Hello Vega, are you still waiting your licence to sail in Harlingen, I can't wait to see your video in Falmouth, best wishes from one enthusiast, beside we miss Danielle.
I love tall ships. But you would need a lot of them to replace one of Maersk's large container ships. And modern ports are not designed to handle a ship like yours. What you are doing is cool but how realistic is that? I suppose after being successful in smaller markets it could catch on. But I would think that sort of change will take decades. Good luck, I love to see new tall ships!
Sailing ships could fill a niche tramp trade across smaller ports! We will likely see such coming more into play, but I honestly (unfortunately) doubt the monstrous container ships are going anywhere. But a niche is something at least.
But those large container ships cant sail into small shallow water ports can there. Not every country has port facilities like the port of Los Angeles to handle bulk containers
Indeed ship things by sail; what you are doing is wonderful but the real message to people is to stop buying shit they don't need. Also if you want to replace trees you have cut down then you will need to be planting a whole lot more... closer to a thousand for every one cut down. canopey, useful wood, disease etc.
Make more videos, so more people will most surely support your endeavour. At least five minute videos regulary, and your numbers of subscribers will expand, and thus also economic support.....
If we want a shipping revolution to take place, companies like Sailcargo and Tres Hombres can't just be some small scale project not focusing on financial viability (at least not under the current mode of production in which global business operates). Besides, I know a million people that would kill to work on such a venture-one that has goals that provide a much lighter environmental impact on this earth.
Miss Danielle. You should have provided a proper explanation for her departure. We clearly see a change of direction, but you just carry on as if nothing happened.
Clearly the venture ran into the pandemic and increased capital needs for fit out and has been handed over to the lead investor. Videos don’t pay the bills.
When your house has burned down and housing insurance was denied long ago, or your community has been destroyed by countless hurricanes, the idea of "degrowth" and slower shipping alternatives starts to become a lot more attractive. Not to mention, one could argue that our overreliance on consumption of goods and having them right away is not exactly a very health way for us to live our lives. I personally would have no problem ordering coffee months ahead of time. The problem early on with this solution is there won't be much in the way of economies of scale until companies like Sailcargo or Tres Hombres have a much larger fleet. The consequence is probably costlier shipping; but so goes any other new industry.
I love the project, but it's a Pie in the Sky effort to attract all but a very few customers who can wait for product delivered by sail. Triple? Quadruple the time form SAmerica to NAmerica? Nobody can deal with that lag in todays economy.
In today's economy, sure, but tomorrow's economy is definitely their focus. Give climate change another 10 years and let's see where everybody's heads at with fossil fuels then.
@@Ryan_hey "Give climate change another 10 years and let's see where everybody's heads at with fossil fuels then." Yeah, like that worked for the past 5 decades...
I will stay subscribed, but it is painful to see a good friend die. Passion has gone and commerce has taken over. Just making Beg videos isn't going to work.
I love this, but if we where to totally go away from bulk shipping, ie to sails, strictly, there would have to be a minimum 50% reduction in humanity. We need a power supply, for mass shipping, that does not pollute, or pollutes massively less. Large ships, with wind assist, and greener engines are part of the solution. We might have to bring back the idea of Nuclear Power for commercial ships. This has problems, as no one wants a storage facility, for Nuclear Waste. People want the benefits, without the responsibility. All these have to be weighed for merit.
You don't need a 50% reduction in humanity. You need 1st world countries moving towards "degrowth". We consume far over our fair share of goods and resources. Additionally, much larger sail ships can be created. These are smaller because the business is new.
@@Ryan_hey They are putting Flettner sail on big ships already. Sorry, the world is overpopulated already, and lurching towards the precipice. The developed world can degrowth all it wants, still too large a population, in the world. As countries develop, they start to have fewer and fewer children, the Western world is at that point, China is at that point, Russia is there, that point, for the rest of the world, I think too far in the future, we will come down in population. I will be long dead, but in three generations, I think it will be ugly.
$10,000 MINIMUM. This a lovely idea and I am all for green but l honestly don't see this making a huge profit. not ever. you would need 50 of these ships to add up to one container ship if that.
No one wants to hear you beg for money this is not the platform for that. This is the platform where I was watching a boat being built and now I am watching absolutely nothing but a giant crock of poo! The boat! That is why we watch the videos! :)
"Beg for money". You clearly have no idea how costly production is for these kinds of ships... they need serious investment at this earlier of stage, as does an "new" industry trying to kick off the ground and take flight.
This is just one big woke idea … with ex CEO so into her. I have been watching this channel from the beginning but the channel posted rarely any videos and no serious questions were ever answered. However, they made several really good ideas of reforestation, and teaching locals about shipbuilding. Too little to support the channel and even less reasons to invest into it. But in general, having a sailing ship built from wood and not some alternative material is as stupid as it can be. They will need another four if not 5 to 6 years to finish completely that ship. And they also plan to use electric engines. That would require tons of lithium powered batteries, which would immediately deny sustainability. I believe, the leadership of this company understands what they got into it as they get older.
True, but the project isn't entirely dependent on batteries. If, in the future, the shipping industry moves towards slower alternatives, the need for augmenting sail-powered transportation with battery-powered transportation should, in theory, should decline.
You would need massive fleets of sailing ships. If you built ships out of wood without burning fossil fuels, you wouldn't have any forests left. Which is exactly what happened in the 17 & 1800's. And to build ships out of materials other than wood, you need massive amounts of fossil fuel energy. How are you going to melt and forge steel & aluminum without fossil fuels? And by the way, your massive wooden fleet will need massive amounts of copper oxide bottom paints so your hulls don't get full of worms in a year. Anyone who invests in this is a fool
You will never finish your first boat and even if you do, you can't make enough money to be sustainable. Ships need to be on-time and efficient to be a sustainable business. You can't make money if it takes you decades to build a single ship. Wind is not consistent enough to be profitable and you will end up sacrificing wages and working conditions for your crew to even try to make money, that's not sustainable. When are we going to see your business plan that answers these tough questions?
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but the world would come to a stop it it depended on wind ships or wind anything. Plus how much freight can you you haul compared to a container ship? The word your looking for is MINUSCULE
It's a different market. Some sellers value the fossil free shipping. Also, the ports are different. Bulk container ships are massive, and there are only a hand full of places that can accept them in any country. Meanwhile there are small and medium ports from a few decades ago ready to take in supplies, that are often closer to the end destination. They aren't trying to replace all shipping, but hopefully I'm the future could break the stranglehold the shipping cartels have
@@NoWheyHombre It is already working. Have a look at @fairtransport how they are in business with Tres Hombres since 2009 - that’s 14 years, and they are growing.
Is it stupidity or hypocrisy? You cut down the forest to build a wooden boat. Is that how you understand saving nature even if you have good intentions?
I think you should watch all videos. They use trees that already fell down but aren't rotten yet of course. Furthermore they plant back hundreds if not thousands of young trees.
You are going to serve a very small niche market. It's unrealistic to think general cargo traveling the pacific routes can be secured at less than 25 KPH or Asia to the EU. So where is this niche; Central America to Southern US ? Throughout European Harbors; they not set up for small cargo packets. Where will you work?
Yeah, you are absolutely right! Although a wonderful idea it is impractical to consider it to be a viable alternative to any shipping solution. Plus a reality that they have not considered at all... If you are successful at it, you will be taking business from one of the most notorious industries in the world and the idea that you would not take repercussions from that is ludicrous at best. :)
I want to know how they will ecologically dig the way to the bay, and dredge it to a useable depth (all while doing 'Minimal Damage' to the environment and associated life forms in its way!!!
Actually, "Tres Hombres" is already a successful company in Europe that operates 3 tall ships, with 3 additional ones in the works. Sailcargo is operating in waters outside of Europe, so there's certainly a market for it.
@@Ryan_hey No doubt there's market. It's just miniscule. Go tell your countries importers that instead of goods coming in from SE Asia in three weeks it will now take three times as long, or even four times as long and will require a thousand small sailing boats. A 20,000 TEU cargo vessel will not be replaced in the next four decades. They will expand. And you will carry cargo for shippers that have no quantity and no deadline. You are an Edsel. There's a following, but you do not worry the majors. And who owns the company, not the investors; I've never seen one word about how a whale investor has emerged and can take a larger share of ownership. Can Elon or Jeff or Bill buy you out...I think the answer is no....
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I appreciate and understand the mission statement and think it is great but can we get back to the boat build?
You certainly can. Just wait till the next boat build video.
Love the build videos and sustainable vibe. Clean air is the future.
When can we see an update of Ceiba please? Very curious to see your current progress, thanks
walkthrough of the refitted Vega Gamleby please! 🙏❤💪
Hello Vega, are you still waiting your licence to sail in Harlingen, I can't wait to see your video in Falmouth, best wishes from one enthusiast, beside we miss Danielle.
I love tall ships. But you would need a lot of them to replace one of Maersk's large container ships. And modern ports are not designed to handle a ship like yours. What you are doing is cool but how realistic is that? I suppose after being successful in smaller markets it could catch on. But I would think that sort of change will take decades. Good luck, I love to see new tall ships!
Sailing ships could fill a niche tramp trade across smaller ports! We will likely see such coming more into play, but I honestly (unfortunately) doubt the monstrous container ships are going anywhere. But a niche is something at least.
But those large container ships cant sail into small shallow water ports can there. Not every country has port facilities like the port of Los Angeles to handle bulk containers
Regeneration is so important. Thank you
Indeed ship things by sail; what you are doing is wonderful but the real message to people is to stop buying shit they don't need. Also if you want to replace trees you have cut down then you will need to be planting a whole lot more... closer to a thousand for every one cut down. canopey, useful wood, disease etc.
I also follow (and support) Ecoclipper. Back to sails is the way to go!
Make more videos, so more people will most surely support your endeavour. At least five minute videos regulary, and your numbers of subscribers will expand, and thus also economic support.....
Is she build like a typical clipper? The tea clippers were the fastest sailing ships back then, example Cutty Sark
I miss the construction of the ceiba videos, the investors videos save it for later, please, the gap between videos is becoming very annoying 😢
new changes in dutch sailing vessel registration are draconian
are you still out their when will the next Vid be out how is Saba coming along
also is the Vega Instagram Channel Dead?
More feels like the mission of Sailcargo is a profitable business. Good luck finding volunteers without the previous spirit
If we want a shipping revolution to take place, companies like Sailcargo and Tres Hombres can't just be some small scale project not focusing on financial viability (at least not under the current mode of production in which global business operates).
Besides, I know a million people that would kill to work on such a venture-one that has goals that provide a much lighter environmental impact on this earth.
again no boat building.
Miss Danielle. You should have provided a proper explanation for her departure. We clearly see a change of direction, but you just carry on as if nothing happened.
Clearly the venture ran into the pandemic and increased capital needs for fit out and has been handed over to the lead investor. Videos don’t pay the bills.
How would you like to wait months for your goods to get to you. Read some of the old sailing logs, see what these people aren't wanting to talk about
When your house has burned down and housing insurance was denied long ago, or your community has been destroyed by countless hurricanes, the idea of "degrowth" and slower shipping alternatives starts to become a lot more attractive. Not to mention, one could argue that our overreliance on consumption of goods and having them right away is not exactly a very health way for us to live our lives. I personally would have no problem ordering coffee months ahead of time.
The problem early on with this solution is there won't be much in the way of economies of scale until companies like Sailcargo or Tres Hombres have a much larger fleet. The consequence is probably costlier shipping; but so goes any other new industry.
The only return on investment here is good feelings and fluff.
I love the project, but it's a Pie in the Sky effort to attract all but a very few customers who can wait for product delivered by sail. Triple? Quadruple the time form SAmerica to NAmerica? Nobody can deal with that lag in todays economy.
In today's economy, sure, but tomorrow's economy is definitely their focus. Give climate change another 10 years and let's see where everybody's heads at with fossil fuels then.
@@Ryan_hey "Give climate change another 10 years and let's see where everybody's heads at with fossil fuels then."
Yeah, like that worked for the past 5 decades...
I will stay subscribed, but it is painful to see a good friend die. Passion has gone and commerce has taken over. Just making Beg videos isn't going to work.
I love this, but if we where to totally go away from bulk shipping, ie to sails, strictly, there would have to be a minimum 50% reduction in humanity.
We need a power supply, for mass shipping, that does not pollute, or pollutes massively less.
Large ships, with wind assist, and greener engines are part of the solution. We might have to bring back the idea of Nuclear Power for commercial ships. This has problems, as no one wants a storage facility, for Nuclear Waste. People want the benefits, without the responsibility.
All these have to be weighed for merit.
You don't need a 50% reduction in humanity. You need 1st world countries moving towards "degrowth". We consume far over our fair share of goods and resources. Additionally, much larger sail ships can be created. These are smaller because the business is new.
@@Ryan_hey They are putting Flettner sail on big ships already.
Sorry, the world is overpopulated already, and lurching towards the precipice.
The developed world can degrowth all it wants, still too large a population, in the world.
As countries develop, they start to have fewer and fewer children, the Western world is at that point, China is at that point, Russia is there, that point, for the rest of the world, I think too far in the future, we will come down in population. I will be long dead, but in three generations, I think it will be ugly.
$10,000 MINIMUM. This a lovely idea and I am all for green but l honestly don't see this making a huge profit. not ever. you would need 50 of these ships to add up to one container ship if that.
No one wants to hear you beg for money this is not the platform for that. This is the platform where I was watching a boat being built and now I am watching absolutely nothing but a giant crock of poo! The boat! That is why we watch the videos! :)
I think they have no choice because they are probably out of money for construction!
"Beg for money". You clearly have no idea how costly production is for these kinds of ships... they need serious investment at this earlier of stage, as does an "new" industry trying to kick off the ground and take flight.
This is just one big woke idea … with ex CEO so into her. I have been watching this channel from the beginning but the channel posted rarely any videos and no serious questions were ever answered. However, they made several really good ideas of reforestation, and teaching locals about shipbuilding. Too little to support the channel and even less reasons to invest into it. But in general, having a sailing ship built from wood and not some alternative material is as stupid as it can be. They will need another four if not 5 to 6 years to finish completely that ship. And they also plan to use electric engines. That would require tons of lithium powered batteries, which would immediately deny sustainability. I believe, the leadership of this company understands what they got into it as they get older.
True, but the project isn't entirely dependent on batteries. If, in the future, the shipping industry moves towards slower alternatives, the need for augmenting sail-powered transportation with battery-powered transportation should, in theory, should decline.
You would need massive fleets of sailing ships.
If you built ships out of wood without burning fossil fuels, you wouldn't have any forests left. Which is exactly what happened in the 17 & 1800's. And to build ships out of materials other than wood, you need massive amounts of fossil fuel energy. How are you going to melt and forge steel & aluminum without fossil fuels? And by the way, your massive wooden fleet will need massive amounts of copper oxide bottom paints so your hulls don't get full of worms in a year. Anyone who invests in this is a fool
You will never finish your first boat and even if you do, you can't make enough money to be sustainable. Ships need to be on-time and efficient to be a sustainable business. You can't make money if it takes you decades to build a single ship. Wind is not consistent enough to be profitable and you will end up sacrificing wages and working conditions for your crew to even try to make money, that's not sustainable. When are we going to see your business plan that answers these tough questions?
This is an ad. New owners are slapping the subscribers in the face right now.
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but the world would come to a stop it it depended on wind ships or wind anything. Plus how much freight can you you haul compared to a container ship? The word your looking for is MINUSCULE
It's a different market. Some sellers value the fossil free shipping. Also, the ports are different. Bulk container ships are massive, and there are only a hand full of places that can accept them in any country. Meanwhile there are small and medium ports from a few decades ago ready to take in supplies, that are often closer to the end destination. They aren't trying to replace all shipping, but hopefully I'm the future could break the stranglehold the shipping cartels have
@@NoWheyHombre dream on
@@montyklaus7223 That isn't an argument or refutation. I live in a small port town. This stuff can work.
@@NoWheyHombre It is already working. Have a look at @fairtransport how they are in business with Tres Hombres since 2009 - that’s 14 years, and they are growing.
@@MiQBohlin oh you don't have to convince me. I have shipments of food showing up to my village's tiny 70m wharf
Is it stupidity or hypocrisy? You cut down the forest to build a wooden boat. Is that how you understand saving nature even if you have good intentions?
I think you should watch all videos. They use trees that already fell down but aren't rotten yet of course. Furthermore they plant back hundreds if not thousands of young trees.
You do know trees can grow right?
You are going to serve a very small niche market. It's unrealistic to think general cargo traveling the pacific routes can be secured at less than 25 KPH or Asia to the EU. So where is this niche; Central America to Southern US ? Throughout European Harbors; they not set up for small cargo packets. Where will you work?
Yeah, you are absolutely right! Although a wonderful idea it is impractical to consider it to be a viable alternative to any shipping solution. Plus a reality that they have not considered at all... If you are successful at it, you will be taking business from one of the most notorious industries in the world and the idea that you would not take repercussions from that is ludicrous at best. :)
I want to know how they will ecologically dig the way to the bay, and dredge it to a useable depth (all while doing 'Minimal Damage' to the environment and associated life forms in its way!!!
Actually, "Tres Hombres" is already a successful company in Europe that operates 3 tall ships, with 3 additional ones in the works. Sailcargo is operating in waters outside of Europe, so there's certainly a market for it.
@@Ryan_hey No doubt there's market. It's just miniscule. Go tell your countries importers that instead of goods coming in from SE Asia in three weeks it will now take three times as long, or even four times as long and will require a thousand small sailing boats. A 20,000 TEU cargo vessel will not be replaced in the next four decades. They will expand. And you will carry cargo for shippers that have no quantity and no deadline. You are an Edsel. There's a following, but you do not worry the majors. And who owns the company, not the investors; I've never seen one word about how a whale investor has emerged and can take a larger share of ownership. Can Elon or Jeff or Bill buy you out...I think the answer is no....