That kid is mature for his age with a good head on his shoulders. Props to him I hope he goes places. He's clearly more responsible then most adults on platforms these days 😂
Right, he handled it pretty well and made sure to continously mention his age to make sure there is no mistaking this situation. I feel horrible for him, no kid should have those things said to him, but he did handle it well.
@@localfungi9462 A lot of teens are smart like him, but most weirdos seek out the dumb ones because of this very thing, so you tend to not hear about the smart ones as much.
21:30 growing up in the hood, ive never had anyone ask me specific stuff like that. It was usually just the old heads asking if I had any girls, but not what i was doing with them that shit is weird
This. Right here. Unc may ask if you got a girl, and if you're getting lucky, but he ain't getting weird about it. He damned sure ain't asking if you'd do his homie. Ak is weird af for this.
Yeah I do think there is a problem of people wanting boys to get with girls young be praising them a lot for having game at like 12. However asking if the kid would drinka mans cum, or have sex as a girl with a specific guy is not common, or normal.
@@SkunkApe407Tell me you've never actually been around "Da Hood"...it's insanely common there. 15 year olds pregnant constantly. Girls getting sexed in for Gangs. You think they are recruiting 18 years old only? Seriously?
I don't think Akademiks is actually a nonce but it is important for people to know that what he was doing is exactly what grooming young boys looks like. That is why letting this type of behavior slide is never ok. Normalizing it just puts more young men in danger.
I mean....remember how close he was with Tekashi Rat 9? Remember how Tekashi was on camera doing stuff with a 13 year old when he was like 19? Remember how Akademics still associated with him after? That's weirdo stuff. You gotta instant cut ties or you are cool with that type of thing. If you are cool with that, you are likely into it yourself.
So bizarre how many people have an all or nothing mindset. How hard is it for people to understand that something can be bad without it being the most vile thing ever?
Nah these dudes legit flat out was talking about having sex with the kid. I'm not taking that as a joke nor should anyone. "Let me fuck you or I'm cutting you off" "I'm going to send strippers to your house" if I say I'm going to shoot someone it is taken literally. There's no reason this shouldn't be the same way. Even implying that you're going to is fucking vile
I was getting forced to watch two girls one cup in fifth grade lmao, its not just adults its also other kids that have terrible parents. Kids were literally moaning in class and playing inappropriate noises out loud starting in 6th grade. I did not need to hear that stuff at age 9.
Isn’t this what Diddy did to Justin Bieber? It’s good people are pointing this out before he literally hires a sex worker for this kid… because this adult thinks he’s doing the kid a favor…
I really dont think the vast majority of people say "you're 35 you shouldn't talk to kids at all" they say "you're 35 years old you shouldn't be talking to kids Like That at all" I get we dont necessarily need to call him a predator but that was predatory behavior even if it was all just jokes.
Right? There's appropriate interactions adults can have with kids. I meet a lot of cool minors playing video games. Only difference is our conversations are related to the game, not...yeah
@@josephvalencia1429Exactly! I play online games all the time if I hear a kid I keep it pg13, I'm not talking about sex or constantly swearing cuz kids shouldn't be around that. If you're doing that sorta thing around kids I don't want to be around you.
@josephvalencia1429 I mean, you can banter and give a kid shit, too, but that's on a different level than this. I agree with OP that this doesn't mean he's attracted to kids or anything, but when you banter with a kid on a video game, you gotta do it in a less adult manner.
It's becoming a common trend among people who can't think past themselves, to think that when you turn 18, that bans you from talking to anyone 17 and under ever again, in any way. It feels like someone who knows they'd slip up, projecting, tbh.
Even if you're not actively trying to groom someone, acts like this still groom minors because it can make them more susceptible to grooming in the future because they start to think an adult having these types of conversations with them is normal.
I agree that this is pretty standard in old black culture but that doesn't mean their cultural standards are safe for children or that they don't need to be upgraded for modern life.
Idk that asking if a kid would drink a guy's cum is pretty standard. Or asking the kid if they would have sex with nguy if they had a sex change, that sounds like a very modern question.
There's a lot of Noncery in Black and Hispanic culture. White people get caught more for it because it's usually crazier when they do it but Black and Hispanic Cultures have real weird opinions about Girls being "Adults" at 15. They aren't the only ones, it happens in different ways with different third world cultures. Go to any Continent and you'll find Noncery, it just takes place in different ways. White People have child beauty pageants. Mexicans have "quincinereas" celebrating a girl being a Woman at 15. Middle Easterners have the "it isn't gay if they aren't old enough to grow a beard". Japan used to have "modeling agencies" taking pictures of young girls in lingerie (illegal now) and the School Girl Thing. Ukraine still does the teen modeling agencies thing and is the capital of the world for le cheese pizza. Noncery is EVERYWHERE. it's insane how widespread it is.
It would be weird even ebtween close friends, but close friends say weird shit all the time, the internet made people comfortable talking random, weird and borderline criminal shit to randoms. Its like mfs never went otuside a single day in their life, i wont talk about niche things with a random guy at my boxing gym, or say the dumb things i say to my friends to that same guy, and its even worse when AK is GROWN ASS MAN and acts like a 15 yo that doesnt know how to read the room
As a 15 yr old the things that got said to him were extremely weird, i have multiple adult friends and we wouldnt even come close to any of these topics in our convos, personally i think this is more than just "fucking around".
That kid is mature and handling this way better than most kids would be able to do. Stating repeatedly things arent appropriate, and he is uncomfortable. It is uncomfortable to know even when the kid has the ability to navigate this conversation it continues.
The people saying "oh this is normal in the hood" and leaving it at that are either intentionally or unintentionally downplaying it. Those types of convos are normal. Usually some unc tryna relive their youth vicariously. But ... NEVER ... Is it ever as explicit and graphic as these ak comments. Usually it's just teasing about getting girls or the oldheads bragging about how they used to get girls. This shit is crazy.
It reminds me of how when black people say that abusing your children is just a part of how you should parent and how it keeps getting perpetuated through the generations
I would call this sexual harrassment not grooming. I agree, it's annoying when people don't use terms correctly. Ive seen people say they were SA's because a guy put their hand on their shoulder or arm. That is really offensive to people who have actually been assaulted.
15:00 it's so true that you can have relationships/friendships with adults as a minor, a lot of friends i have are friends of my dad's or mum's and i value them greatly, and not ONCE have they been inappopriate towards me (17yr girl). it's all about the quality of people you surround yourself with, not the age
Grooming doesn’t mean only PDF activity Tom. Grooming could mean convincing them to do work for you, take your side on issues, or influencing them to do things they shouldn’t through your ability as an adult. I agree calling this grooming might be a little much, but it’s more complicated than the literal worst thing every time.
Missed a bit on this one Tom. In the US "lascivious conduct with a minor" is on the books, at least in many states. This crime including words as well as actions. ie, talking innapropriately with a minor can be a crime in itself
If we are trying to spread the narrative that adults should be forbidden from speaking to children in general, that is a condemnation of adults' capability to be responsible, mature citizens. It's just not a good sign. Kids NEED to be able to associate with and learn from adults; if we teach children to be scared of everybody outside the core family unit, then we are nurturing a future where people won't even trust their neighbours not to rob them blind. That kind of socially insular society is where opportunistic predatory people thrive.
Exactly, well said. Making kids so isolated and overly controlled also makes them at a higher risk for falling for a predators grooming, and being too scared to tell their strict parents. Adults help a child's development and relying solely on close family is not enough, or best for the child cognitively or emotionally. Often the most vulnerable children, those with bad homes lives, neglect, poverty, poor self esteem, disabilities, no direction etc have been helped the most when an adult took an interest in helping mentor them. My friend at school was badly dyslexic, she got bad grades and thought she wouldn't be able to go to college, however she was great at sports. Our physical education teacher took her under his wing and let her know how talented she was and encouraged her to try out for the county teams, which she got accepted on. The teacher also let her know about sports colleges and how she could get a scholarship, which she did. She was told she would have to work in MC Donalds and had low self-esteem but that teacher gave her soich confidence, hope, and plan for her future. I was just listening to a talk by an autistic women Temple Grandin who has had a very successful career in physics and she says her school science teacher was the main reason she became enthusiastic about science and that without him she would not be a successful, fulfilled mens happy as she is. I feel like a lot of people are not weighing these proven positives against the possible negative of the adult being a pedo.
@@NotAnotherKuromi "I feel like a lot of people are not weighing these proven positives against the possible negative of the adult being a pedo." for every one story like your friend there's 5 girls that get abused and end up dead or worse. those possible negatives outweighs any positive that could could come, no one is saying to isolate their kids that is a strawman, people are saying we need to teach kids whats apparate conversation and are you really saying that a kid should be able to be alone in a discord with a bunch of adults?. your kind of thibnking also allows predators to sit in plain view. im sure if a different student were to come out and say that teacher abused them you would think they are lying because "he was nice to my friend" thats the same kind of mentality that allows family members to abuse their kids "its my brother he would never" you guys clearly have never delt with these kinds of people, 99% of the time you cant tell till its too late.
@@roberkraft1982this a bit of an emotional overeaction, really for every 1 kid who got mentored by a teacher 5 have gotten abused or killed? If these statistics are real (which i doubt) then we should not keep teachers around. Also you just asume way too much about this other guy for no reason. If something happened to you im sorry but that would be no reason to assume and attack this guy like that
It's not hyperbole, excepting for death because child predators with access have multiple victims, over a lifetime so yes the kind teacher who didn't abuse 'this girl' often, abused 3-6 others@@herdoman5169
With the point of "there are legitimate reasons to interact with minors, not every interaction with a minor is automatically bad", I think a perfect example of this is videogamedunkey's Roblox videos. He's playing Roblox and interacting on voice chat with the kids who are playing. You can definitely tell they are kids by their voices; some of them even say their ages, and they're 8, 9, 10, etc. But if you watch those videos, I don't think you could say there's anything wrong with them. Dunkey is interacting with the kids in a perfectly appropriate way, he's giving them a bit of gentle teasing/trolling, but he's also entertaining them and having fun with them. There's nothing weird or sexual about it. So it's perfectly possible to have normal, positive, wholesome interactions with minors.
The one positive is that Nour's viewership is likely gonna blow-up and it's gonna be mostly people there watching to make sure this doesn't happen again lol Also grooming is not intent, this is 100% grooming whether he meant it or not
The fact that this little kid if calling out adults if insane. I do see why people say this is grooming though bc they are heavily trying to influence him into sexual situations which is at the very least suspicious and wrong. They just don’t care that they’re talking to a little kid. Very very wrong and suspicious af. Idk the drake glazing makes sense that’s all I’m saying 🙌🏼
Even if he didn't mean something creepy towards the kid and he just took it too far the fact that he was trolling a 15 year old orphan refugee it's still pretty disgusting
To be completely fair if this happened to a 15 year old girl, there would be much more of an outcry. Any child should never be put into a situation like this.
Not defending but this is annoyingly weirdly common. I know myself I've had weird older dudes speak to me about very adult stuff when i was a child. I don't think they're groomers but it's an old thing i hope dies because it's somewhat encourages early exposure to adult content which isn't good for any kid.
I hate to be that person but when kris tyson did this exact same thing there was no question that it was weird but when DJAK does it its "normal" "nothing burger" i dont get it yall, keep the consistency
no one is saying its a nothing burger tho, its creepy but it doesnt mean hes a predator, also kris tyson has a lot more incriminating evidence and a ton more weird comments than this situation
Akademiks defended Lil Boom despite video evidence and he was even convicted of SA an 8 years old in public. Also his discord is 80% pdfs and s offenders. He is 100% a pdf just like Flakko id who also has a case.
First up, I don’t think you were trying to justify him at all, but I did want to make one point that came up while watching. Thankfully from the outside Nour seems ok, but I think those of us who have had adults say weird stuff to us when young, know what I mean when I say words can harm and stick around with you quite a lot in life. I agree these guys may not have had serious intentions, but if they’re not having those intentions, then why even ask those questions in the first place? I mean, it’s literally in your title so you do get it. There are sadly adults in this world who may never ever touch a child, but who definitely “get off” in some weird way on making them uncomfortable. If pedophilia isn’t the right term for that, we need to invent some new words…
I’m ngl this just reminds me of Xbox parties back in the day or my weird Skype group friends they’d say crazy stuff lol and it was people 12-30 something in there. It was crazy
It's crazy when something like this happens and people come out the woodwork saying it's normal because it happened to them. it's like, yeah, that's kinda what happens. You get violated by adults as a kid, then you grow up and do that same thing...
The hormones hit some kids late, a guy in school was like 5ft and scrawny when he was 16, then I saw him after college and he was massive and tall, like 3 times the size he was.
I’m 22, and I still talk and hangout with my brother and his friends. They’re 4 years younger than me. I see them as other brothers, so I don’t think it’s wrong to have those relationships. But, when it comes to teenagers buddying up with complete strangers there should be caution.
@nickl6373 yeah it was kinda interesting to hear him kinda handle the situation with alot of nuance when AK has been very weird with minors before. Idk if that'll change Tom's opinion but this shit is a pattern with AK. NOT the first time he's been weird with minors. This might be his 3rd + incident.
15:18 no one thinks that adults should never ever talk to kids thats regarded Tom. If a youth sports coach was found to be in private calls after school with kids he coaches, it would be weird even without knowing the content of the call. Its circumstantial. But theres a lot more kiddy-diddlers than there are good reasons to be personal friends with children.
Nah people do say that. You yourself stung by private call is inherently weird in itself suggests you don't think adults should be talking to kids at all. A lot of people are so concerned with avoiding pedos that they want kids to be isolated from any friendly relationships with adults,which ironically actually makes them more at risk of being targeted and succumbing to the groomers attention. Plenty of kids have benefitted from mentor type relationships with teachers, coaches, older family friends etc, some wouldn't have the job or positive outlook they do tidy without the positive influence of other adults. It especially benefits kids who are struggling, who are neglected at home, who struggle with focus or self esteem, who have disabilities etc. It is not just a net positive to discourage any child and adult relationships.
@ Mentor is generally a different role to personal friend. Of course children need to feel listened to and cared for, but for 99%+ of cases that looks like friends or family or an authority figure at school (in school grounds).
We're usually on the same page, Tom. But bro, you totally missed on this one. Unwanted sexual comments is sexual harassment, which is in fact a crime. Maybe you been upper decking too many 9 mg zyns
22:20 this is 100% true and it is a bad place to be. Other things that are completely normalized within those “communities” but never spoken of critically are a variety of other more serious matters that are related to this subject. Adult men going after minors is 110% a normalized thing in the “hood”. Pimping and trafficking of these girls is also a 110% normalized thing in these “communities”. Intrafamilial abuse and “relations” is also a 110% normalized thing in these “communities”. This is an open secret within these communities that is rarely addressed outside of them, but seriously needs to be. It’s why I always laugh when you hear someone of the same flock as akademiks making joke about White folks being sister-cousins or predators as if these “communities” aren’t literally plagued by that type of garbage throughout the entire country.
The part that upsets me most is that kid SOUNDS like a kid. Theres no mistaking.
very obviously a child. theres no excuse fr.
Kid was very uncomfortable too and wanted them to drop it but no issjustajoke
You don't have to hear it in his voice when he's saying repeatedly that he's 15
And why is that kid streaming
@@Maximilian1990 gotta grind bro
if a kid is telling you he's 15 multiple times you're probably being f*cking weird
That kid is mature for his age with a good head on his shoulders. Props to him I hope he goes places. He's clearly more responsible then most adults on platforms these days 😂
I hope its common and we are teaching kids about these weirdos. They not like us.
Right, he handled it pretty well and made sure to continously mention his age to make sure there is no mistaking this situation. I feel horrible for him, no kid should have those things said to him, but he did handle it well.
‘That kid is mature for his age…’
Exactly what a groomer would say 😂 jk
@@localfungi9462 A lot of teens are smart like him, but most weirdos seek out the dumb ones because of this very thing, so you tend to not hear about the smart ones as much.
"mature for his age" is a phrase that is only used by pdf files
21:30 growing up in the hood, ive never had anyone ask me specific stuff like that. It was usually just the old heads asking if I had any girls, but not what i was doing with them that shit is weird
This. Right here. Unc may ask if you got a girl, and if you're getting lucky, but he ain't getting weird about it. He damned sure ain't asking if you'd do his homie. Ak is weird af for this.
Yeah I do think there is a problem of people wanting boys to get with girls young be praising them a lot for having game at like 12. However asking if the kid would drinka mans cum, or have sex as a girl with a specific guy is not common, or normal.
I mean the guys on Drakes meat, not saying only creeps are down with Drake, just that a high percentage of creeps are Drake stans @@SkunkApe407
@@SkunkApe407Tell me you've never actually been around "Da Hood"...it's insanely common there. 15 year olds pregnant constantly. Girls getting sexed in for Gangs. You think they are recruiting 18 years old only? Seriously?
Big fax my uncle never be asking me that. They always being asking bout girls I’ve been with and that’s it
I don't think Akademiks is actually a nonce but it is important for people to know that what he was doing is exactly what grooming young boys looks like. That is why letting this type of behavior slide is never ok. Normalizing it just puts more young men in danger.
He has done a lot of stuff like this. He is 100% a pdf
I mean....remember how close he was with Tekashi Rat 9? Remember how Tekashi was on camera doing stuff with a 13 year old when he was like 19? Remember how Akademics still associated with him after? That's weirdo stuff. You gotta instant cut ties or you are cool with that type of thing. If you are cool with that, you are likely into it yourself.
There is audio of AK saying he would smash a 17 year old as long as they had a fake id
So bizarre how many people have an all or nothing mindset. How hard is it for people to understand that something can be bad without it being the most vile thing ever?
No, that requires intelligence
That's why him and Drake beat of friends sike nah he just punks em
Nah these dudes legit flat out was talking about having sex with the kid. I'm not taking that as a joke nor should anyone. "Let me fuck you or I'm cutting you off" "I'm going to send strippers to your house" if I say I'm going to shoot someone it is taken literally. There's no reason this shouldn't be the same way. Even implying that you're going to is fucking vile
Crazy that we take protection of children from loser adults.?? You are the problem
@@jerzyrican8562What is blud yapping abt?
Its exposing a child to sexual content despite protest, leveraging your fame because they wanna play with you, but its absolutely borderline sex crime
Ak had a LOOONG history of doing and supporting this... He is 100% a pdf
I was getting forced to watch two girls one cup in fifth grade lmao, its not just adults its also other kids that have terrible parents. Kids were literally moaning in class and playing inappropriate noises out loud starting in 6th grade. I did not need to hear that stuff at age 9.
@@slursi2981”forced” run away yell tell a teacher bro its a video close your eyes lmaooo
@@how8679You're home schooled aren't you?
@slursi2981 kids not knowing the full scope vs a 30+ year old dude is way different
“No I wouldn’t because I’m 15, I’m not an adult”
That kid is a CHAMP 🤜
Isn’t this what Diddy did to Justin Bieber? It’s good people are pointing this out before he literally hires a sex worker for this kid… because this adult thinks he’s doing the kid a favor…
I really dont think the vast majority of people say "you're 35 you shouldn't talk to kids at all" they say "you're 35 years old you shouldn't be talking to kids Like That at all" I get we dont necessarily need to call him a predator but that was predatory behavior even if it was all just jokes.
Ak is a straight up pdf.
Right? There's appropriate interactions adults can have with kids. I meet a lot of cool minors playing video games. Only difference is our conversations are related to the game, not...yeah
@@josephvalencia1429Exactly! I play online games all the time if I hear a kid I keep it pg13, I'm not talking about sex or constantly swearing cuz kids shouldn't be around that. If you're doing that sorta thing around kids I don't want to be around you.
@josephvalencia1429 I mean, you can banter and give a kid shit, too, but that's on a different level than this. I agree with OP that this doesn't mean he's attracted to kids or anything, but when you banter with a kid on a video game, you gotta do it in a less adult manner.
It's becoming a common trend among people who can't think past themselves, to think that when you turn 18, that bans you from talking to anyone 17 and under ever again, in any way. It feels like someone who knows they'd slip up, projecting, tbh.
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How did the 15 yr old sound like the most mature one in the call
Kendrick was right, them predators move in flocks.
Aw damn someone in the vid already said this
@@cartoonz4665 hey no harm in knowing it lol
Even if you're not actively trying to groom someone, acts like this still groom minors because it can make them more susceptible to grooming in the future because they start to think an adult having these types of conversations with them is normal.
This 💯
And the hood is known for being a safe and nurturing place for teenage boys.
Nothing wrong with joking around with your friends, but to say that shit to a kid is just weird as fuck
There is a big difference between asking your little cousin if they have a girlfriend/like girls and…. Whatever DJ ick is doing here.
Getting your morals questioned by a 15 year old is another level of wild
And the have the 15 year old be RIGHT to do it is fucking weird
If Tom knew Academics past he may feel a little stronger about the predator allegation. A predator doesn’t just refer to kids.
It's sad, but so many grown men genuinely think it's fine and expected for teen boys to get statutoried by grown ass women.
'Wamen can do no wrong, plus male so they probably enjoyed it, reduce the sentence!' -Society
Unfortunately its fairly normalized when not around functioning adults
take that downvote buddy
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Tom is my boyfriend sorry, leave
Tom had his hair groomed by an evil barber, he has my thoughts and prayers
I agree that this is pretty standard in old black culture but that doesn't mean their cultural standards are safe for children or that they don't need to be upgraded for modern life.
Idk that asking if a kid would drink a guy's cum is pretty standard. Or asking the kid if they would have sex with nguy if they had a sex change, that sounds like a very modern question.
There's a lot of Noncery in Black and Hispanic culture. White people get caught more for it because it's usually crazier when they do it but Black and Hispanic Cultures have real weird opinions about Girls being "Adults" at 15. They aren't the only ones, it happens in different ways with different third world cultures. Go to any Continent and you'll find Noncery, it just takes place in different ways. White People have child beauty pageants. Mexicans have "quincinereas" celebrating a girl being a Woman at 15. Middle Easterners have the "it isn't gay if they aren't old enough to grow a beard". Japan used to have "modeling agencies" taking pictures of young girls in lingerie (illegal now) and the School Girl Thing. Ukraine still does the teen modeling agencies thing and is the capital of the world for le cheese pizza. Noncery is EVERYWHERE. it's insane how widespread it is.
Drakes strongest stan getting caught in 4k. Not beating the F.A.N accusations
“Them predators move in flocks”
The hood standards gotta be higher 😭😭
I feel like that conversation was weird for any age lol
I don't talk like that with my best friends let alone some kid I don't know
It would be weird even ebtween close friends, but close friends say weird shit all the time, the internet made people comfortable talking random, weird and borderline criminal shit to randoms.
Its like mfs never went otuside a single day in their life, i wont talk about niche things with a random guy at my boxing gym, or say the dumb things i say to my friends to that same guy, and its even worse when AK is GROWN ASS MAN and acts like a 15 yo that doesnt know how to read the room
As a 15 yr old the things that got said to him were extremely weird, i have multiple adult friends and we wouldnt even come close to any of these topics in our convos, personally i think this is more than just "fucking around".
That kid is mature and handling this way better than most kids would be able to do. Stating repeatedly things arent appropriate, and he is uncomfortable. It is uncomfortable to know even when the kid has the ability to navigate this conversation it continues.
as a uncle, no
The people saying "oh this is normal in the hood" and leaving it at that are either intentionally or unintentionally downplaying it.
Those types of convos are normal. Usually some unc tryna relive their youth vicariously. But ... NEVER ... Is it ever as explicit and graphic as these ak comments.
Usually it's just teasing about getting girls or the oldheads bragging about how they used to get girls.
This shit is crazy.
It reminds me of how when black people say that abusing your children is just a part of how you should parent and how it keeps getting perpetuated through the generations
@@mikuenjoyerXD it's "da cultcha" as AK says.
"This is normal in the hood" yeah because the hood is notorious for being an amazing place 😂
I would call this sexual harrassment not grooming.
I agree, it's annoying when people don't use terms correctly. Ive seen people say they were SA's because a guy put their hand on their shoulder or arm. That is really offensive to people who have actually been assaulted.
Maybe the old heads in the hood r weird 💀💀💀
Can confirm they are weird as fuck
I've heard people say that he squeezes his webcam like that to look "thinner", which sounds unbelievable, but so does most of the stuff he's said.
15:00 it's so true that you can have relationships/friendships with adults as a minor, a lot of friends i have are friends of my dad's or mum's and i value them greatly, and not ONCE have they been inappopriate towards me (17yr girl). it's all about the quality of people you surround yourself with, not the age
Innocence is something beautiful you should not try to rip away but protect.
Firing squad, next drama.
My son is 13 if someone talked to my son like that I would freak out!!
Grooming doesn’t mean only PDF activity Tom. Grooming could mean convincing them to do work for you, take your side on issues, or influencing them to do things they shouldn’t through your ability as an adult.
I agree calling this grooming might be a little much, but it’s more complicated than the literal worst thing every time.
Grooming isn't the worst thing tho... The literal worst things Do happen, to children
Pretty sure the kid is a refugee living in maylasia because of war, and either his mom died or both parents died.
I know Brandon buckingham is gonna have a field day w this 😂😂
Missed a bit on this one Tom. In the US "lascivious conduct with a minor" is on the books, at least in many states. This crime including words as well as actions. ie, talking innapropriately with a minor can be a crime in itself
How tf does a 15 year old discord mod talk and act with more maturity than a grown ass 30 something year old?
DJ Akademics is who made The Rainbow Rat Rapper famous...why is anyone surprised? Rainbow Rat also was into doing things with Kids on Camera.
If we are trying to spread the narrative that adults should be forbidden from speaking to children in general, that is a condemnation of adults' capability
to be responsible, mature citizens. It's just not a good sign. Kids NEED to be able to associate with and learn from adults; if we teach children to be
scared of everybody outside the core family unit, then we are nurturing a future where people won't even trust their neighbours not to rob them blind.
That kind of socially insular society is where opportunistic predatory people thrive.
Exactly, well said. Making kids so isolated and overly controlled also makes them at a higher risk for falling for a predators grooming, and being too scared to tell their strict parents.
Adults help a child's development and relying solely on close family is not enough, or best for the child cognitively or emotionally. Often the most vulnerable children, those with bad homes lives, neglect, poverty, poor self esteem, disabilities, no direction etc have been helped the most when an adult took an interest in helping mentor them.
My friend at school was badly dyslexic, she got bad grades and thought she wouldn't be able to go to college, however she was great at sports. Our physical education teacher took her under his wing and let her know how talented she was and encouraged her to try out for the county teams, which she got accepted on. The teacher also let her know about sports colleges and how she could get a scholarship, which she did. She was told she would have to work in MC Donalds and had low self-esteem but that teacher gave her soich confidence, hope, and plan for her future.
I was just listening to a talk by an autistic women Temple Grandin who has had a very successful career in physics and she says her school science teacher was the main reason she became enthusiastic about science and that without him she would not be a successful, fulfilled mens happy as she is.
I feel like a lot of people are not weighing these proven positives against the possible negative of the adult being a pedo.
@@NotAnotherKuromi "I feel like a lot of people are not weighing these proven positives against the possible negative of the adult being a pedo." for every one story like your friend there's 5 girls that get abused and end up dead or worse. those possible negatives outweighs any positive that could could come, no one is saying to isolate their kids that is a strawman, people are saying we need to teach kids whats apparate conversation and are you really saying that a kid should be able to be alone in a discord with a bunch of adults?. your kind of thibnking also allows predators to sit in plain view. im sure if a different student were to come out and say that teacher abused them you would think they are lying because "he was nice to my friend" thats the same kind of mentality that allows family members to abuse their kids "its my brother he would never" you guys clearly have never delt with these kinds of people, 99% of the time you cant tell till its too late.
@@roberkraft1982this a bit of an emotional overeaction, really for every 1 kid who got mentored by a teacher 5 have gotten abused or killed? If these statistics are real (which i doubt) then we should not keep teachers around. Also you just asume way too much about this other guy for no reason. If something happened to you im sorry but that would be no reason to assume and attack this guy like that
It's not hyperbole, excepting for death because child predators with access have multiple victims, over a lifetime so yes the kind teacher who didn't abuse 'this girl' often, abused 3-6 others@@herdoman5169
With the point of "there are legitimate reasons to interact with minors, not every interaction with a minor is automatically bad", I think a perfect example of this is videogamedunkey's Roblox videos. He's playing Roblox and interacting on voice chat with the kids who are playing. You can definitely tell they are kids by their voices; some of them even say their ages, and they're 8, 9, 10, etc. But if you watch those videos, I don't think you could say there's anything wrong with them. Dunkey is interacting with the kids in a perfectly appropriate way, he's giving them a bit of gentle teasing/trolling, but he's also entertaining them and having fun with them. There's nothing weird or sexual about it. So it's perfectly possible to have normal, positive, wholesome interactions with minors.
Tom, when will you be back from getting milk? It's been 7 years
Dude didn’t even try to hide it, wtf
i'd rather predators dont hide or try to.
@xIQGaming You're kind of saying you want them to prey in the daylight which is also bad.
The one positive is that Nour's viewership is likely gonna blow-up and it's gonna be mostly people there watching to make sure this doesn't happen again lol
Also grooming is not intent, this is 100% grooming whether he meant it or not
Dj Freakydemiks
He is a pdf
The fact that this little kid if calling out adults if insane. I do see why people say this is grooming though bc they are heavily trying to influence him into sexual situations which is at the very least suspicious and wrong. They just don’t care that they’re talking to a little kid. Very very wrong and suspicious af. Idk the drake glazing makes sense that’s all I’m saying 🙌🏼
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Even if he didn't mean something creepy towards the kid and he just took it too far the fact that he was trolling a 15 year old orphan refugee it's still pretty disgusting
That kids an orphan? Who is he living with?
@@NotAnotherKuromihe’s not his mom died tho he lives with his dad and brother
That kid is HOW OLD?!! He looks and sounds 9!
He’s just short and his age and underdeveloped
@@zzxgj nah he looks 15, some people grow up differently, i had a friend at 15 that had a almost full beard
Kendrick talking about drake who Ak HEAVILY defended said “them predators move in flocks, they need their names placed on neighborhood watch”
This kid is based. Good for him calling them out.
To be completely fair if this happened to a 15 year old girl, there would be much more of an outcry. Any child should never be put into a situation like this.
because men dont care when men are S/Aed its been proven time and time.
How do you get banned from the McDonalds app genuinely
Not defending but this is annoyingly weirdly common. I know myself I've had weird older dudes speak to me about very adult stuff when i was a child. I don't think they're groomers but it's an old thing i hope dies because it's somewhat encourages early exposure to adult content which isn't good for any kid.
Somewhat?!?
lol am I the only one dead at the commentators voice? "The child-uh was groomed-uh."
I hate to be that person but when kris tyson did this exact same thing there was no question that it was weird but when DJAK does it its "normal" "nothing burger" i dont get it yall, keep the consistency
no one is saying its a nothing burger tho, its creepy but it doesnt mean hes a predator, also kris tyson has a lot more incriminating evidence and a ton more weird comments than this situation
@weird623 some people in the live chat were saying that you're right, though Kris or ava, did have a lot more incriminating texts
tom you NEED to drop the percs man💔
Akademiks defended Lil Boom despite video evidence and he was even convicted of SA an 8 years old in public. Also his discord is 80% pdfs and s offenders. He is 100% a pdf just like Flakko id who also has a case.
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why are you spamming this shit over and over lmao
Bc its true @@weird623
Tom yawning in the thumbnail? This is going to be a banger video fr
Tom the type of guy that has a haircut
First up, I don’t think you were trying to justify him at all, but I did want to make one point that came up while watching. Thankfully from the outside Nour seems ok, but I think those of us who have had adults say weird stuff to us when young, know what I mean when I say words can harm and stick around with you quite a lot in life.
I agree these guys may not have had serious intentions, but if they’re not having those intentions, then why even ask those questions in the first place? I mean, it’s literally in your title so you do get it.
There are sadly adults in this world who may never ever touch a child, but who definitely “get off” in some weird way on making them uncomfortable. If pedophilia isn’t the right term for that, we need to invent some new words…
DJ Akademiks on his DGG arc
Savage
You mean EDP or is DDG on some weird shit too
@@whatsittoyoulol ya what happened with DDG? Is he kid Diddler?
@@bhaz6854Nah, he sent a sextape to someone, and the girl in the vid almost ended herself
@@bhaz6854 dgg is destiny’s fan base not ddg the rapper
21:25 just because it's been normalized or "everyone does it" does not make it okay such an L argument
I’m ngl this just reminds me of Xbox parties back in the day or my weird Skype group friends they’d say crazy stuff lol and it was people 12-30 something in there. It was crazy
I have two teenagers and this just disgusts me to listen to. I feel bad for the kid
hate to break it to you but they ve heard much worse on the internet lmao
When drake was accused and akademics was vehemently defending him. Im not accusing anyone but...
drake's biggest defender being a creep? yeah im not suprised
It's crazy when something like this happens and people come out the woodwork saying it's normal because it happened to them. it's like, yeah, that's kinda what happens. You get violated by adults as a kid, then you grow up and do that same thing...
Tom i'm divorcing you and taking full custody of the white outline
"You should never interact with a minor" mb lemme fire my little brother who runs my art insta 😭
Why does he look like that
Lookin like a bullfrog eyeing a fly fr fr
@@MustyYew “whats wrong with you faaaaace”
Hennessy
It is just how TurkeyTom is.
Chronic gooning
This guy saying A-K instead of Ak is the whitest shit I’ve ever heard
22:30 It isn't a "black community issue", it's a groomer community issue. He should be in jail or worse
i've seen this dumb shit of people saying "its X community issue" to project their weirdo behaviour onto things
"The hood sounds like a bad place to be." Hot take of the year.
Folks who power trip on the most vulnerable, have some serious self-esteem issues. It isn't even about entertainment with these losers.
No way this guy is 15 he looks and sounds like he is 12 at most
right? makes this more uncomfortable to listen to
The hormones hit some kids late, a guy in school was like 5ft and scrawny when he was 16, then I saw him after college and he was massive and tall, like 3 times the size he was.
ak went from every comment section being all fat jokes to now being all p3dǒ jokes 💀
I’m 22, and I still talk and hangout with my brother and his friends. They’re 4 years younger than me. I see them as other brothers, so I don’t think it’s wrong to have those relationships. But, when it comes to teenagers buddying up with complete strangers there should be caution.
teen morality issue. some people dont grow out of that weird, edgy bullshit, and we simply dont live in that world anymore.
it's weird that for once i'm way more familiar with a suspect
than Tom is
@nickl6373 yeah it was kinda interesting to hear him kinda handle the situation with alot of nuance when AK has been very weird with minors before. Idk if that'll change Tom's opinion but this shit is a pattern with AK. NOT the first time he's been weird with minors. This might be his 3rd + incident.
Any grown man who says "pause" after anything is automatically suspect in my eyes
It's a common "I don't want to be caused of being gay ha ha" cover. It's pathetic for adults to do and is often done by idiots.
When a child is acting more adult and professional than these actual adults.
Send him a stop gooning hat
Damn that kid was born when i was in 6th-7th grade. Life is going by
15:18 no one thinks that adults should never ever talk to kids thats regarded Tom. If a youth sports coach was found to be in private calls after school with kids he coaches, it would be weird even without knowing the content of the call. Its circumstantial. But theres a lot more kiddy-diddlers than there are good reasons to be personal friends with children.
He was deadass replying to someone in chat that said that lol
If someone said it in chat then people do think this unless you believe that’s the only person on planet earth with that thought process
Nah people do say that. You yourself stung by private call is inherently weird in itself suggests you don't think adults should be talking to kids at all.
A lot of people are so concerned with avoiding pedos that they want kids to be isolated from any friendly relationships with adults,which ironically actually makes them more at risk of being targeted and succumbing to the groomers attention.
Plenty of kids have benefitted from mentor type relationships with teachers, coaches, older family friends etc, some wouldn't have the job or positive outlook they do tidy without the positive influence of other adults. It especially benefits kids who are struggling, who are neglected at home, who struggle with focus or self esteem, who have disabilities etc. It is not just a net positive to discourage any child and adult relationships.
@ Mentor is generally a different role to personal friend. Of course children need to feel listened to and cared for, but for 99%+ of cases that looks like friends or family or an authority figure at school (in school grounds).
a drake glazer getting exposed for being a creep to a minor? no way
Getting banned from the McDonald's app is insane 😭
We're usually on the same page, Tom. But bro, you totally missed on this one. Unwanted sexual comments is sexual harassment, which is in fact a crime. Maybe you been upper decking too many 9 mg zyns
I talk with my friends this way all the time, I dont think he had any crazy intentions he just needs to have boundaries
Kendrick said it
22:20 this is 100% true and it is a bad place to be. Other things that are completely normalized within those “communities” but never spoken of critically are a variety of other more serious matters that are related to this subject. Adult men going after minors is 110% a normalized thing in the “hood”. Pimping and trafficking of these girls is also a 110% normalized thing in these “communities”. Intrafamilial abuse and “relations” is also a 110% normalized thing in these “communities”. This is an open secret within these communities that is rarely addressed outside of them, but seriously needs to be. It’s why I always laugh when you hear someone of the same flock as akademiks making joke about White folks being sister-cousins or predators as if these “communities” aren’t literally plagued by that type of garbage throughout the entire country.
“What dat mean” is crazy 😂😂😂
1st: Chat is being cancer as always, 2nd: I cant handle the way this Academics dude talks
Who tf said “context missing” 😭😭😭 that’s insane. There’s no context missing, dude is a kid
poopy seconds and no poops, bro pooped off :////
Ah man, the kid sounds genuinely so uncomfortable and is the only one talking sense. He is probably only entertaining it to grow his channel.
It is wild when the 15yo it's the most reasonable person in the room...