Thank you so much for uploading this awesome movement. This version is so much more expressive than the relatively "light" Newbould version. Starting the movement with the main theme performed by strings is breathtaking. One of the greatest slow movements I know....
Indeed--but then, I also like some of the symphonic tempo's of Guilini and Klemperer, So perhaps the slower, admittedly Adagio, is more to my personal internal musical clock... Thanks for the upload!
Great movement.....Bartholomee's orchestration is way better than the newbould's one.Anyway the Newbould version conducted by Marriner is not bad at all....
En esta versión de Bartholomée, hay sonidos mas propios de Schubert, que en otras, además de incluir el tercer movimiento, que en otras versiones omiten. Riccardo C., tiene razón, al decir que el segundo movimiento, andante, es excesivamente lento. Por lo demás, me alegra, que esta sinfonía, este o no compuesta en su totalidad por Schubert, se interprete.
Even though I prefer Bartholomee's version of the first movement, I think he misses a trick here by giving the theme to the strings in the beginning. Newbould's chorus of woodwinds is so haunting, and sounds more right to me.
I cannot agree with you here - I prefer much, much more the intense lamanting strings than the light wood winds by newbould which rather remind of an early Schubert symphony)!!
The very first realisation of this movement was done by Peter Gülke. His wonderful instrumentation is similiar to this one, but his tempo is faster and so more appropriate to the tempo "Andante" : ruclips.net/video/x1DeLb3o3Zk/видео.html - for me the most wonderful version of this outstanding movement!
My personal opinion is that this version is too slow. Bartholomee plays it like the tempo is marked Adagio. However, it is clearly marked Andante. IMHO, both Marriner and Mackerras play it at a better tempo. But, to each his own.
I agree it is too slow, still the orchestration seems to me more questionnable. Did you find those by Marriner and Mackerras on youtube? If yes, may I ask you to post the links? I can not find it ! Thank you :) For symphonies 4, 5, 8 and 9, you must hear it conduct by Eugen Jochum. In my opinion the tempos absolutely relies on the way orchestration displays the harmony.
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This Symphony if finished could be Schubert's greatest masterpiece.
What a discovery! Thank you!
Thank you so much for uploading this awesome movement. This version is so much more expressive than the relatively "light" Newbould version. Starting the movement with the main theme performed by strings is breathtaking. One of the greatest slow movements I know....
Listen to Kabalevsky Symphony No. 4 Largo for a great slow movement.
@@richardthibodaux8114 thank you!! Indeed a beautiful movement which I never heard before... also the 3rd movement is great!
Why's Kabalevsky?!Did he's "reminiscing"by Franz?!
@@richardthibodaux8114 heard it, so dreary, dull, uninteresting harmonic development
Usually, I ignore slow movements, but this one really sticks to my memory. Sad, slow but ends on a hopeful note.
Very nice! This would have been an amazing work, had Schubert been able to complete it. But this realization sounds impressive.
That's point, isn't it? Whoever tries to put it across now is not the real composer.
That opening theme is a foretelling of personal extinction. Along with Richard Strauss, Schubert has the most to say about death.
I think Mahler had a few things to say about impending death in his extraordinary final triptych.
Indeed--but then, I also like some of the symphonic tempo's of Guilini and Klemperer, So perhaps the slower, admittedly Adagio, is more to my personal internal musical clock...
Thanks for the upload!
Listening the 9th and 10th Schubert' s symphonies, I feel they could anticipate Bruckner, more than anticipating Schuman or Brahms 😊
Great movement.....Bartholomee's orchestration is way better than the newbould's one.Anyway the Newbould version conducted by Marriner is not bad at all....
En esta versión de Bartholomée, hay sonidos mas propios de Schubert, que en otras, además de incluir el tercer movimiento, que en otras versiones omiten. Riccardo C., tiene razón, al decir que el segundo movimiento, andante, es excesivamente lento. Por lo demás, me alegra, que esta sinfonía, este o no compuesta en su totalidad por Schubert, se interprete.
The most brucknerian of Shubert.
Even though I prefer Bartholomee's version of the first movement, I think he misses a trick here by giving the theme to the strings in the beginning. Newbould's chorus of woodwinds is so haunting, and sounds more right to me.
I cannot agree with you here - I prefer much, much more the intense lamanting strings than the light wood winds by newbould which rather remind of an early Schubert symphony)!!
The very first realisation of this movement was done by Peter Gülke. His wonderful instrumentation is similiar to this one, but his tempo is faster and so more appropriate to the tempo "Andante" : ruclips.net/video/x1DeLb3o3Zk/видео.html - for me the most wonderful version of this outstanding movement!
My personal opinion is that this version is too slow. Bartholomee plays it like the tempo is marked Adagio. However, it is clearly marked Andante. IMHO, both Marriner and Mackerras play it at a better tempo. But, to each his own.
I agree it is too slow, still the orchestration seems to me more questionnable.
Did you find those by Marriner and Mackerras on youtube? If yes, may I ask you to post the links? I can not find it ! Thank you :)
For symphonies 4, 5, 8 and 9, you must hear it conduct by Eugen Jochum. In my opinion the tempos absolutely relies on the way orchestration displays the harmony.
I found Marriner's one and don't like it. Check out for this great one : ruclips.net/video/7VDFckdHrZw/видео.html. :)
I agree - too ponderous.
The tempo seems fine to me. Definitely seems Brucknerian.
I like the tempo here!
Well, in my opinion the very different tempo of this one ruclips.net/video/7VDFckdHrZw/видео.html far more better suits Schubert's hand.
The harmonic "improvements" are dull & uninteresting compared to Professor Brian Newbould's completion.