sucks. 4 yards in thr 1st half last week is the butt of all the jokes from everyone around the NFL this week.
Caleb was the wrong pick , poles had not done anything good. He lucked into the first pick. Hire someone who has been a GM and someone who has been a head coach
Stf! If it weren't for Poles...we wouldnt have D.J. More, Rome, Caleb, Allen, Swift. I can go on. Been watching for over 20yrs, the bears just now tryna spend money on real studs. Hes the best GM we had in 25yrs 🤞🏿 we need o-line and somebody to lay straight wood out the secondary 🫶🏿 Bear down
He swapped roquan and Mack for Edmunds and Sweat. Which are two vastly inferior players at the same exact positions….he has not done nearly a good job building this roster as you think….Allen and swift were also not good acquisitions
Need a replacement for Braxton/ Nate Davis / Shelton AND Teven if not resigned .. almost your whole OLine needs replacement that’s unacceptable going into year 4
Every year the team gets worse under his leadership. He didn’t want to sign roquan because he wanted to save money ended up with Edmonds. A really bad linebacker he paid a lot of money so many other picked none picked . Look what he’s done for the offensive line. He’s broken this team more then anybody else
Roquan is an all pro in a 3-4 scheme. As he was. Bears switched to a 4-3 Trash ass tampa 2 scheme. Which moved him to wlb And he struggled. Edmunds olayed in a 4-3 in buffalo, but not Tampa 2 Thry olayed attack man and he flew all over the field. Eagles played a wide 9 scheme that edwards was in. Poles signed good guys just to play in an out dated terrible scheme. You need all pro dl in tampa 2 in 2024
I die inside when I hear anyone other than players talk about how good they've practiced. I don't want to hear that when you get effed in the A on game day. I don't know how an organization can be this dysfunctional? Cripes...
No! Disagree!!! Da Bears need to move on from ESPN Chicago as radio partners, which I'm 💯 sure they're going to. The beginning of the end for dying radio
Facts!!!! These guys are becoming caricatures of 90 and 00s radio buffoons. I've lost all respect for this station and their content this last year. 🤔 🤔 🤔 There are some underlying tones of ....... filtering through. Time for change.
Pay Belicheck what he wants, let him bring in a GM of his choice, and any coaches he wants for his staff. Tell him them to build the next dynasty. Done.
what multiple 1st rounders did poles sign again? i forget, did poles make 1 of the best trades in history and were still getting quality players from that 1 decision i forgot
@@mobobrien4934the bigger picture is concerning. Maybe not pace but Angelo 2.0 fs (flashes of good fortune) missing out on Jalen Carter bc of “character issues” and keeping Pringle on your squad after an arrest are things that make me side eye bro.
@@isthatyoujaunwayne4183 I understand but if Darnell wright was a show stopper, you wouldn't be on poles as about getting wright over Carter. And he's been pretty good. Last 2 games hasn't given up a pressure. I think he gave up 1 vs Vikings. So 3 games gave up 1 pressure?. He's not Larry borum man he's good. Problem with lineman is if it's a silent day, it's not a glaring issue so we don't really see it, but if he's Shelton getting blown out the water or Braxton (who's solid at times and then not so much) getting beat around the edge or bull rushed we see it as a problem. Braxton has been pretty good and wright has been really good. I think Chris Morgan getting run game coordinator fucked up the line, now he's focusing on extra shit, just like flus, and Thomas Brown. Give someone more on their plate and what looked good before now looks like shit.
This team got smoked by a bunch of 3rd stringers. Poles mis evaluated Mooney, James Daniel’s , let him walk. He over values his own players and doesn’t appreciate the players that were already given to him.
is that why he sign jaylon johnson? mooney was a dark horse, not used right by the o coordinator and made mooney look bad but also really bad seperation by him last year to be fair
I know a million other people have said it but it starts at the top with ownership. We have a mom and Pop operation competing with some of the most ruthless, successful and more importantly cash liquid businessmen on earth. It’s no surprise we’re uncompetitive.
A 2024 study by Steven Patton ranked Ryan Poles second in net value gained through trades since 2020, highlighting his effective trade strategies. In terms of hits, misses, and busts he's about league average. THE GRASS IS NOT ALWAYS GREENER, people. You can't just fire your way to success. Firing is not a strategy. Half the GMs in the NFL are worse at their job than Poles. Not saying he can't be criticized. I think he brings in way too many beta type dudes, for example. 2025 is the year he solidifies his identity. I try to keep in mind he's a 1st time GM and is taking his lumps as a young newbie.
If true, could this be the worst possible destination for Caleb? If he somehow manages to succeed over the next four years, I wouldn’t blame him for walking away. It’s got to be in the DNA of this franchise. I promised myself I’d quit the Bears if that happens and start rooting for a CFL team. This is just insane.
What do you want him to do? Once he decided to stick with Flus, as GM, the die was cast. A GM has very little control of the team during the season. So the only thing he can do is provide canned answers until the off-season. Firing the OC and HC/DC is going to strain resources and tank the season.
What a silly argument, there's no way he's going to do an interview and say that the team is lost or unfocused. THAT would destroy his credibility with them. Behind closed doors is where he'd be honest about what he's seeing. C'mon guys
Hes had 3yrs to fix the oline 2023 draft had 10 starting centers. Passed each time 2024 had a few centers more guards available. Drafting wright was okay at the time but he has not shown any signs in 2yrs of being elite. Braxton jones has peaked Tevin cant stay healthy Davis quit basically andthe people they drafted, traded for, signed 1. Are bad 2. Cant stay healthy 3. Dont fix anything He drafted a fuckin punter in rd 4 over needing OL n DE help Again.
DJ Moore: dropped a ball that hit him in the chest. Cole Kmet: dropped a ball that hit him in the chest. Keenan Allen: dropped a ball that hit him in the chest. Maybe if you attach their game check to the football, they’ll stop dropping dimes. 🐻 ⬇️
Theres a commentator who said "The Bears need to find a new coach cause Eberflus will have destroyed 2 really good QB's in Fields and Williams". Um I'm glad Eberflus was fired and deserved to be. BUT Caleb "Sure fire #1 pick" Williams is starting to look like a bust! Let the excuses begin!
The bears hired bill polian for colts n chiefs gm And a DEI personnel lady to find a gm n hc. Polian wanted them to hire morroco brown and matt eberflus. The dei lady wanted ryan poles. So they split the difference As poles n Eberflus both had trace Armstrong as an agent. They let poles opt to interview others and he settled on eberflus based off their recommendation. He did have a phone call with kubiak. Quinn had already backed out.
@@jaemillz7145DEI are not an issue in this case. Poles and Warren are good hires and definitely qualifiedfor the jobs they are in. I think it is tough for a GM to try an manage a head coach that has a relationship with the team owner. The head coach can go over the GM's and team presidents head. The most important thing for Poles to do is hire a head coach that has the toughness of a Hank Stram and Iron Mike Ditka. The Bears are in a tough division and need a head coach that is tougher than the division. The Bears need a hard azz no nonsense guy. Is that guy Belichick, Marcus Freeman, Ben Johnson, Vrabel, Dan Lanning, Prime Time Sanders, Flores? The interview process is going to have to be thorough. The Bears need an azz hole for a head coach.
Why not change the GM and hire Louis Riddick as the next GM? If they want make him the assistant GM until the position opens up, which is sooner than later.
But now the QB wasn’t drafted by the new GM and Coach so Williams is F*cked. I have had a second home in Wisconsin since 1989 and I’m so stupid I’m still a Bears Fan. I give up.
you keep poles till year 3 of caleb. that’s what a normal team would do. if the qb is good then keep the gm around to build around him. that’s logical.
@@HRGreenShark that would be yet another very stupid decisions. that means the next GM would just use Caleb and all the players poles signed as an excuse for losing. you be forced to give the next GM 2 years of Caleb and then 2 years of the QB he drafts, which mean potentially 4 more years of losing before you fire that GM. You dont get anything by firing poles. also, its obvious that he's brought a ton of talent into the org. anyways. i've almost come to the conclusion that the Bears will do the WRONG thing cuz they really are one of the dumbest organizations in sport.
Poles stuck by Flus when we all saw he was a bad coach last year, he discarded Justin Fields because he wasn’t “his guy”, drafted Caleb (who I do think is better and the right decision) but arrogantly assumed he would just step in as a rookie and save the team. Didn’t build either line, has a Ryan Bates infatuation and somehow interviewed and hired Shane Waldron. If not for the horrible owner at the Panthers this wouldn’t even be a discussion he’s bad… cut bait and marry the GM and HC
Playing SF right after an unprecedented coaching change was actually a perfect situation to expose this management. If they'd played a creampuff, loser team and won, there would be great false hopes in the new install. Poles would feel vindicated and fans would be gaslit into wicked expectations of better days ahead. But, luckily, they played a very well-run 49ers team, with some issues, but built on a great foundation. The Bears were humiliated in front of the world. The Bears were exposed as complete failures, desperately seeking relevance with last-ditch efforts. They showed the world their organization is built upon sand, slippery, viscous DEI sand. It's all collapsing upon itself because there's no competent foundation. Poles is an amateur. The president is clueless about football. The owners inherited their fortune and don't even know how to make money themselves or compete. The coaching staff is whipped butter, appearing more than it is. The players see the incompetence and they've lost confidence or desire. The franchise QB is learning the curse of his new team. There's nothing to build upon in the entire outfit. It's a pile of old spaghetti without sauce, drying up in a cold pot. This is beyond embarrassing. I don't know how the McCaskeys stay hidden or silent. Don't they care at all? Does anyone have passion in that storied franchise? Won't anyone have the guts to admit failure and put their reputation on the line and apologize to fans? This ownership is gutless. They are beyond losers. They are cowardly mediocrities. Anyone with self-respect and integrity would face the music, admit their horrendous failure and vow to never let this happen again. But the McCaskeys are GUTLESS, INCOMPETENT COWARDS!!! We despise you! I will never give this team a cent until the McCaskeys get the F out of the business, forever. F the Chicago Bears. L-O-S-E-R-S
Y’all act like he didn’t sign Montez Sweat, Deandre Swift, Keenan Allen, drafted Tyriq Stevenson, Rome Odunze. And wanted to fire Flus. Name ONE Bears GM that comes close! The issue was coaching plain and simple.
That is NOT a good list. Sweat has been AWFUL this year, Keenan cost a 4th rounder, Swift is an overpaid scatback, Stevenson is an immature PUNK. I like Odunze but a LT would have been a better idea.
@@GrayCrosby Honestly Swift looks like he could excel running in Shanahan's offense in SF. He can make that cut and GO. In Chicago he doesn't have much of a chance. He's not a banger.
Poles talking to the media is a front, GET OVER IT. I wouldn't fire this guy, he is signing the right guys and making good decisions for the teams future. I think it is foolish to fire a GM for how he is responding to the media.
What I want to know is what assurances does the McCaskey family have that they are ok with the Estate/Inheritance tax that will be applied to their clan once Virginia passes? Otherwise, sell the team, keep all of the proceeds, and bring a winning culture back to Chicago.
You guys are out of your effing minds!! This sounds just like the firing of Lovie Smith! You guys know the only common denominator, but you focus on the guy that finally brought us a quarterback!!! I HATE CHICAGO MEDIA
All y’all are dumb Do you not realise it takes more than 2 and half seasons to completely rebuild a team? My god Poles is doing an excellent job Takes 3/4 seasons to build a new team Trust the process
I expect this silliness from some fans, but I expect much more from these guys. When a team sucks, you fire whoever you can fire and hope for the best. When the real problem is the owner, you go through this silly circle jerk firing cycle every few years. Obviously nothing will ever get better doing that, you want a fix, you need to know/admit the real problem. The Bears can be a great team again when the McCaskey's take the 6 billion and go away. Waddle knows that but can not/will not say it.
I'm with letting him go, first words out his mouth was we're gonna build through the trenches and never give the north back, 3 yrs in you've really done nothing to help the trenches and missed on alot of players....
Man, for the most part, I was a Poles advocate. But the garbage this year and his insistence that Flus and his mousse was the guy may bury him. I think you have to extend him (not advisable), or launch him. You can’t hire a coach and give him a 5 year deal while the GM has 2 years left. Will just create more disillusionment with prospective candidates. They need a kick ass guy with experience who will hold these guys accountable. Vrabel comes to mind, maybe Flores. But Flores would have to answer what he’s learned from the Tua debacle? Is he going to continually yank Caleb if he struggling and put in the backup at other random times?
Ryan Paul's drafts not to lose.He does not draft to win And it is a difference in drafting not to lose in drafting to win. When you draft, not to lose absolutely, you pick mediocre serviceable players. When you draft to win, you go out and get the dogs you need. He does not draft alpha's.I don't know why. Draft 2 draft to win not to play
Poles got lucky with the Panthers trade and I give him credit for Caleb but what else has he done? His first picks in the draft after stressing building through the trenches….secondary with both 2nds including the pick for Mack. Still rather have Mack than Brisker.
@@TyrellBlavk lucky they gave him so much and ended up with the #1 pick. Couldn’t have predicted that so that’s how it’s lucky. He wasn’t dumb enough to trade the pick away or draft Jayden so he gets a little credit.
Leave it to Bears fans/media to want to fire the GM 3 years in after completely tearing down the roster in year 1. So we’re giving him 2 years? Look at the talent on the roster pre-teardown and 2 years into the rebuild. Poles said when he was hired “we are building through the draft”. Everyone cheered this statement then saying “you dont win by winning free agency”. Now everyone is flip flopping and demanding we spend in free agency and win now. Stop it, you all sound like clowns.
You guys blaming poles are clowns...poles is the best gm the bears have ever had - by a landslide...decades of inept Gm's hasnt taught you fools a thing, bad trades, bad draft picks, bad coaching hires. Now we have a young ascending team on team friendly contracts. GM's cant play or coach, they can only stack the roster and hope the coaches and players make it happen.
I was really a poles believer but take away the Caleb Williams trade and he has got no top players in draft. Dj and sweat were FA acquisitions and they are our best players.
Lmfao at you guys wanting him to tell the truth about the team. If he did that you would blast him for throwing the team under the bus. Stop being dumb, sports media.
I am a broken record. We will not get better until the McCaskeys are no longer in charge of this team. They are clueless on how to run a successful football team.
You’re right. They should sell, but they will never sell. We have to find a solution. We’re incompetent. The only hope we have is to get really lucky. Sad but true
They just hired a team president that has the control of the team. Whatever it takes to win is what he was told.
I'm a broken record too. They're not selling the team
@@stuartanthony9435 He might be the only hope. Obviously George likes and respects him. Warren has to convince him that a coach’s salary is no problem. If Poles isn’t wanted by a big time guy, he has to go too. I don’t hate Poles but doubling down on Flus and his mousse after some egregiously awful losses last year is a fireable offense.
You might be a broken record, but at least you are correct.
Poles is too soft man, I am sick of this chaos
How long has Poles been here? How long has this been going on? What is the common denominator? Ask yourself these questions and all roads point to George and the McASSkeys, end of story
@@Keithjhall Poles is a dummy for taking this job. They saddled him with Flus. Even Pace didn't want Fox. But yes, George the boy blunder is the problem
He falls in love with his picks and over evaluates their talent. What input does Ian Cunningham have I wonder. They absolutely should not let him be involved in the next draft or pick the next head coach.
Pole’s biggest mistakes:1)not building o line 2)let Montgomery and Roquan Smith go 3)hiring Eberfluse passing Harbar
poles was talking to harbaugh(actually how you spell it) and warren and mccaskey turned him down. harbaugh said he was in talks with the bears. you think warren was talking to him? how about mccaskey?? genius i tell you. warren said i dont like him, he mean to me.. george said too much money, just stick with flus
Monty and Roquan we’re mid
There's more how about trading a second round pick for a receiver who sucked how about trading a fourth round pick for a receiver you're going to let go who only played seven games this year how about trading a fourth round pick for an offensive lineman to play out of position. Remember there's not one GM there's two Chicago is two GMs and they both suck
All lies bruh you guys are funny😂
Exactly who did they replace Roquan with? injured reserve all star Noah Sewell and and a little above average Dexter. Montgomery they has some resemblance of a power running game. Team is a joke. I'd take Pace over Poles at least he went to 2 playoff games
This Bears offense has turned into one of the worst offenses I’ve seen us ever have.
In the last 7 games, we’ve been held score less in the 1st half, 3 times. In fact our star QB hasn’t thrown a TD pass in the 1st half once in the last 7 games!!! We’ve been held scoreless in the 2nd half twice. We’ve had the lead in only 3 of those games. This team needs to be rebuilt in so many ways and poles is not the one to do it
I’ve been saying this for months now, Poles is the problem - take away the good/lucky deal with Carolina and his moves are all questionable to say the least.. Nate Davis, Claypool, bad O-Line signings, Velus Jones, extending Kmet, drafting a punter in 4th, Darnell Wright is an average right tackle that was taken in top 10! Edmunds instead of Roquan, the list goes on and the cherry on top of this mess is obviously his picking and sticking with Eberflus
That punter has kept us in some games this year
wright, brisker, gordon, trading for sweat are very good moves.
trading roquan for gervin dexter and having money to get edmonds and edwards was a great move.
@@GrayCrosby yes. what does that have to do with anything? its just been an awful year. shit happens in the NFL. the Chargers have the same roster as last year and are amazing. The Browns went to the play offs and now suck - so do the Bengals.
its a wild league with lots of ups and downs.
The Bears will be fine. We are in year 3 of a TOTAL rebuild.
By next year the bears will have 2 players on this roster from when poles took over: JJ & Kmet. thats what the old regime left him. We are a very very young team with a rookie QB. but i am not about to fire the man that brought in: Caleb, Rome, DJ, Allen, Swift, Wright, Sweat, Dex, Edmonds, Edwards, Gordon & Brisker. we know these guys can play. just keep adding to the oline and dline and get a #1 every down RB.
And get a real NFL coach: Johnson, Vrabel, Bill, etc. we'll be fine.
We have 60M to spend and 3 top 45 draft picks.
if they dont win some games next year with a real coach and year 2 of caleb then we can start crying
@ wright average, brisker injury prone, sweat definitely not living up to his paycheck this year.. I might give you Gordon but that’s 1 out of 4
Dexter has 5 total sacks (45th in the league) and can’t stop the run… what’s so ‘great’ about him? That he’s better than he was last year? Whoop-tie do. Don’t get me started on Edmonds. Most overpaid player on this team. I would pay the extra for Roquan.
Poles didn’t pick flus, mcaskey did, poles mistake was to retain. But he wanted to fire him earlier.
Don’t let Chicago anger throw the baby out with the bathwater
Aside from the trade that got us Caleb, Poles has been a disaster
Caleb needs to be an all-pro for that to be the case. Should have traded R1#1 in '24 for a truckload of draft capital that could be leveraged for many seasons to come. Nope. We got Caleb instead. Lets hope he's above-average.
They would've fucked up all those draft picks. Front office sucks at scouting talent
@@DiabloG-ll4scthis unfortunately is true
Finally someone speaking the same language !!! Great comment!!
@@RokDocJekyl he has more touchdowns, less int's, more yards, more sacks cuz the o line regressed, and better rating than fields.. but not an upgrade even tho fields was a running back... brilliant
First it was the OC, then it was the HC, now it’s the GM. They could hire the best coach that ever existed and this team would still suck.
THE TEAM WAS BUILT BY THIS GM!!!
@@NCMonefaith and before the season started everyone and their grandma said this was a 9-10 win team?? why was that?? top 5 defense, great qb coming in. and the team sucks now. thats on poles? if we thought poles was braindead like you we would have said 2 winns maybe 3 tops but no. we thought there was talent. the coaches gotta teach, the players gotta show up.. if we thought there was talent before, that means the gm did his job. tell me you dont know anything without actually telling me
@@mobobrien4934 poles also responsible for making sure the right coaching is place. No other team in the league would have even hired eberflus in the first place much less keep him around with a wizard like harbaugh available. They’re total 🤡
No team, no matter how talented, can go thru the turmoil this team has, with the soul-crushing losses because of their dimwit head coach who is here because of the GM! ...And play like how we want them to, or even how their potential would allow them to play... They're being led by a businessman Warren, a never-been O-lineman/1st time GM, a first-time D Coordinator play caller, and a first time interim HC (who not even 3 weeks ago was the freakin Passing Game Coordinator! I don't care if it was Mahomes and the Chiefs, they'd suck too!
@@mobobrien4934Thank you!! They pissing me off with these Poles takes
Poles needs to go! All anyone has to do is take a look at the Bears wins & losses since Poles took over. Not good! While division rivals have improved.
yes I agree. Now they need to get Riddick into the fold.
You guys shilled for Poles so I’m surprised you two are backtracking now
Poles, the only guy that didn't recognize that there is no Offensive line for Fields and Caleb.
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time to throw last year 2.8 seconds. 3rd best in the league.. thats average of all 17 games.. that means o line is holding up. now o line regressed, is poles the one thats gotta teach the team or am i missing somthing?? thought this was a 9-10 win team?? if we thought 9-10 wins then that means theres talent right, sooooo poles did his job right? but now team is phoning it in now poles bad???????
@@mobobrien4934 You're missing the fact that 156 sacks given up in three years, and this season is not over yet. In fact, might just break David Carr's record of 76.
He actually said it was the deepest line ever before the season... He built the team backwards and we tried to see the best in him, but now he's just a first-time GM who is soft AF and wanted the cherry before making the sundae
@@mobobrien4934should've kept Fields and built the line .. disrupted team chemistry
Silvy crys alot. It's getting old
agreed
And you’re the idiot still giving the bears your time and money.
The Larry Ogunjobie debacle should have been your first clue we picked the wrong guy again. Who would have thought a man who has consistently shown to be so careless on the details would also hire a coach with the same issue? Fire him into the sun.
Thank you! Finally!
Even if you think Poles is average, the opportunity to hire a GM and coach in tandem outweighs any good he’s done.
Then there’s all the terrible talent evaluation.
Too many misses to ever win a Super Bowl. Pull the plug.
I’m 78. I go back to the 50’s with this team. It is ownership. They got lucky with Ditka. They fired Lovie Smith after a 10-6 season. They have two of the worst attributes. The won’t spend money on coaches and THEY DON’T KNOW WHAT THE HELL THEY ARE DOING!! Being a Bear fan is torture.
Couldn’t agree more, bears tradition is a Trojan horse
THE PLAYERS wanted Shayne Waldron GONE ! The BEARS PLAYERS didn’t Win ! Then THE PLAYERS wanted Matt Eberflus GONE ! The BEARS PLAYERS don’t BACKUP what They want !
big fax
And we know why the players didn't want these coaches!!
@@FrankMarshall-d3i Exactly.....but the problem nobody wants to talk about is....the players make way...way...way too much money. That leads to a "I don't give a shit if we win...just let me get my stats and I'm happy" attitude. Then after the game we can kiss and hug each other from the other team and discuss how much money we won on ourselves playing fantasy football. The NFL is getting as bad as the God awful NBA !
The head coach and his culture were weak. He could not lead and because of that the players revolted and formed their own broken band of brothers with no of leadership. That allowed for them to instigate an over throw or a mutiny. The fact that was allowed to happen shows how weak the coaching staff was including Brown. The problem is while the individual players may be talented non of the talent has any leadership skills. Mentally they are weak and that falls on Poles not evaluating properly. That falls on the coach not holding them accountable. Most importantly it falls on players for not holding themselves accountable. The only fix is for a tyrant of a head coach to come in and beat the piss out of the players until moral improves. They have to be broken down mentally and reshaped in to selfless soldiers ready to jump on a grenade. Sadly ownership will stand in the way of that because it will be an ugly process for all the world to see and Virginia just can't have that. Most superficial fans won't be able to stomach it. I say as a fan of 53 years purge this weak a$$ sh*t from this franchise once and for all and lets get back to actually building something that resembles a successful football team. I can take it can you?
Ryan poles earlier this season said for my legacy my goal is to have Many GM S around the league THAT TRAINED UNDER ME. JUST THINK ABOUT LACK OF THE REALITY OF A STATMENT LIKE THAT. THAT SUMS UP EVERTHING.
Poles gotta go... Too many bad moves, too delusional. Wish him the best but he gotta go. 🚪
Poles has to go. He chose Eberflus over pursuing Harbaugh. Gave big $$ to Moore, Sweat, Kmet, Johnson, Edmunds and ALL have regressed dramatically. Took Swift over Barkley or Henry & letting Montgomery walk. Can’t evaluate OL talent. Not to mention trading Smith for a 2 & trading it for a trash can WR. He has been a train wreck
you can't throw out GM after 3 years that didn't pick his own head coach and has drafted and traded this well
Gaypool😭
Warren shot down the Jim Harbaugh interview, not Poles
Monty was mid and so was smith
@@leonydus9889smith is a 2x first team all pro in Baltimore. We know you don’t know shyt about football. Montgomery is the heart and soul of the lions. I’m getting sick of you couch potatoe zza analyst saying dumb shut
If Poles leaves the Bears, fired or resigns he would never get a GM job again. So of course he would want t make it work.
All of you were praising Poles for 2 years, he walked on water and all of a sudden everything he has done is wrong
This headline is ridiculous. No, whoever comes in has staff for talent in place. Nobody is starting over. Get your minds right. Poles will get it right as he one of few who can. He no leaving. STOP... They were close. Too many consecutive close ones crushed them. Now experimentation begins schematically both sides of ball here on. Mejor de nada. See what D can do TO START....OL obvious but ......
Bears media is the worst. They wanna fire people so fast. Not sayin some didn’t deserve it, but Poles is not one..
Poles could be in denial about the team or fully aware of what’s going on. He’s not gonna tell the media!?! At least Not during the season anyway lol..he probably wouldn’t do it post season either as it’ll come off as unprofessional and he’ll get questioned about not doing anything about it. We don’t need poles to SEE what’s wrong, anyway.
Bears need to stop listening to the Media. You are part of the problem, this team has your loud opinions all over it. Now lets fire the GM so the next GM can tear down the team again and we start a new 4 year window. Im tired of this stupid cycle let by stupid decisions and a loud ass media calling for a new coach qb and gm every 3 years. Let me guess when we fire the GM. Caleb will be your next target by the end of next year.
make it make sense. everyone and their grandma thought this was a 9-10 win team, so we thought the talent was there right. now the PLAYERS aren't playing to their talent level and now poles is the one thats the problem?? first flus, now poles, what about the fucking players taking plays off, did poles lose the locker room? make it make sense
they could be killing it in practice and shart down their pants in the game. 2 things can be right at the same time. nate davis was a stud in tennesee did we forget? now he doesnt evaluate WRs very well he even eluded to it, thats why he got keenan.... the o line was playing well last year week 7 thru 17, so he thought okay they got their shit together right.. get rid of the garbage and then get a few descent pieces, now everyone playing like dogshit. what magical ball did he have to know ppl were gonna regress. isnt that on coaches to teach players how to play.. talent everywhere, thats poles... players taking plays off making business decisions thats on players and coaches tf are we doing.. 9-10 win team cuz talent should be great, means the gm did what hes supposed to do, now the team looks like shit, thats on the gm?.. just doesnt make sense i love you guys but your short term memory is astounding. build the team backwards okay. thought wright was gonna look better this year, braxton is serviceable/pretty good, tevin regressed. thats not on poles. one minute tevin sucks next minute hes great, well thats on poles he should have known tevin sucked in the future??? you guys are way too high for podcasting lol. this fanbase doesnt know jack shit either. playoff team so much talent everywhere then players suck and coaching sucks, fire coach, players still suck, the gm knew this would happen?? even tho poles and flus were brought here together, you think it took 2 days for poles to be like, yea dan quinn isnt as good as flus lol, lets take the nice guy lol. poles wants him gone last year and after patriots game but someone..... (george) says no im not paying someone else even tho i fucked up.. im only worth 6 billion, 12 million is alot of money, oh yea lets spend 2 billion on a stadium....wtf are we doing. you want ryan pace back, send 3 1st rounders for khalil mack lmao. as you can tell im about done with the bears, the media, and the fucking fanbase that have zero common sense.. am i the only one with a brain or what..
Mister Rogers is a great guy but I wouldn’t want him as head coach of the Bears.
"The culture, the people won't let the foundation crack." If I hear another Bears executive say they have culture, I'm going to throw up. Poles is turning into Pace.
Velus Jones, Chase Claypool, Tyler Scott, drafted a punter instead of a lineman, bad free agency signings, going against his word about building through the trenches first...what more does a GM need to do to get fired.
Ownership is still living in 1965
Kevin Warren was brought in to get a new stadium. No deal and no shovels in the ground.
Ryan Poles was a O-lineman himself and can't evaluate O-lineman. He hangs his hat on taking advantage of a worse franchise in the Panthers.
Oh yeah, and coaches had to be fired last year and this year. Who gets the blame for that???
The only wayt to get their house in order is to burn it all down and start over, starting with a new ownership. This team will never succeed otherwise. We just keep seeing the same results in new packaging. McCaskey has all this pride of having a flagship franchise, but won't run it like one.
You guys are unbelievable. This time next year you will be singing his praises from the rooftops if the next HC hiring hits.
I can assure you it won’t. Waddle hit the nail with ownership meddling. Even if poles makes the right decision George will override it because he just can’t get off the power trip. This franchise is doomed.
Man Chicago needs to stop wanting to move on from GM's every freaking time things don't go right. No, Poles needs to stay. Me, personally I would've have traded Justin. I would have used that #1 pick and traded down a couple times to get multiple picks and shored up the O Line. The Bears have the offensive weapons. It's the line and the defense has regressed. He should've fixed the trenches. Think about this. Without all the offensive weapons we won 7 games last year. Poles has done a more than decent job. What's this year 3? Calm down. Let the man work. I'm sure he knows the OLine needs to be fixed. And that s better than good head coach is needed. We need a young Offensive minded OC. And I think we need a more alpha male for yet DC. We'll he fine. Waddle and Silvy - lighten up. It'll be fine. Next year will be much better.
@GrayCrosby did i not say the defense has regressed? Or, are you blind? But what does that have to do with the entirety of my post? Which is don't panic The Bears will be fine next year.
Not sure they will be fine but maybe. Fields was/is bad but there is something to be said about building up trenches before drafting a QB. Hopefully, CW makes it awesome
Bro Caleb is miles better than a Justin, he made the right move, he should have went Oline instead of getting odunze, the reason Detroit is so good is because they have the best Oline in the nfl, the eagles have been good because they have a great Oline, no offense will work with a bad Oline, especially the interior
@Jay-ci4to that's your opinion. Mine he's not better than Justin. He does nothing better than Justin. But Poles made the move. I wouldn't have. I'd had traded the 1st pick got more picks and went down some more and got more picks in the 1st round and got OLine help. We still had the 4th pick as well. We still could've gotten Odunze. But the line would have been better.
@ he’s better than Justin in comparing his first year to Justin’s third. He actually shows up in the 4th quarter and makes throws. Same issue taking sacks though. If CW stays like this it’s not good. I’m assuming he will improve. Fields didn’t improve much. He just can’t really pass
Bears are all about PR.
Thomas Brown is a scapegoat to lose out this season and secure the best draft order. He wasn’t chosen to be the next Bears HC, but a bridge. Idk what’s gonna happen next season, but I’m trying to be positive while suffering in Bears hell!
Another Matt and Ryan was creepy should have been an obvious outcome.
Can the locker room not be excited, be united, and have good practices, all while still losing?
Can the players not believe in themselves and then get beat by better coached teams?
You had Eberlose and then a 1st HC game from a man who was a passing coordinator 3.5 weeks ago.
I’m tired of the scapegoating by the Chicago media, it’s Waldron! It’s flus! Now it’s poles?
Give the team the offseason, give them Ben Johnson, and give them highly touted rookies and new vets in the trenches. God this city is miserable to listen to.
holy overreact
Completely disagree, wouldn’t even have Caleb Williams without Ryan Poles
Caleb sucks. He can’t get rid of the ball… takes way to many sacks. 56 sacks in 13 games if laughable even if the offensive line sucks. 4 yards in thr 1st half last week is the butt of all the jokes from everyone around the NFL this week.
Caleb the coach and gm killer 😂
Caleb was the wrong pick , poles had not done anything good. He lucked into the first pick. Hire someone who has been a GM and someone who has been a head coach
Stf! If it weren't for Poles...we wouldnt have D.J. More, Rome, Caleb, Allen, Swift. I can go on. Been watching for over 20yrs, the bears just now tryna spend money on real studs. Hes the best GM we had in 25yrs 🤞🏿 we need o-line and somebody to lay straight wood out the secondary 🫶🏿 Bear down
He swapped roquan and Mack for Edmunds and Sweat. Which are two vastly inferior players at the same exact positions….he has not done nearly a good job building this roster as you think….Allen and swift were also not good acquisitions
We won 4 games you are delusional
Poles has done a lot more for this team than any GM since JV. Let's let Poles do his job without his hands tied!
Ro didn't even want to be here
@@trappakeepa2015 he doesnt call plays. He gets playera that fit the coaches and teams needs. Which he did. But the coaches have sucked. Not on him.
"A great week of practice" has been the catchphrase of every Bears coach and management person for the last 20 years
Need a replacement for Braxton/ Nate Davis / Shelton AND Teven if not resigned .. almost your whole OLine needs replacement that’s unacceptable going into year 4
Don’t forget Trading Justin
That was pure ego and legacy and it’s going horrible as people warned it would
What do you mean? Justin fields was absolute trash and still is trash lmao typical delusional Chicago fan
@@leonydus9889bustin fields aint gonna be in the nfl in 2yrs 😂😂😂
Every year the team gets worse under his leadership. He didn’t want to sign roquan because he wanted to save money ended up with Edmonds. A really bad linebacker he paid a lot of money so many other picked none picked . Look what he’s done for the offensive line. He’s broken this team more then anybody else
to be fair edmonds was a stud at buffalo.. poles doesnt have a crystal ball like you did to know players would regress in the future
Roquan is an all pro in a 3-4 scheme. As he was. Bears switched to a 4-3
Trash ass tampa 2 scheme.
Which moved him to wlb
And he struggled.
Edmunds olayed in a 4-3 in buffalo, but not Tampa 2
Thry olayed attack man and he flew all over the field.
Eagles played a wide 9 scheme that edwards was in.
Poles signed good guys just to play in an out dated terrible scheme.
You need all pro dl in tampa 2 in 2024
The McCaskey's aren't going anywhere, but to the bank...coaching and drafting is the key to future success...
4 yards of offense in the first half is despicable.
The entire Bears front office has the same personality
Just promote Ian Cunningham. The fact is he saved us from an unnecessary trade for Rome bc he knew we would get him at our pick.
Silvy should be the GM. He seems to have all the right answers.
I die inside when I hear anyone other than players talk about how good they've practiced. I don't want to hear that when you get effed in the A on game day.
I don't know how an organization can be this dysfunctional? Cripes...
Running out of people to fire into the sun 😂😂😂
This was an A+ segment. Great discussion
No!
Disagree!!!
Da Bears need to move on from ESPN Chicago as radio partners, which I'm 💯 sure they're going to.
The beginning of the end for dying radio
Facts!!!!
These guys are becoming caricatures of 90 and 00s radio buffoons.
I've lost all respect for this station and their content this last year.
🤔 🤔 🤔 There are some underlying tones of ....... filtering through.
Time for change.
We got cursed when The original inheritor of our team died and the one dude George Halas didn’t want to be the head of it had no choice but to be.
Pay Belicheck what he wants, let him bring in a GM of his choice, and any coaches he wants for his staff. Tell him them to build the next dynasty. Done.
I mean where’s the lie?! Are we supposed to sit here for Pace 2.0?
what multiple 1st rounders did poles sign again? i forget, did poles make 1 of the best trades in history and were still getting quality players from that 1 decision i forgot
@@mobobrien4934the bigger picture is concerning. Maybe not pace but Angelo 2.0 fs (flashes of good fortune) missing out on Jalen Carter bc of “character issues” and keeping Pringle on your squad after an arrest are things that make me side eye bro.
@@isthatyoujaunwayne4183 I understand but if Darnell wright was a show stopper, you wouldn't be on poles as about getting wright over Carter. And he's been pretty good. Last 2 games hasn't given up a pressure. I think he gave up 1 vs Vikings. So 3 games gave up 1 pressure?. He's not Larry borum man he's good. Problem with lineman is if it's a silent day, it's not a glaring issue so we don't really see it, but if he's Shelton getting blown out the water or Braxton (who's solid at times and then not so much) getting beat around the edge or bull rushed we see it as a problem. Braxton has been pretty good and wright has been really good. I think Chris Morgan getting run game coordinator fucked up the line, now he's focusing on extra shit, just like flus, and Thomas Brown. Give someone more on their plate and what looked good before now looks like shit.
This team got smoked by a bunch of 3rd stringers. Poles mis evaluated Mooney, James Daniel’s , let him walk. He over values his own players and doesn’t appreciate the players that were already given to him.
is that why he sign jaylon johnson? mooney was a dark horse, not used right by the o coordinator and made mooney look bad but also really bad seperation by him last year to be fair
I know a million other people have said it but it starts at the top with ownership. We have a mom and Pop operation competing with some of the most ruthless, successful and more importantly cash liquid businessmen on earth. It’s no surprise we’re uncompetitive.
A 2024 study by Steven Patton ranked Ryan Poles second in net value gained through trades since 2020, highlighting his effective trade strategies. In terms of hits, misses, and busts he's about league average. THE GRASS IS NOT ALWAYS GREENER, people. You can't just fire your way to success. Firing is not a strategy. Half the GMs in the NFL are worse at their job than Poles. Not saying he can't be criticized. I think he brings in way too many beta type dudes, for example. 2025 is the year he solidifies his identity. I try to keep in mind he's a 1st time GM and is taking his lumps as a young newbie.
Bears have 16 winning seasons in my lifetime. I'm 42.
If true, could this be the worst possible destination for Caleb? If he somehow manages to succeed over the next four years, I wouldn’t blame him for walking away. It’s got to be in the DNA of this franchise. I promised myself I’d quit the Bears if that happens and start rooting for a CFL team. This is just insane.
This franchise is more concerned about the new stadium than winning. They make their profit off of losing. No change in sight.
POLES: We are taking the NORTH CELLAR and never ever giving it back!!!
BEARS FANS: PFFFTTT HAHAHAHA!! 😅😅😅 so true Poles so true.😅😅😅😅
What do you want him to do? Once he decided to stick with Flus, as GM, the die was cast. A GM has very little control of the team during the season. So the only thing he can do is provide canned answers until the off-season.
Firing the OC and HC/DC is going to strain resources and tank the season.
Long story short. That loss in Washington broke this team. Players have checked out already
What a silly argument, there's no way he's going to do an interview and say that the team is lost or unfocused. THAT would destroy his credibility with them. Behind closed doors is where he'd be honest about what he's seeing. C'mon guys
I know it was said years ago on a competing station, but nobody sells losing quite like the Chicago Bears
Everyone forgot how bad this team was before he took over. everyone stop the B. S. Support Poles & chill. Just fix the O-line
lol
It's gotten worse since he was hired...
It’s still bad. He should not have built the team from the outside in. Passed up on CJ Stroud and Jayden Daniels etc. he’s trash
Hes had 3yrs to fix the oline
2023 draft had 10 starting centers. Passed each time
2024 had a few centers more guards available.
Drafting wright was okay at the time but he has not shown any signs in 2yrs of being elite.
Braxton jones has peaked
Tevin cant stay healthy
Davis quit basically andthe people they drafted, traded for, signed
1. Are bad
2. Cant stay healthy
3. Dont fix anything
He drafted a fuckin punter in rd 4 over needing OL n DE help
Again.
If Poles goes the whole team goes.! NO FING WAY GUYS!!! We gotta ride this out with Caleb. If it fails then reset
I mean Caleb isn the problem not sure why u brought him up
DJ Moore: dropped a ball that hit him in the chest. Cole Kmet: dropped a ball that hit him in the chest. Keenan Allen: dropped a ball that hit him in the chest. Maybe if you attach their game check to the football, they’ll stop dropping dimes. 🐻 ⬇️
Theres a commentator who said "The Bears need to find a new coach cause Eberflus will have destroyed 2 really good QB's in Fields and Williams".
Um I'm glad Eberflus was fired and deserved to be. BUT Caleb "Sure fire #1 pick" Williams is starting to look like a bust!
Let the excuses begin!
Is it true that the McCaskey's hired Matt Eberflus as the Bear's head coach before they hire Poles and Warren?
Yes
Warren wasnt hired until last year in june
The bears hired bill polian for colts n chiefs gm
And a DEI personnel lady to find a gm n hc.
Polian wanted them to hire morroco brown and matt eberflus.
The dei lady wanted ryan poles.
So they split the difference
As poles n Eberflus both had trace Armstrong as an agent.
They let poles opt to interview others and he settled on eberflus based off their recommendation.
He did have a phone call with kubiak. Quinn had already backed out.
@@jaemillz7145DEI are not an issue in this case. Poles and Warren are good hires and definitely qualifiedfor the jobs they are in. I think it is tough for a GM to try an manage a head coach that has a relationship with the team owner. The head coach can go over the GM's and team presidents head. The most important thing for Poles to do is hire a head coach that has the toughness of a Hank Stram and Iron Mike Ditka. The Bears are in a tough division and need a head coach that is tougher than the division. The Bears need a hard azz no nonsense guy. Is that guy Belichick, Marcus Freeman, Ben Johnson, Vrabel, Dan Lanning, Prime Time Sanders, Flores? The interview process is going to have to be thorough. The Bears need an azz hole for a head coach.
@@jaemillz7145dude shit up about dei. Leave your awful politics out of this ffs
Why not change the GM and hire Louis Riddick as the next GM? If they want make him the assistant GM until the position opens up, which is sooner than later.
But now the QB wasn’t drafted by the new GM and Coach so Williams is F*cked. I have had a second home in Wisconsin since 1989 and I’m so stupid I’m still a Bears Fan. I give up.
you keep poles till year 3 of caleb. that’s what a normal team would do. if the qb is good then keep the gm around to build around him. that’s logical.
@@shake6321 Nope...."He Gone"....as the Hawk would say.
@@HRGreenShark that would be yet another very stupid decisions. that means the next GM would just use Caleb and all the players poles signed as an excuse for losing. you be forced to give the next GM 2 years of Caleb and then 2 years of the QB he drafts, which mean potentially 4 more years of losing before you fire that GM.
You dont get anything by firing poles. also, its obvious that he's brought a ton of talent into the org. anyways. i've almost come to the conclusion that the Bears will do the WRONG thing cuz they really are one of the dumbest organizations in sport.
Drafting Caleb is a fireable offense unless he allows the coach to start Bagent if he’s the better option.
Poles stuck by Flus when we all saw he was a bad coach last year, he discarded Justin Fields because he wasn’t “his guy”, drafted Caleb (who I do think is better and the right decision) but arrogantly assumed he would just step in as a rookie and save the team. Didn’t build either line, has a Ryan Bates infatuation and somehow interviewed and hired Shane Waldron.
If not for the horrible owner at the Panthers this wouldn’t even be a discussion he’s bad… cut bait and marry the GM and HC
Playing SF right after an unprecedented coaching change was actually a perfect situation to expose this management. If they'd played a creampuff, loser team and won, there would be great false hopes in the new install. Poles would feel vindicated and fans would be gaslit into wicked expectations of better days ahead. But, luckily, they played a very well-run 49ers team, with some issues, but built on a great foundation. The Bears were humiliated in front of the world. The Bears were exposed as complete failures, desperately seeking relevance with last-ditch efforts. They showed the world their organization is built upon sand, slippery, viscous DEI sand. It's all collapsing upon itself because there's no competent foundation. Poles is an amateur. The president is clueless about football. The owners inherited their fortune and don't even know how to make money themselves or compete. The coaching staff is whipped butter, appearing more than it is. The players see the incompetence and they've lost confidence or desire. The franchise QB is learning the curse of his new team. There's nothing to build upon in the entire outfit. It's a pile of old spaghetti without sauce, drying up in a cold pot. This is beyond embarrassing. I don't know how the McCaskeys stay hidden or silent. Don't they care at all? Does anyone have passion in that storied franchise? Won't anyone have the guts to admit failure and put their reputation on the line and apologize to fans? This ownership is gutless. They are beyond losers. They are cowardly mediocrities. Anyone with self-respect and integrity would face the music, admit their horrendous failure and vow to never let this happen again. But the McCaskeys are GUTLESS, INCOMPETENT COWARDS!!!
We despise you!
I will never give this team a cent until the McCaskeys get the F out of the business, forever.
F the Chicago Bears.
L-O-S-E-R-S
Y’all act like he didn’t sign Montez Sweat, Deandre Swift, Keenan Allen, drafted Tyriq Stevenson, Rome Odunze. And wanted to fire Flus. Name ONE Bears GM that comes close! The issue was coaching plain and simple.
That is NOT a good list. Sweat has been AWFUL this year, Keenan cost a 4th rounder, Swift is an overpaid scatback, Stevenson is an immature PUNK. I like Odunze but a LT would have been a better idea.
@@GrayCrosby Honestly Swift looks like he could excel running in Shanahan's offense in SF. He can make that cut and GO. In Chicago he doesn't have much of a chance. He's not a banger.
Results are the only measure. Poles must go.
Poles talking to the media is a front, GET OVER IT. I wouldn't fire this guy, he is signing the right guys and making good decisions for the teams future. I think it is foolish to fire a GM for how he is responding to the media.
What I want to know is what assurances does the McCaskey family have that they are ok with the Estate/Inheritance tax that will be applied to their clan once Virginia passes? Otherwise, sell the team, keep all of the proceeds, and bring a winning culture back to Chicago.
You guys are out of your effing minds!! This sounds just like the firing of Lovie Smith! You guys know the only common denominator, but you focus on the guy that finally brought us a quarterback!!! I HATE CHICAGO MEDIA
All y’all are dumb
Do you not realise it takes more than 2 and half seasons to completely rebuild a team?
My god
Poles is doing an excellent job
Takes 3/4 seasons to build a new team
Trust the process
Poles has helped the Steelers more than the Bears.
Poles has a perfect opportunity to get Harbaugh but here we are.
Doesn't matter who the GM is as long as the McCaskeys own the Bears.
I expect this silliness from some fans, but I expect much more from these guys. When a team sucks, you fire whoever you can fire and hope for the best. When the real problem is the owner, you go through this silly circle jerk firing cycle every few years. Obviously nothing will ever get better doing that, you want a fix, you need to know/admit the real problem. The Bears can be a great team again when the McCaskey's take the 6 billion and go away. Waddle knows that but can not/will not say it.
Lmaooo weren’t yall saying Poles had to draft a new QB so his job is safe for next few years but now yall want him fired 😭😭😭 Bears fans im telling ya
156 sacks given up in three years, and the season is not over yet. Need to draft mean OLinemen.
I'm with letting him go, first words out his mouth was we're gonna build through the trenches and never give the north back, 3 yrs in you've really done nothing to help the trenches and missed on alot of players....
Man, for the most part, I was a Poles advocate. But the garbage this year and his insistence that Flus and his mousse was the guy may bury him. I think you have to extend him (not advisable), or launch him. You can’t hire a coach and give him a 5 year deal while the GM has 2 years left. Will just create more disillusionment with prospective candidates. They need a kick ass guy with experience who will hold these guys accountable. Vrabel comes to mind, maybe Flores. But Flores would have to answer what he’s learned from the Tua debacle? Is he going to continually yank Caleb if he struggling and put in the backup at other random times?
Ryan Paul's drafts not to lose.He does not draft to win And it is a difference in drafting not to lose in drafting to win. When you draft, not to lose absolutely, you pick mediocre serviceable players. When you draft to win, you go out and get the dogs you need. He does not draft alpha's.I don't know why.
Draft 2 draft to win not to play
Now you want to fire Poles....Silvy...clowning as usual....geez
Poles got lucky with the Panthers trade and I give him credit for Caleb but what else has he done? His first picks in the draft after stressing building through the trenches….secondary with both 2nds including the pick for Mack. Still rather have Mack than Brisker.
@@milehighboost5521how u say he got lucky with the panthers trade then give him credit for caleb that literally makes no sense
@@TyrellBlavk lucky they gave him so much and ended up with the #1 pick. Couldn’t have predicted that so that’s how it’s lucky. He wasn’t dumb enough to trade the pick away or draft Jayden so he gets a little credit.
@milehighboost5521 poles had the balls to trade the pick and pass Bryce young who everyone was saying was a top qb
Waddle's been trying to get Poles out all year. He's never this opinionated.. interesting.
Leave it to Bears fans/media to want to fire the GM 3 years in after completely tearing down the roster in year 1. So we’re giving him 2 years? Look at the talent on the roster pre-teardown and 2 years into the rebuild. Poles said when he was hired “we are building through the draft”. Everyone cheered this statement then saying “you dont win by winning free agency”. Now everyone is flip flopping and demanding we spend in free agency and win now.
Stop it, you all sound like clowns.
Guys this is the same shit that has happened for years. Remember Nagy always saying we had a great week at practice
Poles sounds like a man who is trying to save his job. He sounds like George McCaskey.
When you draft the worst QB coming out of the draft at number 1, you risk losing your job. No surprise there.
You guys blaming poles are clowns...poles is the best gm the bears have ever had - by a landslide...decades of inept Gm's hasnt taught you fools a thing, bad trades, bad draft picks, bad coaching hires. Now we have a young ascending team on team friendly contracts. GM's cant play or coach, they can only stack the roster and hope the coaches and players make it happen.
This offseason was a disaster for the Bears.
I was really a poles believer but take away the Caleb Williams trade and he has got no top players in draft. Dj and sweat were FA acquisitions and they are our best players.
Lmfao at you guys wanting him to tell the truth about the team. If he did that you would blast him for throwing the team under the bus.
Stop being dumb, sports media.