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@@shunuuu Dowel joints are a solid construction for sure, this video just shows a slightly complicated way of making them. I actually like it though, there are contexts where some of these methods could make things quicker and easier, it just depends on the individual and their work style and the materials/tools available. The criticisms all over the comments are totally valid, for sure, but for someone who's not very skilled yet or doesn't have much equipment, this is a totally fine somewhat assisted way to learn and make a practice project. Carpentry people in youtube comments are prone to being super snobby lol but it's whatever. Getting uptight about harmless experiments with creating harmless things is a waste of their energy anyway, and heeding their uptightness is a waste of energy too (except where safety is concerned ofc).
@@shunuuu Probably nothing more than what a few nails can do. Also depends on the use. For a house absolutely do not do this! For a work bench it works and will be sturdy but its a work bench, it doesn't need to be pretty. I have never seen a workbench that used screws or nails to break. All it did was make a task take 10 times longer lol
@@drrgrr4886 so wouldn't you think that would weaken certain parts of the wood maybe even with that much glue? He seemed to drill about 2 sizes too big for those dowels lol
@@kratos7893 those rods he inserted create much greater structural support. But everything about how he did this was wrong. A cheap dowel jig costs maybe $15 and turns this into a 10 second job
@@modelwhhyyy this is definately not how I do a dowelled mitre joint. I'm pretty sure I've demonstrated both concealed and exposed versions in some of my videos. This joint hasn't been clamped so the glue line will be very thick which is ok with epoxy but not with PVA and he's mixing glue chemistries which is never a good idea
Step one: Finish carpentry school Step two: Practice for 4 years during school Step three: Work for over 7 years in carpentry Step four: Feel suicidal after videos like this Step five: Regret
You learn on the job while you’re an apprentice. You attend college for a 4 to 6 weeks, then work for 4 to 6 weeks and you alternate between the two for the first 2 years. Then you’re working all of your 3rd year and go back to college for your final skill test at the end of your 4th year.
Just use the aliphatic resin in the joint, not the CA and kicker as well, and use a proper dowel drilling jig so the holes actually line up to each other
Nah dude. That shit’s gonna be hella sturdy. I had this wood shop teacher back in middle school who had been making some real fancy table sets for 55 years. It’s the same shit. Weird ass yellow glue that can easily be sanded down. Extra dowels that feel unnecessary. But without them the only keeping that together would be the glue, so it’s actually legit important. Unfortunately you can’t just slap some wood and expect it’ll last
That’s the point of learning how to make joints because you don’t need screws and it’s more visually attractive than screws but yes this was an over complicated joint. There was no need for so many different types of glue when wood glue works wonders by itself. It’s definitely an internet woodworking “tip”.
That is a lot of blowout and a sloppy fit for the dowels but keep it up, you'll get there! Next time use a wood backer instead of tape, it will give more support and help to avoid blowout.
That gives a nice finish to a wood project. Only problem I have is the method for drilling. You can see there are not aligned. Kregg makes a jig to get perfectly aligned every time.
Надо вместо деревяшек химический анкер использовать, потом использовать металлические уголки и проверить все намертво, чтож остановился то на ПВА клее, супер клее с отвердителем
I'm not so sure about that. The lack of glue in the holes resulted in an unglued dowel on the opposite side. The glue should not be applied to the dowel, but into the hole instead.
Few people have any idea how much equipment is typically used to accomplish the same result: clamps, jigs, miter box, fancy saws… This was a performance piece. He did it because he was able where no one else was before. Capiche?
The glue is actually plenty strong, adding supports doesn't increase the strength that much, as the glue won't fail, the wood behind the glue will fail at the same rate as the added supports. Unless, of course, the wood used are strong wood.
You can tell it's a content farm when the only clean shot is putting perfect stripes of different colored glues for purely aesthetic reasons while all the actual project is pure chaos
@@adolfshitler That is a fair assumption. I have done it to a lot of people. Believe it or not I get out quite often. The sad part is I also correct people in person as well.
I have worked at a cabinet maker company and they never used this kind of joints with these weird sticks, they just had the right glue... I thought it was effervescent pu glue from bison. Once i tested this kind of construction when the glue was hardened, tried to break it at the glue connection.... Didn't work cause glue was stronger then the wood. Tested this with oak, birch and mdf
Question, what is the clear fluid you applied after the wood glue? Also, wouldn't having a "KREG" drilling guide kit be easier for beginners than freehanding? The kits less than $10.00
@@AY-tv4gw Cuz Italian furniture is crap. Beautiful most of the time, but huge piece of crap that break in a few months.... It's well known where I live that you should never buy Italian furniture...
Love this but next time instead of use it super glue to how the scrap corner piece on use painted tape on both side with super glue in middle holds extremely well and leaves no mark
What was the 2nd part of the glue-up? Like it's glue streaks, then some kind of oily substance, (resin?) and then hit with activator before mashing together. What is the oily?
Хобби
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This dude just used like 6 different types of glue for one joint.
Wood glue for long term hold and superglue for immediate hold so he can keep working on it
Did he also use mayonnaise? Looked like
@@Kevin-bl6lg yes mayonnaise is trick of the trade
@@feyrband Wood glue and some nails would work just fine.
And that wood was either polished or already glued.
Tel me you learned carpentry off RUclips without telling me.
Yes
🤣🤣🤣 perfect
@@evanwalsh33 no. soy vieja escuela estos videos no enseñan nada
@@misaelastorga5120 I'm clearly replying to SansVarnic's comment and not the video, the video is ridiculously bad. Go bother someone else.
Lol 😂
Man that chick fil a sauce works wonders
I like how they made the butchered backside holes disappear and the tape didn't stop any splitting, the chips all just "vanished"
Also how the boards weren’t lined up when he initially glued them but they were a few seconds later.
I particularly liked how loose those dowels were in the holes.
i'm impressed how the super glue just vanished
@@mickenoss lo8
I’m sayin!
I love these videos, they’re always about how to do a task the most impractical way possible
These videos are a whole lot of palaver
But isn't this also more durable? Especially for when the wood expands or shrinks.
Yep but it's nice to see all the effort
@@shunuuu Dowel joints are a solid construction for sure, this video just shows a slightly complicated way of making them. I actually like it though, there are contexts where some of these methods could make things quicker and easier, it just depends on the individual and their work style and the materials/tools available. The criticisms all over the comments are totally valid, for sure, but for someone who's not very skilled yet or doesn't have much equipment, this is a totally fine somewhat assisted way to learn and make a practice project. Carpentry people in youtube comments are prone to being super snobby lol but it's whatever. Getting uptight about harmless experiments with creating harmless things is a waste of their energy anyway, and heeding their uptightness is a waste of energy too (except where safety is concerned ofc).
@@shunuuu Probably nothing more than what a few nails can do. Also depends on the use. For a house absolutely do not do this! For a work bench it works and will be sturdy but its a work bench, it doesn't need to be pretty. I have never seen a workbench that used screws or nails to break. All it did was make a task take 10 times longer lol
I have no professional wood working experience, but this was clearly making a simple task way too complicated..
Plus I would think this would weaken it, more than strengthening it.. maybe that's why he needed 2 pounds of glue 🤔 lol
I am a professional fine wood worker and this video hurts me inside.
@@drrgrr4886 so wouldn't you think that would weaken certain parts of the wood maybe even with that much glue? He seemed to drill about 2 sizes too big for those dowels lol
@@kratos7893 those rods he inserted create much greater structural support. But everything about how he did this was wrong. A cheap dowel jig costs maybe $15 and turns this into a 10 second job
Exactly
workmanship and about 3,000 years of cabinetmaking history have both left the chat
Все равно криво
@@EfelDuat , да нормально.
yeah like this isnt how you do a dowel joint.
@@modelwhhyyy this is definately not how I do a dowelled mitre joint. I'm pretty sure I've demonstrated both concealed and exposed versions in some of my videos. This joint hasn't been clamped so the glue line will be very thick which is ok with epoxy but not with PVA and he's mixing glue chemistries which is never a good idea
That's one way to do it. I don't think anyone would ever actually do it this way, but it's definitely a way to do it.
It's a way to do it poorly...
I liked how he used a wedge to drill holes at the same angle and they were all over the place at the end. 😂
Be d
That takes a very special effort.
Gotta get the kregg kit. The best!
Yep and they try and hide it by flipping the board when they take the tape off lol
But it works
Step one: Finish carpentry school
Step two: Practice for 4 years during school
Step three: Work for over 7 years in carpentry
Step four: Feel suicidal after videos like this
Step five: Regret
Lol
Ah yes. L o v e l y
@@TabbyCatq haha funny number shut up please
You learn on the job while you’re an apprentice.
You attend college for a 4 to 6 weeks, then work for 4 to 6 weeks and you alternate between the two for the first 2 years.
Then you’re working all of your 3rd year and go back to college for your final skill test at the end of your 4th year.
Me with the bad art and music tutorials:
Here's where I go into the comment section to see how I'm actually supposed to do it.
🤣🤣true
Just use the aliphatic resin in the joint, not the CA and kicker as well, and use a proper dowel drilling jig so the holes actually line up to each other
Yeah you're just never ever supposed to repeat this sort of youtibism, ever
@@Kington99 that being for visual aesthetic rather than strength, I assume
111q
Someone's grandpa didn't love them enough to show them how to properly use wood 😂
Gotta start somewhere… I just would have started somewhere else…..
Lol
Hilarious
Haha - Adding this one to the repertoire for sure. Cheers.
Lmao😂🤣😂🤣
😂👌😂😂😂
There’s a lot going on here….and a lot of it is no good.
If that's how long it takes to do joints he must finish like 2 tables a year. So much effort for little reward
Nah dude. That shit’s gonna be hella sturdy. I had this wood shop teacher back in middle school who had been making some real fancy table sets for 55 years. It’s the same shit. Weird ass yellow glue that can easily be sanded down. Extra dowels that feel unnecessary. But without them the only keeping that together would be the glue, so it’s actually legit important. Unfortunately you can’t just slap some wood and expect it’ll last
@@sammmmmp1455 Wood glue is a lot stronger than you think. The wood being held together would snap before the glue is pulled apart
@@xxspectralspoon4770 Yeah exactly. It’s not great for supporting all the wood. Just for what if makes contact with.
@@sammmmmp1455 the dowel joint does the exact same thing. It isn't going to support the wood any more than the glue will
After the blowout there are completely different boards lol
There’s this really cool invention called screws.
That’s the point of learning how to make joints because you don’t need screws and it’s more visually attractive than screws but yes this was an over complicated joint. There was no need for so many different types of glue when wood glue works wonders by itself. It’s definitely an internet woodworking “tip”.
@@ryanwilliamson4214 or you know there's wax, wood filter....collect the dust and superglue can also work as filler for all those screws holes. 🤷♂️
@@mentlegentlemen7409 l
Dowels are stronger. But to each their own. Personally, I would've made it a blind joint so you can't see the Dowels.
What a TV
"Honey! Where's our Mayonnaise and Chocolate?!"
"Ummmmmm idk"
Lmao underrated comment right there
Lmao
@@mrkarma2771 true
a lot of glue, you can smear it with a brush to save
WTF 😭😂
That is a lot of blowout and a sloppy fit for the dowels but keep it up, you'll get there! Next time use a wood backer instead of tape, it will give more support and help to avoid blowout.
Yeah, it's not surprising he didn't show the other side of the finished joint.
This is the kind of progressive and honest, yet wholesome comments I search RUclips for. Thank you sir
@@08vosebatistamax agree. This is rare. Haha
just use good glue and forget the dowels.
Finally a useful RUclips comment 👍
That gives a nice finish to a wood project. Only problem I have is the method for drilling. You can see there are not aligned. Kregg makes a jig to get perfectly aligned every time.
'lets apply stress to the joint, in a way that puts absolutely no stress on the joint'
“Slap a bunch of sh+t together and hope people think I know what I am doing.”
ALMOST LIKE ITS A JOKE????? HAHAH 😭😭💀
@@artvulture456 but its not???
@@swagjam1 well do you know if he spent 20 years for carpentry?
👍
@@Poptarts1234 what?????
Simply amazing how all that blowout from the drilling just disappeared.
I was looking for this comment! 👍👏
It most definitely didn’t disappear
The holes look like they went from crooked as hell to perfectly straight too
Ya he's like, uh let's just try this again
Also how the holes are not even aligned
If you need a jig to cut pocket holes, that's a skill issue ngl
perfeito! Parabéns pelo belo trabalho 👏👏👏👏
My grampa would literally unalive me if he saw me do this rest his soul. 😐
That's a pretty way to alternatively say 'murder' haha
@@adelalovesmadara4062 lol yeah
UNALIVE?! 🤣🤣🤣 I'm deceased~
@@yamivang so it's already happened to you, rest in piece
Bro talk about word selection. Iol
How to tell if someone is a beginner.
The person making the video is a beginner, but everyone in the comment section is an expert
then tell us how to do it better mr expert
@@myslef7636 kinda agree, the whole comment section is full of experts (self proclaimed expert)
@@myslef7636 with a kreg jig. There's literally a tool that does this
And he's using Makita
Надо вместо деревяшек химический анкер использовать, потом использовать металлические уголки и проверить все намертво, чтож остановился то на ПВА клее, супер клее с отвердителем
When you give 5 minute craft tools:
If this is the version he thought looked good, I’d hate to see the drafts.
You think there were drafts?
Why does no one understand this channel is a parody
@@PorcuDuckSlug EXACTLY
@@PorcuDuckSlug The fact that we don’t understand it’s parody means the creator is worse at comedy than he is at carpentry.
@@Rob-je6vx I think it’s pretty funny ngl, but it’s subjective. And the fact that it goes over so many peoples heads is actually even funnier imo
When you feel and believe from within the deepest depth of your own heart that there's no such thing as *"Too much Glue"*
@Deto Qcney How so? 🤔
Nice one 😂😂
I'm not so sure about that. The lack of glue in the holes resulted in an unglued dowel on the opposite side. The glue should not be applied to the dowel, but into the hole instead.
@@toragon2736 look
@@jasonrubik EXACTLY!!
That instrumental fire
I'm looking for names
@@Jjuliannnn you just like me fr
I'll stick to the original way, took a 3 minute project and turned into a 30 minute one
"How shitty you want it???"
"Yes"....
🤣💀
🤣🤣🤣
So how much glue you want to use?
Them: *Yes*
電動工具にマキタを使ってくれて
ありがとう😊
The CA glue actually weakens the joint I believe as it reduces the area the wood glue has to adhere to
Mmm no. It's perfectly fine
I thought this was “5 minute crafts” but now I see, it is the same.
No it's one of their sub channels called, "5 min Trash"! 😂😂
The joint changes right before he peels the tape.
Good catch.
Yes, the tape also: befor, the upper tape was under the middle one; after, the upper is above.
His blowouts disappeared also
"Cutting corners" ....😂 It's definitely not square.
Good eye!
The music timed perfectly to the different parts of the process were impressive. Ex. When the hammer tap lined up with the music double beat
What is the name of the music?
Uma dica, passa um pouco de cola dentro do buraco primeiro, assim a cavilha não sai sem cola do outro lado, e a cola não fica tudo pra fora.
The nail maker be like :
"who need easy work when u can burden yourself"
Wooden dowels are used a lot more than you would think and before modern manufacturing nails were rarely used at all.
@@Kingdomkey123678 bro used 4 different kinds of glue
You know just as much carpentry as the guy in the video if you think nails are an answer
@@Kingdomkey123678 wooden nails are ancient technology, and even then wasnt the norm joints made mostly by friction
日本にはもっと素晴らしい継手方法があります👍
you've either switched pieces or reversed them - grain pattern is different halfway through
Всегда делаю на саморезы 🤣
Да ус и наклею мощно держится.
That’s what we call a “Botch job”!!!
I’ve never seen a dowel go through so easily in my life.
I have... when you use the wrong size drill bit... (too big)
Yup dowels loose af
9/16 drill bit with a 1/2 dowel😂
All of this work was done over the reference piece which had splines and looks perfect!
There is already slack in the joint from the beginning, and later on as well with the 3 holes, they are drilled too big. Or the dovels are too little
The wood glue is stronger than the wood itself. It'll be fine
@@woodworkingandepoxy0221 the pegs don’t even fit
This was painful, you ever heard of a clamp 😂
Clamps are expensive.
C A glue is so much cheaper
(He says I’m a sarcastic voice)
Haha clamps are king 😂
@@codyw5799 Clamps aren't that expensive when you factor how long they'll last and how many jobs they'll do.
@@Lateralus138 he literally said he was being sarcastic IN his comment.... 🤨🤦♀️🤣🤣
@@LivinInProllywood that wasn't there before.
You took a really simple task and made it complicated, good job! Not
Yea people keep complaining about how it looks. Dude could have skipped 90% of this to do the same thing but better with screws ffs.
so neat and strong without screws or nails
Bro this isn't supposed to be this much satisfying...
改めて「木組み」ってすごいと思った
Что толку приклеивать кондуктор если все отверстия криво просверленны ))))
Ага умник вообще. Там без кондуктора можно ровнее было. Дыры разворотил.
Шип паз намного надёднее и эстетичнее!
ACwood_minsk, посоветуйте, плииз, клей для гитары. Головка грифа отломилась. Классика.
@@nickbalashov1780 пва брендовый или пур если экзотика
А прозрачный это суперклей?
It works, but you could've drilled from the inside for the dowel joint holes, so that they aren't visible from the outside (a blind joint)
Few people have any idea how much equipment is typically used to accomplish the same result: clamps, jigs, miter box, fancy saws…
This was a performance piece. He did it because he was able where no one else was before. Capiche?
こういうの見ると日本の組木がどれほどすごいかわかる
“Hmmm shall I do it again? No they won’t know, I’ll just obscure the side slightly”
The glue is actually plenty strong, adding supports doesn't increase the strength that much, as the glue won't fail, the wood behind the glue will fail at the same rate as the added supports.
Unless, of course, the wood used are strong wood.
You can tell it's a content farm when the only clean shot is putting perfect stripes of different colored glues for purely aesthetic reasons while all the actual project is pure chaos
Ah yes I love how the drill holes were blown out one scene then perfect the next
10-4!
the whole thing is just Nasty
Wow! This tutorial helped me sm! Now I have a husband and a family because of this short. Thanks youtube shorts!! [as]
That "guide" really helped.
Look at that craftsmanship!!! Just like Jesus!! 😊
The beat 🔥🔥🔥🔥
🔥🔥
I admire how the sound of the drill is in tune and in beat with the background music
Do you know the who and what on the background music. I'm intrigued!
Looking for the music too
Someone found it "Those Cold Nights" by Cushy.
This is called semantics. None of those extra steps were necessary. But it was lovely to watch
Without using nails wood work is really amazing
Best part of the video the music
Even that's a bit of a stretch for this one.
これより日本古来の
「ほぞ加工」は優れているね！
For me it’s all about the insertion!
接着剤がマヨネーズにしか見えなかった奴挙手🤚
there's something there about mayonnaise...
И творческий, и интеллектуальный подход! 100👍
And suddenly the gap closed up from one scene to the next in an instance!
I think you mean in an instant. InstanCE is an occurrence or an example.
@@franksmythe6969
Oh F me, the grammar police are here 🙄🙄🙄
@@adolfshitler Well I was going to let you off with a warning. Now you're getting a ticket for indecent spelling.
@@franksmythe6969
Wonder how many more people you've done this too. You need to get out more!
@@adolfshitler That is a fair assumption. I have done it to a lot of people. Believe it or not I get out quite often. The sad part is I also correct people in person as well.
A useful corner dowel kit costs less than $40 US. And it lets you drill straight holes that you don't have to fill around.
Put tape on the bottom of the wedge and the work piece, then superglue them together, It's a lot easier to remove and won't damage the workpiece
That contact glue for temp jig easy could have been done with clamps.
Common screw easily available everywhere: " what am i, nothing to you?!"
It's nice to see this, it would better with a voice describing what's going on
I have worked at a cabinet maker company and they never used this kind of joints with these weird sticks, they just had the right glue... I thought it was effervescent pu glue from bison. Once i tested this kind of construction when the glue was hardened, tried to break it at the glue connection.... Didn't work cause glue was stronger then the wood. Tested this with oak, birch and mdf
А трудно было клей в отверстия капнуть, прежде чем штифты вставлять?
Нужно упрощать а не мудрить. Можно было по два прямых просверлить в досках и штапиками соединить. Даже клея не нужно.
Усложнил и выходные отверстия кривые.
А они ещё и болтаются
did this and my house caved in, i was putting a fence together
My friend: what are you making?
Me: strong wood
With all of those, you'll think that he'll be able to make it perfectly aligned. 🤣
I would put all that glue in his eyes so he could never do this again
😂🤣😂🤣
**spits out water** 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Looks like crap
Coming from you, I wouldn’t take that as an insult…
Clamps are expensive.
C A glue is so much cheaper…..
(He says in a sarcastic voice)
Good work, keep it up 👍
I was going to say looks like shit.
🤣👍
You are one of the best carpenter
Question, what is the clear fluid you applied after the wood glue?
Also, wouldn't having a "KREG" drilling guide kit be easier for beginners than freehanding? The kits less than $10.00
Functional, but ugly
Yup he should have used same wood hook or make hidden ones
@@ebm896 some people like contrast/accents in their joints
@@feyrband go to any furniture brand name site and see if tere is any accent or these kind of wood work in there line up " Italian brands"
@@ebm896 why should he change his mind because of "Italian brands"? Looks like you're the kind of person who follows the crowd.
@@AY-tv4gw Cuz Italian furniture is crap. Beautiful most of the time, but huge piece of crap that break in a few months....
It's well known where I live that you should never buy Italian furniture...
This is what I call perfect EDIT.
The dramatic music made it all come together.
Love this but next time instead of use it super glue to how the scrap corner piece on use painted tape on both side with super glue in middle holds extremely well and leaves no mark
Тяп-ляп и соединил 🤣
Всё криво и неэстетично, руки бы ему кирпичом придавить
250 полуляхов.
А начиналось так красиво ..🙂
Can we talk abt the music in the background tho 🔥 that drop was unexpected
Yeah I thought the same. Woodwork was 💩, music was 🔥
What is this song?
I don't know anything about carpentry but it seems like he made things a lot more difficult than they had to be
The synth hit just right.
日本の宮大工の技術を見せつけてやりたいぜ
그렇게 손 많이 안가도 할 수있는데 넘 사전작업 많네...그럴 난이도도 아닌데...
What was the 2nd part of the glue-up? Like it's glue streaks, then some kind of oily substance, (resin?) and then hit with activator before mashing together. What is the oily?
Welders seeing that first fit-up : "ah..yes"