Update: RUclips has fixed the video we believe, the English audio track is now available again. Thanks to everyone who enjoyed Spanish Unboxed while it lasted
There are still dubbed versions in the audio settings, but a few people have said that if you change the audio you can't switch back to English so... probably don't try that
Well so far we don't know why RUclips decided to dub this video into Spanish AFTER it was published then DELETED THE ENGLISH AUDIO!?!?! RUclips support are looking into it but didn't have an immediate solution. For now, seems like you guys are having fun with Spanish Unboxed but hopefully in the future RUclips will fix it and English will be available again
The 480 8gb was released for $250 NEARLY 10 YEARS AGO yet we'll probably still be seeing 8gb cards released for around that price from green team next year....
10gb - 12gb - should be the bare minimum -re VRAM on the entry level GPUs - that they are going to dump MORE 8Gb model(s) at a price premium is truly egregious imo. Great video as always.
Nvidia did a great job of positioning themselves as the luxury brand of GPUs. Some gamers aspire to be the special ones to own the latest Nvidia unobtanium model, same way they trip over themselves to buy the latest flagship phone that is pretty much the same as the phone they already own.
@@AAjax i had to wait a while to get my first smart phone..S23 cuz the 21 and 22 were on that crappy samsung node with throttling and thermals..finally got over to tsmc 4nm(5)..keeping this phone for 5 years at least..24 came did not care..25 is coming..do not care..phone works well..cool thing is i got it on prime day for 600..base model..dont know how people go and buy another one in just a year..im good with this phone..its fast and does everything quickly
@@listX_DE I have 3050 laptop 4 GB 😅 But yeah, I understand, it is ridiculously low. Games from 2020+ play not so great. And now Stalker 2 is the first ever game, where I can't reach a playable framerate. Shame
@@mr_simay big oof. but we'll be glad to know APUs more powerful than a 3050 laptop GPU are gonna release soon, and we'll have power efficiency and no vram problems to look forward to on that front.
covid did not destroyed the pricing. it just made corporations understand better the groupthinking of the consumer and how much evryone is affected by stockholm syndrome
@@TheKwodof course it is. Nvidia has the vast majority of the market. Something like 70-80% of people are stupid when it comes to anything, including spending money on gpus. And this is the same for amd fanboys.
When you can sell the same technology to someone ready to spend much more money than you for their use… You have no chance (Crypto it was, AI model training it is). Until they have what they want, GPU will be very expensive, then we’ll get the crumbs of their ultra powerful AI TPU, which will be a fantastic GPU for almost nothing… Just have to wait 2-3 years…
The "virus" of hyper-tribalism is actually what came out of the pandemic................and gluttonous levels of fucking greed! And if people don't stop the "spend, spend, spend" mindset, many will be utterly priced out of PC's by 2030 IMO. Only "stupid" people truly have money to burn, as in, their lives are bereft of all meaning without having the latest, and stupid to be creating "paper tiger" corps like Nvidia.
There's no sane reason to release a GPU in 2025 with less than 12 GB of VRAM (10 GB being the absolute minimum even for entry level). And let's be frank, let's adress the elephant in the room: the VRAM issue on PC is solely Nvidia's fault. It ain't 2016 anymore, and there's no such thing as a "8 GB performance GPU" [RIP my dear old 1070].
@@tysopiccaso8711Ray Tracing and Frame Generation basically don't work without it. And RT is becoming required in new games. Nobody wants a new product that can't play every game.
I’ll give them 99% of the blame, but Radeon did release the RX 7600 8gb, and if they release another 8gb card this upcoming gen I’ll be pretty disappointed… unless it’s only like 200$ MSRP, then I’ll only he mildly disappointed. But really I feel like even 1080p cards should have 10-12GB these days. The RX 6700 10GB quietly came out years ago and is my new baseline for bandwidth at that pricing. Also somewhat related, I think 1080p needs to start getting replaced by 1440p and 4K. 1440p144hz IPS monitors are like $200 these days, and affordable CPUs and GPUs can drive it easily, especially when not bottlenecked by VRAM. GPU divisions need to stop segmenting so hard and forcing 1080p to still be a thing, adoption could’ve been way faster. And for 4K, 1080p can cleanly & linearly scale into that anyways (1080x2=2160 and 1920x2=3840) or messily scale up from in between resolutions with DLSS or FSR Also 1440p OLED!!! 240hz is only $430 from INNOCN, $510 from KTC, $6-700 from western name brands.
@@AAjaxTests have been proven that humans cannot see more than 8gb. Its the same reason going above 8gb ram is uselss and I also have an 8gb ssd for tbat reason.
So youtube just decided to turn the whole video into a spanish audio track with no way to change it Edit: After a refresh now there is Spanish, French, Portugese and Italian, still no english lol
If you buy a 4090 you're screwing over everyone in the world that wants a GPU under $1,000 you're also screwing yourself for the future as it's going to be more money than what you bought your 4090 for
I did not buy at those prices. I missed the launch window of the 6800xt, and patiently waited with my aging rx580 for 2 years, until the 6800xt dropped to below MSRP. I bought one on October 12th, 2022 in protest of 4000/7000 series prices. Not everyone who can afford it is willing to pay above MSRP for technology with a limited useful lifespan.
Guys, what the hell is happening? I was listening to the video in English, I hit the pause button for 2 minutes to do some work, and after I hit play again... BAM, the audio is now in Spanish - and the audio option appears as "Spanish (United States)". WTH are you doing, RUclips?
70 class GPUs never were 128 bit and 8 PCIe lanes only. It was only the 60 and 60 Ti that got this treatment in only the 40 series, because before that, we had 192-bit bus width and 256-bit bus width with 16 PCIe 4.0 lanes each with the 3060 and the 3060 Ti, respectively. It's only in the 40 series where we have gone back so massively in terms of overall memory bandwidth. So you could just say you don't want a repeat of the 40 series.
@@quantum5661 As I said, that's THE only solution you have as a customer if you want NVIDIA to do better. Its easy to say because its easy to do. If you can convince others to do the same, all the better. What's the issue again? lmfao
The more hardware improves, the less optimized games get. It's like the adage on how work stretches to fill all available time. Instead of better hardware giving us better results, the results remain relatively the same on newer releases. So yeah, expect triple A games to remain unoptimized. The biggest "oof" about low VRAM from Nvidia is that it's hurting the ability to use their own flagship features of RT and frame-gen. And relating this to the above, they lean more and more heavily on DLSS to give us an "adequate" gaming experience instead of better price/performance natively.
according to this reasoning pong is the ultimate optimized game..... lets hold on all development of games because it will get more unoptimized when they get better and more complex....
You can optimise and they provide the necessary options in the games. Use lower resolution textures, turn off some enhancements, lower the display resolution. Those are all things we've been doing for decades when playing games on a computer.
Spanish lol. I have French, Italian, Spanish and Portuguese as audio options - no English. I thought I was having a small stroke. I wondered why the music at the start sounded so muffled.
i went from a GTX 1060 6GB that lasted 6 years (and is still alive on another PC that i gifted), to a RTX 3070 8GB and i can say with confidence i cannot play games with RT on (with few exceptions) because it hits the VRAM limit everytime and immediately dips the FPS to unplayable (and i'm playing at 3440x1440p), without RT it works just fine on ultra for most games. now the only upgrade i was considering was a 5070 16GB or a 5070 ti 16GB but i see they're raising the prices of GPU's again, in Europe we already pay a 20% VAT tax on top of the price, a 4070 Ti super is around 860 euros (shipping NOT included) and i don't want to pay 900 to 1000 euros for such a bad value card (the 5070 ti) when it brings nothing new to the table, is not MUCH better than a 4070 ti super, and eats way more energy (because energy is now expensive in Europe). i just don't see the point of taking a 12GB VRAM card when it's already obsolete by design and can't reach a decent target framerate in new games, i remember the biggest games i've seen is eating 13GB VRAM at 1440p. a 60 should be 12GB, a 70 should be 16GB, 70 Ti should be 18 or 20GB (normally an entry to the 4K gaming world GPU), a 80 should be 24GB and the 90 should be 32GB. now i don't even care about the RTX 5000 series, it's dead on arrival, not enough VRAM, CUDA core count isn't much better than the previous gen, eats way more energy, etc... yes it has GDDR7 but what's the point if you'll hit VRAM limit in all cases and still play at 40FPS. so anyway, i'll either wait for a 5070 SUPER or Ti SUPER or even the RTX 6000 until this VRAM situation is resolved. and i agree with you, AMD is doing the same thing and trying to eat NVIDIA's market share on things they can't compete with (lol), at least Intel might be our only hope because they used to make good CPU's and aren't greedy with the VRAM.
8gb on a 3070 is such a waste, why even make that boggles my mind, 12gb would have made more sense but even then for a 70 series 16 or 32 should always be the standard
Sellers of non-essentials don't determine prices; buyers do. There are dozens of reasons why video card makers want to set prices high and specs low, but only one reason why they get away with it: people buy such cards. It's been said a gazillion times -- if the price is too high, don't buy. If you buy any non-essential thing, the act of buying it signifies approval of the price.
Buyers aren't a singular entity you can moralize or even anthropomorphize. "Signifies approval" is a metaphor for a fictional "person". Unless the thing is just way beyond the line of being sirens-blaring obvious dogshit, boycotts only work if it's a well-organized, concerted effort to shun something or someone. Otherwise, the effect is always subject to the watering-down effect of averaging different types of people, circumstances and intents and no amount of casual "don't buy" finger wagging or individual "i'm helping by not buying" is going to change businesses minds.
Bingo. There was a shortage but companies saw people would still pay much higher prices. Therefore, they had no incentive to return prices to what used to be normal.
I only got into hardware recently and Steve is right, 40 and certainly 50 series doesn't offer anything good until you get to xx70 so if your budget is just 300 bucks AMD is the best choice with their 6700/6750XT
With the use of frame gen, that's still a solid card... no need to upgrade at all... Wait another year or so and pick up a higher tier card for budget money... it's how I got my 6900XT for less than half the original 999 release price... that I never actually saw any cards for sale below 1199
Doesn’t matter how good a deal AMD has. PC gamers won’t buy them in significant numbers. Saint Dismas provided some incisive critique on the modern GPU market while dying on the cross next to Jesus. “We receive the just rewards of our deeds.”
Wtf, this video starts playing in Spanish ?! And I can only select between Spanish, French and Italian ??? I don't even speak these languages. There is no option for English (original) voice/sound track ?! WHAT
Imagine preparing to watch your regular end-of-month Hardware Unboxed video and then y luego, de repente, me pregunto por qué no entiendo ni una palabra de lo que están diciendo, porque mi cerebro aún no ha cambiado a Español.
They dont really want to sell more GPUs or VRAM. I see that comment when you say about selling with 16gb VRAM, the issue is that we are in a stage where they only want higher margins so they need to convince us that only a higher end can have for example 16gb, AMD did not follow that path for VRAM but because NVIDIA controls the market share they follow that price and also could not compete in terms of performance most of the time, at least in the higher end.
$199 while Intel is financially falling apart? Now that's some strong hopium. It will be miracle if it's $250. Lets not forget that A770 launched for similar price as RX 6700 XT was priced at the time while being a bit slower and the same goes for A580 and RX 6600.
People buy what they can afford, not what is best. If you're on a 1080p TN monitor you can just turn down AA and textures one or two rungs on the quality scale to stay under 8GB of usage and still have fun playing games.
Am I the only person for whom this video doesn't play in English? For some reason it only gives Spanish, Portuguese, Italian, & French as the audio track language options
@蓮90 At this point there's no reason not to just wait until non-reference next gen cards come out which should be comparable in prices to where the 4070 super is atm
You think that is bad, 5900x launched at the same time, and was considered the best gaming GPU on the market, exactly 4 years ago. Tbh, I think if you are on AM4, you are fine with 5600x. Heck, remember you will still have a better gaming CPU than the PS5 pro. I actually upgraded from 5600x to 5900x early this year because I was having productivity issues. If it was just gaming though, I would have gone 5800x3d But if you are building new, then yeah, AM5, Ryzen 4 would make sense as an entry point.
You can really tell people don't watch the video, by the kind of comments they're leaving. This video has been Auto translated it's not even in English at release
It was in English at the release, then YT did YT-things and screwed it up. Since they only make English videos, so it HAD to be English when it was released. They make videos neither in French nor Portugese nor Spanish - only Enlgish.
Nvidia don't care about VRAM squabbles, when will people realise that their gaming cards are just an afterthought now that they can sell the same silicon for multiple thousands of dollars.
Crypto destroyed GPU pricing, Covid kept it insane, and AI is paving over the rubble. The only way hot silicon will be allocated to local devices at reasonable prices is if it becomes advantageous for delivery of home entertainment experiences.
4090 (ti) 1600$ USD $2300 CAD/AUD . 1080ti $699 inflation has tripled the price of the flagship somehow with larger cooler and PCB that might cost a few dollars each. Silicon is maybe $200-500 more per wafer . We are getting gouged all the time and then they are cheaping out on memory controllers and VRAM. Extreme scummy practices but it makes money.
Nvidia can charge whatever they want given AMD follow their lead and price points. Nvid hasn't had any competition in such a long long time, sadly. :( I held the line from purchasing an RX480 8gb back in 2016 until the release of the 4070 for all the good it did, heh.
The audio thing is so baffling that I honestly thought it was a intro joke or something. I sat around for 30ish seconds waiting for the video to actually start. xD
AMD _does_ have cards at $200-600 that hands down beat Nvidia, but Nvidia still wins in sales throughout that price range because it is fanboyism, not performance, that actually rules.
When it comes to RX7600 vs RTX4060, they are neck a neck. 4060 a bit more expensive but is better in everything. That's why it is the most popular. But above, that AMD has better raw performance, but RT and power efficiency sucks, plus Nvidia better for productivity. I don't see AMD competing with 4060ti, as 7700XT is more expensive, but it starts to win with the 7800XT being quite cheaper than the RTX4070 while having better raw performance.
One of the indy games I like to play suffers some modest graphical glitch on AMD (sad face emoji) but I do miss the Radeon Software, some of the features and functionality of that are actually better than what Nvidia is packing. And yeah the VRAM has recently been a circus with Nvidia.
The only card AMD nailed out of the gate was the 7800xt, the 7600 is a card that should never have existed if they could not sell for close to $200 they should have started with a 7700 a 12gb card slightly stronger then the 4060 for $300-340. 7900XTX and XT was a $100 and $150 over priced. First impressions matter when you are the underdog.
Its not fanboyism, the majority arent going to be fanboys My PC works for me, the one thing Tech Deals always got right, After a full day at work, you coming home do you want to troubleshoot or play games? My friend bought a 580 8GB, I got a 1060 6GB. I was playing games like Monster Hunter World while waiting for him to figure out whats going on. Same with RDNA1 Was his 580 a better buy 5 years later? yeah 100% was but 5 years later the 580 wasnt a good card to use the only reason I went Zen1 was fuck Intel
Yeah people really underestimate how small this community is to the amount of people buying at large. We're like Simba in the stampeding horde, clammering for air.
Isnt Nvidia the ones that locked frame generation from the rtx 20 and 30 series video cards and a modder showed us that these cards are capable of using that tech? Yeah my next card will be amd…
8GB GPUs were around at affordable prices in 2014. 16GB GPUs were around at affordable prices in 2016. We were seeing a doubling of VRAM every generation at every tier up until around that point.
The first nVidia card with more than 6Gb was in 2014, had 12Gb and cost $3000, the next year they released a 12Gb for $1000. In 2016 they released a 8Gb model that cost $600. The first AMD card with 8Gb was in 2014 and cost $550. The following year they released an 8Gb card for $330. None of those prices are adjusted for inflation and none of them could be called affordable.
@@loganmedia4401 $550-$600 was very affordable, the first 16GB card at $999 less so, and most of that 33% inflation only took place between 2021 to late 2023.
Exactly. Once you put at least 16GB of VRAM on an nvidia card you start to have a decent AI card. Obviously, more would be better, but hardly anyone would try to do a local LLM on an 8GB card.
Why AMD even bother trying to compete though, because even when they have had comparable(or better) products at lower prices the Nvidiots have always still bought the Nvidia GPUs. So unless they can do a Ryzen and come up with a total game changer they may as well carry on as they are.
Yup, lot of the fear of buying AMD stems from tech channels, the tech channels over emphasise the usefulness and practicality of DLSS and Ray Tracing. Then you get idiots on reddit etc who just regurgitate these playpoints. Ok nvidia is superior if you want to dable in machine learning with CNNs and AMD went through a rough patch with VR .. but they are both edge cases.
I did buy a jacked up 3070 2021 in a Newegg raffle. Worst gpu I’ve ever owned. Powerful but neutered with 8gb vram. Was great til it wasn’t. Gave it away to my nephew who needed a gpu when his 1070 died. Bought the 6750xt and been quite happy playing 1440p with better fps and smoother. Been wanting a new am5 build to replace the 5600x am4. 7800x3d, 7900xtx, 64gb ddr5 6000, 4 tb nvme and a new case and 1000w psu.($2400 spread out over a couple months) will not be buying a new anything for many years!!!
Oh my got the language issue. 1000 people have already commented on it, so I need to comment on it to0, its how you participate in a conversation! The inflation is inconsequential. It is price gouging pure and simple. Wait for the tariffs, lol.
I had an 8GB 290x back in 2015. Got in under 300$ if I remember correctly. It was 200$ cheaper than 980. Then I sold it to a miner for 2x what I paid for it. Ahh, the good days...
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Update: RUclips has fixed the video we believe, the English audio track is now available again. Thanks to everyone who enjoyed Spanish Unboxed while it lasted
i was so confused lmao
yeah back to normal for me
Well that was fast. At least i was here to witness spanish version for a moment.
There are still dubbed versions in the audio settings, but a few people have said that if you change the audio you can't switch back to English so... probably don't try that
Yeah it is back to English now, who the hell knows why it did that
Sorry everyone, we've got absolutely no idea why this CLEARLY ENGLISH AND ONLY ENGLISH video is not available in English right now. Bloody RUclips...
Best part is the captions are still English
LOL
No bueno
@@shraf2kay at least
,😂
Nobody ever expects the Spanish Hardware Unboxing
our chief weapon is surprise, surprise and fear!
I demand an inquisition! 😂
Showing your age...
This might be the best comment ever made on youtube, ever.
That was fucking with me so hard this morning!
Well so far we don't know why RUclips decided to dub this video into Spanish AFTER it was published then DELETED THE ENGLISH AUDIO!?!?!
RUclips support are looking into it but didn't have an immediate solution. For now, seems like you guys are having fun with Spanish Unboxed but hopefully in the future RUclips will fix it and English will be available again
loving the spanish
We all learned how to say 'Hardware Unboxed' in spanish, Thx googles...
This is a side of Steve and Tim I didn’t know I needed 😂
It's ok. I can speak Spanish, but this was a fun surprise! This could be a good April fool's joke.
Wow - the Spanish sure speak fast!
See what happens if you talk trash of NVIDIA. You get AI-ed into a different language
There are 4 audio tracks for the video, and none of them is English. RUclips, what the hay is going on.
lol i thought i was tripping
I thought i was tripping when Spanish Steve hit 😂
Yeah I thought I was going nuts haha
Yeah, what the hell is happening, I don't wanna listen to fake italian voices XD
Do Australians speak English? 🤣
The 480 8gb was released for $250 NEARLY 10 YEARS AGO yet we'll probably still be seeing 8gb cards released for around that price from green team next year....
Probably a higher price. I don't expect anything other than the 5050 if that comes out being $250 or less.
@Eepy-Rose I think the 5050 will be 8gb, the 5060 10-12 gbs for $450-$500
8gb vram in 2017 was considered high end. I think 8gb started becoming an issue during the 3070’s life
@mikeramos91 considering High End? But was released on an ultra budget card.
@@mikeramos91 3070 owner here. Can confirm @ 3440x1440p 3070 ain't it. Have to drop to medium to get higher than 90fps in most games.
10gb - 12gb - should be the bare minimum -re VRAM on the entry level GPUs - that they are going to dump MORE 8Gb model(s) at a price premium is truly egregious imo. Great video as always.
what is fucking wild to me is how fast people accepted $1000+ GPUs. 1080 TI released at $700 and now the 4090 is over 2x that price
Nvidia did a great job of positioning themselves as the luxury brand of GPUs. Some gamers aspire to be the special ones to own the latest Nvidia unobtanium model, same way they trip over themselves to buy the latest flagship phone that is pretty much the same as the phone they already own.
@@AAjax i had to wait a while to get my first smart phone..S23 cuz the 21 and 22 were on that crappy samsung node with throttling and thermals..finally got over to tsmc 4nm(5)..keeping this phone for 5 years at least..24 came did not care..25 is coming..do not care..phone works well..cool thing is i got it on prime day for 600..base model..dont know how people go and buy another one in just a year..im good with this phone..its fast and does everything quickly
@@Spazzfrom.1989 My current phone will be ten next year.
@@loganmedia4401 your battery is holding up well? did you replace it? Also does the lack of security updates concern you?
In the end the issue is us consumers. We buy it.
Its criminal to have 8gb in 2024 not even talking about 2025.
Criminal? Haha! I still have 4 GB, and play pretty much in everything older than a few years.
@@mr_simay Not talking about older GPUs. More like 3070TI 4060TI 5060 all with 8GB sold.
@@listX_DE I have 3050 laptop 4 GB 😅
But yeah, I understand, it is ridiculously low. Games from 2020+ play not so great. And now Stalker 2 is the first ever game, where I can't reach a playable framerate. Shame
Will be interesting to compare whether AMD will offer a better entry level gaming GPU or not...
@@mr_simay big oof. but we'll be glad to know APUs more powerful than a 3050 laptop GPU are gonna release soon, and we'll have power efficiency and no vram problems to look forward to on that front.
covid did not destroyed the pricing. it just made corporations understand better the groupthinking of the consumer and how much evryone is affected by stockholm syndrome
It's mainly the nvidits
@@TheKwodof course it is. Nvidia has the vast majority of the market. Something like 70-80% of people are stupid when it comes to anything, including spending money on gpus. And this is the same for amd fanboys.
@@adamhero459 well said
When you can sell the same technology to someone ready to spend much more money than you for their use… You have no chance (Crypto it was, AI model training it is). Until they have what they want, GPU will be very expensive, then we’ll get the crumbs of their ultra powerful AI TPU, which will be a fantastic GPU for almost nothing… Just have to wait 2-3 years…
The "virus" of hyper-tribalism is actually what came out of the pandemic................and gluttonous levels of fucking greed! And if people don't stop the "spend, spend, spend" mindset, many will be utterly priced out of PC's by 2030 IMO. Only "stupid" people truly have money to burn, as in, their lives are bereft of all meaning without having the latest, and stupid to be creating "paper tiger" corps like Nvidia.
There's no sane reason to release a GPU in 2025 with less than 12 GB of VRAM (10 GB being the absolute minimum even for entry level). And let's be frank, let's adress the elephant in the room: the VRAM issue on PC is solely Nvidia's fault. It ain't 2016 anymore, and there's no such thing as a "8 GB performance GPU" [RIP my dear old 1070].
what do you need 12gb or 10gb of vram for in a low end gpu?
@@tysopiccaso8711 for gaming? Let's assume 5060 would be -10% of performance of 4070. With 8gb 1% lows will be abyssmal with new tittles
@@tysopiccaso8711theres this thing called textures. Textures take a lot of vram but easy on the performance.
@@tysopiccaso8711Ray Tracing and Frame Generation basically don't work without it. And RT is becoming required in new games.
Nobody wants a new product that can't play every game.
I’ll give them 99% of the blame, but Radeon did release the RX 7600 8gb, and if they release another 8gb card this upcoming gen I’ll be pretty disappointed… unless it’s only like 200$ MSRP, then I’ll only he mildly disappointed.
But really I feel like even 1080p cards should have 10-12GB these days. The RX 6700 10GB quietly came out years ago and is my new baseline for bandwidth at that pricing.
Also somewhat related, I think 1080p needs to start getting replaced by 1440p and 4K. 1440p144hz IPS monitors are like $200 these days, and affordable CPUs and GPUs can drive it easily, especially when not bottlenecked by VRAM. GPU divisions need to stop segmenting so hard and forcing 1080p to still be a thing, adoption could’ve been way faster.
And for 4K, 1080p can cleanly & linearly scale into that anyways (1080x2=2160 and 1920x2=3840)
or messily scale up from in between resolutions with DLSS or FSR
Also 1440p OLED!!! 240hz is only $430 from INNOCN, $510 from KTC, $6-700 from western name brands.
the human eye cant' even see more than 8gb of vram.
Even in blind taste tests people can't tell the difference between 8gb and 16gb
@@AAjaxTests have been proven that humans cannot see more than 8gb.
Its the same reason going above 8gb ram is uselss and I also have an 8gb ssd for tbat reason.
@@AAjax you are wise beyond your years. I salute you.
underrated comment
😂😅😅🤣
¡JAJA SÍ, SOY YO!
¡EL HARDWARE DESEMPAQUETADO!
Take my like, you deserve it.
This reads so funny in Spanish, especially with the typical Spanish dubs lol
HARDWARE DESENCAJADO XDD
Artículos-Duros Des-cajados
I'm glad you guys practiced so many languages for this video! 😅 (I hate RUclips.)
Duolingo has found out I'm watching hardware videos instead of learning Spanish.
**threatening bird noises**
Weirdly I can only listen to this in French, itilalian and now Portuguese... can't turn off the audio track... only this video
I'm French but I change the audio
The title of the video is also in french
What's the problem? You aren't trilingual?
Guys have you ever noticed fun fact that AMD is Red, Nvidia is Green and intel is Blue, together they make RGB.
So youtube just decided to turn the whole video into a spanish audio track with no way to change it
Edit: After a refresh now there is Spanish, French, Portugese and Italian, still no english lol
Mine as well
No idea what's going on, mine is in french.
Same, never had it happen before
Like wtf
I thought I was going insane LMAO
If I buy a 4090, will this video play in English?
The more you buy, the more English it gets
If you buy a 4090 you're screwing over everyone in the world that wants a GPU under $1,000 you're also screwing yourself for the future as it's going to be more money than what you bought your 4090 for
It should fine for 1080p low settings
No but it will unlock AI audio translation in the settings along with bit-rate interpolation.
5060 8GB is never going to be anywhere near $200 🤣🤣 I'm guessing at least $400 (Pay more - Get more !NVIDIA!)
5060 and 5060ti will be both 8gb gpus😂
the more you buy the more you save
It will be $300. Remind me in 6 months.
@@KenpachiAjax i would say $330 for 5060 and $420 for 5060ti
@@KenpachiAjax $300 is actually a good price for Nvidia. That is cheaper than the 4060 inflation adjusted.
I did not buy at those prices. I missed the launch window of the 6800xt, and patiently waited with my aging rx580 for 2 years, until the 6800xt dropped to below MSRP. I bought one on October 12th, 2022 in protest of 4000/7000 series prices. Not everyone who can afford it is willing to pay above MSRP for technology with a limited useful lifespan.
Bought one at MSRP nearly a year after release. Second best GPU purchase after buying 5700 XT for £420.
bought a 6900XT for 80% over MSRP during covid to replace my 14-year-old radeon hd
Lol for some reason, English isn't available as an audio track
Well duh they are speaking Australian
Basically consumers shouldn't go lower than 16 gig vram. 8 gig 10 gig cards should be retired from the market permanently in 2024.
WHERE IS THE ORIGINAL AUDIO!!!!!
The Grinch took it.
Gruncho? _El malhumorado,_ apparently. 😂
youtube stole it.
Gone
@@zdspider6778 Como el Grinch se robó la Pista Original de Audio
Guys, what the hell is happening? I was listening to the video in English, I hit the pause button for 2 minutes to do some work, and after I hit play again... BAM, the audio is now in Spanish - and the audio option appears as "Spanish (United States)". WTH are you doing, RUclips?
LMAO
RUclips being RUclips.
Daddy, chill.
Nobody expects the spanish inquisition
I just want a 60 and 70 class GPU that isn't PCIe 8 lanes and 128 bit only.
Vote with your wallet. Unless your business depends on these cards, you don't need to buy a single one. The only other option is competition.
@@MundaneThingsBackwards that easy for you to say, but its not like people like us can buy less then 0 units.
4060Ti 8GB is clearly a perfect GPU
70 class GPUs never were 128 bit and 8 PCIe lanes only. It was only the 60 and 60 Ti that got this treatment in only the 40 series, because before that, we had 192-bit bus width and 256-bit bus width with 16 PCIe 4.0 lanes each with the 3060 and the 3060 Ti, respectively. It's only in the 40 series where we have gone back so massively in terms of overall memory bandwidth. So you could just say you don't want a repeat of the 40 series.
@@quantum5661 As I said, that's THE only solution you have as a customer if you want NVIDIA to do better. Its easy to say because its easy to do. If you can convince others to do the same, all the better.
What's the issue again? lmfao
The more hardware improves, the less optimized games get. It's like the adage on how work stretches to fill all available time. Instead of better hardware giving us better results, the results remain relatively the same on newer releases.
So yeah, expect triple A games to remain unoptimized.
The biggest "oof" about low VRAM from Nvidia is that it's hurting the ability to use their own flagship features of RT and frame-gen. And relating this to the above, they lean more and more heavily on DLSS to give us an "adequate" gaming experience instead of better price/performance natively.
according to this reasoning pong is the ultimate optimized game..... lets hold on all development of games because it will get more unoptimized when they get better and more complex....
You can optimise and they provide the necessary options in the games. Use lower resolution textures, turn off some enhancements, lower the display resolution. Those are all things we've been doing for decades when playing games on a computer.
Spanish lol. I have French, Italian, Spanish and Portuguese as audio options - no English. I thought I was having a small stroke. I wondered why the music at the start sounded so muffled.
An 8GB videocard in 2025 = a 4GB card in 2020 = 2GB in 2015. Not worth more than $150 , and that's including inflation tbh.
L take
Why does the audio switch to french and spanish?
Same here lol
Starts in English for a few seconds and then goes into Spanish from the ad spot.
same here this is so fucking weird lol
Literally thought I’ve finally gone crazy
Yeah, haha. No English audio options.
i went from a GTX 1060 6GB that lasted 6 years (and is still alive on another PC that i gifted), to a RTX 3070 8GB and i can say with confidence i cannot play games with RT on (with few exceptions) because it hits the VRAM limit everytime and immediately dips the FPS to unplayable (and i'm playing at 3440x1440p), without RT it works just fine on ultra for most games.
now the only upgrade i was considering was a 5070 16GB or a 5070 ti 16GB but i see they're raising the prices of GPU's again, in Europe we already pay a 20% VAT tax on top of the price, a 4070 Ti super is around 860 euros (shipping NOT included) and i don't want to pay 900 to 1000 euros for such a bad value card (the 5070 ti) when it brings nothing new to the table, is not MUCH better than a 4070 ti super, and eats way more energy (because energy is now expensive in Europe).
i just don't see the point of taking a 12GB VRAM card when it's already obsolete by design and can't reach a decent target framerate in new games, i remember the biggest games i've seen is eating 13GB VRAM at 1440p.
a 60 should be 12GB, a 70 should be 16GB, 70 Ti should be 18 or 20GB (normally an entry to the 4K gaming world GPU), a 80 should be 24GB and the 90 should be 32GB.
now i don't even care about the RTX 5000 series, it's dead on arrival, not enough VRAM, CUDA core count isn't much better than the previous gen, eats way more energy, etc... yes it has GDDR7 but what's the point if you'll hit VRAM limit in all cases and still play at 40FPS.
so anyway, i'll either wait for a 5070 SUPER or Ti SUPER or even the RTX 6000 until this VRAM situation is resolved.
and i agree with you, AMD is doing the same thing and trying to eat NVIDIA's market share on things they can't compete with (lol), at least Intel might be our only hope because they used to make good CPU's and aren't greedy with the VRAM.
8gb on a 3070 is such a waste, why even make that boggles my mind, 12gb would have made more sense but even then for a 70 series 16 or 32 should always be the standard
RUclips fucked up this video.
Sellers of non-essentials don't determine prices; buyers do. There are dozens of reasons why video card makers want to set prices high and specs low, but only one reason why they get away with it: people buy such cards. It's been said a gazillion times -- if the price is too high, don't buy. If you buy any non-essential thing, the act of buying it signifies approval of the price.
I've been busy not buying for ages. Unfortunately my fellow gamers are screwing me over by remortgaging their Mom's house to pay for 90 class cards.
Buyers aren't a singular entity you can moralize or even anthropomorphize. "Signifies approval" is a metaphor for a fictional "person". Unless the thing is just way beyond the line of being sirens-blaring obvious dogshit, boycotts only work if it's a well-organized, concerted effort to shun something or someone. Otherwise, the effect is always subject to the watering-down effect of averaging different types of people, circumstances and intents and no amount of casual "don't buy" finger wagging or individual "i'm helping by not buying" is going to change businesses minds.
More specifically access to credit determines prices but that is to disturbing to get into.
Buyers are freaking idiots. Thats why democracy is falling everywhere, its like COVID did brain damage to most of humanity.
Bingo. There was a shortage but companies saw people would still pay much higher prices. Therefore, they had no incentive to return prices to what used to be normal.
I only got into hardware recently and Steve is right, 40 and certainly 50 series doesn't offer anything good until you get to xx70 so if your budget is just 300 bucks AMD is the best choice with their 6700/6750XT
With the use of frame gen, that's still a solid card... no need to upgrade at all... Wait another year or so and pick up a higher tier card for budget money... it's how I got my 6900XT for less than half the original 999 release price... that I never actually saw any cards for sale below 1199
@@AnomnomnomalyI honestly don’t like frame gen. I’m too sensitive to the input lag/responsiveness
6700xt yes……6700 no.
@@techluvin7691 Nobody said 6700, the XT at the end applies to both my suggestions.
Doesn’t matter how good a deal AMD has. PC gamers won’t buy them in significant numbers.
Saint Dismas provided some incisive critique on the modern GPU market while dying on the cross next to Jesus.
“We receive the just rewards of our deeds.”
I remember a time when paying $500 for a top of the line GPU was considered insane.
Why is the video in a different language 💀😅
Edit : the whole audio is in French, i thought there doing a bit first but nope...💀
They're so close to saying that the 4080 replaced the 3070. So close.
Like many others, Audio for me is Spanish. I don't see a way to change it to English. What's going on??
Hardware Unboxed en Español, increíble. Gracias!
Wtf, this video starts playing in Spanish ?!
And I can only select between Spanish, French and Italian ???
I don't even speak these languages.
There is no option for English (original) voice/sound track ?! WHAT
Skill issue
Even if you did the AI dub is garbage. 99% unintelligible.
It's the new youtube language diversity requirement
Doulingo has come for you my friend, there is no escaping it.
Both Covid and Crypto boom came at the same time made it a double whammy.
We have to vote with our wallet.
Prepare your legs steve, RTX5000 is coming
Imagine preparing to watch your regular end-of-month Hardware Unboxed video and then y luego, de repente, me pregunto por qué no entiendo ni una palabra de lo que están diciendo, porque mi cerebro aún no ha cambiado a Español.
RUclips adding all the languages except English
They dont really want to sell more GPUs or VRAM. I see that comment when you say about selling with 16gb VRAM, the issue is that we are in a stage where they only want higher margins so they need to convince us that only a higher end can have for example 16gb, AMD did not follow that path for VRAM but because NVIDIA controls the market share they follow that price and also could not compete in terms of performance most of the time, at least in the higher end.
pretty sure amd also released a 8gb vram card
@@MGrey-qb5xz AMD released a *_4GB_* card quite recently, and well past the time when that was “acceptable”.
Why is a french audio track playing and how to turn it off ?
same
Mine is spanish. I don't understand a single word.
Same here, on Android RUclips App, language track options are only Spanish, Italian or French
I guess my france lessons are actually useful
how to set the audio track to english ? no option available
Well, Brazilian Hardware Unboxing sounds so funny. 😅
I'm Brazilian, by the way.
A+ for the feature! (but it weirds me out, I'm back to English track)
why is the audio in spanish?
Mine is too! What is this?
TLDR we are dumb for buying overpriced Nvidia cards.
Hopefully a $199 12GB B580 will put a stop to all 8GB cards!
it won't, only people would stop that.
Stop buying 8 Gigs
It's probably going to be 9GB. The new VRAM chips are of 3GB each.
i just want some low profile cards that arent (A: 300% overpriced (B: slow (C: 8gb vram
$199 while Intel is financially falling apart? Now that's some strong hopium. It will be miracle if it's $250. Lets not forget that A770 launched for similar price as RX 6700 XT was priced at the time while being a bit slower and the same goes for A580 and RX 6600.
Well after 13th,14th and 15th gen I really don't have any trust in Intel to make a good product. But, that's just me being pessimistic. 🤞
It was evident that the 4060 will be no good with its 8GB of VRAM, yet it dominates the Steam survey chart.
It dominates because it is the cheapest GPU that can actually run new games. That doesn't mean it is a good GPU.
@@mclarenf1gtr99 It dominates because monkey see - monkey buy.
People buy what they can afford, not what is best. If you're on a 1080p TN monitor you can just turn down AA and textures one or two rungs on the quality scale to stay under 8GB of usage and still have fun playing games.
Very few games games on Steam require 8gb vram.
@@gmonkman What yall gonna do with your 8Gb 4060 and 5060 when most new titles use Unoptimized Engine 5?
"No one wants to use medium settings" @10:00
Me, a CS player. Boy do I got news for you lolol
Am I the only person for whom this video doesn't play in English?
For some reason it only gives Spanish, Portuguese, Italian, & French as the audio track language options
The heck is going on? I can only choose between Spanish, French and Italian sound, lol!
5060 8GB is a joke, but consumers will still elevate it to the most successful card.
If you're on a budget, why not buy AMD? Much better value.
@@stanislavkimov2779For gaming? Precisely. For everything else? God no
@@scarm_rune where AMD still lacks? To a point that 4060 is still considered a good buy for the money?
a 4060 with 16gb is all you need
Both sitting down can only mean good news.... 😒
I half-expected them to be standing after the music
Sitting down is -(bad news)=good news
but (-)(-)(bad news)= bad news
:(
Did RUclips just AI translated this video into Spanish????
Can’t wait to see the look on my bosses face when I submit the purchase order for a 5090. 😙👌
What an effing joke.
Staying with my 2080 until... 🤷🏻♂️
Get a 7800xt or 4070 super. Big upgrade from 2080.
@蓮90 At this point there's no reason not to just wait until non-reference next gen cards come out which should be comparable in prices to where the 4070 super is atm
Goodbye gaming. Hello book reading club
... Suddenly book prices jump up 300%....
Well about that... 😅
Minimum CPU for gaming would be a 5800X(3D)/7600?
5600X: Am I a joke to you? :c
I was thinking more like a used x99 xeon or r5 1400.
You think that is bad, 5900x launched at the same time, and was considered the best gaming GPU on the market, exactly 4 years ago.
Tbh, I think if you are on AM4, you are fine with 5600x. Heck, remember you will still have a better gaming CPU than the PS5 pro.
I actually upgraded from 5600x to 5900x early this year because I was having productivity issues. If it was just gaming though, I would have gone 5800x3d
But if you are building new, then yeah, AM5, Ryzen 4 would make sense as an entry point.
why do I hear a spanish dub?????
Oh alternatively I can choose Italian or French.
You can really tell people don't watch the video, by the kind of comments they're leaving.
This video has been Auto translated it's not even in English at release
When it first dropped I watched it in English the whole video
haha
It was in English at the release, then YT did YT-things and screwed it up.
Since they only make English videos, so it HAD to be English when it was released.
They make videos neither in French nor Portugese nor Spanish - only Enlgish.
Dead internet
What the heck is going on with the audio? I thought the guys were trolling us
happy april first
@@allofyourdreams man, I'm so glad Spring is finally here! Oh, wait...
rat boy
You guys are aweswome. Video idea: Get to Know you. Your backgrounds, how you got into computers and youtube.
2:15 umm is the video suppose to stay cropped for a few seconds?
Nvidia don't care about VRAM squabbles, when will people realise that their gaming cards are just an afterthought now that they can sell the same silicon for multiple thousands of dollars.
Crypto destroyed GPU pricing, Covid kept it insane, and AI is paving over the rubble.
The only way hot silicon will be allocated to local devices at reasonable prices is if it becomes advantageous for delivery of home entertainment experiences.
Im so excited to wait for the 20090 card with 16gb vram and ddr15 for a low price of 14000$ and only 20% better than a 5080
Am I having a stroke??
Why is it spanish?
Sí es usted
it's not poor planning, it's greed. forcing people to pay more for a higher tier.
Next gen cards with only 8GB will have Steve standing up during his review.
4090 (ti) 1600$ USD $2300 CAD/AUD . 1080ti $699 inflation has tripled the price of the flagship somehow with larger cooler and PCB that might cost a few dollars each. Silicon is maybe $200-500 more per wafer . We are getting gouged all the time and then they are cheaping out on memory controllers and VRAM. Extreme scummy practices but it makes money.
Nvidia can charge whatever they want given AMD follow their lead and price points. Nvid hasn't had any competition in such a long long time, sadly. :(
I held the line from purchasing an RX480 8gb back in 2016 until the release of the 4070 for all the good it did, heh.
We have had 8gb cards since the 390x. It is time to move on
by the looks of it I'm going AMD again, i need more than 16gb of VRAM and no way in hell I'm forking out 2000 for a 5090
the thumbnail makes me think it was another Diablo IV video, for the blue hoodie 😂
Suddenly spanish
Nobody expects the Duolingo hidden promo.
Why the hell do I hear Spanish???
The audio thing is so baffling that I honestly thought it was a intro joke or something. I sat around for 30ish seconds waiting for the video to actually start. xD
AMD _does_ have cards at $200-600 that hands down beat Nvidia, but Nvidia still wins in sales throughout that price range because it is fanboyism, not performance, that actually rules.
When it comes to RX7600 vs RTX4060, they are neck a neck. 4060 a bit more expensive but is better in everything. That's why it is the most popular. But above, that AMD has better raw performance, but RT and power efficiency sucks, plus Nvidia better for productivity. I don't see AMD competing with 4060ti, as 7700XT is more expensive, but it starts to win with the 7800XT being quite cheaper than the RTX4070 while having better raw performance.
@@mclarenf1gtr99 depends on the market too. Here in India, they are the same price, and you can sometimes find the RTX 4060 for less
One of the indy games I like to play suffers some modest graphical glitch on AMD (sad face emoji) but I do miss the Radeon Software, some of the features and functionality of that are actually better than what Nvidia is packing. And yeah the VRAM has recently been a circus with Nvidia.
The only card AMD nailed out of the gate was the 7800xt, the 7600 is a card that should never have existed if they could not sell for close to $200 they should have started with a 7700 a 12gb card slightly stronger then the 4060 for $300-340. 7900XTX and XT was a $100 and $150 over priced. First impressions matter when you are the underdog.
Its not fanboyism, the majority arent going to be fanboys
My PC works for me, the one thing Tech Deals always got right,
After a full day at work, you coming home do you want to troubleshoot or play games?
My friend bought a 580 8GB, I got a 1060 6GB. I was playing games like Monster Hunter World while waiting for him to figure out whats going on. Same with RDNA1
Was his 580 a better buy 5 years later? yeah 100% was but 5 years later the 580 wasnt a good card to use
the only reason I went Zen1 was fuck Intel
so in short nvidia realised a few rich people will pay stupid prices and now we all have to suffer because rich people exist
Blame AI and greed.
@@JimBobm its always greed
Anything. Because people will by no matter what.
Ha, just written the same thing. All reviewers and people are crying and then still put three months of salary on their pc...
Yeah people really underestimate how small this community is to the amount of people buying at large.
We're like Simba in the stampeding horde, clammering for air.
NVIDIA in couple of years: "buy your mum a RTX graphics card"
Listen to them at 2x English and you kind of get the Spanish unboxed experience.
Welcome to Járdwer Anbócsd , I'm Estív Waltón along side Tim Shiéser here for November Q&A.
Isnt Nvidia the ones that locked frame generation from the rtx 20 and 30 series video cards and a modder showed us that these cards are capable of using that tech? Yeah my next card will be amd…
8GB GPUs were around at affordable prices in 2014.
16GB GPUs were around at affordable prices in 2016.
We were seeing a doubling of VRAM every generation at every tier up until around that point.
The first nVidia card with more than 6Gb was in 2014, had 12Gb and cost $3000, the next year they released a 12Gb for $1000. In 2016 they released a 8Gb model that cost $600. The first AMD card with 8Gb was in 2014 and cost $550. The following year they released an 8Gb card for $330. None of those prices are adjusted for inflation and none of them could be called affordable.
@@loganmedia4401 $550-$600 was very affordable, the first 16GB card at $999 less so, and most of that 33% inflation only took place between 2021 to late 2023.
AI is what is driving nvidia’s pricing. Why would they sell it cheap to consumers when they could sell it for much more to professionals?
Exactly. Once you put at least 16GB of VRAM on an nvidia card you start to have a decent AI card. Obviously, more would be better, but hardly anyone would try to do a local LLM on an 8GB card.
I was beginning to think I've completely lost it. Then I checked the comments.
Why AMD even bother trying to compete though, because even when they have had comparable(or better) products at lower prices the Nvidiots have always still bought the Nvidia GPUs.
So unless they can do a Ryzen and come up with a total game changer they may as well carry on as they are.
Yup, lot of the fear of buying AMD stems from tech channels, the tech channels over emphasise the usefulness and practicality of DLSS and Ray Tracing. Then you get idiots on reddit etc who just regurgitate these playpoints. Ok nvidia is superior if you want to dable in machine learning with CNNs and AMD went through a rough patch with VR .. but they are both edge cases.
I did buy a jacked up 3070 2021 in a Newegg raffle. Worst gpu I’ve ever owned. Powerful but neutered with 8gb vram. Was great til it wasn’t. Gave it away to my nephew who needed a gpu when his 1070 died. Bought the 6750xt and been quite happy playing 1440p with better fps and smoother. Been wanting a new am5 build to replace the 5600x am4. 7800x3d, 7900xtx, 64gb ddr5 6000, 4 tb nvme and a new case and 1000w psu.($2400 spread out over a couple months) will not be buying a new anything for many years!!!
Oh my got the language issue. 1000 people have already commented on it, so I need to comment on it to0, its how you participate in a conversation! The inflation is inconsequential. It is price gouging pure and simple. Wait for the tariffs, lol.
I had an 8GB 290x back in 2015. Got in under 300$ if I remember correctly. It was 200$ cheaper than 980. Then I sold it to a miner for 2x what I paid for it. Ahh, the good days...
Hardware unboxed dropping another sick audio track 🗣🗣 🤷🤷♂🤷♀🤷🤷♂🤷♀
Never, ever watching HU videos any other way. Spanish Steve is the man!