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@@GamerDuDimanche1456 hi! editor here. no AI was used - all Kate as always, just a different take edited differently than the main portion. Apologies for the uncanniness in the transition :)
I've read that early American settlers would eat anything they could hunt. (The flavor varied greatly.) It's likely that most people living in wilderness areas throughout history did the same. But once most of the carnivores have been hunted, all that's left are the herbivores. (And with no predators, their population increases.) It's much easier to domesticate herbivores. Now why not just eat the plants instead? The reason is that most livestock eat plants that humans can't eat.
CGP Grey summarized it best: "Ten pounds of grass make a pound of cow, and ten pounds of cow make a pound of tiger. But cow and tiger have the same amount of calories, so you might as well just eat the cow."
Hence why veganism would cost less if it weren't for the subsidies provided to the meat industry And having 1/10 as much farmland would mean 1/10 as much chemical runoff, also fixing the problem of the Dead zone in the Gulf of Mexico.
I could think of many things: - their diet is too expensive - you cannot herd them - they might attack you - they are probably territorial, no chance of having lots of them in a small area
For most of human history, eating a carnivore would've just been HARD. Why fight a bear for it's meat when you could hunt a deer, where you'd be less likely to get injured and die? Then as a course, we'd never develop the taste/immune system/etc. for eating predators.
I think the first part of what of what you said is correct. I don't know about the taste/ immune system part. It makes sense that herd animals would be the choice to hunt over more solitary animals, which is also why we eat fish that are predators, as they tend to swim in schools. It's about calories per effort. The Native Americans knew it was much more cost effective to herd a group of buffalo over a cliff than to hunt down solitary predators.
Yep. She forgot to mention the fact that 0 of the carnivores she mentioned actively hunt and eat other carnivores In fact - humans are unique in this situation that they CAN and WOULD actually taste carnivores, since we ascended beyond the food chain to such a degree. The only other animals who eat carnivores are scavengers, not predators.
Still it’s surprising I mean you can’t just walk into a store these days and ask for a bear, fox or dog. Heck it’s look down apon to eat things such as dogs. Still it is surprising that carnivores are still so rare to find to eat
Conversely for seafood, we humans predominantly eat carnivorous fish, while we rarely eat herbivorous fish. Herbivore fish taste like the plants they eat. Which isn't good.
I think the reason why is because there aren’t that many of them and they aren’t very large either. Whereas Tuna, Salmon, etc can get pretty large, taste good and because we don’t farm them, we don’t have to pump resources into them
It's not about taste. There just aren't very many, they're not particularly big, and they have a significant risk of being toxic. People eat them anyway, but it's not common because it's not efficient.
i find it really funny you use an aligator in a farm as an example of "we don't farm carnivores" when infact we litterally have aligator farms for their meat in Louisiana
I wouldn't be so sure on that hypothesis as a discovery was made in Africa in Kenya or Tanzania that homo erectus regularly hunted carnivorous in that area for food
Yes, I thought of this, too. Especially since it also explains why we would have an exception for carnivorous fish: fish generally aren't as dangerous as carnivorous land animals.
I think you kinda missed what's imo the big one: we don't just eat herbivores, we specifically eat ruminants and fowl (and pork, which is also the most common meat, but I'll get back to that), which are animals that eat grass and seeds. Specifically, those are things that human derive little to no nutrition from, but are incredibly abundant. For most of human history (really, all of it prior to the Second Agricultural Revolution), we didn't grow food to feed animals, we just let them graze on otherwise unused grassland or hay, which is effectively a byproduct of the grains we actually eat. As such, they were basically a way of converting inedible plant matter into stuff we can actually eat. Pigs are the big exception to that, in that they don't eat grasses primarily. However, they do eat anything. All of the waste and scraps that get produced by people can be fed to pigs, and they'll also happily find food in an otherwise barren field. Basically, the reason we eat those animals primarily is just because those animals were effectively no-effort food sources at a time when food production was the vast majority of human labour.
This should get pinned well said. It makes sense that we'd find the most efficient way to satisfy our need for food and what could be easier than eating animals that eat the stuff we don't eat or need makes perfect sense... imagine trying to catch antelope to feed to your leopard so you can eat it 😂😂
The pig is a tricky one though, if you only feed it trash, the meat will taste like trash, unless you fed it good quality food the last few months of it life, making its meat mid quality, but if you fed it with high quality food all its life, you end up with good quality meat (let's ignore for a moment the different breeds and how the environment can influence on the quality)
Yes, and this points out a very good reason why the religion hypothesis doesn't really hold up: both Judaism and Islam prohibit pork, and yet it is the most consumed meats on the planet. If that were a cultural factor, it would mean western cultures would not eat so much of it.
Since the 2nd Agricultural Revolution, we waste a huge amount of resources like land and fresh water to produce animal products. Animal agriculture is the top cause of deforestation, and biodiversity loss. It is also a major cause of climate change, water pollution, ocean dead zones, and the threat of zoonotic diseases, and antibiotic resistance. It is long past the time to change to a plant based food production system!
You missed the basic point, carnivores usually reproduce at lower numbers and lower frequency than herbivores. It is easier to extinct tigers than sheep.
I think we also have an unspoken alliance with carnivores--or better put---hunters. We respect them. As long as they don't bother us we don't bother them (mostly). That and they're a lot more clever than herbivores.
I don’t think that’s really a point since companies would just overproduce to compensate for the lower frequency. It’s most likely a bunch of those reasons to make the whole picture.
Yeah, it's already obvious. Why would early humans go for a single dangerous tiger that will literally turn you into its prey, rather than a herd of sheep that's easier to catch. And pretty sure the big boys won't easily get swayed like the early dogs.
A point about the inefficiency of cows, though, which I think is important to point out Historically, raising cattle (not just cows but sheep and goats too) was done in areas where it was hard to grow crops, but where grass grew readily. Humans can't eat grass, so it was an easy way to turn inedible calories into edible ones. It didn't matter that it took 10000 calories of grass to make 1000 calories of cow because those 10000 calories of grass were useless to us. It wasn't that different from the fish example. Then we started growing crops to feed the cattle tho, which kind of defeats the purpose of having the cattle in the first place. But originally at least, it made perfect sense.
another point is that our digestion systems are significantly less adapted for grass than a cow is, so regardless of how many calories exist in grass we can't directly benefit from it without farming animals who do have digestion systems capable of digesting said grass.
Even now, it *sort* of does. Some percentage of a harvest of say, wheat is usually pretty poor quality, you might eat it if you were starving and it would be pretty horrible (it would probably be grits or porridge because the protein content is too low for bread or pasta), but in an otherwise abundant food environment, it's going to go to waste. There are also fodder crops like alfalfa that grow more readily in poor soil but are also not very nutritious for humans. Finally there's waste products from the food industry like sugar beet pulp or molasses. Not to say high quality human edible grains are not fed to cattle sometimes, especially in the US where it is extremely cheap to produce, but there's still a lot of sources of animal feed which could not be easily diverted for human use.
Just like you said. Additionally, for millions of years of human history and teens of thousands of years of history, animals and land was plentiful until very very recently. Herbivores were pests in agricultural areas, especially after dangerous carnivore threats/competitors were eliminated. So hunting deer, elk, antelope, horse, rabbit, etc. became a necessity and it still is. And they are delicious and nutritious, and can be excellently paired with plants and drinks.
@@Croz89Yea forage cover crops with livestock can actually improve soils in degraded land reversing deserts. Every thing in nature has a purpose but people try demonize livestock ,When we caused more harm through industrial waste. But they wont focus on that part because of all the oil companies
Right alongside the idea that they would be less safe to eat this is what occurred to me first. When you hunt a deer, rabbit or whatnot, you are the predator, and they are the prey trying to get away from you. With a carnivore, you are both hunters, and it becomes a much more dangerous game.
The real reason is that once we started farming our food, we went for the meat that was easy to raise. That cow is huge, takes less resources to produce, and won't turn you to food. Lions are big enough to feed a village, however theyre expensive to feed and would gladly have you for supper.
Back in the old days, carnivores were harder to hunt and the reward to risk ratio was not worth it, in the present times, it is very difficult and inefficient to grow carnivores for food, so it is highly practical to eat herbivores
@@tackytaco8133 What? Oh lord... "nothing harder to hunt", sure, a grazing deer or cow ancestor would've been just as trivial to hunt as a sabertooth tiger. /facepalm. Oh BUT WAIT! - Gets better: the fantastic counterargument is that we've hunted (and still do)... carnivorous fish! Argh... I just felt millions of braincells shouting in pain...
Indeed hunting big Carnivores is risky, but there are also many small carnivores that can be hunted without risk (foxes, raccoons, or small cat species). Also many herbivores were/are dangerous to hunt, big ungulates like elks, mammoths or buffalos.
@@MintsClassic Yes, that'd be true, but what the guy above me said was in response to the other guy above us, but wrong, and... being merciful... pitful, in a way. And let's leave it there. In any case, there's nothing to argue with your point m'friend. Have a good one.
Gator and croc are some of the healthiest meats out there. They are delicious and very nutritious. The reason we can't raise carnivores for meat is because they are far too expensive to feed while raising. They eat other animals which cost money to feed cost more money to feed to the carnivores than just say hay or grain for prey animals. Gator is one of the easier carnivores to raise but feeding them chicken and fish is still fairly expensive.
It's the breeding cycles. Chickens lay an egg a day. Carnivores generally have one or 2 offspring a year. To have a farm of tigers would be a waste of time and capital
It's probably more efficient to eat alligator compared to other carnivores because unlike warm blooded animals that turn only 10 percent of food into mass and the rest into heat and energy the alligator turns about 70 percent into mass and relays on the sun for heat
@@ahassan5 its also a delicacy in Australia i believe. They say it tastes like chicken and the tail has a pretty good texture Edit: Turns out there are crocodiles in Australia, not alligators
I read this morning of a croc that was shot because it was stalking people and eating dogs. The body was donated to the local aboriginal community who held a feast.
But aren't they going extinct because a) due to farming herbivores, they can't find food in the wild and b) we specifically hunt them down for "stealing" our farm animals
We took their place, they no longer have a place in nature. The only places they still cover are either rough areas or the places we artificially created for them.
@@borstenpinsel No, they aren't going extinct due to farming herbivores. Quite the opposite. Humans farming herbivores literally adds to the potential food sources for carnivores. The reasons why many predators are endangered can be broadly divided into two: 1) The change in environment is much more devastating to predators than it is to herbivores. As such, humans sprawling the civilization into wilderness greatly reduces their survival chances. After all, a single herd of herbivores can make do in a relatively small area. There's plenty of fast-growing grass, leaves etc. But a single predator needs to hunt within a very large area in hope to have sustainable food from the slow-growing herbivores. Especially since there are also other predators that will hunt the same prey. 2) Humans are both prideful and arrogant. Humans as a whole over the many years have found hunting to be a core recreation. While some humans hunted because they needed to, many hunted for other reasons. Bragging rights, for fun, for valuable materials (elephant tusks, tiger skin etc.), as a precaution (humans would hunt down predators in the vicinity of their settlement to make it safer, for example). Seeing as predators generally aren't the sort that has food basically everywhere so many can starve, and even if not, they are more likely to not have the strength to fight other predators (predators are ALSO prey!), the difficulty of a predatory species surviving is just much higher than herbivores. If you add the impact of humans it's just natural that many of them, especially the larger ones, are in dire straits. That being said, this entire video works on false assumption that humans for some reason don't eat carnivores. Humans do eat carnivores. It's just that, humans don't go out of their way to get carnivores meat since there's no advantage to it (and there are disadvantages, like the texture mentioned). If there was a carnivore whose meat was so delicious that it would be worth more than the cost of raising it, you can be 100% sure that humans would raise and eat it on a regular basis. But there's no, so humans mostly eat carnivores as opportunity strikes, or the likes of cats and dogs in certain cultures.
I like how she just completely avoided the fact that from an evolutionary necessity, predators breed at a slower rate than prey. Causing all kinds of issues for farming.
@@WisteriAvisLol I never understand that as you might as well eat rabbits, at that point there more efficient but I guess poor starving people eat stray dogs and cats.
Definitely the inefficiencies/cost for farming. Snakes, Alligator/Crocodile, Shark, Whale, Bear, Seals, are all eaten around the world, but often require hunting/catching in the wild.
Snake and Gator/Croc are an exception due to their methods of digestion/cold blooded factor. A snake only requires you give it a mouse once a week (I'm generalizing a theory, some snake owner can clarrify) while the gator/croc has an entire season where their metabolism basically shuts off. It is therefore cost efficienct to raise these for meat even though you'll be feeding them meat.
@@MarianLuca-rz5kk compared to herbivores, no, this will be an investment on time. But they do have multplie offspring so you'll be working with batches
@@MarianLuca-rz5kk luckily that has easy solutions. Rodents for the snake and pigs for the suchos. Both eat basically anything and are so good at breeding they're practically a pest-not to mention they grow fast. Freeze them when you don't need them and then thaw them when you do.
The "nasties" idea also applies to fish. Some species of fish are considered less "clean" because of their levels of heavy metals, PCB and other nasties.
I think the biggst point is really the efficiency. Also, back in the day and for some of us still today, having especially chickens to feed of your scraps and pests is just a big win. Feasting on the eggs and one of the chickens every now and then only goes on top.
Some countries and "most" asian countries eat almost every animal in their country except those that are too small for example in the Philippines in other places we eat crocodiles like in Palawan I think 🤔.
@@that_betrayalmanguyBro, what do you mean by “some muslim countries”? Eating carnivorous animals in Islam is haram. Stop sending misinformation on the internet
Not always true because chinese protein tend to surround pigs, chickens and smaller animals because bigger animals such as water buffalos and horses were used for heavier farm labors.
More prey species than predators in the wild. Eating predators would simply drive many species into extinction. Many Apex predators are on conservation list.
I think a big note is hunted meat vs farmed meat. Farmed meat we don't do predators on because of the conversion ratio among other things. As for hunted meat, a lot of people are not hunters. Also in theory it may have to do with availiability. Like if you have to eat multiple animals to keep yourself alive that in theory implies that there must be more of those things. If there was more predators then prey then the predators would end up starving themselves. So if you treat hunting as a random draw you are more likely to get something lower on the peaking order then something higher on the peaking order. You could target those rarer creatures but that would in effect just be drawing more cards/spending more effort.
In Zimbabwe we eat crocodile tail which is a by product from crocodile farms that produce leather for the fashion industry but like the video said it's not that readily available and is very seasonal but tastes great
@@alexgrissom3513 how is it a fallacy? you cant just claim that. You have to explain WHY it's immoral. Say, because eating meat is bad for the environment, and choosing to eat it over more sustainable options is morally wrong because of the negative impact on the environment. Otherwise they're not wrong - there is nothing morally wrong about the concept of eating other animals. It's a fact of survival
Salmons are omnivores like swine, chickens, ducks, and ostriches. Most of the aquatic animals ypu named are regularly consumed and accepted, with the exception of shark, catfish, and cetaceans. All of them are considered haram and unclean, shark needs to be prepared a certain way to taste good, and many people look at eating cetaceans as taboo.
3:54 We basically just can't eat most things that cows, pigs, sheep, ect. can eat. We can't eat grass, we can't eat the stock of a bean, corn or tomato, we can't eat the leafs of carrots, turnips or potatoes. Instead of spending even more time and energy to make them edible as well, it's just easier to give them to the animals, who can also safely feed off of moldy bread.
@@evilduck1000 have you thought about the fact that some soils are just unfit to grow crops for us to eat, and that a pound of beef is much more nutritious than a pound of wheat or rice?
That makes sense. In the modern world, it would actually be rather nice if farm animals were fed more or less only parts of edible plants that we don't eat (and/or other [for them] edible waste [edit:] or other things that can be grown in soils unsuitable for edible crops, like grass). It's just too bad this isn't really the case on the large scale
My first thought was that when you decide what animal to go and eat, you're better off choosing one that's unlikely to pull an Uno reverse card on you.
Something to note. Fish such as salmon are indeed carnivores. However, they are not at the top of the ocean food web. That title belongs to sharkes, dolphins, and whales, which we generally tend to avoid. I think this is important to know because the "nasty stuff" that they have are considerably higher levels of mercury.
@@alvinvaldes5034 Only orcas are on top of the food web in the ocean, but 15-foot tuna and swordfish are pretty high up there. And they have the mercury load to prove it. We eat them.
@eljanrimsa5843 With Swordfish, it is generally not recommended to eat them. Tuna, however, there are many safe species to consume. Sharkes are a level higher above them.
In Indonesia we eat snakes, crocodiles, monkeys, cats, dogs, bats, monitor lizards. You wouldn't even believe how much Jakarta people consume dog meat per year
I just found out about this channel and I noticed that the sponsor was at the end of the video You've earned my respect for not ruining the flow of the video by putting the sponsor in the middle
People probably put it in the middle because people are less likely to watch it if it's at the end. You've already seen the entire video. It would be like sticking around for the credits. Most people aren't going to do that.
I would add more reasons to this: - Carnivorous tend to be more intelligent, and if we do rise them, we might get attached to them for this reason, think of cats and dogs. They may also evolve faster then herbivores, due to their initial bigger brains, to avoid dangerous humans. - Because meat is harder to find then vegetables even for carnivores, they evolved to make less babies and invest more time into raising them, thus herbivores seem to be easier to breed and grow fast, think of chickens and rabbits, and how fast a pig can grow. - The animals we raise can use or help houses on top of providing meat. Chickens are good anti-pest animals that can help having a healthy garden, they also provide nutritious eggs basically everyday, that are good to eat for weeks (raw meat will rot in hours in a hot humid environment, and we didn't had refrigerators for millions of years), cows eat grass that we can't digest, turn it into milk (which again can be transformed into long-lasting solid food), and can help move stuff, pigs can grow out of our waste-food. - Herbivores are easier to control, usually they can't jump fences, and they are less likely to hurt you. - We have a history as humans to avoid dangerous animals like lions and tigers, for possibly millions of years, maybe we avoided them so much there might be a genetic component that makes us want to avoid these kind of animals (i.e. fear/fobia). - We prefer to eat food we usually eat, for all the reasons above, at the very least herbivorous meat is easier to get, so when we do get a chance to eat carnivorous meat, we avoid it, because it's unknown and thus possibly dangerous.
Alligators are delicious and there are even alligator farms, like fish farms, meant to supply meat to various places all along the Gulf Coast. We totally eat carnivores lol
0:18 My guess is inefficiency. Plants harness the power of the sun and take their share. Herbivores and omnivores eat the plants and take their share. Carnivores eat herbivores and take their share. So to eat a carnivore would be less efficient than to eat a herbivore.
There are farrrrr fewer carnivore than herbivore mammals in the wild. (I'm talking numbers, not species - although there's probably also more species, lol) So our caveman ancestors that went hunting, were farrrrr more likely to run into some herbivores than carnivores. At the end of the day, it's _also_ a numbers game
The thing you said about bears in specific seasons also applies to deer and waterfowl. I've heard of people eating bears, wolves, and everything else depending on what's available in that part of the world. Predators are predators so you know a little more dangerous to hunt this is likely the reason we shy away from predators from the beginning. Early man was on the food chain just like everything else.
I think there's also an evolutionary reason, hunting a carnivore is much more difficult and dangerous then hunting a herbivore, so we probably adapted to prefer herbivore meat over carnivore meat. I assume that's why most carnivores mostly feast on herbivores.
And that's relatively new thing too. Chickens primarily only eat grain and so raising them was a bit more prestigious to have as a meal. Now you can get a box of chicken nuggets from McDonald's for like five bucks
top-chain predators really do condense things like parasites, heavy metals, and other bad stuff, which you covered here. thats probably one of the reasons we avoid them.
We avoid mammalian predators but we don't seem to have the same concern for eating predatory fish, which have the exact same problem of bioaccumulation. I think the main reason we eat tuna but not tigers simply comes down to tuna being far more numerous and easier to catch.
@@isaacbruner65Do those fish really have the same accumulation problem as carnivorous land animals? I assume not, since a quick look at your average consumable tuna and history of eating them just fine seems to indicate otherwise
@@aereonexapprentice7205 Also, even if they accumulated parasites( Let's ignore the heavy metals for now, as they are indeed an issue when fish and seafod is concerned), most of them might not be compatible with mammals because they evolved to infect fish. Meanwhile, tigers are a lot close to us genetically, so a tiger parasite of disease might infect us. I imagine that's why monkeys and rats are quite dangerous to eat, even if we created them in a lab.
I feel that an additional detail is that for most of our history, carnivores weren't remotely practical to hunt. Putting aside the sheer danger, they produce far less meat than an equally-dangerous herbivore-ex. a mammoth. Furthermore, predators are much more likely to be able to sneak up on your compared to a herbivore, and conversely would find it easier to hide from us as well. It's not like dangerous creature weren't hunted, but they were not hunted FOR FOOD- for glory or profit usually. If you just need to eat and don't care about such things it's so much safer to jus stalk a gazelle, and even big prey would lack interest unless you have a tribe to feed.
I like how alligators were shown several times as an example of a predator we don’t eat or farm. But throughout the south they are eaten and farmed. And hunted. It’s super tasty meat.
Bear are omnivores (except polar bears and they aren't generally eaten) the rest are cold blooded and therefore have a much higher efficiency of turning food into meat around 3-4 times better than mammals.
The human stomach isn't very fond of cellulose, which is the main component of standard grass. Humans only have one stomach, unfortunately, in order to digest grass properly one would need a couple of stomachs. But, who knows, maybe one day :p
I'm sorry but I've eaten a few carnivores. Gator shark, Tuna, mackerel, and other carnivorous fish. Snake is also eaten. So the correct wording is humans usually avoid eating carnivores.
The reason why fish are the exception it is because they are the animal oddball, normally an animal have to have high saturated fat, a fish as high non-saturated fat that is not transfat, and low staturated fat, while a normal animal even thought they only eat plant they have high staturated fat, even thought they only eat non-staturated fat. The oddball of the plant is the Coconut, and any other nut, since they have the opposite of the plant, they have high staturated fat as a plant. When I eat chicken that got high staturated fat I can Digest this no problem, Fish with high unstaturated fat I can digest that no problem. Plant with high staturated fat I have problem digesting that. Plant with high unstaturated fat no problem digesting
>Why won't we eat carnivores? >Koreans who raise and eat dogs 😅 >Russians who hunt and eat bears 😊 >African tribes who hunt and eat leopards to consume their strength 😂 >Chinese who eat everything twitching in the vicinity of the chopstic attack 😮
But be honest: cats and dogs don't taste good. The dogs in vietnamese and korean cuisine may be a delicacy there, but are very much an acquired taste for anyone who ever had a decent steak. I had cat once and will never repeat that experience. The Chinese approach - due to lack of sufficient meat sources - works better and after all, rats, mice and other small critters are usually omnivorous and not that bad - with a lot of soy sauce. All I can say is in Les Stroud voice: Mhhhhh, groundsquirrel....
its also about numbers, alfa predators are usually not that many, a google search said that their is around 20-25k lions in the continent of africa. In sweden where I live there is 300k mooses and 500k deers but only 2500 bears.
@@don_hatoi don't know about the ones they mentioned but i tasted crocodile i think?or is it alligator whatever it is.It taste like fish but has hardness as chicken or the other way round i forgot. My family got it as a souvenir and I'd say they taste alright so the we So it's definitely not because of taste. Maybe combination - efficiency - stigma - safety
Farmer/homesteader, here.🙋🏻♀It doesn’t take an expert to understand why we don’t farm bears, coyotes, mountain lions, etc. Besides the danger factor, you’d be spending more money feeding them than their meat is worth. Cows, sheep and goat all graze on grass that a farmer already has in abundance on their property. Chickens and pigs, in my opinion are even easier to raise because they will eat anything and everything. With that said, there are a lot of people in other countries that might eat carnivores regularly. Shark for example is a meat eaten quite often. As far as hunting goes, it’s just easier to hunt an animal that isn’t also hunting you.😂
Yeah, I was thinking "Tell me you don't know about chickens, without telling me you don't know about chickens." 😂 Chickens love meat. Hotdogs are my chicken's favorite treats.
A major factor with the whole "it's more efficient to get the calories from plants" things seems to be that mostly humans got their calories from meat because of there being lots of inedible plants in an area so the animals were about to convert those inaccessible calories into edible calories. Otherwise it seems that most humans get their calories from plants much more often in regions where growing edible plants was most favorable...
Yup many herbivours can eat plants and parts of plants that we couldnt digest very well. We'd never survive eating grass. There probably aren't enough hours in a day to get enough calories to survive that way.
@@appa609 there are thousands of captive bears on horrific bile farms in China and Southeast Asia. When they die, their paws are in demand to make traditional cuisine.
With the exception of non-native crocodiles, dogs and cats. All the other animals mentioned have received significant protection status. Eating these class protected animals may attract the attention of Chinese police, more likely when you flex about it on social media.
"Inefficiency" sums it nicely. Large carnivores are harder to catch then herbivores of similar or bigger size, and is much easier to raise grazing flock then anything else in low resorce society. In fact in old time people were eating fast growing sheep much more then slower growing cattle, which were kept primarily for milk and as draft animals.
It's very simple... It's cheaper to mass produce herbivores, because you can feed them plants we don't eat. While carnivores eat animals we also want to eat, so to mass produce carnivores you need to mass produce herbivores a lot more, in order to feed the worlds population.
Its the most easy explanation that hunting a herbivore is easier than a carnivore for the risk of getting hunted down and the difference in numbers too. Thousands of herbivores vs few carnivores vs even lesser humans. Also Ockham's razor is a factor.
It's also usually a lot easier to hunt the herbivores. They're either fairly harmless like rabbits, or herd together making bigger targets for spears and bows, like bison, cows, or sheep. On the other hand, a lot harder to hunt something that's probably already hunting you. Something with dangerous claws and teeth as well as incredible speed and stealth.
Native Americans if I remember correctly actually raised meat dogs so humans did have a carnivore meat source. But when Europeans came with their dogs, the Native American dogs went extinct so who knows if they had a more omnivorous diet rather then a meat based one.
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I have a question for the team, did you use a text to speech gpt to do the ad read at the end ? It sounds different from the rest of the video?
@@GamerDuDimanche1456 hi! editor here. no AI was used - all Kate as always, just a different take edited differently than the main portion. Apologies for the uncanniness in the transition :)
Watch ordinary sausage too if you wanna see more
I've read that early American settlers would eat anything they could hunt. (The flavor varied greatly.) It's likely that most people living in wilderness areas throughout history did the same. But once most of the carnivores have been hunted, all that's left are the herbivores. (And with no predators, their population increases.) It's much easier to domesticate herbivores.
Now why not just eat the plants instead? The reason is that most livestock eat plants that humans can't eat.
3:53 - I would like to see a video on us eating the plants directly. That would be wonderful.
CGP Grey summarized it best: "Ten pounds of grass make a pound of cow, and ten pounds of cow make a pound of tiger. But cow and tiger have the same amount of calories, so you might as well just eat the cow."
Might as well eat dirt 🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🥶🥶🤢🤢
But Kate also made a good point--if humans just ate the grass (really grain/corn), it'd be even more efficient!
@@NickWrightDataYT good thing we are now cows
Hence why veganism would cost less if it weren't for the subsidies provided to the meat industry
And having 1/10 as much farmland would mean 1/10 as much chemical runoff, also fixing the problem of the Dead zone in the Gulf of Mexico.
@@NickWrightDataYTthe logic of veganism ...
We already use soy to grow cattles so why not eat soy ?
I could think of many things:
- their diet is too expensive
- you cannot herd them
- they might attack you
- they are probably territorial, no chance of having lots of them in a small area
@@duran9664 they literally just said that they're not easy to hunt or control so how is it wrong
@@AiNaKait's a bot dawg
@@harthroth it does seem to be a bot, but it's a bit weird how its comment is tailored to the video
@harthroth Maybe not, it's related to the vid... probably just a person?
@@jk-2053probably reads the comment and then replies
For most of human history, eating a carnivore would've just been HARD. Why fight a bear for it's meat when you could hunt a deer, where you'd be less likely to get injured and die? Then as a course, we'd never develop the taste/immune system/etc. for eating predators.
Also - there might be 20 or more deer for each wolf in the neighbourhood, so it's much easier to hunt the deer.
Actually hunting is the only reliable way to eat carmnivores and we have proof than ancient humans regurarly ate carnivores
Most bears are omnivores but the point is still valid.
I think the first part of what of what you said is correct. I don't know about the taste/ immune system part. It makes sense that herd animals would be the choice to hunt over more solitary animals, which is also why we eat fish that are predators, as they tend to swim in schools. It's about calories per effort. The Native Americans knew it was much more cost effective to herd a group of buffalo over a cliff than to hunt down solitary predators.
isotope analysis suggests that we ate other carnivores too
Carnivores dont primarily eat carnivores either, with the exception of fish
Yep. She forgot to mention the fact that 0 of the carnivores she mentioned actively hunt and eat other carnivores
In fact - humans are unique in this situation that they CAN and WOULD actually taste carnivores, since we ascended beyond the food chain to such a degree.
The only other animals who eat carnivores are scavengers, not predators.
Still it’s surprising I mean you can’t just walk into a store these days and ask for a bear, fox or dog. Heck it’s look down apon to eat things such as dogs. Still it is surprising that carnivores are still so rare to find to eat
@@DAnGerousFirerrrHazard224most people think of dogs as a friend of humanity, would you eat your friends
How about with snakes? Many of them eat carnivores even their kind.
Conversely for seafood, we humans predominantly eat carnivorous fish, while we rarely eat herbivorous fish. Herbivore fish taste like the plants they eat. Which isn't good.
I think the reason why is because there aren’t that many of them and they aren’t very large either. Whereas Tuna, Salmon, etc can get pretty large, taste good and because we don’t farm them, we don’t have to pump resources into them
Oceanic food webs just operate on another level
It's not about taste. There just aren't very many, they're not particularly big, and they have a significant risk of being toxic. People eat them anyway, but it's not common because it's not efficient.
What about sardines and shrimp.
@@freerolll I think the specific species (plural) of shrimp are carnivorous, but you are right about sardines being omnivores.
i find it really funny you use an aligator in a farm as an example of "we don't farm carnivores" when infact we litterally have aligator farms for their meat in Louisiana
thats mostly for their skin right?
@@TrainerGoldAlt I've eaten gator on multiple occasions, in restaurants and otherwise. It's definitely a bit of an outlier here.
I noticed that but I don't think you can argue that it's common or makes up a significant portion of human eaten meat.
@@TrainerGoldAlt but the meat rather than ended in dump, better consumed by anyone who wants to taste it
@@TrainerGoldAlt for the skin and the meat, the meat is like a really good cross between fish and chicken
I'll add another possible reason: humans used to be hunter-gatherers, and hunting a carnivore probably was way too dangerous to be worth the effort
Yea. I assume if they killed it in defense, they might eat it but hunting to eat it? Dangerous
I wouldn't be so sure on that hypothesis as a discovery was made in Africa in Kenya or Tanzania that homo erectus regularly hunted carnivorous in that area for food
Yeah, that's the first thing I thought of when I saw the thumbnail, but I'm appalled that an evolutionary perspective wasn't considered in the video.
Yes, I thought of this, too. Especially since it also explains why we would have an exception for carnivorous fish: fish generally aren't as dangerous as carnivorous land animals.
This was my idea
I think you kinda missed what's imo the big one: we don't just eat herbivores, we specifically eat ruminants and fowl (and pork, which is also the most common meat, but I'll get back to that), which are animals that eat grass and seeds. Specifically, those are things that human derive little to no nutrition from, but are incredibly abundant. For most of human history (really, all of it prior to the Second Agricultural Revolution), we didn't grow food to feed animals, we just let them graze on otherwise unused grassland or hay, which is effectively a byproduct of the grains we actually eat. As such, they were basically a way of converting inedible plant matter into stuff we can actually eat.
Pigs are the big exception to that, in that they don't eat grasses primarily. However, they do eat anything. All of the waste and scraps that get produced by people can be fed to pigs, and they'll also happily find food in an otherwise barren field.
Basically, the reason we eat those animals primarily is just because those animals were effectively no-effort food sources at a time when food production was the vast majority of human labour.
This comment wins the question.
This should get pinned well said. It makes sense that we'd find the most efficient way to satisfy our need for food and what could be easier than eating animals that eat the stuff we don't eat or need makes perfect sense... imagine trying to catch antelope to feed to your leopard so you can eat it 😂😂
The pig is a tricky one though, if you only feed it trash, the meat will taste like trash, unless you fed it good quality food the last few months of it life, making its meat mid quality, but if you fed it with high quality food all its life, you end up with good quality meat (let's ignore for a moment the different breeds and how the environment can influence on the quality)
Yes, and this points out a very good reason why the religion hypothesis doesn't really hold up: both Judaism and Islam prohibit pork, and yet it is the most consumed meats on the planet. If that were a cultural factor, it would mean western cultures would not eat so much of it.
Since the 2nd Agricultural Revolution, we waste a huge amount of resources like land and fresh water to produce animal products.
Animal agriculture is the top cause of deforestation, and biodiversity loss.
It is also a major cause of climate change, water pollution, ocean dead zones, and the threat of zoonotic diseases, and antibiotic resistance.
It is long past the time to change to a plant based food production system!
You missed the basic point, carnivores usually reproduce at lower numbers and lower frequency than herbivores.
It is easier to extinct tigers than sheep.
That's not true, cows born one by one, tigers have a litter of 3 or more cubs per season, the problem is that adult tigers do not coexist peacefully.
I think we also have an unspoken alliance with carnivores--or better put---hunters. We respect them. As long as they don't bother us we don't bother them (mostly). That and they're a lot more clever than herbivores.
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I don’t think that’s really a point since companies would just overproduce to compensate for the lower frequency. It’s most likely a bunch of those reasons to make the whole picture.
Yeah, it's already obvious. Why would early humans go for a single dangerous tiger that will literally turn you into its prey, rather than a herd of sheep that's easier to catch. And pretty sure the big boys won't easily get swayed like the early dogs.
I'm no expert but hunting or herding tigers seems a lot harder then hunting or herding rabbits.
Herding rabbits? Good luck with that.
@@slizzardshroomer9666 Breeding rabbits is a lot easier lol
@@slizzardshroomer9666Look it up. It's actually a thing & VERY EASILY done when compared to other bigger herbivores
You should try herding fruits, vegetables and legumes... I promise you won't make it out alive.
you wont last more than an hour if you try to herd a group of tigers. probably less
This video is a textbook example of why learning to 'ask the right question' is so damn important.
A point about the inefficiency of cows, though, which I think is important to point out
Historically, raising cattle (not just cows but sheep and goats too) was done in areas where it was hard to grow crops, but where grass grew readily. Humans can't eat grass, so it was an easy way to turn inedible calories into edible ones. It didn't matter that it took 10000 calories of grass to make 1000 calories of cow because those 10000 calories of grass were useless to us. It wasn't that different from the fish example.
Then we started growing crops to feed the cattle tho, which kind of defeats the purpose of having the cattle in the first place. But originally at least, it made perfect sense.
another point is that our digestion systems are significantly less adapted for grass than a cow is, so regardless of how many calories exist in grass we can't directly benefit from it without farming animals who do have digestion systems capable of digesting said grass.
Even now, it *sort* of does. Some percentage of a harvest of say, wheat is usually pretty poor quality, you might eat it if you were starving and it would be pretty horrible (it would probably be grits or porridge because the protein content is too low for bread or pasta), but in an otherwise abundant food environment, it's going to go to waste. There are also fodder crops like alfalfa that grow more readily in poor soil but are also not very nutritious for humans. Finally there's waste products from the food industry like sugar beet pulp or molasses.
Not to say high quality human edible grains are not fed to cattle sometimes, especially in the US where it is extremely cheap to produce, but there's still a lot of sources of animal feed which could not be easily diverted for human use.
Just like you said.
Additionally, for millions of years of human history and teens of thousands of years of history, animals and land was plentiful until very very recently.
Herbivores were pests in agricultural areas, especially after dangerous carnivore threats/competitors were eliminated. So hunting deer, elk, antelope, horse, rabbit, etc. became a necessity and it still is. And they are delicious and nutritious, and can be excellently paired with plants and drinks.
another point is food waste and bad crops and forage. Stuff we gathered that we can’t eat so we feed it to what we can eat
@@Croz89Yea forage cover crops with livestock can actually improve soils in degraded land reversing deserts. Every thing in nature has a purpose but people try demonize livestock ,When we caused more harm through industrial waste. But they wont focus on that part because of all the oil companies
You are not even considering that hunting a deer is significantly easier than hunting a cougar
idk man, there's like 4 in my dms promising a weekly allowance of $1000, as long as I send my bank details first
Right alongside the idea that they would be less safe to eat this is what occurred to me first. When you hunt a deer, rabbit or whatnot, you are the predator, and they are the prey trying to get away from you. With a carnivore, you are both hunters, and it becomes a much more dangerous game.
I'm hunting cougars at the moment in Red Dead Redemption 2 and can confirm.
Especially when the cougar also considers hunting you just as much !
@@avu2888 LMAO😭😭😭😭
The real reason is that once we started farming our food, we went for the meat that was easy to raise. That cow is huge, takes less resources to produce, and won't turn you to food.
Lions are big enough to feed a village, however theyre expensive to feed and would gladly have you for supper.
breakfast!
Isn’t that pig 2:13 from Gravity Falls?
I'm sure Gruncle Stan let promised to watch him 🤣
waddles supremacy 🐽
This is more “why we don’t farm carnivores” more so than “why we don’t eat carnivores”. We eat plenty of carnivores but farm very little of them.
Very good
True. We eat crocodile meat.
@@tinachristine4573yeah while watching this video I was thinking, I've had crocodile, everyone with me liked it and the meat was very soft
They are farmed ,but for their fur not their meat
Tuna too! @tinachristine4573
my theory is back in the days we had animals at farms. Its easier to find grass for a cow than there is to find 800 rabbits for a wolf...
Back in the day we had animals at farms?
Back in the old days, carnivores were harder to hunt and the reward to risk ratio was not worth it, in the present times, it is very difficult and inefficient to grow carnivores for food, so it is highly practical to eat herbivores
There was nothing harder to hunt for humans, like carnivorous fish example was given.
@@tackytaco8133 What? Oh lord... "nothing harder to hunt", sure, a grazing deer or cow ancestor would've been just as trivial to hunt as a sabertooth tiger. /facepalm. Oh BUT WAIT! - Gets better: the fantastic counterargument is that we've hunted (and still do)... carnivorous fish! Argh... I just felt millions of braincells shouting in pain...
No its because allah made it haram for us to eat them
Indeed hunting big Carnivores is risky, but there are also many small carnivores that can be hunted without risk (foxes, raccoons, or small cat species).
Also many herbivores were/are dangerous to hunt, big ungulates like elks, mammoths or buffalos.
@@MintsClassic Yes, that'd be true, but what the guy above me said was in response to the other guy above us, but wrong, and... being merciful... pitful, in a way. And let's leave it there. In any case, there's nothing to argue with your point m'friend. Have a good one.
Gator and croc are some of the healthiest meats out there. They are delicious and very nutritious. The reason we can't raise carnivores for meat is because they are far too expensive to feed while raising. They eat other animals which cost money to feed cost more money to feed to the carnivores than just say hay or grain for prey animals. Gator is one of the easier carnivores to raise but feeding them chicken and fish is still fairly expensive.
It's the breeding cycles. Chickens lay an egg a day. Carnivores generally have one or 2 offspring a year. To have a farm of tigers would be a waste of time and capital
"We don't eat carnivores" *looks at my bowl of alligator gumbo*
It's probably more efficient to eat alligator compared to other carnivores because unlike warm blooded animals that turn only 10 percent of food into mass and the rest into heat and energy the alligator turns about 70 percent into mass and relays on the sun for heat
We are not in China
@@ahassan5 its also a delicacy in Australia i believe. They say it tastes like chicken and the tail has a pretty good texture
Edit: Turns out there are crocodiles in Australia, not alligators
Was just finna say that. Like- I'm definitely eating fried gator
Fried gator = Mmm
As CGPGray once said, “Thermodynamics”
Soooo long ago
"We are the top Chicken" -CGP
Ten pounds of grass make a pound of steak, and ten pounds of steak make a pound of tiger
Gd reference
@@hdrodic And we can't eat grass.
I've heard this quote from a hunting channel once.
"No meat you cook will taste bad as long as you cook it correct way and put in enough seasoning."
yeah any funky meat can be turned delicious by plenty of garlic, pepper, ginger, salt and onions.
It’s true. Just make sure you check for rabies after..
@@orangejacket4551 And lots of parasite species resistant to heat... So I say, no thanks! 🤣
That just further solidifies the point why carnivores never became popular - to make their meat tender you need to put in a lot of time and energy.
In short, waste. Not just time or ingredients but energy as well. Why make yourself suffer when you can achieve the same thing with lesser effort?
In the deep south, you won't see it often, but alligator is something close by if you're looking for it. The taste is a hybrid of beef and chicken
I read this morning of a croc that was shot because it was stalking people and eating dogs. The body was donated to the local aboriginal community who held a feast.
R croc attacks so regular that animal control have the aboriginal community number on speed dial 💀
@@liliecoffey8846 If they're in Florida, yep.
@@ToastyTheToastedOne Florida has gators. OP almost 100% lives in Australia.
Croc is pretty tasty, similar to chicken.
@@paragon4770 ye and aboriginal is usually a very Australian native term although it's definition isn't specific to Australia I think
I think one important thing was forgotten… which is how most carnivores are at risk of going extinct and they’re hard to hunt down
But aren't they going extinct because a) due to farming herbivores, they can't find food in the wild and b) we specifically hunt them down for "stealing" our farm animals
We took their place, they no longer have a place in nature. The only places they still cover are either rough areas or the places we artificially created for them.
@Kkubey Dunno, wolves are definitely constantly intruding in my city outskirts no, problem.
@@Kkubey
It’s a sad day when we think the natural places we haven’t touched are the ‘artificial’ ones.
@@borstenpinsel No, they aren't going extinct due to farming herbivores. Quite the opposite. Humans farming herbivores literally adds to the potential food sources for carnivores.
The reasons why many predators are endangered can be broadly divided into two:
1) The change in environment is much more devastating to predators than it is to herbivores. As such, humans sprawling the civilization into wilderness greatly reduces their survival chances. After all, a single herd of herbivores can make do in a relatively small area. There's plenty of fast-growing grass, leaves etc. But a single predator needs to hunt within a very large area in hope to have sustainable food from the slow-growing herbivores. Especially since there are also other predators that will hunt the same prey.
2) Humans are both prideful and arrogant. Humans as a whole over the many years have found hunting to be a core recreation. While some humans hunted because they needed to, many hunted for other reasons. Bragging rights, for fun, for valuable materials (elephant tusks, tiger skin etc.), as a precaution (humans would hunt down predators in the vicinity of their settlement to make it safer, for example).
Seeing as predators generally aren't the sort that has food basically everywhere so many can starve, and even if not, they are more likely to not have the strength to fight other predators (predators are ALSO prey!), the difficulty of a predatory species surviving is just much higher than herbivores. If you add the impact of humans it's just natural that many of them, especially the larger ones, are in dire straits.
That being said, this entire video works on false assumption that humans for some reason don't eat carnivores. Humans do eat carnivores. It's just that, humans don't go out of their way to get carnivores meat since there's no advantage to it (and there are disadvantages, like the texture mentioned). If there was a carnivore whose meat was so delicious that it would be worth more than the cost of raising it, you can be 100% sure that humans would raise and eat it on a regular basis. But there's no, so humans mostly eat carnivores as opportunity strikes, or the likes of cats and dogs in certain cultures.
Thank you for convincing me to not take up cannibalism.
XD
😂 i read somewhere that human meat not only smell bad and the texture a little strange however its close to pig at least that is good
@@aimliard2276speak for yourself. I hate pork
@@aimliard2276
That's why another term for cannibalism is "long pig."
Did you not watch the video? Typical humans would taste bad but grass-fed humans should be delicious.
I like how she just completely avoided the fact that from an evolutionary necessity, predators breed at a slower rate than prey. Causing all kinds of issues for farming.
Hearing her say nasties is just so weird. Btw for reference the process she mention is called bio accumulation.
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Indeed
@@VeganSemihCyprus33 Ok, I do.
@@VeganSemihCyprus33I'm vegetarian but I don't cry like a bitch when someone eat meat. Grow up.
Take your vit B12 supplements your brain is weakening
I liked it
One straightforward reason related to efficiency is that there are significantly more herbivores in nature than carnivores.
I'm also 90% sure prey animals give birth more often and have larger litters of offspring. They likely even grow faster than carnivores
That's why we were hunter gatherers for most of our history.
Your reason explains more than the other proposed reasons.
And they're easier to hunt/catch, never mind farm!
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Other carnivores we eat include crustaceans, reptiles, terrapins, cetaceans, pinipeds, and amphibians.
Also cephalopods, and dogs and cats in some places
@@WisteriAvisLol I never understand that as you might as well eat rabbits, at that point there more efficient but I guess poor starving people eat stray dogs and cats.
Fish
❌ WRONG❌WRONG❌WRONG❌
People eat what easy to hunt & control🤷♀️ We would have eat each other if it easy to hunt humans, control them & eat them🤏
@@duran9664 No we wouldnt do that Its psychopathic
Australia markets croc meat. Both grain fed and meat fed. Croc meat changes colour, texture and flavour depending on what it was fed
Definitely the inefficiencies/cost for farming. Snakes, Alligator/Crocodile, Shark, Whale, Bear, Seals, are all eaten around the world, but often require hunting/catching in the wild.
Thank you, finally someone mentioning HUNTING in this topic...
Snake meat is amazing. Some of the best $50 or so a pound I've ever bought on the extremely rare occasion it is available.,
Snake and Gator/Croc are an exception due to their methods of digestion/cold blooded factor. A snake only requires you give it a mouse once a week (I'm generalizing a theory, some snake owner can clarrify) while the gator/croc has an entire season where their metabolism basically shuts off. It is therefore cost efficienct to raise these for meat even though you'll be feeding them meat.
@@MarianLuca-rz5kk compared to herbivores, no, this will be an investment on time. But they do have multplie offspring so you'll be working with batches
@@MarianLuca-rz5kk luckily that has easy solutions. Rodents for the snake and pigs for the suchos. Both eat basically anything and are so good at breeding they're practically a pest-not to mention they grow fast. Freeze them when you don't need them and then thaw them when you do.
The "nasties" idea also applies to fish. Some species of fish are considered less "clean" because of their levels of heavy metals, PCB and other nasties.
Ah yes I love me some fish with a motherboard (PCB) in it /s
and some societies dont like fish or even people cant eat fish
like thuna
@@fraizie6815frr, capacitors are just so 🤤
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3:33 That cow has two people going for a kiss on its back!
side*
@@dryzalizer No, it's a chalice!
Well spotted!
What
They painted a cow with a Rorschach painting, very cool
I think the biggst point is really the efficiency.
Also, back in the day and for some of us still today, having especially chickens to feed of your scraps and pests is just a big win.
Feasting on the eggs and one of the chickens every now and then only goes on top.
4:29 That's the wackiest pronunciation of Quran I've ever heard
+1
it is more like Korean than Quran 😂
keuran is craaazzzyyy
It’s the funniest mispronunciation of Quran I have ever heard.
The worst part is that this isnt even the quran , its a quote off of one of the prophet’s companions
"Crayon"
South East Asians: what are you talking about?
We eat anything have 4 legs, unless it’s a chair lol
They're not afraid of danger
you mean chinese
Or anyone who has eaten alligators, snakes, or many types of ocean creatures.
@@GhostRiley-zs8zb they be snacking too
China:- bro theres nothing like omnivorous carnivorous, all animals or insects which moves we can eat.
Some countries and "most" asian countries eat almost every animal in their country except those that are too small for example in the Philippines in other places we eat crocodiles like in Palawan I think 🤔.
@@that_betrayalmanguyBro, what do you mean by “some muslim countries”? Eating carnivorous animals in Islam is haram. Stop sending misinformation on the internet
@@f1kRii sorry bro it's actually Asian sorry 😔
Next time visiting China, try deep fried scorpions, very tasty!
Not always true because chinese protein tend to surround pigs, chickens and smaller animals because bigger animals such as water buffalos and horses were used for heavier farm labors.
More prey species than predators in the wild. Eating predators would simply drive many species into extinction. Many Apex predators are on conservation list.
I think a big note is hunted meat vs farmed meat. Farmed meat we don't do predators on because of the conversion ratio among other things. As for hunted meat, a lot of people are not hunters. Also in theory it may have to do with availiability. Like if you have to eat multiple animals to keep yourself alive that in theory implies that there must be more of those things. If there was more predators then prey then the predators would end up starving themselves. So if you treat hunting as a random draw you are more likely to get something lower on the peaking order then something higher on the peaking order. You could target those rarer creatures but that would in effect just be drawing more cards/spending more effort.
For the ADHD kids scrolling through, here is the tl;dr version: _"The population math doesn't add up"_ 👈 You're welcome 😊
This is probably the biggest answer and also why fish are the "exception".
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In Zimbabwe we eat crocodile tail which is a by product from crocodile farms that produce leather for the fashion industry but like the video said it's not that readily available and is very seasonal but tastes great
Louisiana,Texas, and Florida does this
@@jalenwatson4261 more so alligator not croc
You can get it anywhere in the US.
We do the same in South Africa. It's expensive and more of a novelty item, but it tastes very similar to chicken.
@@marcusmoonstein242 it does. Have you tried it grilled with mixed potato and sweet potato chips. Heavenly.
That one episode from JoJo's Golden Wind where mista discusses cannibalism:
knew there was gonna be a jojo reference here somewhere
Was looking for this comment
When does this happen?
@@josethethinket9819 When Giorno first meets them (it's followed by the 'tea' drinking scene)
1:03 HOLD UP 💀
Yes, they are pokemons 😂
I love how this video just ignored alligator farms in Southern US states. They are farmed to be slaughtered for their meat.
They had pictures of them. They are not common though.
Just as immoral as eating cows and pigs
@@alexgrissom3513believing that is tantamount to believing human existence is immoral,or/and any other carnivores as well.
@@hawoaliahmed6996 nope. You’re arguing what’s called an appeal to nature logical fallacy.
@@alexgrissom3513 how is it a fallacy? you cant just claim that. You have to explain WHY it's immoral. Say, because eating meat is bad for the environment, and choosing to eat it over more sustainable options is morally wrong because of the negative impact on the environment. Otherwise they're not wrong - there is nothing morally wrong about the concept of eating other animals. It's a fact of survival
"We don't eat carnivores"
Fish: am I a joke to you?
she mentions them in the vid
2:43
she mentions that in the vid broski
I want eat a white shark!
@@GabrielMoura-qe3il all the power to you
I enjoy how some of the animals were drawn to look like Pokémon
Deerling, Ursaluna, Magikarp, and maybe Lycanroc
@@DanielDOleo the lycanroc is actually a palamute from monster hunter rise!
Yes, I was like I could not be the only person who noticed this!
Barracuda, Shark, Trout, Eels, Bass, Catfish, Dolphins, Whales, Pike, Tuna, Walleye, Perch, Salmon, Swordfish, Marlin, etc.
Salmons are omnivores like swine, chickens, ducks, and ostriches.
Most of the aquatic animals ypu named are regularly consumed and accepted, with the exception of shark, catfish, and cetaceans. All of them are considered haram and unclean, shark needs to be prepared a certain way to taste good, and many people look at eating cetaceans as taboo.
3:54 We basically just can't eat most things that cows, pigs, sheep, ect. can eat. We can't eat grass, we can't eat the stock of a bean, corn or tomato, we can't eat the leafs of carrots, turnips or potatoes. Instead of spending even more time and energy to make them edible as well, it's just easier to give them to the animals, who can also safely feed off of moldy bread.
Making land to feed animals is one of the biggest causes of deforestation. A lot of that land is used to grow crops to feed to animals.
@@evilduck1000 have you thought about the fact that some soils are just unfit to grow crops for us to eat, and that a pound of beef is much more nutritious than a pound of wheat or rice?
@@evilduck1000Most of that land is used for oil palm, Livestock agriculture is only about 20% of habitable land.
That makes sense. In the modern world, it would actually be rather nice if farm animals were fed more or less only parts of edible plants that we don't eat (and/or other [for them] edible waste [edit:] or other things that can be grown in soils unsuitable for edible crops, like grass). It's just too bad this isn't really the case on the large scale
I literally just saw my local Safeway grocery store selling literal yard grass to eat, by the lettuce lol. 😂
My first thought was that when you decide what animal to go and eat, you're better off choosing one that's unlikely to pull an Uno reverse card on you.
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3:27 the cow pattern is 2 faces looking at each other😂
Ohh gosh I can’t unsee it now 😂
Fr!
How did I not see that
Oh yeah! You're right, it's that famous illusion of two faces / decorative pot.
I'm pretty sure it's vase tho
1:15 took me a solid second to realize these are Pokémon references-
Gator meat is a bit of an exception, maybe it is the transition from aquatic to terrestrial animals.
Some Japan eat bear meat
For farming sure. That's it though. Talk to a real hunter and that changes a lot. People eat all sorts of carnivores
We eat snakes, dogs, cats, and all other kinds of animals
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The Exotic Meat Market after seeing this video: Hold My Lion Meat.
that is why its EXOTIC....sh1t aint normal lol
You mean you've never eaten alligator meat? I highly recommend it. Almost just like chicken.
Frog legs too, but closer to the texture of fish.
I've had alligator jerky. It was good!
Just remember to be responsible while hunting!
alligator or crocodile tastes like turkey but with the texture of beef. very strange, but tasty experience
Alligator is absolutely delicious one of my favorite foods especially that tail😋.
Humans are too busy making the coolest carnivores go extinct anyway
Humans are the coolest carnivore, so you must be talking about abortion.
@@echo.romeo.humans aren’t carnivores what are you on..?
@@step1mixit I bet you didn't know not all of us are omnivores. 😅
@@step1mixit Yes, we're omnivores(which is even worse I think)
Something to note. Fish such as salmon are indeed carnivores. However, they are not at the top of the ocean food web. That title belongs to sharkes, dolphins, and whales, which we generally tend to avoid. I think this is important to know because the "nasty stuff" that they have are considerably higher levels of mercury.
My 7+ kg of ground whale meat in the freezer:
Do you think we don't eat tuna and swordfish?
@eljanrimsa5843 Tuna and Swordfish are not on top of the food web.
@@alvinvaldes5034 Only orcas are on top of the food web in the ocean, but 15-foot tuna and swordfish are pretty high up there. And they have the mercury load to prove it. We eat them.
@eljanrimsa5843 With Swordfish, it is generally not recommended to eat them. Tuna, however, there are many safe species to consume. Sharkes are a level higher above them.
In Indonesia we eat snakes, crocodiles, monkeys, cats, dogs, bats, monitor lizards.
You wouldn't even believe how much Jakarta people consume dog meat per year
There's a saying in Vietnam as a joke. If it move, it's edible =)))
Asians even eat cockroaches as well. Sometimes when I think about it, it's like eating whatever is caught.
These diets are mainly in China and South East Asia.
In the South we eat alligator and rattlesnakes on occasion
And that folks is how we got covid
I just found out about this channel and I noticed that the sponsor was at the end of the video
You've earned my respect for not ruining the flow of the video by putting the sponsor in the middle
People probably put it in the middle because people are less likely to watch it if it's at the end. You've already seen the entire video. It would be like sticking around for the credits. Most people aren't going to do that.
There's dofferent values for where they put the ad role. The middle is the most expensive and the beginning is the least.@@HappilyCarnivore
I would add more reasons to this:
- Carnivorous tend to be more intelligent, and if we do rise them, we might get attached to them for this reason, think of cats and dogs. They may also evolve faster then herbivores, due to their initial bigger brains, to avoid dangerous humans.
- Because meat is harder to find then vegetables even for carnivores, they evolved to make less babies and invest more time into raising them, thus herbivores seem to be easier to breed and grow fast, think of chickens and rabbits, and how fast a pig can grow.
- The animals we raise can use or help houses on top of providing meat. Chickens are good anti-pest animals that can help having a healthy garden, they also provide nutritious eggs basically everyday, that are good to eat for weeks (raw meat will rot in hours in a hot humid environment, and we didn't had refrigerators for millions of years), cows eat grass that we can't digest, turn it into milk (which again can be transformed into long-lasting solid food), and can help move stuff, pigs can grow out of our waste-food.
- Herbivores are easier to control, usually they can't jump fences, and they are less likely to hurt you.
- We have a history as humans to avoid dangerous animals like lions and tigers, for possibly millions of years, maybe we avoided them so much there might be a genetic component that makes us want to avoid these kind of animals (i.e. fear/fobia).
- We prefer to eat food we usually eat, for all the reasons above, at the very least herbivorous meat is easier to get, so when we do get a chance to eat carnivorous meat, we avoid it, because it's unknown and thus possibly dangerous.
Alligators are delicious and there are even alligator farms, like fish farms, meant to supply meat to various places all along the Gulf Coast. We totally eat carnivores lol
But it depends on the species.
I assume those farms let the alligators hunt themselves as they be expensive to feed
What do they feed the alligators
theres a reason this is rare and essentially only occurs in one location
0:18 My guess is inefficiency. Plants harness the power of the sun and take their share. Herbivores and omnivores eat the plants and take their share. Carnivores eat herbivores and take their share. So to eat a carnivore would be less efficient than to eat a herbivore.
Also, the meat of carnivores are harder to cook, from both a literal and technical standpoint.
Lol “harness the power of the sun” some one copy/paste from Wikipedia 😂😂😂
There are farrrrr fewer carnivore than herbivore mammals in the wild.
(I'm talking numbers, not species - although there's probably also more species, lol)
So our caveman ancestors that went hunting, were farrrrr more likely to run into some herbivores than carnivores.
At the end of the day, it's _also_ a numbers game
The thing you said about bears in specific seasons also applies to deer and waterfowl. I've heard of people eating bears, wolves, and everything else depending on what's available in that part of the world. Predators are predators so you know a little more dangerous to hunt this is likely the reason we shy away from predators from the beginning. Early man was on the food chain just like everything else.
On the flip side - predators will sometimes come to you... if the predator doesn't come out on top... why let good meat or fur go to waste?
By population size there's lots of plants, many plant-eaters, and few plant-eater-eaters. Hunting at the bigger buffet means you'll get more food
I think there's also an evolutionary reason, hunting a carnivore is much more difficult and dangerous then hunting a herbivore, so we probably adapted to prefer herbivore meat over carnivore meat. I assume that's why most carnivores mostly feast on herbivores.
Also fishing a carnivorous fish is as easy as fishing a herbivore fish so that can explain why we like carnivorous fish too.
0:48 Pokémon reference
Pink deerling aah reference 😂
It's because it's easier for us to cultivate grains to feed them and graise animals than it is to feed meat eating animals to then eat.
And that's relatively new thing too. Chickens primarily only eat grain and so raising them was a bit more prestigious to have as a meal.
Now you can get a box of chicken nuggets from McDonald's for like five bucks
@@silkyz68Yea but steak taste alot better chickens actually eat the majority of grains grown in us and its subsidized by big corn.
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People eat what easy to hunt & control🤷♀️ We would have eat each other if it easy to hunt humans, control them & eat them🤏
They are more docile
@@silkyz68chickens eat meat too, they eat insects and sometimes other chickens
South East Asians: what are you talking about??
@@joynulabedin338 i think it is just a racist comment implying all south east asians eat carnivores, herbivores as well as plants.
@@joynulabedin338😮 no he means the all eating ones in vietnam e5c
@@keerthan7558 "I think it's a racist comment against Indians" and the guy you're talking about is Indian 💀
@@joynulabedin338I think he’s talking about Thailand, Vietnam, etc. Southeast Asia, not South Asia.
@@Krypto137 first of all don't use double quotes if you are gonna make up your own sentence and ik that India falls under SA not SEA .
top-chain predators really do condense things like parasites, heavy metals, and other bad stuff, which you covered here. thats probably one of the reasons we avoid them.
We avoid mammalian predators but we don't seem to have the same concern for eating predatory fish, which have the exact same problem of bioaccumulation. I think the main reason we eat tuna but not tigers simply comes down to tuna being far more numerous and easier to catch.
@@isaacbruner65Do those fish really have the same accumulation problem as carnivorous land animals? I assume not, since a quick look at your average consumable tuna and history of eating them just fine seems to indicate otherwise
@aereonexapprentice7205 tuna has a relatively high mercury contents than fishes on the lower foodchain such as herrings
@@aereonexapprentice7205 Also, even if they accumulated parasites( Let's ignore the heavy metals for now, as they are indeed an issue when fish and seafod is concerned), most of them might not be compatible with mammals because they evolved to infect fish. Meanwhile, tigers are a lot close to us genetically, so a tiger parasite of disease might infect us. I imagine that's why monkeys and rats are quite dangerous to eat, even if we created them in a lab.
The spots on the cow at 3:25 look like two people talking haha
I feel that an additional detail is that for most of our history, carnivores weren't remotely practical to hunt. Putting aside the sheer danger, they produce far less meat than an equally-dangerous herbivore-ex. a mammoth. Furthermore, predators are much more likely to be able to sneak up on your compared to a herbivore, and conversely would find it easier to hide from us as well. It's not like dangerous creature weren't hunted, but they were not hunted FOR FOOD- for glory or profit usually. If you just need to eat and don't care about such things it's so much safer to jus stalk a gazelle, and even big prey would lack interest unless you have a tribe to feed.
I like how alligators were shown several times as an example of a predator we don’t eat or farm.
But throughout the south they are eaten and farmed. And hunted. It’s super tasty meat.
No thanks
@@AndrewManooki would like to taste them
Dont call something tasteless like croc tasty. It all comes from seasoning and sidedish, the meat itself is boring af.
People do eat bear, crocs, frogs, snakes, shark. They're mostly hunted rather than farmed of course.
Bear are omnivores (except polar bears and they aren't generally eaten) the rest are cold blooded and therefore have a much higher efficiency of turning food into meat around 3-4 times better than mammals.
People eat cetaceans (whales and such) too. Snapping turtles, sea birds, cats, dogs, seals, spiders, crustaceans
My first guess is that herbivores just tastes better.
The casual occasionally Pokémon in your animations always make my day :)
I noticed Deerling, Ursaring, Magikarp, and maybe Lycanroc.
1:03 here
3:55 - Don't eat grass. Humans don't have a digestive system which handles grass well :p
Lol
It also has Silica which is harmful to our teeth if im right
The human stomach isn't very fond of cellulose, which is the main component of standard grass. Humans only have one stomach, unfortunately, in order to digest grass properly one would need a couple of stomachs. But, who knows, maybe one day :p
@@TimRobertsen the farther we stray from nature the worst things get
@@TimRobertsen how about grass juice
I'm sorry but I've eaten a few carnivores. Gator shark, Tuna, mackerel, and other carnivorous fish. Snake is also eaten. So the correct wording is humans usually avoid eating carnivores.
It's like you didn't even watch the video
The reason why fish are the exception it is because they are the animal oddball, normally an animal have to have high saturated fat, a fish as high non-saturated fat that is not transfat, and low staturated fat, while a normal animal even thought they only eat plant they have high staturated fat, even thought they only eat non-staturated fat. The oddball of the plant is the Coconut, and any other nut, since they have the opposite of the plant, they have high staturated fat as a plant. When I eat chicken that got high staturated fat I can Digest this no problem, Fish with high unstaturated fat I can digest that no problem. Plant with high staturated fat I have problem digesting that. Plant with high unstaturated fat no problem digesting
>Why won't we eat carnivores?
>Koreans who raise and eat dogs 😅
>Russians who hunt and eat bears 😊
>African tribes who hunt and eat leopards to consume their strength 😂
>Chinese who eat everything twitching in the vicinity of the chopstic attack 😮
Lol the last one
Who said Russians eat bears? wtf?
Actually, with the Korean part that’s racist as shit as a Korean American. Turns out, Korea actually banned dog meat now so no one eats dogs anymore
But be honest: cats and dogs don't taste good. The dogs in vietnamese and korean cuisine may be a delicacy there, but are very much an acquired taste for anyone who ever had a decent steak. I had cat once and will never repeat that experience. The Chinese approach - due to lack of sufficient meat sources - works better and after all, rats, mice and other small critters are usually omnivorous and not that bad - with a lot of soy sauce. All I can say is in Les Stroud voice: Mhhhhh, groundsquirrel....
>Floridians who literally farm alligators 😋
its also about numbers, alfa predators are usually not that many, a google search said that their is around 20-25k lions in the continent of africa. In sweden where I live there is 300k mooses and 500k deers but only 2500 bears.
I've had lion burgers, bear jerky, grilled shark, and snake every way you can think to cook it.
Well.....how they taste?
Those taste good.Lots of bear recipes available. Bear roast is delicious. Pay attention to meat temperature!
@@don_hato unremarkable surprisingly enough
@@don_hatoi don't know about the ones they mentioned but i tasted crocodile i think?or is it alligator whatever it is.It taste like fish but has hardness as chicken or the other way round i forgot.
My family got it as a souvenir and I'd say they taste alright so the we
So it's definitely not because of taste.
Maybe combination
- efficiency
- stigma
- safety
Also Gator dogs
Farmer/homesteader, here.🙋🏻♀It doesn’t take an expert to understand why we don’t farm bears, coyotes, mountain lions, etc. Besides the danger factor, you’d be spending more money feeding them than their meat is worth. Cows, sheep and goat all graze on grass that a farmer already has in abundance on their property. Chickens and pigs, in my opinion are even easier to raise because they will eat anything and everything. With that said, there are a lot of people in other countries that might eat carnivores regularly. Shark for example is a meat eaten quite often. As far as hunting goes, it’s just easier to hunt an animal that isn’t also hunting you.😂
"Why don't we eat carnivores?"
Chickens 🤨
Yeah, I was thinking "Tell me you don't know about chickens, without telling me you don't know about chickens." 😂 Chickens love meat. Hotdogs are my chicken's favorite treats.
chickens are omnivores
@@wolfcub824 chickens even eat fried chicken lmao
they addressed this in the first twelve seconds. chickens don't eat only meat
A major factor with the whole "it's more efficient to get the calories from plants" things seems to be that mostly humans got their calories from meat because of there being lots of inedible plants in an area so the animals were about to convert those inaccessible calories into edible calories. Otherwise it seems that most humans get their calories from plants much more often in regions where growing edible plants was most favorable...
Yeah... Humans don't eat grass. Vegans try to make this argument often and it's ridiculous.
Yup many herbivours can eat plants and parts of plants that we couldnt digest very well. We'd never survive eating grass. There probably aren't enough hours in a day to get enough calories to survive that way.
I’d heard it was just because they were smelly, but there were another reasons! 😮
This video is pretty much total BS. It's just allegedly cheaper, even though it isn't.
0:03 you forgot horse 😈 KAZAKHHH RAHHH🔥🔥🔥🇰🇿🇰🇿🇰🇿
He on that shavkat allistair overeem.
You forgot p*sssy RAAAH
@@notpaper-cr6nithey kind of taste like sashimi
@@Book_Theory. cool, do you know shavkat or allistair?
@@notpaper-cr6ni no? I was just saying on how they taste like
1:11 That's a lot of nasties!!!
Meanwhile in China = crocodile, python, dog, cat, bear, civet, mongoose, tiger etc on the menu.
not tigers or bears. There are almost no tigers or bears in China outside nature reserves.
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@@appa609 there are thousands of captive bears on horrific bile farms in China and Southeast Asia. When they die, their paws are in demand to make traditional cuisine.
Do you want covids? Because that how you get covids.
With the exception of non-native crocodiles, dogs and cats. All the other animals mentioned have received significant protection status. Eating these class protected animals may attract the attention of Chinese police, more likely when you flex about it on social media.
0:47 That's a Deerling. Oh! And an Ursaring and Magikarp!!! And ... a wolf.
That's a zacian i think
Splash?
"Inefficiency" sums it nicely. Large carnivores are harder to catch then herbivores of similar or bigger size, and is much easier to raise grazing flock then anything else in low resorce society. In fact in old time people were eating fast growing sheep much more then slower growing cattle, which were kept primarily for milk and as draft animals.
It's very simple... It's cheaper to mass produce herbivores, because you can feed them plants we don't eat. While carnivores eat animals we also want to eat, so to mass produce carnivores you need to mass produce herbivores a lot more, in order to feed the worlds population.
Ironically energy efficiency and bioaculmaltion were two themes I just went over on my bio exam from earlier today too lol
Its the most easy explanation that hunting a herbivore is easier than a carnivore for the risk of getting hunted down and the difference in numbers too. Thousands of herbivores vs few carnivores vs even lesser humans. Also Ockham's razor is a factor.
also when you pick an animal to keep against its will to breed and domesticate the choice is made for you by nature XD
I am vegan, does that mean I'm delicious? 😇
Jeffrey Dahmer aproved
no, sym
YES BRAV
Could be. Just gotta make sure the meat is well cooked to avoid the kuru. Almost makes me wanna carry some bbq sauce with me at all times. 🤪🤯
Yes!
All those animals you listed in the first few seconds were proven to be carnivores or at the very least opportunist hunters.
It seems that most cultures have ancestral taboos against eating the animals sitting on top of the food chain.
It's also usually a lot easier to hunt the herbivores. They're either fairly harmless like rabbits, or herd together making bigger targets for spears and bows, like bison, cows, or sheep. On the other hand, a lot harder to hunt something that's probably already hunting you. Something with dangerous claws and teeth as well as incredible speed and stealth.
1:17 pokemon lookin animals
Ursa ring?
they got deerling ursaring and magikarp
Oh no, the artists drew a subtle reference to the Pocket Monster series...I didn't even notice that until you pointed it out.
Native Americans if I remember correctly actually raised meat dogs so humans did have a carnivore meat source. But when Europeans came with their dogs, the Native American dogs went extinct so who knows if they had a more omnivorous diet rather then a meat based one.
Didn't know about this but I do know dogs are currently being eaten somewhere 👀
@@evawolflord not what I was expecting but yeah, Asian blackmarkets are prominent in selling exotic meats like dog.