I've been using it as a dash-cam for almost a year now. Not the best audio, but that's not what I need it for. It hasn't given me any problems. I highly recommend it.
I've had a Mobius as a dashcam in my cars for several years now and it is easily as good as many far more expensive dashcams. Once you have all the settings configured and remember how to switch between modes on the camera, it's a brilliant little thing. As comparisons, I also have a Roadhawk HD dashcam and a Nextbase 512GW. The Roadhawk is an excellent GPS camera, as is the newer Nextbase, because they were built for this specific purpose but for a far less obvious and more stealthy installation, the Mobius beats everything hands down. HEAT: One fairly major issue with a Mobius is how incredibly hot the battery and heatsinks become during use. A very simple fix which I have done (if you can use a screwdriver, you will be able to do this) was to open the case, disconnect the battery by unplugging it (no soldering involved) and installing the plug-in capacitor in it's place. Takes about 2 minutes to do and unless you intend to use the Mobius in some other way ie not as a dashcam, you really will need to do this.
Amazing, really useful video. I have a Mobius but never really found the right use for it. Now with your additional connection information I can look at extending the lense and adding a transmitter. Outstanding.
30 Jul 2015 Just got my new Mobius WA cam today and am reading manual etc. Thanks for this great video I will be viewing it many times I am sure until I get the many features of the cam figured out. Happy FPV flying..Ken, Ontario, Canada
+Ken K. Painless360's step by step setup instructions were spot on. With Mobius in hand, went through the process and everything worked just as it's supposed to! Thanks Painless!
My Mobius is in the post, and hopefully will be at my door soon. Thank you for a nice review and comparison video on the Mobius vrs the GoPro. I will use this for RC multirotors, helies and in my 1:1 car for auto recording driving. I think the Mobius is a very powerful package for the use mentioned above.
just bought an Mobius , had 2 fat sharks and a go pro 3 black ( witch is for sale ) and your video helped a lot for set up and understanding the Mobius. Thank You . Bang good.com is a ok place . I just started or am starting a QAV Racer company build ( Drone Flyer Co. ) getting that old soon be retiring and need a hobby I like and can make a few dollars, story short I had ordered a few replacing parts for a build and bang good made good on 2 Sunny sky motors I got by refunding me the full amount of all 4 motors witch they DID NOT have to do . So Thanks again and Yes Thanks Bang good.com Happy and safe flying . Also just got the New Phantom 3 , DJI need to get there battery's out tho sucks having 1 battery for flight. I would like to try the Solo also.enought of rambling on just THANKS !!!!
If you crash a lot like me, the sd card can sometimes pop out with a hard knock. It's worth sticking a small bit of tape on the card and folding it back out over on the mobius, saves it from pinging out in the grass.
Do you know the weight of the Mobius without the external casing? Are there links to optional ways to encase the cam with a very light skin, and reduce significantly the overall weight? Many thanks.
Very good tutorial. I have a Mobius. Your tutorial I has used to do everything with the application. Thank you. At first I gave work to recognize it. I can and give everything. Except that no matter which makes recording file, video or photos and are, with appropriate mb, but they are as corrupt. Neither seen nor can be copied from one place to another. WHAT DO YOU RECOMMEND ME. I'm thinking that caused problems at the factory, but I want to be sure.
Was there much difference in the Field of View between the different cameras? I know the 808 #16 can have a very limited FOV unless you have one with the 'D' lense.
There is a bit of difference. You can see how much on the comparison at 10:00 and later. The GoPro gives the widest, then the 808#16 with the 120 degree lens then the Mobius with the standard lens. I will be making a video to show how to fit the wide angle lens to the camera next month and make a comparison to the standard. It should make the field of view similar to the 808#16 here. Watch this space!
Excellent review... I love the camera. mount it under my RC plane and it's great. But one of my planes I want to mount on the top. I then want the controls on the top, as well. But now the video comes out up-side-down. Do you know of an option to flip the video?
Hi, yes you can. You record using the settings you want (1080p or 720p) and the video is pushed out the USB cable into the transmitter for FPV. I have a few videos on FPV that might be useful to you - ruclips.net/p/PLYsWjANuAm4rQfddw-7YZDzckoJ_KyOpm Happy flying!
Bishop Vick Hi, they are starting to appear on places like Banggood.com and eBay but without motors and control boards, I expect that a 'complete' ones will be around before Xmas.. I want one too! Happy flying!
That "slight" weight difference is relative. It's more than twice heavier. It's also enough that my mQX can't lift it. I like that they made it more capable and with better optics, rather than sticking to looks-like-car-key spy camera idea. Means they recognize who are their customers.
How long can the battery last? Can you use a power bank to supply power so it can record until the memory card is full? What is the maximum record duration if using the biggest memory card? Thanks
No stabilisation but you could use Gyroflow to use the gyro data from a Flight controller to stabilise after the flight. A more modern option is the RunCam Thumb Pro...
I can't seem to get the setup to work! I did the 5 second setup thing and downloaded the software but whenever I open the software, after about 5 seconds, the window lightens and it asks to close it.
Hi there, Have you reviewed the Veho VCC-003 Muvi Micro at all? I want to change it's focus so it will work for close ups, do you think it can be done? Thanks
I reviewed a similar camera - search for Heliguy on my channel to find it. I don't have it anymore as it was damaged in a crash but I can't think of how you could change the focal length without an external extra lens.. Best of luck with it..
Great video, very informative. Had the Mobius for a couple of years now but never gave much notice to the NTSC vs PAL settings. Probably a stupid question, but what's the advantage in using the PAL mode? I also updated the firmware after watching your video (never done that before!) and now i find the little led on top of the camera blinking blue instead of yellow, when recording. However, the camera works just fine anyway. Cheers
+Painless360 Thanks for the quick reply, guess I'll just play around with the settings and see if I notice any difference. I'm not into flying, BTW, but the Mobius works great when riding motorcycles too. :o)
You can see the answer to this at 6:49 in the video. This is configurable (see the bottom right corner of the interface called 'USB Data Port Charging'). Hope this helps..
For some reason the newest version of the setup software (v.3.0.4.5) wont work when i double tap it in the zip file. Nor when i try do extract it. Any ideas what's happening? Update: I found an older version that worked img.banggood.com/images/upload/2012/chenjianwei/mSetup.zip Update 2: Now i'm getting error messages when i try to save parameters... Update 3: The only way i got it t work was on my dads macbook
Great vid, I didn't know the Mobius could do FPV. Quick question, if I replaced my 800TVL camera in my Wizard X220S with my Mobius Lens B (have the cables) would I get a much better picture in my Eachine Goggles Two (HD)? Would I get HD in my goggles? Sorry but new to FPV, maybe best to stick to the 800TVL FPV and HD recording with my Mobius sitting above? Thx again very helpful vids.
Troest87 There are a number of lenses you can change out on the camera. If you google for 'Mobius lens' you'll find all sorts and I have other videos that show the process for swapping them. Happy flying!
I don't know if what I have to say has already been covered: To activate and use the mSetup app, I didn't have to first create the syscfg.txt file as it seems the video is saying is required.
i own the first model of the cube and it wasnt wifi capable until the cube+ came out. i dont need a review on the device, just a reveiw/how-to if this would be possible on said device
Hello thank you for this tutorial. When I try to record with my mobius 2/3 of the time I have a red light lashing then the camera shut down. Does someoen already heard about that problem by any chance ? I finaly succes to configure my APM thant to Painless360 but I can't record all that good work :(
Thanks Painless360 for this video, the best available for those with a new Mobius. One question, if you don't mind; is there a movie editing software for PC you would like to recommend? Thx again! ~s
Hi how do I load a older version on my mobius. I have all versions downloaded but can't work this out. I updated now my mobius turns off and won't record and sometimes hard to turn on. Its got full power and I have tryed different sd cards that all worked before the update. My mobius is v3 only a month old please help
mark rankin I have little experience downgrading the camera but the process is covered here - www.rcgroups.com/forums/showpost.php?p=25170908&postcount=3 Best of luck with it..
hello, I have did the following of your handling. the texts Is on the sd cart.but my pc don't recognize the Mobius when I hook the usb in.I have windows 7 what can I do that windows reads the Mobius greetings olaf
Mark Paez Jr What do you mean by 'download this'? If you mean the software then the camera should work fine without it - but you are not using all the great features of the camera well if you don't.. Best of luck.
yes this is what I mean ok cool all I have to do is put the battery in then connect it to my drone and start to video tape my flight then cool thanks your friend mark
HelloVery interesting description. I purchased the Mobius actioncam Standard V2, connected to computer Windows 7, I can only charge the battery. The PC does not reveal the Mobius so I do not know what is installed as a program. I download mSetup.exe, very interesting the different setup. I am personally interestef in the Time Lapse. What is the pocedure to make the PC recognize the Mobius and later change verios parameters for Time Lapse? Is there a driver to be installer? The Monius I was sold without documentation guide. I apologize for my English is not perfect.Thank you
It arrives ready to go but you can use the MSetup application to change things if it's doing something you don't like (like adding the date stamp to the bottom for example). Happy Flying!
It would be interesting to see latency comparisons between the Mobius, GoPro and a dedicated FPV cam. BTW, you definately want to update the firware; 1.20 is about 4 versions back now. You'll be missing out on some functionality and bug fixes otherwise. The Mobius also provides pretty good color balance customization. It a handy little camera for the money. I'm using mine to make a time-lapse build video at the moment. ;-)
I can't even get Windows to recognize the device. Tried loads of different USB ports, tried restarting. Tried turning the Mobius camera on and off when connected via USB. I assume you left it on when you plugged it into the USB for it to view in the mSetep.exe software? I tried opening mSetup.exe when the camera is on via the USB cable but it won't open. So I have to turn the Mobius off and then mSetup runs but it see's nothing. Any ideas?
To do that you would need something on the tablet to plug the video out cable into. Not sure what that would be.. I'd look at using it as a webcam, and then recording the video like that. Sorry I can't be more help.
HelloI bought a mini-USB cable on one side and the other USB (not supplied with the Mobius,one supplied,video output and battery charging from a PC),the computer revealed Cam.Ho opened the folder and found:DCIM->100DSCIM and DBGLOG notepad Neither item vuote.Ho made a recovery and in the video clip at the bottom there is the date 2014-01-17 hours 23,18,05.Con Mobius connected to the PC,pressing more the MODE button does not change nulla.Come I can do to see the Configuration and change the parameters?With the monitor screen mSetup I tried to click on MODE 1 to change some value,the monitor does nonchange anything,most likely need a different cable from whatt I acquistato.Se you can show me the code and where to buy it?Help.Sorry mi englih.Please-
+Luigi Del Conte You need to create the configuration file my holding the power and mode buttons at the same time. If you can not do that then go back to the supplier for help. Best of luck.
@@Painless360I know, I had this camera for 10 years already, could they do for android as for PC mSetup to configure the camera?🙂They still make these cameras today.
Interesting review. I own both the Möbius (since it came out) and a gopro hero 3 be. My findings were completely different though. Now, I love my Möbius but wifi, 1080x60fps are much better although I reckon it comes at a price. You should clearly state which gopro it is whenever you say gp cause as it is, it gives the impression that all gopros aren't good. Also transitions from light/dark are quicker on the gopro. The Möbius usually struggles with that. But its cheap and I ll give it a free pass!
Thanks for the comment. I did state at the start what GoPro we were comparing it to (0:24) as each GoPro does perform slightly differently. Also worth considering that performance is also reliant on the firmware version as well, but this video isn't about that. This video is an overview that includes a quick video comparison to give a single example of how it performs compared with two other very popular HD/SD card recording FPV cameras. Happy flying!
Painless360 Yes I had a look at the Hero 3 Silver, it seems to lack certain very important features. I now understand your review better now. Credit is due where it is due! The BE is a different animal though, like I said, 1080x60fps with selectable viewing angle is bliss! This helps diminish vibrations in videos a lot. Now thats what I hate about GP. You either pay full cash to get the best, or you end up with a crippled product. For the $, I love my Mobius. I tend to use it more for hobby use since I can accept losing it. Not the GP. One thing we are working for on the forums is to get the Mobius devs to make a future camera with 1080x60. That would be real good. As it stands, the 720x60 is too much of a narrow view and loses too much sharpness due to the chip not being able to work that hard. But sadly, that should affect the price! Keep up the good work, you motivated me to try fpv and the Quanum goggles. Cheers!
my one complaint about this camera: if you put it in your pocket and it inadvertently turns on, which can happen quite easily, the camera will generate a lot of heat and fry the microphone functionality. This has happened to 2 of mine (sigh)...
Sebastian White Yo Sebastian...Upon further research on this camera, it looks like there is now a Mobius version 3. It has recessed buttons which will most likely prevent accidental turn ons.
gene mayne Hi, it doesn't work that way- you don't install it- when you download it from the mfg page, you're downloading a zip file-unzip it and double click on the .exe file that results. You can copy it, or make a shortcut on your desktop if you want. i haven't used it on 8.1 so don't know but probably will run fine. (xp/win7 no problems)
gene mayne No kidding- just as they get all the new 64bit hardware working right they flip it upside down and make everyone relearn everything. I gave up, i'll stick to win7 as long as possible. The mobius is amazing for the price, but have been looking for another that has zoom/focus/iris control remotely for fpv/video work.
Man, this video is already obsolete! Wow. There was a firmware update that changed up and shifted around all the settings as well as add new ones like webcam mode and the ability to set the exact video framerate (in 5fps increments)!
Hi Max, thanks for the comment. I mention that the firmware needs updating at 6:54. The latest version is 2.25 and a video is about to be released very soon that shows the upgrade process. Mobius cameras shipping now still have v1.20 installed so showing this basic setup is necessary for those who are starting to play with, and setup, their camera for the first time. Happy flying!
Painless360 Great! Cant wait to see it! Do you plan on doing a comprehensive review of this camera? In terms of the graininess, how does it compare to your GoPro? (RUclips does a lot of compression which generally actually removes the grain in dark scenes replacing it with blockiness.) Many people seem to complain that the camera auto adjusts parameters too much, does giving it fixed settings help at all? I have only had mine for a day, I got mine pretty much the same day you have uploaded these videos! I also fabricated my own AV cable from an old universal phone charger cable that had a mini USB extention for the cable. (It was no longer needed, and 4 small clips held the tip together, it was very easy to pop them apart and solder the wires to the 5 pins and short the ground and sense pin together!)
I may do a more detailed comparison in the future. I have a wide angle lens for the Mobius on the way and when I've used that for a while then I may be able to provide a more balanced comparison. You are right - RUclips compression causes problems and removes some artefacts and adds others so sometimes showing specific issues can be tricky. The quality of the screen (TV, tablet or PC monitor) can dramatically affect how the videos look too. For me if you want the best quality go GoPro, if you can handle a few compromises and don't want to pay £300+ then the Mobius is a fantastic choice. I just wish the latency was a little less..
Painless360 yeah, Latency isn't the best but according to RC forums others who fly slowly and in wide open areas and high up do not have issues with latency. Have you had any issues with it? I do have an obsolete analog security camera with composite out (the video output seems to be 240p or 360p, and sharpness is cranked up too high on it, not to mention the noise and graininess of it!) It will work well enough probably once I can get my model to work. Are you impressed by the low light performance? Its funny, although 30fps on youtube looks fine to me, what this camera's 30fps looks worse while panning. I think the reason is because frame be frame, looks like a clear snapshot and each frame something changes, it is obvious to the eye., while youtube taking 60fps video, when it is compressed to 30 fps, it adds in some motion blur on purpose to make motion look smoother. Not apparently youtube supports 60 fps video, and it did make a noticeable difference while watching the EEVblog (an engineer in Australia who make has a vlog about electronics!) Im going to compare it to my sony HDR CX220. (an decent camera but very grainy indoors)
Painless360 Wow. Can you believe this thing supports ancient 64MB GB cards!? (it was clear and did not drop many frames, these cards do not even have a class rating, so they are probably class 1 or slower.) No other portable device will mount them, let alone write 1080p clips to them!!! In the highest possible settings (1080p30, high bit rate) The card will fill out in less than 27 seconds, not surprising though! In 1080p30 with the low bit rate, there is an additional 8 seconds added to the recording time, and at the lowest settings, (WVGA@25fps with low bit rate) it records for a whooping 2:30!!! lol! Yeah I think my 4GB class 4 card is more practical! (interestingly, more space was used up in the lowest quality mode, leaving only 1.21MB free, while the highest quality mode left over 10MB of usable space!)
+Sacha Bascombe Agreed, we have also looked at the RunCam on the channel too and it's amazing how close to a $300 camera you can get for $60 or less now. Happy flying!
Hi, for the first time I am totally disappointed with Banggood, I thought they have been pretty good up until now, I put my quad into the Irish Sea and had to start building one again so I ordered bits including the basic standard Möbius of Banggood, when it arrived it was the Wide angle one and when I plugged it into the "Msetup" it would not recognise the camera and stated that it was made by some company called "Syntek-semiconductors" and Msetup directed me to the "Möbius website fake Camera description page, every single item description that Möbius pointed out (10 of them) I had on the fake one that Banggood sent, and now Banggood won't admit it's Fake even though I sent 10 photo's of the part's that point out its Fake, So be careful if you are going to get one off Banggood, it might not be genuine.
Hi Painless360, Here's a link to the latest set-up software for the Mobius HD Camera - www.mytempfiles.info/mobius/index.html I don't have a drone (YET :) ) but as a radio ham I found your earlier video about the Diversity TX-RX system very interesting. Got a lot more of your video's to watch as I have only just (yesterday) found your channel. Have just subscribed with lots to learn.
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I've been using it as a dash-cam for almost a year now. Not the best audio, but that's not what I need it for. It hasn't given me any problems. I highly recommend it.
I've had a Mobius as a dashcam in my cars for several years now and it is easily as good as many far more expensive dashcams. Once you have all the settings configured and remember how to switch between modes on the camera, it's a brilliant little thing.
As comparisons, I also have a Roadhawk HD dashcam and a Nextbase 512GW. The Roadhawk is an excellent GPS camera, as is the newer Nextbase, because they were built for this specific purpose but for a far less obvious and more stealthy installation, the Mobius beats everything hands down.
HEAT: One fairly major issue with a Mobius is how incredibly hot the battery and heatsinks become during use. A very simple fix which I have done (if you can use a screwdriver, you will be able to do this) was to open the case, disconnect the battery by unplugging it (no soldering involved) and installing the plug-in capacitor in it's place. Takes about 2 minutes to do and unless you intend to use the Mobius in some other way ie not as a dashcam, you really will need to do this.
You have helped me so much with my first mobius action cam and now my 2nd mobius action cam. Thank you very much!
Amazing, really useful video. I have a Mobius but never really found the right use for it. Now with your additional connection information I can look at extending the lense and adding a transmitter. Outstanding.
Glad you found it useful. You can use a little FPV cradle with it too (Google 'painless360 mobius cradle' to see it in action!) Happy flying!
30 Jul 2015 Just got my new Mobius WA cam today and am reading manual etc. Thanks for this great video I will be viewing it many times I am sure until I get the many features of the cam figured out. Happy FPV flying..Ken, Ontario, Canada
Ken K. You too! :)
+Ken K. Painless360's step by step setup instructions were spot on. With Mobius in hand, went through the process and everything worked just as it's supposed to!
Thanks Painless!
YOUR VIDEOS ARE ALWAYS HELPFUL!!! THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS, AS I WILL BE GETTING THIS CAMERA SOON, THIS WAS REALLY HELPFUL.
My Mobius is in the post, and hopefully will be at my door soon. Thank you for a nice review and comparison video on the Mobius vrs the GoPro. I will use this for RC multirotors, helies and in my 1:1 car for auto recording driving.
I think the Mobius is a very powerful package for the use mentioned above.
It is a great little camera. Useful to check the settings using a PC is useful when it arrives. Best of luck!
just bought an Mobius , had 2 fat sharks and a go pro 3 black ( witch is for sale ) and your video helped a lot for set up and understanding the Mobius. Thank You . Bang good.com is a ok place . I just started or am starting a QAV Racer company build ( Drone Flyer Co. ) getting that old soon be retiring and need a hobby I like and can make a few dollars, story short I had ordered a few replacing parts for a build and bang good made good on 2 Sunny sky motors I got by refunding me the full amount of all 4 motors witch they DID NOT have to do . So Thanks again and Yes Thanks Bang good.com Happy and safe flying . Also just got the New Phantom 3 , DJI need to get there battery's out tho sucks having 1 battery for flight. I would like to try the Solo also.enought of rambling on just THANKS !!!!
I have 2 of these, wide and normal lense, I love them. even more now that you showed me how to set them up
If you crash a lot like me, the sd card can sometimes pop out with a hard knock. It's worth sticking a small bit of tape on the card and folding it back out over on the mobius, saves it from pinging out in the grass.
Great tip, thanks! Happy flying!
Many thanks again for your awesome, informative videos! Cheers!
Thank you for watching and hitting that thumbs up! :D
Do you know the weight of the Mobius without the external casing? Are there links to optional ways to encase the cam
with a very light skin, and reduce significantly the overall weight? Many thanks.
Very good tutorial. I have a Mobius. Your tutorial I has used to do everything with the application. Thank you. At first I gave work to recognize it. I can and give everything. Except that no matter which makes recording file, video or photos and are, with appropriate mb, but they are as corrupt. Neither seen nor can be copied from one place to another. WHAT DO YOU RECOMMEND ME. I'm thinking that caused problems at the factory, but I want to be sure.
+Juan Arias Software link in the description... ;)
Awesome Video as usual many thanks
Thanks for the helpful video, i am up and running in no time :)
Was there much difference in the Field of View between the different cameras? I know the 808 #16 can have a very limited FOV unless you have one with the 'D' lense.
There is a bit of difference. You can see how much on the comparison at 10:00 and later. The GoPro gives the widest, then the 808#16 with the 120 degree lens then the Mobius with the standard lens. I will be making a video to show how to fit the wide angle lens to the camera next month and make a comparison to the standard. It should make the field of view similar to the 808#16 here. Watch this space!
Excellent review... I love the camera. mount it under my RC plane and it's great. But one of my planes I want to mount on the top. I then want the controls on the top, as well. But now the video comes out up-side-down. Do you know of an option to flip the video?
Jim, watch from video from 8:34 - you'll see an option called 'Rotate Video 180deg' ;)
Happy flying!
i was wondering if the fpv cable method would work with both models polaroid cube?
As a fpv newcomer I wonder if you can record (720p or 1080p) while you use the mobius live video out and a transmitter?
Hi, yes you can. You record using the settings you want (1080p or 720p) and the video is pushed out the USB cable into the transmitter for FPV. I have a few videos on FPV that might be useful to you - ruclips.net/p/PLYsWjANuAm4rQfddw-7YZDzckoJ_KyOpm
Happy flying!
Hi mate in the Mobius software msetup it doesn't give an option for lense c so which one do I select?
Can you get a motorized gimbal for the Mobius?
Great video as always :)
Bishop Vick Hi, they are starting to appear on places like Banggood.com and eBay but without motors and control boards, I expect that a 'complete' ones will be around before Xmas.. I want one too!
Happy flying!
That "slight" weight difference is relative. It's more than twice heavier. It's also enough that my mQX can't lift it.
I like that they made it more capable and with better optics, rather than sticking to looks-like-car-key spy camera idea. Means they recognize who are their customers.
Very helpful my Mobius is all setup 👍😉🖒
How long can the battery last? Can you use a power bank to supply power so it can record until the memory card is full? What is the maximum record duration if using the biggest memory card? Thanks
Thanks for the awesome video!
Thank You for your very helpful video : )
How’s the stabilization for flight. I’m looking at this for my flights so I’m not using my GoPro
No stabilisation but you could use Gyroflow to use the gyro data from a Flight controller to stabilise after the flight. A more modern option is the RunCam Thumb Pro...
I can't seem to get the setup to work! I did the 5 second setup thing and downloaded the software but whenever I open the software, after about 5 seconds, the window lightens and it asks to close it.
thanks you, very good tutorial!
Hi there, Have you reviewed the Veho VCC-003 Muvi Micro at all? I want to change it's focus so it will work for close ups, do you think it can be done? Thanks
I reviewed a similar camera - search for Heliguy on my channel to find it. I don't have it anymore as it was damaged in a crash but I can't think of how you could change the focal length without an external extra lens..
Best of luck with it..
Thanks
Can that Mobius software be downloaded into an I MAC DESKTOP COMPUTER.
No idea - I'd check the latest on the web.. Best of luck!
Nice video! One advice - don't push the camera into the sleeve form above, silde it in from the front, otherwise the sleeve won't last very long ;)
Thanks for the tip, that's a lot easier! Happy flying!
Great video, very informative. Had the Mobius for a couple of years now but never gave much notice to the NTSC vs PAL settings. Probably a stupid question, but what's the advantage in using the PAL mode? I also updated the firmware after watching your video (never done that before!) and now i find the little led on top of the camera blinking blue instead of yellow, when recording. However, the camera works just fine anyway.
Cheers
Little really, different resolution and refresh rate mainly. I am used to PAL so it looks better to me. Happy flying!
+Painless360 Thanks for the quick reply, guess I'll just play around with the settings and see if I notice any difference. I'm not into flying, BTW, but the Mobius works great when riding motorcycles too. :o)
In that case - Happy Riding!
Does the mobius not try to charge itself when you put the powered USB in for the connections ??
Could be a Stupid question...Likely? :-)
You can see the answer to this at 6:49 in the video. This is configurable (see the bottom right corner of the interface called 'USB Data Port Charging').
Hope this helps..
Painless360 It Did ;-)
For some reason the newest version of the setup software (v.3.0.4.5) wont work when i double tap it in the zip file. Nor when i try do extract it. Any ideas what's happening?
Update: I found an older version that worked img.banggood.com/images/upload/2012/chenjianwei/mSetup.zip
Update 2: Now i'm getting error messages when i try to save parameters...
Update 3: The only way i got it t work was on my dads macbook
Great vid, I didn't know the Mobius could do FPV. Quick question, if I replaced my 800TVL camera in my Wizard X220S with my Mobius Lens B (have the cables) would I get a much better picture in my Eachine Goggles Two (HD)? Would I get HD in my goggles? Sorry but new to FPV, maybe best to stick to the 800TVL FPV and HD recording with my Mobius sitting above? Thx again very helpful vids.
How much latency are you getting with the mobius as your fpv camera?
Handley Machine Pretty good. I will make a video showing it on the bench with my FPV screen. I'll try and do this tomorrow.. Happy flying!
is the 180 degree lens interchangeable? say with a 70 degree lens?
Troest87 There are a number of lenses you can change out on the camera. If you google for 'Mobius lens' you'll find all sorts and I have other videos that show the process for swapping them.
Happy flying!
cool thanks.. guess 180 aint good for fpv
I would recommend around 120 degrees..
Do you have a RunCamHD?
Curry Stephen No, sorry. Looks like a Mobius style enclosure.
Happy flying!
I don't know if what I have to say has already been covered: To activate and use the mSetup app, I didn't have to first create the syscfg.txt file as it seems the video is saying is required.
i own the first model of the cube and it wasnt wifi capable until the cube+ came out. i dont need a review on the device, just a reveiw/how-to if this would be possible on said device
you ordered this from banggood and received it? From the reviews i've read, you are very lucky they actually sent you something...
It can take a while sometimes...
Painless360
Oh I see, thanks.
What do I need to make this camera work for Fpv. For my rc airplane
You'll need the special USB cable and a Vtx. See the videos in the 'Introduction to FPV' and 'FPV' playlists for more details..
Hello thank you for this tutorial.
When I try to record with my mobius 2/3 of the time I have a red light lashing then the camera shut down. Does someoen already heard about that problem by any chance ?
I finaly succes to configure my APM thant to Painless360 but I can't record all that good work :(
l74123 Are you sure it's fully charged? Tried another SD card?Best of luck.
why audio cable not connected to A/V Tx?
can I use audio from mobius for FPV?
Some FPV cables do also provide audio out from the Mobius..
would this be good to attach to an rc plane thx
Hi Bob, sure would. See my other videos testing the Mobius as part of an FPV/plane camera setup. Happy flying!
Painless360 thx I just ordered one from amazon with a class 4 sd 8gb card.
Thanks Painless360 for this video, the best available for those with a new Mobius.
One question, if you don't mind; is there a movie editing software for PC you would like to recommend?
Thx again!
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Everybody has their favourite. I really like Sony Vegas and use it for everything - including the editing of these videos. Best of luck!
Thanks!
hello , when i plugin my cam , its not recognized by win7
+francois Bonin Happy to help but please watch ruclips.net/video/olIqTiSJHIY/видео.html and come back to me with more detail of what you've tried..
can you make a video on connecting Mobius camera to a phone
AndyRC does more of that stuff.. Best of luck!
thanks
can you use this camera with a mac
No idea, sorry. We're not MAC users here..
yes you can.
yes we are mac users, get over it, pc vs mac died a decade ago painless360 nerd
just got my mobius but when i push the monde button and the power button no flashing light
Hi how do I load a older version on my mobius. I have all versions downloaded but can't work this out. I updated now my mobius turns off and won't record and sometimes hard to turn on. Its got full power and I have tryed different sd cards that all worked before the update. My mobius is v3 only a month old please help
mark rankin I have little experience downgrading the camera but the process is covered here - www.rcgroups.com/forums/showpost.php?p=25170908&postcount=3
Best of luck with it..
Thank you so much for taking time to help
hello, I have did the following of your handling. the texts Is on the sd cart.but my pc don't recognize the Mobius when I hook the usb in.I have windows 7 what can I do that windows reads the Mobius greetings olaf
You can directly plug the SD card into the PC. I would check the USB cable you are using isn't damaged too..
hello my name is mark and I am getting this camera do I need to download this for the camera thank your friend mark
Mark Paez Jr What do you mean by 'download this'? If you mean the software then the camera should work fine without it - but you are not using all the great features of the camera well if you don't..
Best of luck.
yes this is what I mean ok cool all I have to do is put the battery in then connect it to my drone and start to video tape my flight then cool thanks your friend mark
HelloVery interesting description. I purchased the Mobius actioncam Standard V2, connected to computer Windows 7, I can only charge the battery. The PC does not reveal the Mobius so I do not know what is installed as a program. I download mSetup.exe, very interesting the different setup. I am personally interestef in the Time Lapse. What is the pocedure to make the PC recognize the Mobius and later change verios parameters for Time Lapse? Is there a driver to be installer? The Monius I was sold without documentation guide. I apologize for my English is not perfect.Thank you
Watch the video again. You need to hold the two buttons to create the configuration file on an installed SD card.. Best of luck..
Do I have to configure it??
It arrives ready to go but you can use the MSetup application to change things if it's doing something you don't like (like adding the date stamp to the bottom for example). Happy Flying!
It would be interesting to see latency comparisons between the Mobius, GoPro and a dedicated FPV cam. BTW, you definately want to update the firware; 1.20 is about 4 versions back now. You'll be missing out on some functionality and bug fixes otherwise. The Mobius also provides pretty good color balance customization. It a handy little camera for the money. I'm using mine to make a time-lapse build video at the moment. ;-)
What SD card do I use? Mine isn't saving video
+james whitman usually a 16gb or 32gb Class10 card..
+Painless360 I have a 16gb class 10 card
+james whitman its a sandisk
I can't even get Windows to recognize the device. Tried loads of different USB ports, tried restarting. Tried turning the Mobius camera on and off when connected via USB. I assume you left it on when you plugged it into the USB for it to view in the mSetep.exe software? I tried opening mSetup.exe when the camera is on via the USB cable but it won't open. So I have to turn the Mobius off and then mSetup runs but it see's nothing. Any ideas?
+e1337prodigy I'd try another usb cable, failing that then I would contact the seller. Best of luck!
Just trying another cable now, not working just making the silly Windows noises (Bidum...Bidum...etc).
can ot recprd real time, like onto a smartphone or tablet
To do that you would need something on the tablet to plug the video out cable into. Not sure what that would be.. I'd look at using it as a webcam, and then recording the video like that. Sorry I can't be more help.
HelloI bought a mini-USB cable on one side and the other USB (not supplied with the Mobius,one supplied,video output and battery charging from a PC),the computer revealed Cam.Ho opened the folder and found:DCIM->100DSCIM and DBGLOG notepad Neither item vuote.Ho made a recovery and in the video clip at the bottom there is the date 2014-01-17 hours 23,18,05.Con Mobius connected to the PC,pressing more the MODE button does not change nulla.Come I can do to see the Configuration and change the parameters?With the monitor screen mSetup I tried to click on MODE 1 to change some value,the monitor does nonchange anything,most likely need a different cable from whatt I acquistato.Se you can show me the code and where to buy it?Help.Sorry mi englih.Please-
+Luigi Del Conte You need to create the configuration file my holding the power and mode buttons at the same time. If you can not do that then go back to the supplier for help. Best of luck.
good review
I think the 808 #16 is top out of the this group
I bought one and everything is fine except it runs very very hot? Is that normal?
We have a few here and non of them run 'very hot'. I'd let the vendor know.. Best of luck!
How can I control the parameters of this camera using an android phone or only PC can change parameters? - it's very inconvenient
This is an ancient camera... Came out way before BT or WiFi connecting was common... Best of luck
@@Painless360I know, I had this camera for 10 years already, could they do for android as for PC mSetup to configure the camera?🙂They still make these cameras today.
It slides out of the mount with the slots
Time to do a review of the Mobius 2 buck-a-roo
+Kenny Dee could be! :)
Well I just installed a mobius super capacitor with direct power and its still not saving video
+james whitman if you're using the controls ok then that sounds serious. Best of luck!
Interesting review. I own both the Möbius (since it came out) and a gopro hero 3 be. My findings were completely different though. Now, I love my Möbius but wifi, 1080x60fps are much better although I reckon it comes at a price. You should clearly state which gopro it is whenever you say gp cause as it is, it gives the impression that all gopros aren't good. Also transitions from light/dark are quicker on the gopro. The Möbius usually struggles with that. But its cheap and I ll give it a free pass!
Thanks for the comment. I did state at the start what GoPro we were comparing it to (0:24) as each GoPro does perform slightly differently. Also worth considering that performance is also reliant on the firmware version as well, but this video isn't about that. This video is an overview that includes a quick video comparison to give a single example of how it performs compared with two other very popular HD/SD card recording FPV cameras. Happy flying!
Painless360
Yes I had a look at the Hero 3 Silver, it seems to lack certain very important features. I now understand your review better now. Credit is due where it is due! The BE is a different animal though, like I said, 1080x60fps with selectable viewing angle is bliss! This helps diminish vibrations in videos a lot. Now thats what I hate about GP. You either pay full cash to get the best, or you end up with a crippled product. For the $, I love my Mobius. I tend to use it more for hobby use since I can accept losing it. Not the GP. One thing we are working for on the forums is to get the Mobius devs to make a future camera with 1080x60. That would be real good. As it stands, the 720x60 is too much of a narrow view and loses too much sharpness due to the chip not being able to work that hard. But sadly, that should affect the price! Keep up the good work, you motivated me to try fpv and the Quanum goggles. Cheers!
Thanks, I mine had no instructions.
hasn't it the motions mode record then something happens engine off?
zay peace I don't understand the question..
I meant to say is there a camera uses g sensors and records when i live the car ?
No GPS or auto record that I know of..
damit any others i should look at?that has it?
how to reset to normal, not fish eye (wide angle)
my one complaint about this camera: if you put it in your pocket and it inadvertently turns on, which can happen quite easily, the camera will generate a lot of heat and fry the microphone functionality. This has happened to 2 of mine (sigh)...
interesting , i will let ppl know that
Sebastian White Yo Sebastian...Upon further research on this camera, it looks like there is now a Mobius version 3. It has recessed buttons which will most likely prevent accidental turn ons.
How do I ask banggood people to send stuff to review?
I don't think you ask them. They'll come to you, if they see you making regular high quality videos with enough views.
Hi I can not get the Mobius Camera - Setup, M set up . zipto go to my desttop can you help
gene mayne Software to setup this camera can be downloaded from www.mobius-actioncam.com/softwareuser-guide/
Best of luck.
I am using 8.1 nothing works right looks like be using tft file
gene mayne Hi, it doesn't work that way- you don't install it- when you download it from the mfg page, you're downloading a zip file-unzip it and double click on the .exe file that results. You can copy it, or make a shortcut on your desktop if you want. i haven't used it on 8.1 so don't know but probably will run fine. (xp/win7 no problems)
hi thanks i will try that thanks win 8.1 is a pain to work its all ass back would
gene mayne No kidding- just as they get all the new 64bit hardware working right they flip it upside down and make everyone relearn everything. I gave up, i'll stick to win7 as long as possible. The mobius is amazing for the price, but have been looking for another that has zoom/focus/iris control remotely for fpv/video work.
mine refuses to open the msetup, does it not work with windows 10
Sorry, not sure. According to the instructions it should - mytempfiles.info/mobius2/ Best of luck!
I just finished setting mine up on a windows 10 computer. So, yes it does work. Maybe re download the config files and try again? I hope this helps..
Thanks Mate
You're welcome. I thought the comparison with the GoPro and 808#16 were VERY interesting...
Happy flying.
btw, everything else about the video is ace. ;-)
i've watched, liked and sub'd. now please tell me how to disable and/or edit time and date stamp, please.
+DreamWave Dave All done through Msetup (as we cover in the video). Best of luck!
awsome vid like all the rest hahah
cool
Man, this video is already obsolete! Wow. There was a firmware update that changed up and shifted around all the settings as well as add new ones like webcam mode and the ability to set the exact video framerate (in 5fps increments)!
Hi Max, thanks for the comment. I mention that the firmware needs updating at 6:54. The latest version is 2.25 and a video is about to be released very soon that shows the upgrade process.
Mobius cameras shipping now still have v1.20 installed so showing this basic setup is necessary for those who are starting to play with, and setup, their camera for the first time. Happy flying!
Painless360 Great! Cant wait to see it! Do you plan on doing a comprehensive review of this camera? In terms of the graininess, how does it compare to your GoPro? (RUclips does a lot of compression which generally actually removes the grain in dark scenes replacing it with blockiness.) Many people seem to complain that the camera auto adjusts parameters too much, does giving it fixed settings help at all? I have only had mine for a day, I got mine pretty much the same day you have uploaded these videos!
I also fabricated my own AV cable from an old universal phone charger cable that had a mini USB extention for the cable. (It was no longer needed, and 4 small clips held the tip together, it was very easy to pop them apart and solder the wires to the 5 pins and short the ground and sense pin together!)
I may do a more detailed comparison in the future. I have a wide angle lens for the Mobius on the way and when I've used that for a while then I may be able to provide a more balanced comparison.
You are right - RUclips compression causes problems and removes some artefacts and adds others so sometimes showing specific issues can be tricky. The quality of the screen (TV, tablet or PC monitor) can dramatically affect how the videos look too.
For me if you want the best quality go GoPro, if you can handle a few compromises and don't want to pay £300+ then the Mobius is a fantastic choice.
I just wish the latency was a little less..
Painless360 yeah, Latency isn't the best but according to RC forums others who fly slowly and in wide open areas and high up do not have issues with latency. Have you had any issues with it? I do have an obsolete analog security camera with composite out (the video output seems to be 240p or 360p, and sharpness is cranked up too high on it, not to mention the noise and graininess of it!) It will work well enough probably once I can get my model to work. Are you impressed by the low light performance?
Its funny, although 30fps on youtube looks fine to me, what this camera's 30fps looks worse while panning. I think the reason is because frame be frame, looks like a clear snapshot and each frame something changes, it is obvious to the eye., while youtube taking 60fps video, when it is compressed to 30 fps, it adds in some motion blur on purpose to make motion look smoother. Not apparently youtube supports 60 fps video, and it did make a noticeable difference while watching the EEVblog (an engineer in Australia who make has a vlog about electronics!)
Im going to compare it to my sony HDR CX220. (an decent camera but very grainy indoors)
Painless360 Wow. Can you believe this thing supports ancient 64MB GB cards!? (it was clear and did not drop many frames, these cards do not even have a class rating, so they are probably class 1 or slower.) No other portable device will mount them, let alone write 1080p clips to them!!!
In the highest possible settings (1080p30, high bit rate) The card will fill out in less than 27 seconds, not surprising though! In 1080p30 with the low bit rate, there is an additional 8 seconds added to the recording time, and at the lowest settings, (WVGA@25fps with low bit rate) it records for a whooping 2:30!!! lol! Yeah I think my 4GB class 4 card is more practical! (interestingly, more space was used up in the lowest quality mode, leaving only 1.21MB free, while the highest quality mode left over 10MB of usable space!)
Executable is not a popular word in Australia at the moment.
***** :)
Just proves how overpriced the GoPro's are. I've just bought a Xiaomi yicam which is terrific bang for buck but the mobius is great also.Good review.
+Sacha Bascombe Agreed, we have also looked at the RunCam on the channel too and it's amazing how close to a $300 camera you can get for $60 or less now. Happy flying!
Hi, for the first time I am totally disappointed with Banggood, I thought they have been pretty good up until now, I put my quad into the Irish Sea and had to start building one again so I ordered bits including the basic standard Möbius of Banggood, when it arrived it was the Wide angle one and when I plugged it into the "Msetup" it would not recognise the camera and stated that it was made by some company called "Syntek-semiconductors" and Msetup directed me to the "Möbius website fake Camera description page, every single item description that Möbius pointed out (10 of them) I had on the fake one that Banggood sent, and now Banggood won't admit it's Fake even though I sent 10 photo's of the part's that point out its Fake, So be careful if you are going to get one off Banggood, it might not be genuine.
what is everyone's opinion about this one? :)
Hi Painless360, Here's a link to the latest set-up software for the Mobius HD Camera - www.mytempfiles.info/mobius/index.html
I don't have a drone (YET :) ) but as a radio ham I found your earlier video about the Diversity TX-RX system very interesting. Got a lot more of your video's to watch as I have only just (yesterday) found your channel. Have just subscribed with lots to learn.
Welcome to the channel!
it's ok mate I updated firmware and c is now available sorry for torturing you lol.
Computer does not recognise it. Not very helpful
What troubleshooting have you already tried?
nathan BattlefieldDogs Same. I returned it. Tried everything. Ordered the Mobius 2 instead.
I'm very unhappy with mobius actioncams
The Hero is *to big and bulky* they need to make a camera the size of the Maxi
Slightly? As in more than twice.
Sort of like Rosie O'Donnell is slightly heavier than Kate Upton.
Cyberdactyl Agreed, but on a 1.2kg copter this isn't a big deal ;)
Happy flying!