I couldn't believe it was Drew's directorial debut. I loved the converging storylines and inclusion of John Cooper Clarke's poetry highlighting the artistic parallels with Plan B's verses not considered art as such.
I agree... I'd seen many crime films before, notably Scorsese's but never anything like what Ben Drew brought to the screen. There's always room for a new take on the genre.
The film has definitely resonated with members of the community. The way Plan B cuts to the heart of social problems makes Ill Manors a very important release. Nearly a decade after its release, I wonder if any progress has been made in helping people.
Fairly sure this was Drew's big passion project, he's unlikely to make anything like it again. If you're looking for something similar, I highly recommend Blue Story by Rapman. In a lot of ways, it's almost a spiritual successor to Ill Manors and tackles similar themes of crime and poverty in London. It cooked up some controversy but is still an involving production.
As far as UK crime films go, they're definitely the best when it comes to the more serious entries in the genre. They shed a lot of light on the downtrodden in society.
Living in a pretty shitty area myself this film hits pretty hard but gives me hope that more people like Ben may challenge the system. A lot of things he says about his experience growing up resonates but luckily for me, my parents moved to Scotland when I was 8 and I returned when I was 15. Having missed a lot of the traumatic shit I probably would have witnessed growing up, I'd already seen people being beaten to a pulp for drug debts, I did have to grow up fast when I came back here but having that experience of a stable upbringing I could see paths to less resistance from the people who wanted to do me harm. I dressed like them, spoke like them and surrounded myself with others like them so I could try and make something of myself without them noticing. Get out before they woke up kinda thing. I'm much more isolated now I'm out of school but I'm also 4 out of 5 years through a bachelors honour and working as hard as I can to get out of here. What worries me now more than the youth who I was much smaller than growing up is the more random attacks and people trying to cause shit. I'm now dealing with 30+ year old coke heads and stepping over drunks outside the local shop. The kids get their kicks from stoning the buses and smashing glass bottles left behind by the drunks. All the parks are closed "due to COVID" although they never lasted long before the pandemic and we are left with 2 bus routes out of the estate, the town centre where we are to spend our money and the hospital for when the drugs and alcohol start hurting us or we are attacked. It's clear we are meant to be seen but not heard but we don't tell this to the people trying to escape some of the most desolate areas of the world, only to be dropped on a council estate with no support around them, no jobs close to home and nothing for their children to do other than get consumed in social media. I'm so glad I grew up when and how I did, the youth of today that are living in poverty have it so rough. Its not that we aren't surviving here but that we are just existing at this point and without a goal and a plan to succeed, these people aren't living. Thanks for sharing this mate, this film needs some more recognition as it truly is the most accurate depiction of the situation on the streets. Very well presented and concise video man!
Thank you very much for your kind words and for sharing your story. I wish you all the best for your bachelors. I agree that Ill Manors doesn't often get the attention it should. For many large problems in the community, raising awareness is often the first step to creating change. You've shown that if these issues go unaddressed, it only leads to greater suffering and social decay. The vicious cycle needs to end, but it won't be going anywhere if the talk of "levelling-up" doesn't translate into real action.
This is the British urban street movie ever made,,,its very very realistic and historically correct ,, better than top boy and that is some brilliant shit too
Couldn’t agree more watched it on a lim one day and since then I’ve always said it’s one of my favourite films shame it’s so hard to find on streaming apps Netflix or something should definitely grab this up
It really does deserve a lot more attention, alongside the more recent Blue Story. Both Plan B and Rapman have experienced real issues first hand and offer a window into lives most will never see. I think it may be overlooked by streaming platforms for its smaller scale and potentially contentious subject matter. Blue Story did cook up some controversy on release and some UK theatres pulled it from screening.
This film was only released outside of the uk in film festival’s, I wonder if the fact it goes against what they want people to perceive about Britain and part of a culture that they’d rather hide
Possibly... the film does show a side of Britain that we're certainly not proud of. The way Plan B created a window into the downtrodden of society is very revealing.
This should be shown in schools and colleges around the uk very realistic and accurate movie. I'm very proud to see uk movies like this being made. I really hope this movie is now shown through out all primary schools secondary schools and colleges in the uk. It seriously need to be shown
Appropriate ages allowing of course, I would agree. Ill Manors offers a sobering reality that most of us rarely see. How gang culture spreads and why young people find themselves committing brutal crimes. Seeing how Plan B grew up in that environment himself, he knows exactly how that side of society works.
True, Ill Manors is a pretty rare release. With its small scale and budget, it could never reach beyond a limited run in theatres. Still, I recommend it to audiences over there if they can find it.
I first saw it on YT in 2013. I fell asleep on it but my subconscious heard everything that was going on in the movie and as soon as I woke up the next day I actually watched the movie. Definitely my favorite urban UK movie.
Many thanks, glad you enjoyed the video. Another similar film I highly recommend is Blue Story by Rapman. It talks about the violent and pointless cycle of gang crime. In many ways it feels like a worthy successor to Ill Manors.
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One of if not the most underrated uk films ever made.
I absoultely love the movie very very accurately done
I couldn't believe it was Drew's directorial debut. I loved the converging storylines and inclusion of John Cooper Clarke's poetry highlighting the artistic parallels with Plan B's verses not considered art as such.
I agree... I'd seen many crime films before, notably Scorsese's but never anything like what Ben Drew brought to the screen. There's always room for a new take on the genre.
It is tough, gritty and astoundingly realistic . I was knocking about on this manor where its set and it's on point .
The film has definitely resonated with members of the community. The way Plan B cuts to the heart of social problems makes Ill Manors a very important release. Nearly a decade after its release, I wonder if any progress has been made in helping people.
It's a crime that Ben Drew hasn't directed a movie since. Got to be one of the best movies I have ever seen.
Fairly sure this was Drew's big passion project, he's unlikely to make anything like it again. If you're looking for something similar, I highly recommend Blue Story by Rapman.
In a lot of ways, it's almost a spiritual successor to Ill Manors and tackles similar themes of crime and poverty in London. It cooked up some controversy but is still an involving production.
This and trainspotting are the best crime/drug films ever made
As far as UK crime films go, they're definitely the best when it comes to the more serious entries in the genre. They shed a lot of light on the downtrodden in society.
Living in a pretty shitty area myself this film hits pretty hard but gives me hope that more people like Ben may challenge the system. A lot of things he says about his experience growing up resonates but luckily for me, my parents moved to Scotland when I was 8 and I returned when I was 15. Having missed a lot of the traumatic shit I probably would have witnessed growing up, I'd already seen people being beaten to a pulp for drug debts, I did have to grow up fast when I came back here but having that experience of a stable upbringing I could see paths to less resistance from the people who wanted to do me harm. I dressed like them, spoke like them and surrounded myself with others like them so I could try and make something of myself without them noticing. Get out before they woke up kinda thing. I'm much more isolated now I'm out of school but I'm also 4 out of 5 years through a bachelors honour and working as hard as I can to get out of here. What worries me now more than the youth who I was much smaller than growing up is the more random attacks and people trying to cause shit. I'm now dealing with 30+ year old coke heads and stepping over drunks outside the local shop. The kids get their kicks from stoning the buses and smashing glass bottles left behind by the drunks. All the parks are closed "due to COVID" although they never lasted long before the pandemic and we are left with 2 bus routes out of the estate, the town centre where we are to spend our money and the hospital for when the drugs and alcohol start hurting us or we are attacked. It's clear we are meant to be seen but not heard but we don't tell this to the people trying to escape some of the most desolate areas of the world, only to be dropped on a council estate with no support around them, no jobs close to home and nothing for their children to do other than get consumed in social media. I'm so glad I grew up when and how I did, the youth of today that are living in poverty have it so rough. Its not that we aren't surviving here but that we are just existing at this point and without a goal and a plan to succeed, these people aren't living. Thanks for sharing this mate, this film needs some more recognition as it truly is the most accurate depiction of the situation on the streets. Very well presented and concise video man!
Thank you very much for your kind words and for sharing your story. I wish you all the best for your bachelors. I agree that Ill Manors doesn't often get the attention it should. For many large problems in the community, raising awareness is often the first step to creating change. You've shown that if these issues go unaddressed, it only leads to greater suffering and social decay. The vicious cycle needs to end, but it won't be going anywhere if the talk of "levelling-up" doesn't translate into real action.
@@CainageCritique Couldn't have said it better myself take care mate!
This is the British urban street movie ever made,,,its very very realistic and historically correct ,, better than top boy and that is some brilliant shit too
Never seen Top Boy myself, reckon I'll check it out.
@@CainageCritique top boy is on point mate trust me you will enjoy it as it's on the same serious side as I'll manors
Couldn’t agree more watched it on a lim one day and since then I’ve always said it’s one of my favourite films shame it’s so hard to find on streaming apps Netflix or something should definitely grab this up
It really does deserve a lot more attention, alongside the more recent Blue Story. Both Plan B and Rapman have experienced real issues first hand and offer a window into lives most will never see.
I think it may be overlooked by streaming platforms for its smaller scale and potentially contentious subject matter. Blue Story did cook up some controversy on release and some UK theatres pulled it from screening.
This film was only released outside of the uk in film festival’s, I wonder if the fact it goes against what they want people to perceive about Britain and part of a culture that they’d rather hide
Possibly... the film does show a side of Britain that we're certainly not proud of. The way Plan B created a window into the downtrodden of society is very revealing.
This should be shown in schools and colleges around the uk very realistic and accurate movie. I'm very proud to see uk movies like this being made. I really hope this movie is now shown through out all primary schools secondary schools and colleges in the uk. It seriously need to be shown
Appropriate ages allowing of course, I would agree. Ill Manors offers a sobering reality that most of us rarely see. How gang culture spreads and why young people find themselves committing brutal crimes. Seeing how Plan B grew up in that environment himself, he knows exactly how that side of society works.
A shame you can no longer buy it in the UK as it's banned.
Mate I been wondering why I can't find it for like a whole year I check the TV mag hoping it be on TV
Sad fact is most Americans will never see this master piece.
True, Ill Manors is a pretty rare release. With its small scale and budget, it could never reach beyond a limited run in theatres. Still, I recommend it to audiences over there if they can find it.
I first saw it on YT in 2013. I fell asleep on it but my subconscious heard everything that was going on in the movie and as soon as I woke up the next day I actually watched the movie. Definitely my favorite urban UK movie.
totally agree with you. this movie so underrated
Many thanks, glad you enjoyed the video.
Another similar film I highly recommend is Blue Story by Rapman. It talks about the violent and pointless cycle of gang crime. In many ways it feels like a worthy successor to Ill Manors.
One of best films.....and I know, it is very realistic, trust me
I watched it today it was cool but could be better in some aspects it reminded me of Top Boy a little bit
A massively underrated film, you are pulled in by every character ark in the film. It also has an amazing soundtrack.