I bought a prodigy 5” and shot it at the same place I bought it. Had ftf and ftb every single round. I took it home and polished everything , installed an egw kit and cleaned and lubed everything. Now it’s the smoothest gun I have and super soft shooting. Barrel fit and slide fit are perfect.
I picked up the first Prodigy that Guns Warehouse in Cedar Park, Texas. It's the 4.25 inch version and runs like a top. Springfield hit a homerun with this.
You took the one I would have bought then! I just called them about one... They have them on order, but none on the shelf now. Trying to find one... Enjoy that great pistol!
@@TheGuitarmageddon - I ended up trading it back Saturday. They may have that one on the shelves. I ended buying a couple of Staccatos from another store.
thanks for a great review. I've heard many issues with this firearm, failure to feed, ejection port etc etc.... then I hear wonderful things with no issues. Thanks for the review I am looking at this one and the operator not taking into account capacity. You helped me, thanks
I got my 1911 TRP Operator Full Rail, about 5-6 ? years ago new.. and I have always been on the fence about modifying it… this answers that need!! I’d probably opt* into the optic !! Christmas 🎁🎄🤗🤣
Finally a poor mans 2011 ! I know its steel vs alum but other wise its a 2011. I hope this gets other gun manufacturers to come out with some as well. Since Para is gone and Rock Island has very few doublestack 1911's we really needed a choice like this. I think its a good option for ccw and home protection and range toy. The alum frame 2011's would be better for competition I believe tho.
I wonder why they didn't texture the finger zone under the trigger guard? This is a fine up date to an already great shooting accurate design it's been waiting for , maybe a new choice for a duty weapon,.
I bought both 4.25 & 5 inch models w/o optic. I took them to the range today and was greatly disappointed. First few rounds out of them felt great, then I had nothing but feed and magazine issues. I shot 250+ rounds out of both, I shot Remington, Federal, Winchester, Sig Elite, Sperry Gold Dot - 115g, 124g, 147g standard and +P, FMJ and JHP and it just did not matter. Out of the 500 rds through both, I had well over 150 fail to feeds. I also had the follower in the magazines get stuck half way and literally could turn the magazine over and rounds fall out. Felt like I was shooting a 22LR with rounds nose diving in the magazine but that was with both the 17 & 20 round mags. Took both back to the LGS and their gunsmith looked at them both and the videos I took showing the issues. They took the magazines apart and the follower was getting jammed in the mag tube, the mag spring was not very strong. The cleaned up the followers so they do not catch now in the mag tube but no change to be honest. I have sent Springfield 2 emails and waiting reply and the LGS is calling them on Tuesday after this holiday weekend to see what can be done to fix this problem. The 4.25 refuses to feed JHP out of any magazine I use, I can rack one in and FTF the next round every time. So for now they are expensive paper weights as I can not trust either one to run if I need it to. Biggest disappointment I have ever had with new out of the box firearms. I was so made I told them take them back and give me the Sig 229 Legion and X-Macro, I know they will run and be dependable. Amazing how all the "Gun Tubers" guns run flawlessly and you get one and issue after issue. Springfield has one chance to make things right or they are gone!
Funny but I haven't seen anybody else in their review videos having this issue WHATSOEVER. Did you post your videos so we can analyze the different aspects involved?
You have posted this exact same comment on numerous videos. I think you’re a paid Staccato shill or have something against Springfield. I have had no issues with my Prodigy.
@@ClickClack_Bam there are a couple popping up with FTF every round or so, however mine ran fine on some reloads and new cartridges. Only FTF was my wife shooting it and that could have been the grip strength. She has small hands so it looks like a deagle in her hands. Me and my dad shot mine no issues, but there are some lemons from some videos I've watched today. So dunno but I seemed to have got a good one 🤞
There is a video on U tube showing the comparison of the mags. Prodigy's Staccattos and CTS mags so you have 2 better options than Springfield for mags at least
S.A. just got into this game…the 1st time a “Big Name” in the 1911 world has done so…give it time…up next is gonna be Kimber, Colt, other “Big Names” will follow…the end result…the customer wins. So yes, “niche” or specialized companies have been put on notice, the “Big Names” are coming for their market share. Maybe those who buy aren’t gonna be your “hardcore, professional” shooters…but enough “regular shooters” will…and there’s A LOT more of them. And I’m pretty sure Law Enforcement Agencies are grouped together with those “regular shooters”…a few orders to outfit a few those SWAT Units…and S.A. is gonna get astounding publicity…resulting in astounding sales…ala “Glock” and their $300 gun sales to Law Enforcement…
@@PatriotPaulUSA Stealth Arms Platypus 2011 uses GLOCK 17 magazine's and you can customize it. Or the Live Free Armory APOLLO 11 $1K. S/A PRODIGY for the win. Took a serious look at the NightHawk THUNDER RANCH COMBAT but 8rds/.45 Auto OR 9mm/10rds. Beautiful and well made. But couldn't justify the high end rifle pricing on a handgun.
I wanna see a plunk test on this barrel with reloads. Seen multiple videos stating damn barrel is to small. All i have is reloads. Dont wanna buy if this thing doesnt eat everything
I just bought a staccato C2 and I sent the grip in for stippling because it was so damn thick and the grip texture was horrible to be honest this pistol is almost half the price and it seems just as good obviously I imagine the quality is not up there as much but seems like it is great!!
If your looking for a range toy the shadow 2 is the best i have shot, however it is insanely heavy so carry would have you looking like you have a load in your drawers, the rival is one bad ass for that kinda money, in fact both canik and girsan are the best bang for the buck i have found, the girsan mc9 t comes with the optic has like a 3lb trigger and is dead nutts accurate right out of the box for 6hundred bucks.
canik rival is way less money and a bad mofo too, but i would check out the girsan mc9 T before i bought the rival, the girsan seems like the same pistol and it comes with the optic, i hate it for american gun makers but the turkish pistols cannot be beat even at much more than their cost, and junk they are not.
TISAS PX-9 GEN3 and has everything included. Amazing trigger, Red Dot capability, upgradeable to GLOCK sights, and takes SIG P226 magazines. Comes with holster, 2X High capacity magazine's and magazine loader. At an amazing price $278.00. First GEN of PX-9 is good enough for the Philippine Military Police 6,000 unit's and the Malaysian Military Police 20,000 unit's.
I think this will be a great option for people wanting to get into the 2011 world at a more affordable price. I don’t think staccato is going anywhere but definitely more people will get a SA DS 1911.
If you really think they're overpriced you don't have any real scope of 2011s. This is barely cheaper, and in fact isn't cheaper if you qualify for their Law Enforcement/Military offers.
I'll certainly be curious how this compares to Staccato and Bul Armory. I've got a Staccato P DPO and think it's over priced for what it is. The trigger in particular isn't worthy of a $2500 gun, especially a 1911 based gun. 🤷🏻♂️
I understand the .45 ACP is the Holy Grail. But they fired a .45 Auto into an old army helmet. It made a dent.Then they fired a plain full metal jacket 9mm into it. It went right through. Now they have advanced the 9mm cartridge ammunition. +P, +P++...from Buffalo Bore and UnderWood ammunition.
There was no movement between the slide and frame because Springfield filled the channels with Ceracote. Dumbest thing ever to paint a pistol. Should have been QPQ or DLC. Other than that it's an awesome pistol.
I wanted to order a prodigy DS with a red dot but after looking at your video I don't like the way to recoil system comes apart that looks like a pain in the butt and I don't like the optic because you have to remove it to change the battery that's 1920s technology they have to move up to the 21st century and make it accessible from the outside. I'll save up a few more bucks and buy a staccato , nice video though.
Get a Dawson Precision Tool Less guiderod. Make life simple. STACCATO is being over rated and is using it's Brand Power. I put a WILSON COMBAT Flat wire spring in my MAGNUM RESEARCH DESERT EAGLE C and she does Double Taps effortlessly. Also put Pachmyr rubber grip's and she's a dream machine. Shoots soft and accurate. It came with two excellent 8rd Mec-Gar magazine's. And I purchased one Chip McCormick PowerMag Plus 10rds/magazine. All at a great price and Davidson Lifetime warranty. If she break's they send me a new one. But she'll never break. Made in ISRAEL BUL factory.
The next similar pistol starts at $1800. They go up to $7500+ So $1500 is a pretty cheap admission to the 2011 style game. My Staccato P with Optics cut and plate, plus threaded barrel, was $3024 with tax and transfer.
Hi Guys! $1,500 is very inexpensive according to several other Custom 1911 makers I have first hand conversations with. Even a Good Production pistol like this should be between $2,000 to $2,300 for what you see here from Springfield Armory. Plus manufacturing processes for gun makers Raw Materials continue to go up in 2022 and 2023. Most of this is due to Joe Biden, and the large amount of inflation. There have been price increases from Cabot custom, alchemy custom weaponry, Les Baer Custom and Sbardella custom to name a few that I know of personally.. 🤠👮🏻♂️👍👏🇺🇸😉. B9USA Sr.
All 1911 2011 type guns use a grip safety. There are some race guns that have it deactivated and pinned solid . Its a different system than your normal striker fired guns.
Did you actually watch the video - he clearly said and showed that it was one of the features that you DON"T lose the rear sight when you install a red-dot.
I bought a prodigy 5” and shot it at the same place I bought it. Had ftf and ftb every single round. I took it home and polished everything , installed an egw kit and cleaned and lubed everything. Now it’s the smoothest gun I have and super soft shooting. Barrel fit and slide fit are perfect.
Which one of the egw kits did you install? Was it hard to do?
Yeah, you can't shoot any new 1911 without stripping the cosmoline off and lubing it up.
@@johnp9402 the ignition kit with lightened hammer 19lbs mainspring
Were you aable to install the kit yourself?
thanks for the info, but it really sucks when you spend more that 1500 on a firearm and you have to make it run " smooth" .
I picked up the first Prodigy that Guns Warehouse in Cedar Park, Texas. It's the 4.25 inch version and runs like a top. Springfield hit a homerun with this.
You took the one I would have bought then! I just called them about one... They have them on order, but none on the shelf now. Trying to find one... Enjoy that great pistol!
@@TheGuitarmageddon - I ended up trading it back Saturday. They may have that one on the shelves. I ended buying a couple of Staccatos from another store.
@@I_Follow_Jesus Is the difference really that significant? Part's quality?
Excellent detailed and thorough review. Learned a lot about the firearm. Stay safe, Cheers
thanks for a great review. I've heard many issues with this firearm, failure to feed, ejection port etc etc.... then I hear wonderful things with no issues. Thanks for the review I am looking at this one and the operator not taking into account capacity. You helped me, thanks
Great video Sir! 👌🏻
Great review. Thanks.
Beatiful pistol. Congrats!
I got my 1911 TRP Operator Full Rail, about 5-6 ? years ago new.. and I have always been on the fence about modifying it… this answers that need!! I’d probably opt* into the optic !! Christmas 🎁🎄🤗🤣
Finally a poor mans 2011 ! I know its steel vs alum but other wise its a 2011. I hope this gets other gun manufacturers to come out with some as well. Since Para is gone and Rock Island has very few doublestack 1911's we really needed a choice like this. I think its a good option for ccw and home protection and range toy. The alum frame 2011's would be better for competition I believe tho.
Looks pretty sweet!
Wow. Awesome.
I wonder why they didn't texture the finger zone under the trigger guard? This is a fine up date to an already great shooting accurate design it's been waiting for , maybe a new choice for a duty weapon,.
I bought both 4.25 & 5 inch models w/o optic. I took them to the range today and was greatly disappointed. First few rounds out of them felt great, then I had nothing but feed and magazine issues. I shot 250+ rounds out of both, I shot Remington, Federal, Winchester, Sig Elite, Sperry Gold Dot - 115g, 124g, 147g standard and +P, FMJ and JHP and it just did not matter. Out of the 500 rds through both, I had well over 150 fail to feeds. I also had the follower in the magazines get stuck half way and literally could turn the magazine over and rounds fall out. Felt like I was shooting a 22LR with rounds nose diving in the magazine but that was with both the 17 & 20 round mags. Took both back to the LGS and their gunsmith looked at them both and the videos I took showing the issues. They took the magazines apart and the follower was getting jammed in the mag tube, the mag spring was not very strong. The cleaned up the followers so they do not catch now in the mag tube but no change to be honest. I have sent Springfield 2 emails and waiting reply and the LGS is calling them on Tuesday after this holiday weekend to see what can be done to fix this problem. The 4.25 refuses to feed JHP out of any magazine I use, I can rack one in and FTF the next round every time. So for now they are expensive paper weights as I can not trust either one to run if I need it to. Biggest disappointment I have ever had with new out of the box firearms. I was so made I told them take them back and give me the Sig 229 Legion and X-Macro, I know they will run and be dependable. Amazing how all the "Gun Tubers" guns run flawlessly and you get one and issue after issue. Springfield has one chance to make things right or they are gone!
Funny but I haven't seen anybody else in their review videos having this issue WHATSOEVER.
Did you post your videos so we can analyze the different aspects involved?
You have posted this exact same comment on numerous videos. I think you’re a paid Staccato shill or have something against Springfield. I have had no issues with my Prodigy.
@@ClickClack_Bam there are a couple popping up with FTF every round or so, however mine ran fine on some reloads and new cartridges. Only FTF was my wife shooting it and that could have been the grip strength. She has small hands so it looks like a deagle in her hands. Me and my dad shot mine no issues, but there are some lemons from some videos I've watched today. So dunno but I seemed to have got a good one 🤞
Too many popping up with failure to feed issues.
There is a video on U tube showing the comparison of the mags. Prodigy's Staccattos and CTS mags so you have 2 better options than Springfield for mags at least
I have one and I am looking forward to testing it out. Thank-you for the Video Review! B9USA Sr.
Prodigy Commander length with the Hex optic is my next purchase.
I wanted to buy this but after comparisons, you know feel, researching reviews, I went with the CZ Shadow 2 SAO!
TACT DRIVER.... plenty of magazine's available.
Priced at $1499 at my LGS. Would like to shoot one before I spend that much.
Just bought the 4.25 in comander size its a close close rival to my stoc.c2 there so close its uncanny
That's the one I want. My Commander-size 1911's are my favorite EDC pistols; 15 rounds in a 1911 sounds like something I need in my life - badly.
I put the 4.25 on layaway I’m so pumped I can’t wait to pay it oFf
S.A. just got into this game…the 1st time a “Big Name” in the 1911 world has done so…give it time…up next is gonna be Kimber, Colt, other “Big Names” will follow…the end result…the customer wins. So yes, “niche” or specialized companies have been put on notice, the “Big Names” are coming for their market share.
Maybe those who buy aren’t gonna be your “hardcore, professional” shooters…but enough “regular shooters” will…and there’s A LOT more of them.
And I’m pretty sure Law Enforcement Agencies are grouped together with those “regular shooters”…a few orders to outfit a few those SWAT Units…and S.A. is gonna get astounding publicity…resulting in astounding sales…ala “Glock” and their $300 gun sales to Law Enforcement…
I hope it inspires other companies to do the same as well.
@@PatriotPaulUSA Stealth Arms Platypus 2011 uses GLOCK 17 magazine's and you can customize it. Or the Live Free Armory APOLLO 11 $1K. S/A PRODIGY for the win. Took a serious look at the NightHawk THUNDER RANCH COMBAT but 8rds/.45 Auto OR 9mm/10rds. Beautiful and well made. But couldn't justify the high end rifle pricing on a handgun.
Can the mag release be switched over for left handed shooters?
Nice review! Mine is on order. The Black point holster, does this clip/thread on the outside of your battle belt?
guide rod not have a hole for a paper clip for removal?
I wanna see a plunk test on this barrel with reloads. Seen multiple videos stating damn barrel is to small. All i have is reloads. Dont wanna buy if this thing doesnt eat everything
From what I have seen and read, these are filled with MIM parts. Makes sense given the price point, but something to consider.
@@rcairflr the one I sampled did *NOT* have a shitty trigger. It was a crisp, 5 lb trigger.
@@rcairflr,
Well, 2.5 lb trigger is for a toy; a range pistol. Reducing the trigger pull or increasing the trigger pull is easy enough.
I just bought a staccato C2 and I sent the grip in for stippling because it was so damn thick and the grip texture was horrible to be honest this pistol is almost half the price and it seems just as good obviously I imagine the quality is not up there as much but seems like it is great!!
I was going to order the STACCATO C2 at a great price. Now I am glad I didn't.
How is the overall smoothness of the slide? I know my Staccato is like butter. Just curious. Thanks guys!
It’s butter!! Just got mine today and can’t stop racking this damn slide lol
@@same.0g760 STOP playing with it or you' go blind.
@@petergozinya6122 I know right 😂
It's on ball barrings.is like glass sliding on glass
@@same.0g760 try a czechmate, it's even better lmao.
How has your 5" model worked for you?
Can you measure the width of the grip and compare it to a standard 1911?
It’s wider! I have several single stack 1911’s and the Prodigy.
Will you compare this to a CZ Shadow 2/TSO? Different platforms yes, but does CZ have more value than this SA?
shadow 2 is litterally almost a full pound heavier, almost bought it but it would be a range toy only, i mean it's a tank,
What is the trigger pull? Looking like cz shadow 2 or canik rival would be more bang for you buck at this point.
Between 4.5 and 5.
If your looking for a range toy the shadow 2 is the best i have shot, however it is insanely heavy so carry would have you looking like you have a load in your drawers, the rival is one bad ass for that kinda money, in fact both canik and girsan are the best bang for the buck i have found, the girsan mc9 t comes with the optic has like a 3lb trigger and is dead nutts accurate right out of the box for 6hundred bucks.
canik rival is way less money and a bad mofo too, but i would check out the girsan mc9 T before i bought the rival, the girsan seems like the same pistol and it comes with the optic, i hate it for american gun makers but the turkish pistols cannot be beat even at much more than their cost, and junk they are not.
TISAS PX-9 GEN3 and has everything included. Amazing trigger, Red Dot capability, upgradeable to GLOCK sights, and takes SIG P226 magazines. Comes with holster, 2X High capacity magazine's and magazine loader. At an amazing price $278.00. First GEN of PX-9 is good enough for the Philippine Military Police 6,000 unit's and the Malaysian Military Police 20,000 unit's.
I’ll stick with Staccato
Hammer Striker is it worth the upgrade from a sig p226 legion sao rxp to a springfield armory prodigy
No . Simply put... I did trade a sig for my 4.25 prodigy
Holster info
could you add a comp to this pistol?
Not without getting a threaded barrel fitted.
I like that 1911 really don't like the polymer grip so i will get a colt m45a1 but good video
1911s are single stack, with 6-8 round mags. This really is a 2011, a doublestack 17-20 round mags.
@@PatriotPaulUSA Get the Chip McCormick PowerMag 10 round for your 1911. Dependable and reliable quality.
I saw that and now I am not interested.
@@BaddFrogg777 yeah i like 1911's more than the 2011's
@@BaddFrogg777 yeah that sounds good but i don't have a 1911 yet i got a canik instead but i will still try to get a 1911
I need help so bad
R.I.P overpriced Staccato.
I think this will be a great option for people wanting to get into the 2011 world at a more affordable price.
I don’t think staccato is going anywhere but definitely more people will get a SA DS 1911.
If you really think they're overpriced you don't have any real scope of 2011s. This is barely cheaper, and in fact isn't cheaper if you qualify for their Law Enforcement/Military offers.
Lol! The fact you think that shows you have no idea what you're talking about. No one, but the poors wants Springfield Armory trash in competition.
@@paulparadis66 where do you compete?
I'll certainly be curious how this compares to Staccato and Bul Armory. I've got a Staccato P DPO and think it's over priced for what it is. The trigger in particular isn't worthy of a $2500 gun, especially a 1911 based gun. 🤷🏻♂️
Why can't this be in . 45.
I believe Springfield said its coming later.
I understand the .45 ACP is the Holy Grail. But they fired a .45 Auto into an old army helmet. It made a dent.Then they fired a plain full metal jacket 9mm into it. It went right through. Now they have advanced the 9mm cartridge ammunition. +P, +P++...from Buffalo Bore and UnderWood ammunition.
@@BaddFrogg777 I get it. I less . 45 gets attention 9mm has one
How many rounds did you shoot and malfunctions almost every review that isn't a paid review has a lot of malfunctions
Thanks HS. Great job. Good info. God bless.
LETS GO BRANDON
There was no movement between the slide and frame because Springfield filled the channels with Ceracote. Dumbest thing ever to paint a pistol. Should have been QPQ or DLC. Other than that it's an awesome pistol.
🤙👊💪🇺🇲
I wanted to order a prodigy DS with a red dot but after looking at your video I don't like the way to recoil system comes apart that looks like a pain in the butt and I don't like the optic because you have to remove it to change the battery that's 1920s technology they have to move up to the 21st century and make it accessible from the outside. I'll save up a few more bucks and buy a staccato , nice video though.
I guess other optics don't exist
Get a Dawson Precision Tool Less guiderod. Make life simple. STACCATO is being over rated and is using it's Brand Power. I put a WILSON COMBAT Flat wire spring in my MAGNUM RESEARCH DESERT EAGLE C and she does Double Taps effortlessly. Also put Pachmyr rubber grip's and she's a dream machine. Shoots soft and accurate. It came with two excellent 8rd Mec-Gar magazine's. And I purchased one Chip McCormick PowerMag Plus 10rds/magazine. All at a great price and Davidson Lifetime warranty. If she break's they send me a new one. But she'll never break. Made in ISRAEL BUL factory.
And today he prob has a rmr but complaining about removal for bat changes @darkedge117
Noooooo #45cal 😭🤬🤦🏽‼️
Benedict Armory 2011. The sellouts will love this.
@S.L. Yeah actually they did. Fake apology and all there sheepie. It's sad you don't believe the facts.
Paul Pardis it’s okay to say you don’t like a company or product. To each their own but to make up lies for your reasoning is childish.
@@tomk9237 I'm so sick of Everything haven politics thrown in. Enough all ready!!!
KnifeMaker
It's all over the web this gun is a Jamon magic, failures to feed galore,not buying it sounds like a mess of a new firearm roll out
Springfield just priced an old favorite right out of most price they are willing to spend. TOO MUCH MONEY folks
JMO
God Bless
The next similar pistol starts at $1800.
They go up to $7500+
So $1500 is a pretty cheap admission to the 2011 style game.
My Staccato P with Optics cut and plate, plus threaded barrel, was $3024 with tax and transfer.
an old favorite? What comparable firearm similar or less? This competes with Staccatos primarily. This is NOT a classic 1911 platform.
Old favorites didn't hold 20 rounds in a mag either tho did they ?
Hi Guys! $1,500 is very inexpensive according to several other Custom 1911 makers I have first hand conversations with. Even a Good Production pistol like this should be between $2,000 to $2,300 for what you see here from Springfield Armory. Plus manufacturing processes for gun makers Raw Materials continue to go up in 2022 and 2023. Most of this is due to Joe Biden, and the large amount of inflation. There have been price increases from Cabot custom, alchemy custom weaponry, Les Baer Custom and Sbardella custom to name a few that I know of personally.. 🤠👮🏻♂️👍👏🇺🇸😉. B9USA Sr.
@@richardshippful OuCh!!! Never sell it or keep it at least 10 years for feasibility.
I would buy a Springfield if they got rid of that stupid grip safety.
Agree
All 1911 2011 type guns use a grip safety. There are some race guns that have it deactivated and pinned solid . Its a different system than your normal striker fired guns.
L
Once again another asinine decision to build an optics ready handgun that removes the rear sight. No thank you
Did you actually watch the video - he clearly said and showed that it was one of the features that you DON"T lose the rear sight when you install a red-dot.
The optic plates have rear sights built-in.
Lol the plate has the sight on it, bud.
@@getyourguns4000 AweSoMe.....
This the ignorance I b talking when it's a Springfield gun let it been a sig folks would ignore all issued like they always do