Jim Cornette on Wrestling Locker Room Introductions
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- From Episode 231 of Jim Cornette's Drive Thru
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Lol this is a great Corny rant. I've always had the impression you had to introduce yourself to everyone and shake hands. Sounds like it's a rib that's ended up being an expectation now.
The loose sloppy handshake is one of the silliest traditions I remember & have never understood (meant you're a light worker), you're not shaking hands with a baby so give a nice snug firm grip handshake like a gentleman & look them in the eye & introduce yourself 🤝
Yep. The business is filled with Meltzer marks and they think the crap he "reported" about how locker rooms worked was actually real.
I can’t remember where I heard it but I also heard that you had to shake everyone’s hand too! I would just use common sense - don’t approach the guys/girls who looked like they were busy and/or didn’t want to be disturbed, and only shake hands with those that made eye contact and actually seemed open for greeting! I’ve never been big on handshakes in the first place….
I heard the old buff bagwell stone cold interview and he mentioned shaking everyone’s hands in the WWE locker room when he got there because that’s what you were supposed to do
I Indy wrestled from 03-07, nothing outside of a few mediocre feds in and around NJ, but this is absolutely true even in small settings. I've watched people get shunned from a fed because they didn't Shake hands, or the right ones at least. You want to hear more bonkers? There was a backyard fed I went to before I went pro, they were mad i didnt shake hands and never asked me back lol. I was 15 at the time like "We're wrestling on a trampoline" lmao
Point of this is you're spot on
Reminds me of when Christ Masters said Bob Holly got mad at him for not shaking his hand, even though Bob was surrounded by people. Lmao the handshake thing definitely went out of control
I wouldn’t shake Sparky Bob Holly Plug’s hand either. That guy wants to be Taker so bad. Meanwhile the only time anyone paid any attention to him was for like a year in the attitude era when he was teamed up with Crash. Wasn’t long though before Crash became the popular one with the 24/7 hardcore title thing and Bob faded back into obscurity. Why he feels he’s owed all of this respect is 🤯. Especially when no one’s ever turned on Raw or Smackdown to watch Bob Holly compete. No one ever bought a ticket to a SMW show or a WWE show to see Bob. When Bob Holly came on that was your cue to go to the bathroom or go get popcorn or whatever. The whole tough guy thing was always funny too considering you never heard of him putting the hands to any of the big guys that got out of line. He laughed off Brock breaking his neck but beat Renee Dupree, a guy who has made it clear that he isn’t and wasn’t a fighter, up over a parking ticket. Had that been a little guy or a jobber Bob would’ve killed him. And now Bob’s gone and no one mentions him anymore unless it’s to talk about how big of a pos he was. Great legacy Bob 😂
The WWE locker room atmosphere sounds like being in Jr. High.
Just now noticed 😳 😅
It just ain't yo daddy's rasslin no mo.
We went from BJs in the parkinglot to Tic Tocks on the internet, no wonder the show isn't as good. 2022 needs more pills&BJs, less Tic Tockers and Re Tweeting a Tweet we Tweeted, Tweetin MFers
High school would have been a cool atmosphere since I was cool with everyone then. But middle school would have been a shit atmosphere. lol
Wrestling school is no joke. Its alot to remmber . Forgetting things and catching heqt sucks
" unless you're in the main event.. you ain't got no fuckin status" .... well there it is
Pery Saturn on Brets 1st day in WCW..
*He walks in and is shown his dressing room with his name.. He asked.. WTF is this about.. Then rips the sign with his name on it and went and change with the rest of the lads..
Superb.
Thanks for sharing that story, never heard that from Saturn but it definitely rings true. I believe Bret himself said in his book that he never wanted his own personal dressing room like Hulk and Dingo Warrior had....
@@simeonflake It's a clip on YTube. Just Perry sat on the side of a ring just chatting. Only about a min.
It sums up the type of character he was.
Sounds like every job I've ever been on. You say hi and introduce yourself to the immediate people you will be working with. You'll eventually meet everyone else as things go along. Don't make things weird.
A few jobs I've been on I've introduced myself and people looked at me like im fucking retarded lol. They don't care who I am just like I don't care who they are but I'm just trying to be nice.
I remember on the _Self Destruction of The Ultimate Warrior_ DVD they were talking about how Warrior breached locker room etiquette by refusing to shake everyone's hand. He had seen these people the day before and had shaken their hands then. Warrior felt no need to do it again and they criticized him for it.
just to add to this, Warrior demanded his own lockerroom as well. Which is why it triggered them so much.
Hogan had his own lockeroom toobut he would hang out with the boys and shake hands/talk. But Warrior just wanted to be alone.
Mr. Ass getting fired for calling Lita "Amy". And Shamrock calling Taker "Mark" on Raw.
And Matt Hardy got re-hired for calling Edge "Adam".
You know it's good when Jim starts reminiscing about the territory days.... 😁
Remember when Dolph Ziggler’s first gimmick (aside from Spirit Squad) was introducing himself to everyone.
Yeah. But Dolph appeared earlier than the Spirit Squad though as Chavo's golfing caddy.
It's Dolph, so no, I don't remember.
@@Cruising_On_Lake_Havasoma haha
I loved that gimmick
Just picturing someone going up to Abdullah the Butcher and exclaiming "Hi Larry!" 😂
Long story short, Wrestlers nowadays are more of a 'Mark' to the business, than the actual 'Marks'.
The bad thing now is most of us are marks in so many ways. Too many people want to book shows from the house, so if they’re ‘plan’ isn’t the plan, they can’t deal with it and ‘everything sucks’ with whatever show or company.
"Used to be the marks were in the crowd, now they're in the ring."
-Cornette on many, many, MANY occasions.
@@Cruising_On_Lake_Havasoma also Dutch Mantell to Jim Cornette
Yeah Dutch said he liked the wrestling business better when the Mark's were in the seats, not in the ring.
The way Cornette describes how it was in the territories was funny cause it's just common sense. While in WWE land it's a fucking ritual.
probably started with the Kliq or Undertaker
@@takerdust it could've started as a Curt Hennig or Owen Hart rib on rookies and job guys. It seems up their alley prank wise.
- The Original Sheik was infamous for staying in character; especially in public places where he insisted on keeping his heelish gimmick up.
Long story short, a fan once sneaked backstage, came across The Sheik and said "hey Ed (Sheik's real name), how's it going?". The Sheik became enraged
and grasped his hands around the fan's neck; strongly urging the fan to never call The Sheik by his real name ever again.
- Abdullah also had his ring name "A. Butcher" written on his wrestling pants, and yes, Abdullah did prefer to be called Mr. Butcher by most of the public.
If you believe even half the stories, The undertaker is the main stooge responsible for this.
Rasslers are like middle school Divas I swear
The WWE locker-room in the late 90's-early 00's sounded like a claustrophobic nightmare of entitled veterans and pig-headed bullies all in their own cliques and using made up rules like this about locker-room etiquette to harass newcomers.
I learnt this very quickly when I started teacher training. If you see the head and deputy head talking, just smile and say hello, or just smile. If you interrupt them…oh boy
Lol, learnt
@@qualityserviceexperts9996 Learnt is just as correct as learned. I wouldn't really laugh out loud over that
@@madamefeast4824 Well, I learnt something new from a Madame who isn't even a French Gal :)
@@qualityserviceexperts9996 learnt is standard in the UK...
@@akamiguelsanchez9985 I guess it is, innit?
This reminds me so much of being in the Army. In particular, going to your first duty station after basic/AIT. You’re so uptight, because you just did 20+ weeks of everything being pure military standards. Then you get to your unit, and it’s a whole new world.
You have Specialist telling you to go to parade rest when talking to them (which is a rib), and Sergeants who are chill and keep to themselves. The true mindgames is with senior NCOs. You have some that want you to seek them out and greet them, while others will straight up say “you’re not in my platoon, until that changes, never speak to me again.” Then you have senior NCOs (not in your immediate chain of command) that shoot the shit with you, and talk to you like they’re your brother.
Rabbi Ezra Schekelstein you must’ve been in the USMC because you can’t read
My buddy told me a story about how during his service, his hair was growing too long and one of the senior NCOs noticed. Rather than berating him, the NCO simply walked up behind him and gently tussled his hair. My buddy said it was the single most intimidating thing he had ever experienced.
@@jakefoley9539 Lmaoooo I would laugh tbh
Hi, I’m Meat, nice to meet you Stone Cold Steve Austin
LMFAO
When I went to a wrestling school and failed... they taught us to shake everyone's hand because you never knew who it was that came into the building that could be a scouter. It was APW in Hayward CA the one that was in Beyond the matt
I'll never forget the one time in the 90s when Vince McMahon himself accidentally referred to IRS by his real name during an interview, calling him "Mr. Rotunda" instead of "Mr. Schyster" - IRS made no attempt to correct Vince, instead just going along with it and getting on with the promo.
That's the smart move. If you just keep flowing most people won't even notice. If you draw attention to the botch suddenly people are paying attention. Same as if you miss a move. You just transition into the next set and hope nobody notices.
@@darthrex354 he could have corrected him in a heelish manner, treating Vince like an idiot to gain heat:
"It's Schyster you pathetic excuse for a commentator! Get it right!"
However, calling attention to the botch might not have been a good idea as you said. Not to mention, making a fool out of the boss on live television could have landed him in trouble if he didn't have Vince's consent to do so.
@@justoneguy2487 Drawing attention to it period would be seen as unprofessional by a guy like Rotunda who was raised in the old school. He was a product of Heels and Babyfaces literally having different locker rooms.
Sounds like a rib that happened a few too many times that it's lost all initial intent and become a tradition
Imagine having to reintroduce yourself to everyone after Vince had changed your name 😆
Jimmy always talks bout how in territory days, the talent would be having groupies waiting for them in the plot. Now, current wrestlers have fat,l bearded millennial marks waiting outside the plot for them 😂
10-1 Male-female ratio despite WWE spending millions last 15 years trying to build up their female fanbase.
Never heard Jim mention chief white owl before. I grew up watching him in Buffalo N.Y.
Steve Austin told story of him showing up at one of his first gigs and he says, "Hello I'm Steve Williams.". And the guy (forget who) is like Dr. Death is already Steve Williams. You should be Steve Austin.
I believe Dutch Mantell came up with the name.
@@maxxdahl6062 that sounds right.
Should've gone with 'Steve Death.'
@@herbert9241 Steve "Chilly" McFreeze
Yeah but you got most details wrong
here checking every 10 minutes to see if the video about Cody Rhodes and Brandi is up now 🤭
Here hoping you lose internet access for a decade.
what happened to Cody and Brandi?
Hopefully they recorded earlier this week and the video will be up at some point on Saturday.
Shaking everyone's hand sounds like it started as a rib
"If you were some schlub it was Hello Mr. Butcher" 😂🤣
We used to lick our hands and shake guys who were rumored to have big egos or took themselves too seriously. That was football in things like all star games or joint practices but the same etiquette pretty much carries over from sport to sport
I can't wait to hear Jim and Brian talk about the Cody Rhodes situation
I hope you lose hearing before they do it.
And about Brock Lesnar saying he doesn't care about the Hall of Fame
what Cody Rhodes situation?
This is the same rules you obey when you go to Meet & Greets......
You dont go up to Sasha Banks & say "hi Mercedes " or meet The Undertaker & Kane & say "hi Mark & Glenn"........
Hi..I'm Van Hammer and I'm here to save your company...Arn was like who da fuq is this
Weekly praise to Travis!! You’re a genius!!
Maybe we should blame Bradshaw for this. He was always bullying and probably created this shaking of hands thing to mess with the young wrestlers
Telling people you're in the building is the most elementary school shit ive ever heard
Benoit had this habit. He always wanted the new wrestlers to show respect to the seniors jericho shared one story where if a tired wrestler didn't joined the other for a drink benoit will drag you out of your room to show them respect and drink with them no matter the reason.
Benoit is the same POS who murdered his wife and son. Who cares what Benoit did in the locker room.
As an Aussie wrestler, Jim is 100% how it is in a locker room outside WWE
I swear, pro wrestlers are some of the most self absorbed and paranoid people of all time lol 😂
if you don't shake hands in WWE now, they'll rib you in Minecraft.
"Morning, Sam..."
"Morning, Ralph.."
This was a great clip. As I’m listening, I’m imagining Happy Corbin shaking everyone’s hand and kissing their ass, so he can continue to be on TV.
Greatest intro will always be Van Hammer at center stage Atlanta telling Arn Anderson Steve Austin Steve Regal Bobby Eaton and Brian Pillman hey Van Hammer here, Im WCW's Ultimate Warrior and im here to save the territory. Then sauntered off😅😅
🤣 real bold move on his part
No he didn't seriously what a knob
Wow" Jim cornette is a Wrestling Treasure .
I'd like to know if Brock introduced himself to everyone when he was new. I highly doubt people would give him a hard time about it. Real tough guys until they run into someone tougher than them.
Apparently JBL calls Mark Callaway Undertaker In real life
Corny was waiting for this question 😂😂
Plus back in the day a lot of guys probably didn't want to go by their real name maybe because it didn't roll off the tongue as easily, like Michael Higginbotham aka Shawn Michaels, or maybe their real name had some kind of taint to it like Aurelian Smith Jr aka Jake Roberts. Jake would probably drop you if you called him Aurelian!
It's like actor and musicians, most of the time there not working under there real name.
The handshake thing is a cultish way to make wrestlers feel more important
Yea that’s been going on for a Loooong time,and def not in just wrestling.
it's just a tradition bozo
Lol @ chief white owl. I fuckin knew corny low key smoked.
Thank you, Jim, for setting the record straight on this bizarre thing everyone keeps talking about.
This was fantastic!! I had to listen twice. The bj/tiktok part had me laughing hard! Good stuff.
Hey Corny I'm a commentator and I even know when business is being talked about I just stay to my table unless it's involving us.You got a good point there
Imagine going up to the Sheik and saying "Hi Eddie Farhat"
Brilliant work by Travis Heckel once again.
4:00 hello, Mr. Butcher lol
Be polite,don't get to excited,shut the fuck up and work hard. That's the best way to start at any workplace.
I remember hearing about Randy Orton back in his douche days when he would handle his crotch then insist that you had to shake his hand! If you didn’t, he would accuse you of thinking you are a bigger deal than him! If I had someone do that to me, I’d scratch in between my arse cheeks with both hands and give him a hearty handshake using both hands…
I've heard that story before as well. He definitely was an egomaniac behind the scenes
Luv this channel
Just a simple Ayyyy like the Fonz and a snap of the fingers , and the rats will flock a'plenty - don't forget a hearty thumbs up , and you're golden ponyboy
This is a great question. However, in Matt Riddle's(not a fan of btw) case, it should not be necessary. He was a big name on NXT. Which, as the company has pointed out is not developmental.
The young bucks got heat for that
I guess it's polite to acknowledge everyone when you enter a room, but a lot of this horseshit could be minimized by being one of the first few to arrive.
Whoever starts a wrestling company needs to hire Jim Cornette, and LET HIM DO HIS JOB!!!!
I swear I don't get these damn Cody comments. Did a prime Ric Flair decide to leave AEW and maybe jump back to the WWE?
And they think "Cody Rhodes" is the plan. Stardust will rise again at some point here.
Imagine coming to work everyday and having to shake everyone hands in your department. 😆
When I first started in the business I always introduced mmyself by my first name only. No one ever said anything negative about it.
Kayfabe has been dead for decades.. it really doesnt matter anymore
I did the same but everyone still called me by my gimmick name lol. I stopped eventually cause the “top guys/veterans” ego started inflating , I wasn’t rocking with that bs especially with so much to do setting up the ring and shit. Mfs passive aggressively called me superstar like that shit phased me 😂
I always smile thinking about grown men in lycra pretending to fight who think the most ridiculous things are of any importance whatsoever. Surfeit of testosterone, deficit of sense of humour.
*steroids. Ha.
I think this is like every job in the world. The new guy introduces himself to the other guys and then move on . Basically don't be a prick.
During the time I was going to wrestling school I was told on my first day when you're meeting everybody you should go and introduce yourself to everybody and give the firm handshake but after that you just show up and a "hey" will suffice.
Wrestling school 😂😂😂😂
@@johneefizterbottom yeah?
I know cant really compare the two,but in martial arts class anytime we got a new student we shook hands and introduced ourselves.
Great question. Great answer as usual. 😆
Howie the Mailroom Guy to WWE. Confirmed! 😂🤣
I can’t tell u how weird it feels to say “hi im uncle dusty.” Yeah you go by your character name in my experience.
Cornette needs to be a manager again!!!
Nah, he doesn't want to risk covid to do that sort of thing. Besides, he got this program and the cornette online store to care about.
Seems like it was simpler back then, cause when I hear about these, "locker room etiquette", I tend to cringe
U have no idea until u lived it 😅
Shit took energy outta me
@@CALL0US. Word? It's that bad, huh🤔?
@@CALL0US. got any stories, well drop a few hints?
@@wesmyone9562 yeah we're curious asf😅
@@leelohaskin7941 True that😅
Back when people had good ol fashion common sense. 😀
9:14 - 9:24, he's on point with this.
So I guess I call Sylvester Stallone "Rocky or Rambo", Larry Hagman "JR", Adam Sandler "Little Nicky", come on dude, no other form of entertainment uses their "actor" name outside of the performance.
I feel today every wrestler knows one another and all buddies.
It's a shame I was never able to achieve my life goal of becoming a top wrestling star, a true ring general and leader of the locker room, with a ridiculous gimmick name. It would have been great to have some of the top stars of the business being forced to refer to me as "Assdigger McSquirrelSniffer."
I’ve this problem with my own friends we nearly all go back our second names or nicknames ..
When I hear one of my friends being called by their first name it always seems so off to me ..
Wasn't there a situation not that long ago where someone called Naomi by her real name (Trinity) on TV?
Hey, take a deep breath buddy. Will you sign my tennis racket??
sounds like a lot of work places these day's, blokes want to shake hands every five minutes!
Why do they think they called HHH "Hunter"? or The Deadman "Taker?"
Jeez. What a non-question.
Like any other workplace lol
Hi I'm Dolph Ziggler
I mean...traditions can be started less than 20 years ago, Jim. 😅
Bron Breaker vs Brock Lesnar "Passing of the Torch Match"
Bron is NOT ready for Brock.
@@TheIslandDivision not yet . In 2 years he will be .
Someone needs to have a guy going in the ring during a live match to shake hands with the 2 guys wrestling...
THIS needed to be said ! 1thowoww !
This whole shake hands ritual seems like the sort of thing that could be squashed easily by an outsider in a high position like Nick Kahn, if they don't have any patience for bullshit. After the third day of every idiot in the arena interrupting him to shake his hand he would go "why the hell are all of you bugging me over nothing?! Stop it!" and then it would just go away. So when Vince dies and the WWE is sold, hope the person assigned to be in charge is a jerk boss that doesn't care if people like him and these things will just disappear. In general I imagine a lot of weird WWE-isms will disappear once there's no Vince McMahon to be afraid of.
Luckily today's wrestlers aren't getting blown in the parking lot. They're too busy playing video games in the locker room with the rest of the virginials. Ha.
Jim said playing on TikTok outside in the parking lot. Ha.
and considering how easily you can get cancelled or even shown up on TMZ. Wrestlers aren't gonna be too risky with that sort of thing.
@@BeyondDaX there's ways dude. Come on. It's the 🐈. Ha.
It used to be “tradition” to sacrifice young women to the gods
Common sense goes a long away before you start playin pretend.
Guys lets start a hashtag #hookisnomark on the drive thru
I would be almost worth it to avoid the WWE as a wrestler just to not have to deal with overly petty stupid bullshit like that.
It carries over everywhere if the talent is infected with these ideas.
It's no big deal to put down a marker that you're a good guy who will stand up for yourself and your friends. Take it from there and don't be afraid of making mistakes.
"I forgot,they don't go out and get a bl*wjobs anymore,Thats another thing we're missing from the wrestling business!" THAT PART WAS HILARIOUS