btw, guys Effort is nicknamed as a 'hawk' in S.Korea due to his apearance (mostly his eyes). Thus several nicknames came along as well. 'Hawkeye', which intends to express Effort's wide view in his game against his opponent. Funny one is 'Messiah". Hawk is pronounced as 'Meh' in korean language. thus people call him as 'Messiah', which stands for Savior, and it certainly reminds of Savior :). Just for your information.
Man...Stork had that game 2 reasons why he lost 1) At the near end, he shouldn't have wasted his army to try to go through those 7 sunkens. Its not worth it, he should have committed more to drops or maybe even recall 2) The map let you get 3/4 gas easily which means Z can just protect its nat (which Effort made 7 sunks) and get free gas. Free gas for Zerg = Ultralings and hive tech I swear, Stork had this game..damn
concentrated on too many Corsairs, Dragoons, which when he only had 1 gas wasted his gas too much. He started producing templers and archons, but it was too late :S
Quite simply: any other Protoss after a failed 3gate would be forced to GG in 15 minutes tops (against EffOrt in flawless form). Stork's worst matchup is still a solid 55% win rate, just not nearly as great as his PvT or PvP. And without that amazing muta-split, the 'sairs would have bought him enough time to tech up, start harassing and level the playing field. It's a testament to his greatness that he managed to get that far. It requires two amazing players to provide this level of play.
7 mutas are worth more than the nexus at a mineral only at that stage, and yes he would have lost them if he had stuck around any longer. that muta split was a thing of beauty too...
No he didnt. Effort was in control the whole game, he held off stork with minimal forces and kept loads of money in his bank for ultras. And guess what, as soon as the ultra got out it was instant win.
Stork let himself become the reactionary person in this matchup. In PvZ, it's supposed to be P controlling what the Z builds; it's not supposed to be the other way around. Also, is it just me or did Effort's build look like ZvT? He went mutas into lurkerling, followed by dark swarm and ultraling. It worked for him, but this was a pretty weird ZvP.
Stork failed at a 3gate, instead of a tech or econ start and had to keep pumping units instead of teching. With tier 1-1.5 armies going against lurker/lings, he couldn't do his staple harass to EffOrt's economy, and his Archons were futile due to the availability of defiler/ultra/ling thanks to the unharassed 2 gas expo. Stork's economy was harassed, his build order failed, he was out-teched, Eff0rt is in top form, PvZ is Stork's worst matchup, and it still required 24 minutes. Stork rocks.
Stork wasn't winning: he wasn't putting any serious pressure on Effort's bases. He had some ineffective corsair harrass, but that was it -- he didn't disrupt his opponent's econ at all. Effort put down 6 sunkens at the beginning of the game, and Stork didn't kill a single one until the final battle that lost him the game. Sad to watch as a P player :(
I think effort rly pressured him, but I was expecting at least one, two reaver/storm drops ... and I don't believe that he couldn't squize a shuttle pass the scourge ...
I am so confused ... Stork started with early triple gate dicing to 2x zealot + dragoon the ramp? Why? He could just open standard with Pylon on 7, Forge on 10 , GW after ... Instead he decided to triple GW ? LOL? Another thing ... he got ovie on 15min? I mean for such a high level pro, to tech to ovie in 15min is just crap ...? He lost 2many casualties to the lurkers, due to this late tech ? and IDD ... wtf with the stormings? I mean srsly I didn't saw one storm? Also no Shuttle play?
Fbh gave 0 wins and 4 losses... Miracle gave 2 wins against cj's second best Zerg. I think it's time fbh goes to air force. Someone needs to take his ceremony and smile away in strict manner lol
Thats was my point, effort didnt have the upper hand or at least looked like it but managed to accumulate a shitloads of ressources while effectively stopping stork's pushes to finally rape him with ultras. Everything Stork tried failed.
How was Effort in control the whole game? As soon as his mutas did zero damage and got raped by sairs, Effort was in big trouble. P had the same number of bases as Z (which is not good for Z) and even with ultras, Effort barely managed to win. Even the Korean commentators said that Stork was winning, I'm sure they know alot more than you do. Effort in his interview about this game said 'things were not going his way cuz he was nervous'. Yet u say Effort was in control the whole game? lmao
ultralisk rullz :) what can i say more...they are great..and effective..it's good if u store some minerals for them..as it seen in this replay...gg stork anyways...he had the victory in his hands...
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20:56 ??? : 후속병력 계속 오거든요!! 송병구!!
질럿 3마리 달려오고있음ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
btw, guys Effort is nicknamed as a 'hawk' in S.Korea due to his apearance (mostly his eyes). Thus several nicknames came along as well. 'Hawkeye', which intends to express Effort's wide view in his game against his opponent. Funny one is 'Messiah". Hawk is pronounced as 'Meh' in korean language. thus people call him as 'Messiah', which stands for Savior, and it certainly reminds of Savior :). Just for your information.
테란전은 템없이 아비터에 지상병력만 운용하는경우 있어도 저그전은 써야지...투가스로 커세어에 드라군다수 뽑으니까 가스가 부족했던거 같은데 판단미스인듯. 김정우도 템없으니까 저글링만 뽑아서 이득보는교환하잖아
이 포스트시즌에 김정우 포스는 진짜ㅋㅋ 엄청났다.
ㅈㄹ ㅋㅋㅋㅋ 그러고 이제동한테 에결 개발리고 결승도 못갔는데
HOLY GOD! Effort is really amazing for the last 2 months.
아 김정우 실수로 울트라를 먹었어요!!!
ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
송병구의 천적:전태양,김정우,신노열,허영무,박세정 등
추가로 전상욱과 어윤수도 있습니다.
Man...Stork had that game
2 reasons why he lost
1) At the near end, he shouldn't have wasted his army to try to go through those 7 sunkens. Its not worth it, he should have committed more to drops or maybe even recall
2) The map let you get 3/4 gas easily which means Z can just protect its nat (which Effort made 7 sunks) and get free gas. Free gas for Zerg = Ultralings and hive tech
I swear, Stork had this game..damn
Stork's scout probe control was outstanding
concentrated on too many Corsairs, Dragoons, which when he only had 1 gas wasted his gas too much. He started producing templers and archons, but it was too late :S
Some song from the album "death magnetic" by metallica don't know what song exactly..
해설 진짜 못들어주겠네 ㅋㅋㅋ 캐스터가 게임을 더 잘본다는 말이 맞구만 ㅋㅋ
Quite simply: any other Protoss after a failed 3gate would be forced to GG in 15 minutes tops (against EffOrt in flawless form). Stork's worst matchup is still a solid 55% win rate, just not nearly as great as his PvT or PvP. And without that amazing muta-split, the 'sairs would have bought him enough time to tech up, start harassing and level the playing field.
It's a testament to his greatness that he managed to get that far. It requires two amazing players to provide this level of play.
WHERE THE HECK WERE THE STORMS?!?!
Why wasnt there ANY storm o0?
7 mutas are worth more than the nexus at a mineral only at that stage, and yes he would have lost them if he had stuck around any longer.
that muta split was a thing of beauty too...
No he didnt. Effort was in control the whole game, he held off stork with minimal forces and kept loads of money in his bank for ultras. And guess what, as soon as the ultra got out it was instant win.
Stork let himself become the reactionary person in this matchup. In PvZ, it's supposed to be P controlling what the Z builds; it's not supposed to be the other way around.
Also, is it just me or did Effort's build look like ZvT? He went mutas into lurkerling, followed by dark swarm and ultraling. It worked for him, but this was a pretty weird ZvP.
Stork failed at a 3gate, instead of a tech or econ start and had to keep pumping units instead of teching. With tier 1-1.5 armies going against lurker/lings, he couldn't do his staple harass to EffOrt's economy, and his Archons were futile due to the availability of defiler/ultra/ling thanks to the unharassed 2 gas expo.
Stork's economy was harassed, his build order failed, he was out-teched, Eff0rt is in top form, PvZ is Stork's worst matchup, and it still required 24 minutes. Stork rocks.
amazing game. few obs, few dts.. no storms, no reavers. dunno why
thank you, i didnt know that
OMG!!! so exciting game!!!, this is one of the best game that i have seen!!!!! =DDD
Stork wasn't winning: he wasn't putting any serious pressure on Effort's bases. He had some ineffective corsair harrass, but that was it -- he didn't disrupt his opponent's econ at all. Effort put down 6 sunkens at the beginning of the game, and Stork didn't kill a single one until the final battle that lost him the game.
Sad to watch as a P player :(
so is khan out of proleague ?
Effort had saved up resources for an ultralisk explosion.
Stork was trying to see if Protoss can win without HT or Reavers vs Zerg :P
I think effort rly pressured him, but I was expecting at least one, two reaver/storm drops ... and I don't believe that he couldn't squize a shuttle pass the scourge ...
THE WEATHER WAS TOO GOOD :P
What the hell was he saying at 00:40? Does any korean speaker know?
wft? no observers, no storms, no dts, no reavers
관중석에 인간 부부젤라가 있네
But....but.....but.....what about Jaedong?????
I am so confused ... Stork started with early triple gate dicing to 2x zealot + dragoon the ramp? Why? He could just open standard with Pylon on 7, Forge on 10 , GW after ... Instead he decided to triple GW ? LOL?
Another thing ... he got ovie on 15min? I mean for such a high level pro, to tech to ovie in 15min is just crap ...? He lost 2many casualties to the lurkers, due to this late tech ?
and IDD ... wtf with the stormings? I mean srsly I didn't saw one storm? Also no Shuttle play?
absolute clutch play by effort
you hear wrong.
If Stork just would have upgraded disruption web for the corsairs, he would have given effort a hard time..
Fbh gave 0 wins and 4 losses...
Miracle gave 2 wins against cj's second best Zerg.
I think it's time fbh goes to air force. Someone needs to take his ceremony and smile away in strict manner lol
omg i cant belive khan had lost after 3-1...
ahhh... no comment
GG
Thats was my point, effort didnt have the upper hand or at least looked like it but managed to accumulate a shitloads of ressources while effectively stopping stork's pushes to finally rape him with ultras. Everything Stork tried failed.
How was Effort in control the whole game? As soon as his mutas did zero damage and got raped by sairs, Effort was in big trouble. P had the same number of bases as Z (which is not good for Z) and even with ultras, Effort barely managed to win.
Even the Korean commentators said that Stork was winning, I'm sure they know alot more than you do. Effort in his interview about this game said 'things were not going his way cuz he was nervous'.
Yet u say Effort was in control the whole game? lmao
That was amazing!
lol @ 20:42 he consumed an ultralisk ^^
i know that you were reffering to someone else......i just.......had to say somthing xD
20:40 - Oh stork, i pray to god you don't kill the sunks or hell you are gonna face some fucking hungry ass ultras
game woulda been faster if that nexus was taken down. Like 1 more volley...
Jaedong better watch out!!
EFFORT IS COMING FOR YOU!!!
ultralisk rullz :) what can i say more...they are great..and effective..it's good if u store some minerals for them..as it seen in this replay...gg stork anyways...he had the victory in his hands...
Only that it didn't won him the game
kekekekekekekeke
I hear that psi storm is useless in PvZ
stork did 1a2a3a without thinking and failed hard
김캐리는 이랬다저랬다 판을 전혀 못 읽네
gogogogo stork!!! u are the best protoss
NICE COMEBACK =)
STARVING
lol 2 times nexus was almost destroyed should have finished it though
I knew the result before the game, PvZ has been imbalanced for quite long time already
pretty much...
stork had it .....
Alien wins.
EPIC
wow!!!!
really funny, i laughted with your comment =D, good joke man
SADFACE
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