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At the very least, the main difference is that Concord felt like it was a Guardians of the Galaxy knock off and this game isn't knocking off one thing, but just a mix of a bunch of 80s anime references. So it's slight difference, but yes I agree.
@@SabrPathsure the theme and environment looks only similar, but that doesn’t mean the games will be the same let alone even comparable. Concord if a fps pvp hero shooter online game. Intergalactic is going to have a huge over arching story in its potential trilogy and whole story. So no, these games are actually gone be entirely different games as concord hardly even lived up to its teaser trailer art style and intergalactic will go far more in-depth in the space travel bounty hunter game
Naughty Dog has not been doing nearly as well as western game journalists would want you to believe. Part 2 did not sell nearly as well as Part 1, and the constant remasters of those games is annoying people and I would assume they've been selling like ass too. This new game just makes it obvious that Druckmann just wants to self-immolate and take as many people working at Naughty Dog down with him. Allah willing, Druckman will be fired and replaced with someone who actually wants to bring Naughty Dog back to the era where they actually made fun games like Jak and Daxter.
Salaam alaikum. I think Druckman got a taste of Hollywood from working on the HBO series and he's using this as his portfolio piece to help him transition from video games to movies. He gave us a 4.5 min video that only gave us "vibes"
My main problem with the trailer is not the main character. People remember the first Last of Us teaser? Damn! It was exciting, it was promising, and filled people with hype. This is the teaser for the first Naughty Dog new IP in more than 10 years, and it is extremely unimaginative (a fricking crime for Naugty Dog) from a studio now directed by an asshole were the only gameplay teased looks extremely generic, safe and so predictable. And to the people who dont understand why people complain about the main character... Have you been living under a rock the last ten years? How can people fail to understand the vast mayority of "gamers" are adult, heterosexual males who had been complaining for every forced change in their games and has been called every "phobe" variation in return? You even now have channels with hundred of thousands of followers on people just calling games woke and gay! The gaming industry is so ffar from what once were... well , I just wish you the best with Beware Tomorrow, I'll be checking it out!
I completely agree with your point about The Last of Us. It had world building, character building and gave an idea of what the gameplay was. Intergalactic's trailer is twice as long and does a far worse job at all of that. And thanks for the support!
A few problems I have with the trailer is the description says thousands of years int he future yet somehow we are mixing in current universal companies/lore which takes me out, and also reading the description, it says I will be stuck on a planet which means I will not get to cruise space which is what the trailer shows me
The product placement definitely takes me out as well. Back when I was a little kid, it was cool seeing a Pizza Hut logo in the snow level of the Ninja Turtles game on NES. It made it feel like it was in our world. But this trailer throws so many logos in our face in such a short time frame, that it makes it feel like they're all sponsored ads.
Genuinely, can anyone give me a valid reason for all this hate...? I see a teaser for retro scifi game, far too early for anyone to be giving it this kinda hate? If your only issue is "ugly woman" then dont even waste your energy responding 😭
@@SabrPath Yeah right until you started discussing the characters look? I fail to see how thats relevant to a game being good? Not to mention saying you know their sexuality because of her look Youre very much the person i dont want to hear from here 🤷 I want valid reasons this game looks bad Not "ugly woman"
People don't want to play as someone who's ugly. Simple as. It's called "advertising." Very basic stuff. Good-looking people sell more products than ugly people. Do you need a math lesson while we're at it? 1+1=2. Just as simple. @@Digi-Dev
@@Digi-Dev You didn't watch the whole video. There is nothing more to say. You sound like a liberal. I understand that there are a lot of conservatives that only care about sexulization of women and are dishonest about it (which is of course 100% wrong) but you have to understand that there are more nuanced perspectives out there. This is one of them. Jumping on a hate bandwagon isn't doing anyone any good.
@@MaximumPayine I did try watching the video again, but I honestly couldn't get through it Really appreciate the assumptions about me tho! Have a wonderful day
After recording this video, I learned that Neil Druckman has stated that the game will be about a fictional religion and that the story will be about "what happens when you put your faith in different institutions." I'm very certain this game will mock religion in general. I have never seen main stream media portray fictional religions in a positive light, especially in a sci-fi setting. The religion is always a cult. A recent example is the 2021 Guardians of the Galaxy game. I think the trope that religions are over-controlling and all being cults is over-done and void of creativity.
There is nothing Neil Druckman can say about religion that will be fresh or unique. I'm sure it will be like all the other times Hollywood types try to say anything about it. "...what happens when you put faith in different institutions" 🙄 get over yourself bro Except for Paul Schrader of course. His work isn't necessarily positive about religion, but it's way way WAY more interesting than the typical mainstream "commentary."
Brother, this is how most atheists think. I know that sounds like a generalization but unfortunately, it the truth because atheism requires it's "followers" to degrade religion because atheism has nothing to offer; either morally, intellectually, or spiritually. It's a basic case of trying to uplift itself by putting down others. It's all synthetic fluff. This was the case even with Dead Space where the head writer, Warren Ellis, portrayed Unitology as a cult. He also wrote for the Netflix Castlevania animated series, a series mind you that has HEAVY thematic foundations in religion and requires that to be taken in a positive note, yet he portrays it as evil and without nuance. Again, you can't expect ANY of these big name game developers to portray religion in a positive way because this is what atheism is a very nihilitic way of looking at the world. BTW, I'm not saying that there can't be respectful atheists. There can be but these are a minority because again, the foundational principles of atheism requires one to tear down what's around it to TRY and uplift itself and it NEVER works.
So going to say here that I'm not attempting to undermine any of your beliefs and ideals- nor that I feel anything I say should sway your over all faith. However, I will say that be definition all religions are cults and for the modern day, most are in fact overly controlling. The reason so many religions in games appear this way in said games is because for most- this is what they feel like regardless of where you go or who you deal with. Within the whole of those collective religious groups there are smaller pockets of people who have more human aligned reasoning and that reasoning tends to allow them on a person level to not be so controlling. But when people step back and look at the larger picture you can often see many, many examples of this not being true to the point that the bulk affect general society in such a way that it leaves a bad taste. There is also the understanding that when it comes to story line, you have one of two things within human history to manifest absolute and blind obedience, religion and or authoritarianism/dictatorships. So more often than not it will be the process that adds the detail to the story not the base line concept. Akin to having a simple sugar cookie. Its simple, the base ingredients are there, the taste is expect but its the process of how its made and the quality of things that often brings out a unique flavor and experience. When I saw this trailer, I didn't get the feeling of "oh this person is this or that." The only way you get that idea is if you allow your personal biases to take over and assume those details. Now, given the history of things- sure the character could very, very well come off that way for one reason or another. But, if you're looking in the background you can see a picture where she had at some point in time more hair, though it appeared more fro like. Its not uncommon for people of color to just cut their hair off completely for one reason or another. I've done it, plenty of other people have done it, gender/identity not being a point of concern. What I saw in the trailer was a woman- who was like Riply from Alien 3. I personally don't care about the CD's in the 80's astatic, more and more of the new generations won't know what a cassette-tape is and thus putting it into the game would not invoke those similar feelings of nostalgia that it did for people of our generation. I think too many people currently have been heavily jaded by the gaming industry but also by society as a whole and thus are often inclined to jump the gun on their presumptions of what something is going to be when they first see the reveal. As a whole, I found your video informative and interesting, but I have really only more push back and that's with the idea of "embracing" something. I absolutely can and will agree that there are constructive ways to do so. But the end goal is over all universal- everyone just wants to be accepted for who they are and for people to just treat them as normal/human. The idea is no different then when someone has religion that is different from those around them- yet they are not trying to push their faith upon someone else. You just want to be able to perhaps show your faith, wear your attire of your faith, symbols and just still be treated normal. This is what accepting and embracing someone else's ideas and culture can be. I will also say that should this game in any true way push the certain ideologies and or concepts in an unnatural or uninteresting way then yes- NaughtyDog absolutely executed on this idea and I was wrong. I have no problems admitting to that. But as it stands with so little to actually go off of in regards to the game, gameplay and story I think its a bit unreasonable to allow our selves to give into that jaded history- so far NaughtyDog has not given us bad games. They have all been games we enjoy and I think that's important. Now if the game itself is just inherently against your faith or you feel there's too many things against your faith- that's fine. I can understand where you're coming from and that's fair! But I feel the arguments being made right now are too heavily biased to be properly informed.
Looks like my c0mment was deIeted by Tr@shtube. Typical. I'll p0st it ag@in. Br0ther, this is h0w m0st @theists think. I kn0w that s0unds Iike a gener@Iiz@ti0n but unf0rtun@teIy, it the truth because @thei$m requires it's "f0II0wers" t0 degr@de reIigi0n because @theism has n0thing to 0ffer; either m0raIIy, inteIIectuaIIy, 0r spiritu@IIy. It's a b@sic case 0f trying t0 upIift itseIf by putting d0wn 0thers. It's @II synthetic fIuff. This w@s the c@se even with De@d Sp@ce where the head writer, W@rren EIIis, p0rtr@yed Unit0I0gy as a cuIt. He aIs0 wr0te for the NetfIix C@stIevania @nim@ted series, @ series mind y0u that has HE@VY thematic f0und@ti0ns in reIigi0n @nd requires that to be taken in a p0sitive n0te, yet he p0rtrays it as eviI and with0ut nuance. Again, y0u can't expect ANY 0f these big name g@me deveI0pers t0 p0rtr@y reIigi0n in a p0sitive w@y because this is wh@t @theism is @ very nihiIitic w@y 0f I00king @t the w0rId. BTW, I'm n0t s@ying th@t there c@n't be respectful @thei$ts. There c@n be but these are a min0rity because @gain, the f0und@ti0n@I principIes 0f @thei$m requires 0ne t0 te@r d0wn what's @r0und it to TRY and upIift itseIf and it NEVER w0rks.
@@IhiriTasogare You say that as if you aren't biased. All you've really done is made the assertion that liberty = neutrality, which you've provided no evidence for. One can say the very same about the way you view this game from an alternative biased lens.
They will probably be layoffs before the game launch as it’s taking them too long to release a game which increase the cost + TLOU multi got cancelled (some devs were hired just because of this project) - not because the game is not performing well.
Here's my theory about this game (and the industry in general right now): Making these games that are set up for failure both wins them virtue points by presenting these studios as progressive/inclusive/whatever, and in addition to that it gives the studios an excuse for the inevitable layoffs. There was a huge boom in the industry during covid, but it wasn't sustainable and these studios were going to have to downsize sooner or later. Having a game like this flop gives them the perfect excuse, because poor performance is a better, more justified reason than "we are a bloated company right now and return to a leaner business model."
@ Might be true but there’s also this reason why they do something like this. Launching New IP is a risky move but it was also used to test their organic consumers. If doing this risky move and players still buy their games - this means they have a very healthy customer base which is more valueable than most people think.
If the game is innovative and good, I will probably play it. I don't expect this from Naughty Dog, however. Their titles have been pretty boiler plate game-play wise for some time now. Nothing to do with the character. Who is not ugly, imo.
its an alternate future where space travel advanced quickly by the 1980s. The game I assume is set in a sci fi 90s or 80s which would explain the cd player
The point of retro-futuristic is it's the future from the viewpoint of a specific time period. Like for example, Steam Punk is a retro-futuristic view from the Victorian era. As a writer, you put yourself into the victorian era, and then imagine what the future is like from that viewpoint. So it would be off to have smart phones in a steam punk setting. This game is clearly an 80s retro futuristic. Hence the reason why CRT tvs are used rather than flat screen TVs. I admit that I'm wrong about CDs not existing, they were invented at that point, but they definitely were not used by regular consumers at that point. Music was primarily played off of tapes during that period.
This game feels like a mandate and not a project. The product placement, the very obvious agenda focused neil druckman style. I'm not saying that these things immediately make a game bad at all but it is becoming a very obvious pattern that games with these things are usually not so great. It's even more baffling when consistently studios will say "boohoo cry about it" or "if you dont like it dont play it" as if they don't care about our opinions. But then when no one plays the game, they call us sexist and racist and bigots for not supporting their unappealing game which they said to not play if it didnt look good to us. That just shouldnt sit right with anyone. Plus the trailer like you said was genuinely so goddamn boring. The pacing, what actually happens (literally nothing) it all just makes me wish this game trailer was just the beginning shot, the end shot with her sword and then the title. But no, they absolutely needed a full trailer to show druckman's fetishes and quirks. It's weird.
Agreed. As you mention, on their own, those things aren't bad, but when those are what's being showcased in their 4.5 min long trailer, then it shows these things are what's being prioritized.
@@SabrPaththey didn’t enforce any agenda. For all we know as a community, the character could be entirely different from how people are preserving to to be. And to judge a characters value entirely by its looks is the most degenerative thing to say
@@balloonb0y677 These assertions are not being made in a vacuum; they are made by recognizing specific and consistent patterns in video game marketing and development. And you shouldn't accuse people of being degenerate when you can't even place objective limits on your own morality.
This is not a game developer's perspective. This is red pill gamer rant from a dude who had a couple industry gigs. I don't even think the game looks good, but you're a whole clown for this.
Can you explain which part of what I promote red pill ideology? I discuss character design, character development, target audience and selling games. Are those not part of game development?
@@SabrPath You determined her sexual preference from her haircut and your pinned comment is a prediction of the game insulting religious values. You made ZERO objective observations that could not have been made by an uneducated viewer. You clearly made this whole video to say you think that game will suck because it's "woke." Just because you're not dumb enough to straight up say that, doesn't mean you're clever enough that people won't notice what you're doing.
It's a game developer that sees what is happening in the game industry and understands where gamers and the customer base are coming from when calling all this stuff out. In case you have forgotten, gaming is a VISUAL medium and has appealing characters and worlds sells. Case and point, any of the successful games from the 1980s to the 2010s.
@@SnipingIsFun Yes, many of them with hardened purposedly covered up nontraditionally attractive female leads. Like Samus in Metroid. You're just upset that for the last 40 years video games video games pandered to your basic and likely misogynistic sensibilities. Now as an adult your safe place asks you to use your brain and rather than try you look for an echo chamber like a coward.
That's disingenuous. If it was for people who "enjoy video games" then they would have designed a character who wouldn't be off-putting. Are you telling me that Asia doesn't enjoy video games? Because that design is not appealing to an Asian market.
@@SabrPath Yup, its for people who enjoy video games. Off-putting is your opinion which happens to fit a narrative people engagement farm off of. And I don't believe your claims about the game not appealing to what you refer to an "Asian market".
@@magneisuemwinterjuice7810 You're saying a lot of buzz words which makes you come across as being disingenuous. We can't have a real conversation if you treat the world as if it's 2 dimensional.
@@magneisuemwinterjuice7810 this guy is pushing his own agenda that ugly characters means corporate corruption. Image how he would feel if he was made the lead of a video games and everyone thought the game industry was gonna crash because how ugly he looks. This guy and community really need to take a look in the mirror and realize that games aren’t about attractive characters, like I could have swore that just the other day that the gaming industry was suffering from the lack of good games…
@@magneisuemwinterjuice7810 You made an opinionated assertion about how some one should enjoy games, pretended it was fact and then proceeded to insult everyone who doesn't agree with your opinion. Pretty pathetic dude.
The trailer looked great to me. Derivative, yeah, but fun. I'll wait for a little actual gameplay, but I'm excited for it. All my friends loved TLOU Part II, most more than Part I, and they think this looks good too. It might no be for YOU, but there are millions of people who will buy it and play it. If you're looking for a T&A game, there are plenty of those on Steam, many for $5-10.
@@SabrPath What makes you think I was talking to you and not one of your followers or other people who watch this video? Yeah, you said you're religious and wouldn't play a game you wouldn't want your kids to see, but you also showed a picture of the actress with hair and makeup and said the character in the game should look more like her and less like a lesbian. What and idiotic thing to say. Who cares if she looks like a lesbian? She's a bounty hunter. Hair gets in the way. A girl in my shop class in jr high got her hair stuck in the rock grinder and almost got it all pulled out. And makeup, alone in space, for a bounty hunter? If anything I'd complain she looks too much like Ripley from that Alien movie when she shaved her head. Maybe she was a lesbian too, but her character had a daughter. You say Nadine from Uncharted is borderline too butch, but I guess she has enough hair to pass as straight. You compare Intergalactic to God of War more than once, but don't complain that Kratos had tattoos and didn't have any hair, instead of having a nice head of hair and no tattoos like Nathan Drake. I don't know where you were in the 80s, but I had CDs and a CD player in 1986. Another dumb comment. I have that Pet Shop Boys CD from 1987. CD players came out in 1982. Use the googles. And don't be so homophobic.
I saw this vid pop up at random and it said here's a response by someone who's also a developer, so I thought we'd get some nice insights. But halfway through your video you are literally just regurgitating whatever you read in whichever comment sections you frequent. "THIS GAME LOOKS LIKE CONCORD" Okay, let me start by saying that this is the stupidest, most uninformed take (not just by you, but anyone parroting this) I have ever heard. Concord isn't the first or only game to have a retro future aesthetic, and as far as I'm concerned it doesn't even show that much in its regular gameplay as the game devolves into boring, samey "team-based shooter" locales as levels. The ONLY reason people are mentioning this is because there's now a slight avenue for comparison, and they're all pretending that somehow Concord's aesthetic design language was the main reason for its failure, and as such they're implying that "this is not what people want" and therefore, the retro-futuristic design will also fail in Intergalactic. The only reason this is happening is because Concord was such a huge failure and it's fresh in everyone's minds, and all the vindictive little trolls want Naughty Dog to fail just as badly with this game because they're sad little basement dwellers. Aside from this minor visual flair comparison these games are nothing alike, and as a developer you should know that and call people out on their bullshit, rather than reinforce it. "THE CHARACTER LOOKS GAY" I don't even wanna expand on this but let's go. A mixed-race woman with a slightly muscular build and a bald head is immediately assumed to be gay. Of course, there's a decent chance she might be, who knows. But even if she is, who gives a shit. "But it's way too in my face! She LOOKS too gay! Look at Bill in TLOU, he doesn't look or act gay, so then it's okay"! Okay, wow. I don't even know where to start here. Gay people are allowed to be gay as long as they don't look or act gay? Cool opinion, guy. "You must adhere to societal norms or you will be treated as an outcast". So you're magnanimous enough to "allow" them to be different, as long as they don't show it and therefore bother you with it? Jesus effin' christ on a stick my dude. Think things through before you say them out loud. Plus, we don't even know for sure yet that she's gay! She might shave her head because...she's in space? Maybe long hair is annoying in zero-G. Or maybe because she's used to wearing helmets? Or maybe because she's a bounty-hunter and she doesn't want her hair to be liability? Or maybe because she's trying to alter her looks so she isn't as recognizable as she used to be? Or maybe just because she likes the way it looks? There could be so many reasons. But hey, she's somewhat muscular too! Man, what an ODD choice to make a solo bounty hunter a little buff so she actually looks like she could...hold her own? Beat someone up? Have the athletic ability to pull off whatever crazy moves I'm sure we'll be making in that game, with the giant laser-sword and all? But you don't wanna oversexualize her either, you say. She's not supposed to look like a character from Stellar Blade or DOA. So she's just allowed to look like a "normal" cis woman, then. You definitely don't want her to show too much skin or have huge breasts, or be too artificially good-looking, but god forbid a woman cuts her hair and has a tiny amount of muscle. That's way over the line in the other direction, bub! The people who come up with this stuff (not you) and the people who spread it (you) should be ashamed of themselves. Be honest; you're all just in it for the youtube clicks, the upvotes, the likes, the viral clips. It's not because you actually give a shit, because obviously you're giving this ZERO original thought and you're just regurgitating whatever the trolls are saying, and you're ADDING to the problem by spreading these absolutely uninformed baseless opinions around. All because a character might be gay and isn't as hot (or, sorry, "Normal looking") as you'd like them to be, y'all want a development studio that's been around for DECADES to fail and disappear, getting tens or hundreds of people fired in the process. What is wrong with you people? Can you at least wait until the game is out (or multiple gameplay segments are at least released) so you know what it's about, how it feels, how it plays, et cetera? Nah, gotta ride that OUTRAGE train, huh? And saying that "studios should just create content for the largest common denominator" is such an anti-creative statement. Such an anti-progressive statement. Such an anti-innovative statement. Because specific content or specific genres have been created for decades for (let's be honest) mostly a male dominated space. How is that ever gonna change if studios don't also change their approach and make stuff that's gonna reach across the aisle to BROADEN that audience? But all these sad lonely dweebs are intent on stopping that because gaming is for (straight) men and (straight) men only. No wahmens here! No gays, and preferably no people of color too, right? You people disgust me. I'm almost ashamed to be a gamer when this type of discourse is dominating the web. Grow the fuck up and learn to empathize with people (or characters in stories) that aren't a carbon copy of you. We're all human; 99% of our experiences WILL still match up if you don't get hung up about someone's sexual preferences or their freedom to dress and look however the fuck they want. Also; maybe, JUST maybe, we can wait for the next few trailers or gameplay demo's to drop before we just start pulling a laundry list of assumptions out of our ass? That might work.
I know my audio in this video is distorted, so I apologize that my message might have been heard to retrieve, but a lot of your points aren't even what I said. I didn't say the game looked like Concord, I said people are comparing it to it. You mention her race, what does her race have anything to do with what I said? I never mentioned anything about her race. And my major point I was making about her appearance, which you didn't address, is the over-the-top stereo type. I explain in the video when stereo types work, and in this game, it wont work for how big this project and how many sales they will need to make world-wide. You say I'm just copying points from comments sections or whatever, but I already explained in this video that I have gone through layoffs. I have lived the experience of working at a studio and been part of the lay offs. When management is more focused on making a product for a social message rather than making a product that sells, then people at the bottom, like myself, are the ones who get hurt by the results, and management walks away with a golden parachute and gets hired at the next AAA studio. The gameplay doesn't matter, this is about making a game that's marketable, so that it will sell world-wide, including in Asia which will reject a character like this one because Asia does not find these types of stereo types as appealing. So you missed two major things I said. Stereo types and lay offs due to lack of sales. If you walk away with anything from this video, those are the two points I want to make. Stereo types like this will not sell a game, and games this big need to make sales otherwise they will lead to layoffs.
@@SabrPath Yeah not all points (like her race) were mentioned by you, but they all fit within the general talking points that are levied by "critics" and comment sections alike, hence my response including those is not only aimed at you but at the internet discourse at large. She looks too much like a stereotype you say (even though it still isn't confirmed what her sexuality actually is), but let's take your example of 'oversexualized' characters like Eve from Stellar Blade or the girls from DOA. Are you gonna argue that they don't look like stereotypes? I know it's a stereotype on the opposite end of the spectrum, but that's my point. Stereotypes are apparently fine as long as horny male gamers can get their rocks off on them, but they're not fine if they imply that a character might share a bed with someone of the same sex? Because then it's "bad character design"? And then we roll into your argument about how for example Bill doesn't look or act gay, so that's a "good example" of how to do gay characters. I'm not even gonna launch into the fact that in a ton of LGBTQ subcultures, their overt 'self-expression' is a direct consequence of decades and centuries of oppression, which makes arguing for these characters to either dress or act 'normal' even worse because it reinforces the notion that these people SHOULD suppress themselves and should just 'fit in with the rest of us'. Regarding Concord; you did not specifically mention that it's just the aesthetics of Concord, but the only reason Concord is being mentioned everywhere immediately after the reveal trailer dropped is that people have noticed a similarity between the retro-futuristic design choices and the fact that they're hoping that this will be another huge AAA failure. That's it, really, because the style and genre of the games, the development studios, the budgets, the marketing, the gameplay, the revenue model, are all massively different. And hey; if it turns out Intergalactic IS going to be a bland team-based hero shooter live-service game then I'll revise my opinion and agree with people that there's definitely some comparison with Concord, but as it stands it doesn't seem like that will be the case, and in any case we don't know enough about Intergalactic to make any kind of informed guesses about the gameplay. I'm sorry to hear you're one of the nigh 10.000 devs caught up in lay-offs. That does really suck. But that doesn't mean you should stifle industry progression by spreading the same sexist (and even though you did not mention it, for a lot of other people also definitely racist) preconceived notions. 'Cuz there's two ways to fight the system. You could argue devs should only make by-the-number games that largely exclusively cater to very specific groups with very specific characters and story-beats so their games will sell well and there will be less lay-offs. But you could also argue AGAINST the trolls who manage to influence public opinion in such a negative way by highlighting "current", often politically motivated "issues" (like female/gay/PoC representation) and help a studio that's (I think) largely earned our trust in terms of delivering fantastic narrative driven games with generationally exceptional graphics on the past three console generations with the Uncharted and TLOU series. Just abiding by the most negative feedback loops the internet has to offer isn't gonna help sell more games. It's going to reinforce negative stereotypes, it reinforces knee-jerk reactions fueled with manufactured outrage, and if the outrage gets big enough it's gonna get people laid off just like you were. That can't be what you want, right? That's just how it works with these algorithm bubbles. How many people haven't even seen the trailer, but will have seen a bunch of videos or thumbnails by youtube/IG/TikTok creators calling out Naughty Dog's new "woke failure" and how "they're just cramming these characters down our throats" and how the entire studio should fail and close? And they'll just regurgitate this bullshit within their own friend-circles and communities. The unfortunate ubiquitous nature of these online talking heads and the algorithmic trappings of whatever platform you're on often create a situation where people don't form their OWN opinions; they just gather online talking points like they're collecting pokemon cards without giving it any second thought. You could also be a voice of reason; reminding people that you shouldn't judge people or characters based on their looks. That empathizing with a character isn't impossible if they have a different set of genitals or like sharing the bed with someone of the same gender. You could be reminding people they shouldn't form opinions without knowing anything about the game. Telling them there's no real comparison between Concord and Intergalactic (aside from some design flair) so far. Showcasing how Naughty Dog usually makes games' narratives revolve around character-driven human experiences we should all mostly be able to relate to. Now I don't think we should give Naughty Dog a cart blanche either and not be critical of anything they make at all - but maybe (like I said in my initial comment) we can wait it out until we ACTUALLY know what the story is, who the character is, what the gameplay looks like.
@@SnipingIsFun Something being a VISUAL medium doesn't mean that said visuals need to turn you on or fall within your subjective expectations of what a character within that medium looks like. Books are a descriptive medium, and so you'll imagine the "visuals". But you'll read through stories that may have lead characters that look nothing like you, or that aren't conventionally attractive (e.g. curly haired hobbits with large hairy feet). Just because something CAN speak directly to your most base desires or expectations doesn't mean that it should. It also doesn't mean that you yourself shouldn't broaden your horizons and learn to look past a surface appearance of something or someone. There's nothing that says a game can't still be great if a main character doesn't look like whatever big titty anime GF template (or whatever) is your current obsession.
What does that have to do with anything? If I used a picture of her without makeup, it wouldn't make her torso magically more masculine like what they did to her in the game.
@@SabrPath Her torso isn't more masculine, if you look at other pictures of her you can tell her shoulders are the same width as in the game, the only difference is what she is wearing, black clothes can make things look shrunken or slimmer, and that's exactly what's happening with the black blazer she is wearing.
It looks fine. The game just has to be fun. It looks cool, I think you're working overtime to BS about little crap that doesn't matter. Games now are like movies... you can't expect every trailer to feel the same, some will be more horror, some more sci-fi, basically, trailers are more varied now and are allowed to have different tones. As for the bald look who cares? I'm not thinking about her hair bruv... she's hot, if she's purple, blue, mohawked, or even half burnt... still looks good to me. You guys are so weird with your specific brand of sexuality. Why are you pretending the majority of people agree with your bigoted views? Is this gal my first choice, nope, but she isn't ugly. Y'all don't even like the game? Why are you going out of your way to try to hate something you have no interest in playing? Since it's a new IP, it's not race-bending, not race-switching, it's basically its own thing. Yet, like some kind of ex-girlfriend, you're going all out of your way to... take a dump on their lawn. It's weird... bruv. It's like you're driving two cities over to go pick on some kid you've never met. You're being a bully, for views... I guess, about a game that isn't interesting to what you'd not play anyway. Oh well... guess I'll go watch some more slop.. of hate videos. You guys are very strange folks, it's like you're addicted to hate.
Did you watch my video? I didn't say anything about her race. And what makes you think I wouldn't have played a sci-fi action game? I mention in the video that I've played Naught Dog's other games. And I want you to be honest and remove your personal preferences to formulate an opinion on what will happen. My main point in this video is that the main character's design is subversive and Naughty Dog will lead to layoffs if the game doesn't sell well. Do you honestly think this design will result to good sales numbers? Not just in the united states, but in Japan, in China and other Asian countries. I'm not saying do YOU like the design. I'm saying, do you honestly think the majority of people who play action games will be fine with the design?
@@SabrPath I did watch your video in full, already, twice even. I watched some of your other videos before I got to this one. So yeah... I got a good idea of what kind of content you do and fearmonger about. I don't think it's going to be the next Mass Effect, but I also don't think it's just terrible either just because the gal isn't pale. This is what you're saying basically, she doesn't fit a demographic thus she doesn't have mass appeal. You and I both know that white chars usually have mass appeal. That's just the nature of the world, not stressing over it, but it is what it is. If they are going in this direction with the character design, then they already kind of know it's going to be limited in appeal. Black people aren't popular everywhere, even if they are light-skinned... So it's interesting, to say the least. So I'm curious about what they'll do to bridge that gap. Is this game multiplayer? Are there going to be more characters? I don't know, so I'm eager to find out. It's hard to judge on just a teaser trailer that gives us pretty much nothing to go on, other than _just cool vibes._ I don't really like this type of game anymore, but I would've totally 10 years ago! More into RPGs now personally... but I don't have anything against the design at all. I think it looks cool and unlike a lot of the same old slop. As I've gamed... I've seen designs from the past 5 years that wouldn't have worked 15 years ago, that are working today. LOL, so I'm not all about that hate nonsense. I'm more about the writing and they can make ideas appealing through the terms, presentation, and of course the plot. But Naughty Dog has a pretty good writing pedigree. If they can tactfully introduce ideas and maybe not overdo it with _some_ of the messaging, it just might work. I like the effort of new ideas and IPs. I hate old boring, ideas that are just slightly dressed up to look new. This looks like it has some potential, but it'll most likely just be like everything else. So the game is at least going to do, pretty ok. But then again, lots of folks are making a lot of assumptions on just basically.... nothing. The attention this game is getting doesn't make any sense to me. It's like people are all gathered around a wet turd, and you are all trying to decide how it'll taste in 8 months without even knowing anything about how it got there and where it'll go. Anyway, have fun... being hateful and panicked... I just don't get this new age of rage. Do you guys just want the same... ole... stuff... again? Like huh? Do you wanna be stuck with just the same ideas and game loops? When there are so many, games coming out. You choose to focus on this one and try to kill it before it even does anything. lLol.. it's so strange. You want new, you want exciting but when it shows up! You kick it back down the hill. lol, wow Anyway, take care!
Games are still a VISUAL medium. Appealing characters sell, whether male or female. Characters like Mai Shiranui, Yuna, Chun-Li, Cammy White, Mileena, Rayne, Jade, Alyx, and Nina Williams have stood the test of time.
@@SnipingIsFun You've said nothing, basically just a bit ball of nothing. There are so *many* video games. That means you will see a video that will not appeal to you. Just like I'm sure _you don't see every movie that comes out_ because *some* movies don't appeal to you. I love horror movies, but as I've gotten older, not just any sort of horror movie will do now. I have favorites, types, and things I prefer in my movies. I don't go out of my way to say, *THIS IS NOT THE WAY YOU DO IT!* then proceed to make a hate video about it... that would be silly. You and I both know, full well... that female characters have a different pressure placed upon them. I have never heard folks be like, _"That male is not rugged enough, he's too handsome, and blah blah blah"_ I can remember some fantasy character from waaaaay back who was too sexy looking and dudes freaked out. That's about it, as it's not really a thing for guys. Here with, Intergalactic: The Heretic Prophet
Yeah, so despite not knowing anything about gameplay and being handed a visually stunning reveal, you immediately assume it'll be bad because the retro space bounty hunter isn't hyper feminine. You need to stop looking at the past and assuming things and try to give this an honest chance.
Concord failed because no one liked the character designs. No one wanted to play it when it was a free open beta. No one cared that it had good gameplay. The visuals are literally the first thing people will base their opinion on. If the game doesn't visually appeal to people, then it will fail convince customers to give the game a chance and lead to more layoffs.
@@SabrPath This game has a total of 2 shown characters, neither being exactly bad design wise aside from maybe fitting a stereotype depending on if this characters sexuality is actually what you assume it is, everything else about the game is visually stunning, personally I had never heard of concord until after its shutdown, the reason concord dramatically failed is a lack of advertisement, no big developer name, and the reason every hero shooter fails; nobody wants to move from overwatch to a no name game that yeah, doesn't look overly appealing, Intergalactic doesn't have those issues to get past though, and if the gameplay and story are good it'll reflect that with numbers, I gurantee it.
@GibShal I've done lots of videos explaining why Concord failed and lack of advertisements is not it. They had lots of social media ads and it was on the front of the Playstation store. Everyone scrolled passed the ads because the visuals looked ugly. As for your point that no one wants to move from Overwatch, fans of that game have been unhappy with Overwatch 2 for a long time. This is why they are jumping ship to go to Marvel Rivals
@@SabrPath Untrue about overwatch, every hero shooter that has released has failed, and marvel rivals wouldn't be different at all if it wasn't for the IP.
@GibShal See my other video about Marvel Rivals. Marvel has games that have failed in recent years despite their IP. The IP alone is not enough to save a bad game.
I'm aware there is audio distortion in my voice. This is due to a software issue which I have resolved. Future videos will no longer have this issue. Thanks for you patience.
Remember the Concord teaser? The vibes here are so similar..
At the very least, the main difference is that Concord felt like it was a Guardians of the Galaxy knock off and this game isn't knocking off one thing, but just a mix of a bunch of 80s anime references. So it's slight difference, but yes I agree.
@@SabrPathsure the theme and environment looks only similar, but that doesn’t mean the games will be the same let alone even comparable. Concord if a fps pvp hero shooter online game. Intergalactic is going to have a huge over arching story in its potential trilogy and whole story. So no, these games are actually gone be entirely different games as concord hardly even lived up to its teaser trailer art style and intergalactic will go far more in-depth in the space travel bounty hunter game
What I know is that it's not for me.
What would Naughty Dog have to do to make this game for you?
Naughty Dog has not been doing nearly as well as western game journalists would want you to believe. Part 2 did not sell nearly as well as Part 1, and the constant remasters of those games is annoying people and I would assume they've been selling like ass too. This new game just makes it obvious that Druckmann just wants to self-immolate and take as many people working at Naughty Dog down with him. Allah willing, Druckman will be fired and replaced with someone who actually wants to bring Naughty Dog back to the era where they actually made fun games like Jak and Daxter.
Salaam alaikum. I think Druckman got a taste of Hollywood from working on the HBO series and he's using this as his portfolio piece to help him transition from video games to movies. He gave us a 4.5 min video that only gave us "vibes"
Watched all the way through and damn this video was good. Congrats on the baby, that will be me in 2 months.
Thanks for the support! I'm blessed to have another child. Congrats to your upcoming baby!
You said what I was feeling about the trailer
My main problem with the trailer is not the main character. People remember the first Last of Us teaser? Damn! It was exciting, it was promising, and filled people with hype. This is the teaser for the first Naughty Dog new IP in more than 10 years, and it is extremely unimaginative (a fricking crime for Naugty Dog) from a studio now directed by an asshole were the only gameplay teased looks extremely generic, safe and so predictable. And to the people who dont understand why people complain about the main character... Have you been living under a rock the last ten years? How can people fail to understand the vast mayority of "gamers" are adult, heterosexual males who had been complaining for every forced change in their games and has been called every "phobe" variation in return? You even now have channels with hundred of thousands of followers on people just calling games woke and gay! The gaming industry is so ffar from what once were... well , I just wish you the best with Beware Tomorrow, I'll be checking it out!
I completely agree with your point about The Last of Us. It had world building, character building and gave an idea of what the gameplay was. Intergalactic's trailer is twice as long and does a far worse job at all of that. And thanks for the support!
Salam Bro, Happy to see fellow muslim game developers! Keep up the good work. And Mabrook for the little one!
Walaikum salaam. Thanks for the support, brother!
They're forcing an audience. And they've been trying for the longest time.
Agreed. Just as that actress said, they don't want you to accept, they want you to "embrace"
A few problems I have with the trailer is the description says thousands of years int he future yet somehow we are mixing in current universal companies/lore which takes me out, and also reading the description, it says I will be stuck on a planet which means I will not get to cruise space which is what the trailer shows me
The product placement definitely takes me out as well. Back when I was a little kid, it was cool seeing a Pizza Hut logo in the snow level of the Ninja Turtles game on NES. It made it feel like it was in our world. But this trailer throws so many logos in our face in such a short time frame, that it makes it feel like they're all sponsored ads.
Right? Even Cup Noodle in FFXV was okay because it was just goofy. This is sad. @@SabrPath
Genuinely, can anyone give me a valid reason for all this hate...?
I see a teaser for retro scifi game, far too early for anyone to be giving it this kinda hate?
If your only issue is "ugly woman" then dont even waste your energy responding 😭
Did you watch my video at all?
@@SabrPath
Yeah right until you started discussing the characters look?
I fail to see how thats relevant to a game being good?
Not to mention saying you know their sexuality because of her look
Youre very much the person i dont want to hear from here 🤷
I want valid reasons this game looks bad
Not "ugly woman"
People don't want to play as someone who's ugly. Simple as. It's called "advertising." Very basic stuff. Good-looking people sell more products than ugly people. Do you need a math lesson while we're at it? 1+1=2. Just as simple. @@Digi-Dev
@@Digi-Dev You didn't watch the whole video. There is nothing more to say. You sound like a liberal. I understand that there are a lot of conservatives that only care about sexulization of women and are dishonest about it (which is of course 100% wrong) but you have to understand that there are more nuanced perspectives out there. This is one of them. Jumping on a hate bandwagon isn't doing anyone any good.
@@MaximumPayine
I did try watching the video again, but I honestly couldn't get through it
Really appreciate the assumptions about me tho! Have a wonderful day
wait what? BROKEN MOON? isn't that UBISOFT'S LOGO???
I think you're onto something!
Salam brother, it’s a nice breakdown, thank you for the insight.
Walaikum salaam. Thanks for the support!
@@SabrPathalso congratulations for the birth of your child!
@@BenyMaulana Thanks! I'm blessed
80s retro futurism sci-fi from ND... This for me!!!
Hope you enjoy it
After recording this video, I learned that Neil Druckman has stated that the game will be about a fictional religion and that the story will be about "what happens when you put your faith in different institutions." I'm very certain this game will mock religion in general. I have never seen main stream media portray fictional religions in a positive light, especially in a sci-fi setting. The religion is always a cult. A recent example is the 2021 Guardians of the Galaxy game. I think the trope that religions are over-controlling and all being cults is over-done and void of creativity.
There is nothing Neil Druckman can say about religion that will be fresh or unique. I'm sure it will be like all the other times Hollywood types try to say anything about it.
"...what happens when you put faith in different institutions" 🙄 get over yourself bro
Except for Paul Schrader of course. His work isn't necessarily positive about religion, but it's way way WAY more interesting than the typical mainstream "commentary."
Brother, this is how most atheists think. I know that sounds like a generalization but unfortunately, it the truth because atheism requires it's "followers" to degrade religion because atheism has nothing to offer; either morally, intellectually, or spiritually. It's a basic case of trying to uplift itself by putting down others. It's all synthetic fluff. This was the case even with Dead Space where the head writer, Warren Ellis, portrayed Unitology as a cult. He also wrote for the Netflix Castlevania animated series, a series mind you that has HEAVY thematic foundations in religion and requires that to be taken in a positive note, yet he portrays it as evil and without nuance. Again, you can't expect ANY of these big name game developers to portray religion in a positive way because this is what atheism is a very nihilitic way of looking at the world.
BTW, I'm not saying that there can't be respectful atheists. There can be but these are a minority because again, the foundational principles of atheism requires one to tear down what's around it to TRY and uplift itself and it NEVER works.
So going to say here that I'm not attempting to undermine any of your beliefs and ideals- nor that I feel anything I say should sway your over all faith.
However, I will say that be definition all religions are cults and for the modern day, most are in fact overly controlling. The reason so many religions in games appear this way in said games is because for most- this is what they feel like regardless of where you go or who you deal with. Within the whole of those collective religious groups there are smaller pockets of people who have more human aligned reasoning and that reasoning tends to allow them on a person level to not be so controlling. But when people step back and look at the larger picture you can often see many, many examples of this not being true to the point that the bulk affect general society in such a way that it leaves a bad taste.
There is also the understanding that when it comes to story line, you have one of two things within human history to manifest absolute and blind obedience, religion and or authoritarianism/dictatorships. So more often than not it will be the process that adds the detail to the story not the base line concept. Akin to having a simple sugar cookie. Its simple, the base ingredients are there, the taste is expect but its the process of how its made and the quality of things that often brings out a unique flavor and experience.
When I saw this trailer, I didn't get the feeling of "oh this person is this or that." The only way you get that idea is if you allow your personal biases to take over and assume those details. Now, given the history of things- sure the character could very, very well come off that way for one reason or another. But, if you're looking in the background you can see a picture where she had at some point in time more hair, though it appeared more fro like. Its not uncommon for people of color to just cut their hair off completely for one reason or another. I've done it, plenty of other people have done it, gender/identity not being a point of concern.
What I saw in the trailer was a woman- who was like Riply from Alien 3. I personally don't care about the CD's in the 80's astatic, more and more of the new generations won't know what a cassette-tape is and thus putting it into the game would not invoke those similar feelings of nostalgia that it did for people of our generation. I think too many people currently have been heavily jaded by the gaming industry but also by society as a whole and thus are often inclined to jump the gun on their presumptions of what something is going to be when they first see the reveal.
As a whole, I found your video informative and interesting, but I have really only more push back and that's with the idea of "embracing" something. I absolutely can and will agree that there are constructive ways to do so. But the end goal is over all universal- everyone just wants to be accepted for who they are and for people to just treat them as normal/human. The idea is no different then when someone has religion that is different from those around them- yet they are not trying to push their faith upon someone else. You just want to be able to perhaps show your faith, wear your attire of your faith, symbols and just still be treated normal. This is what accepting and embracing someone else's ideas and culture can be.
I will also say that should this game in any true way push the certain ideologies and or concepts in an unnatural or uninteresting way then yes- NaughtyDog absolutely executed on this idea and I was wrong. I have no problems admitting to that. But as it stands with so little to actually go off of in regards to the game, gameplay and story I think its a bit unreasonable to allow our selves to give into that jaded history- so far NaughtyDog has not given us bad games. They have all been games we enjoy and I think that's important.
Now if the game itself is just inherently against your faith or you feel there's too many things against your faith- that's fine. I can understand where you're coming from and that's fair! But I feel the arguments being made right now are too heavily biased to be properly informed.
Looks like my c0mment was deIeted by Tr@shtube. Typical. I'll p0st it ag@in.
Br0ther, this is h0w m0st @theists think. I kn0w that s0unds Iike a gener@Iiz@ti0n but unf0rtun@teIy, it the truth because @thei$m requires it's "f0II0wers" t0 degr@de reIigi0n because @theism has n0thing to 0ffer; either m0raIIy, inteIIectuaIIy, 0r spiritu@IIy. It's a b@sic case 0f trying t0 upIift itseIf by putting d0wn 0thers. It's @II synthetic fIuff. This w@s the c@se even with De@d Sp@ce where the head writer, W@rren EIIis, p0rtr@yed Unit0I0gy as a cuIt. He aIs0 wr0te for the NetfIix C@stIevania @nim@ted series, @ series mind y0u that has HE@VY thematic f0und@ti0ns in reIigi0n @nd requires that to be taken in a p0sitive n0te, yet he p0rtrays it as eviI and with0ut nuance. Again, y0u can't expect ANY 0f these big name g@me deveI0pers t0 p0rtr@y reIigi0n in a p0sitive w@y because this is wh@t @theism is @ very nihiIitic w@y 0f I00king @t the w0rId. BTW, I'm n0t s@ying th@t there c@n't be respectful @thei$ts. There c@n be but these are a min0rity because @gain, the f0und@ti0n@I principIes 0f @thei$m requires 0ne t0 te@r d0wn what's @r0und it to TRY and upIift itseIf and it NEVER w0rks.
@@IhiriTasogare You say that as if you aren't biased. All you've really done is made the assertion that liberty = neutrality, which you've provided no evidence for. One can say the very same about the way you view this game from an alternative biased lens.
Cd player existed in the 80s, what did you mean by miss the memo?
CDs existed but audio tapes were the primary format that most people used.
Cassettes were more prominent
Will Naughty Dog risk leading to layoffs by making this game? Let me know in the comments!
They will probably be layoffs before the game launch as it’s taking them too long to release a game which increase the cost + TLOU multi got cancelled (some devs were hired just because of this project) - not because the game is not performing well.
Here's my theory about this game (and the industry in general right now):
Making these games that are set up for failure both wins them virtue points by presenting these studios as progressive/inclusive/whatever, and in addition to that it gives the studios an excuse for the inevitable layoffs. There was a huge boom in the industry during covid, but it wasn't sustainable and these studios were going to have to downsize sooner or later. Having a game like this flop gives them the perfect excuse, because poor performance is a better, more justified reason than "we are a bloated company right now and return to a leaner business model."
@ Might be true but there’s also this reason why they do something like this. Launching New IP is a risky move but it was also used to test their organic consumers. If doing this risky move and players still buy their games - this means they have a very healthy customer base which is more valueable than most people think.
If the game is innovative and good, I will probably play it. I don't expect this from Naughty Dog, however. Their titles have been pretty boiler plate game-play wise for some time now.
Nothing to do with the character. Who is not ugly, imo.
Naughty Dog has lost its mind since Neil Druckmann took over
its an alternate future where space travel advanced quickly by the 1980s. The game I assume is set in a sci fi 90s or 80s which would explain the cd player
The point of retro-futuristic is it's the future from the viewpoint of a specific time period. Like for example, Steam Punk is a retro-futuristic view from the Victorian era. As a writer, you put yourself into the victorian era, and then imagine what the future is like from that viewpoint. So it would be off to have smart phones in a steam punk setting. This game is clearly an 80s retro futuristic. Hence the reason why CRT tvs are used rather than flat screen TVs. I admit that I'm wrong about CDs not existing, they were invented at that point, but they definitely were not used by regular consumers at that point. Music was primarily played off of tapes during that period.
@@SabrPath It's likely taken and supposed to reference Akira which has a similar style CD player.
Thank you man found another brother good takes
Thanks for the support.
This game feels like a mandate and not a project. The product placement, the very obvious agenda focused neil druckman style. I'm not saying that these things immediately make a game bad at all but it is becoming a very obvious pattern that games with these things are usually not so great.
It's even more baffling when consistently studios will say "boohoo cry about it" or "if you dont like it dont play it" as if they don't care about our opinions. But then when no one plays the game, they call us sexist and racist and bigots for not supporting their unappealing game which they said to not play if it didnt look good to us. That just shouldnt sit right with anyone.
Plus the trailer like you said was genuinely so goddamn boring. The pacing, what actually happens (literally nothing) it all just makes me wish this game trailer was just the beginning shot, the end shot with her sword and then the title. But no, they absolutely needed a full trailer to show druckman's fetishes and quirks. It's weird.
Agreed. As you mention, on their own, those things aren't bad, but when those are what's being showcased in their 4.5 min long trailer, then it shows these things are what's being prioritized.
@@SabrPaththey didn’t enforce any agenda. For all we know as a community, the character could be entirely different from how people are preserving to to be. And to judge a characters value entirely by its looks is the most degenerative thing to say
@@balloonb0y677 These assertions are not being made in a vacuum; they are made by recognizing specific and consistent patterns in video game marketing and development. And you shouldn't accuse people of being degenerate when you can't even place objective limits on your own morality.
@@balloonb0y677 Given it is Naughty Dog and Neil Druckmann I doubt it
This is not a game developer's perspective. This is red pill gamer rant from a dude who had a couple industry gigs. I don't even think the game looks good, but you're a whole clown for this.
Can you explain which part of what I promote red pill ideology? I discuss character design, character development, target audience and selling games. Are those not part of game development?
@@SabrPath You determined her sexual preference from her haircut and your pinned comment is a prediction of the game insulting religious values. You made ZERO objective observations that could not have been made by an uneducated viewer. You clearly made this whole video to say you think that game will suck because it's "woke." Just because you're not dumb enough to straight up say that, doesn't mean you're clever enough that people won't notice what you're doing.
It's a game developer that sees what is happening in the game industry and understands where gamers and the customer base are coming from when calling all this stuff out.
In case you have forgotten, gaming is a VISUAL medium and has appealing characters and worlds sells.
Case and point, any of the successful games from the 1980s to the 2010s.
@@SnipingIsFun Yes, many of them with hardened purposedly covered up nontraditionally attractive female leads. Like Samus in Metroid. You're just upset that for the last 40 years video games video games pandered to your basic and likely misogynistic sensibilities.
Now as an adult your safe place asks you to use your brain and rather than try you look for an echo chamber like a coward.
It is for me.
I'm happy for you.
and you didnt use a picture of Tati when shes bald because Tati Gabrielle has been bald SEVERAL TIMES. So you really tried to skew reality here.
Doesn't make the character appealing regardless
Its for people who enjoy video games and not for people who enjoy crying about politics and culture wars.
That's disingenuous. If it was for people who "enjoy video games" then they would have designed a character who wouldn't be off-putting. Are you telling me that Asia doesn't enjoy video games? Because that design is not appealing to an Asian market.
@@SabrPath Yup, its for people who enjoy video games. Off-putting is your opinion which happens to fit a narrative people engagement farm off of. And I don't believe your claims about the game not appealing to what you refer to an "Asian market".
@@magneisuemwinterjuice7810 You're saying a lot of buzz words which makes you come across as being disingenuous. We can't have a real conversation if you treat the world as if it's 2 dimensional.
@@magneisuemwinterjuice7810 this guy is pushing his own agenda that ugly characters means corporate corruption. Image how he would feel if he was made the lead of a video games and everyone thought the game industry was gonna crash because how ugly he looks. This guy and community really need to take a look in the mirror and realize that games aren’t about attractive characters, like I could have swore that just the other day that the gaming industry was suffering from the lack of good games…
@@magneisuemwinterjuice7810
You made an opinionated assertion about how some one should enjoy games, pretended it was fact and then proceeded to insult everyone who doesn't agree with your opinion. Pretty pathetic dude.
The trailer looked great to me. Derivative, yeah, but fun. I'll wait for a little actual gameplay, but I'm excited for it. All my friends loved TLOU Part II, most more than Part I, and they think this looks good too.
It might no be for YOU, but there are millions of people who will buy it and play it.
If you're looking for a T&A game, there are plenty of those on Steam, many for $5-10.
What makes you think I'm looking for T&A? I literally say in the video that I'm against sexualized women in media.
The "modern audience" doesn't exist. Stop trying to force it.
You didn't watch the video, thanatopsis. You could at least be honest instead of strawmanning.
@@SabrPath What makes you think I was talking to you and not one of your followers or other people who watch this video?
Yeah, you said you're religious and wouldn't play a game you wouldn't want your kids to see, but you also showed a picture of the actress with hair and makeup and said the character in the game should look more like her and less like a lesbian. What and idiotic thing to say. Who cares if she looks like a lesbian? She's a bounty hunter. Hair gets in the way. A girl in my shop class in jr high got her hair stuck in the rock grinder and almost got it all pulled out. And makeup, alone in space, for a bounty hunter? If anything I'd complain she looks too much like Ripley from that Alien movie when she shaved her head. Maybe she was a lesbian too, but her character had a daughter.
You say Nadine from Uncharted is borderline too butch, but I guess she has enough hair to pass as straight. You compare Intergalactic to God of War more than once, but don't complain that Kratos had tattoos and didn't have any hair, instead of having a nice head of hair and no tattoos like Nathan Drake.
I don't know where you were in the 80s, but I had CDs and a CD player in 1986. Another dumb comment. I have that Pet Shop Boys CD from 1987. CD players came out in 1982.
Use the googles.
And don't be so homophobic.
@@MaximumPayine I did watch the video. See my other comment.
I saw this vid pop up at random and it said here's a response by someone who's also a developer, so I thought we'd get some nice insights. But halfway through your video you are literally just regurgitating whatever you read in whichever comment sections you frequent.
"THIS GAME LOOKS LIKE CONCORD"
Okay, let me start by saying that this is the stupidest, most uninformed take (not just by you, but anyone parroting this) I have ever heard. Concord isn't the first or only game to have a retro future aesthetic, and as far as I'm concerned it doesn't even show that much in its regular gameplay as the game devolves into boring, samey "team-based shooter" locales as levels.
The ONLY reason people are mentioning this is because there's now a slight avenue for comparison, and they're all pretending that somehow Concord's aesthetic design language was the main reason for its failure, and as such they're implying that "this is not what people want" and therefore, the retro-futuristic design will also fail in Intergalactic. The only reason this is happening is because Concord was such a huge failure and it's fresh in everyone's minds, and all the vindictive little trolls want Naughty Dog to fail just as badly with this game because they're sad little basement dwellers.
Aside from this minor visual flair comparison these games are nothing alike, and as a developer you should know that and call people out on their bullshit, rather than reinforce it.
"THE CHARACTER LOOKS GAY"
I don't even wanna expand on this but let's go. A mixed-race woman with a slightly muscular build and a bald head is immediately assumed to be gay. Of course, there's a decent chance she might be, who knows. But even if she is, who gives a shit.
"But it's way too in my face! She LOOKS too gay! Look at Bill in TLOU, he doesn't look or act gay, so then it's okay"!
Okay, wow. I don't even know where to start here. Gay people are allowed to be gay as long as they don't look or act gay? Cool opinion, guy. "You must adhere to societal norms or you will be treated as an outcast". So you're magnanimous enough to "allow" them to be different, as long as they don't show it and therefore bother you with it? Jesus effin' christ on a stick my dude. Think things through before you say them out loud.
Plus, we don't even know for sure yet that she's gay!
She might shave her head because...she's in space? Maybe long hair is annoying in zero-G. Or maybe because she's used to wearing helmets? Or maybe because she's a bounty-hunter and she doesn't want her hair to be liability? Or maybe because she's trying to alter her looks so she isn't as recognizable as she used to be? Or maybe just because she likes the way it looks?
There could be so many reasons. But hey, she's somewhat muscular too! Man, what an ODD choice to make a solo bounty hunter a little buff so she actually looks like she could...hold her own? Beat someone up? Have the athletic ability to pull off whatever crazy moves I'm sure we'll be making in that game, with the giant laser-sword and all?
But you don't wanna oversexualize her either, you say. She's not supposed to look like a character from Stellar Blade or DOA. So she's just allowed to look like a "normal" cis woman, then. You definitely don't want her to show too much skin or have huge breasts, or be too artificially good-looking, but god forbid a woman cuts her hair and has a tiny amount of muscle. That's way over the line in the other direction, bub!
The people who come up with this stuff (not you) and the people who spread it (you) should be ashamed of themselves.
Be honest; you're all just in it for the youtube clicks, the upvotes, the likes, the viral clips. It's not because you actually give a shit, because obviously you're giving this ZERO original thought and you're just regurgitating whatever the trolls are saying, and you're ADDING to the problem by spreading these absolutely uninformed baseless opinions around.
All because a character might be gay and isn't as hot (or, sorry, "Normal looking") as you'd like them to be, y'all want a development studio that's been around for DECADES to fail and disappear, getting tens or hundreds of people fired in the process. What is wrong with you people?
Can you at least wait until the game is out (or multiple gameplay segments are at least released) so you know what it's about, how it feels, how it plays, et cetera?
Nah, gotta ride that OUTRAGE train, huh? And saying that "studios should just create content for the largest common denominator" is such an anti-creative statement. Such an anti-progressive statement. Such an anti-innovative statement.
Because specific content or specific genres have been created for decades for (let's be honest) mostly a male dominated space. How is that ever gonna change if studios don't also change their approach and make stuff that's gonna reach across the aisle to BROADEN that audience?
But all these sad lonely dweebs are intent on stopping that because gaming is for (straight) men and (straight) men only. No wahmens here! No gays, and preferably no people of color too, right?
You people disgust me. I'm almost ashamed to be a gamer when this type of discourse is dominating the web. Grow the fuck up and learn to empathize with people (or characters in stories) that aren't a carbon copy of you. We're all human; 99% of our experiences WILL still match up if you don't get hung up about someone's sexual preferences or their freedom to dress and look however the fuck they want.
Also; maybe, JUST maybe, we can wait for the next few trailers or gameplay demo's to drop before we just start pulling a laundry list of assumptions out of our ass? That might work.
I know my audio in this video is distorted, so I apologize that my message might have been heard to retrieve, but a lot of your points aren't even what I said. I didn't say the game looked like Concord, I said people are comparing it to it. You mention her race, what does her race have anything to do with what I said? I never mentioned anything about her race. And my major point I was making about her appearance, which you didn't address, is the over-the-top stereo type. I explain in the video when stereo types work, and in this game, it wont work for how big this project and how many sales they will need to make world-wide. You say I'm just copying points from comments sections or whatever, but I already explained in this video that I have gone through layoffs. I have lived the experience of working at a studio and been part of the lay offs. When management is more focused on making a product for a social message rather than making a product that sells, then people at the bottom, like myself, are the ones who get hurt by the results, and management walks away with a golden parachute and gets hired at the next AAA studio. The gameplay doesn't matter, this is about making a game that's marketable, so that it will sell world-wide, including in Asia which will reject a character like this one because Asia does not find these types of stereo types as appealing.
So you missed two major things I said. Stereo types and lay offs due to lack of sales. If you walk away with anything from this video, those are the two points I want to make. Stereo types like this will not sell a game, and games this big need to make sales otherwise they will lead to layoffs.
@@SabrPath Yeah not all points (like her race) were mentioned by you, but they all fit within the general talking points that are levied by "critics" and comment sections alike, hence my response including those is not only aimed at you but at the internet discourse at large.
She looks too much like a stereotype you say (even though it still isn't confirmed what her sexuality actually is), but let's take your example of 'oversexualized' characters like Eve from Stellar Blade or the girls from DOA. Are you gonna argue that they don't look like stereotypes?
I know it's a stereotype on the opposite end of the spectrum, but that's my point. Stereotypes are apparently fine as long as horny male gamers can get their rocks off on them, but they're not fine if they imply that a character might share a bed with someone of the same sex? Because then it's "bad character design"? And then we roll into your argument about how for example Bill doesn't look or act gay, so that's a "good example" of how to do gay characters.
I'm not even gonna launch into the fact that in a ton of LGBTQ subcultures, their overt 'self-expression' is a direct consequence of decades and centuries of oppression, which makes arguing for these characters to either dress or act 'normal' even worse because it reinforces the notion that these people SHOULD suppress themselves and should just 'fit in with the rest of us'.
Regarding Concord; you did not specifically mention that it's just the aesthetics of Concord, but the only reason Concord is being mentioned everywhere immediately after the reveal trailer dropped is that people have noticed a similarity between the retro-futuristic design choices and the fact that they're hoping that this will be another huge AAA failure. That's it, really, because the style and genre of the games, the development studios, the budgets, the marketing, the gameplay, the revenue model, are all massively different.
And hey; if it turns out Intergalactic IS going to be a bland team-based hero shooter live-service game then I'll revise my opinion and agree with people that there's definitely some comparison with Concord, but as it stands it doesn't seem like that will be the case, and in any case we don't know enough about Intergalactic to make any kind of informed guesses about the gameplay.
I'm sorry to hear you're one of the nigh 10.000 devs caught up in lay-offs. That does really suck. But that doesn't mean you should stifle industry progression by spreading the same sexist (and even though you did not mention it, for a lot of other people also definitely racist) preconceived notions.
'Cuz there's two ways to fight the system. You could argue devs should only make by-the-number games that largely exclusively cater to very specific groups with very specific characters and story-beats so their games will sell well and there will be less lay-offs.
But you could also argue AGAINST the trolls who manage to influence public opinion in such a negative way by highlighting "current", often politically motivated "issues" (like female/gay/PoC representation) and help a studio that's (I think) largely earned our trust in terms of delivering fantastic narrative driven games with generationally exceptional graphics on the past three console generations with the Uncharted and TLOU series.
Just abiding by the most negative feedback loops the internet has to offer isn't gonna help sell more games. It's going to reinforce negative stereotypes, it reinforces knee-jerk reactions fueled with manufactured outrage, and if the outrage gets big enough it's gonna get people laid off just like you were. That can't be what you want, right?
That's just how it works with these algorithm bubbles. How many people haven't even seen the trailer, but will have seen a bunch of videos or thumbnails by youtube/IG/TikTok creators calling out Naughty Dog's new "woke failure" and how "they're just cramming these characters down our throats" and how the entire studio should fail and close? And they'll just regurgitate this bullshit within their own friend-circles and communities.
The unfortunate ubiquitous nature of these online talking heads and the algorithmic trappings of whatever platform you're on often create a situation where people don't form their OWN opinions; they just gather online talking points like they're collecting pokemon cards without giving it any second thought.
You could also be a voice of reason; reminding people that you shouldn't judge people or characters based on their looks. That empathizing with a character isn't impossible if they have a different set of genitals or like sharing the bed with someone of the same gender. You could be reminding people they shouldn't form opinions without knowing anything about the game. Telling them there's no real comparison between Concord and Intergalactic (aside from some design flair) so far. Showcasing how Naughty Dog usually makes games' narratives revolve around character-driven human experiences we should all mostly be able to relate to.
Now I don't think we should give Naughty Dog a cart blanche either and not be critical of anything they make at all - but maybe (like I said in my initial comment) we can wait it out until we ACTUALLY know what the story is, who the character is, what the gameplay looks like.
He's right because gaming is a VISUAL medium.
@@SnipingIsFun Something being a VISUAL medium doesn't mean that said visuals need to turn you on or fall within your subjective expectations of what a character within that medium looks like.
Books are a descriptive medium, and so you'll imagine the "visuals". But you'll read through stories that may have lead characters that look nothing like you, or that aren't conventionally attractive (e.g. curly haired hobbits with large hairy feet).
Just because something CAN speak directly to your most base desires or expectations doesn't mean that it should. It also doesn't mean that you yourself shouldn't broaden your horizons and learn to look past a surface appearance of something or someone.
There's nothing that says a game can't still be great if a main character doesn't look like whatever big titty anime GF template (or whatever) is your current obsession.
You used a picture of Tati Gabrielle with makeup to compare to her in game model without makeup.
What does that have to do with anything? If I used a picture of her without makeup, it wouldn't make her torso magically more masculine like what they did to her in the game.
@@SabrPath Her torso isn't more masculine, if you look at other pictures of her you can tell her shoulders are the same width as in the game, the only difference is what she is wearing, black clothes can make things look shrunken or slimmer, and that's exactly what's happening with the black blazer she is wearing.
I'm more of a man than you and this game is made for me
Congratulation Mr. Fresh and Fit.
@@SabrPath The irony is you sound like a dude that watches their shit
Be prepared to buy 1000s of copies to try and help it sell
It looks fine. The game just has to be fun. It looks cool, I think you're working overtime to BS about little crap that doesn't matter. Games now are like movies... you can't expect every trailer to feel the same, some will be more horror, some more sci-fi, basically, trailers are more varied now and are allowed to have different tones. As for the bald look who cares? I'm not thinking about her hair bruv... she's hot, if she's purple, blue, mohawked, or even half burnt... still looks good to me. You guys are so weird with your specific brand of sexuality. Why are you pretending the majority of people agree with your bigoted views? Is this gal my first choice, nope, but she isn't ugly.
Y'all don't even like the game? Why are you going out of your way to try to hate something you have no interest in playing? Since it's a new IP, it's not race-bending, not race-switching, it's basically its own thing. Yet, like some kind of ex-girlfriend, you're going all out of your way to... take a dump on their lawn.
It's weird... bruv. It's like you're driving two cities over to go pick on some kid you've never met.
You're being a bully, for views... I guess, about a game that isn't interesting to what you'd not play anyway.
Oh well... guess I'll go watch some more slop.. of hate videos. You guys are very strange folks, it's like you're addicted to hate.
Did you watch my video? I didn't say anything about her race. And what makes you think I wouldn't have played a sci-fi action game? I mention in the video that I've played Naught Dog's other games. And I want you to be honest and remove your personal preferences to formulate an opinion on what will happen. My main point in this video is that the main character's design is subversive and Naughty Dog will lead to layoffs if the game doesn't sell well. Do you honestly think this design will result to good sales numbers? Not just in the united states, but in Japan, in China and other Asian countries. I'm not saying do YOU like the design. I'm saying, do you honestly think the majority of people who play action games will be fine with the design?
@@SabrPath I did watch your video in full, already, twice even. I watched some of your other videos before I got to this one. So yeah... I got a good idea of what kind of content you do and fearmonger about. I don't think it's going to be the next Mass Effect, but I also don't think it's just terrible either just because the gal isn't pale. This is what you're saying basically, she doesn't fit a demographic thus she doesn't have mass appeal. You and I both know that white chars usually have mass appeal. That's just the nature of the world, not stressing over it, but it is what it is. If they are going in this direction with the character design, then they already kind of know it's going to be limited in appeal. Black people aren't popular everywhere, even if they are light-skinned... So it's interesting, to say the least.
So I'm curious about what they'll do to bridge that gap. Is this game multiplayer? Are there going to be more characters? I don't know, so I'm eager to find out. It's hard to judge on just a teaser trailer that gives us pretty much nothing to go on, other than _just cool vibes._
I don't really like this type of game anymore, but I would've totally 10 years ago! More into RPGs now personally... but I don't have anything against the design at all. I think it looks cool and unlike a lot of the same old slop. As I've gamed... I've seen designs from the past 5 years that wouldn't have worked 15 years ago, that are working today. LOL, so I'm not all about that hate nonsense. I'm more about the writing and they can make ideas appealing through the terms, presentation, and of course the plot. But Naughty Dog has a pretty good writing pedigree.
If they can tactfully introduce ideas and maybe not overdo it with _some_ of the messaging, it just might work. I like the effort of new ideas and IPs. I hate old boring, ideas that are just slightly dressed up to look new. This looks like it has some potential, but it'll most likely just be like everything else.
So the game is at least going to do, pretty ok. But then again, lots of folks are making a lot of assumptions on just basically.... nothing. The attention this game is getting doesn't make any sense to me. It's like people are all gathered around a wet turd, and you are all trying to decide how it'll taste in 8 months without even knowing anything about how it got there and where it'll go.
Anyway, have fun... being hateful and panicked... I just don't get this new age of rage. Do you guys just want the same... ole... stuff... again?
Like huh? Do you wanna be stuck with just the same ideas and game loops? When there are so many, games coming out. You choose to focus on this one and try to kill it before it even does anything. lLol.. it's so strange.
You want new, you want exciting but when it shows up! You kick it back down the hill.
lol, wow
Anyway, take care!
Games are still a VISUAL medium. Appealing characters sell, whether male or female.
Characters like Mai Shiranui, Yuna, Chun-Li, Cammy White, Mileena, Rayne, Jade, Alyx, and Nina Williams have stood the test of time.
@@SnipingIsFun You've said nothing, basically just a bit ball of nothing. There are so *many* video games. That means you will see a video that will not appeal to you. Just like I'm sure _you don't see every movie that comes out_ because *some* movies don't appeal to you. I love horror movies, but as I've gotten older, not just any sort of horror movie will do now. I have favorites, types, and things I prefer in my movies. I don't go out of my way to say, *THIS IS NOT THE WAY YOU DO IT!* then proceed to make a hate video about it... that would be silly.
You and I both know, full well... that female characters have a different pressure placed upon them. I have never heard folks be like, _"That male is not rugged enough, he's too handsome, and blah blah blah"_ I can remember some fantasy character from waaaaay back who was too sexy looking and dudes freaked out. That's about it, as it's not really a thing for guys.
Here with, Intergalactic: The Heretic Prophet
Yeah, so despite not knowing anything about gameplay and being handed a visually stunning reveal, you immediately assume it'll be bad because the retro space bounty hunter isn't hyper feminine. You need to stop looking at the past and assuming things and try to give this an honest chance.
Concord failed because no one liked the character designs. No one wanted to play it when it was a free open beta. No one cared that it had good gameplay. The visuals are literally the first thing people will base their opinion on. If the game doesn't visually appeal to people, then it will fail convince customers to give the game a chance and lead to more layoffs.
@@SabrPath This game has a total of 2 shown characters, neither being exactly bad design wise aside from maybe fitting a stereotype depending on if this characters sexuality is actually what you assume it is, everything else about the game is visually stunning, personally I had never heard of concord until after its shutdown, the reason concord dramatically failed is a lack of advertisement, no big developer name, and the reason every hero shooter fails; nobody wants to move from overwatch to a no name game that yeah, doesn't look overly appealing, Intergalactic doesn't have those issues to get past though, and if the gameplay and story are good it'll reflect that with numbers, I gurantee it.
@GibShal I've done lots of videos explaining why Concord failed and lack of advertisements is not it. They had lots of social media ads and it was on the front of the Playstation store. Everyone scrolled passed the ads because the visuals looked ugly. As for your point that no one wants to move from Overwatch, fans of that game have been unhappy with Overwatch 2 for a long time. This is why they are jumping ship to go to Marvel Rivals
@@SabrPath Untrue about overwatch, every hero shooter that has released has failed, and marvel rivals wouldn't be different at all if it wasn't for the IP.
@GibShal See my other video about Marvel Rivals. Marvel has games that have failed in recent years despite their IP. The IP alone is not enough to save a bad game.