This was fun to watch. Something I'd mention is don't be afraid to use contaminated strike more liberally. It's a short cooldown and you spent a good bit of time energy capped. It was bugged on launch to have damage reduced by armor, but now effectively hits like spell damage, and it does so much for so cheap. It can be used as emergency detection as it reveals all cloaked/burrowed units, it will fire one canister globally for EACH ES you have built, doesn't need vision to launch the barrage, does 100+ (based on masteries) guaranteed to all targets (including flyers!), and can fear them to stop damage output or keep them holed up in your barrage location. It's a super fun play style I'm enjoying. Just have to learn how to lead shots and handle your early game.
Just did a game on oblivion express with mengsk going full on earth splitter too. I had 26 at the end of the mission (maybe not a lot but it was my first game really using the earth splitter with mengsk). I'm trying to get the achievement get 200k damage with earth splitter. I jumped from 10k damage to 108k after one game just spamming earth splitter lol. I would say it's a lot of fun to spam them it kinda reminds me of the big artillery cannons you got in Supreme Commander. I didn't even think about attacking the enemy bases with my canons, I'll definitively do that in my next game. I see that you're building your earth splitter using trooper instead of worker. Is that better ? I guess it's better because you don't have to pull worker from the minerals lines to build them. I only made them using worker because I didn't know you could do that with trooper. I wonder when you put like 20 or 30 in a control group do you have to spam control group + B from all on them to fire or once is enough.
I find that using trooper to build ESO is better only because they are quicker to mobilize if an enemy wave manages to break through early on, esp air units. If some mutas manage to get into the base, you can quickly unload the troopers to defend without the need to convert laborer to trooper. Also when you put all your ESO in one control group and do an order to attack, all the ones in range will shift target at once.
Really nice seeing you explain why you do things, even simple ones like not clearing out allies base because of their abilities. It really puts in a position like I’m the one playing
Best thing to do with earth splitter cannons is to stagger the fire. That way instead of having a thump of one very powerful but very directed shot you have a wall of explosions no ground pounder can hope of crossing
Both are really strong and I think it more depends on the map and what style you prefer. Mass Earthsplitters is really strong on maps with ground objectives like Oblivion Express, Void Thrashing, Rifts to Korhal, etc. It's not as strong against something like Void Launch, especially if you're fighting a big air army.
I think that it actually doesn't affect units inside the ES. Someone pointed out in a comment that the mandate rate didn't increase faster when putting the witness on top of loaded ESOs.
How often can each artillery re-target? I often hit the hotkey "B" for bombard and it shows me a target but I can't click it anywhere. Can they only be retargeted every 60 seconds or something?
@@VincenteIL Also I don't think you need a witness on bunkered units, it doesn't seem to affect your rate of increase of Mensk's energy. Try it with them in and out and you'll see it decrease/increase accordingly. Unless it does +dmg that I wasn't aware of! Edit you can see your rate of energy increase from ~120 to ~310 when you unload the earth splitters @ 14:40
I never used the earth splitter usually I build those siege tanks and bunkers and anti air on the tracks and relax easy. call in serg on enemy base and its done
This is a really cool strategy, but my god in game this is so earrape lol. Played alongside this strat in coop not too long ago, and just ended up turning my volume off lmao
I love this strategy using toxic tyrant. It generates so much influence by the time you are to imperial witnesses, you can drop dogs of war at 100% almost every time it is off CD.
This was fun to watch. Something I'd mention is don't be afraid to use contaminated strike more liberally. It's a short cooldown and you spent a good bit of time energy capped. It was bugged on launch to have damage reduced by armor, but now effectively hits like spell damage, and it does so much for so cheap. It can be used as emergency detection as it reveals all cloaked/burrowed units, it will fire one canister globally for EACH ES you have built, doesn't need vision to launch the barrage, does 100+ (based on masteries) guaranteed to all targets (including flyers!), and can fear them to stop damage output or keep them holed up in your barrage location.
It's a super fun play style I'm enjoying. Just have to learn how to lead shots and handle your early game.
Oh cool I didn't realize it reveals cloaked/burrowed, I'll def try to use it more often. Thanks for the tips!
Really nice showcase of Mengsk's power using ESO. I was exactly looking for a video putting them to use in an effective way. Thanks a lot !
Glad it was useful to you! Thanks for watching :)
Dear Lord this hero is overpowered. Your ally can't even reach the enemy before they are all dead! lol
Thx man. its help me in playing Mengsk. The ES and nuclear combos were sooo brutals lol. Love them
Yeah I think this playstyle is super fun :D
I think mensk is good at deffending vs ground armys and his skills allow him to do devastating and unstopable strikes where he wanr
Just did a game on oblivion express with mengsk going full on earth splitter too.
I had 26 at the end of the mission (maybe not a lot but it was my first game really using the earth splitter with mengsk). I'm trying to get the achievement get 200k damage with earth splitter.
I jumped from 10k damage to 108k after one game just spamming earth splitter lol.
I would say it's a lot of fun to spam them it kinda reminds me of the big artillery cannons you got in Supreme Commander.
I didn't even think about attacking the enemy bases with my canons, I'll definitively do that in my next game.
I see that you're building your earth splitter using trooper instead of worker. Is that better ? I guess it's better because you don't have to pull worker from the minerals lines to build them.
I only made them using worker because I didn't know you could do that with trooper.
I wonder when you put like 20 or 30 in a control group do you have to spam control group + B from all on them to fire or once is enough.
I find that using trooper to build ESO is better only because they are quicker to mobilize if an enemy wave manages to break through early on, esp air units. If some mutas manage to get into the base, you can quickly unload the troopers to defend without the need to convert laborer to trooper.
Also when you put all your ESO in one control group and do an order to attack, all the ones in range will shift target at once.
Amon forces trooper: stick nose out of the hangar
Mengsk: Airstrike alarm on all map!
I didn’t know garrisoning the earth splitters increase fire rate. I thought it was useless till now.
Thanks for the video and the great commentary! :)
You're welcome, thanks for the comment!
Really nice seeing you explain why you do things, even simple ones like not clearing out allies base because of their abilities. It really puts in a position like I’m the one playing
Best thing to do with earth splitter cannons is to stagger the fire. That way instead of having a thump of one very powerful but very directed shot you have a wall of explosions no ground pounder can hope of crossing
This is one of the fastest mengsk economies ive ever seen
This was from when Mengsk was first released and you could start with twice as much imperial mandate compared to now!
@@VincenteIL oh... now i understand. I have a question. Is better mass earthsplitters or full imperial guard?
Both are really strong and I think it more depends on the map and what style you prefer. Mass Earthsplitters is really strong on maps with ground objectives like Oblivion Express, Void Thrashing, Rifts to Korhal, etc. It's not as strong against something like Void Launch, especially if you're fighting a big air army.
Usually I just go with mengsk spam poop troopers but I guess this works too.
Thanks for your video bro it was really helpful for me !! Keep going !!
Thank you, glad it helped!
#11:36 LoL blind shot Ghost kill .... shall he rest in pain :D
Yeah that ghost got demolished, though he was avenged by a friend with an oof nuke right after that
8:10 does imperial witness actually work on units inside the ES or on the ES in general? Like generate mandate + attack speed of ES?
I think that it actually doesn't affect units inside the ES. Someone pointed out in a comment that the mandate rate didn't increase faster when putting the witness on top of loaded ESOs.
no it does't... at least when this video was made. Not sure how he is this high level as mengsk and doesn't know that...
@@fallendeus Correct. It is possible now though, thanks to Mengsk's prestige 1. Extremely good for this kind of play.
How often can each artillery re-target? I often hit the hotkey "B" for bombard and it shows me a target but I can't click it anywhere. Can they only be retargeted every 60 seconds or something?
what does the troppers do inside the Earthsplitters? i never understood that
My understanding is that it makes the earthsplitter shoot more frequently the more troopers you have in it
@@VincenteIL that's true 0 troopers = 2 rpm, 4 troopers = 5 rpm from 30 sec to 6 sec between shots
They are just chilling.
Loading it. Disposing of the empty shells. Helping to aim.
@@VincenteIL Also I don't think you need a witness on bunkered units, it doesn't seem to affect your rate of increase of Mensk's energy. Try it with them in and out and you'll see it decrease/increase accordingly. Unless it does +dmg that I wasn't aware of!
Edit you can see your rate of energy increase from ~120 to ~310 when you unload the earth splitters @ 14:40
How can one raise his apm by this much, cause i can't realistically make this in under 5 minutes.:)
Mengsk is the best!!!!
Agreed lol
I never used the earth splitter usually I build those siege tanks and bunkers and anti air on the tracks and relax easy. call in serg on enemy base and its done
This is a really cool strategy, but my god in game this is so earrape lol. Played alongside this strat in coop not too long ago, and just ended up turning my volume off lmao
Wow
Dumb question, i assume troopers can shoot from the ESO?
Not a dumb question! Troopers actually cannot shoot while in the ESO, you have to unload them first.
@@VincenteIL Ah okay, so just troop storage. Thanks!
I love this strategy using toxic tyrant. It generates so much influence by the time you are to imperial witnesses, you can drop dogs of war at 100% almost every time it is off CD.
Most underrated youtuber; I subbed.
Thank you! :D