Having a uni degree is not just about having that cert. It's also about learning how to learn complex stuff over a short period of time. At work, you may be thrown to face new unfamiliar challenges, so how do you get yourself to becoming an expert within a short period of time? In addition, most uni curriculum also try to expose students to subjects from various disciplines. This is actually helping graduates to have a bit of knowledge from few areas, so that he/she can have more different perspectives to solve future problems. Also, most curriculum also try to train students to think critically. Basically, your experience in university, is also conditioning you to take on real world problems in future. Yes, having a uni cert doesn't guarantee your performance, but the likelihood of that degree holder having the potential to excel and contribute significantly more in the long run will be higher. And if you have to make a bet on who to hire, who will you choose? Who will you want to pay more so that you can attract him/her to join your company?
Dewy Choo experience applies mainly for her industry only, where degree is not required. The fact is that in many other industries which require hard skills like in law or banking, degree is a must because there is technical knowledge involved. Also if you are in a government job with a largely traditional mindset, degree is a must to progress.
I personally think that the value of going to a university is not about the actual content you learn in school, but the people you meet, and the soft skills you learn. Indeed the textbook content are hardly applicable to the working world (I can attest to that) but I feel like Academia has trained individuals in critical thinking, decision making, project management, writing/skills, crafting justifications etc, this are what differentiates between poly vs uni grad imo. Personally I feel like the organisation would have their consideration in the pay disparity between uni and poly grad. Imo from a organisation pov, the higher salary for uni grads are like an jnvestement - of course whether in the future if the output of uni grad vs output of poly grad is up to discretion and future performance. I think many organisation and even the Govt and starting to realise this gap, and trying to advocate for greater emphasis on experience rather than paper qualifications. But mindset shifts takes time so it is likely that this norm will stay for awhile. Also like to point ou that this is not a problem unique mature societies like US, China, Taiwan, you see that there is oversupply of uni grads in the labour economy and wages are pushed down.
I think soft skills are important in people-related jobs, hard skills are what you learned in depth in uni and thats where all the jobs that requires it focus on. So it cant be compared, the difference is like day and night. If you are working towards a people-related sector then a degree wouldnt benefit you as much. Compared to an engineer or banker or lawyer, its all hardskills like numbers, theories and law. There may be some overlapping in terms of people-related jobs needing hardskills and vice versa, but in a nutshell, its 2 different ball game altogether.
Having degree really helps to widen your job opportunities! Don’t give up on this possibility unless you are really sure! Give yourself a chance for a better head start, and gradually figure things along the way!
Knowing people in HR they won't even care about your email. In smaller business maybe but in big corporate. You need degree to even be in consideration
Lol for doing the same job? Why not? I think if the degree holder is doing something with more specialization or actually used things from degree to do something more than the basic job, then they should get paid higher.
@@afromolukker uni fees are so much higher than the poly fees. Also, the extra time we spent on education makes it reasonable for us to get a higher pay despite doing the same job. If not, why would we want to spend so much money and time on pursuing a degree right? Athough i do agree that the job scope will be the same but to be fair, we have to get higher pay
@@peekapooh8985 doesn't make sense. Spend money on uni fees to make you more job specific. To allow you to learn techniques and skills to apply yourself more than someone with no degree
But currently most jobs dont have specific scope for uni students right. Poly grads still can work the same as uni grads. So now the only difference that is making uni grads different from poly grads is the amount of time and amount we spent to further study lol
Those with no degree can eventually pick up important skills as they continue to work in the society that doesn't really differentiate much from those graduated from uni right. What I want to bring about is the truth that uni grads do pay much higher (sch fees) and the amount of time we spent to further study instead of working right away makes it reasonable for us to get higher pay get it?
I mean being an influencer never require a diploma or degree to begin with. Same can be said for many entry level jobs. I think this discussion missed out that not many people can go down their path, imagine a fat short ugly guy. For many! the entry to a well paying career is a degree.
Tbh, at first I find the topic is quite interesting hence I clicked it to watch. After 5 mins I gave up because I cannot stand the singlish they used especially these two words “like” and “right”. Omg
Having a uni degree is not just about having that cert. It's also about learning how to learn complex stuff over a short period of time. At work, you may be thrown to face new unfamiliar challenges, so how do you get yourself to becoming an expert within a short period of time? In addition, most uni curriculum also try to expose students to subjects from various disciplines. This is actually helping graduates to have a bit of knowledge from few areas, so that he/she can have more different perspectives to solve future problems. Also, most curriculum also try to train students to think critically. Basically, your experience in university, is also conditioning you to take on real world problems in future.
Yes, having a uni cert doesn't guarantee your performance, but the likelihood of that degree holder having the potential to excel and contribute significantly more in the long run will be higher. And if you have to make a bet on who to hire, who will you choose? Who will you want to pay more so that you can attract him/her to join your company?
Dewy Choo experience applies mainly for her industry only, where degree is not required. The fact is that in many other industries which require hard skills like in law or banking, degree is a must because there is technical knowledge involved. Also if you are in a government job with a largely traditional mindset, degree is a must to progress.
What I gather is that diploma girl was salty and angry. Thus she kept bashing, and spoke with no sense
How is she bashing? Seems fine to me
I personally think that the value of going to a university is not about the actual content you learn in school, but the people you meet, and the soft skills you learn. Indeed the textbook content are hardly applicable to the working world (I can attest to that) but I feel like Academia has trained individuals in critical thinking, decision making, project management, writing/skills, crafting justifications etc, this are what differentiates between poly vs uni grad imo.
Personally I feel like the organisation would have their consideration in the pay disparity between uni and poly grad. Imo from a organisation pov, the higher salary for uni grads are like an jnvestement - of course whether in the future if the output of uni grad vs output of poly grad is up to discretion and future performance.
I think many organisation and even the Govt and starting to realise this gap, and trying to advocate for greater emphasis on experience rather than paper qualifications. But mindset shifts takes time so it is likely that this norm will stay for awhile.
Also like to point ou that this is not a problem unique mature societies like US, China, Taiwan, you see that there is oversupply of uni grads in the labour economy and wages are pushed down.
dewy too brave to bare it all and put her skin on the line for diploma kids. well done
Love Dewy’s thinking & mindset, her thinking is way more mature than her actual age 💯
I think soft skills are important in people-related jobs, hard skills are what you learned in depth in uni and thats where all the jobs that requires it focus on. So it cant be compared, the difference is like day and night. If you are working towards a people-related sector then a degree wouldnt benefit you as much. Compared to an engineer or banker or lawyer, its all hardskills like numbers, theories and law. There may be some overlapping in terms of people-related jobs needing hardskills and vice versa, but in a nutshell, its 2 different ball game altogether.
poly girl talk so big but she can’t even speak in the same language for more than 3 words…
Localize mah... ah goon...
Having degree really helps to widen your job opportunities! Don’t give up on this possibility unless you are really sure! Give yourself a chance for a better head start, and gradually figure things along the way!
The difference between Dip and Degree holders is the entry point. It depends on the pre requisites of the role.
Knowing people in HR they won't even care about your email. In smaller business maybe but in big corporate. You need degree to even be in consideration
bruh i disagree with diploma and degree having the same pay
Lol for doing the same job? Why not? I think if the degree holder is doing something with more specialization or actually used things from degree to do something more than the basic job, then they should get paid higher.
@@afromolukker uni fees are so much higher than the poly fees. Also, the extra time we spent on education makes it reasonable for us to get a higher pay despite doing the same job. If not, why would we want to spend so much money and time on pursuing a degree right? Athough i do agree that the job scope will be the same but to be fair, we have to get higher pay
@@peekapooh8985 doesn't make sense. Spend money on uni fees to make you more job specific. To allow you to learn techniques and skills to apply yourself more than someone with no degree
But currently most jobs dont have specific scope for uni students right. Poly grads still can work the same as uni grads. So now the only difference that is making uni grads different from poly grads is the amount of time and amount we spent to further study lol
Those with no degree can eventually pick up important skills as they continue to work in the society that doesn't really differentiate much from those graduated from uni right. What I want to bring about is the truth that uni grads do pay much higher (sch fees) and the amount of time we spent to further study instead of working right away makes it reasonable for us to get higher pay get it?
3:39 I do wish I did reconsider taking A-Level as my pre-university option
the only way to be successful without a degree is to get into sales or be an influencer lol
I mean being an influencer never require a diploma or degree to begin with. Same can be said for many entry level jobs. I think this discussion missed out that not many people can go down their path, imagine a fat short ugly guy. For many! the entry to a well paying career is a degree.
课程辅助活动 = CCA
课外活动 ≠ CCA
RP want to go NTU SMU 😂
Tbh, at first I find the topic is quite interesting hence I clicked it to watch. After 5 mins I gave up because I cannot stand the singlish they used especially these two words “like” and “right”. Omg