School Segregation: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO)
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- Опубликовано: 29 окт 2016
- Public schools are increasingly divided by race and class. John Oliver discusses the troubling trend towards school resegregation.
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holy shit, the comments to this video are A LOT more revealing about racism in 2016 than the video itself.
Yeah and that is why I have deleted so many comments.
Irene Adler There isn't more racism today, it's just a lot more public thanks to social media
I wouldn't say racism so much as people trolling.
Aids racism is not a political view.
Dat Jo possibly. Hiding behind a username makes it easier to say idiotic and outrageous things.
"You don't have to be intentionally racist, to do things that have racist effect."
Racism is about intent.
@@MrCmon113 it is about intent and effect. Both
Does that apply to you too?? Chinese, Japanese?? Or is it ONLY white people that have the capacity to be racist?
@@johnsprings3322 Racism of the kind being talked about here (institutional racism) requires power. Minorities can be individually bigoted, sure, but they lack the institutional power to engage in oppressive racism the way majorities can.
John Springs I bet you harbor no racist bias huh? Youre just fucking stupid.
I love how that one mom assumes her kid won't be the one selling drugs to the other kids. Parents seem to think their own child is an angel while every other child is a threat and none of them know their own child as well as they think they do. It's the natural parental blind spot that educators are unfortunately intimately familiar with.
her kids r probably gonna smoke that pack when they get into high school; nearly every teen does in current day.
Dude do you know how many white kids at my high school ( mostly white)sold weed? A Ton. Once someone sold it in the front row of my art class and the teacher ( staunchly Anti drug) did NOTHING. White kids can get away with anything!
Well no, they don't think _every_ other child is a threat; just _certain_ other children...
I know. We seen this during all those police riots in 2020. It seemed every mom thought their son was “a good boy”.
@@minivan5908 Nope. The first part is an assumption with a big lack of proof and the second thing is - among other things - totally out of time.
My moms favorite child was herself
"When I was your age I did my own laundry"
"When I was your age I could cut my own hair"
"When I was your age I packed my own lunch for school"
Note: the last one was when I was in 3rd grade
Also she said all these things while not letting me go in the front yard in my VERY safe neighborhood without her being within view
No one should be cutting their own hair. Even if they're shaving it all off. You will never get it even and it will always look bad.
Guessing she was concerned about kidnapping or ...? 👽?
Look up raisedbynarcissists on Reddit. It's much more common than people realise
@@SadisticSenpai61 Not to brag, but hairstylists are my biggest enemy, so I will not lay down my scissors and give up, I will swing and cut everything myself.
I mean packing your own lunch isn't very impressive but CUTTING YOUR OWN HAIR, Laundry, AND DOING THEM ALL AT THE SAME TIME is amazing.
I've found that funding for schools that score higher on tests is wrong. Why give to schools that score higher more funding when schools that score lower need it?
It's supposed to be an incentive to get lower funded schools to teach their students better, however i don't think it occurred to them that schools who can't afford textbooks can't teach their students shit.
But if you gave better funding to schools who scored lower than average, teachers would start purposefully failing their students so the school would get more funding and in turn an HD tv in the teachers lounge.
Best idea would be to find a equal ground to fund all the schools equally. But i found that even if we give 65% of the taxes earned in a district to the local public education system, if a school happens to be an a low income district they will get lower funding than schools that exist in high income districts.
The problem is, is that we are using an outdated format of public education and no one's trying to fix it. We're are one of the lowest in test scores among the first world countries and apparently this doesn't alarm anybody. We get people who can barely read in their adult age, i'm in college and i've met those people! In college! My education was so bad i can't even divide large quantities without a calculator, which is why i'm in the class with those people.
Throwing money at problems is a fool's solution. Yes, there will always be incentive, but honestly, if you really think about it Education is ran like big business w/the most important people (teachers) earning the lowest wages
I think funding should be tied to student numbers. Not test scores, not county lines. Schools are one of the most important things people buying homes/moving care about. A school that's doing poorly is going to keep people from wanting to move there, which creates a downward spiral.
I know there's a big difference between St.Louis and LA schools. But my high school had a fund raiser to buy paint. My fiance's school had glass working machinery that cost thousands each month just to run the machines. Both public schools.
Need it for what? To bribe the students?
All things considered, that funding system is really messed up.
I love how delusional that mom is at the pta meeting. She really thinks her suburban kid doesn't have access to drugs...meanwhile her oxytocin prescription is mysteriously missing.
phanatic215 I wish I could get a prescription for oxytocin. All I get are these lousy hugs.
OxyContin, i think is what you meant.
I doubt she has a prescription for Oxytocin. I guess you went to a segregated school...
Ya know, kids these days.... getting lit on that labor inducing hormone. The parties these days are insaaaane
Kids like you are the reason why they have teen rehabs.
I find it interesting how when the parent was talking about how she wanted her child to not worry about being “stabbed “, the fact that most school shootings happen at predominantly white schools never crossed her mind.
The fact that the color of someones skin decides if we should care about them or not. I don't get how our species has managed to do so many great things but yet couldnt.seem to comprehend that we all human no matter where your from. The best argument being... Competitive behavior makes everyone better!(Only in theroy
She's a racist dingbat.
I'd rather deal with a minority person with a knife than an angry white person with an AR15. Statistical, mass shootings are predominantly a white man crime.
That's why she said stabbed.
Black kids cant take daddy's gun to school, cause daddy is in prison for having barely enough weed to get high on him 12 years ago.
They only own a shiv made out of old soap and newspaper shreds.
@@TheShatarEUisMyHome I'm reminded of that scene in My Name is Earl
I actually went to a poor, racially isolated high school where 95% of the school was hispanic. I was part of the 5% white minority of the school but I loved that school. I live in the Coachella Valley and there are four different school districts and when I went to a white majority high school in a different district for a month my sophmore year, I saw just how much my high school was disrespected and racially profiled (one of the reasons I returned to my old high school after just a month). When I said to fellow students and even some teachers, where I went freshman year, I was actually asked if I was worried about gangs in the school and if I had been tempted by all the drugs (both falsehoods when it comes to the school). I wanted to punch them for saying that crap. Even after having graduated six years ago, it still gets to me and makes me realize that so much change is still needed. This main story is very relevant and I hope more people will listen to it.
Kids are sometimes assholes but in the long run they'll come through. I mean, I went to a well mixed school and I can say for it's low class standards you'll be excepted by your 5th beating.
Thankfully I had three and had to beat up the bully. Lost the first one though ... got revenge after :]
Seriously though, it's not the kid's fault but the people around them.
My high schools actully 90 percent latino. But because my area in TX is majority mexican. I go the the good school in a small town outside the city. The city school is on academic probation. Even though theres not that many white or black students we still get along, and most of the teachers are white and one of my principles was blac, and from other parts of the country. It's a really cool place and even though there are some bad kids like anywhere else the fact that theres even a small but sizable population of non Hispanics really helps confront our biases
A bad district is a bad district it isn't so much the racial make but really the effort put into education.
You probably liked that school because you were in the top 10% without breaking a sweat.
jawtek82 can’t tell if the blatant racism here is intentional, accidental, or sarcastic
@@frimi8593 No racism in my post. Let's let Brigette respond and tell us how she did academically at the POOR high school she mentioned, and we'll see if my guess is right or wrong. What's really racist is the government forcing poor Hispanic kids to all be lumped in together at a crappy government-run school, while wealthier (and likely more Caucasian) folks often have better options.
It’s honestly heartbreaking to see that little girl, completely innocently, say ‘this person is bad because they don’t look like me’ and it’s a really poignant example of the massive importance of diversity in schools
As I've seen people point out,that question was kinda rigged,she only had one difference and that was skin tone. It's sad but with no other information she,who sees herself as a good kid, assumes the one that's like her is good.
Oh that question was super rigged. The adult tells the child to pick the good one, but the only variable is skin colour, which tells the child that skin colour can be used to determine whether a child is good or not. The way the test is presented encourages racial bias so I don't think it's a great indicator for whether the child naturally has it, because of course the child is going to pick the one that looks more like them because they know themself better than anyone else and don't want to think they're a bad person because of their skin colour. When asked to pick the bad child, again the fact that the question is even being asked of them and the only difference in the drawings is skin colour tells the child that skin colour can be used to tell whether someone is good or bad, so naturally the child will choose the skin colour they have the least experience with because they know the other ones so if one of them is bad, and the adult is strongly implying one of them is, it's most likely the one they don't have as much experience with by process of elimination. Of course children can have racial biases but I don't feel like this is a good test for it because it intensifies or outright creates racial bias in there by the nature of how its presented to the kids.
I know. It reminds me of the way people who wear a MAGA hat are treated.
White supremacy.... I don't think black kids believe white kids are evil because they look different
All diversity causes is violence and malice.
I know I'm 2 years late, but I live in St. Louis. I know people that went to Francis Howell Central.
Trust me, they are doing WAY more drugs than that mom thinks
I had that same thought and I don't even know the school or anyone who attends it.
I graduated from Webster Groves High School and it was the same there. Heroine is the big killer there now. Or ar least it was when I left Missouri 8 months ago
@@coreywelton8659 yeah, black people being integrated into a school in a predominately white neighborhood must've proven to be a great hindrance in the life of someone who, at worst, doesn't know the difference between an inspiring woman and a street drug and, at best, is too stupid or lazy to check their spelling.
@@mellowdrone you really need to learn how to read shit online. I never said it was a hindrance. Just remarking on how predominately white neighborhoods tend to have better drugs. Before you comment next time, make sure you can open your mind to the true context of the message as opposed to going off half cocked. It will serve you better in the future.
@@coreywelton8659 oh please, don't even start preaching to me about reading comprehension, you sensitive fucking teenager. It's not the reader's responsibility to infer that your "true meaning" is anything different than it appears to be. Which in THIS CONTEXT follows comments about drug problems being bad and/or worsening in the tace of racial integration. If you don't want to be misinterpreted, be more specific. But since you've already established that you're barely literate, I'll take the blame on this one.
"I dont want to see them stabbed or given drugs or robbed"
Wtf...what is the basis for that comment?
my money is on- personal experience
@@RogueBystander what? Personal experience of high school kids stabbing her while giving her drugs and robbing her? Thats idiotic. Sounds like hysteria and bias to me.
$20 easy says her son is already "taking a drug". Kid's probably taking it with people that look exactly like him.
The rich kids can buy better drugs.
@@RogueBystander I can't believe a person can be so blatantly and unapologetically racist. Hopefully our society grows past people like you at some point.
"Hey sweetie, if you paint your face black, people will be offended."
"But I like black people"
"Okay, I guess it's fine then."
HOW WAS THAT THE WHOLE CONVERSATION??
Because it's the intention behind the action which counts. He wants to impersonate an important figure in american history, and he want to do it right. I his childish world there is no blackfacing, it's just imitating someone he look up to. The problem are the adults, seeing the blackface an automatically assume a bad intention behind it, like mockery or disrespect.
Thats the difference between the preassumpion of adults and the innocence of children. This was more a loose-loose situation.
Lusti I'm fine with the kid, because I do understand his intention. I think his parents should have stopped because blackface is disrespectful. Sooner or later he's gonna learn about the historical context and he'll either regret this or think it's perfectly excusable and not offensive at all. That said, I don't think people should hold this against him, he's a kid.
@@four_girls_in_search_of_awesom Thats exactly my point: How is a blackface disrespectful? If you do it to mock black people yes thats disrespectful. But is a blackface in comedy disrespectful? Is imitating his idol disrespectful? It looks like the context is important even here. I understand your argument about the historical context, but shouldn't we progress and judge people by their intensions more that always define something in a historical context.
I don't want do diminish the autrocities done to all people of all races. And i think we as people and as a society should always remember the methods and events leading to those autrocities. Just to not repeat them over, our ancestors paid a huge price to learn/teach those lessons to the humanity. But then, in a much lesser scale this is a boy, his intention is good and he should be allowed to blackface if he want's to. It's much more difficult to explain to him he can't do that because someone, somewhere in the past did something bad to another beeing. That doesn't help either ...
Lusti I see blackface as one of those things that we should leave in the past. Sort of like the swastika, it's pretty much ruined forever. The sad truth is, racism isn't all in the past. Sure, slavery's abolished, but African Americans are still a minority and underprivileged in many instances. Blackface is a symbol of bigotry, cultural appropriation, what have you, and it will be for a while, so I don't think it should be used that way. Maybe there are instances where it's okay, like self aware satire (Tropic Thunder is an example), but even then it's controversial.
Anyways, thanks for debating with me like a normal person. The internet's been so touchy lately, and you're a breath of fresh air.
@@lusti6511 r u black? If not then who r u to say whether or not blackface is offensive and whether or not people (black people in particular) should or shouldn't be offended. I don't blame this kid, I blame his parents. Whether or not his intentions were pure, there r decidedly negative connotations to wearing blackface. It has NEVER been a positive thing stop trying to act like we should just change history and forget completely what it initially stood for. It's all great if u anyone wants to respectfully emulate a black role model, but u can do so without painting ur face black. Its not necessary to get ur point across, and whatever good intentions u had will surely be lost in the execution. We as a black community do NOT (at any time) want to see someone caucasian dressed in blackface, whether or not it's meant to be positive. Its just not positive for us. And if ur not part of the black community, u don't get the right to say whether or not it's ok. That's not ur place to say.
The fact that those are all macs instead of normal average priced computers is crazy
@serendipidus1 Whats funny is that Google has usurped them in many places now. Chromebooks FTW
Yeah....tf??? I went to a white school in a rich area and we didn’t have fucking MACS!
HONESTLY! I went to a suburban school and it took a while for us to get macs, which are still limited
We had apple computers at my school in the 80's. They just leased them. They probably have long term contracts.
That's new York tho
The little girl choosing a “good” and “bad” child is legitimately one of the most depressing things I have ever seen.
the only difference between them was color and she was asked to find a good child and a bad child. the question clearly WANTED her to reply in such a way. her logic is sound there is a bad child, she herself is a good child therefore the child least like her is bad. it never occurred to her to break out of the box the question put her in and say none of them.
FirstArchon not true, in similar studies when black children are asked who the “bad” child is, they pick the darkest black child. So yes, it’s legitimately really fucking sad.
@@FirstArchon exactly. a black child would probably do the same thing. hell. you could maybe ask a black child "who is the evil child and deserves divine justice" and they point to a white child. because that is how they are taught.
@@mayainverse9429 its not necessarily how their taught. the human mind likes to make the mistake of "like me is good unlike me is bad" you don't have to teach a child that they'll do that on their own.
I have seen on internet the same with a black girl hmm the same result
it just feels so strange, to read the word "segregated" in 2016 (2019) but here were are
No matter how diverse a place may be, its human nature to be with your own people, or people thay look alike to one self. Basically social surrogation.
I'm from a town in NY and I can say it isn't that bad HERE (can't say anywhere else).
Although, my mother had to literally bitch out city hall, fight, and won on people with disabilities to attend a school since the school itself didn't make any accommondations which I had lead poisoning back then but was over it. I know this isn't racist but tells you what schools are missing time to time lol
2020
Segregation still going on.
justthenews.com/politics-policy/coronavirus/amid-coronavirus-crisis-oregon-county-creates-segregated-safe-space
even in my diverse school, I noticed this in the makeup of my advanced classes, which were disproportionately White. The remedial classes I saw on the other hand, were disproportionately minorities. The worst part? I often was in classes with both given the weird organisation of my school... and the minority students were no dumber than the kids in my advanced classes. In fact there was many times I found minorities sat in ordinary level classes who I thought definitely should be at a higher level, and plenty of white kids in my advanced classes who should NOT have been there. I concluded the white families were better informed and better connected to the administration at my school, which is a shame. Segregation happens even at the school level.
i mean its really a class thing, better connected and well to do people have more time and resources to fight for their children and earn them their place. It happens in europe in all white places between the rich and poor.
Most of my classes are iep so I wouldn’t say I have the best perspective on the percentage and stuff but my school is very culturally diverse. Some of my classes are majority white, some majority Hispanic, and other majority black. Most though are pretty even. I honestly think it is just chance sometimes.
I live in New York and I can tell you that a lot the students in specialized high schools are not at all intelligent. There are parents that pay to get their kids in and have people in the administration like you said that get them in. I have a friend that got into one like that.
god did we go to the same school? I was best friends with someone who was racially profiled and to this day i want to scream still, because she was literally smarter than me, and while they lauded my "intelligence" they treated her like shit JUST cause english was her second language (florida sucks- and every school administrator there is a buffoon and also a racist asshole)
did you go to my school? cuz it was the same there; not only that, but the administration actively discouraged black and brown kids from joining advanced classes. actively. i wished they'd fuckin namedrop those fucks who did that in front of the school. even asian kids, there were like, 5 in those classes. i was one of them. it's cuz of segregation in the elementary and middle school levels that this happens.
I am black and adopted. All my life I've gone to white schools. I was actually the only black person in my high school. Everyone was confused about the fact that I was smart and some people were intimidated by me simply because I was black. I always felt like I was a freak because my skin was dark and I got many comments about it. I think that we really need racial diversity so that this doesn't happen. I do have hope that things are getting better especially because of the internet where we meet all sorts of good and bad people.
gabriel semidey did i disagree with that?
True. Accept that American left and right both love segregation. Even American colleges have Safe spaces for racial segregation. If you believe being a white person on a black school is any different, nah. Nobody is looking at American left or right how to create a multiracial society. Both sides are very racist.
luka zupie sorry from my understanding is I'm sorry I'm not racist but I still don't want to be near people of color...
luka zupie To quote one of my favorite movies, "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means." Racism is more than lynchings and burning crosses on somebody's front lawn. It's a much, much bigger problem than that, and includes basically everything you've said in this comment thread. You can say you "wish them the best" all day, but when those well wishes only apply if said groups are far away from you, you're racist. I'd like to debate this some more, but I must get back to work.
Hive Atlas same here. Asian immigrant growing in italy. Won a regional award, apparently I "stole" It only because I'm not white... but must of them kept quiet, so I think I'm doing my share for the problem :)
“Heavens to Betsy! That really fried my grits! Sir, you are a scoundrel without valor, without valor i say!”
Oh, he must be Georgian.
He forgot "bless your heart" and "I'll pray for you"
Never heard the grits one. I'm gonna start using it.
I've heard "kiss my grits!" Lol.
Also, why Georgia? Other than the last sentence, it sounded like what I hear it SC pretty regularly. :P
Carolinas/Virginia to me
The amount of times that I’ve heard “goodness gracious” or “heavens alive” from my aunt. I restrain myself daily from throwing a printer at her
This sure aged well given the Trump "go back where you came from" comment this week.
Was that the shithole countries thing?
you mean someone telling a socialist from another country trying to turn this country into their home country to go back to where they came from?
are you saying you would never tell a Nazi to go back to where they came from (germany) really?
Mana Montana lol damn you are delusional.
@@mayainverse9429 Wait, Would you tell a Nazi to go back to Germany!?
@@mayainverse9429 You can keep your US BORN Nazis, we Germans don't want them and you couldn't send them back anyway, bc like I said - they are not Germans, being a Nazi does not mean you're German.
Also, the people you're talking about are also BORN IN THE US, so please shut up kindly.
I have a brother named Dylan AND THIS IS SO ACCURATE HE ACTUALLY IS THE FAVORITE. It got too real for me there 😂
man i was looking for this comment
Is he your lil brother? He must has to be :p
This country, and every country, will profit from a well educated youth.
Cool picture there mate
Dude hate to go all conspiracy on you, but no. An educated youth is a youth that can overthrow your oligarchy
meh prolly not, computers will likely do all actual work by the time that blackface kid is in the workplace.
Budget Hitman Not everyone would. That's why you need to ask who wouldn't benefit from this. That's where you'll find the source of the problem. What you said is true. Find those for who it isn't. They're the problem.
Wemdiculous true but if the kids aren’t smart enough to keep the computers running correctly then we’re all gonna die
DON'T SCROLL to the rest of the comments - you will regret it
It's floated up above yours, I'm afraid, but thanks for the warning :(
Mason Wang how dare people disagree with "progressive" dogma??
Don't continue reading. Different opinions are below. You may be offended! Save yourself before it's too late.
Yeah dont take the red pill
Are you afraid of opposing opinions? Online? Saddening
Good old, malcolm X. Always telling the truth.
Big fan of Malcom. Most people don’t know how radical he was. Almost the polar opposite of MLK Jr. in every way.
@@TheDanielLivingston you should go look at more of MLK's speeches including all of his "I Have A Dream" speech and you'll see more similarities between the two than people think.
@@sterlingw.8821 I've watched the I Have a Dream speech a few times through...can you explain more on what you mean?
@@TheDanielLivingston
Malcolm was a lot less radical than people think he was, especially after his hajj where he saw black west African Muslims and Bosnian/Albanian Muslims treating one another as brothers. He became less of a black separatist but retained his militant more views. Martin was also more radical than people give him credit for.
This video is even more relevant and and still needed today.
Where that little boy is concerned, he didn't know about the history, he didn't see it as bad he wanted to portray some one he respected, he honestly did it with love in his heart.
John, you should do a video on rent/housing. It's so fucking out of control.
Yes
Malcolm Tyler Would you say the rent is
TOO
DAMN
HIGH?!
Malcolm I KNOW!!!!!
+Malcolm Tell that to a person in Dublin.
Malcolm tell that to someone that lives in Central London.
I'm from Italy, and i know what the surname "Capacchione" means: is a dialectal way to say "person with a big head but small brain".
Holy shit lol 😂
So it's like "capoccione"?
@@landochabod7 Well, sort of. Capacchione is from the south of Italy, often changed in "Capucchiò", and is a playful insult. Capoccione in northern Italy can also mean a smart person, or a man who's in charge of something, and is often traslittered in "Capoccia".
@@grazianogiacobone4321 Ok, thanks. Being from northern Italy I'd never heard "capacchione" until today.
Cheers from Milan.
@@landochabod7 Zio, io sto a Molino Dorino.
One time I had a Phish fan give me DMT and play the didgeridoo while I tripped and went to another world.
It’s weird how accurate that Phish joke was.
Lol my Kenyan self laughing at that pencil joke 😂😂😂
God, I regret looking at the comments.
Agreed. I tell myself "never again", but I keep on making the same mistake.
Be careful, you might have to see other viewpoints that are different from the one you agree with.
I find it amusing. The people that complain about John not being funny, or entirely wrong, or lying, or making things up, or a liberal hack, they are here week after week pissing and moaning about his popularity. Yet, they are part of the reason he is so popular. If they'd stop watching he'd be less popular, but they can't help themselves. And their flailing comments give me another reason to come here. They can be as funny as the videos themselves.
Oh yes, God forbid that people express their own opinion and combat the lies and misinformation that Johnny McOliver spews out.
Feel free to go back to your safe space and pretending that reality doesn't exist.
+Remy Lebeau R U triggered?
"classrooms should teach children about the importance of self-esteem, not rip it from them"
*cough cough* high school *cough cough*
Golden Apple yup. I could not agree more unfortunately
yuppppppp
Yeah, i agree, to an extent, children should be taught that we should all try to be kind to one another and that we're all great and capable of great things, but we shouldn't try to make our kids think they're special or better than others. If you get a good grade on a test, you're rewarded, if you get a bad grade, you're probably punished, hopefully at home, cause in the future, if you get a bad grade from someone who's assessing you at work, there won't be a second test to bring your grade up
Honestly that’s a lot of schools in America not just high schools.
My son (3rd grade) has gone to mostly black schools since he was 4. It breaks my heart that his schools have all had fewer resources, but his teachers have been amazing, and he doesn't see race as a factor when making friends
When I did my gap year in the US, it is one of the things that marked me the most. I came from a very diverse city and school. I had never been in a class with only white people until I came to the US. I would ride the school bus and drive by the other school in the area, a much poorer neighborhood, most of the kids were Latino and African American. I really thought it was so strange :/
(As a foreigner I didn't receive any racism in that school, but I'm also white).
You wouldn't receive racism in a white school, if you are white as well, regardless of whatever nation you're from..
@@sashacooke263 that's not true. If he is jewish or irish he could've in the south
Marco Polo the Irish thing doesn’t really matter in the south anymore.
@@marcopolo2028 do most even know about the whole Irish thing
@@sashacooke263 I assume the point is: it‘s not about where you‘re from but what you look like to those people
Sounds like the root of the problem is segregated neighbourhoods, not segregated schools.
True but i think they are just attacking the problems at all sides. kidney cancer is a symptom of smoking and drinking. The core problem of smoking and drinking will be addressed but until thats fully healed you cant really just leave the damaged kidney to heal on its own.
JevPrivate wow, that actually makes Sense haha
Thank god this is top post. I spent this entire video thinking the exact same thing. Another huge problem, why are schools in the US funded by local property taxes? Why not pull from a statewide fund so that all schools receive equal funding regardless of the wealth of the local people?
He briefly addressed this at around 3:15. -and as @jevprivate said, it's sometimes more urgent to give someone a lung transplant so they don't die and worry about them stopping smoking for after the surgery. Desegregating schools being the surgery in this analogy
A topic that was illuminated very well by This American Life
www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/512/house-rules
I went to a very racially diverse school that was aware and proud of that fact. They were also proud of having the first Gay/Straight alliance in the county. There was over 500 people in my graduating class, about 1.8K in high school (I knew this because I was in Yearbook). We had very low rates of bullying. One time I saw a kid push someone's books out of their hands and a group of kids circled around him and shamed him for being a bully. Several students in my graduating class got into Ivy League schools and even those that didn't had very successful college careers and are now holding good jobs. Diversity helps emotional intelligence grow. It's an invaluable trait in all situations.
Sounds like a bunch of pussies tbh
Concord Academy?
Sounds like my school lol
I'm Latino, having gone to public schools in inner city Los Angeles I was never in class with a single white classmate until I went to college in another city. Sometimes when I mention this to white folks they are shocked but it's true. And yes, they do have better schools and better resources than we do.
Well, the world/school is what you make of it.
@@ivx8345 Every opportunity is what you make of it but how are ppl supposed to compete if the playing field isn't even just? If you're receiving better resources at a younger age than a black student when it comes to applying to college who do you think is going to better prepared?
If the situation was flipped and Latinos and Blacks were the ones advancing way more than whites bc of our system is and we gave you a bullshit line "well life is what you make it" how would you feel?
But they dont have affirmative action or diversity bullshit to get them into college. A Hispanic student with a GPA of 3.0 will get accepted while whites and asians with 4.0 will get denied.
What about white hispanics
@@TheAgentOfDeath I went to community college I started behind I was poorer but grandfathered into the nicer elementry school because of older siblings. U was at the bottom and I never really considered college until I was 15 almost 16 and faced with restarting as a freshman or getting my GED I got my GED and went to community college for the simple reason I was really to young to get a full time job. you don't have to get accepted you just place into classes pay for them show up and do the work. the nursing program and other special programs require things but not getting into college in general. when I graduated I realized they had something called dual inrollment which is what i would like for my kids to do is take classes take double as highschool and college classes and students earn there deploma and associates at the same time this means when they are ready to move out of the house if they are going to transfer to a four year school they trasnfer as juniors. not freshman dual inrollment i don't think is free but since the kids are living with you because they are teens the biggest portion is cut down also it being a in state at a community college and I think though I am not sure if it is true everywhere it is discounted even more so because it is partly funded by the highschool.
The child that gets more exposure early on, ends up being more mature, practical & open minded later.
I've seen this with a lot of army kids where the families keep moving across India.
Genie #GlassLamp man isn’t it just great going around the internet and intentionally wasting your life on dumbass shit like your miserable do-for-nothing life?
I was the only white kid in my Sunday school class and my first kiss was with a black girl. My school was on the edge of 1970's integration and I didn't experience an all white class room till college in the 1980's and that was a horrible experience. The things the other whites said who never knew integration was shocking. Seeing all the other whites' discomfort with my Creole girlfriend was sickening.
artsHscience creoles are gorgeous
+Lloyd Zed Ehhhhhh, I mean it's next to Texas (I'm pretty sure he's from Louisiana considering he's talking about Creole, cause I don't hear to many people besides Louisiana people talk about Creole) but wrong state so nah.
Lloyd Zed Sure, let's go with that.
Am I the only one who legitimately does not see any problem with someone going all-out in their effort to look like a historical figure? Blackface was racist because the people doing it were doing it to make fun of black people. Painting your face dark for what is effectively a Martin Luther King Jr. costume is just making an impressively thorough costume.
Completely agree
Wtf.....
I came to the comment section looking for someone who felt the same. I am shock something like that is considered racist, like it didn't matter he really seem to admire MLK and respect and love black people, no, the only thing that mattered is that he painted his face.
This is why I'm glad to live segregated from this nonsense in different country where you can paint your face whatever you like without other people harassing you because of it.
Yeah, it's like racism has been redefined
Thank you John Oliver for doing these in-depth comprehensive stories. If high schools would air clips like yours during lunch alone, this country would be wiser!
Agreed, but too much profanity 😂
I showed this to someone called Dylan, and he may have gone insane about it, saying his parents hated him. So John Oliver... I never thought I would say this, but... You got me punched in the face.... WORTH IT
My names Dylan and I have two other siblings, and this just made my day 😂
do you do your own laundry tho?
Yeah, do you do your own laundry man?
To be clear, it is actually Dillon who is the favorite. Common mistake, because of the sound.
@@james.randorff is that Randorph with a "P-H" or an "F"?
Wow. Cool
why can't the government take all the tax money and divide it equally among all schools. instead of letting the rich neighborhoods funding their rich schools and the poor neighborhoods end up not funding their schools. wtf is this?
Shh, you're not supposed to make sense when talking about politics.
ptegegn1 because people keep voting Republican to stop things exactly like this from happening.
A lot of the time it's because the poorer schools don't do as well. And since everyone likes being on the winning side, or backing the winning horse, they send more money to the schools that are doing better. But the inverse of this is also true: in my parish, the school board and system sent boatloads of money to the mostly black schools BECAUSE they were mostly black and had lower scores on a bunch of standardized tests while denying most funding to my school, which was better integrated and had much higher scores. From the POV of most of the people (and teachers) in my school, they were wasting money to fund an unappreciated education, instead of giving it to a school with kids who could do so much better with it.
ptegegn1 because a large portion of the tax money is already spent housing and feed a large portion of the black community.
ptegegn1 thats called socialism. Fucking communist
i think the root of the problem is housing and funding... and unconscious bias
Awesome in a deeply salinet way. Keep it up, J.O. and staff!
I was doing hw but then...
literally same
dang me too
Mitchell Lazarow I graduated last year. 😎
I was having sex but then...
Edgedable good for you, tell your sister I said hi
"The hard truth is: you don't have to be intentionally racist to do things that have racist affects."
Effects.
RealityCheck1993 ł
L5940 what a foolish statement. Race only existed 400 yrs ago (thanks white America).
Bengal tigers don't discriminate against white tigers. There is no factual basis behind your statement.
Just another cognitively dissonant white person's justifications
I see that you forgot to add a time stamp. 11:56
Also... effects are the consequences and affect is pretending to have or feel something.
RealityCheck1993 intent is the most important factor to any action, the reactions to unintentional negative things are reacted to waaay out of proportion.
When he said integration, I literally jumped and my heart skipped a beat because I was doing differentiation questions to procrastinate from doing integration exercises lol.
The problem is the Supreme judges who have been around since slavery whose parents been around since slavery still have that segregation in their blood
Racism doesn’t go away because some people die. You must change the system to get rid of systemic racism.
There are no 154 year olds on the Supreme Court
Shit i'm white and I graduated from a high school that was only 9% white in San Bernardino, CA over 10 years ago and it was so diverse racism wasn't even something talked about. This is insane that in 2016 this is even a problem.
Yes I live in STL, MO one of the most racist segregated cities in American
bakerXderek I had the same experience growing up in Miami
ITS THE CURRENT YEAR?!?!?!?!?!
+bakerXderek
A school with only 9% white people is not diverse. Racial diversity in schools is not about how many minorities attend; It's about how equal the amount of each race that attends is.
***** I can't wait to leave one more year of school this place will fuck you up.
Yeah i dont get why people are so surprised that Racism is still here. This stuff didnt happen 200 years ago, as much as how some people choose to act like it is. It was very recent and now those same people are voting trump
Who?
Gumba Chris *Hitlery
Racism only became prominent when Obama became president.
Ah! ad hominem, the favorite tool for the intellectually deprived individuals.
not really it was just more quiet but those assholes were still and are still out there. but when trump gets elected they are gonna start poping up again.
i am watching this clip almost 3 years after it came out, and I still find it both relevant AND funny. John Oliver is a one of a kind!!
Myself and my Mother's side of the family all went to West Charlotte. Great School. My son Graduated from Myers Park High,one of the richest schools in Charlotte, he loved it. It afforded him so many opportunities that we would never have had a chance to take advantage of otherwise. Every child deserves a quality Education.
I'm a white student from one of the Boston suburb schools that busses in inner city kids to go to our schools. My friends and I have talked to our teachers about the program because we've noticed it is not that great. I first became interested / aware of its issues when my sophomore year English teacher asked our (all white) advanced class if racism exists in the school. People were reluctant to answer, so I raised my hand and said "yes". I gave several examples -- from hearing the n-word used casually by white students to black students keeping to themselves. Most of the other students who spoke disagreed that there was racism and blamed black students staying in their own groups on them self-segregating.
My teacher brought up how five years ago, the students of color sat in the cafeteria for lunch at integrated tables. Whereas, now, black students sit at their own table either in the cafeteria or in one of the subject hallways for lunch. While other groups of kids also do not sit in the cafeteria, it's because they feel less welcomed or don't feel like being around the people in the cafeteria. It's a really small school (around 100 per grade), and while there are things that make it harder for black students to integrate (like missing out on sports and other extra circulars because they commute an hour+ to and from school every day using our public school busses, so they would have to find their own rides back to the city after practice), the program definitely used to be better.
My English teacher this year, told us (our all white, AP class) a story a local black student wrote about for his college application a few years back. He was one of the few students of color who actually lived in our town, and on his first day of school back in first or second grade, he didn't know what bus to get on, so one of the teachers directed him toward the metco (inter city) bus. He almost got to Boston by the time his parents contacted the bus driver to tell him his son lived in our town, not in the city. It was an awful mistake, and I understand how it could be made at a school like mine, but that story kind of underscores the problems with race even at a top public school in Massachusetts that has an integration program. Just sharing my experience.
I grew up in Western Mass. So segregation has been a problem across our state. I went to school in Westfield. I remember when Franklin Ave started to become integrated and all the white parents started sending their kids to other schools. They even built a new one to effectively lessen the impact of integration and used the cover of well you know we HAVE so many kids in our district. I feel like Westfield High is in bad need of being rebuilt not just the building, but the internal culture. Progress is being made since the days that I walked downtown Westfield and didnt feel like an outsider. Even now I see kids of color playing with white kids. Back in my day I remember white parents saying, "Don't play with the Puerto Ricans!" I think racism persists and many kids of color don't know if they can trust the white community as a whole and that only adds to distrust. Whites distrust Black and Brown kids and move out of the area if the school becomes more than 10-20% brown/black. If the school is 50-50% you start seeing the white flight kick off and 80-20% you have the poorest whites and the now impoverished district dealing with problems which start to build up. I never understood why so many white people up and leave rather than integrate with nonwhites. They lock their doors when they enter Springfield and avoid Holyoke. Always justifying it as bad neighborhoods. How do you think that makes nonwhites feel? It dehumanizes the community and in turn creates a self fulling prophecy. The world think I'm worthless and bad... Might as well prove them right. :/
I am white.
I grew up in a town in South Carolina that is predominantly black.
Y'all act like it's a thing of parents not caring, and kids not knowing how to act, and that might be true to a certain extent. But shit, the average SAT scores were like 1046. There were a lot of kids who made good grades. Only a handful actually dicked around and did nothing. There were some violence and drugs, but let's be real, that's fucking any high school in America at this point. Any white people that think there isn't already drugs and fights at the mostly-white schools are naive.
Halfway through junior year, my mom got arrested, leading me to go live with my dad an hour away, where I went to a different school, with mostly white kids. Just as much violence. Maybe even more rampent drug usage. Grades across the board were probably more or less the same. But I tell you what, the difference between the funding was night and day. Everybody had their own iPads, you didn't have to pay extra money just for simple things (lockers, parking permits, school IDs, etc.)
The teachers actually had time to do their jobs. And it makes a difference. The school I went to before, there were either teachers that were brand new, and maybe did care, but were really just trying to make it through their peer evaluations. Or, they were teachers who've been there for 30 years, and are just waiting to retire, and had pretty much checked out. The school itself was nicer, from aesthetics, to actual upkeep.
I'll agree that the problem isn't as simple as John Oliver was making it...but it sure as hell isn't as non-existent as a lot of y'all commenting make it either. I went from a C/D student at one place, to an A+ student at another, not really changing my attitude much along the way. That's not a coincidence.
BUT, and I am a liberal, but what John's describing is more classism than racism. Yes, I realize the two go hand-in-hand more often that not, but with that being said, the big problem is federal. Education receives a mere 6% of federal funding, and considering it's to educate our future, I feel like that's a little low. So when districts only have so much money to allocate, yes, they're going to put priority over the quote-unquote "nicer communities".
and I feel I should add, this wasn't no damn decades ago. I graduated in 2015.
And what excactly does this prove? That violence exists on both white and black schools? Obviously, nobody has argued otherwise.
Please do explain because I am lost :)
That to say giving opportunities to lower income kids, no matter the ethnicity, does not just suddenly bring down the entire school's performance...like those crazy ass parents in St. Louis were saying. The problem is more classism than racism, though the two can, and often do, go hand in hand.
And also, if there isn't going to be an increase in drugs or violence, the two "big ones" people like to use to say this sort've thing shouldn't transpire, then exactly why do certain people care? The same amount of tax-payer dollars is going to buses either way, so it's not financial. If things don't get any worse, it's not environmental. So...what is it?
+Nico By
Did you not watch the same video I watched? Or did you not watch it at all and just waded into the comment section full of preconceived opinions?
Because when a large portion of the video is discussing how people are using dog whistles as justification for segregating schools, pointing out that those dog whistles exist at the same degree at the school the people is fighting to keep segregated is an extremely valid point.
I so grateful i went to an extremely mixed school. Tennessee btw.
Crayo Gaming Channel same here in cali
Georgia!!!
I am so grateful to have lived in diverse city and neighborhood. It's a blessing beyond comparison. And I will teach my children the same thing.
Why not just fund schools with State taxes instead of property taxes instead of all these complicated workarounds?
Because rich people want their school districts to be far superior to everyone elses so when their kids grow up they will be in charge of society with a good education while everyone else has a poor education and will be the pions
You expect the politicians in those states to care enough to do it? No they are more focused on making people think they are disenfranchised so they can keep power.
That is how Canada does it and it works well. I can't imagine having my child bussed out of our area for school, that seems insane.
@@morganhillfightclub2996 Exactly. It's really about maintaining power and a class structure that benefits them. I'm from St. Louis and was bussed out to suburban schools starting in the 3rd grade, and I kid you not the 2nd and third graders out there were learning what the 5th graders in the city were learning.
@@morganhillfightclub2996 No because whenever people try to fix poor neighborhoods the locals scream 'Gentrification!' You don't give a homeless man $20 because you know how he will most likely spend it. Why would you give a government cash injection to a low SES, low educated area? Surely the solution lies in actually making fundamental changes to the culture that sustains such poverty i.e. rapping, gang membership > going to school and learning
What up, late night homies
Bitch it's 7:30 here! The fuck do you live?
JL Junio 2:30 AM here in Toronto
JL Junio 1:37 am texas
JL Junio same
Anywhere in the US? It's 2:44 AM here
Just when I needed sources for this topic and I just got done with my presentation is when this video pops up :(
That mom really just let her kid go out in blackface instead of explaining that is inappropriate. YIKES.
@@strangelyukrainian7314 obvious troll is obvious. You already know why it's wrong and you are bringing up a bad faith argument just to court controversy and drama.
How was that kid more inappropriate then any other actor on TV?
If a actor is portraying a Indian he wears skins and feathers after getting a good tan.
If a actor is portraying anyone, that actor dresses and tries to look and act like the person he is portraying.
That kid did exactly what he had to do to be recognized as the person he was portraying.
If he had not blacked his face he would have looked like Hitler instead of King.
If anyone was to blame, it was the teacher that made him try to look like a black man.
@@TheCanopyco you know that blackface isn't ok when it's on TV either, right?
@@TheCanopyco It's equally inappropriate for an actor to put on brown face to play a Native American on TV. If you are casting a character that is a real person, you should always cast someone who is from that actual race (unless you are trying to make a statement like Taika Waititi playing Hitler in Jojo Rabbit where the point is to explicitly disrespect Hitler).
The teacher didn't force that child to put on blackface. The kid could have just put on the suit and the fake moustache. I blame the parent who didn't explain to her child that it's not appropriate to put on blackface.
Most of that "inappropriate" stuff is just pandering to people that want to be offended so that they can manipulate you. It's inappropriate for a white kid to play a black kid, or to tell any race that they can only play the parts that match their race. So, do you let the black kid play the part of a famous white guy, and if so how you going to do that without painting that black kid white. No matter what you do those who want to be offended will be offended
because that gets them what they want.
Great video, but this comment section is the worst thing I've ever had the displeasure of viewing in my entire life.
Really I thought the video was uninformative! It explained next to nothing, played videos from the 60's and had a old black dude talking about racism he faced has a child! WTF does any of that have to do with today? It is illegal for those schools not to allow black kids that live in the district access to those PUBLIC schools! This video was bull shit!
The video wasn't supposed to be a complete detailed history and in depth discussion on segregation, but a conversation starter. Whole books have been written about this subject, if you're hungry to know more than go research. If you want to change something, don't waste time here on RUclips, go call some politicians, start a movement, join a movement. The video was meant to be amusing yet thought provoking to ease dormant and desensitized people into the idea of making a change.
(The point of the older videos was to provide background and history while -I believe- also showing how very little has changed about racism psychologically in our society)
Sarah L First off there is not segregation in 2016! Its fucking illegal! This has more to do with unfair school funding laws and where you live! This also affects poor white kids, in poor white communities! This is all about race baiting and you fell for it!
C'mon Jacob. I suggest you read about "white flight" and "desegregation". Whites had already moved to the suburbs with their wealth before legal housing discrimination and segregation ended in the 60s. In GENERAL, white people control most of the wealth in America for systemic reasons.
Move to a black neighborhood for a few months and get back to me.
That school swap thing was sad
I thought the inherent sexism of the situation was sad. That ''school swap'' contained a rape threat.
its kinda messed up really. SOmebody must have made it to expose the system I guess?
@@L5940 are you talking about that fictional puff piece film section with the blonde haired girl attending a school swap that was obviously a fear-mongering scripted piece? or did i forget something from this really dense video?
Alexander Moehl- because they were forcing kids to buss to alleviate segregation, or because of the inherent racism in allowing kids to attend segregated schools? (i find it best to ask these questions since i'm often surprised at the answers to what people assume to be obvious).
@@slavesforging5361 I think Alexander was referring to the once-a-year, one-day-only school swap between city and county.
Lol I’m watching in 2019 after recently graduating high school thinking, “that’s odd, there was plenty of diversity in my school (Florida)” and the he got to the park where it was largely New Yorkers
My school is near Boston and might have been the school that guy in the video was talking about. Some people have been very against the exchange program (it still exists here, I´m not sure how many students are accepted into it at a time, maybe 30?) but this video explains exactly why I feel like we still need it.
I live in Kenya and 5:09 had me in tears LMFAO😂😂😂😂😂
KIMZ AUTO lol😂😂same
Seems the show has a lot of Kenyan fans. Watching from Kenya too and that come back was golden
Haki. Me to 😂
same bro
eheeeee...he mentions Kenya quite often...either Kenya is the only African country he knows or he's been eating some Kenyan Samosa from Nakuru 😈😈
11:30 - stabbings and drugs are not limited to minority groups miss.
Indeed, in my home town, if you wanted to find kids with serious drug problems, you would have the most luck looking at the private school for rich white kids. Which makes sense, because rich kids could afford more drugs.
Ionlymadethistoleavecoments most the fights In my school are by white people and the drug problems don't seem to have any correlation to race given how many people of different backgrounds that I know do drugs
thexalon I think it would be more helpful if we looked more at socio-economic status and less at skin color when evaluating systemic biases. Racism is a thing, no doubt, but huge swathes of rural America, which tend to be overwhelmingly white, are also mired in poverty and ignorance.
Minorities do them more.
Because of poor education. Its a cycle
i love john oliver. bringing up issues like this all the time. you know, the stuff that actually matters. news these days are more concerned about kanye and kim than really bad things happening around us. thanks john!
This happens in the UK, maybe not by race but by income, I came from a poor home, the richer families went to better secondary schools, my parents couldn't pay for the bus fare to the better rated schools. It turns I went to a really caring school who wanted the best for all pupils, not just good exam results. I was fortunate but a lot of people I've met in my working career do make assumptions on me based on my heavy working class accent, they will assume i'm stupid because they never came across working class people during their education.
Such disparities due to income difference is present in every country whose education system is not strictly socialist. As long as private schools are present, they will be better than government schools, because if they are not, there is no point in them. This is one of the cornerstones of capitalism. As long as you earn good money, you and your children will have better opportunities. This is not so much a problem as racial segregation, because almost all believe racial segregation is bad.
Lol at 8:58 I died laughing because my older brothers name is Dylan... I always knew mother loved him more
Audrey Hebert I don't know him and even I like him
Audrey Hebert everyone has that older brother the mother loves more
I'm white, and I wish I was exposed to more people of color growing up. I live in Maine, and acccording to the census, the population has never dropped below 95% Caucasian. I wasn't exposed to anything outside of what I saw on TV, so as I got older and actually started meeting and making friends with people of color, I became really worried that I might say or do something that would come off as racist without me meaning it to. I'm still really worried about that today. As I've gotten older and considered how isolated I was growing up, I feel like less isolation would have helped me a lot in terms of social interaction & understanding and considering the struggles people of color face today. (I feel like I explained that last part in a weird way, but all right...)
Katie Martin I think you should explain this to your friends of color and ask them to tell you if you ever say something racist or offensive without meaning to. :)
How did make it okay to call blacks colored people again???
that's incredibly racist.
Virginia SuperSand They said people of color, not colored people. People of color(poc) is a widely accepted way to refer to people of different races since this person wasn't just referring to only African Americans but all different races(Asian, Latinx, insert every race that isn't Caucasian). Please learn how to read first before you start calling people with good intentions a racist.
Virginia SuperSand it's called "people first language." Saying colored people was offensive because it boils them down to just their descriptor. Instead when you say people of color, you emphasize that they are people and that their color is one part of them. It's the same reason it's better to say "people with disabilities" instead of "disabled people." There's so much more to them than their disabilities
It's also more inclusive than just saying "black people" because it casts a wider net of people, who may or may not identify as black
I'm from Arkansas We've said this for YEARS!
I've learned sooo much from re-watching this one episode.
I wonder what would happen if you asked our two presidential candidates how to fix segregated schools...
CLINTON: "Well I personally believe that segregation in our schools today is a major problem, which is why I believe that we need to deal with the threat that is Russia immediately."
TRUMP:" Let me be honest with you, school segregation is a problem in this country that especially affects states like Colorado, Florida, Iowa, Michigan, Nevada, New Hampshire, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Virginia and Wisconsin. That's why we need to build a wall around every school and make minorities pay for it. And did mention that I will win the Latino/Hispanic/Muslim/African American/Asian/Women vote?
i don't think trump knows that many states.
SolSmoke teleprompter maybe?
Racism could have been over. The media has kept it alive for money. I'm not just taking about the right leaning media. The left media also fans the flames and tries to get people to believe that cops exclusively kill minorities despite the fact that overall police violence has been steadily going down since the 90s and deaths by police are well rounded across all races
I'll fix that bit:
"... affects states like California... and all of 'em!"
I think psychology kind of proves that racism can never be eradicated.
I've always found the expression "chocolate and vanilla" weird when used to describe contrasting colors. A Vanilla pod is dark brown and the vanilla seeds are black. :S So, well, they're basically the same color.
I love how Dan gurwitch from old-school college humor was in this
A month or so ago a girl in one of my classes said her language arts temporary sub remade a seating chart and put white kids on one side of the class and colored kids on the other, and said she’d be keeping an eye on one side of the room. Big oof, most of those kids reported that teacher, she just got a warning and she changed the seating chart
they never mention asians in these stories. hmmmmm
That is because it will make the black kids look bad, since they bully the Asian kids the most.
Irate People nah it just makes ignorant racists like you look bad :/
You obviously aren't Asian, or you would know that black kids bully Asians the most.
Blacks beat the shit out of Asians that dare to go their school. But thats not racism because only whites can be racist.
Are you really that stupid? Srsly anybody could be racist
I don't do racism..I hate everyone equally.
Hyperion How nice, I hate everyone too, including you, we can be friends
Ms Insanity Can't you? Lol
That's ... even worse.
***** Aww, you learned a new word from urban dictionary. 2edgy4me
This joke stopped being funny years ago.
I attended a high school that was around 4% diverse. Almost all students, teachers, and staff were white. It was a rural white conservative echo chamber. Any opinion that wasn’t the major got shut down and I was often harassed for my political opinions. I wish my school would’ve been more diverse, it definitely would’ve helped mine and other students world view.
I'm from STL.. I remember that.. Actual Facts.
this isn't white guilt, you shouldn't feel personally responsible for this, but yelling " white guilt!!1 " every time someone of your complexion does something wrong rather than face the issue is stupid
you as white people, us a people, should try and help the system
You should stop blaming everything on whites and also stop making up issues where there are none. POC need to take responsibility for their situations in 2016 not just finding a way to relate it back to the whites again. I can say as a white person, we are sick of this bullshit and it is coming to a boiling point. Wouldn't be surprised if there was a race war in a few years...
You're the problem.
Video Editing Guy Thank you for proving my point. Have a racist day :)
Video Editing Guy Yes you did, their point was that you're problematic and your attitude is proving her point.
Also, I'm guessing people in this comment section would like to get rid of affirmative action. Guess what, integrating primary and secondary schools is a great way to making it obsolete.
While I think that's a pretty good suggestion, it still doesn't speak to the institutional racism that still would be in play when it comes to how students are treated. Teachers are not blind and have been known to favor certain students and ignore or berate others. The lesson of how to deal with the issue of racism is still going to exist and still needs to be addressed directly if we really are going to destroy it.
Dean Anderson True. The actual function of interacting with students would be unchanged. I was only trying to address the unfairness people feel around affirmative action, which is sort of necessary given the disparity in elementary and high school education.
But hopefully once you give everyone equal educational opportunities, the amount of students of color in college will rise, and thus teachers and institutions would eventually change their mindset and cater to their needs while challenging their biases.
I guess my problem is I see people purposefully maintaining these issues. In a perfect world, yes racism would have ebbed away. I guess in a "perfect" world, it would never have existed. But the point is, white people have all the advantages. THAT is their "normal." So, when something comes along like Affirmative Action to help balance the playing field, even a little, that is seen as an "attack." This is just one of the dozens of reasons why the conversation about race in America is so difficult and why you hear about white people complaining about "being punished" because they are white.
This is challenging, but if we can't resolve this, there's not much hope for any humans anyhow.
Dean Anderson I feel you. There will absolutely be push back on basic solutions for equality (this comment section is rife with them). Racism won't just be defeated passively by putting people together, but it is the first step. Protests then policy and cultural change are the ultimate goals.
So you don't care about sending kids across the city and not having any parental involvement in their schools?
Or you do support gentrifying communities to help increase diversity?
You are, of course, against segregating college dorms because that's wrong, right? No POC-only dorms or clubs, right?
Unlike most people in this comment section I went to school in a liberal dream of busing city. And it sucked. For the white kids. The black kids. The hispanic kids.
No one's parents came to stuff because it was all the way across the city and especially the poorer parents couldn't make it to any events. Teachers still wouldn't stay at these schools because they're still based on property taxes and sending middle class kids to the ghetto doesn't magically give that school more money.
Also, please tell me where Oliver's kids will go to school? A posh, private school where they'll get a great education or a wonderfully de-segregated, failing public school with metal detectors, no teacher retention, no AP classes, etc?
Be honest.
how much do we, as Americans love this British guy pointing out our historical and current fails? I guess he's the only one with guts enough to do so
"Go back home!" shouted one Amerindian to the whites.
My parents sent me to all white schools because they knew that I would receive a better education and more opportunities than if I went to the schools nearby. The schools were all public but it's amazing to see how many opportunities I as a minority got because I went to a school where there was more whites. New Mac computers, countless college workshops, on-site college recruiters, free ACT and SAT test prep, and so many after school clubs that the other school nearby just didn't have the money for. John Oliver is right, kids need to be exposed to different people. I know for a fact that if I didn't go these nice schools, I would most likely turn out like my cousin with such a closed mind and a criminal record. I also wouldn't have met such amazing people from all backgrounds.
Brian Jones
Did you even watch the video??
@ 13:29 it's shown how blacks benefited from integration, then...
@ 13:39 He explicitly says *"...integration did not have any negative effect on whites, on any metric"*
Well that's part of the problem, isn't it? Should have to go to an all-white school for those opportunities? Should the whites get all the best stuff and the blacks not get it? Especially when this is kids living nearby we're talking about?
undrtakr900 wait Then that means little Rock 9......................TO BE COUNTINUED
SO what you're saying here is not that this is a school segregation problem, but a community segregation problem. To which you never explained why the communities are segregated.
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The poor can't live in other neighborhoods because they can't afford it.
TheFinalChapters because with poorer schools mean poor education which means low paying jobs which means they can't afford (mostly) to move up above what their parents make which means they will settle in the same area repeating the cycle. Or was that subtext not clear enough for you?
sukrpunch So it has nothing to do with race or segregation then.
TheFinalChapters you missed the part where it was the black community school zones that were under funded and how when desegregation cam in all of the sudden the money followed the white children to that school?
sukrpunch Obviously a poorer community is going to result in a poorer school. That has nothing to do with race, merely wealth.
yes Oliver!!!!This is why I watch you every day!!
So this is what John Oliver from Last Week Tonight Show haven't talked about Gwen it for a long time I love when you combine your show and use until next week thank you
Bruh if I want my kid to get a good education I'm gonna move to a good schooling district or send them to private school. This isn't a race issue, it's an economic one, apart from the lack of education of how to deal with other ethnicities, but that comes with time. All of you're videos basically imply we should be a socialist country, do you even think about whether that's ever worked out?
That what he implies with the policies he suggests. Also, who gives a shit about systemic racism, everyone is their own person, can raise there children how they want, and those children are free to form their own opinions as they grow up. Systemic racism is illegal, but classicism cannot be if you want to live in a free country.
Finland, completely socialist school system. Has kicked the US ass in every category school wise. No private schools and all public schools are treated *exactly the same*. You were saying?
Very little impoverished in Finland, plus they can fund their socialist policies for their small population off their natural resources, which we cannot. Socialism successfully for the people only works when no one has to pay for it.
I'm going to run the inverse with you on this one and say it's Systematic Classism that leads to racism. The re-segregation shown in the video exemplified a lot that parents and law makers were tired of their kids going to different schools because they thought they were being used to pad out and fund poor minority schools. That is terrifying to your usual middle class parent since it makes them think they're squandering their child's future and not getting what they paid for, but also because it means they're sending kids to poor latino/black schools they're afraid, as that one lady says, that they're going to get into trouble, because they're poor!
That's not to completely dismiss the racism part. It exists, but I think because latino and black populations have been routinely poor for so long that they're becoming synonymous with societal woes makes the problem much harder to change. That's why I hope then that re-segregation continues to work out because its socio-economic effects are something tangible that can lead to a much easier coexistence.
I don't believe in such high military spending either. but that's not what we were talking about. Also, at this point were just disagreeing on fiscal policy. Why don't all of you just erase your comments and type what ideology you align with; that'll do as much to change everybody's mind as you've done in less words.
Sunday night last minute homework then my ritual wait for john oliver video to post and ignore my homework for 15-20 minutes.
Carlos Rodriguez same lol
vick3d what do you mean?
+vick3d I thought you said you were a member of the "Green Party" despite race-bait trolling on Secular Talk videos? It seems you're just a bitter, resentful, white teabilly. Doesn't sound too "Green Party" to me.
Carlos Rodriguez you could get hbo and spend 30 mins ignoring your homework
I had to replay 7:40 quite a few times, hilarious. I love John Oliver x3
CONNECTICUT PUBLIC SCHOOLS
HARTFORD VS W HARTFORD
IT’S EVERYWHERE
THANKS FOR BRINGING UP THIS MAJOR ISSUE
John Oliver and team: keep up the great work! Your efforts are clever, witty and much appreciated.
Northerners in the civil war era:
"Slavery is an abomination! It's evil!"
Same northerners:
"Ew, get away from me!"
Thats just like me with weebs ahahaha :'l
No the north was racist just less so.
Piano Fry They we’re both equally racist just in different ways .
They right with the first and wrong with the second.
Flint is one city that should be commended for this, even though a large part of the reason was a lack of education funding, they merged school districts that were probably 15-20% African American like Carmen-Answorth with ones like Flint Northern which was probably 80-90% African American.
I just heard my sister Dylan laugh from the next room. I’ve been enlightened
I went to 2 schools in upstate ny, and have been going to a school in louisiana for a few years now. In new york there was one black family in the whole town. I was awkward when talking to and about black folks because I was never exposed. I just didn't know how to act, I didn't want to be rude in any way. But when I moved to louisiana, that awkwardness wore off. I didn't need to learn to coexist because we were different, I needed to learn that we were so incredibly similar we naturally coexist.
This doesn't really make sense as Im re-reading it, but I hope my point gets across. All that seperates white people from a black folks is a few phenotypes and centuries of us being dicks to them for no justifiable reason. Thats my highschool kid perspective
Leon LeBlond I understand perfectly because that’s pretty much what I wanted to say. My God we are people and we all need the same thing to survive 😘
Same thing with me. I didn't have any kids that were non-white in my school until after 8th grade. Then there were 2 black kids and maybe a handful of other minorities... Out of 1,200 kids. 1 of the black kids got bullied so badly that he left our school :/
Do you realize that blacks are a MINORITY in America and that's why you will see less Black kids?! Is it so strange to you to see less Asian kids in your school? Is your school racist against asians?
Leon LeBlond I really like your perspective!
SAY IT AGAIN FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK
Man, sucks for the kids and I can't believe this is still an issue. I was raised in an area with a lot of immigrants from all over the world (Canada), and I don't even remember having any discussions about race with my peers. We didn't even notice it; we all played and got along! The only people who would even bring it up were certain parents, but even they were the minority. I miss those days; a bunch of people working hard and living in peace. Why are we regressing to stupidity?
Polina Sutyrina If only have of all the people out there thought like you ://
There are so many other important things we have to focus on in life like
cure deceases
preserve the environment
explore other planets..
Just why the f are we killing each other for so many years?
I would never harm anyone. I just don't get it.
There are so many possibilities to compete with other people -> sports
Somedays I'm a dreamer... I know but I'm not the only one, right, John?
Polina Sutyrina holy shit we have the same name
Race absolutely shouldn't be an issue, but we're forced to talk about it because unfortunately America never really progressed. We still have a shitload of racists here.
Polina Sutyrina BRO I LIVE IN NEW YORK ITS TRUE ACTUALLY EVERY SCHOOL I GO TO THERE IS BARELY ANY BLACK TEACHERS JUST WHITE TEACHERS I WAS DO FUCKING SHOCKED YALL
I could finish this one I feel what your getting at but when you said "your fav child is Dylan. Well my first born son's name is Dylan" and I'm still freaking over his passing at the age of 20. I have nightmares about him and I see what I think is him when I'm out in public and it tears me apart. It's when I walk up to the kid and call my son's name and the look I get is like ( your nuts) I try to get Thur this and move on with my life but Everytime I think I'm getting better with the fact I'll never see my son again I get reminded when his name comes up. The second I hear that name I start to cry and think of him. The pain and torment of my sons passing has got me as a broken shell of a man. So sorry I couldn't make it through this one. Rest in peace Dylan James Taggi I miss you and will never forget you till we meet again in that great beyond where ever that may be.
I'm from Louisville and I went to public school there from pre school school to high school. Were were bussed from our neighborhoods into a large parking lot, dozens of busses that picked kids up from all over the country, and then we would go to our school bus and it would take us to school every day. We got to pick which school we wanted to go to (some required an interview). I went to a very diverse high school and it was great.