1983 San Marino Bike GP | Freddie Spencer vs Kenny Roberts

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    The end of the 1983 Bike GP season featured a classic Italian finale at the San Marino Grand Prix and capped off a season long duel between Freddie Spencer and Kenny Roberts that had left just a two-point gap in the results leading up to the final round.
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Комментарии • 42

  • @Jodyrides
    @Jodyrides 2 года назад +39

    Freddy was the smoothest, least abusive on his machine rider I ever saw.
    when Freddy was racing in the club races when he was in his teens, his machine sounded like he was just out for a smooth relaxed ride. His downshifts did not bounce off of red line. He used the entire width of the track. He had the highest exit speeds. When he was 16 or 17, you could see he had something. It looked like he wasn’t even working up a sweat while he would be running away with the race.. Little did we know he was going to win the 500 cc and the 250cc world championships, Both in the same year..

    • @Jungleland33
      @Jungleland33 11 месяцев назад +2

      God I'd love to witnessed that. Lucky you.

    • @erniemathews5085
      @erniemathews5085 11 месяцев назад

      Freddy was special. As was said he just flowed, but winning the 250 and 500 championships hurt him: that extreme concentration level twice in such a short time he lost his ...edge?

    • @Rollin_L
      @Rollin_L 10 месяцев назад +1

      @jodyfresnack4758 & @erniemathews5085 No doubt Freddie was special. I first saw him in '82 at Laguna Seca, and for several years after there, as well as at at Daytona, a couple of British GPs (including 1983 at Silverstone) and even when he was riding the Two Brothers twin in the AMA series. I also saw Kenny Roberts at those Laguna and Daytona races, as well as Silverstone. Both were amazing, and I'd say Freddie had a more natural talent while Kenny had the more scientific, developed approach to his skills. Neither was superior to the other, and that epic 1983 season came down to chance as much as anything else. Had the tragic, fatal accident not happened at Silverstone, for example, Freddie would have had 3rd place points at best, maybe 4th place. The race was scored on two legs with total elapsed time, and Freddie's faster push starts with the 3-cylinder machine- vs the hard-starting fours of Roberts and Lawson- led to the slightly shorter combined elapsed time for that short first leg. That literally made the difference for Freddie and his 2nd place points total. A full length race would have given Kenny the points margin to win that title, no matter what Freddie did in Sweden and San Marino.

    • @c10wiremantawwallace13
      @c10wiremantawwallace13 8 месяцев назад +1

      Freddy was great but he wasn't as smooth as Kenny Roberts in a rain race!!! Their racing records are proof of that fact. There is a reason why Kenny Roberts has more championships under his belt than Freddy Spencer ended his career with. Freddy had only 2 500cc titles to 3 times for Kenny Roberts.
      I was at every US Grand Prix back in those days. Freddy has stated that Kenny Roberts was always a real challenge to beat, and he was much older than Freddy Spencer & that EXPERIENCE was always a big factor.
      I think Mark Márquez would have had a hard time beating either one of them back in that time. The 500cc two strokes tended to spit riders off all the time.

  • @bladerunnergonzalez
    @bladerunnergonzalez 2 года назад +15

    A season to remember!!!!!...1983....GREAT SEASON...FANTASTIC RIDERS!!!!...GOOD OLD TIME MOTORCYCLING!!!❤️❤️❤️🏆🏆🏆

  • @rolandaushilfstrucker2385
    @rolandaushilfstrucker2385 2 года назад +11

    The tow stroke era the best time 🏍️🏍️🏍️🌪️🌪️🌪️😍😍

  • @zxr-cade2026
    @zxr-cade2026 2 года назад +10

    What a shame this rivalry was so short lived

  • @jackringo9878
    @jackringo9878 10 месяцев назад +5

    With the 500 cc two-stroke engines

  • @dennycrane6253
    @dennycrane6253 2 года назад +7

    Love Kenny too

  • @jimcox4728
    @jimcox4728 10 месяцев назад +5

    King Kenny & fast Freddy Spencer!

    • @nunzioago8265
      @nunzioago8265 8 месяцев назад

      Avec les meilleurs machines

  • @dennycrane6253
    @dennycrane6253 2 года назад +6

    Love fred

  • @donnymurray5173
    @donnymurray5173 6 месяцев назад +4

    In 80s, most the best riders were American.

    • @zacharyradford5552
      @zacharyradford5552 4 месяца назад +1

      No not “most” but the best where Americans period.

  • @muhammadsteinberg
    @muhammadsteinberg Год назад +5

    He kept saying Robert's could slow the pace (supposedly so his team-mate could come up and work together). Really ridiculous because Freddy knew how to work the track and wasn't going to be boxed in with that tactic.
    It's been decades and I don't recall Kenny Roberts ever slowing down. He was never balls to wall crazy like Kevin Schwartz but he rode on the edge.

    • @jamiejmasters4818
      @jamiejmasters4818 8 месяцев назад

      Even if Kenny had been able to slow the pace without losing the lead, Eddie in his rookie year at the GP's just didn't have the pace to keep up Freddy & the King. What a season that was 40 plus years ago !

  • @maniakmotorofficial2651
    @maniakmotorofficial2651 2 года назад +3

    And now, Freddie Spencer is one of the guy who made penalty decisions funny

  • @olivertoeknuckleiii2093
    @olivertoeknuckleiii2093 7 месяцев назад

    Spencer was “adaptable.” As a kid, he used to practice bike control skills on wet leaves, mud, dirt and every other condition that he could think of. This made Freddy comfortable in conditions that most riders retried to avoid. Not to mention AMA Flatrack racing….

  • @queenslander954
    @queenslander954 5 месяцев назад

    What happened to Freddie after 1985 ? Where He won 7 x 500 races & the Championship along also with the 250 title
    but won no races in 1986 or any other year until 82-83 he retired ? What happened

    • @dukevideo
      @dukevideo  5 месяцев назад +1

      a wrist injury (carpal tunnel syndrome aka "Racer's Wrist") plagued his career and particularly from the 1986 season onwards and he was never at the same level as he was during his utterly dominant 1985 season.

    • @marcushinton772
      @marcushinton772 2 месяца назад

      I may be wrong but I think his father either had a serious accident and died, plus his relationship broke up and that affected him, great shame as on another level

  • @pauloluna9208
    @pauloluna9208 11 месяцев назад +3

    Only Mamola has today's ride style!

  • @Leonardo0026
    @Leonardo0026 5 месяцев назад

    io ero lì sulla curva tosa!

  • @kevinshea2097
    @kevinshea2097 Год назад +1

    Anybody know the name of the race commentator doing this race

  • @JL-qe5gl
    @JL-qe5gl 2 месяца назад +1

    500cc champions ‘78 to ‘93:
    78 Roberts
    79 Roberts
    80 Roberts
    81 Lucchinelli
    82 Uncini
    83 Spencer
    84 Lawson
    85 Spencer
    86 Lawson
    87 Gardner
    88 Lawson
    89 Lawson
    90 Rainey
    91 Rainey
    92 Rainey
    93 Schwantz
    For 16 years from 78-93 USA riders were not champions only 3 years 81, 82, 87
    The last 500 champion from USA on 2-strokes was Kenny Roberts Jr. in 2000

  • @pd1648
    @pd1648 8 месяцев назад +1

    Where did the Usa guys go?

    • @jeanclaudevivier7126
      @jeanclaudevivier7126 8 месяцев назад

      Très juste !!!

    • @Contato1001
      @Contato1001 7 месяцев назад

      @@jeanclaudevivier7126 please explain, in English if possible

    • @Contato1001
      @Contato1001 7 месяцев назад

      @ pd1648 I would like to know this as well !

  • @RonRussell-sj1zf
    @RonRussell-sj1zf Месяц назад

    Slow the pace down? Are you serious? Do that and Roberts would see Spencer in front of him.

  • @santiagodolzllombart9693
    @santiagodolzllombart9693 2 года назад

    RR RACE GASS VIVA.🇪🇦🇪🇦

  • @ayrtonsenna7079
    @ayrtonsenna7079 Год назад

    SUPER BEELDEN

  • @sqd37l
    @sqd37l 3 дня назад

    when both were in their prime, Roberts had more talent

  • @michaelspears4947
    @michaelspears4947 7 месяцев назад +2

    The unrideables

  • @user-vj4iv6wt9j
    @user-vj4iv6wt9j 6 месяцев назад

    O αθλητιμος δεν έχει άθλημα όλα είναι μεράκι ταλέντο κ δουλειά

  • @Contato1001
    @Contato1001 7 месяцев назад

    I wonder what happened to Freddie Spencer after 1985, he simply did NOTHING anymore, not even podium finishes

    • @dukevideo
      @dukevideo  7 месяцев назад +1

      He injured his wrist and was troubled with issues related to it for the rest of his career unfortunately, so this most likely explains the drop in performance from 1986 onwards.

    • @ReinhardPriller-ck9ny
      @ReinhardPriller-ck9ny 3 месяца назад

      he had a comeback with yamaha ( Agostini‘s team), but not sucessfull. He suffered from his carpal-tunnel sydrom especially his right hand

  • @aomimi4594
    @aomimi4594 7 месяцев назад

    2ストGPエキサイティングだった。4ストmotoになって興味失せたよ。キングケニーとファストフレディ 夢の様だ。