I've had my Stag for about 5 years now and she never stops putting a smile on my face. Someone asked if I had a good sound system in her and I said yes, it's called the engine (it does have a radio, but I turned it on once, too see if it works and it's never been on since). Really good review lads, I thoroughly enjoyed watching it.
That is a awsome story about a radio that was obsolete because it was in a great car. Thanks for your comment and compliment. We will have new videos soon. Have a good one 👍🙌
Well done guys, a fresh approach to reviewing the Stag. It's funny, for a car that had such a bad reputation for reliability and quality in its day it now stands as one of the most popular classic cars of any era. And that is because of all the characteristics you have captured so well in your review. I have had mine for 11 years and I can tell you it still puts a smile on my face every time I drive it, whether to the shops or on really long tours. It's like a good wine, it gets better with age and it travels well!
Thanks for the comment . We loved the stag, the styling ,the v8 and the ride. And the name ,you can drive a jaaaaggg but the brits also have the staaaggg. Have a good one and lots of lovely miles in your stag🙌
Glad you really enjoyed the Triumph Stag. I purchased my Triumph Stag brand new in 1973 and it has been 100% reliable and has survived the test of time. As an historic vehicle it benefits from free road tax and low insurance (50gbp per year). It has more personality than my R230 Mercedes which it will outlast. All the best.
Excellent review guys.. I think the fact that there are still so many Stags on the road and being driven tells you all you need to know about this car. Without doubt the best looking BL car made. Oh and that Stag V8 burble.. Outstanding.
My first thought was how similar it is to some old American cars which you pointed out at 2:35 I’d love to drive that on a trip to Normandy. Just gotta get over that pond between here and there… Another great one!
Hi :-) That was a great video. One of my favourite cars, though maybe not to own. I love the way Vincent looks sceptical about it to begin with, then slowly grows to love it. We had a Triumph 2000 when I was a lad; similar in some ways but less sporty, at least in appearance. It had a straight six, and that really sang when you asked it to. Thanks for the video :-)
@@dutchcarguys I forgot: when you were saying the gear shift was a bit weird... I had two Spitfires (also beautifully shaped by Michelotti :-) ). The first was 4 speed and no overdrive; gear shift was great. Second had overdrive and the shift was sloppy. I was told it was because it had extra long remote linkage to reach over the overdrive unit. Don't know whether that applies to the Stag... Bests, Tim
Interesting that this car was featured in the last episode of The Grand Tour that just recently aired. Maybe they were inspired by your video to include it. I’m still looking forward to your next video guys!
I hope james watched our episode and got inspired. Would be a dream if one of them sees our videos. But we got some more in the works. Have a good one and thanks for the comment 👍💪
ha ha you guys are funny. I like how much you like the car. I'm glad you got a good one to drive. When they are that old, sometimes things can be messed up and not work so well. A couple of comments - you mentioned the modified cooling system with the electric water pump. But it appears to me that the original carburetors have been replaced with something different as well. Maybe that's a good thing? Opinions vary. But it must be a good thing because you liked it. Also - the steering wheel, that is not a stock steering wheel. It is much smaller diameter. The ones from 70 -72 were HUGE. But even the later ones were not as small a diameter as the one on that car. But again - a small steering wheel is probably a good thing because typically the power steering is very over boosted. So a smaller steering wheel should still be quite easy to turn, even if the modern tires are wider. All in all a great video. Loved how much you guys liked it. (I'm sure you'd get used to the 4 speed transmission shifter in a short time.)
It has a set of holey carbs on it man And the steering wheel I need to check with the owners. But it is a nice example of a stag man body is original engine been sorted as well as the rest. Thanks for your comment man. Have a good one 💪
I am going to correct you about the Triumph/Rover V8 issue. The Rover at the time was only available with an automatic. thus it was not considered suitable for the sports tourer. The Triumph engine was actually a far more modern design with OHCs. The wheels are from a mini cooper?
Spen King, and other guys who worked at Rover/Triumph/BL have said that they wouldn't have produced enough Rover V8s and Triumph already had this well on the way, it didn't occur to them to not use it. - and it's not a bad engine - more revvy / sporty characteristic as standard. Just needed the right coolant and a header tank.
The triumph 3.0 v8 is good enough with the correct maintenance.. mine never goes beyond halfway on the temp gauge. As much as I love the rover v8 engine soon as you put one into a stag you’ve ruined it. Needs to stay as a TV8 plus it’s one of the best sounding v8s around!
Yes, you're right, it's one of the most beautiful, elegant British cars ever made. And so distinctive. Michelotti got the interior and exterior design perfect from every angle, just as he did with the TR4/4A/5/250 and you're right again most new cars on the roads today are so boring and dull, especially electric cars which all look the same and don't make that beautiful V8 burble. BTW the reason Triumph kept the indicator sounds so quiet is so that it doesn't distract from the beautiful sound of that V8 exhaust :) Nice original condition and color, the only points I would disagree with are your wheels and steering wheel. The originals look better. Those rims were made for minis and IMHO don't look right on the Stag. Again, Triumph got it perfect with the original alloys which were designed for that car and the 2500S. IMO the only non-standard steering wheel that looks okay in a Stag is a Moto-Lita. You can even get the s/wheel boss with the Stag logo.
great video. The engines got a bad reputation, as you said, for overheating. There are a few reasons why: the water pump sits high in the V of the engine. if there is a lack of water the pump would no longer distribute the water around the engine. There are after market header tanks to avoid that issue. People used to fill up the radiators with plain water and not coolant. the coolant has rust and oxydation inhibitors. the engine block is iron and the heads Alloy. but worst of all it was built at the end of leylands existants by demotivated workers. Often the engines were not cleaned of their casting sand, and when people are restoring their engines today, 50 years later they are emptying between 1 and 2 kg of casting sand. A fixed original engine without any modification though works and it's a lovely engine - no need for extra header tanks, or external water pumps or additional fans so long as you regularly check the liquids. with a hardtop it transforms the car to a 2 door coupé!
The water pump is located no higher than other cars of the time - and certainly not at the highest point in the cooling system as per myth. What I can confirm is that if it leaks, it will lose just under 3 litres before running dry. As there was batch of incorrectly hardened water pump shafts, these have contributed to the cooling problems reputation to no end. Due to that there a many owners now that fit belt driven or electric water pumps. All well and nice, but these have issues of their own - one of which is that if one of those leaks, your engine will lose almost all coolant as the (electric) pump is located low down beside the engine. What is worse, losing 2.8 of the 10.5 litres, or almost all of it? Oh yes, the gearbox is indeed somewhat agricultural. It does not have a self centering system modern gearboxes are equipped with. You need to physically bring it over from 1-2 to 3-4, and not too fast.
I am thinking about buying one. What about curves? I live in the Sauerland. Here there are a lot of hills and curves. Is this car from the handling something for this Region? I mean I know that you Haven’t any curves and hills in the Netherlands. :-) no, only joking. So do you have any advices about what to Look at, when I test the car? By the way, nice Video and I love beeing at the sea in Den Haag ...
Hey man thanks for the comment. If you look for one always check the engine if it had a rebuild the right way and if the cooling is upgraded. The transmission can be a bit of a handful if its the overdrive. But I would let a car you wanna buy have a once over by a specialist always a good thing to do with oldtimers. And the electrics ofcourse it's BL so lucas galore. Have a good day🙌
@@dutchcarguys today I brought a yellow stag home. It was a really nice 45 mimutes cruise on the motorway with 100 to 120 km/h without any problems. The little man on the left side was very happy, like his father. When we were at home he asked 1000 times, when we drive the yellow car again, it was so much fun. By the way, this ride was with the hardtop on, so I am very exciting about riding the car without the roof:-) wish you all allways a safe trip ...
Misinformation, not 2 dolomite engines 😂😂 And Rover v8 production was so far behind that Rover P5/P6/SD1 and Range Rover sucked all supply and had extensive waiting lists until 1980s. Stag was never considered with rover v8 because of this. Good video chaps 👍👍
My bad,it was the slant 4 ofcourse but I had the dolomite in my head. And that supply issue with rover v8 I didn't know. Thanks for sharing the info and commenting. Have a good one 👍
The music is a style choice we made. We are considering also recording the engine and exhaust while we drive but that involves a lot of cables to get out of the view. The sound from the car on the mics we wear isn't that good for engine sounds. But thanks for the feedback! ❤️ We try to make our productions as good as we can, but still make it doable next to our fulltime jobs. As one thing becomes normal to us we add more into the proces. The making of an episode at this point totals at about 40 hours. So slowly more engine sounds will appear in our video's. As fulltime television audio engineer it's good or nothing for me 🫠
@@dutchcarguys shall look forward to professional audio engineer quality of engine sounds - I think u will be surprised how many more supporters u will attract with that advantage u possess :) Kick off with some all time greats such as tvr Rv8s and Stag - when available, cant really go wrong with a Dino 246GTS :) Suggest u mix three audio channels: induction, exhaust (not artificially too close) and ambient cabin being the prominent main channel :)
Super video , yep best vehicle driving experience, comfort, control, sound , ticks a lot of boxes, most stags are well sorted now with no problems,
Thanks! We totally agree, even Vincent who is not into old cars.
I've had my Stag for about 5 years now and she never stops putting a smile on my face. Someone asked if I had a good sound system in her and I said yes, it's called the engine (it does have a radio, but I turned it on once, too see if it works and it's never been on since). Really good review lads, I thoroughly enjoyed watching it.
That is a awsome story about a radio that was obsolete because it was in a great car.
Thanks for your comment and compliment.
We will have new videos soon.
Have a good one 👍🙌
Well done guys, a fresh approach to reviewing the Stag. It's funny, for a car that had such a bad reputation for reliability and quality in its day it now stands as one of the most popular classic cars of any era. And that is because of all the characteristics you have captured so well in your review. I have had mine for 11 years and I can tell you it still puts a smile on my face every time I drive it, whether to the shops or on really long tours. It's like a good wine, it gets better with age and it travels well!
Thanks for the comment .
We loved the stag, the styling ,the v8 and the ride.
And the name ,you can drive a jaaaaggg but the brits also have the staaaggg.
Have a good one and lots of lovely miles in your stag🙌
And ironically it's one of the most reliable classic cars lol mine has never let me down and it's not even modded
Glad you really enjoyed the Triumph Stag. I purchased my Triumph Stag brand new in 1973 and it has been 100% reliable and has survived the test of time. As an historic vehicle it benefits from free road tax and low insurance (50gbp per year). It has more personality than my R230 Mercedes which it will outlast. All the best.
50 £ sounds good for sutch a nice car.
Have many more smiles per gallon in your stag💪👍
Had my Stag out exercising this morning, it truly is sublime.
We really loved the Stag as well.
The best stag review ever ! You captured this car perfectly. Classic looks and sound.
I've always wanted one. Now i need one lol.
Great work guys 👏👏
Thank you.
And it is a awsome car when sorted .
Have a good one 🙌
Excellent review guys.. I think the fact that there are still so many Stags on the road and being driven tells you all you need to know about this car. Without doubt the best looking BL car made. Oh and that Stag V8 burble.. Outstanding.
Thanks for the comment.
And yea it's a beautiful car.
And a shame that there are so little original v8s left but what a sound.
Have a good one 🙌💪
Nice, glad it's all "sorted out", like the Stags!
Thanks for the comment.
We also love a good stag.
Have a good one🙌
I love it that you are covering this beautiful car, the wheels are “minilites” and not Mini Cooper! Used on Mini’s, but not exclusively. 👍🏼
Thank you.
And about the wheels I didn't know they were not a mini wheel but still In the name😅.
Have a good one💪
Great video for a great little car. So many have survived for all the reasons you have highlighted.
Thanks 🙌.
We loved our time with the stag.
Have a good one.
My first thought was how similar it is to some old American cars which you pointed out at 2:35 I’d love to drive that on a trip to Normandy. Just gotta get over that pond between here and there… Another great one!
Thanks man.
And it is a great car when sorted out properly.
Have a good one 🙌
Now that is a …nice bit of kiiiiit 😅!! Great video guys!!
It is for sure .
Thanks Natasha🙌
Hi :-) That was a great video. One of my favourite cars, though maybe not to own. I love the way Vincent looks sceptical about it to begin with, then slowly grows to love it. We had a Triumph 2000 when I was a lad; similar in some ways but less sporty, at least in appearance. It had a straight six, and that really sang when you asked it to. Thanks for the video :-)
Thanks for your comment man.
And now we need to try a 2000.
Have a good day 🙌
@@dutchcarguys I forgot: when you were saying the gear shift was a bit weird... I had two Spitfires (also beautifully shaped by Michelotti :-) ). The first was 4 speed and no overdrive; gear shift was great. Second had overdrive and the shift was sloppy. I was told it was because it had extra long remote linkage to reach over the overdrive unit. Don't know whether that applies to the Stag...
Bests, Tim
Interesting that this car was featured in the last episode of The Grand Tour that just recently aired. Maybe they were inspired by your video to include it. I’m still looking forward to your next video guys!
I hope james watched our episode and got inspired.
Would be a dream if one of them sees our videos.
But we got some more in the works.
Have a good one and thanks for the comment 👍💪
ha ha you guys are funny. I like how much you like the car. I'm glad you got a good one to drive. When they are that old, sometimes things can be messed up and not work so well. A couple of comments - you mentioned the modified cooling system with the electric water pump. But it appears to me that the original carburetors have been replaced with something different as well. Maybe that's a good thing? Opinions vary. But it must be a good thing because you liked it. Also - the steering wheel, that is not a stock steering wheel. It is much smaller diameter. The ones from 70 -72 were HUGE. But even the later ones were not as small a diameter as the one on that car. But again - a small steering wheel is probably a good thing because typically the power steering is very over boosted. So a smaller steering wheel should still be quite easy to turn, even if the modern tires are wider. All in all a great video. Loved how much you guys liked it. (I'm sure you'd get used to the 4 speed transmission shifter in a short time.)
It has a set of holey carbs on it man
And the steering wheel I need to check with the owners.
But it is a nice example of a stag man body is original engine been sorted as well as the rest.
Thanks for your comment man.
Have a good one 💪
dattttsss cooolll revvvieiwww
Thanks 🙌💪
I am going to correct you about the Triumph/Rover V8 issue.
The Rover at the time was only available with an automatic. thus it was not considered suitable for the sports tourer. The Triumph engine was actually a far more modern design with OHCs.
The wheels are from a mini cooper?
Thanks for the info man.
And yea mini cooper rims on it.
Have a good one 🙌
Spen King, and other guys who worked at Rover/Triumph/BL have said that they wouldn't have produced enough Rover V8s and Triumph already had this well on the way, it didn't occur to them to not use it. - and it's not a bad engine - more revvy / sporty characteristic as standard. Just needed the right coolant and a header tank.
Best engine for the Stag is the 3.0 v6 from the Ford Capri as the Power is Identical but the v6 is more Reliable and parts are cheaper and plentiful ✅
For the parts availability yes.
But the v8 has a better sound for the car imo.
Have a good one 🙌
The triumph 3.0 v8 is good enough with the correct maintenance.. mine never goes beyond halfway on the temp gauge. As much as I love the rover v8 engine soon as you put one into a stag you’ve ruined it. Needs to stay as a TV8 plus it’s one of the best sounding v8s around!
For all its flaws, the Triumph V8 sounds amazing. Wouldn't want to lose that.
Yes, you're right, it's one of the most beautiful, elegant British cars ever made. And so distinctive. Michelotti got the interior and exterior design perfect from every angle, just as he did with the TR4/4A/5/250 and you're right again most new cars on the roads today are so boring and dull, especially electric cars which all look the same and don't make that beautiful V8 burble. BTW the reason Triumph kept the indicator sounds so quiet is so that it doesn't distract from the beautiful sound of that V8 exhaust :)
Nice original condition and color, the only points I would disagree with are your wheels and steering wheel. The originals look better. Those rims were made for minis and IMHO don't look right on the Stag. Again, Triumph got it perfect with the original alloys which were designed for that car and the 2500S. IMO the only non-standard steering wheel that looks okay in a Stag is a Moto-Lita. You can even get the s/wheel boss with the Stag logo.
Thanks for your comment.
And it's not our car so personal preference from the owners.
Still just a awsome touring car.
Have a good one 🙌👍
great video. The engines got a bad reputation, as you said, for overheating. There are a few reasons why: the water pump sits high in the V of the engine. if there is a lack of water the pump would no longer distribute the water around the engine. There are after market header tanks to avoid that issue. People used to fill up the radiators with plain water and not coolant. the coolant has rust and oxydation inhibitors. the engine block is iron and the heads Alloy. but worst of all it was built at the end of leylands existants by demotivated workers. Often the engines were not cleaned of their casting sand, and when people are restoring their engines today, 50 years later they are emptying between 1 and 2 kg of casting sand.
A fixed original engine without any modification though works and it's a lovely engine - no need for extra header tanks, or external water pumps or additional fans so long as you regularly check the liquids.
with a hardtop it transforms the car to a 2 door coupé!
That's a lot of sand in a place you don't want it.
Thanks for your additional information man.
Have a good day👍
The water pump is located no higher than other cars of the time - and certainly not at the highest point in the cooling system as per myth. What I can confirm is that if it leaks, it will lose just under 3 litres before running dry. As there was batch of incorrectly hardened water pump shafts, these have contributed to the cooling problems reputation to no end. Due to that there a many owners now that fit belt driven or electric water pumps. All well and nice, but these have issues of their own - one of which is that if one of those leaks, your engine will lose almost all coolant as the (electric) pump is located low down beside the engine. What is worse, losing 2.8 of the 10.5 litres, or almost all of it? Oh yes, the gearbox is indeed somewhat agricultural. It does not have a self centering system modern gearboxes are equipped with. You need to physically bring it over from 1-2 to 3-4, and not too fast.
I am thinking about buying one. What about curves? I live in the Sauerland. Here there are a lot of hills and curves. Is this car from the handling something for this Region? I mean I know that you Haven’t any curves and hills in the Netherlands. :-) no, only joking.
So do you have any advices about what to Look at, when I test the car? By the way, nice Video and I love beeing at the sea in Den Haag ...
Hey man thanks for the comment.
If you look for one always check the engine if it had a rebuild the right way and if the cooling is upgraded.
The transmission can be a bit of a handful if its the overdrive.
But I would let a car you wanna buy have a once over by a specialist always a good thing to do with oldtimers.
And the electrics ofcourse it's BL so lucas galore.
Have a good day🙌
@@dutchcarguys today I brought a yellow stag home. It was a really nice 45 mimutes cruise on the motorway with 100 to 120 km/h without any problems. The little man on the left side was very happy, like his father. When we were at home he asked 1000 times, when we drive the yellow car again, it was so much fun. By the way, this ride was with the hardtop on, so I am very exciting about riding the car without the roof:-) wish you all allways a safe trip ...
Misinformation, not 2 dolomite engines 😂😂 And Rover v8 production was so far behind that Rover P5/P6/SD1 and Range Rover sucked all supply and had extensive waiting lists until 1980s. Stag was never considered with rover v8 because of this. Good video chaps 👍👍
My bad,it was the slant 4 ofcourse but I had the dolomite in my head.
And that supply issue with rover v8 I didn't know.
Thanks for sharing the info and commenting.
Have a good one 👍
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Why are you filming those plants in the intro? 😜
The plants in the very beginning or the talking ones after that?
@@dutchcarguyshahaha love the video guys ❤
Scrap the music, triumph stag make their own music.
Got a short with just the lovely rumble of the V8 and lots of times in the video as well
This is subjective, however comments during the driving are often silly on this video.
That is also subjective 😉
Only it had in the engine bay a Rover 3500 V8 from 1975...
This one is sorted.
So quite reliable.
But for parts and stuff yea better have a rover in the front.
Have a good one 🙌👍
maybe less music and your own sound effects and more of the classic lazy, 'organic' v8?
The music is a style choice we made. We are considering also recording the engine and exhaust while we drive but that involves a lot of cables to get out of the view. The sound from the car on the mics we wear isn't that good for engine sounds.
But thanks for the feedback! ❤️
We try to make our productions as good as we can, but still make it doable next to our fulltime jobs. As one thing becomes normal to us we add more into the proces. The making of an episode at this point totals at about 40 hours. So slowly more engine sounds will appear in our video's. As fulltime television audio engineer it's good or nothing for me 🫠
@@dutchcarguys shall look forward to professional audio engineer quality of engine sounds - I think u will be surprised how many more supporters u will attract with that advantage u possess :)
Kick off with some all time greats such as tvr Rv8s and Stag - when available, cant really go wrong with a Dino 246GTS :)
Suggest u mix three audio channels: induction, exhaust (not artificially too close) and ambient cabin being the prominent main channel :)
That stupid bgm kills it - can't watch :(
It is not the whole video.