I don't think so. Her cold personality, arrogant attitude and super-honesty are characteristics of him that she already knew before they became a couple. She knew his character perfectly, especially since they lived together, and yet she chose him over Kinnouske. It was her decision. Also, despite hating romantic things, hee occasionally makes an effort to make Kotoko feel loved. Finally, when Naoki says that he gave her no reason to distrust him, he means that he never crossed the line of politeness with another women and that's true.
@@angeleslicas5737 relationship goes both ways, missy is constantly doing her best for their relationship yet he only makes effort "occasionally", they're LITERALLY MARRIED it is not something you're supposed to glorify. and as people in the internet say nowadays, "the bar is really low" and "if he could, he would". imagine the guy you like for so long say he "loves you" then proceeds to asks your father for your hand in marriage. then boom! now you're marrying the love of your life but then, weeks into the marriage he tells you he doesnt want to legalize your marriage yet. Kotoko's character was designed to be dumb, an airhead, and every unpleasant adjective you can think of. after a rollercoaster series of events plus her obsession towards naoki, do you think she'd think it through? and pertaining to your last sentence, can't you see how insecure she is in their marriage? the doubt isnt just about him being close to a woman, its also about his love for kotoko.
Ikr, he has never even said his own wife beatiful, even for once. He never adores his wife, and he suddenly call another girl beautiful while hug her right in front of his wife. What does that mean anyway, he is always mean to his wife and good with other women
I feel so sorry for kotoko 😭, nobody appreciates her beauty except for the Naoki's mum and dad, and her dad . She deserves better friends and a better husband !!
the reason why Kotoko gets jealous easily is because of Naoki's lack of assurance. it's also the reason why she doesn't have that much confidence. she deserves better treatment 🤷
I agree that naoki indeed lacks assurance to his wife. But take note that he is unexpressive and although he tries to make it up with actions he seems to have trouble with the interaction with a person in a general phase. And because he has that handicapped. he was really thankful to kotoko for putting up with his shits
@@yui380 there are people who really can't stand his attitude. I myself can't take his shits for much longer. Partly because our traits were somehow alike except that I wasn't just a silent girl in a corner minding my own business. I am usually a loud person and I express myself in a rather aggressive way if I must say. But kotoko can endure it. She was one of those rare people you meet once in your life who swallowed a lifetime of patience.
Yesss hopefully- Because I loved when it happened last time, especially when she was finally letting her stress and frstrations out by throwing stuff at him.
@@pdln I think she's controlling them because she was also insecure. She knew her son, her son is terrible... Although he's handsome and smart, she was afraid that kotoko would leave him and looking for other guy
@@EkaSetiawanNuebl yeah, I also appreciate her, but still, she should at least try to trust them and give them some space, they're adults now, they don't need guidance (but i have to admit, she's so funny sometimes)
If you watch it closely, Kotoko never gets jealous without reason. For example, her nursing friends are all "fans" of Naoki, but Kotoko never gets jealous of them even when they act like fangirls and all or other girls that are fanning over her husband because she knows they "Admire" him, but they won't cross the line. She gets jealous of those girls she knows will cross that line of being a "fan" and straight-up flirt with her husband. As for the line of Naoki, "When did I ever give you a reason to doubt me? I never have", because again, if you watch it while understanding not just Kotoko but also Naoki, Naoki is mostly polite and civil to most people that are not really part of his "inner circle." But with Kotoko and even with his mom, he acts "cold" Well, it sounds bullshit, but that's the real Naoki, and he shows that to the 2 women in his life. He acts like that with Rika because, technically, she is his cousin, and she is still young. And yes, he needs to work on assuring Kotoko, BUT Kotoko also needs to have confidence (like what NAoki said) that he chose her. I mean, the guy announced her as his wife to the media. Show himself as his husband to her classmates, and in the hospital, Naoki NEVER denies or tries to hide their marriage. In fact, he always makes sure new people around them know that fact. And Kotoko needs to see that as Naoki's way of assuring her; I mean, the guy grew up having it all; everyone looking up to him, he never had to explain himself, and he is working on that Kotoko also needs to see that.
Imagine having to deal with this feeling of insecurity and jealousy because your partner has a lack of reassurance, it's really sad honestly I feel so sad for Kotoko she deserves better, Naoki always noticed that she felt this way yet he did nothing about it, it's really upsetting
literally for 6 years!!! and Naoki couldn't handle being jealous of Keita for a few days. yeah he might love her in his own way which is a weird way to love someone lmao but u r right he gives her zero reassurance and that's so much to bear for 6 years. like that is such a shitty feelings but yeah dramas heeh
En la de Taiwán el padre de Kotoko le pega un puñetazo a Naoki por hacer sufrir a su hija, la verdad que en la de Taiwán Irie la trata mejor, y vemos cómo el la ama, lo demuestra de muchas maneras.
But even after being married for over 2 years she still calls him by his last name which isn't very assuring either. It also lacks affection, love and sincerity. Being called by their first name is reserved for family and your lover/spouse. Naoki calls her by her first name but she still ONLY calls him by his last which kind could be interpreted as she doesn't see him as her spouse/family. She addresses him like he is a random person and not her husband. If I were Naoki I would question her love too. She always says she loves him so much but not enough to address him more affectionately then she does any other person? Yes Naoki has his issues obviously but so does Kotoko. Let's not forget all the crazy and illegal things she did in her pursuit of Naoki. She's lucky he even married her honestly cause in real life I don't think anyone would fall in love or marry someone who blackmailed, harassed, stalked and spied on them. Oh and let's not forget waiting outside an apartment for 3 hours like a creepy pshyco just to see if he would come out. In real life she would have gotten jail time and not a marriage. Naoki's behaviors while cold, mean, hurtful and very frustrating were never illegal. And also Kotoko knew how he was before she married him like you said he has been like that for 6 years. She knew but she still chose to marry him so that's kind of on her. She could have given up and found someone better at anytime but she chose not to. She said no matter what happened she would keep loving Naoki.
Honestly, if Kotoko knows how to cook, he would surely eat it and would only it it. Heh, boy he even eats hher omelette full of egg shells in the second episode of season 2.
He wanted Kotoko to make him some coffee for a couple of reasons. First, he was sending Rika a strong message that Kotoko was his special someone, and second, he knew that Kotoko was sad that he didn't like her burnt fish, so he wanted to make her feel better by making him some coffee, which he likes. Naoki is not stupid. He could see what Rika was trying to do to Kotoko.
I think it's also an Asian thing. For example, you can eat food cooked by someone else, but I've noticed that tea or coffee is usually a request made to our significant other
Maturing is actually realising naoki is lucky for having someone like kotoko always putting up with his nonsense and coldness towards her I would've left him long ago for kin chan
Maturing is realising that they're both lucky to have each other and together they grew individually and as a couple. Without Naoki Kotoko wouldn't have achieved most of the things she did, neither be challenged. She obsessively stalked him, forced her feelings on him, meddled with his relationship.
Kinchan literally forced himself on Kotoko, wiretapped her conversations, caused troubles for her, meddled and obsessively stalked her, even followed her to university. Even Naoki is better than him.
the moment i saw Rika , i already felt the pain for Kotoko, istg even after fighting off Keita being all cool and realising his feelings, Naoki IS STILL FREAKIN COLD AND TREAT HER LIKE AAAAAAHHHHHHHH
I hate how he never explains to kotoko why he does things, he’s not willing to properly communicate with her so she doesn’t misunderstand and get hurt. All he does is comfort or kiss her after the damage has been done, all because he knows kotoko love him a lot and would not leave him...
Have you ever thought he doesn't explain because he doesn't understand? I honestly think this version of the character is a high functioning autistic. He loves her that's all he understands, he doesn't have 6+ years of experience like she does or the other guy she rejected. He's as immature as she is in some ways.
SOMEONE PLEASE TELL HIM!! A KISS DOESN'T SOLVE EVERYTHING!!! GOD HAVE GIVEN YOU A MOUTH! NOT JUST TO KISS BUT TO SPEAK AS WELL!!USE IT BASTARD!!! TELL HER HOW YOU FEEL !!
Naoki is really unbearable. Kotoko is always hurt because of him. In their relationship she always have to sacrifice and understand him. I just feel sorry for her, she deserves better honestly.
@@nurannisanatsircaronge9621he really is toxic. If you watched the anime, it’s a known fact. He kinda became okay towards the end but an a*s all throughout. He got milder here in the live action plus the actor is quite cute😂 so you can somehow accept the red flags.😂 I also think it’s the mother’s fault even if she is funny. They should have let those 2 date first, that’s why he became so bad in everyone’s eyes when all his bad qualities are still there when already married. Guy insisted on tying her down via proposal w/o even going on dating stage and the mother rushed it. Kotoko on the other hand is just blindly in love tho, she didn’t even object with the proposal lol he let him get his way. What she’s doing is actually gonna be so bad in real life tho
He's mad because she is buying her claims. Although I cannot justify that what he did was the right thing. But after she comes home really drunk looking dejected and rika saw them in the living room. He dropped the bomb to rika. Although he apologises in behalf of his wife immaturity he made her feel that she deserves it because she provokes her that shows she has no respect for their marriage. When rika tried to explain her side naoki turns around not letting him hear her excuses.
Sometimes "actions are louder than words" isn't the best thing. Sometimes you need to have a proper conversation and talk. Communication is important, saying words to comfort you partner is important. Comfort from a kiss will last only a while but saying things directly will help your relationship long-term. Sometimes it's important to say I love you instead of just surprising her sometimes. I get that he's a tsundere but I also thought he was supposed a genius. A genius would know the IMPORTANCE OF COMMUNICATION!!!!!!!!!!! I honestly love kotoko and she's just so adorable. I can list down so many good things about her and how she's a better person than naoki. Her friends are pathetic. They only make her more insecure but look good because of some good gestures they do, completely normal for a human being to do in a society.
When he said. " Don't compare yourself to her cause you'll be depressed". Is actually his way of saying to her that he hopes she doesn't compare her status to him and his relationship to Rika. Afterall they are married. If she constantly feel insecure over her she'll be depressed everytime , which he doesn't like because his relationship to Rika and their relationship is different in so many ways. She and him are married. They attend the same school , slept on a same bed , eats breakfast on the same table every morning , got an official wedding and honeymoon , had sex once or thrice. Basically all the things married couples do. Plus they have been married for nearly 2 and a half years. Aside from that they had a foundation before they got married. Though they never had sex before they got married. They still have the intimacy like any other couple. While Rika on the other hand is naoki's childhood companion and cousin. I am sure he is aware of her feelings for him even before. Partly the reason why Rika said she had forced his way on to him when she dramatized about their first kiss. Even that kiss she was referring to wasn't naoki's initiation. Unlike when he's with kotoko before. Even with all the over expressions , naoki didn't let her make the first move when it comes to the highest intimacy. I mean he always do the first move when he's in the mood to roll over with kotoko in bed hahahaha
@@thehalo_effect thank you. Most of the series Viewers , missunderstood naoki's perspective and I don't blame them since the story is written on kotoko's point of view. But to naoki when he said ; when did I ever gave you reason to doubt me ? I never did . " It's just because he never even considered any other girl than her. Just as he doesn't want her to like any other man aside from him , he also refrains himself from other girls with her exception. Rika is in special case because he grew up with her plus she's his cousin. For him there's no way he would fall in love with a girl very similar to his attitude. Girls who are drooling over him were just fascinated with his looks and his intelligence but they didn't really want to have a long time or a serious relationship with him. While kotoko only wants her husband's attention and affection.
@@sarahbonita9741 well they both have negative sides. Naoki problem was his cold exterior and very blunt attitude. He doesn't sugar coat his words. What's bad is bad and what's good is good but he's more likely deep when it comes to understanding the context of love in general than his wife. Kotoko on the other hand , has problems with his over expression and guliable attitude. On the outside it looks cute but looking at the aspects of it , it's actually pretty unhealthy because she's dependent on naoki. A woman must have dreams and goals for herself other than her love for anyone else. But for kotoko. She puts naoki in a pedestal to the point where she had depended her whole life on what he's going to do moving forward. But setting that attitudes of them aside. They compliments each other. And what each other lacks makes up from one another. That's the basic foundation of marriage. Harmony. They understand each other in a way only both of them recognize. That's the reason why kotoko never leave naoki's side. Because her love is genuine and she understands him in a way. Which naoki reciprocated with his loyalty towards her and him being patient to her every mistakes
Not him trying to gaslight us saying “when did I ever give reason to doubt me” literally this WHOLE season this man has made me doubt him every single time
@@camryn007 No it's Kotoko's trust in their relationship that's lacking, honestly if I were Naoki I'd be a little mad at that. She keeps thinking he'd go for anyone despite him telling her it's only her, no one and that she's good the way she is
@@sara1coco I mean I would have little trust in Naoki if I was kotoko too. This whole show she was the one putting in the effort no matter what the situation was and yeah he did care for her you could see that but he never really showed it to her, unless she was sleeping or drunk. So you would think that she would probably wouldn’t have trust in him but she did at some points. But if you want to see it that way then by all means you do you
@@camryn007 Why, he iniated all the physical touches, fulfilled a lot of her wishes, reassured her multiple times, just because he isn't all over her, doesn't mean his love is less meaningful. He showed his love multiple times, even confessed to her infront of everyone. His love is just more subtle than hers and that's why they're perfect for another. It was good that they faced this issue bc Kotoko needed to learn to trust him and the relationship.
Keita was the only one who made sense. Stand your ground. When other man challenged your husband her was confident in your love. Even after one pep talk.
Naoki only suffered from being jealous in just 2 episodes while Kotoko suffered from him for 6 years even though they were married Kotoko suffered the most. I don't know why you guys keep saying that Kotoko is lucky to have him, when in fact that Naoki is lucky to have her, it's very rare to find someone like her irl, someone like her who knows to wait and understand everything she maybe dumb but she has guts. And to tell you honestly, in real life Naoki's personality is a walking red flag and he's lucky to have Kotoko who understand and bear everything he did! If this is irl no one can bear it. We know that there's a deep message that the writer wants to tell us but what the hell, you guys made Kotoko's personality stupid. Imagine she burst out on Episode 6 but after Naoki said that he needs her she became okay and Naoki is back with his cold blooded heart. Seriously, you made Kotoko's life circus and stupid. 🤦🏻♂️
Because both are lucky to have each other without Naoki, Kotoko would've never came this far, nor found her dream or been challenged. You shouldn't forget that she's his obsessive stalker who forced her love on him and meddled with his relationships. Neither are perfect but Naoki's willing to learn and work on it for her. In real life Naoki would be better than Kotoko bc we'd call the police.
Naoki didn't even suffer from his jealousy coz he treated kotoko the worst. But coming from him, he didn't know coz the feelings is new to him. He's confused but didn't even say sorry after he realized everything.
I don't know why they're making only Kotoko to suffer for him . I don't know japanese coz I,m an Indian but still by visuals I could understand each and every thing (instead of what there talking clearly)
GOD, GIVE KOTOKO A BREAK!! WHY IS SHE THE ONLY ONE WHO'S ALWAYS SUFFERING AND GETTING HURT!? I WANTED THIS TO BE MY COMFORT SHOW BUT NAOKI IS TOO MUCH. AFTER EVERY PROBLEM SOLVED, THERE IS ANOTHER ONE. SHE ACTUALLY NEVER HAD A RIGHT APOLOGY SHE DESERVES. SHE SUFFERED A LOT YET SHE NEVER GOT ENOUGH APOLOGY OR TREATMENT FROM HIM. LET THAT GIRL REST! I LOVE THE CHARACTERS, THE VIBE, HOW THEY ACT, BASICALLY EVERYTHING BUT NAOKI! CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT WHEN??? THE RELATIONSHIP IS ACTUALLY TOXIC. I FEEL BAD FOR KOTOKO, SHE'S ALWAYS THE ONE WHO'S SUFFERING AND PUTTING A LOT OF EFFORT. EVEN IF NAOKI IS THE ONE WHO HURT HER, SHE'S STILL THE FIRST ONE WHO'S TRYING TO MAKE UP OR APOLOGIZE TO HIM. CAN HE ATLEAST BRING DOWN HIS PRIDE ONCE FOR HER? OR ATLEAST HAVE A BIT OF CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT?? IM TRYING TO UNDERSTAND AND JUST IGNORR IT BUT IT'S TOO MUCH FOR KOTOKO. SHE ACTUALLY DESERVES BETTER. BUT I'LL STILL CONTINUE TO WATCH IT ANYWAY, IM STILL HAVING FUN WATCHING THIS BEC OF OTHER CHARACTERS AND MORE
Right?! Can't believe that they can tolerate everything Naoki did to Kotoko, can't believe that his Cousin has a crush on him and kissed her when in the first place its very wrong since they've the same blood. How can they tolerate that they should've been give any lessons to her. Naoki suffered only 2 episodes like its so unfair every episodes from season 1 and 2 Kotoko suffered a lot. Where's the character development of Naoki? I hate it the fact that they're married but still has the guts to let other girls flirt with him when he already know that Kotoko has that kind of feelings. 🤦🏻♂️
They have been married for 2 1/2 years and Kotoko is the only one giving their marriage 100% and its bit embarrassing sometimes to see how Naoki treats her.
@ria wasn't he forced to kiss her or smth😭 either way its not the same with naoki and kotoko, naoki always makes the first move with kotoko whereas the other girls have to make the first move with him. but kotoko does deserve better, he's not assuring her properly and it's really irritating especially because they're married. Naoki needs to know that he's responsible for Kotoko's feelings towards him, Naoki needs to express his feelings more to really make it seem like he does love her. Though the way he acts around her is cruel and shows no mercy im sure he loves her just as much as she does because he gets to act more like himself when hes with her and that makes him really comfortable, he's usually always smiling when Kotoko's being clumsy too. now i can assure you that he doesn't smile often with others but his wife
If they remake season 3 ,may there are antigonist for Naoki ,because it was Kotoko who has many rivals and she's the one who suffered the most .I want to see Naoki crying for Kotoko.
If there will be S3, maybe they should ask permission again to his husband (last 2010 S3 of Taiwan ver has been rumored "The Last Kiss" but it didn't happen)
This is literally the last straw. The way Naoki complimented Rika in the beginning while her tightly hugging him made me so mad. He never did that to Kotoko, he never said she’s beautiful face to face and with that type of stare. Poor kotoko. Secondly, the way he yelled at Kotoko?!!!!! WTF WAS THAT. He didn’t even choose to listen to her side and he was there when the conflict started, he also knew in the first place that Rika still has feelings for him. The way he left Kotoko alone being hurt sickens the hell out of me. If he really doesn’t care about her, he could’ve been cold to her just like what he was/is to Kotoko. And also, the final scene where Kotoko and Rika confronted each other. Why the hell did he just stood there and watch them argue? What the hell was that? Isn’t he suppose to defend his wife and stop the argument and clear out the whole situation. In addition, The way he was looking at Rika when she was about to leave was something else for me… When Rika said that she will find a man better looking than Naoki.. Naoki’s face was dull. Then, when Rika looked at them for the last time, the way Naoki was staring lovingly is so disgusting to me! What kind of man is he really? I don’t know anymore, but to me. He is a jerk.
Naoki told Kotoko to stay they way she is because she's perfect for him. Kotoko is an adult, I agree that he shouldn't have shouted but she wasn't acting her age. He knew she was right and told Rika off once he realisef what was going on. He also trusted Kotoko to show why it can only be her not anyone else that's why he didn't meddle
Naoki's reaction after learning rika's return was like a brotherly affection towards his sister that he haven't seen for so long. It's normal to feel happy or to compliment them. That has nothing to do with how naoki behaves when around kotoko. If you noticed on the later episodes. Naoki shows more of his romantic side when their alone together. And even when their out on public or in school kotoko became overly clingy which naoki responded with just a normal poker face expression. Just like what naoki said after kotoko's argument to Rika. he choose her , and he hopes she gained confidence bearing his surname and her title as his wife. He wants her to act her age and be a good role model so Rika won't be surprised why she choose her as her wife. But then her playful imagination get the best of her that's why she's thinking about unimportant thoughts. Although naoki is to blame for his lack of reassurance. Kotoko should have confidence on herself as a wife too. I get naoki's perspective on this episode. For him there Is no way he would replace kotoko just to marry Rika. Nothing had happened between them even before he meet kotoko. And it's even more impossible now that's his married. For him he doesn't need to explain himself over and over again because confidence comes within the person first before others could see that in you. I hope you got my point po.
@@zylamortienio7437 Yeah and Naoki was kinda right, Kotoko needed to learn to trust him and behave like an adult. Rika is literally a 16 year old teen, not to forget his cousin. I know it's legal in Japan but why would he leave her for Rika? Really. After rewatching I realised that he was actually often but didn't communicate well
@@sara1coco I respect your insights.. Now i do understand. I’m just super anti-men AHAAHHAHAHA JK! I do love Naoki. This is my all time favorite jdrama 💖
it still breaks me how kotoko does not have a chance to speak up for herself. we all know how that picture means to her since she used it to cheer her up but it seems so easy to rika and naoki to ignore that fact.
Kotoko is one too she obsessively stalked him, forced her feelings/love on a guy who was minding his business, meddled with all his relationships, blackmailed him etc-
@@sara1coco Oh my gosh. At this point, you should get a life instead of trying to defend Naoki in every comment. You don’t have to bring Kotoko up every time somebody discuss Naoki’s bad traits. We get it girl. Kotoko has some red flags too. Both Naoki and Kotoko have bad traits, so just let the people talk about them.
@@lovelee750 Oh my gosh, this is hypocritical. I watched it and left some comments/impressions months ago (then moved but u brought me back) which you are doing under several too. Unlike most of you, I simply pointed out that both are redflags, toxic and their equal wrongdoings not just Naoki as people make it look like in every comment. It's a very onesided discussion in my eyes so no not everyone "got it", most are pretending that Kotoko (and angel Kinchan) didn't have any (as the comment above proves) bc they're more expressive and easy to read unlike naoki. For me both were toxic, they acted wrong (so no I'm not defending him) but together they grew into a healthy couple as the show progressed and it's good they phased these issues to reach an understanding. Hope you can now move on with your life.
@@lovelee750 Also pls take your own advice, get a life instead of being offended over fictional toxic characters and "let ppl talk about them" (plus their bad traits), last time I checked I am human. I like discussions 🙏
How can the whole family be so indifferent to such awful comments and actions of a girl towards a married man and his wife? I would literally make her leave the first day itself. She doesn't deserve all that good treatment. I hate girls like Rika. Uhhhh. Poor , sweet Kotoko!
How many damned love rivals are there? When do we actually get to see him treating his wife with love openly? Why are they always putting the FL down and degrading her?
@@jilliandeleon6153 I suggest "It Started with a Kiss" and "They Kiss Again", it was another remake just like Playful Kiss, Miss in Kiss, Kiss Me and this one Mischievous Kiss (I swear, it was the best version because it was full of details) You will understand the male lead's love to his wife there because it has a longer episode and they followed the original ending of it wherein there's a possibility that she will be blind and their future children might inherit it, the male lead even said to her that she's the reason why he is the happiest man in the world and even beg her not to leave him. In that ver, he mentioned how much he love her, while in this version they only come up with the ending/make it short/fun/remove sad scenes (too many shortcuts to make it Romantic Comedy). The original one is full of love and sadness but the story didn't finish because the author died before writing the ending of it. I've watch this Japanese ver because the author is a Japanese. I thought they will follow the orig story but they didn't. I think they make this ver different because they want the viewers see the "what ifs" happy ending of the orig story.
i cried so much in this episode. i pity kotoko in this episode, she always experience hard times cuz naoki can't express his feelings for her directly.
This is the reason why itazura na kiss was remade, to show the flaws in irie naoki (easily jealous, unable to express expressions, basically has low EQ ). Meanwhile, in all versions of Itazura na Kiss, Kotoko is always the one who has flaws. That's why I love this version 😍
@@zabumt7380 I India we can't even think of that Cousins are like REAL SIBLINGS you cant marry them in india And I guess it is also against the constitution of India
"Unlike you she can't do anything right but I love her power" who else love this dailouge from Naoki for Kotoko ❤️❤️ He knows that no matter what she will never leave him she isn't perfect or intelligent like other girl but she is ambitious and her never giving up spirit makes her unique than anyother girl💓💓
Naoki irritates from kotoko grabbing his hand always, but when it comes to another girls, he is not irritated. He always Insult notoko as well as his czn Insulting his wife, the way naoki and his czn talk, see each other is like they are flirting.
Unpopular Opinion: Their relationship was toxic but we all love a good looking actors/actresses & drama so it brushes that fact but nevertheless, it was toxic and suffocating. Imagine having a partner not reciprocating enough with your love, always dismisses your worries by calling you names, and is selfish. Those are RED FLAGS on a relationship. EDIT: It's not healthy but the naivety and forgiving personality of Kotoko helped jer a lot. If she was a lot more overthinking, all the problems of their relationship wouldn't be solved at all. She'll be constantly worrying while doubting Naoki.
FACT. But I think most fictional relationship are toxic. Have you seen "nevertheless" kdrama? I mean... people love toxic relationship of fictional characters so don't overthink hehe.
well I mean he's not like that all the time, he just has very low emotional intelligence. that's why I feel like they're relationship is hard to watch sometimes because he's just as equally naive as Kotoko.
I agree that their relationship is toxic, there are many signs and red flags. But if we look at the good side, they're actually perfect for each other. You see, Kotoko is a person with high EQ, but low IQ, and Irie is a person with high IQ, but low EQ (Incase some of you didn't know, IQ is like, how smart a person is and EQ is like how empathetic or emotional they are I think? pls just correct me if i'm wrong). When Kotoko has trouble with studying, or with life, irie helps her, and when Irie's having trouble expressing his feelings, Kotoko lets those feelings out, and she also makes him less cold. They fill up their shortcomings and help each other with things they can't do. Like Irie said in another ep, he can do 90% of things, but the other 10 percent of what he can't do, is what Kotoko can. That's why they're a great couple, but this is just my opinion, I'm not excusing the toxic behavior tho. But if you want a version of this drama that is less toxic, I recommend that you watch the Taiwanese version of Itazura na kiss/Mischievous kiss which is 'It started with a Kiss' and 'They kiss again', it's really really really good and it has more character development than in this Japanese version! You can also watch it here on yt :> But anyways this drama is just fiction, I hope we don't fight over this lmaoo
"Kotoko makes good coffee" omgggggg I remembered in season 1 that Kotoko makes coffee and gave it to Naoki and I can see that he likes her coffee so much! (I dont remember which episode hahahha)
I am really grossed out that Rita was so in love with her cousin ! I could never look at my cousins in that way NNNNEEVVVEERR. Yeah they are so smart , but their kids would have so many genetic problems
thats not true tho, so many cousins have kids together there is no genetics problem, it's literally only 1%. And everyone in general could have a 1% genetic problem.
I see a lot of people dissing Irie and calling his marriage with kotoko toxic I have to disagree. Irie is not a and has never been an expressive person. The only things he’s ever known are teasing coldness and sarcasm. Sure I agree he could be a little sweeter to her but you have to understand that both of them are different personalities. He needs time to learn how to express his love to kotoko does not mean he doesn’t love her. You have to understand both characters and not just sympathise with one. After all kotoko just burst into his life one day and from that day onwards all she did was push her feelings onto him with his mother breathing down his neck to choose her. He needed time to get to know and love her and when he did and said he wanted to marry her he wasn’t given the opportunity to even plan the wedding or chose anything or even wait to plan. So yes I agree Irie is cold doesn’t mean he doesn’t love her or that he is toxic. He’s just different and different isn’t bad
Thank you, I made a long paragraph down there because I live with a guy who is a bit like Naoki & I have enough of people judging this Kotoko Naoki dynamic
I really don't think this is how love should. I mean, this kind of love works on TV shows, but in real life?nahhhh, she would have got tired of naoki a loonng ago
I was in grade 6 when these series come out I'm rushing to go home every noon just to watch this, and now I'm in college, rewatching it and it's still giving me butterflies. Also, I realized that Kotoko is the standard, and Naoki is very blessed to have her in his life, I need Kotoko in my life but I'm a girl, and I would rather die than have Naoki in my life sorry but I can't live with that kind of man for a lifetime, I salute you Kotoko. We have a 1-week break so I have to finish this...
What a coincidence I'm currently in 6th grade and I was thinking about watching the next episode the entire day, Funny how many people are going through the same exciting experience
"But I love her power," I didn't understand those words at first, but Naoki is right. Kotoko is just like an unstoppable force when it comes to their relationship, and everything else too.
When Kotoko puts her mind and whole heart into something, she always achieves it. Her power is her persistence and her positivity no matter what. Naoki loves that about her.
Ikr! Maybe love is really blind, Kotoko is too obsessed with Naoki so that she doesn't care that much about how many tortures she got since the very beginning she confessed her feeling to Naoki untill they are married. She keep saying that Naoki is the best and perfect husband, I mean wtf, how you define 'perfect'? Just because he is good at anything and handsome? Eventho he has broken your heart for many times with his words and atittude? Keita is actually the best option for Kotoko so far
@@wd.firansalwasuri6874 Nah, Keita is a selfish homewrecker who made moves on an unavailable woman. Therefore no excuse he's the worst. Naoki is trying his best but obviously he won't do everything right or act how we want him too. This is his first relationship, the first time he's experiencing these things and learning for Kotoko's sake. Without her would've never been in these situations.
I appreciate her friends satomi and jinko in season 1 but idky i prefer her friends in season 2 more , the way the teamed up against kotoko is so funny and less awkward or annoying and its less embarrassing. plus they are actually giving her useful advices (i guess)) and tips to comfort her instead of giving her the wrong idea of what to do and ended up being embarrassed
i love this drama but what in the world!?!?! when rika said "more than me" and Naoki said "yes more than you" UMMM YOU GUYS ARE COUSINS THIS IS CRAZY! Ive rewatched this show so many times and as im growing up and maturing i realized that kin-chan was a better option. Naoki needs to communicate with Kotoko even more. And also you guys dont understand how many times I wanted to teleport into this drama and tell Rika off. Kotoko is so beautiful and amazing. I love her and in those moments in where she is feeling insercure I wish i was there to reasure her and tell her that shes so amazing.
Everyone is saying that Naoki does not suffer but he does. The difference between him and Kotoko is the fact that Kotoko is an extrovert and Naoki an introvert. Kotoko externalizes everything, their marital business, her feelings, her dreams, fantasies, etc on the other hand Naoki internalizes everything, he is constantly looking out for Kotoko and giving her proof that he loves her even when it is not easy for him to do so at all. Naoki is logical and she is completely sentimental, and even then he tries his best to listen to everything she has to say. My Dad is very very similar to Naoki, trust me when I tell you that my mom was the one chasing after him (just like Kotoko) and he is not very expressive with my mom in front of other people but definitely when they’re at home. I guess since Kotoko is such an immature and sentimental girl she tends to be insecure, it is hard for her to get a logical understanding of Naoki’s point of view. I consider myself to be very logical and let me tell you that I agree with Naoki when he said he did not really give her any reason to be insecure at least in their marriage. Some people are saying that he has to reassure her but that is not right,it does not matter how much someone tells you you’re worth it, if you do not believe it yourself it’s useless, that’s why Naoki told her that she needs to find purpose in other things other than him (in the last episode) he does have communication problems and also a short temper but just because she seems to be the victim every time does not make it true, this is narrated from Kotoko’s point of view which means everything is in relation to feelings but Naoki also suffers, it’s just way more difficult for him to show it. Tell me if you would not suffer for example, if your parent are pressuring you to follow a path they have already traced without asking you if you want that in the first place? If you’re mom is constantly meddling in everything and not letting you decide for yourself? If even though you have tried to show the person you love that you care about them by paying attention to the little things and getting out of your comfort zone as much as you can and even when you are married she doubts you? I would suffer honestly.
Exactly.... I agree.... This whole series were from kotoko's pov... But naoki suffered a lot too.... But since he's is introverted and coldblooded his pov is neglected most of the time.
Naoki isnt the only one thats the cause of Kotoko's suffering, Kotoko IS also a reason of her own suffering. She gets jealous too easily when they are literally married, she doesnt have enough trust in Naoki. The problem with Kotoko is confidence and trust in their relationship, she should take Keita's words that she shouldnt let Rika get too her, Naoki cant express his feelings and thats a problem, but Kotoko should know by now that Naoki loves her just as much. Irie was the one who proposed, they went on a honeymoon and remember that ending scene in the first ep of S2. He told her not to compare herself to Rika because they are nothing alike. No one can beat Kotoko's love for Naoki. Im still 20 minutes in this ep, but I feel like trust is lacking in their relationship
i mean if i were her and my husband is like him? i will be insecure he lever really showed her how me he loves her? he treats her badly like ofc she'll doubt herself she will always think that she is the problem while its him ofc the walking redflag naoki! she gives him to many chances and in the other hand he never did what kind of husband is that
@@aedoaa902 He doesn't treat her badly, he just not all over her but reassures her multiple times and shows his love. His love is just more subtle than her's.
@@birdiewolf3497 I call my fiance dum if he is and he calls me too that's what couples do. Kotoko doesn't seem bothered by it either, calls him cold hearted in return, it's pretty fair exchange and he only ever says it if she genuinely acts that way. I think in S2 so far as I remember he only said it once when he was helping her study but she didn't even pay attention.
@@sara1coco She is bothered by it. It is why she doesn't have a shred of self esteem/confidence. Idk me personally, I wouldn't call people names when I know they struggle with their self worth. Also newsflash she is not right to call him cold hearted. I know, groundbreaking news, but it's not okay to hurl insults at your partner just because they hurl insults at you. You don't get to punch your partner because they punch you and think that is a fair exchange. The point should be to remove punching altogether. And just like in ipv, even if both parties are violent, there is one party that is the instigator, and there is another who is reactive, and Naoki is the instigator. I mean even when things are "good" between them he is constantly insulting her. I need yall to be serious.
I sincerely hope to see kotoko completely ignoring naoki and naoki being very miserable, honestly kotoko is the prettiest of them all, she can dress more maturely though
She needs to take back her power. Ignore him like he does her and stop falling all over him every time he acknowledges you. She is pathetic. That’s why my mom always said don’t marry someone you love more than he loves you. It’s a disaster waiting to happen.
He is not entirely in love with just a coffee. He loves the way kotoko makes coffee for him. It became his comfort drink over the years. Whenever he's studying for a test , or just had a bad day at work , he always loves to drink kotoko's coffee. For him it was sort of their understanding to each other and how each of them shows love for one another. For him. Any other girl who makes the same coffee taste different if it wasn't brewed by kotoko herself.
Bro why cant he just suffer once? Its so unfair that kotoko have to suffer all the time and yet Naoki not doing anything to help her or even comfort her PR ANYTHING . We need S3 and make him suffer atleast once and we also want to see their relationship after AND THEIR KID❤❤❤❤
And when kotoko spoke back to Rika if it was her,she wouldn’t even go to America,the tear and the emotion are just so sad. I really like that part. She is really into her acting.🥺🥺
It's sad that both of them married directly when they did not know each other so deeply even they have feelings with each other, still I think that them being rushed getting married has a little good advantage.
That's practically what naoki said after he had registered his marriage to kotoko. When naoki explained why he doesn't want their marriage to be official yet was because he has so much to expect from them being a couple first before really getting married. He wants them to experience dating first before getting married because it would give them a chance to get to know each other more deeply. But he doesn't regret being married to her quite early. Considering kotoko's overthinking tendencies and the love rivals that may appear it's good that they have something to hold on to each other. And that's what makes him secure.
I think that no one is looking at Naoki's line "when have i ever given you a reason to doubt me?" from the perspective of: Naoki has NEVER pursued any girl EVER. The girls all throw themselves at him and not the other way around. Even during their honeymoon when that Mari girl said "i wish i wouldve met you before Kotoko" Naoki told her "if we had met 100 times i wouldve ignored you 100 times." So from that unique perspective, then he is 100% right. He has never given her a reason to doubt him. As in, Kotoko shoukd know he would never look/pursue any other woman except for Kotoko! He even had a reputation throughout High School and College that he never liked girls/relationships. So Kotoko should be more confident and he did in fact choose her and only her ❤
The thing I hate about Naoki is that he doesn't act up when girls go around him like what Mari-chan did he only gets mad when it already went to the worst-case scenario, and that's what makes Kotoko hurt and worry geez
The problem is that he is useful to random girls being around him but non of them ever respected his boundaries. He didn't know that wasn't okay but he realised it slowly especially after he was jealous over Keita and then let everyone know he is always married.
Last month, I remember spamming your community posts with requests to un-private episodes 5-16 of seasons 1 and 2. I thank myself for being this annoying because now you have it back! Thank you so much! Now I can sleep peacefully at night. Arigatou gozaimasu!
i know many people see naoki as a red flag but i always love whenever he tells people that kotoko is her wife. he never denies his marriage with kotoko
“aw i love him cause he does the bare minimum🥺🥺 imagine, he isn’t embarrassed by being married with his wife! How romantic🥰😱” sorry but what a pathetic mindset💀it’s a good drama but don’t sugarcoat it lmaooo
@@tofugabslife knowing naoki, it is really big of a deal for him to do the bare minimum. that's why we always call him red flag. we saw him as cold and not expressive with his feelings, seeing him do the bare minimum is shocking. based from his personality, i would really expect him to deny his marriage with kotoko. for sure, even kotoko doesn't expect naoki to tell people he is his wife. for her it is already a big deal. and this is just about the drama. this is not my mindset about relationship but this is about the little things that i noticed about this drama that is out of naoki's character.
@@tofugabslife It's essential, it shows how far Naoki has come, for him there's only Kotoko and he doesn't want anyone to think they have a chance. It's as if y'all forget that this is the guy who couldn't handle jealousy, indentify his emotions, nor understand his own feelings. He always needed to be told (autistic symptoms)
What's that "more than me..." conversation about??? So Irie-kun really did have feelings for Rika before he met Kotoko? They are messed up. Good thing Kotoko came into Irie-kun's life because he might marry his own cousin!! Hoho.
I prefer a jealous naoki more than a jealous Kotoko, but wait when he gets jealous instead of taking care of kotoko he behaves rudely.........oh god i don't know anything anymore.😶😶😑😑
I’m tired of people making excuses for naoki… this man compliments and smiles and empathizes with every female but his wife effortlessly … it’s not until he hurts her and she cries or runs away ,he solves everything with a kiss .. (I still haven’t forgotten how he allowed this leech on him the whole honeymoon and how he hurt kotoko and he still didn’t apologize.. he literally brushed it off and blamed her for making him worried for running off )Having a cold demeanor and being a genius doesn’t stop his brain from having the ability to be good to other women but it does to sprinkle a little for his wife ???! Kotoko is giddy but her husband is a Red Sea that we’ve just gotten used to
I'm so upset to see every time there is someone else interfering in there relationship, why do they make series where the husband will love his wife till the end. She's so young and innocent why put in pretty girls that is focused on them all the time ☹️
Why do i want kotoko to leave naoki even just one day because I'm the one who's getting tired of all she have done for naoki but i can't help I'm still here watching this even tho it makes my blood boil a lot!!!
Naoki has always been loyal, for him there's only Kotoko and Kotoko alone but Kotoko doesn't trust their relationship. He doesn't care about any other girl being in his business
You hate him and want him to suffer more but when he does something sweet to Kotoko YOU CAN'T HELP BUT SCREAM IN 😍😍😍😍😍🤣 This is a roller-coaster for us viewers too🤣
So true 😂😂 when he's cold we feel bad for kotoko even hate him but when he's even slightest warm and does/tell affectionate things...it's justtttt so cuteeeeeee.... Can't resist him 😂😂
I feel tried for kotoko seeing her trying so hard. She had one side love for naoki for 3 years and finally married him but still she can't have a rest...It would be more easier if naoki is being kind to her but he is all doing is nothing !!!!!
26:22 Kotoko with her hair down 🥰 naoki is really lucky. 41:06 What if Naoki said he's disgusted, bc kotoko clings to kikyo so much on that scene 😂 he's jealous!!!!
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“when did i ever give you a reason to doubt me?” SIR ALL THE TIMEEEEEE
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Lol ikr😂
I don't think so. Her cold personality, arrogant attitude and super-honesty are characteristics of him that she already knew before they became a couple. She knew his character perfectly, especially since they lived together, and yet she chose him over Kinnouske. It was her decision. Also, despite hating romantic things, hee occasionally makes an effort to make Kotoko feel loved. Finally, when Naoki says that he gave her no reason to distrust him, he means that he never crossed the line of politeness with another women and that's true.
@@angeleslicas5737 relationship goes both ways, missy is constantly doing her best for their relationship yet he only makes effort "occasionally", they're LITERALLY MARRIED it is not something you're supposed to glorify. and as people in the internet say nowadays, "the bar is really low" and "if he could, he would".
imagine the guy you like for so long say he "loves you" then proceeds to asks your father for your hand in marriage. then boom! now you're marrying the love of your life but then, weeks into the marriage he tells you he doesnt want to legalize your marriage yet.
Kotoko's character was designed to be dumb, an airhead, and every unpleasant adjective you can think of.
after a rollercoaster series of events plus her obsession towards naoki, do you think she'd think it through?
and pertaining to your last sentence, can't you see how insecure she is in their marriage? the doubt isnt just about him being close to a woman, its also about his love for kotoko.
Ikr, he has never even said his own wife beatiful, even for once. He never adores his wife, and he suddenly call another girl beautiful while hug her right in front of his wife. What does that mean anyway, he is always mean to his wife and good with other women
I feel so sorry for kotoko 😭, nobody appreciates her beauty except for the Naoki's mum and dad, and her dad . She deserves better friends and a better husband !!
Naoki appreciates her as a whole, for him she is perfect the way she is
U forgot kin n keita
Chris kin-chan and keita are amazing too
gurl SHES LIKE GORGEOUS GORGEOUS
@@princessstella6681 itsg she just need to act more mature😭😭😭😭
the reason why Kotoko gets jealous easily is because of Naoki's lack of assurance. it's also the reason why she doesn't have that much confidence. she deserves better treatment 🤷
right it must hurt for her but still she countinues on loving naoki
I agree that naoki indeed lacks assurance to his wife. But take note that he is unexpressive and although he tries to make it up with actions he seems to have trouble with the interaction with a person in a general phase. And because he has that handicapped. he was really thankful to kotoko for putting up with his shits
Exactly, i cannot handle Naoki's attitude lol 😭
@@yui380 there are people who really can't stand his attitude. I myself can't take his shits for much longer. Partly because our traits were somehow alike except that I wasn't just a silent girl in a corner minding my own business. I am usually a loud person and I express myself in a rather aggressive way if I must say. But kotoko can endure it. She was one of those rare people you meet once in your life who swallowed a lifetime of patience.
FRR
I just hope that Irie-kun will have another miserable moment because I have enough of seeing Kotoko suffering.
like she's always asking herself about naoki's feeling for him. I wish that too happen.
for real i hope it happens
Yasss
Yesss hopefully- Because I loved when it happened last time, especially when she was finally letting her stress and frstrations out by throwing stuff at him.
Ok right
Popular opinion : we all love the mother in law
She is the president of the fanclub
I like her but she's too controlling, she would've been perfect if she can give Kotoko and Irie some more space and more privacy.
Exactly
@@pdln I think she's controlling them because she was also insecure. She knew her son, her son is terrible... Although he's handsome and smart, she was afraid that kotoko would leave him and looking for other guy
@@EkaSetiawanNuebl yeah, I also appreciate her, but still, she should at least try to trust them and give them some space, they're adults now, they don't need guidance (but i have to admit, she's so funny sometimes)
Actually, Kotoko is prettier than all of the girls who have crush on Irie. She just need to act mature and modest.
FOR REAL THO OMFG
Yes
true
It's her style that makes her less attractive, but she's more attractive than naoki tho
@@roselyn1838 exactly
We hate him till dawn but once he acts dude he give me chills and butterflies 💀
Lmao same
So true
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hate to admit but same💀💀
@Ashley Cañaceli yess😅
seeing so many comments acknowledging the toxicity of this relationship and naoki's red flags just restores my faith in humanity
same girl
What's red flag🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️ dude's a red carpet
Exactly!!
@@poojagodbole8242 literally
this drama made me realize that there's a lot of things more important than love
El dinero
@@Mussotor😭😭😂🤣🤣
If you watch it closely, Kotoko never gets jealous without reason. For example, her nursing friends are all "fans" of Naoki, but Kotoko never gets jealous of them even when they act like fangirls and all or other girls that are fanning over her husband because she knows they "Admire" him, but they won't cross the line. She gets jealous of those girls she knows will cross that line of being a "fan" and straight-up flirt with her husband.
As for the line of Naoki, "When did I ever give you a reason to doubt me? I never have", because again, if you watch it while understanding not just Kotoko but also Naoki, Naoki is mostly polite and civil to most people that are not really part of his "inner circle." But with Kotoko and even with his mom, he acts "cold" Well, it sounds bullshit, but that's the real Naoki, and he shows that to the 2 women in his life. He acts like that with Rika because, technically, she is his cousin, and she is still young. And yes, he needs to work on assuring Kotoko, BUT Kotoko also needs to have confidence (like what NAoki said) that he chose her. I mean, the guy announced her as his wife to the media. Show himself as his husband to her classmates, and in the hospital, Naoki NEVER denies or tries to hide their marriage. In fact, he always makes sure new people around them know that fact. And Kotoko needs to see that as Naoki's way of assuring her; I mean, the guy grew up having it all; everyone looking up to him, he never had to explain himself, and he is working on that Kotoko also needs to see that.
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I agree with this
The way i am seeing their POVs exactly this way! 💯
this is exactly how i see everything 😭
Well said 💯
Imagine having to deal with this feeling of insecurity and jealousy because your partner has a lack of reassurance, it's really sad honestly I feel so sad for Kotoko she deserves better, Naoki always noticed that she felt this way yet he did nothing about it, it's really upsetting
literally for 6 years!!! and Naoki couldn't handle being jealous of Keita for a few days. yeah he might love her in his own way which is a weird way to love someone lmao but u r right he gives her zero reassurance and that's so much to bear for 6 years. like that is such a shitty feelings but yeah dramas heeh
@@sandrasalama3357 exactly I would honest hate to be in a relationship like that.
En la de Taiwán el padre de Kotoko le pega un puñetazo a Naoki por hacer sufrir a su hija, la verdad que en la de Taiwán Irie la trata mejor, y vemos cómo el la ama, lo demuestra de muchas maneras.
@@sandrasalama3357 happens in real life too!!
But even after being married for over 2 years she still calls him by his last name which isn't very assuring either. It also lacks affection, love and sincerity. Being called by their first name is reserved for family and your lover/spouse. Naoki calls her by her first name but she still ONLY calls him by his last which kind could be interpreted as she doesn't see him as her spouse/family. She addresses him like he is a random person and not her husband. If I were Naoki I would question her love too. She always says she loves him so much but not enough to address him more affectionately then she does any other person? Yes Naoki has his issues obviously but so does Kotoko. Let's not forget all the crazy and illegal things she did in her pursuit of Naoki. She's lucky he even married her honestly cause in real life I don't think anyone would fall in love or marry someone who blackmailed, harassed, stalked and spied on them. Oh and let's not forget waiting outside an apartment for 3 hours like a creepy pshyco just to see if he would come out. In real life she would have gotten jail time and not a marriage. Naoki's behaviors while cold, mean, hurtful and very frustrating were never illegal. And also Kotoko knew how he was before she married him like you said he has been like that for 6 years. She knew but she still chose to marry him so that's kind of on her. She could have given up and found someone better at anytime but she chose not to. She said no matter what happened she would keep loving Naoki.
When he said “Kotoko coffee” and “she makes good coffee” I feel so happy for her 😍
And it shows that Naoki is kinda addicted to her 😍
I remember when she first made him coffees he was IN LOVE with coffee😭😭😭
Honestly, if Kotoko knows how to cook, he would surely eat it and would only it it. Heh, boy he even eats hher omelette full of egg shells in the second episode of season 2.
@@kimiaconnections Coffee has been as much of a wingman as Naoki's mom. (≧▽≦)
He wanted Kotoko to make him some coffee for a couple of reasons. First, he was sending Rika a strong message that Kotoko was his special someone, and second, he knew that Kotoko was sad that he didn't like her burnt fish, so he wanted to make her feel better by making him some coffee, which he likes. Naoki is not stupid. He could see what Rika was trying to do to Kotoko.
I think it's also an Asian thing. For example, you can eat food cooked by someone else, but I've noticed that tea or coffee is usually a request made to our significant other
Maturing is actually realising naoki is lucky for having someone like kotoko always putting up with his nonsense and coldness towards her I would've left him long ago for kin chan
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same lol
Maturing is realising that they're both lucky to have each other and together they grew individually and as a couple. Without Naoki Kotoko wouldn't have achieved most of the things she did, neither be challenged. She obsessively stalked him, forced her feelings on him, meddled with his relationship.
Kinchan literally forced himself on Kotoko, wiretapped her conversations, caused troubles for her, meddled and obsessively stalked her, even followed her to university. Even Naoki is better than him.
@@sara1coco in what episode did kinchan wiretapped her conversations? I don't remember the scene. Kinchan is a bit obsessive and annoying.
the moment i saw Rika , i already felt the pain for Kotoko, istg even after fighting off Keita being all cool and realising his feelings, Naoki IS STILL FREAKIN COLD AND TREAT HER LIKE AAAAAAHHHHHHHH
FRRRR
His so cold to his own wife its not fair
I have no idea why but l always feel kotoko's pain it hurts so much 😢
I hate how he never explains to kotoko why he does things, he’s not willing to properly communicate with her so she doesn’t misunderstand and get hurt. All he does is comfort or kiss her after the damage has been done, all because he knows kotoko love him a lot and would not leave him...
It's so manipulative 😩
He has to suffer more✊🏼
Have you ever thought he doesn't explain because he doesn't understand? I honestly think this version of the character is a high functioning autistic. He loves her that's all he understands, he doesn't have 6+ years of experience like she does or the other guy she rejected. He's as immature as she is in some ways.
SOMEONE PLEASE TELL HIM!! A KISS DOESN'T SOLVE EVERYTHING!!! GOD HAVE GIVEN YOU A MOUTH! NOT JUST TO KISS BUT TO SPEAK AS WELL!!USE IT BASTARD!!! TELL HER HOW YOU FEEL !!
AGREE!! AT FIRST IT'S OKAY TO ME SINCE THAT'S HIS REAL PERSONALITY BUT RN I JUST REALIZED THAT HE'S SO FUCKING NARCISSISTIC
Your comment is perfect 😂😌
this made me laugh hahhahahha your reaction is so relatable
lmaoooo i loved this
fr istg
Naoki is really unbearable. Kotoko is always hurt because of him. In their relationship she always have to sacrifice and understand him. I just feel sorry for her, she deserves better honestly.
Ikr!! Kotoko deserve Kin-chan more tbh!!😭But irie and kotoko just made for each other🤣
@@cherrymilk8358 IKR!! WHAT A LUCKY GUY!!😅
Finally somebody has the same thought as me!! He’s so freaking toxic😭😭😭kotoko definitly deserve better
@@nurannisanatsircaronge9621he really is toxic. If you watched the anime, it’s a known fact. He kinda became okay towards the end but an a*s all throughout. He got milder here in the live action plus the actor is quite cute😂 so you can somehow accept the red flags.😂 I also think it’s the mother’s fault even if she is funny. They should have let those 2 date first, that’s why he became so bad in everyone’s eyes when all his bad qualities are still there when already married. Guy insisted on tying her down via proposal w/o even going on dating stage and the mother rushed it. Kotoko on the other hand is just blindly in love tho, she didn’t even object with the proposal lol he let him get his way. What she’s doing is actually gonna be so bad in real life tho
When naoki snapped at kotoko because she pushed rika, and she just crying alone. I want to hug kotoko so bad🥺
He's mad because she is buying her claims. Although I cannot justify that what he did was the right thing. But after she comes home really drunk looking dejected and rika saw them in the living room. He dropped the bomb to rika. Although he apologises in behalf of his wife immaturity he made her feel that she deserves it because she provokes her that shows she has no respect for their marriage. When rika tried to explain her side naoki turns around not letting him hear her excuses.
"I chose you. Have more confidence" UGGHHH THIS MAN I CAN'T
😍😍😍😍😍
Sometimes "actions are louder than words" isn't the best thing. Sometimes you need to have a proper conversation and talk. Communication is important, saying words to comfort you partner is important. Comfort from a kiss will last only a while but saying things directly will help your relationship long-term. Sometimes it's important to say I love you instead of just surprising her sometimes. I get that he's a tsundere but I also thought he was supposed a genius. A genius would know the IMPORTANCE OF COMMUNICATION!!!!!!!!!!! I honestly love kotoko and she's just so adorable. I can list down so many good things about her and how she's a better person than naoki. Her friends are pathetic. They only make her more insecure but look good because of some good gestures they do, completely normal for a human being to do in a society.
When he said. " Don't compare yourself to her cause you'll be depressed". Is actually his way of saying to her that he hopes she doesn't compare her status to him and his relationship to Rika. Afterall they are married. If she constantly feel insecure over her she'll be depressed everytime , which he doesn't like because his relationship to Rika and their relationship is different in so many ways. She and him are married. They attend the same school , slept on a same bed , eats breakfast on the same table every morning , got an official wedding and honeymoon , had sex once or thrice. Basically all the things married couples do. Plus they have been married for nearly 2 and a half years. Aside from that they had a foundation before they got married. Though they never had sex before they got married. They still have the intimacy like any other couple. While Rika on the other hand is naoki's childhood companion and cousin. I am sure he is aware of her feelings for him even before. Partly the reason why Rika said she had forced his way on to him when she dramatized about their first kiss. Even that kiss she was referring to wasn't naoki's initiation. Unlike when he's with kotoko before. Even with all the over expressions , naoki didn't let her make the first move when it comes to the highest intimacy. I mean he always do the first move when he's in the mood to roll over with kotoko in bed hahahaha
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@@thehalo_effect thank you. Most of the series Viewers , missunderstood naoki's perspective and I don't blame them since the story is written on kotoko's point of view. But to naoki when he said ; when did I ever gave you reason to doubt me ? I never did . " It's just because he never even considered any other girl than her. Just as he doesn't want her to like any other man aside from him , he also refrains himself from other girls with her exception. Rika is in special case because he grew up with her plus she's his cousin. For him there's no way he would fall in love with a girl very similar to his attitude. Girls who are drooling over him were just fascinated with his looks and his intelligence but they didn't really want to have a long time or a serious relationship with him. While kotoko only wants her husband's attention and affection.
This comment made it look that naoki is really a green flag at some point hehehe
finally I saw a on point comment that I want to say but can't explain it fully.
@@sarahbonita9741 well they both have negative sides. Naoki problem was his cold exterior and very blunt attitude. He doesn't sugar coat his words. What's bad is bad and what's good is good but he's more likely deep when it comes to understanding the context of love in general than his wife. Kotoko on the other hand , has problems with his over expression and guliable attitude. On the outside it looks cute but looking at the aspects of it , it's actually pretty unhealthy because she's dependent on naoki. A woman must have dreams and goals for herself other than her love for anyone else. But for kotoko. She puts naoki in a pedestal to the point where she had depended her whole life on what he's going to do moving forward. But setting that attitudes of them aside. They compliments each other. And what each other lacks makes up from one another. That's the basic foundation of marriage. Harmony. They understand each other in a way only both of them recognize. That's the reason why kotoko never leave naoki's side. Because her love is genuine and she understands him in a way. Which naoki reciprocated with his loyalty towards her and him being patient to her every mistakes
Not him trying to gaslight us saying “when did I ever give reason to doubt me” literally this WHOLE season this man has made me doubt him every single time
He always reassured Kotoko, it can only be her
@@sara1coco yes it can always be her but the things he dose and says makes her and everyone have doubts about him
@@camryn007 No it's Kotoko's trust in their relationship that's lacking, honestly if I were Naoki I'd be a little mad at that. She keeps thinking he'd go for anyone despite him telling her it's only her, no one and that she's good the way she is
@@sara1coco I mean I would have little trust in Naoki if I was kotoko too. This whole show she was the one putting in the effort no matter what the situation was and yeah he did care for her you could see that but he never really showed it to her, unless she was sleeping or drunk. So you would think that she would probably wouldn’t have trust in him but she did at some points. But if you want to see it that way then by all means you do you
@@camryn007 Why, he iniated all the physical touches, fulfilled a lot of her wishes, reassured her multiple times, just because he isn't all over her, doesn't mean his love is less meaningful. He showed his love multiple times, even confessed to her infront of everyone. His love is just more subtle than hers and that's why they're perfect for another. It was good that they faced this issue bc Kotoko needed to learn to trust him and the relationship.
i want a mother-in-law like her she is so supportive
Naoki is so lucky to have Kotoko, but he taken her for granted.
Keita was the only one who made sense. Stand your ground. When other man challenged your husband her was confident in your love. Even after one pep talk.
Naoki only suffered from being jealous in just 2 episodes while Kotoko suffered from him for 6 years even though they were married Kotoko suffered the most. I don't know why you guys keep saying that Kotoko is lucky to have him, when in fact that Naoki is lucky to have her, it's very rare to find someone like her irl, someone like her who knows to wait and understand everything she maybe dumb but she has guts. And to tell you honestly, in real life Naoki's personality is a walking red flag and he's lucky to have Kotoko who understand and bear everything he did! If this is irl no one can bear it.
We know that there's a deep message that the writer wants to tell us but what the hell, you guys made Kotoko's personality stupid. Imagine she burst out on Episode 6 but after Naoki said that he needs her she became okay and Naoki is back with his cold blooded heart. Seriously, you made Kotoko's life circus and stupid. 🤦🏻♂️
Because both are lucky to have each other without Naoki, Kotoko would've never came this far, nor found her dream or been challenged. You shouldn't forget that she's his obsessive stalker who forced her love on him and meddled with his relationships. Neither are perfect but Naoki's willing to learn and work on it for her. In real life Naoki would be better than Kotoko bc we'd call the police.
I agree with you
I agree
Naoki didn't even suffer from his jealousy coz he treated kotoko the worst. But coming from him, he didn't know coz the feelings is new to him. He's confused but didn't even say sorry after he realized everything.
I don't know why they're making only Kotoko to suffer for him . I don't know japanese coz I,m an Indian but still by visuals I could understand each and every thing (instead of what there talking clearly)
EVERYTIME THERE'S A EPISODE LIKE THIS, I WATCH THE BEHIND THE SCENE SO I'LL FEEL A LITTLE BIT BETTER 😭😭
where do u watch the behind the scenes?!!
Kotoko is so modest like why are you apologising when she threw your wedding photo to the ground, I’ll go on a rampage bro 💀
Thanks to naoki he made her feel like that she did wrong but idc if Rika is a kid like then she should have act like a kid
GOD, GIVE KOTOKO A BREAK!! WHY IS SHE THE ONLY ONE WHO'S ALWAYS SUFFERING AND GETTING HURT!? I WANTED THIS TO BE MY COMFORT SHOW BUT NAOKI IS TOO MUCH. AFTER EVERY PROBLEM SOLVED, THERE IS ANOTHER ONE. SHE ACTUALLY NEVER HAD A RIGHT APOLOGY SHE DESERVES. SHE SUFFERED A LOT YET SHE NEVER GOT ENOUGH APOLOGY OR TREATMENT FROM HIM. LET THAT GIRL REST! I LOVE THE CHARACTERS, THE VIBE, HOW THEY ACT, BASICALLY EVERYTHING BUT NAOKI! CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT WHEN??? THE RELATIONSHIP IS ACTUALLY TOXIC. I FEEL BAD FOR KOTOKO, SHE'S ALWAYS THE ONE WHO'S SUFFERING AND PUTTING A LOT OF EFFORT. EVEN IF NAOKI IS THE ONE WHO HURT HER, SHE'S STILL THE FIRST ONE WHO'S TRYING TO MAKE UP OR APOLOGIZE TO HIM. CAN HE ATLEAST BRING DOWN HIS PRIDE ONCE FOR HER? OR ATLEAST HAVE A BIT OF CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT?? IM TRYING TO UNDERSTAND AND JUST IGNORR IT BUT IT'S TOO MUCH FOR KOTOKO. SHE ACTUALLY DESERVES BETTER. BUT I'LL STILL CONTINUE TO WATCH IT ANYWAY, IM STILL HAVING FUN WATCHING THIS BEC OF OTHER CHARACTERS AND MORE
Right?! Can't believe that they can tolerate everything Naoki did to Kotoko, can't believe that his Cousin has a crush on him and kissed her when in the first place its very wrong since they've the same blood. How can they tolerate that they should've been give any lessons to her. Naoki suffered only 2 episodes like its so unfair every episodes from season 1 and 2 Kotoko suffered a lot. Where's the character development of Naoki? I hate it the fact that they're married but still has the guts to let other girls flirt with him when he already know that Kotoko has that kind of feelings. 🤦🏻♂️
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They have been married for 2 1/2 years and Kotoko is the only one giving their marriage 100% and its bit embarrassing sometimes to see how Naoki treats her.
@ria wasn't he forced to kiss her or smth😭 either way its not the same with naoki and kotoko, naoki always makes the first move with kotoko whereas the other girls have to make the first move with him. but kotoko does deserve better, he's not assuring her properly and it's really irritating especially because they're married. Naoki needs to know that he's responsible for Kotoko's feelings towards him, Naoki needs to express his feelings more to really make it seem like he does love her. Though the way he acts around her is cruel and shows no mercy im sure he loves her just as much as she does because he gets to act more like himself when hes with her and that makes him really comfortable, he's usually always smiling when Kotoko's being clumsy too. now i can assure you that he doesn't smile often with others but his wife
If I were kotoko... I would've divorced him long ago... IT'S LITERALLY TOO MUCH TO BEAR!!!
Ikr!! She's just suffering for no reason! Tbh kin chan was much better
Ikr if it was me i would have divorced him and go with keita instead
I might think twice about accepting marriage with him lol love story like this is very tiring.
me too it's to much
If I were Kotoko, I would have given up on him after rejecting my love letter and go for Kin-chan instead
35:18 No matter how many times I rewatched this already, I always like that this Kotoko version is good at making coffee.
If they remake season 3 ,may there are antigonist for Naoki ,because it was Kotoko who has many rivals and she's the one who suffered the most .I want to see Naoki crying for Kotoko.
there is no S3 even in other ver. of other countries because the author died before writing the end of S2
@@nielleneth omg...
@@nielleneth I don't understand..who wrote the original anime is dead? Or did the screenwriter of the series die?..
@@BGrey_ the writer of the manga
If there will be S3, maybe they should ask permission again to his husband (last 2010 S3 of Taiwan ver has been rumored "The Last Kiss" but it didn't happen)
I do realize that, every time people know Naoki and Kotoko are married, she gets backhanded insults most of the time, even straight up insults.
This is literally the last straw. The way Naoki complimented Rika in the beginning while her tightly hugging him made me so mad. He never did that to Kotoko, he never said she’s beautiful face to face and with that type of stare. Poor kotoko. Secondly, the way he yelled at Kotoko?!!!!! WTF WAS THAT. He didn’t even choose to listen to her side and he was there when the conflict started, he also knew in the first place that Rika still has feelings for him. The way he left Kotoko alone being hurt sickens the hell out of me. If he really doesn’t care about her, he could’ve been cold to her just like what he was/is to Kotoko.
And also, the final scene where Kotoko and Rika confronted each other. Why the hell did he just stood there and watch them argue? What the hell was that? Isn’t he suppose to defend his wife and stop the argument and clear out the whole situation. In addition, The way he was looking at Rika when she was about to leave was something else for me… When Rika said that she will find a man better looking than Naoki.. Naoki’s face was dull. Then, when Rika looked at them for the last time, the way Naoki was staring lovingly is so disgusting to me! What kind of man is he really? I don’t know anymore, but to me. He is a jerk.
Naoki told Kotoko to stay they way she is because she's perfect for him. Kotoko is an adult, I agree that he shouldn't have shouted but she wasn't acting her age. He knew she was right and told Rika off once he realisef what was going on. He also trusted Kotoko to show why it can only be her not anyone else that's why he didn't meddle
Naoki's reaction after learning rika's return was like a brotherly affection towards his sister that he haven't seen for so long. It's normal to feel happy or to compliment them. That has nothing to do with how naoki behaves when around kotoko. If you noticed on the later episodes. Naoki shows more of his romantic side when their alone together. And even when their out on public or in school kotoko became overly clingy which naoki responded with just a normal poker face expression. Just like what naoki said after kotoko's argument to Rika. he choose her , and he hopes she gained confidence bearing his surname and her title as his wife. He wants her to act her age and be a good role model so Rika won't be surprised why she choose her as her wife. But then her playful imagination get the best of her that's why she's thinking about unimportant thoughts. Although naoki is to blame for his lack of reassurance. Kotoko should have confidence on herself as a wife too.
I get naoki's perspective on this episode. For him there Is no way he would replace kotoko just to marry Rika. Nothing had happened between them even before he meet kotoko. And it's even more impossible now that's his married. For him he doesn't need to explain himself over and over again because confidence comes within the person first before others could see that in you. I hope you got my point po.
@@zylamortienio7437 Yeah and Naoki was kinda right, Kotoko needed to learn to trust him and behave like an adult. Rika is literally a 16 year old teen, not to forget his cousin. I know it's legal in Japan but why would he leave her for Rika? Really. After rewatching I realised that he was actually often but didn't communicate well
@@sara1coco I respect your insights.. Now i do understand. I’m just super anti-men AHAAHHAHAHA JK! I do love Naoki. This is my all time favorite jdrama 💖
@@zylamortienio7437 I highly appreciate this.. i understand your point of view 🤍
it still breaks me how kotoko does not have a chance to speak up for herself. we all know how that picture means to her since she used it to cheer her up but it seems so easy to rika and naoki to ignore that fact.
Naoki is literally a walking Red Flag and she still pursued him and is still pursuing him when they’re alr married lmao
Kotoko is one too she obsessively stalked him, forced her feelings/love on a guy who was minding his business, meddled with all his relationships, blackmailed him etc-
@@sara1coco uhm ma'am? that was the plot?? and naoki actually likes that she's obsessed with him only???
@@sara1coco Oh my gosh. At this point, you should get a life instead of trying to defend Naoki in every comment. You don’t have to bring Kotoko up every time somebody discuss Naoki’s bad traits. We get it girl. Kotoko has some red flags too. Both Naoki and Kotoko have bad traits, so just let the people talk about them.
@@lovelee750 Oh my gosh, this is hypocritical. I watched it and left some comments/impressions months ago (then moved but u brought me back) which you are doing under several too. Unlike most of you, I simply pointed out that both are redflags, toxic and their equal wrongdoings not just Naoki as people make it look like in every comment. It's a very onesided discussion in my eyes so no not everyone "got it", most are pretending that Kotoko (and angel Kinchan) didn't have any (as the comment above proves) bc they're more expressive and easy to read unlike naoki. For me both were toxic, they acted wrong (so no I'm not defending him) but together they grew into a healthy couple as the show progressed and it's good they phased these issues to reach an understanding. Hope you can now move on with your life.
@@lovelee750 Also pls take your own advice, get a life instead of being offended over fictional toxic characters and "let ppl talk about them" (plus their bad traits), last time I checked I am human. I like discussions 🙏
How can the whole family be so indifferent to such awful comments and actions of a girl towards a married man and his wife?
I would literally make her leave the first day itself.
She doesn't deserve all that good treatment.
I hate girls like Rika. Uhhhh.
Poor , sweet Kotoko!
It's true. Respectfully, no one could ever love Noaki as much Kotoko. But Kotoko, girlllll, couldn't blame you but you deserve more. 😩
I wanna see Naoki cry, it's always Kotoko. I feel bad for her.
How many damned love rivals are there? When do we actually get to see him treating his wife with love openly? Why are they always putting the FL down and degrading her?
Thank you! I just noticed how many love rivals are in this drama. I love a good love triangle but this is more like a love octagon at this point 😂
When one stops, another comes. It's getting pretty annoying. he doesn't show his love much too. she's the only one expressing love and worrying...
@@ariuvee ikr it's so annoying
i wish there was a point where he suffers way more
@@jilliandeleon6153 I suggest "It Started with a Kiss" and "They Kiss Again", it was another remake just like Playful Kiss, Miss in Kiss, Kiss Me and this one Mischievous Kiss (I swear, it was the best version because it was full of details) You will understand the male lead's love to his wife there because it has a longer episode and they followed the original ending of it wherein there's a possibility that she will be blind and their future children might inherit it, the male lead even said to her that she's the reason why he is the happiest man in the world and even beg her not to leave him. In that ver, he mentioned how much he love her, while in this version they only come up with the ending/make it short/fun/remove sad scenes (too many shortcuts to make it Romantic Comedy).
The original one is full of love and sadness but the story didn't finish because the author died before writing the ending of it. I've watch this Japanese ver because the author is a Japanese. I thought they will follow the orig story but they didn't. I think they make this ver different because they want the viewers see the "what ifs" happy ending of the orig story.
@@nielleneth love playful kiss it good show
i cried so much in this episode. i pity kotoko in this episode, she always experience hard times cuz naoki can't express his feelings for her directly.
This is the reason why itazura na kiss was remade, to show the flaws in irie naoki (easily jealous, unable to express expressions, basically has low EQ ). Meanwhile, in all versions of Itazura na Kiss, Kotoko is always the one who has flaws. That's why I love this version 😍
Pov : Every girl deserves kotoko's mother in law and Every men like naoki doesn't deserve a women like kotoko
Are we all gonna ignore the fact that Rika liked Naoki? Their cousins?!?
the only place in which marriage between cousins is considered taboo is in western society
@@Irene-px7vu not anymore i think..
@@zabumt7380 I India we can't even think of that
Cousins are like REAL SIBLINGS
you cant marry them in india
And I guess it is also against the constitution of India
it's normal in many countries
also the fact that shes in high school and naioki is an adult and she thinks she has a chance
"Unlike you she can't do anything right but I love her power" who else love this dailouge from Naoki for Kotoko ❤️❤️ He knows that no matter what she will never leave him she isn't perfect or intelligent like other girl but she is ambitious and her never giving up spirit makes her unique than anyother girl💓💓
Naoki irritates from kotoko grabbing his hand always, but when it comes to another girls, he is not irritated. He always Insult notoko as well as his czn Insulting his wife, the way naoki and his czn talk, see each other is like they are flirting.
Unpopular Opinion: Their relationship was toxic but we all love a good looking actors/actresses & drama so it brushes that fact but nevertheless, it was toxic and suffocating. Imagine having a partner not reciprocating enough with your love, always dismisses your worries by calling you names, and is selfish. Those are RED FLAGS on a relationship.
EDIT: It's not healthy but the naivety and forgiving personality of Kotoko helped jer a lot. If she was a lot more overthinking, all the problems of their relationship wouldn't be solved at all. She'll be constantly worrying while doubting Naoki.
FACT. But I think most fictional relationship are toxic. Have you seen "nevertheless" kdrama? I mean... people love toxic relationship of fictional characters so don't overthink hehe.
well I mean he's not like that all the time, he just has very low emotional intelligence. that's why I feel like they're relationship is hard to watch sometimes because he's just as equally naive as Kotoko.
Yes I was just thinking this!
I agree that their relationship is toxic, there are many signs and red flags. But if we look at the good side, they're actually perfect for each other. You see, Kotoko is a person with high EQ, but low IQ, and Irie is a person with high IQ, but low EQ (Incase some of you didn't know, IQ is like, how smart a person is and EQ is like how empathetic or emotional they are I think? pls just correct me if i'm wrong). When Kotoko has trouble with studying, or with life, irie helps her, and when Irie's having trouble expressing his feelings, Kotoko lets those feelings out, and she also makes him less cold. They fill up their shortcomings and help each other with things they can't do. Like Irie said in another ep, he can do 90% of things, but the other 10 percent of what he can't do, is what Kotoko can. That's why they're a great couple, but this is just my opinion, I'm not excusing the toxic behavior tho. But if you want a version of this drama that is less toxic, I recommend that you watch the Taiwanese version of Itazura na kiss/Mischievous kiss which is 'It started with a Kiss' and 'They kiss again', it's really really really good and it has more character development than in this Japanese version! You can also watch it here on yt :> But anyways this drama is just fiction, I hope we don't fight over this lmaoo
@@pdln I’ve been hearing that the Taiwanese version is the best so I’m definitely going to check it out after I finish this one!
26:26 Kotoko looks sooo pretty with her hair down 😍
And they hardly ever used it...
@@BGrey_ fr I get annoyed when I see her with her ponytails😭
@@Becca.aaa06 me too 😒
@@Becca.aaa06 fr
ikrrr, she looks morr matured
27:26 she's really beautiful, i don't understand why everyone calls her ugly
"Kotoko makes good coffee" omgggggg I remembered in season 1 that Kotoko makes coffee and gave it to Naoki and I can see that he likes her coffee so much! (I dont remember which episode hahahha)
“The best husband in the world”
GIRL WHERE-
LITERALLY LIKE GIRL---
LIKE LITERALLY WHERE?
I am really grossed out that Rita was so in love with her cousin ! I could never look at my cousins in that way NNNNEEVVVEERR. Yeah they are so smart , but their kids would have so many genetic problems
it made it so hard to watch i swear 😭
it's gross they're cousins and she's like this with him😭😭😭
thats not true tho, so many cousins have kids together there is no genetics problem, it's literally only 1%. And everyone in general could have a 1% genetic problem.
also she was in 5th grade when he was in high school?? that part grossed me out so bad
@@itsfancy8408 that still doesn’t make it right tho…
My mom and dad are cousins 🏃
I love naoki’s language instead of saying “i love you kotoko”
He would say “kotoko, coffee.”😭😭🫶🏻
I see a lot of people dissing Irie and calling his marriage with kotoko toxic I have to disagree. Irie is not a and has never been an expressive person. The only things he’s ever known are teasing coldness and sarcasm.
Sure I agree he could be a little sweeter to her but you have to understand that both of them are different personalities. He needs time to learn how to express his love to kotoko does not mean he doesn’t love her. You have to understand both characters and not just sympathise with one.
After all kotoko just burst into his life one day and from that day onwards all she did was push her feelings onto him with his mother breathing down his neck to choose her. He needed time to get to know and love her and when he did and said he wanted to marry her he wasn’t given the opportunity to even plan the wedding or chose anything or even wait to plan.
So yes I agree Irie is cold doesn’t mean he doesn’t love her or that he is toxic. He’s just different and different isn’t bad
Thank you, I made a long paragraph down there because I live with a guy who is a bit like Naoki & I have enough of people judging this Kotoko Naoki dynamic
People should realize that people with low EQ like Irie do exist 🤷♀️
yes!!!! w commenter
He treats her like crap!! Instead building her confidence, he continues to belittle her.
True that mf. Go to hell.
He didn't, he didn't want Kotoko to compare herself to Rika because she's perfect the way she is. She doesn't need to change anything.
cold people are like that though? you can't speak without knowing
I can think of a thousand ways he could have handled that better.
I really don't think this is how love should. I mean, this kind of love works on TV shows, but in real life?nahhhh, she would have got tired of naoki a loonng ago
I mean, this is a drama 😂
Everything is possible in Dramaworld.., and they are made up of scripts & actors/actresses!😉
I was in grade 6 when these series come out I'm rushing to go home every noon just to watch this, and now I'm in college, rewatching it and it's still giving me butterflies. Also, I realized that Kotoko is the standard, and Naoki is very blessed to have her in his life, I need Kotoko in my life but I'm a girl, and I would rather die than have Naoki in my life sorry but I can't live with that kind of man for a lifetime, I salute you Kotoko.
We have a 1-week break so I have to finish this...
What a coincidence I'm currently in 6th grade and I was thinking about watching the next episode the entire day, Funny how many people are going through the same exciting experience
It gives me chills everytime he shows his feelings 🤧
That’s the dose after withdrawal. He is toxic
Kotoko is such a strong woman tho, if I was her, I perhaps can't hold that kind of husband, he is too cold and don't show any expressions :)
"But I love her power," I didn't understand those words at first, but Naoki is right. Kotoko is just like an unstoppable force when it comes to their relationship, and everything else too.
When Kotoko puts her mind and whole heart into something, she always achieves it. Her power is her persistence and her positivity no matter what. Naoki loves that about her.
Please I beg of you divorce this man. Because if u stay
he wont know how it feels to lose u😭😭😢
Tbh i prefer keita than naoki i mean they both got looks and brains why not go to a guy who has better personality😭
Ikr! Maybe love is really blind, Kotoko is too obsessed with Naoki so that she doesn't care that much about how many tortures she got since the very beginning she confessed her feeling to Naoki untill they are married. She keep saying that Naoki is the best and perfect husband, I mean wtf, how you define 'perfect'? Just because he is good at anything and handsome? Eventho he has broken your heart for many times with his words and atittude? Keita is actually the best option for Kotoko so far
@@wd.firansalwasuri6874 Nah, Keita is a selfish homewrecker who made moves on an unavailable woman. Therefore no excuse he's the worst. Naoki is trying his best but obviously he won't do everything right or act how we want him too. This is his first relationship, the first time he's experiencing these things and learning for Kotoko's sake. Without her would've never been in these situations.
I appreciate her friends satomi and jinko in season 1 but idky i prefer her friends in season 2 more , the way the teamed up against kotoko is so funny and less awkward or annoying and its less embarrassing. plus they are actually giving her useful advices (i guess)) and tips to comfort her instead of giving her the wrong idea of what to do and ended up being embarrassed
i love this drama but what in the world!?!?! when rika said "more than me" and Naoki said "yes more than you" UMMM YOU GUYS ARE COUSINS THIS IS CRAZY! Ive rewatched this show so many times and as im growing up and maturing i realized that kin-chan was a better option. Naoki needs to communicate with Kotoko even more. And also you guys dont understand how many times I wanted to teleport into this drama and tell Rika off. Kotoko is so beautiful and amazing. I love her and in those moments in where she is feeling insercure I wish i was there to reasure her and tell her that shes so amazing.
Everyone is saying that Naoki does not suffer but he does. The difference between him and Kotoko is the fact that Kotoko is an extrovert and Naoki an introvert. Kotoko externalizes everything, their marital business, her feelings, her dreams, fantasies, etc on the other hand Naoki internalizes everything, he is constantly looking out for Kotoko and giving her proof that he loves her even when it is not easy for him to do so at all. Naoki is logical and she is completely sentimental, and even then he tries his best to listen to everything she has to say. My Dad is very very similar to Naoki, trust me when I tell you that my mom was the one chasing after him (just like Kotoko) and he is not very expressive with my mom in front of other people but definitely when they’re at home. I guess since Kotoko is such an immature and sentimental girl she tends to be insecure, it is hard for her to get a logical understanding of Naoki’s point of view. I consider myself to be very logical and let me tell you that I agree with Naoki when he said he did not really give her any reason to be insecure at least in their marriage. Some people are saying that he has to reassure her but that is not right,it does not matter how much someone tells you you’re worth it, if you do not believe it yourself it’s useless, that’s why Naoki told her that she needs to find purpose in other things other than him (in the last episode) he does have communication problems and also a short temper but just because she seems to be the victim every time does not make it true, this is narrated from Kotoko’s point of view which means everything is in relation to feelings but Naoki also suffers, it’s just way more difficult for him to show it. Tell me if you would not suffer for example, if your parent are pressuring you to follow a path they have already traced without asking you if you want that in the first place? If you’re mom is constantly meddling in everything and not letting you decide for yourself? If even though you have tried to show the person you love that you care about them by paying attention to the little things and getting out of your comfort zone as much as you can and even when you are married she doubts you? I would suffer honestly.
Exactly.... I agree.... This whole series were from kotoko's pov... But naoki suffered a lot too.... But since he's is introverted and coldblooded his pov is neglected most of the time.
IS NO ONE GONNA TALK ABOUT THE COFFEE PART AT 35:10 AAAAAAHHHHH
THATS THEIR THING 😭💖
Maybe it's Kotoko's charm..
She can't cook, but can make good coffee..
I liked that his mother told him that he maybe said something mean to her, it can be an eye opener to him. 39:24
the way Kikyo loves naoki but still respects kotoko’s relationship with him. I love her friends in this season😭
I am crying for kotoko in every episode
Naoki is just too much🥶
Naoki isnt the only one thats the cause of Kotoko's suffering, Kotoko IS also a reason of her own suffering. She gets jealous too easily when they are literally married, she doesnt have enough trust in Naoki. The problem with Kotoko is confidence and trust in their relationship, she should take Keita's words that she shouldnt let Rika get too her, Naoki cant express his feelings and thats a problem, but Kotoko should know by now that Naoki loves her just as much. Irie was the one who proposed, they went on a honeymoon and remember that ending scene in the first ep of S2. He told her not to compare herself to Rika because they are nothing alike. No one can beat Kotoko's love for Naoki. Im still 20 minutes in this ep, but I feel like trust is lacking in their relationship
i mean if i were her and my husband is like him? i will be insecure he lever really showed her how me he loves her? he treats her badly like ofc she'll doubt herself she will always think that she is the problem while its him ofc the walking redflag naoki! she gives him to many chances and in the other hand he never did what kind of husband is that
@@aedoaa902 He doesn't treat her badly, he just not all over her but reassures her multiple times and shows his love. His love is just more subtle than her's.
@@sara1coco Lol he regularly calls her stupid. Y'all would let your man do that?
@@birdiewolf3497 I call my fiance dum if he is and he calls me too that's what couples do. Kotoko doesn't seem bothered by it either, calls him cold hearted in return, it's pretty fair exchange and he only ever says it if she genuinely acts that way. I think in S2 so far as I remember he only said it once when he was helping her study but she didn't even pay attention.
@@sara1coco She is bothered by it. It is why she doesn't have a shred of self esteem/confidence. Idk me personally, I wouldn't call people names when I know they struggle with their self worth. Also newsflash she is not right to call him cold hearted. I know, groundbreaking news, but it's not okay to hurl insults at your partner just because they hurl insults at you. You don't get to punch your partner because they punch you and think that is a fair exchange. The point should be to remove punching altogether. And just like in ipv, even if both parties are violent, there is one party that is the instigator, and there is another who is reactive, and Naoki is the instigator. I mean even when things are "good" between them he is constantly insulting her. I need yall to be serious.
I sincerely hope to see kotoko completely ignoring naoki and naoki being very miserable, honestly kotoko is the prettiest of them all, she can dress more maturely though
She needs to take back her power. Ignore him like he does her and stop falling all over him every time he acknowledges you. She is pathetic. That’s why my mom always said don’t marry someone you love more than he loves you. It’s a disaster waiting to happen.
Kotoko really has so many love rivals. 😅 Even Naoki's own cousin.
That’s so weird
@@chaewon6267 that’s not even the weirdest part. In the anime version, Naoki’s and Kotoko’s daughter even compete with Kokoko for Naoki’s love 😅
@@lovelee750you sure it’s actually like that? They have love in different ways…
@@lovelee750really!
so basically irie's falling in love w/ kotoko is because a cup of coffee💀👀
HHAHAHAHHAHAGSHA
FOUL HAHAHAHAJ
He is not entirely in love with just a coffee. He loves the way kotoko makes coffee for him. It became his comfort drink over the years. Whenever he's studying for a test , or just had a bad day at work , he always loves to drink kotoko's coffee. For him it was sort of their understanding to each other and how each of them shows love for one another. For him. Any other girl who makes the same coffee taste different if it wasn't brewed by kotoko herself.
every time he made Kotoko jealous or something he makes me mad but when he’s sweet omg I'm screaming like as I get MURDERED💀😭😭😭😭
Bro why cant he just suffer once? Its so unfair that kotoko have to suffer all the time and yet Naoki not doing anything to help her or even comfort her PR ANYTHING . We need S3 and make him suffer atleast once and we also want to see their relationship after AND THEIR KID❤❤❤❤
I hate rika in every version of this drama
Ye she annoying she try to steal him
Yeah right As if she owns him😏
@@ultivm Family Stroke😂
Me too,my friend. We’re all freaking hate her character😤😤
And when kotoko spoke back to Rika if it was her,she wouldn’t even go to America,the tear and the emotion are just so sad. I really like that part. She is really into her acting.🥺🥺
He should have told and cleared everything that is past with his cousin to her wife.
*WE REALLY AND ALWAYS DOUBT YOU SIR*
*ಠ益ಠ*
It's sad that both of them married directly when they did not know each other so deeply even they have feelings with each other, still I think that them being rushed getting married has a little good advantage.
That's practically what naoki said after he had registered his marriage to kotoko. When naoki explained why he doesn't want their marriage to be official yet was because he has so much to expect from them being a couple first before really getting married. He wants them to experience dating first before getting married because it would give them a chance to get to know each other more deeply. But he doesn't regret being married to her quite early. Considering kotoko's overthinking tendencies and the love rivals that may appear it's good that they have something to hold on to each other. And that's what makes him secure.
I think that no one is looking at Naoki's line "when have i ever given you a reason to doubt me?" from the perspective of: Naoki has NEVER pursued any girl EVER. The girls all throw themselves at him and not the other way around. Even during their honeymoon when that Mari girl said "i wish i wouldve met you before Kotoko" Naoki told her "if we had met 100 times i wouldve ignored you 100 times."
So from that unique perspective, then he is 100% right. He has never given her a reason to doubt him. As in, Kotoko shoukd know he would never look/pursue any other woman except for Kotoko! He even had a reputation throughout High School and College that he never liked girls/relationships. So Kotoko should be more confident and he did in fact choose her and only her ❤
The thing I hate about Naoki is that he doesn't act up when girls go around him like what Mari-chan did he only gets mad when it already went to the worst-case scenario, and that's what makes Kotoko hurt and worry geez
The problem is that he is useful to random girls being around him but non of them ever respected his boundaries. He didn't know that wasn't okay but he realised it slowly especially after he was jealous over Keita and then let everyone know he is always married.
Literally everyone except their parents bully Kotoko all the time. It's hard to watch
Exactly she’s not a child
Last month, I remember spamming your community posts with requests to un-private episodes 5-16 of seasons 1 and 2. I thank myself for being this annoying because now you have it back! Thank you so much! Now I can sleep peacefully at night. Arigatou gozaimasu!
A KISS WON'T SOLVE ANYTHING SIR
My emotion throughout the seasons is like a Rollercoaster 🎢 😩
why is naoki always getting the spotlight? i wanna see him suffer more than my baby kotoko -^-
Kotoko acted like absolutely a kid where she is drunk hahahha suitd exactly for her real age
i know many people see naoki as a red flag but i always love whenever he tells people that kotoko is her wife. he never denies his marriage with kotoko
literally bare fvckin minimum of him but bullshit we still love to watch this drama lmao
“aw i love him cause he does the bare minimum🥺🥺 imagine, he isn’t embarrassed by being married with his wife! How romantic🥰😱” sorry but what a pathetic mindset💀it’s a good drama but don’t sugarcoat it lmaooo
@@tofugabslife knowing naoki, it is really big of a deal for him to do the bare minimum. that's why we always call him red flag. we saw him as cold and not expressive with his feelings, seeing him do the bare minimum is shocking. based from his personality, i would really expect him to deny his marriage with kotoko. for sure, even kotoko doesn't expect naoki to tell people he is his wife. for her it is already a big deal. and this is just about the drama. this is not my mindset about relationship but this is about the little things that i noticed about this drama that is out of naoki's character.
even kotoko is a redlfag, she obsessively stalked him and forced her feelings on a guy who didn't want to. now they're facing these issues to grow.
@@tofugabslife It's essential, it shows how far Naoki has come, for him there's only Kotoko and he doesn't want anyone to think they have a chance. It's as if y'all forget that this is the guy who couldn't handle jealousy, indentify his emotions, nor understand his own feelings. He always needed to be told (autistic symptoms)
What's that "more than me..." conversation about??? So Irie-kun really did have feelings for Rika before he met Kotoko? They are messed up. Good thing Kotoko came into Irie-kun's life because he might marry his own cousin!! Hoho.
I know right.. I was uncomfortable watching it tbh
may be 2nd cousins, our cousins of close cousins
cmiiw
@@mariaannainditahernawati7132 still...
@@mariaannainditahernawati7132 but there still cousins
Ikr
I prefer a jealous naoki more than a jealous Kotoko, but wait when he gets jealous instead of taking care of kotoko he behaves rudely.........oh god i don't know anything anymore.😶😶😑😑
I’m tired of people making excuses for naoki… this man compliments and smiles and empathizes with every female but his wife effortlessly … it’s not until he hurts her and she cries or runs away ,he solves everything with a kiss .. (I still haven’t forgotten how he allowed this leech on him the whole honeymoon and how he hurt kotoko and he still didn’t apologize.. he literally brushed it off and blamed her for making him worried for running off )Having a cold demeanor and being a genius doesn’t stop his brain from having the ability to be good to other women but it does to sprinkle a little for his wife ???! Kotoko is giddy but her husband is a Red Sea that we’ve just gotten used to
im literally on my dads phone but HOW CAN KOTOKO BE NOT ANGRY?!?LIKE GIRL SHOW THAT REAL DEEP EMOTION CRY!!!😭😭😭😭😭I CANT STAND HIM ANYMORE
“when did i ever give you reason to doubt me” LETS BE REAL 😭😭
RIGHHHT LIKR 😭😭😭
FRR
I'm so upset to see every time there is someone else interfering in there relationship, why do they make series where the husband will love his wife till the end. She's so young and innocent why put in pretty girls that is focused on them all the time ☹️
Why do i want kotoko to leave naoki even just one day because I'm the one who's getting tired of all she have done for naoki but i can't help I'm still here watching this even tho it makes my blood boil a lot!!!
Naoki has always been loyal, for him there's only Kotoko and Kotoko alone but Kotoko doesn't trust their relationship. He doesn't care about any other girl being in his business
really wished they didn’t include this part.. that’s a cousin having a crush on their cousin 😭
You hate him and want him to suffer more but when he does something sweet to Kotoko YOU CAN'T HELP BUT SCREAM IN 😍😍😍😍😍🤣
This is a roller-coaster for us viewers too🤣
😂😂😂
So true 😂😂 when he's cold we feel bad for kotoko even hate him but when he's even slightest warm and does/tell affectionate things...it's justtttt so cuteeeeeee.... Can't resist him 😂😂
I can't believe I am also suffering along with Kotoko lmao
Frr
I feel tried for kotoko seeing her trying so hard. She had one side love for naoki for 3 years and finally married him but still she can't have a rest...It would be more easier if naoki is being kind to her but he is all doing is nothing !!!!!
from the first taste of coffee made by Kotoko i know Naoki will love it!!
26:22 Kotoko with her hair down 🥰 naoki is really lucky.
41:06 What if Naoki said he's disgusted, bc kotoko clings to kikyo so much on that scene 😂 he's jealous!!!!