4Horses&Counting 1 no. some horses can be ny guy likes to spook at every 4th sniff and the pile of tyres that never move in the arena that he loves jumping when they're laid out. but some horses don't like strange bratty children acting like a fanny so it's their fault not the Shetland.
4Horses&Counting 1 ALSO not only was he acting like a fucking idiot he did it right at the shetlands back side WHILE IT WAS EATING. pecking order dictates if that Shetland feels it's above you in the pecking order it's gonna tell you to fuck off. which is what it did. if you actually have 4 horses I feel sorry for them because clearly you have no understanding of horse behaviour and how they associate what goes on around them. horses are not assholes for no reason.
cjam191 The people are backing up when the horse walks up to them This is teaching the horse if l pin my ears and walk towards them they back up and give me release which means l'm higher. Pretty dangerous behavior. They're lucky the boy wasn't bit or kicked
That is why you do not feed ponies on the New Forest! Tourists! Being a citizen of the New Forest it really annoys me when tourists feed the ponies-native or not- even though it says in numerous brochures and on signs not to feed them. Especially human food!
We never handfeed our ponies anything, and we do not allow others to do so, either. We do not want them ever to get the idea that fingers are supposed to contain food. The entire issue in this video is that the ponies are demanding to be fed treats, and are punishing any people who fail to feed them. Jumping and running are a side issue. Mainly it's food.
*****"Its cause we surrounded him" "No, it's because I've got the food." Like really? They obviously cant read the body language of the pony, they shouldn't be feeding it treats, and they are totally letting it dominate them.
K Karen E it is also because they surrounded the front of him and when the boy started jumping and flailing the horse had no chance of escaping and thought it had to attack
Ashley Jones Fair enough, But horses, even ponies are can be dangerous. It would have been much smarter if they had someone there who knew what they were doing. Perhaps it was a little harsh to call them idiots, but they definitely weren't being smart.
As she comes for the food first you can take that's the leading mare. The leading mare keeps everyone in the herd in line and the kid jumping up and down waving his hands is like the red naughty flag to the mare. You see she 'drives him out' with a well aimed kick and walking straight up to him, her ears flat. She's just telling him to get lost until he can behave. The others reacting scared to her makes her even more annoyed XD I loooove ponies.
Matilda Longnight his body language was aggressive the whole times ignorant people like you don't know how to use arrogant right and also think they understand horses when you also have to watch their body language.
why are u calling me ignorant? I am not the one at fault here. yes I see that the pony turned aggressive but the only reason why it did that was because the young boy was waving his arms around so he got scared and nervous so it made the people around it know that he wasn't comfortable so he did what his Instincts told him and told them to back off. your the ignorant one! seeing one of your other comments calling Shetlands 'little shits'. really? how can you say that? every horse and pony has a reason for what the do. yes it they may have a shorter temper than other breeds but every horse has a reason. and body language is their way of telling us humans how they feel. so no they are not 'little shits' you just have no perspective at all. you are the ignorant one.
Matilda Longnight Matilda Longnight they are little shits and by little shits I mean they are little turds sometimes. Just because I add the word "shit" in there does not mean I'm ignorant and because I called you ignorant does not mean you are at fault lol. You and other people on RUclips (who have never dealt with horses it seems) seem to think horses are like Disney characters and can understand everything a human says or does. THIS Shetland knew he was boss and if he was frightened, he would have ran. Kicking is aggressive behavior. They stopped giving him treats, Shetland got angry. Little boy waving his arms did not help, but if the kid was the problem, he would have kicked at the kid, not the person who he knew was holding the treats. Yes. I still think shetlands are little shits. And I always will from personal experiences and from seeing kids deal with them.
He keeps pushing you because you back away when he does that. He is now higher on the hierarchy, he is the dominating animal in this herd. The pony essentially owns all of you. Thank your luck it wasn't a bigger horse, because that can get dangerous really fast if you let them push and walk all over you like that. You need to be calm and assertive with horses, and they will respect you.
I get what your saying but when a horse turns his hind end towards you you need to back away straight away other wise you could end up with a nasty kick I think it's just best to stay away from horses u don't know that show sings of aggressive/dominant behaviour when u have children with you
Dragon Girl You shouldn't let it get to that point in the first place, but for most horses turning or even raising a leg is just bluffing. Very few actually escalate to kicking. If you let it go on however, the horse will keep trying to get higher in the hierarchy and at the same time more dangerous. Of course, you shouldn't push it if the horse is unknown to you.
Although, ponies are known for being little shits, and being more aggressive. I would sooner trust the thoroughbred I ride with my 4 year old sister than the Shetland pony at the farm.
@@juliannedewitt4288 Oh definitely. Concentrated sass. Had a pony that intentionally would clothesline unsuspecting children on this one low-lying branch in the back pasture. I swear ponies smell weakness.
And just how did you become a horse person Angel Case ?? The only way i know to become a horse person is by being around them. Not everyone gets to grow up around them...Besides, its clear that they learned from their mistake. No damage done here...
Michael Fisher I have ridden since i was 5 my grandfather owned horses that competed in Steeple Chase and my aunt fox hunts. I ride dressage and eventing and i own a horse
lol, I think you mean that non-horse people should stay away from the testy type of horses, or greenies, or any horse that's not a quiet, near-bombproof type. This is where you can show off some beginner rider trainwrecks, and provide your handy dandy advertisement for your lessons program for newbies to get acquainted with well-trained schoolmasters. Yep, that's a good way to get introduced to horses, because really most people don't understand equine behavior at all.
I live about 3 miles away from where this film was shot, its in the middle of the enclosures where newforest ponies, donkeys, cows and pigs roam free. There are many MANY signs saying DO NOT FEED THE PONIES!!!! They are not pets and most are never handled by humans, anyone trying to feed them risk getting bitten or kicked.
lucy5471 they don't look like the roam and have never been handled to me. That shetland has perfectly trimmed hooves most likely by a farrier and it's awfully clean to have never been groomed in its life
+Laura BLair there is an anual round up where all horses are taken off the forest to be vet checked and have their feet done. I don't think you can say the pony is clean as you can't really tell over film, however horses find ways to keep themselves clean too.
Thank you for the grammar critique. We live in the Forest too. Very lucky. I hate it when people feed or pet the ponies when all the signs remind people that they are wild and not to. Probably the same people who drive over 40mph and mow them down too :-(
Just another result of human foolishness creating a problem of a dangerous pony. This pony has been allowed to dominate humans, and has not been handled correctly or taught dicipline. He will get a lot worse quickly, if this type of socialization is continued. When you allow horses or ponies to get dangerously condidtioned, you have trained them to be bad, just as surely as if you did it on purpose.
It is domineering behavior. You're right to a degree. Some ponies are cantankerously cheeky. They can go well for a wise person that knows pony behavior like this. Basically, don't let a novice deal with a pony like this. You can in fact insist on good behavior with a naughty pony, but, if a novice handles this same pony, you'll see the same dirty tricks come to life. Yet, give the same pony to an experienced handler, and the bad behavior stops when the pony realizes those tricks don't work.
@Carys Shaw yep. Ponies are notorious for being little brats when dealing with inexperienced people. I'm not saying the pony wasn't defending itself, but it seemed used to people, so it's not super likely.
That pony is asserting his dominance and everyone is yielding to him when he pushes. He needed to have his feet moved and reminded that he can't push people around. Giving him treats and backing away from him when he turns his flank to you is only teaching him that he can push humans around and get rewarded for it.
Obliviously the pony was threatened when he was young around the back end and is now cautious about there. Also, never feed more than two treats at a time. That will teach bad manners.
No, he's very obviously establishing that he's the boss, and the humans are agreeing with every move they make. You can see at the very start of the video that he is demanding and rude.
The boy in the right hand corner started jumping around when he was just centimetres away from the pony. The Shetland was scared and therefore turned his hind to kick, he/she was defending themselves, not being naughty.
Just an observation - Look who she faces after the kick. The boy was jumping around and she was telling him to stop, exactly how she would have done to an unruly foal.
What this little Shetland mare is doing is exactly what she'd do to a foal or a subordinate who was misbehaving and causing a problem within the herd. I personally feel that she was entirely justified because Elliott was acting like a fool. Once he stopped jumping around the mare returned to her normal pattern. Equines don't normally seek conflict unless they've been provoked or there are stallions involved in herd dominance battles.
I think that pony needs to learn some ground manners!!! Pushing for food is not acceptable. Also i wouldn't let him chase you around like that, i know it probably was intimidating, but stand your ground and push or slap him away. Allowing him to chase you will only increase his bad manners and confidence in himself. He's really cute though!
This horse has learned that by getting to be in charge of the stupid humans, and moving their feet is to buck and pin his ears. This horse is not being mean at all. In the horse world it is to whomever moves their feet first loses, and obviously the humans moved their feet first and he has gained control. If the people knew what to do, they would stand their ground and move his feet. Also, those other horses are watching him, and some of them were bigger than him so, if the shetland pony could do it, obviously a bigger horse could do it as well. Remember, horses are always watching and learning.
I breed shetland ponies and they are all well mannered. It's already been said in the comments about hand feeding and the best advice given to me which I followed when I bought my very first shetland many years ago was never feed them from your hand. Our ponies come to us as they enjoy human company rather than looking for treats. Some people who visit express surprise at their good manners but if ponies are brought up not to expect food from your hand, then they don't become nibbly or bite or be constantly looking for treats and displaying other bad behaviour in the process. It's understandable that people may think it's ok to offer treats but in my opinion it's definitely not a good idea - we put up polite notices on our boundary fence asking that our ponies are not fed. Agree other comments - stay safe around ponies or horses you don't know :-)
This was in the New Forest, these ponies aren't trained or ridden, they live out in the fields and forest. People just go and pat them and feed them every day, they're used to it. He was probably jus startled by the boy jumping, then when everyone else freaked out he did too, he did nothing wrong and I bet every other day he's perfectly friendly and happy.
THIS IS NOT A SHETLAND TURNING BAD. THIS KID WAS JUMPING AND WAVING HIS ARMS AROUND. ALL THIS PONY WAS DOING WAS PROTECTING HIM OR HERSELF. FOR ALL THE PONY KNOES THIS KID COILD HAVE BEEN READY TO HIT HIM OR HER SO, BEFORE YOU SAY THIS SHETLAND IS TURNING BAD THINK ABOUT IT!!!!!
This pony felt insecure as it was being crowded around and the boy was jumping around which spooked it a bit! Also u fed it to many treats which also made him want even more!
Some people assume that Shetland ponies’ size makes them an ideal choice for a small child’s first riding pony. WRONG. They are lovable characters but they’re typically strong willed and independent, and can be pretty stubborn in the hands of an inexperienced rider. A great pet or companion, but for a small child’s first mount I’d probably consider another breed.
The satisfaction on that little horses face when he sees that he has threatened all those giant humans is great:) and they were a bit close and shouldn't have been surrounding the poor thing.
Part of the problem might be not be just the pony, I think the question might be how much training did the little fella get. Shetlands are known to be spoiled by their owners, hence the reason they sometimes act that. Also they are prey animals and the fight or flight instincts would kick in it's their nature.
If you guys were paying attention all the signs he was giving, you would've seen this coming. For instance, pinned ears, swishing tail, being greedy when taking food. Plus, y'all were crowding him badly so he was just saying he wanted space. Also, if y'all back away from him after he did that, he thinks that he controls you and thinks he is the boss. Not to mention the boy jumping up and down and flailing like a maniac
I note this is in the New Forest. Be careful, there is a forest byelaw which forbids the feeding of forest stock and can get you a £200 fine and a criminal record if you do!
Obviously they don't know much about horses. The pony knew they had treats and wanted them. The people thought the pony was mad and aggressive so they got scared.
That was not because you surrounded him that was dominance behavior. He was treating those people the way he would another horse that was getting in his way. A good kick back in the bum would make sure he doesn't think that is acceptable behavior towards people, by establishing a dominance hierarchy. He is adorable but definitely spoiled. It can be hard not to spoil those little cuties.
You can easily tell the horse isn't happy by the ears these people don't know horse language and what were they feeding it cuz it looks like candy and they were surrounding it I say it is 0% the pony's fault
I highly doubt it's because he felt threatened. He was showing his dominance and being completely disrespectful. Receiving treats while his ears are pinned is a big no-no.
You know feeding makes the horses mean. These are new forest ponies and if you opened your eyes you would see all around the national park there are posters telling you DONT FEED THE HORSES.
These people just thaught (or reinforced the bad behaviour) this pony that he can make people move when he kicks. You just told the pony that you're the lower horse and this pony is the higher horse. THESE kind of things are what makes horses labelled as dangerous. It's not the horses' fault. It's the people around them.
I think it was because the kid was jumping around, in equus language the pony probably thought he was going to steal or pinch his place and fight for his treats....basically the pony was showing him who was boss, then the lady stepped forward and got kicked instead. Not all Shetland ponies are trouble makers ;) I used to ride a sweet one and he was very kind and understanding, such a misunderstood nature for those ponies.
My best friend has 2 ponys and they are safe to be around because she is educated on horses. So dont write stupid comments if you have no idea about horses people!!!!!
There is no abuse here! just an extremely spoiled pony that doesn't want to wait for his treats! if you watch the video you will see the pony went to kick the woman taking ages getting treats out of the wrapper, not the small child jumping up and down behind it. It wasn't threatened in any way at all! It is just a bad mannered, spoiled brat! Obviously this behavior was caused by the people treating him for no reason, you can't just ad lib giving treats! that's what ruins them
the people were in a field full of horses, they started crowding around the pony and the pony thought they were horses so he/she were being dominant with ears pinned back and kicking around.
More like when people turn ponies bad. :P My pony would never act like this b/c he has been trained well and he's only 4. I corrected his bad habits at 2yrs old. He knows that there are only two palces he is allowed to blow off steam with kicking and bucking and YEHAWing around. That is the pasture and the round pen, he can moter in circles around me all he wants.
Jean Bon You're right the people should be corrected here but that doesn't mean the horse gets to do whatever animals need corrections too Many let their horses push them around, pin their ears at them and those are behaviors that if they're not corrected You're gonna end up with a aggressive horse that was caused by humans who have no idea how to work with pressure and release. And animals are always the victim People need to learn how to work with pressure and release.
Jean Bon At the end the child ran away from the horse Now the horse learned: If l pin my ears and walk towards him he moves away and l'm higher. First it's earpinning than it turns to biting and kicking and they need to know they can't do this to humans. And only horsemen or horsewomen know how to correct that
Jean Bon You should correct during the moment wrong happens not later indeed. Like for example if a horse pushes you push back immediately not 10 mins later. But horses learn very fast if these guys did this more often it would become a habit
Marit it’s just a nice funny video, no need to go all internet instructor on them, they don’t even look horsey at all they were just feeding the cute ponies
Brodie Blair Look l get your point he is cute and these people are obviously ignorant when it comes to horses. But there are so many cases where people get hurt around horses because they don't understand their body language. This pony was feeling crowded and uncomfortable remember humans are predators for them this was a similar situation as dogs surrounding them. He was bucking already if he kicked the child in the face most people would've put the horse to sleep The boy wanted to give the horse a treat which is cute but than he ran away and the horse was dominating the young child by pinning his ears and pushing. Now if that would've continued eventually the pony would've started bucking or striking or biting and than people will say: This horse is dangerous it's needs to be put down. And than again the horse is the victim of human ignorance l honestly don't find that so entertaining .. I don't like seeing animals or people get hurt. Yes they are a cute family But it's not wrong to teach others something new.
for 1: that little boy was jumping about like a mad man next to him, for 2 you all started screaming and for 3 you were all surrounding him. feed a horse no more than 2 treats at a time, i only give mine 3 a day;one in the morning one after hes been lunged or ridden and one before i go home that teaches bad manners to the horse and i dont blame it for doing what it did
It wouldn't have been such an issue having the jumpy kid there if there wasn't a lot of people around the pony. The pony probably just reacted to the jumping around because he was hemmed in, so he went to fight since flight wasn't an available option.
Correct. I was fortunate to have horsey parents so they taught me how to behave around horses and other animals from a young age. You see this sort of thing happen whenever parents don't control or teach their children how to behave around animals. If you go to a place with a lot of horses, you and your children need to learn what is appropriate. Horses are prey animals and they get scared easily because that's how they have had to survive in the wild.
That 'tiny Shetland pony' probably weighs over 300 pounds. Apparently you've never been kicked by an equine. They have these very sharp, hard feet called 'hooves'.
Do people not realise that this is a wild Shetland pony, from the new forest? Everyone keeps talking of these people correcting their ponies behaviour and learning to treat their horse's better, or whatever. But, guess what, it's not their pony! It's a wild pony! It doesn't know any better or any other way to act! If it were their pony, this would never have happened as they would see the signs and body language the pony was showing and know how to react to it themselves
Always correct bad behavior! Some ppl think they are cute babies. Yes, they are cute. Tiny. But believe me.... they can hurt you in a heart beat and that kind of out look on a mini will get you hurt fast. I look at our 2yr old mini as a full size horse bc his attitude isn't always cute or tiny. Lol! I love him still 😍😍😍😍😍😍! Always!
Just because they are little, doesn't mean that don't have a mean kick. I was kicked right square in the mouth by one of my mini's. (I have been a miniature horse owner for 12 years now.)
That pony was just behaving like in the wild. Either I push your feet around or you push mine so when you run away he thinks he's more dominant so he gets annoyed when you don't follow. Simple.
well yeah.. they are, for all intent and purposes, wild horses and that's the reason theres signs throughout the forest telling people not to feed them lol
And when he was asked what did you do, he said nothing. he said nothing, which she just accepted. He may have been oblivious to the fact that pratting about at a pony's rear end is not wise, rather than out and out lying, but let's hope that when they looked at the video later she was able learn something and to make sure all the children did too.
Here's a better title for this video: "When ignorant humans who have no business being around horses or ponies do the exact opposite of how you should act when you are near these creatures." To blame this Shetland pony for its behavior is ridiculous. The child that was jumping and jerking was out of control. They are very lucky he didn't get a hoof in the head. He could have been seriously injured.
@StyleMisser btw, having an account on Horse Isle doesnt mean you know it all about horses. We're talking real flesh and blood horses here, not computer generated game horses. the two are vastly different.
What's really interesting to me anyway is that this little mare is the boss of that whole group of horses. Watch as the chestnut follows toward the end. Head down and following. Submissive posture. No other horses asking for food from these people while she's present.
There is no sign of fear in this pony at all at any point. Nor is she out of control or agressive. All her behavior is natural in relation to the human behavior around her. She is claiming the space, since no-one else is, and telling the boy to back off when he gets uncomfortably close to her and behaves like he is trying to clame the space from her and challenge her position as the established boss now. Since everyone backs off from her it reinforces the idea in her mind that she is in charge and these creatures are lower in the rung than her. They are rewarding her for this behavior by giving her treats. She is not "bad" in any way. These people can get pushed over, trampled, or nipped at. Totally their own fault. People are not obligated to train their equines to bow down to every clueless person who happens to enter the paddock. She can't take any "good behavior" cues from these people, since they are encouraging her (with their own behavior) to do exactly what she is doing.
Semmostahauskaa Exactly!!! They are crowding her, a boy is jumping like a pogo stick behind her (BAD IDEA) and she delivers a surprisingly agile 360 kick! She is driving the girl like she would drive a subordinate herd member. And what do they do? Feed her candy which is reinforcing her behavior AND since it's full of sugar it's increasing her energy level. I had the job of moving a slightly bigger pony than this from the round pen to a paddock full of grass. She knew the drill. But she wanted to dominate me by shoving me off the path! So I gave her an elbow to the side of the neck and reclaimed my space. She tried it once more with the same results. I had "kicked" her like another horse would. She got it. We had no more trouble.
You shouldn't run away from a horse when it's pinning its ears at you or trying to bite you. The horse is learning if it does that to people they run away and leave them alone and think they are in charge. Instead you should of turned to that horse not backed away and made the pony back away. You should be in charge. If you've ridden horses since you was 5 you should already know this. On of the most important things when around horses. I understand not being able to do do that when you was 5 but when your about 10 you can. I'm 12 and volunteer at my riding school and have been riding and around horses for a little over 3 years and already know this and not afraid to do it. Your feeding it and it's getting real close to you which means he thinks he's boss and he's asking for treats and gets what he wants. Unbelievable.
Take my opinion or leave it, but from a few seconds in he was asking for space- whether his body language was aggressive or not. And although there could have been several things bothering the little guy I noticed the most prominent one was the kid jumping about behind him!! My horse is getting on now, and has practically seen it all, bombproof, but even he would get a little frisky at someone leaping about behind him! This is not hate!!!No crit please, spreading my opinion, just like we are all entitled to do!
XD he wasn't "scared little pony" He's a little bad ass look at him! Sticks his nose in their face, pins his ears and says "Bitches...feed me...or else" and of course they feed him so he learns being aggressive works! When the boy started jumping around it was like a baby foal playing, it irritated him and he went "You there!! Quit now or I'll kick you!!" All these people standing there were his herd, his bitches, and he was the all knowing lead stallion that calls the shots or else. XD
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Im pretty sure the young boy jumping waving his arms about like an idiot is what set the shetland pony off.
4Horses&Counting 1 no. some horses can be ny guy likes to spook at every 4th sniff and the pile of tyres that never move in the arena that he loves jumping when they're laid out. but some horses don't like strange bratty children acting like a fanny so it's their fault not the Shetland.
4Horses&Counting 1 ALSO not only was he acting like a fucking idiot he did it right at the shetlands back side WHILE IT WAS EATING. pecking order dictates if that Shetland feels it's above you in the pecking order it's gonna tell you to fuck off. which is what it did. if you actually have 4 horses I feel sorry for them because clearly you have no understanding of horse behaviour and how they associate what goes on around them. horses are not assholes for no reason.
cjam191 The people are backing up when the horse walks up to them
This is teaching the horse if l pin my ears and walk towards them they back up and give me release which means l'm higher.
Pretty dangerous behavior.
They're lucky the boy wasn't bit or kicked
cjam191 duh no shit
Natalie Marshall no....it was indeed that hyper brat that set it off.
Why you should tell a child NOT to be all jumpy around horses..
That is why you do not feed ponies on the New Forest! Tourists! Being a citizen of the New Forest it really annoys me when tourists feed the ponies-native or not- even though it says in numerous brochures and on signs not to feed them. Especially human food!
We never handfeed our ponies anything, and we do not allow others to do so, either. We do not want them ever to get the idea that fingers are supposed to contain food. The entire issue in this video is that the ponies are demanding to be fed treats, and are punishing any people who fail to feed them. Jumping and running are a side issue. Mainly it's food.
It was because that boy was jumping up and down and flailing. It scared the horse, he wanted to kick the kid.
xjackiex acsectly
That pony isn't scared. That pony is dominant and pushy.
Bonnie Hundley not really, they did surround them and the kid was agitated, too much pressure so he wanted space
@@Starry_Night_Sky7455 ich denke, daß du sehr dominant bist.
I think that too
* face palm* Idiots... total idiots.Who the hell lets people like that around their horses?!
*****"Its cause we surrounded him"
"No, it's because I've got the food."
Like really? They obviously cant read the body language of the pony, they shouldn't be feeding it treats, and they are totally letting it dominate them.
K Karen E it is also because they surrounded the front of him and when the boy started jumping and flailing the horse had no chance of escaping and thought it had to attack
Lindsey Baker does anyone know about fight or flight with horses in a situation???
Ashley Jones Fair enough, But horses, even ponies are can be dangerous. It would have been much smarter if they had someone there who knew what they were doing. Perhaps it was a little harsh to call them idiots, but they definitely weren't being smart.
+Lindsey Baker You should stay away from horses until you learn how to read them better. That pony was being bossy. It wasn't frightened at all.
“Elliot what did you do?!” 😂😂
As she comes for the food first you can take that's the leading mare. The leading mare keeps everyone in the herd in line and the kid jumping up and down waving his hands is like the red naughty flag to the mare. You see she 'drives him out' with a well aimed kick and walking straight up to him, her ears flat. She's just telling him to get lost until he can behave. The others reacting scared to her makes her even more annoyed XD I loooove ponies.
Arrogant people don't know a thing about horses. That poor pony was doing what his instincts told him to
Matilda Longnight his body language was aggressive the whole times ignorant people like you don't know how to use arrogant right and also think they understand horses when you also have to watch their body language.
why are u calling me ignorant? I am not the one at fault here. yes I see that the pony turned aggressive but the only reason why it did that was because the young boy was waving his arms around so he got scared and nervous so it made the people around it know that he wasn't comfortable so he did what his Instincts told him and told them to back off. your the ignorant one! seeing one of your other comments calling Shetlands 'little shits'. really? how can you say that? every horse and pony has a reason for what the do. yes it they may have a shorter temper than other breeds but every horse has a reason. and body language is their way of telling us humans how they feel. so no they are not 'little shits' you just have no perspective at all. you are the ignorant one.
Matilda Longnight Matilda Longnight they are little shits and by little shits I mean they are little turds sometimes. Just because I add the word "shit" in there does not mean I'm ignorant and because I called you ignorant does not mean you are at fault lol. You and other people on RUclips (who have never dealt with horses it seems) seem to think horses are like Disney characters and can understand everything a human says or does. THIS Shetland knew he was boss and if he was frightened, he would have ran. Kicking is aggressive behavior. They stopped giving him treats, Shetland got angry. Little boy waving his arms did not help, but if the kid was the problem, he would have kicked at the kid, not the person who he knew was holding the treats. Yes. I still think shetlands are little shits. And I always will from personal experiences and from seeing kids deal with them.
Yeah, horses can be "shits" sometimes, but that time, it was this little boy fault.
thank you! I'm glad you agree with me! :)
The boy was jumping thats wrong you should never jump behind a horse
Capri it was the humans fault
@Capri it was
He keeps pushing you because you back away when he does that. He is now higher on the hierarchy, he is the dominating animal in this herd. The pony essentially owns all of you. Thank your luck it wasn't a bigger horse, because that can get dangerous really fast if you let them push and walk all over you like that. You need to be calm and assertive with horses, and they will respect you.
I get what your saying but when a horse turns his hind end towards you you need to back away straight away other wise you could end up with a nasty kick I think it's just best to stay away from horses u don't know that show sings of aggressive/dominant behaviour when u have children with you
Dragon Girl You shouldn't let it get to that point in the first place, but for most horses turning or even raising a leg is just bluffing. Very few actually escalate to kicking. If you let it go on however, the horse will keep trying to get higher in the hierarchy and at the same time more dangerous. Of course, you shouldn't push it if the horse is unknown to you.
Spot on!
Although, ponies are known for being little shits, and being more aggressive. I would sooner trust the thoroughbred I ride with my 4 year old sister than the Shetland pony at the farm.
@@juliannedewitt4288 Oh definitely. Concentrated sass. Had a pony that intentionally would clothesline unsuspecting children on this one low-lying branch in the back pasture. I swear ponies smell weakness.
"Elliot what did you do?"
"Nothing!"
You jumped up and down and spooked the pony -.-
non horse people just stay away from horses
And just how did you become a horse person Angel Case ?? The only way i know to become a horse person is by being around them. Not everyone gets to grow up around them...Besides, its clear that they learned from their mistake. No damage done here...
Michael Fisher I have ridden since i was 5 my grandfather owned horses that competed in Steeple Chase and my aunt fox hunts. I ride dressage and eventing and i own a horse
I'm pretty sure the question was "how do you expect people to become a horse person without being brought up around them" not "what's your life story"
lol, I think you mean that non-horse people should stay away from the testy type of horses, or greenies, or any horse that's not a quiet, near-bombproof type. This is where you can show off some beginner rider trainwrecks, and provide your handy dandy advertisement for your lessons program for newbies to get acquainted with well-trained schoolmasters. Yep, that's a good way to get introduced to horses, because really most people don't understand equine behavior at all.
Yes. And when you're around horses for the first time(s) maybe have someone more experienced with you telling you what to do and what not to do.
I live about 3 miles away from where this film was shot, its in the middle of the enclosures where newforest ponies, donkeys, cows and pigs roam free. There are many MANY signs saying DO NOT FEED THE PONIES!!!! They are not pets and most are never handled by humans, anyone trying to feed them risk getting bitten or kicked.
lucy5471 they don't look like the roam and have never been handled to me. That shetland has perfectly trimmed hooves most likely by a farrier and it's awfully clean to have never been groomed in its life
+Laura BLair there is an anual round up where all horses are taken off the forest to be vet checked and have their feet done. I don't think you can say the pony is clean as you can't really tell over film, however horses find ways to keep themselves clean too.
@@laurablair6110 they dont stay clean forever LMAO
@@laurablair6110 obviously they get muddy even after a wash, you cant stop a horse from getting dirty
Yes Yes DUH that’s exactly my point they are too clean to be wild horses
You should never feed the ponies that run the New Forest, also a breakfast bar is not suitable for horses and ponies.
Thank you for the grammar critique. We live in the Forest too. Very lucky. I hate it when people feed or pet the ponies when all the signs remind people that they are wild and not to. Probably the same people who drive over 40mph and mow them down too :-(
Just another result of human foolishness creating a problem of a dangerous pony. This pony has been allowed to dominate humans, and has not been handled correctly or taught dicipline. He will get a lot worse quickly, if this type of socialization is continued. When you allow horses or ponies to get dangerously condidtioned, you have trained them to be bad, just as surely as if you did it on purpose.
Carys- the original poster is correct. Yes can tel from half that video the whole story. That's human conditioning of the pony. Anyway, peace.
It is domineering behavior. You're right to a degree. Some ponies are cantankerously cheeky. They can go well for a wise person that knows pony behavior like this. Basically, don't let a novice deal with a pony like this. You can in fact insist on good behavior with a naughty pony, but, if a novice handles this same pony, you'll see the same dirty tricks come to life. Yet, give the same pony to an experienced handler, and the bad behavior stops when the pony realizes those tricks don't work.
@Carys Shaw yep. Ponies are notorious for being little brats when dealing with inexperienced people. I'm not saying the pony wasn't defending itself, but it seemed used to people, so it's not super likely.
That pony is asserting his dominance and everyone is yielding to him when he pushes. He needed to have his feet moved and reminded that he can't push people around. Giving him treats and backing away from him when he turns his flank to you is only teaching him that he can push humans around and get rewarded for it.
You can't just walk into a field with someone else's ponies !😅
Pony (to other ponies): Hey, guys! Watch me round-penning those idiots!
Obliviously the pony was threatened when he was young around the back end and is now cautious about there. Also, never feed more than two treats at a time. That will teach bad manners.
No, he's very obviously establishing that he's the boss, and the humans are agreeing with every move they make. You can see at the very start of the video that he is demanding and rude.
Cmon that was freaking hilarious!
The boy in the right hand corner started jumping around when he was just centimetres away from the pony. The Shetland was scared and therefore turned his hind to kick, he/she was defending themselves, not being naughty.
OHMYGOD! I MET THIS PONY WHEN I WAS IN THE NEW FOREST! HE WAS SO CUTE!
haha that pony owns you
Spoiled little pony, not scared. He'll keep acting like that as long as he can get away with it.
Do you even know anything about horses?
+NatashaNogoodnik Happy Hooves is right. They're little opportunists and you have to set boundaries.
Just an observation -
Look who she faces after the kick. The boy was jumping around and she was telling him to stop, exactly how she would have done to an unruly foal.
Gayle Klein true
Gayle Klein - 👍Absolutely!
"Elliot what did you do?"
I'm Elliot.
What this little Shetland mare is doing is exactly what she'd do to a foal or a subordinate who was misbehaving and causing a problem within the herd. I personally feel that she was entirely justified because Elliott was acting like a fool. Once he stopped jumping around the mare returned to her normal pattern.
Equines don't normally seek conflict unless they've been provoked or there are stallions involved in herd dominance battles.
I think that pony needs to learn some ground manners!!! Pushing for food is not acceptable. Also i wouldn't let him chase you around like that, i know it probably was intimidating, but stand your ground and push or slap him away. Allowing him to chase you will only increase his bad manners and confidence in himself. He's really cute though!
it was a semi wild pony
Isobel201 No offense or anything, but I don't really get how it can be semi-wild... I mean either he is wild or he is domestic...
"Elliot what did you do?" "Nothing!" Best line lol
The young boy jumping around to the side and back and being all hyper was what set the pony off.. pony perceived it as a possible threat.
Horses have nothing else to express that they need personal place. This pony did nothing but telling the poeple "Back off, I need place"
This horse has learned that by getting to be in charge of the stupid humans, and moving their feet is to buck and pin his ears. This horse is not being mean at all. In the horse world it is to whomever moves their feet first loses, and obviously the humans moved their feet first and he has gained control. If the people knew what to do, they would stand their ground and move his feet. Also, those other horses are watching him, and some of them were bigger than him so, if the shetland pony could do it, obviously a bigger horse could do it as well. Remember, horses are always watching and learning.
I breed shetland ponies and they are all well mannered. It's already been said in the comments about hand feeding and the best advice given to me which I followed when I bought my very first shetland many years ago was never feed them from your hand. Our ponies come to us as they enjoy human company rather than looking for treats. Some people who visit express surprise at their good manners but if ponies are brought up not to expect food from your hand, then they don't become nibbly or bite or be constantly looking for treats and displaying other bad behaviour in the process. It's understandable that people may think it's ok to offer treats but in my opinion it's definitely not a good idea - we put up polite notices on our boundary fence asking that our ponies are not fed. Agree other comments - stay safe around ponies or horses you don't know :-)
The son is about to be kicked and the father videotapes the scene laughing😂😂😂
This was in the New Forest, these ponies aren't trained or ridden, they live out in the fields and forest. People just go and pat them and feed them every day, they're used to it. He was probably jus startled by the boy jumping, then when everyone else freaked out he did too, he did nothing wrong and I bet every other day he's perfectly friendly and happy.
It's the little boy! You can't ever jump around ponies, he spooked him/her. He's lucky he got away fast enough.
THIS IS NOT A SHETLAND TURNING BAD. THIS KID WAS JUMPING AND WAVING HIS ARMS AROUND. ALL THIS PONY WAS DOING WAS PROTECTING HIM OR HERSELF. FOR ALL THE PONY KNOES THIS KID COILD HAVE BEEN READY TO HIT HIM OR HER SO, BEFORE YOU SAY THIS SHETLAND IS TURNING BAD THINK ABOUT IT!!!!!
And that is why my horse never gets treats.
His mood turned randomly bad lolol
This pony felt insecure as it was being crowded around and the boy was jumping around which spooked it a bit! Also u fed it to many treats which also made him want even more!
Some people assume that Shetland ponies’ size makes them an ideal choice for a small child’s first riding pony. WRONG. They are lovable characters but they’re typically strong willed and independent, and can be pretty stubborn in the hands of an inexperienced rider. A great pet or companion, but for a small child’s first mount I’d probably consider another breed.
The satisfaction on that little horses face when he sees that he has threatened all those giant humans is great:) and they were a bit close and shouldn't have been surrounding the poor thing.
Part of the problem might be not be just the pony, I think the question might be how much training did the little fella get. Shetlands are known to be spoiled by their owners, hence the reason they sometimes act that. Also they are prey animals and the fight or flight instincts would kick in it's their nature.
Its because that little boy was jumping around that pony rear end
If you guys were paying attention all the signs he was giving, you would've seen this coming. For instance, pinned ears, swishing tail, being greedy when taking food. Plus, y'all were crowding him badly so he was just saying he wanted space. Also, if y'all back away from him after he did that, he thinks that he controls you and thinks he is the boss.
Not to mention the boy jumping up and down and flailing like a maniac
That is what happens when you don't give the treats fast enough...lol
I note this is in the New Forest. Be careful, there is a forest byelaw which forbids the feeding of forest stock and can get you a £200 fine and a criminal record if you do!
Obviously they don't know much about horses. The pony knew they had treats and wanted them. The people thought the pony was mad and aggressive so they got scared.
That was not because you surrounded him that was dominance behavior. He was treating those people the way he would another horse that was getting in his way. A good kick back in the bum would make sure he doesn't think that is acceptable behavior towards people, by establishing a dominance hierarchy. He is adorable but definitely spoiled. It can be hard not to spoil those little cuties.
You can easily tell the horse isn't happy by the ears these people don't know horse language and what were they feeding it cuz it looks like candy and they were surrounding it I say it is 0% the pony's fault
I highly doubt it's because he felt threatened. He was showing his dominance and being completely disrespectful. Receiving treats while his ears are pinned is a big no-no.
You know feeding makes the horses mean. These are new forest ponies and if you opened your eyes you would see all around the national park there are posters telling you DONT FEED THE HORSES.
These people just thaught (or reinforced the bad behaviour) this pony that he can make people move when he kicks. You just told the pony that you're the lower horse and this pony is the higher horse.
THESE kind of things are what makes horses labelled as dangerous. It's not the horses' fault. It's the people around them.
I think it was because the kid was jumping around, in equus language the pony probably thought he was going to steal or pinch his place and fight for his treats....basically the pony was showing him who was boss, then the lady stepped forward and got kicked instead. Not all Shetland ponies are trouble makers ;) I used to ride a sweet one and he was very kind and understanding, such a misunderstood nature for those ponies.
The heading on this video says it all: When Shetland Ponies Turn Bad! Instead it should say, " When OWNERS are INCOMPETENT!
My best friend has 2 ponys and they are safe to be around because she is educated on horses. So dont write stupid comments if you have no idea about horses people!!!!!
Guys read the description, they were in the newforest, these ponys are wild, but tame.
There is no abuse here! just an extremely spoiled pony that doesn't want to wait for his treats! if you watch the video you will see the pony went to kick the woman taking ages getting treats out of the wrapper, not the small child jumping up and down behind it. It wasn't threatened in any way at all! It is just a bad mannered, spoiled brat! Obviously this behavior was caused by the people treating him for no reason, you can't just ad lib giving treats! that's what ruins them
"Elliot, what did you do?" haha.
You were standing behind him and yes, you were surrounding him so he feels nervous or scared. And you've got food
the people were in a field full of horses, they started crowding around the pony and the pony thought they were horses so he/she were being dominant with ears pinned back and kicking around.
Elliot what did you do!? Poor elliot didn't do anything the pony is just pig headed and needs to go head to head with a horsey person 😂
It is just simple, you can see the ears pinned back and you are teasing with the food.
More like when people turn ponies bad. :P My pony would never act like this b/c he has been trained well and he's only 4. I corrected his bad habits at 2yrs old. He knows that there are only two palces he is allowed to blow off steam with kicking and bucking and YEHAWing around. That is the pasture and the round pen, he can moter in circles around me all he wants.
Correct this horses behavior...
He may look cute... which he is... but if he was full on bucking you guys would've got hurt :(
Jean Bon You're right the people should be corrected here but that doesn't mean the horse gets to do whatever animals need corrections too
Many let their horses push them around, pin their ears at them and those are behaviors that if they're not corrected
You're gonna end up with a aggressive horse that was caused by humans who have no idea how to work with pressure and release.
And animals are always the victim
People need to learn how to work with pressure and release.
Jean Bon At the end the child ran away from the horse
Now the horse learned:
If l pin my ears and walk towards him he moves away and l'm higher.
First it's earpinning than it turns to biting and kicking and they need to know they can't do this to humans.
And only horsemen or horsewomen know how to correct that
Jean Bon You should correct during the moment wrong happens not later indeed.
Like for example if a horse pushes you push back immediately not 10 mins later.
But horses learn very fast if these guys did this more often it would become a habit
Marit it’s just a nice funny video, no need to go all internet instructor on them, they don’t even look horsey at all they were just feeding the cute ponies
Brodie Blair Look l get your point he is cute and these people are obviously ignorant when it comes to horses.
But there are so many cases where people get hurt around horses because they don't understand their body language.
This pony was feeling crowded and uncomfortable remember humans are predators for them this was a similar situation as dogs surrounding them.
He was bucking already if he kicked the child in the face most people would've put the horse to sleep
The boy wanted to give the horse a treat which is cute but than he ran away and the horse was dominating the young child by pinning his ears and pushing.
Now if that would've continued eventually the pony would've started bucking or striking or biting and than people will say:
This horse is dangerous it's needs to be put down.
And than again the horse is the victim of human ignorance l honestly don't find that so entertaining ..
I don't like seeing animals or people get hurt.
Yes they are a cute family
But it's not wrong to teach others something new.
for 1: that little boy was jumping about like a mad man next to him, for 2 you all started screaming and for 3 you were all surrounding him. feed a horse no more than 2 treats at a time, i only give mine 3 a day;one in the morning one after hes been lunged or ridden and one before i go home that teaches bad manners to the horse and i dont blame it for doing what it did
It wouldn't have been such an issue having the jumpy kid there if there wasn't a lot of people around the pony. The pony probably just reacted to the jumping around because he was hemmed in, so he went to fight since flight wasn't an available option.
Correct. I was fortunate to have horsey parents so they taught me how to behave around horses and other animals from a young age. You see this sort of thing happen whenever parents don't control or teach their children how to behave around animals. If you go to a place with a lot of horses, you and your children need to learn what is appropriate. Horses are prey animals and they get scared easily because that's how they have had to survive in the wild.
It's a wild pony, which you're not supposed to feed. This also explains it's defensive behaviour.
You have created a treat monster! Treat him like a pony not a spoiled child.....that behavious will hurt someone and no one will be laughing then!
That pony is definitely the boss
That 'tiny Shetland pony' probably weighs over 300 pounds. Apparently you've never been kicked by an equine. They have these very sharp, hard feet called 'hooves'.
Do people not realise that this is a wild Shetland pony, from the new forest?
Everyone keeps talking of these people correcting their ponies behaviour and learning to treat their horse's better, or whatever. But, guess what, it's not their pony! It's a wild pony! It doesn't know any better or any other way to act! If it were their pony, this would never have happened as they would see the signs and body language the pony was showing and know how to react to it themselves
When the pony wants your treat, but not you.
The Abaco Spanish Colonial horses are completely feral, but they can be fed by hand.
Always correct bad behavior! Some ppl think they are cute babies. Yes, they are cute. Tiny. But believe me.... they can hurt you in a heart beat and that kind of out look on a mini will get you hurt fast. I look at our 2yr old mini as a full size horse bc his attitude isn't always cute or tiny. Lol! I love him still 😍😍😍😍😍😍! Always!
Like other people have said, it's the kid bouncing around. It probably annoyed/frightened her.
Yeah, some horses tend to get nippy for more treats, because they expect treat after treat, they get used to it though.
LOl That horse wasnt because everyone was surrounding him. The horse felt paranoid about that little kid jumping around like an idiot!
This looks exactly like my Shetland pony honey!!!!!!!!!!!
The boy is jumping at his side, so don't blame the pony, it's in defense.
That person behind the pony jumping about spooked the Shetland pony x
The Kid was jumping around and waving his arms , which startled the pony and made him want to buck
Ponies don't turn bad... It is their natural state.
Just because they are little, doesn't mean that don't have a mean kick. I was kicked right square in the mouth by one of my mini's. (I have been a miniature horse owner for 12 years now.)
thank god someone understands horses here! haha!
That pony was just behaving like in the wild. Either I push your feet around or you push mine so when you run away he thinks he's more dominant so he gets annoyed when you don't follow. Simple.
well yeah.. they are, for all intent and purposes, wild horses and that's the reason theres signs throughout the forest telling people not to feed them lol
And when he was asked what did you do, he said nothing. he said nothing, which she just accepted. He may have been oblivious to the fact that pratting about at a pony's rear end is not wise, rather than out and out lying, but let's hope that when they looked at the video later she was able learn something and to make sure all the children did too.
Here's a better title for this video: "When ignorant humans who have no business being around horses or ponies do the exact opposite of how you should act when you are near these creatures." To blame this Shetland pony for its behavior is ridiculous. The child that was jumping and jerking was out of control. They are very lucky he didn't get a hoof in the head. He could have been seriously injured.
@StyleMisser btw, having an account on Horse Isle doesnt mean you know it all about horses. We're talking real flesh and blood horses here, not computer generated game horses. the two are vastly different.
What's really interesting to me anyway is that this little mare is the boss of that whole group of horses. Watch as the chestnut follows toward the end. Head down and following. Submissive posture. No other horses asking for food from these people while she's present.
There is no sign of fear in this pony at all at any point. Nor is she out of control or agressive. All her behavior is natural in relation to the human behavior around her. She is claiming the space, since no-one else is, and telling the boy to back off when he gets uncomfortably close to her and behaves like he is trying to clame the space from her and challenge her position as the established boss now. Since everyone backs off from her it reinforces the idea in her mind that she is in charge and these creatures are lower in the rung than her. They are rewarding her for this behavior by giving her treats. She is not "bad" in any way. These people can get pushed over, trampled, or nipped at. Totally their own fault. People are not obligated to train their equines to bow down to every clueless person who happens to enter the paddock. She can't take any "good behavior" cues from these people, since they are encouraging her (with their own behavior) to do exactly what she is doing.
You are completely right.....horse the reflection of the people around it
Semmostahauskaa Exactly!!! They are crowding her, a boy is jumping like a pogo stick behind her (BAD IDEA) and she delivers a surprisingly agile 360 kick! She is driving the girl like she would drive a subordinate herd member. And what do they do? Feed her candy which is reinforcing her behavior AND since it's full of sugar it's increasing her energy level. I had the job of moving a slightly bigger pony than this from the round pen to a paddock full of grass. She knew the drill. But she wanted to dominate me by shoving me off the path! So I gave her an elbow to the side of the neck and reclaimed my space. She tried it once more with the same results. I had "kicked" her like another horse would. She got it. We had no more trouble.
Wenn ich da gewesen wäre hätte das Ding sich aber ganz schön eine gefangen! :D
The pony had the boy isolated, and probably would have attacked, had not the big mare stepped in.
You shouldn't run away from a horse when it's pinning its ears at you or trying to bite you. The horse is learning if it does that to people they run away and leave them alone and think they are in charge. Instead you should of turned to that horse not backed away and made the pony back away. You should be in charge. If you've ridden horses since you was 5 you should already know this. On of the most important things when around horses. I understand not being able to do do that when you was 5 but when your about 10 you can. I'm 12 and volunteer at my riding school and have been riding and around horses for a little over 3 years and already know this and not afraid to do it. Your feeding it and it's getting real close to you which means he thinks he's boss and he's asking for treats and gets what he wants. Unbelievable.
It‘s the boy. He made the horse „bad“
Take my opinion or leave it, but from a few seconds in he was asking for space- whether his body language was aggressive or not. And although there could have been several things bothering the little guy I noticed the most prominent one was the kid jumping about behind him!! My horse is getting on now, and has practically seen it all, bombproof, but even he would get a little frisky at someone leaping about behind him! This is not hate!!!No crit please, spreading my opinion, just like we are all entitled to do!
XD he wasn't "scared little pony" He's a little bad ass look at him! Sticks his nose in their face, pins his ears and says "Bitches...feed me...or else" and of course they feed him so he learns being aggressive works! When the boy started jumping around it was like a baby foal playing, it irritated him and he went "You there!! Quit now or I'll kick you!!" All these people standing there were his herd, his bitches, and he was the all knowing lead stallion that calls the shots or else. XD