Don't Buy Older Armored Core Games!

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  • Опубликовано: 22 янв 2025

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  • @JeraldOsborn
    @JeraldOsborn 2 года назад +37

    As a longtime Armored Core fan these prices are heavily inflated, Armored Core 2 was a $10-15 game all day long for years. If you really want to experience the games either emulate them or just wait for the prices to come down. Don't get burned!

    • @philberto78
      @philberto78  2 года назад +1

      You're right, none of them have ever been super expensive. I couldn't believe it when I saw titles going for over a hundred dollars! What game is your favorite out of all the ones you've played?

    • @bombomos
      @bombomos Год назад +1

      This, it's not like Fromsoft will even get the money

    • @mbgmadbull1141
      @mbgmadbull1141 Год назад

      the only games I can recommend not emulating are the xbox 360/PS3 titles, only because getting your hands on the consoles is easy enough. otherwise emulate them all. verdict day and for answer are out of the question of buying a physical copy tho. however 5 and 4 are still reasonable

    • @RDD756
      @RDD756 Год назад

      @@mbgmadbull1141 idk man emulating AC4 and AC4A are pretty easy. probably just emulate those too.

    • @mbgmadbull1141
      @mbgmadbull1141 Год назад +1

      @@RDD756 I'm aware of the ease of emulation. However I still enjoy the original hardware experience.

  • @DCGamingNetwork
    @DCGamingNetwork 2 года назад +12

    The fact they didn't put any of the AC games on the PS Store is mind blowing. Talk about the amount of money they left on the table by not putting the games in the store.

    • @philberto78
      @philberto78  2 года назад +3

      You can still get the original game and Verdict Day on the PS3 store. The PSP/Vita store has some of the portable titles as well but that's it unfortunately. Like you say, a missed opportunity for them.

  • @DanofWar101
    @DanofWar101 2 года назад +16

    It's totally because of the announcement of the new game, like you said! My only concern is that now that some sellers are able to get those inflated prices, will they all drop down once the honeymoon phase is over with the new game? I hope so! Great video and keep up the good work!

    • @philberto78
      @philberto78  2 года назад

      Hey Dan yeah I'm sure a lot of people are wondering the same thing! The prices might take a while to get back to where they were but I can't imagine them staying this high forever.

  • @VengeanceMkII
    @VengeanceMkII Год назад +5

    I get the feeling a large reason why we aren't getting digital re-releases has to do with publisher redistribution legal issues.

  • @theghostoftom9916
    @theghostoftom9916 2 года назад +4

    Dude I hope they sell the original AC games on Steam. That would make my year!

    • @philberto78
      @philberto78  2 года назад +2

      They should! I’m sure they could make some decent money doing so too.

    • @theghostoftom9916
      @theghostoftom9916 2 года назад +1

      @@philberto78 Dude I would love to play Silent Line and For Answer again.

  • @artgajez2397
    @artgajez2397 Год назад +3

    I got a sealed copy of Silent Line a couple years back for 10 bucks, granted, the seller messed up and the actual price was 25, I told him that I didn't mind paying the price his son had put on the game but he said it wouldn't be right to tell me one price and then charge me another, respect
    I still got it sealed, I feel very tempted to sell it now that it's going for about 200, but honestly I don't know if I'd find one again in the future if the prices come back down, I don't need the money so I think I'll keep it, but man, I'm sure gonna be thinking about it

    • @philberto78
      @philberto78  Год назад

      Haha quite a dilemma for sure. It's hard to really know what will happen in the future so I think you're probably doing the right thing. If you like having the game and don't need the money just hold onto it. Who knows maybe the sealed copies will just hold their value now anyway!

    • @graybastion
      @graybastion Год назад

      Bro. Keep it. You'll regret it every day from the moment you do sell it.

  • @AeridesEntertainment
    @AeridesEntertainment Год назад +2

    Though I ended up spending about $150 total on the original trilogy, it was because I went for the whole thing. All discs, reproduction cases if I couldn't get the authentic case, and even the manuals. It was way more than it needed to be, but I can now proudly say I own a copy of every single AC game, with manuals intact, no missing pages, and cases for every game (AC1 and Project Phantasma having REALLY good reproduction cases, they look spot on). That said, yeah, prices are pretty freaking high right now, I'd only suggest getting the games if you're serious about putting in the hours and commitment. Now, as for reselling goes... I don't think I will until I'm getting too old, and even then, I don't think I'd sell them in anything but the complete collection I have now.

    • @philberto78
      @philberto78  Год назад

      Sounds like you collected them the right way man, getting them for a decent price and because you actually liked having a full set of the games! I'd keep them as well especially since it sounds like you put some work into getting them.

  • @Jellordgames
    @Jellordgames Год назад +1

    Same thing happened with Kings field games. It's still relatively cheap to get psp armored core games. Also if you emulate them on the vita you can program the right analog stick for your camera movement. It really helps to modernize the titles for those who don't like using the shoulder buttons to look around.

    • @philberto78
      @philberto78  Год назад +1

      Sounds like helpful advice, thanks for commenting!

  • @FancyActionNow
    @FancyActionNow Год назад +2

    Money.

  • @ultimabk
    @ultimabk Год назад +2

    From soft is leaving money on the table by not releasing the games digitally. I have all the physical games but play them emulated on my pc for better performance. With that said i would gladly pay full price if they digitally released them because they still hold up and play so well

  • @TheAlphaOmegaX3
    @TheAlphaOmegaX3 2 года назад +5

    The new trailer is freaking awesome. The shots and music were freaking perfect. Got chills! So yeah it made me want to play the old ones lol. Never have though. Plus From Software is riding high right now due to Elden Ring.

    • @philberto78
      @philberto78  2 года назад +1

      I honestly got chills too man, the mechs look like they're in some kind of epic war! I'm hoping the actual game is as good as the cinematic they put together. It will be on the PS4 too which is nice.

  • @setoace
    @setoace 2 года назад +1

    I've always hoped that FromSoftware at least remaster from Gen3 and port Gen4 and 5 ACs to PC before AC6 comes.

  • @RippahRooJizah
    @RippahRooJizah 2 года назад +1

    Most of them I wouldn't count as mediocre but, eh. I already had all the main AC games before the AC6 announcement anyway.

    • @philberto78
      @philberto78  2 года назад

      Yeah they're fun for what they are. I have AC3 and For Answer but I've never sunk a whole lot of time into either. If the new game is as good as the cinematic I'd be interested in trying it though.

  • @vinniecorleone62
    @vinniecorleone62 2 года назад +1

    It's simple because of the new game in the series coming out soon, this is a common dynamic with any new game in a popular franchise coming out drums up nostalgia for the older ones. I prefer the old Xbox "Mech Assault" games anyway.

    • @philberto78
      @philberto78  2 года назад +1

      Yes Mechassault was great on the original Xbox, and still dirt cheap too! Wonder if they'll ever continue on with that series.

    • @vinniecorleone62
      @vinniecorleone62 2 года назад +1

      @philberto78 Sadly no bud, we would have seen a sequel during the 360/PS3 gen or the XB1/PS4 era by now, tragic as there's numerous fantastic game franchises dead in the water like my beloved "Manhunt", "Killzone" & "Midnight Club" just to name a few of my favorites with little to no hope for a well deserved follow up on new hardware.

  • @RR-by2iy
    @RR-by2iy Год назад

    Why should we buy when we can get a copy somewhere?

    • @philberto78
      @philberto78  Год назад

      Some people want a genuine game for their collection but others just like to emulate.

  • @roninstormYT
    @roninstormYT Год назад +1

    this is why i hate fear too miss out and over hyping a game series this is what happen too xenosaga episode 3 stuck at 300 sadly i had too import them in japan for xenosaga i just emulate them on pc

    • @philberto78
      @philberto78  Год назад

      Was the price of Xenosaga 3 raised by hype also? I remember it used to be not super expensive until just a few years ago. I see more and more people like you in my comments saying they're just emulating now.

  • @dstreet3818
    @dstreet3818 2 года назад +1

    It's really obvious why there all expensive.
    1. New game announcement after almost 10 years without a new entry
    2. FromSoftware made these games. A developer who always makes near perfect games, loved by the community, and pretty much the last triple A developer that deserves respect. So people want to play everything else they made before Demon's Souls. That's why Kuon, Echo Night, Shadow Tower, etc. are very expensive these days.
    3. A lot of new players have been introduced to series with Armored Core VI's announcement since FromSoftware has gotten VERY popular these days. So for those that are jumping in for the 1st time with the older games re-sellers are taking advantage of them.
    It's gonna be a long time until the prices come down since there is a lot of hype around this series now all thanks to FromSoftware's name is on it. I don't believe these games are rare compared to other older FromSoftware games but they are currently hard to find since lots of people have bought so many of the games that have been listed online and they won't be showing up again until the hype dies down and then we will be seeing pages of listings for the games that are NTSC.

    • @philberto78
      @philberto78  2 года назад +1

      Yes, good points indeed. I don't think the games are rare either and that's why I advised people to just be patient. Hype can be a powerful thing!

    • @CptJistuce
      @CptJistuce Год назад +1

      More accurately, a lot of Dark Souls fans have learned about a whole series of From Software games they have never heard of and are suddenly rushing the market.
      I've seen a lot of folks express excitement about Armored Core 6 with some variant of "I've never heard of Armored Core, but I know the kind of games Fromsoft makes and I'm incredibly excited about Dark Souls With Robots." "I know the kind of games Fromsoft makes" is a direct quote from several folks.
      I'm just hoping the excitement from all the fresh blood doesn't backfire and destroy AC6. There's a LOT of people piling into the Armored Core Hype Train that have very skewed ideas about what's waiting for them at the last stop. I hope they all become true ravens, but I fear they're going to declare the game to be shit when it's not actually Dark Souls With Robots.
      ...
      I'm also hoping for a 3D Dot Game Hero 2, but that's PROBABLY just me.

  • @stashmerkin9576
    @stashmerkin9576 2 года назад +1

    I don't know about the others but V is published by From Software. Their games are insanely popular right now.

    • @philberto78
      @philberto78  2 года назад +2

      Yes I think people really started noticing them when they made the Dark Souls series and now they're really famous! They started the Armored Core series back in the late 90s.

    • @CptJistuce
      @CptJistuce Год назад +1

      Published by Bandamco in the US.
      From Soft's always self-published in Japan, but in the west it's been another story. Agetec was their historical publisher, but they're one of the smaller players that got crushed under the skyrocketing costs of game development and publishing.
      Armored Core 4 was Sega, For Answer was Ubisoft, V and Verdict Day were Bandamco.

  • @CommanderBurnz
    @CommanderBurnz Год назад

    This isnt going to lower the prices on ebay as much as you want it to

    • @philberto78
      @philberto78  Год назад

      Haha There's always a cynic.

    • @CommanderBurnz
      @CommanderBurnz Год назад

      @@philberto78 realist

    • @philberto78
      @philberto78  Год назад

      @@CommanderBurnz I already picked up these games from pawn shops years ago so I personally don't care what the prices do on ebay. If anything I should be hoping the prices go up up up!

  • @kaliduncanel3356
    @kaliduncanel3356 2 года назад

    They shouldve had AC4 and ACFA on next gen digital marketplace years ago.

    • @philberto78
      @philberto78  2 года назад

      Who knows, maybe they'll finally put them on the marketplace if AC6 sells really well.

    • @invyt
      @invyt Год назад

      4 and FA now emulate very well on PC, and even have working multiplayer! I recommend checking out the Armored Core Discord 2.0 if you wanna get into playing them again. There's about 130 active players at the moment, which is a surprising amount imo.

  • @SkyReaperOne
    @SkyReaperOne Год назад +1

    "They're mediocre, not great games"
    While I respect your opinion on this, I personally have to disagree. They were, and remain the best mech games out there. They were fun to play and the customization was top tier. Heck, the customization alone remains as the most solid system by today's standards.

    • @philberto78
      @philberto78  Год назад +1

      Yes I think the mech customization is probably the best part of the games. I said they were only good and not great because the music overall isn't that inspiring for me and the gameplay was a bit lacking. I just have 3 and For Answer though so maybe there are titles I've missed out on appreciating more.

    • @SkyReaperOne
      @SkyReaperOne Год назад +1

      @@philberto78 Oh, I get it. There's not much that changes throughout the entire series, so chances are that if you didn't like those that you played, you won't really like any of the others either. My favorite franchise doesn't have to be your favorite franchise. We can't all like the same things and that's fine. Don't worry about it. Besides, I already dispatched mercenaries to kidnap your favorite bag of Doritos and leave Legos for you to step on. :p

    • @philberto78
      @philberto78  Год назад +1

      @@SkyReaperOne Lol nooo not my favorite Doritos! That's ok but leave my Mountain Dew alone!

    • @philberto78
      @philberto78  Год назад +1

      @@SkyReaperOne Also you are very right SRO that we don't all need to like the same games and I appreciated you saying that. I just wanted to clarify though that I don't dislike the AC games and I've actually had some fun playing them so I don't plan to sell my copies or anything even when the prices are so high. You seem to be a big fan so what are you hoping for in AC6?

    • @SkyReaperOne
      @SkyReaperOne Год назад +1

      @@philberto78 Well, with all the times I've gotten burnt for having high expectations, I've learned to temper them. So I can't really say I expect much per say.
      I only hope that it does bring back the elements of the series that worked, I.E. the customization and fast paced combat. Also, I hope that it will avoid the pitfalls from the past. Such as the myriad of half baked concepts that were implemented in its previous iteration, ACV or, in my opinion, the way that AC4/4A completely trivialized any ground based combat.
      Besides that, I really hope that the game is seen as a commercial success, at least enough to justify continuing this franchise alongside the souls-likes instead of burring it again. If this next game fails, I fear it would be the last of its kind.

  • @Rio..o7..
    @Rio..o7.. Год назад

    well... I'd say if people are buying the old games hopefully they get used to the ac series

  • @AWholeLegionary
    @AWholeLegionary Год назад

    As someone with the whole collection, I am rich.

  • @lesslighter
    @lesslighter 2 года назад +1

    the most accessible game would be the AC3 "trilogy" on the PSP so THERE IS THAT.... Verdict Day is a mixed bag it depends on a server and if Bamco finally pulls the plug on the game... then everything is kaput sure you can "play" offline but the bulk of the content is tied to the server however AC 5th gen is the easiest AC to pick up and play
    if not I would start saying to start looking for the more obscure stuff from FromSoft's Library like those Tenchu games on the PSP and PS2, Fram Gride for the dreamcast, Monster Hunter Diaries on the PSP, and 3DS and Murakumo.... one of their most floopiest title on the OG XBOX
    Metal Wolf Chaos by courtesy of Devolver Digital has finally graced the US market and is also on Steam
    Nexus is "broken" I'm not sure if anyone likes that but for the benefit of the doubt do not buy the AC1 games and just get the Revolution disk from Nexus it will still tl;dp you on AC1's gist of events since that pretty much "HD-fies" AC1 era missions
    ACV is crappy to play alone because the servers are dead like literally its already been thanosed by From Soft and Bamco in favor of Verdict Day (but play it for the story?? well I guess....????)

    • @RippahRooJizah
      @RippahRooJizah 2 года назад +2

      The bulk of VD's content isn't online. A good chunk, but not the bulk of it. Even some of the MP levels I played by myself (although they work better with more players.
      And I only got to play ACV after the servers died and I was fine with that. Although the whole random stat thing I only got to hear about in passing.

  • @xTripleBlackx
    @xTripleBlackx 2 года назад

    they made 20 if u count the moblie games

  • @doomking6808
    @doomking6808 Год назад

    I mean you look into games that people sell so they set how much to sell for I pre ordered the new one so I mean I don’t get the point of videos like this saying don’t buy this or that if you want older games you can’t get no more others will make you pay a arm and a leg just do it or don’t any move on don’t make a vid saying don’t buy that’s only your view point l.

  • @TheHujnik
    @TheHujnik Год назад

    just use pcsx2