Exploring an Abandoned Streetcar Graveyard
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In this episode we're venturing out to the site of a trolley graveyard. Here many streetcars from the 1930s, 40s, and 50s can be found. They were brought here with the intention of preserving and restoring them, but unfortunately many of them suffered from decay and vandalism. Join us as we explore these relics of the past.
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00:00 - Introduction
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01:47 - Streetcar History
03:04 - Exploration
18:06 - Conclusion 
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Long timer here years w this channel. Still you surprised me w these locationZ . B safe guy u both
I’m happy you guys got a sponsor, this kind of content really deserves it
Just ordered the vintage mint green celeste. Oh yeeeaaaah!
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Hello
Those remind me a lot like Phoenix Valley Metro Rail. They require a raised platform to board.
The curtain at 14:02 prevented light from the passenger compartment from reflecting off the windshield at night -- this would improve the driver's ability to see outside.
I’m honestly surprised the curtain was still intact, given how much the cars themselves were destroyed.
Interesting fact!
There are two types of people in this world:
1 - Those who see beauty and admire it
2 - Those who see beauty and destroy it
In reference to your 2. Their mentality is " Gee that looks good , my life sucks so yours should too. "
and the problem the world runs into is everyone has a different idea of whats beauty
In other words; conservatives versus leftists.
Those who destroyed them were the ones who dumped them there. That's rust. In fact the graffiti paint probably prolongs their life. Yeah the smashed glass, but if the windows weren't open they'd be full of mould out there in all weathers unheated.
@@bombtwenty3867 Does that also go for the ones that were inside a building where people broke in and damaged them?
Such a shame to destroy them for no other reason than destroy.
breakinn403 how did you comment 1 day ago?
@@Floridamermaid channel member maybe? my best guess
Transit agencies in the US love cutting corners to save money. If they can replace a trolley line with a cheaper bus route and get rid of 60-year old equipment in the process then they will.
MrCzechTexan you are wrong actually, it has to do with oil companies, oil companies and car companies lobbied against Street cars in order to sell more cars and busses, as well as to sell more Gasoline.
It is, but nature would have done that eventually anyway. Still sad to see,
One day I hope there's a graffiti and vandalism museum and someone breaks in and gloss paints over all the pieces and mends stuff.
Such a great comment. I could visualize a bunch of antique restorers and professional painters with hoodies and flashlights. Also, I watched a few of your robot videos and I’d love to have one in the corner of the living room that would greet me with a wave when I came home. (I’m not a programmer so that’s about all it would do, or try to strangle me).
🤣 Brilliant comment. Here, have tEh internets as a prize.
@MOLZAONER 2017 *Pieces.
While I absolutely get the sentiment, the ones publishing their graffiti art in museums or exhibitions are not the ones smearing their tags on historic property.
There is this one senior lady in Germany who sprays over offensive graffiti like swastikas or similar stuff with the color of the original surface to make it appear like nothing was ever there, or she sprays it over with non-offensive images.
Something like that could maybe be done in those cases if someone is willing to risk it.
Well, Graffiti is an art form. Many graffiti artists have been hired to do commissions. Then there's vandalism which is just stupid. One side of graffiti is vandalism, and another is actual art. I do agree that if there is some sort of museum that this should happen...but ye. I'm actually looking into the graffiti art style as like stuff to do with permission cause I like the bubble style of it all, It kinda hurts me to see people using such an amazing art form to vandalize stuff...We should fix this kind of shit back to its beauty my dudes
I went to the trolly graveyard 6 times in different seasons in the past 5 years. Graffiti was emerging insanely every time I got there, new ones, old ones being modified, tagging... one time I got there and 4 teens were painting different things outside of the train and when they saw me, they said: “let’s do some oriental ones.”
This place is very unique and beautiful, it’s probably the one and only in the world, when it’s gone, it’s gone. Please, let’s cherish it.
The owner put security cameras and hired guards to watch it now 😁
Some people are just the worst types of human beings imaginable. No respect for others, other's property, nature and, least of all, themselves. Truly despicable.
There were no guards when I went 2 months ago
@@shaugse it was on the news here I'm not sure maybe they couldn't pay for them anymore or something
I just dont understand the apeal of destroying cool stuff, it blows my mind.
Their mentality is " Gee that looks good , my life sucks so yours should too. "
Happened to an abandoned spot I've frequented a few times in the UK, there's an abandoned cottage that was left fully furnished with a beautiful old Jaguar in the garage last time I visted the Jaguar had been stripped of parts and vandalised :(
@@armchairgeneralissimo was that cottage in Romily by any chance?
exactly :((((
Really bad childhoods
10:53 That is a Pittsburgh streetcar. The "Red" and "Blue" lines on the map still exist today, albeit with more modernized multi-car trains. I used to take the blue line from Downtown to Library everyday for work. Boston and Pittsburgh both call their light rails the "T" and have a similar logo.
I hate taking the T. Two lines and yet I always end up on the wrong one.
I just made a similar post regarding Pittsburgh, but your post is more specific than mine. As a kid my grandmother would take me downtown and we'd hop on any streetcar that happened to come along. I remember Shannon Drake, Mt. Lebanon, and Beechview (which is seen in the video) as some of the routes we rode.
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I'm near Philly and Allentown is a suburb of Philly. And Penn station is also in Downtown Philadelphia
Yup, the old PCC cars
I took pictures there when I was in high school, and that was in the early-mid 90s. It wasn't vandalized like that back then. It's such a shame that people can't respect the beauty of what has been left behind, and have to go and destroy what so many others have, do, and/or could enjoy. Such is the state of things in America... 😔
Although this trolley graveyard has been covered by other youtube channels the Proper People's video is extremely well done and as always they managed to show details missed by others.
I admire their dedication to preserve our history and the places they visit. As much as I would love to see all the places they have been this video is a stark reminder why some of those places might best be kept in their personal archives.
I applaud the Proper People for their dedication in preservation. I look forward to your next video.
Amen. Stay safe.
They have restored some of those cars and they are running in Philadelphia on Girard Street
That’s incredible
At the moment, they're out of service being overhauled
Next time I visit family I wanna go there with my aunt. I wanna see them in person and take pictures!
Firefly lol weird asf
@@dirtd1ckmike554 how is that weird
According to some documentaries I have seen and movies like "Who Killed the Electric Car", General Motors (GM) went round purshasing all of the trolly car lines in the 1940's and 1950's and immediately closed them down. They were trying to build demand for the automobile. Disgusting behaviour with the benefit of hindsight ...
That is something that occured, I think it was even alluded to in Who Framed Rodger Rabbit
Car companies killed public transit esentially.
And the Government. People pay a lot more for fuel then for tickets... plus rego, tires etc... Government makes a lot more money from cars...
It was done to sell buses more than it was for cars. GM realized street cars were going out of business and wanted them to purchase their new buses. Back in the 40s everybody didn't have a car like today - a LOT of people still rode the train/bus.
Also Electric street cars are a long term investment (costs more upfront ). Fuel is short term, companies like the lower cost up front.
In the late 1940s GM, Firestone, Gulf Oil, and (IIRC) a couple of other fossil-fuel companies formed a false front called National City Lines. NCL presented themselves as a white-knight company that would rescue struggling transit systems by consolidating things like management, procurement, etc. Instead, soon after taking control of a company they'd rip up streetcar routes and either replace them with (GM) buses or abandon them entirely. They outright killed a lot of smaller systems and weakened larger ones.
NCL wasn't, as some claim, the only reason trolley* systems failed. There were already a lot of factors in play like deferred maintenance after WWII, massive federal highway construction, legal restrictions, etc. But NCL *did* hugely exploit those factors. We'll never know how many systems might have survived if NCL's treachery had been uncovered earlier.
* P.S. rather than "trolly" :)
Hi! I live in the town these street cars are located. Just popping on here to say I love your channel. Also here to warn people that I'm sure you filmed this a while ago as you guys have hoodies and hats on so, you may not know this but if anyone decides to try to go to this "grave yard" I would not recommend it. The owner has implemented high tech security cameras and security on sight, since covid hit too many people have been going and destroying these cars. They may look abandoned but the owner loves his trollies. Please please please don't destroy the history of any "abandoned" places I know Michael and Bryan never do but to anyone else, take notes cause they're the best kind of urban explorers. Keep up the great work guys! ❤
Where is this located?
@@Xenythxcentral Pennsylvania
I heard only the front part of his property actually has security cameras; and it's still easy for people to sneak there? Either way, yes, people please don't destroy beautiful places!
they look like they bout to fall apart, ''abandoned''not the right word anymore😂
its a personal collection?
Honestly it makes me sad that people destroy history. Some people just want to watch the world burn.
Too often in the US, if anything goes abandon, some people just want to trash it. I want to understand the psychological underpinnings. If I recall correctly trips to Russia have comparable results. Note so much with western Europe and Asia.
Humans are a pretty sad species.
Look at what is happening in the US today. The Marxists are hellbent on destroying history piece by piece.
@@edwardwood6532 I have the mentality tbh. I think it's because it is fun to find the goodies, then burn it, and salvage it
@@freedomisslavery6840 Agreed. One only need to read Das Kapital to see these morons retracing the failed steps of the past. Scary to be honest.
If you ever want to know what being on one of these was like, go to New Orleans and ride the St. Charles line. The rolling stock are 1920s Perley Thomas (yes, the same company who makes school buses) streetcars, with replacement parts crafted locally. There is no air conditioning. The seating is simple wooden benches. The lights will go out from time to time. Sometimes, a really loud motor under your feet will start up, stay on for a minute, then stop. Occasionally, a power surge will trip the main circuit breaker, and there might even be a spark or two, and the conductor will have to flip an enormous switch above their head to turn the car back on.
And I love them and miss them so much.
Do you have any idea what the really loud motor under the floor would be?
Chanchito My guess would be an air compressor for the brakes and probably the doors.
Oh thats so cool!
@@basshead2003 Yeah I was thinking something along those lines like a vacuum pump.
@@chanchito4401 It is a air compressor.
9:07 Those are T trains/trolleys for the Green Line serving for the Massachusetts Bay Transportation Authority, the MBTA for short. The Green Line consist of serving Boston, passing through the Back bay and South end. Moving onto a split, one ending in the southern side of Brookline and the other continuing to split again moving into the middle section of Brookline and the rest heading up towards Allston and Brighton. The remaining line heads to Chestnut hill and ending in Newton. The Green Line is still in service today, with repairs to improve the MBTA’s outdated track, systems, and over all improvements for their riders.
10:58 As for that train/trolley, it’s a PAtransit trolly. PAtransit servers the city of Pittsburgh Pennsylvania, the modern day PAtransit Trollys serve the Red line which servers Greenbrook and Beechside. The miss conception is that the PAtransit logo is very similar to the MBTA T logo, both Having black T’s circled with the white background. The difference between the logo’s is that the PAtransit logo has a T shaped white line in the middle of the T. So it was a misconception on the lines logo’s, one servers Boston and one server Pittsburgh.
Hope I could help spread information and give some history on these trains, if you read this _have a great and wonderful day!_
This is not part of Boston's Orange Line. Google Overbrook and Beechview -- they're Pittsburgh, not Boston.
@@atallguynh He's talking about 2 lines.. and where did you get Orange from!?
@@pendragnx he edited his comment to remove the original reference to Boston's Orange Line.
@@atallguynh For Sure on the Green line MBTA boston l Funnys to see an Ad for a down town boston Department Sore Filenes Basement long gone!!! PCC are alive and well today on the bostons red line exstention n!
I've heard about this place and while I was in Washington Pennsylvania at the streetcar Museum I asked some of the volunteers if they had heard of it and if they planned on trying to get some of the cars out and save them and they said it just simply was not possible to get them out which is a shame hopefully something can be done to save some of the cars that are salvageable
Do you remember exactly where.
Theyre all privately owned and on private land. Owner hardly EVER gives permission to visit.
@@tylerbowers6378
....why....do wanna tag 'em....
Scrap
Love going to the Trolly Museum! Its awesome to see the refurbished ones in working condition
There's something so creepily beautiful about Pennsylvania Coal Country in late fall.
The early greyhound busses from the 40's I find just as awesome as the streetcars! The way them busses were designed, just about the only difference between them and the older Presidents' Conference Committee trollies as far as design I could tell is that the busses had wheels with street tires instead of rail wheels. It's like they designed the early Greyhound busses to copy the PCC streetcars.
I haven’t read all of the comments so I apologize if this is a duplicate answer to your question as to the trolley with the map on it. That one is from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania and it went through the South Hills region of Pittsburgh. It has two Main lines that go through the South Hills and one ends up at South Hills Village and the other one ends up in library, PA. When they were new, they were built back in the early 80s when Pittsburgh introduced the “subway.“ Our Subway actually only went through downtown but it was above ground through most of the route with a few tunnels on the route. Most of the lines that went through the South Hill, were the actual original street car routes. However, over the years, they have been modified. But that was really cool to see the trolley that I used to ride on when I was a teenager. Thanks for having this video today. It brought back memories.
I grew up with these trolleys in Philly. Took one to school every day from North Philly to Center City. Used to be tons of them. No gas, no pollution, CRAZY TORQUE when they took off. And nicer than a bus, car or train. The tracks were on the corner where I lived... I can still hear the electrical arcing from the overhead line and see the sparks... and hear them whizzing by. Grand memories... Some people think they were like the size of a bus, but they are about 2x longer and 1.5x wider... very classy to ride in... they were phased out of Philly in the late 1990s. We had the future in the past.. 100% electric vehicles... way, WAY back since the early 1900s
4:13 the fare price would probably be more telling, but a sticker will only help you identify when it was last used. Stickers get replaced with time!
Yes. Exactly. They probably got retired in the late 90s
@@paulbenish8982 SEPTA retired the ex-CTA cars in the mid-90s when they finally took (very late) delivery of the N-5 cars.
Great episode! The streetcar history and decline is a very sad story in modern American history as the car, oil and tire manufacturers worked to pressure public transportation lines into extinction for economic benefit. I applaud the originator of this street car graveyard for trying to preserve these cast-off relics while mourning their decline and destruction by ignorant vandals. Happy to see this post and thank you for it. Cheers mates!
In the great word of Owen Wilson..."Wow"
Soon as I saw the title I said "wow!!!
But he spells it, "Wahhhhhoooowwwwwwuhhhh."
"the the" great 😑
@@rckblykitn thanks!
Anyone else heard it? 🤣
So sad people have to vandalize and destroy the trolley cars of the past. Really enjoyed your video!
7:40 They're from the early 80's. That textured stainless is no where near that old. That stainless trim is McNichols 5-SM 1600 textured sheet. I have used it in my designs at work.
I was going to say the same thing. They used the same material in New York City buses from that period as well.
It was added in the 80s for easy maintenance.
3:30 These trains were sold to SEPTA late in their lives. They're originally CTA 6000 series trains from Chicago, constructed 1950-1959. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/6000-series_(CTA)
Spam Canz
I thought they looked familiar
But where did SEPTA run them? I don't recall cars like that on the underground subway lines. I'm thinking they ran on the Media/Sharon Hill lines out of 69th Street, but I don't remember if those cars only ran on raised platforms. The Media/Sharon Hill lines are remnants of the Interurban era, and I knew them as the "red line" only recently subsumed into SEPTA in the 70's.
@@tracedehaven2190 At the time septa rann theses cars on their light rail line but they didn't fit
@@tracedehaven2190 They ran on the Norristown High Speed Line from Upper Darby to Norristown. They were needed because the existing Brill cars were no longer serviceable but the N-5 replacements were delayed.
I rode them to work almost every day. They showed every mile they'd racked up in Chicago, but kept the NHSL from being shut down.
Here in England we had streetcars (called trams) of which some 1920s and 30s examples still survive and operate in a seaside town called Blackpool.
You could tell that was PA just by the thumbnail.
Been waiting on this video for a long time ever since we talked about you guys being in Pennsylvania! Finally I can see the journey
As amature railfan, this hurt to see these once busy cars just rotting away...
Seeing those Septa logos brings back a lot of memories of Philly. I lived there for quite a while and fortunately after college I was able to afford a vehicle of my own! "Septa Sucks" we used to say (buses were always late as hell)
I lived there too an truly septa sucks
Talk to anyone and they'll say their city's transit is lousy. Except NY or London, and probably even then...
Systematically Eliminating Public Transit Altogether
@11:09 that trolley is the Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania “T”
I recognized the T logo. And immediately saw Steel Plaza and Beechview and knew that had to be Pittsburgh.
I googled and it came up with Penn Station, NYC LOL. Bumping so your comment is seen tho!!!
as a yinzer, I was screaming
Pat buses and the T!
yup, they were still running a few of the old cars once in a while when i was a kid more years ago than i care to mention, before the 80's trains took over completely for their time til the new ones replaced them too. there's an episode of Mr. Rogers with him riding the T out into the south hills that shows what the old trains like the one in that railyard looked like back when they were still running.
The T is actually what we call our trolleys here in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Penn Station is actually in Pittsburgh. The whole route map is all Pittsburgh. And by Allentown, it’s not Allentown, PA. It’s a whole different place near Pittsburgh. PA-Transit, is Pittsburgh. The street cars are all from different states, but they were all mainly on the rail lines for Pittsburgh.
No the T are Boston cars.
Michael Arnold Here in Pittsburgh, we call our trolley’s T trains, but the cars here in the graveyard are actually from different states than just Pennsylvania. So yes.
@@AmongTheUnknown But other systems, such as Boston, use a similar naming scheme. The green ones with the T are, 100%, certainly, ex-Boston vehicles.
@@nordisk1874 You guys are both right, and for those who aren't from Boston, the whole rail system is called "The T" - short for MBTA or Massachusetts Bay Transportation Authority. There are trolley trains, traditional subway trains, and diesel-electric commuter-rail trains that have routes from the suburbs into two stations in the center of Boston. The T also includes bus routes.
I believe the green ones are Boston. Before quarantine, I was on the T daily and those look exactly like our green line trolleys. Also the ad he zoomed in on stated a location of “Downtown Crossing” which confirms it was for Boston.
My family took a trip to Ft. Smith, Arkansas for spring break a couple years back and we got to ride in a near 100 year old trolley. I was fortunate enough to get to drive it too. There’s a few in a shop at the main station that the owner will let you board and take photos with. If you’re ever near Fort Smith I recommend getting the chance before they inevitably lose funding or stop operating. Great video as always, though :)
Good mix of street cars and rapid transit cars, at least museums like “Illinois Railway Museum” have many streetcars and rapid transit cars, to keep their history and show people the past of transportation. Can’t wait to see more videos soon.
The Priority Seating sticker says "80's" to me.
I thought the same thing.
And the cost of the fare
But the stickers are just added on at appropriate times in history. The cars were built way earlier than the stickers.
Exactly. Car is probably 50s or 60s, sticker is probably 80s or 90s. They can run these cars a long time if they are maintained. Newark Subway ran PCC cars for over 60 years before replacing them. And $1.50 fare is pretty recent. In Los Angeles fare is still $1.75.
Possibly even ‘90s, with the $1.50 fare. Growing up in the outskirts of Toronto, in ‘89 the (student) cash fare was $1.10. Taking currency conversion into account, I’d say mid ‘90s.
They look like they could be taken straight from the fallout universe. That futuristic curved design is fantastically retro.
The “Allentown Line” trolley is from Pittsburgh. Allentown is a neighborhood in the city limits as well as Overbrook and Beechview which are in bold on the sign. All are in the South Side/South Hills of Pittsburgh.
Used to live in Pgh and took the Allentown line to Beechview...sometimes rode the entire line from Wood St to South Hills Village Mall...that was usually an interesting ride..lots of characters
I love how you explain everything In your videos, this is especially useful for people who don’t live in the US like me 👏🏼
Awesome! Personally I love the styling of the Presidents' Conference Committee style of streetcars. Who knew a place existed where there are so many still there at one place? Now I really need to order a few PCC models in HO scale, and add them to my model railroad layout!
That leaning car is from Pittsburgh, our system is the T. Allentown is a Pittsburgh neighborhood which also still has the gound level line that is sometimes utilized. Boston's system is also called the T if i remember. Pittsburgh ran the PCC cars until 1999 before they switched to the new cars. It is pronounced Pat Transit.
Bryan, your comment at the end was incredible. Not sure what I enjoy most, the visits to the iconic locations, or the almost plea you make to all about preserving tangible items so we have a physical link to the past. I have great respect for what you and Michael do and thoroughly enjoy all of your videos and the respect you have for the locations you visit. I believe one of my favorites was the Power plant. You made the statement that the architects (and I’m paraphrasing) were just a concerned with the visual details as they were functionality. That was one of the best exits to an episode ever. Great work gents, keep them coming!
There are 2 kinds of people in the world.Those who create. And those who destroy. Taggers and vandals are destroyers. The Proper People are creators. Thanks for that. Thanks for the vid!
You say that like it's a bad thing. I don't create anything. My goal every day is the be as destructive as possible. I have fun crushing breaking and destroying. The best part is people pay me to do it and even cheer me on. Just another perspective.
@@lightningdemolition1964 There's a difference between doing it for legal reasons and doing it to destroy out of spite or other motives.
There are some Boston trolleys there. Some of those similar old cars are still in use today.
Indeed they are! Here's an article if anyone wants to read about the history of Boston's Green-Line Trains.
www.boston.com/uncategorized/noprimarytagmatch/2012/08/31/recent-changes-history-of-mbtas-green-line#
Yup. Gotta love the green line .. 😅
@@ian_everywhere
Thank you for this. Wonderful reading...
Alas, it's going to send me into the rabbit 🐇 hole 🕳️ of the interwebs tonight.
But I still want to thank you for my soon to be increased knowledge on this fascinating time!
@@1259523 Glad to help! It's so fascinating how infrastructure changes over time. Enjoy the web surfing!
I’ve been in one when I visited, and it was pleasantly terrifying!
5:30 the pull string is to tell the operator you want off at the next stop, not immediately. :)
Public buses in Baltimore City during my youth- early 90's had the same system. I had forgotten til I saw your comment 😉
Some old L.A. Metro buses still have those cords you pull to request the next stop. Newer buses have buttons.
In London busses there are buttons dotted around the bus which ring a bell telling the driver if you want to get off on the next stop, we still have them.
Wasn’t that long ago when that was a thing new jack
My profile picture was taken here ! This is a HUGE spot for local kids to explore. Living in a area with nothing to do (central PA), people visit these trolleys a lot !
I personally love this video. I am an admirer of old trains and trams so for me this was a treat. I enjoyed seeing them decaying alone in that superb woods scenery, all crammed together on that old railways. Even with that ugly grafity on them, they still represent a portion of beautiful public transportation history. Big thumbs up for this video, love you guys for your work!!!
14:45 "its slammed" hahaha
Thank god for a new PP video
😂😂😂I know the pun wasn't intended but yeaa I'm all stuck in the gutters XD
I love watching your videos. There's a certain atmosphere about them, if that's the right word, cause you two don't trash places you go and you give as much history as possible about the location you're visiting. I love it
i just love watching these and i always look forward to a new episode nearly every week, it makes me look forward to something during lockdown to make time faster... and it is a shame to see how people vandalize the past as it is a work of art really.
11:07 That car is from Allegheny Transit Authority in Pittsburgh
*Good job!*
I love that you guys do exactly me and my friends do when seeing places like this. Taking pictures and videos and ruining nothing.
so sad.... when I lived in San Jose, calif. they reintroduced the trolley as "Light Rail" it was and still is the funnest way to travel! why these are still abandoned is crazy! mass transit is the best way to travel in a large city!
I always heard the car and oil company's got to together and bought most of the streetcars in America just to shut them down. Not a fact just what someone told me.
Good ol' PAT. "Let's take the PAT bus to Monroeville." "The T to Station Square." Good times.
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2:45 Massachusetts Bay Transit authority Green line car for the B line - Boston College route. Haven’t seen one of those in years....
9:10 Those are in fact Boston - the classic “T” on the side 👍
11:00 Not Boston
Thanks for another great video, guys!
Yes !! And that ad he zoomed in on confirmed it was definitely Boston with “Downtown Crossing”. Very cool!
That's Pittsburgh
Excellent video, thank you guys so much! I grew up in the early 50's in southern CT, about 25 miles from Manhattan...brings back old memories!
Awesome thankyou for putting up a great video just when my power went out bc of a storm! Now I have something to watch! ❤
Imagine if these streetcars would have been left with the doors closed and windows not smashed, bet they would be in a lot better condition, sad that people have to destroy things.
Rust would've got to them anyways
Wouldn't have been as bad in places if the windows and doors were still closed, the graffiti on the exterior may help preserve some of the metal though
@@michaelkessler3813 The older ones would have rusted so badly that the windows fell out anyway, cant stop time just so you can go and take photos how much you pray and hope, time gets it all.
Do you ever want to see the abandoned steam locomotives up here in Maine?
I believe the map you're looking at around 11:00 minutes is from Pittsburgh. And at 11:45 where you say "P Transit", if you look again there is a lower-case "a" in between the P and the T --- the public transit system in Pittsburgh was PAT which I guess was an acronym for Port Authority Transit (but you'd think the P would represent Pittsburgh. Oh well. Love all your videos!
Glad that some cities retain their trolley lines. Taking a trolley/streetcar is probably the best way to go downtown (at least where I live). Driving into a major city, trying to find parking, and paying a lot to park for a limited time is a pain.
"Clang, clang, clang goes the trolley!"
Ding, ding, ding goes the bell
Back in the days when large group of strangers from differing stations in life road together, talked and laughed. They were social and polite. Hard to believe we’ve fallen so far from what was.
ok boomer
Zero Cool , I road one everyday school, and some did read the paper but I remember most people talking. I guess it depends on where you are from.
My friends and I drove out from Boston to Pittsburgh with the intentions of stopping here along the way. Never actually did and we were all way too hung over on the drive back to actually stop. but now this makes me want to go back and actually go.
Also, as I'm sure has been pointed out, the MBTA (T) is from Boston. All the green trolleys are from the T's green line.
Thanks for the video lads, good stuff. Keep them coming 👍
damn, didn't expect this to be so sad :\
Another awesome video, boys! Thank you ! 🙂
@9:11 the green ones are from Boston, and ran the green line complete until 1986. That model was installed during Mayor Michael Curley's time, 1930s. They still ran on the E line to the Arnold Arboreteum for a time, and they ran them in Mattapan Dorchester through the early 90s at least. I rode those as a child and teen.
It's sad to see what people will do... Just glad there are people like you guys that do show the proper respect they deserve.
A Streetcar Named Discarded.
Thank you for the Tennessee Williams reference
That T logo is almost exactly the logo of the metro system of Stockholm, Sweden. (Metro/Subway=Tunnelbana)
Tunnel banana!
These tracks are actually declared abandoned rail. The nearby mainline and other spurs are also long abandoned so these mostly would have been brought in on flat cars with special ramps used now days by maintenance of way and salvage companies before line closure since there aren't any roads to the tracks. Class III railroads can ties and track in that condition however as the ties fail and the spikes let go of the rail they are going to be buried in leaves.
Welcome back guys.....love your videos! Thank you! I lived in Zagreb Croatia and would take street cars every day. Yes they still have them there! It was really cool to experience that. Keep in mind that graffiti would have been there from when they were in use. Back in the 60's 70's subway cars in NYC were covered with graffiti. They did a good job in securing them better in the yards and removing it. Seldom see a tag on a car there anymore. 11:13 it is Pittsburgh.
Did you find one named “Desire”?
Finally....Love this Channel
I wonder how long it would take Mother Nature to re-claim EVERYTHING humans have built......1000 years? 2000 years..? Hmmm
From what I have read Mt Rushmore will be one of the last remaining human artifacts. It’s carved into solid granite which erodes at a rate of about 1 inch every 10,000 years. The noses on the faces are 240 inches long which would mean the faces would still be recognizable for around 2.4 million years. The only things I can think of that would/could destroy it (other than human stupidity) is a meteor or a glacier caused by another ice age. Food for thought.
Another awesome video guys!!! Can't believe how many there were just being left to be rotting and vandalize. Can't wait for another awesome video soon
It’s amazing to see that the tracks are still there. They continues after the hangar we can see at the end of the video. Some portions disappeared but in some spots, there are still out there. The street cars are on a storage way. Tracks stops in the wood.
I see some ex Toronto Transit Commission cars that were sold to many American cities.
Those are PCC cars which used a common design, with local modifications for each system. Toronto was one of dozens of cities that used PCCs.
They were all so beautiful (aside from the graffiti, or course). Its a shame to hear that people went out of their way to destroy pieces of history like this.
Exactly, and now they will never see work again left to rot. It's even worse when it's something that's been actively repaired, and looked after when they're burnt to husks, destroyed or treated like fing bathrooms.
@Zero CoolTo me, there's a sort of beauty in natural decay, and as it was mentioned in the video, most of the graffiti took away some of that awe, though there were a few good pieces.
@Zero Cool When people break into building(s) though to tag the ones that were in good condition though, like TPP said in the video?
Your intro is spot on amazing! Memorable! And no need to skip it, lenght is perfect too. Please dont ever change the music/style. Its ok to change the locations/pictures.
These Streetcars are more like the 40's & 50's Vintage .... Cool find! As you can see very sadly there are people that have no respect for the past and you can see that even more today.
Yes - the PCC design was introduced in 1936 but most were built in the 1940s and early 1950s. The SEPTA cars at 3:51 were former CTA "L" cars made during the 1950s, although they included a lot of recycled PCC components.
Destroying things you don’t own is wrong!
IMO Anyone caught destroying property should have to personally pay for the damages caused + a fine!
Longest longest time follower here much love guy. I’m Always surprised with these crazy ass locations. Keep the Shitt up . I’m so proud man
guys, out of all the channels im subbed to, i get most excited for when YOU upload videos! and then i hear the intro tune and im like AHHHH!!!! keep it up, I just love your content! :)
i grew up in the 60's 70's 80's loved exploring places abandoned houses cars trains... im from NYC and long island. it really pains me to see graffiti and vandalism 😢 when i heard they went after the restored ones... ? me and friends went out like you both never came to mind to break windows spray paint.. its so damn sad to see this.. i grew up riding on these and old buses. it had a feel sound smell. im glad you know the history and names of things. more power to you both. be safe & keep exploring 👍
It is a real shame, some people are just terrible humans. Destroying something someone(s) have sunk countless hours into restoring for it to be taken away in an instant, from anything to windows and graffiti to being burnt to husks.
One minute into the video and can't help but sit over here talking to myself, "Nawww, there's no way in hell that these streetcars are "semi-abandoned." Look at these things! If they're gunna be going somewhere anytime soon, I need to know where... and why?! Lol. It'll cost millions to get these things transported out of here. I think that these things are simply "abandoned." Period. 😅🤭
With that said, it sucks that they were completely destroyed. It really does. I wish they knew who was responsible, so that they could all be charged accordingly.
That's honestly not true. The owner loves his trolleys.. I live in the town. He can't keep up with the vandals.
I can imagine an ad about streetcars being subject to vandalism and you can help for just 1.99 a month
guys one of the things i like about your vids is the narrative thx so much for sharing i for one will say well done. waiting for the next one be safe.
You know I watch a lot of your shows when my son hears your theme song and has to come running into my room to watch.. cause he knows exactly what I am watching. He is 8 btw and loves your shows
This reminds me of the train graveyard in finale fantasy VII.
I live by SanFrancisco Bay which is home to one of the oldest ship graveyards. SOme ships date back to WWII!
Thats really cool (:
Almost all of them are gone now. Only about ten left. They are going to be all removed soon.
When I was a kid, I used to ride on these street cars. I've seen extensive videos of where you are and other places like this one.
You guys are first class , thank you for taking the time an effort to bring places like this to life where most of us would never see .
Heyo! I live 10 mins from here. Hit up Torrence Mental State hospital while you're in the area!
They probably left a long time ago, because they have a large backlog of videos and don't edit them until months or years later. They've explained it in their Q&A videos.
make a gofundme for the guy whos build and trains got damaged.
i love the proper people so much for so many reasons.
1. they don’t destroy beautiful things. they leave them exactly how they were so other people can experience the same thing they did, but some people take advantage of that and it’s so sad.
2. they put effort into their videos. they take their time to edit and pick out soundtracks, and you can tell. but, i also like that there’s almost no music throughout the whole video.
3. they don’t try to make it scary. they’re real and show us what it’s really like to go to these places. they don’t over exaggerate just to get views.
4. the calmness in every video. it’s so calming to watch these videos, not to mention so cool. it’s like the perfect mix of the two.
5. they take the time to learn the history, and then teach it to us. it makes such a difference to learn the real history of all of these places, and makes the experience of watching these videos so much more surreal.
6. they’re getting it out there, even if it’s not doing much, that graffitiing these beautiful places is such a horrible thing. these places would be so much better if they were preserved.
thank you guys for the effort you put into your videos. i love what you’re doing here.
not to mention their pure talent. they’re so talented at videography, and photography and it’s so much better than just a camera and a crappy mic.
Fantastic as always. Really look forward to your drops....been missing the Proper People. Thanks guys.