So is Xbox Dead Or Not?
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- Опубликовано: 17 фев 2024
- Over the past few weeks the internet has debated whether Xbox is going multiplatform, putting exclusives on PlayStation, leaving the console business forever, ending game pass, or any number of scenarios in between.
I decided to wait a bit to see how this panned out before making a video, and I’m glad I did.
Because to be honest I feel we’ve been left with more questions than answers.
Seemingly.
All the pieces are in place to figure out what happens to beloved franchises like “halo” and “the elder scrolls” and such.
Now it’s to me, a largely unqualified cartoon cat, to dig through this mess.
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These are the actions of a psychopath.
I like that.
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If games keep costing 200 million plus to make why wouldn't companies not want to put their games on every console and PC to recoup the growing cost
My only problem with this, is that playstation won't be putting their exclusives on xbox which makes it so that there's basically no reason to have an xbox after this
so what ? nintendo dont put their games on playstation and xbox and still they fine in business
Same reason brick and mortar retailers sell "loss leaders." To get you into their *their* store instead of someone else's.
The holder of the platform takes 20-30% of all third-party sales and keeps 100% of their own sales. So they're willing to take a bit of a bath on Ratchet and Clank or God of War if it means they're going to have tens of millions of customers in their ecosystem, giving them a percentage of all the revenue that Fortnite and Call of Duty and whatnot are making, without them having to lift a finger or absorb any risk on creating those other games.
If you lose the platform, not only are you paying a percentage to someone else in their storefront, you're also absorbing all the risk. Sony and Nintendo only need to break even or even lose just a thin margin on first-party sales, then reap sick profits off the markets they're running.
Because most of their games are cheaper to make because of the Switch and budget their assets on that. I wonder how much of that change with the new console tho...@2PAC-96
Because of the economies of ecosystem. Sony earns money not just from exclusives in themselves, but from the online subscription (that doesn't exist in PC), the other games people will buy on the Sony store, the Sony subscription , the cosmetics bought through Sony store, etc.
That bit about Microsoft declaring growth with Game Pass because they started counting Xbox Gold subscribers is literally the same as that mayor in Cyberpunk that declared violent crime was down because he stopped counting the most violent district
You might not believe it but it's a real life tactic used in politics. Not some horrible unspeakable theoretical from a distant cyberpunk future...so yeah...kinda sucks.
Nah, cyberpunk subtract, while MS added.
@@yubos98 Writing cyberpunk dystopias is so easy now, you just give everyone robot hands and read a newspaper to see what real politicians are doing.
@@Del_S Stop and think about that for a second. In a true dystopia that stuff would never reach the newspapers.
@@mokarokas-1727 Or perhaps they know no one actually cares because they've got the population into a state of It Is What It Is
“the biggest leap in gaming history”
Gen 1 to Gen 2:
Generation 1 was consoles like the Magnavox Odyssey. It was so weak it literally couldn't render the background. Gen 2 is the atari 2600 which could in fact, make some decent games...sort of.
More like Gen 2 to Gen 3, you went from extremely jank blobs on the Atari to actual full fledged (but short) videogames on the NES.
Between the last and the current gen, ecosystems became the main reason people buy a certain console. I think in this generation we're gonna see far less importance given to exclusives from Sony and Microsoft, since they no longer push the sales they used to, while also having become way more expensive
Even Phil Spencer acknowledged that 8th gen was pretty much the worst possible generation to definitively lose, since that was the generation when digital ecosystems were cemented.
@@BoxoSpoonsI've had this thought many times as someone who loved the Xbox 360, but ditched Xbox after that. If Xbox just didn't try doing their always online bs, they would've had a MUCH better generation and the Xbox would probably still be a real competitor. Even if they still bundled the kinect and kept a $500 pricetag. The PS3 basically flopped in all the same ways the Xbox One did... Minus the smooth brained decision to even think about having always online drm *_for a god damn game console in 2013._* Like holy shit Don Mattrick, sharing games and only needing a disc to play is a big reason people buy consoles in the first place! Even today, but especially so in 2013!
@@urphakeandgey6308 about the always online thing with Xbox... i never have my Xbox One set Offline unless theres a power outage
@@nickm5419 I remember buying a launch Xbox One in 2018 from CeX, it had never been updated, on the day 1 dashboard and firmware.
That was great for a collector like me, until I remembered I had no internet and the Xbox One initially needed internet to function...
I remember sitting there for three hours wondering why my DOOM disc was still on 0% when installing it, when it hit me... Good times.
Sony is still launching multiple exclusives that sell a lot and most importantly give mainstream fame and clout to the ecosystem (flagship poles), even if some of them go eventually to PC after a while, that is still a part of the structure. Common people that had no PS# see big launches for AAA games, feel FOMO, and buy PS#.
Nintendo famously only exists because of its exclusives. Nintendo without Pokemon Mario and Zelda would have gone the way of Sega.
If I can push the definition, in PC gaming, lots and lots of games are only on Steam, making it the monopoly platform for a bunch of exclusives. I still tell people to go to Gog if they can.
I miss the Whimsu intro...
lost in the divorce
Along with the dog.
Along with the Xbox exclusives
It was an Xbox exclusive
It’s funny how Nintendo is just unaffected by all of this. They’ll just stick to their exclusives
Nintendo is an alien. Huh? What's that, what's happening on earth? Who cares, here's some mario fighting kart rpg game, you already know it's good.
It could be argued that Nintendo made the right choice to follow Gunpei Yokoi's philosophy of withered technology. Yes, it's very outdated and makes the console very unappealing to third-party developers, but it makes first-party developer much more easier and cheaper. I don't know how much Nintendo has earned with all the copies sold for Mario Kart 8 DX, Animal Crossing: New Horizons and Smash Ultimate
I know there's plenty of people that say that Nintendo does not compete directly with the "big" consoles, but on certain aspects they are. I mean all companies compete to grab the attention of people in general and in some markets like Japan, Nintendo has total control, to the point that some developers like CyberConnect 2 lament the fact that people don't buy a PS5 and instead they're happy with owning a Switch or just play mobile games
Then you also have Phil Spencer's leaked e-mails from 2021 where he said that him acquiring Nintendo would be a "career moment" and that he believes one day Nintendo would understand that their software could be on other hardware that isn't theirs. Which is hilarious considering Xbox and PS current situation where they're now considering multiplatform releases, while Nintendo's games are truly exclusive
@@NiiRubra
>Gaming company makes games
Really fucking bizarre gameplan right? What will they do next?
@@redline841b-but Phil said you cant do that!!!
@@twincherries6698
Phil said to let other people make games for them, at least he's honest with the fact they have been pushing Game Pass. I just wish they got rid of monthly subscriptions for basic online play. That stupid thing is why I only play on PC
this is happening to a lesser extent now, but exclusive titles usually became value titles past the midpoint of a console's lifetime. A lot of people are still used to times where a console exclusive would eventually become a "greatest hits" game and priced at $19.99. Nintendo basically doesn't do it anymore, and in fact does the opposite, treating exclusives like marquee, tentpole properties that are "only available here" and worth $50-60 years after they released.
You're not wrong, I just googled how much Super Smash Bros Ultimate goes for, which came out 6 years ago this year and a new copy seemed to be £45-50. Which I think might actually be MORE than what I bought it for in 2018 lmao.
Honestly this says to me one thing: if we ever get a new Banjo-Kazooie, there’s a decent chance it’ll come to Switch. This is the least impactful thing but it makes me happy :)
The lesson today: only trust a leak when (a) the leak gets DMCA'd by the company or (b) it comes from people with ACTUAL insider news, like Jason Schreier.
>Jason Schreier.
Ah yes, the guy who knew about the Blizzard abuses for years but never reported on them because he wanted to save it for his book.
@@JJAB91 I mean, that still sounds like he's a credible insider when he does break the news about stuff.
@@JJAB91 Probably did it to not lose his sources. Still 50/50 on the morality of it but he is extremely credible.
I only believe it from the horses mouth.
Thats... still doing his job and doing it well.@@JJAB91
Whatever happens, I just hope they keep making controllers.
I've been a Playstation fanboy all my life but ever since I got my first XBOX controller for my pc I really can't go back
Agreed. I like Playstation lot of great games like God of War or Twisted Metal but I hate both sticks on the bottom. Just so uncomfortable.
If they make their controllers parable with the PlayStation controllers there’s no going back
I adore the Dualshock 4, but the Sixaxis, Dualshock 3, 2 and original, and the no sticks first controller were terribly uncomfortable to use.
Xbox were always the better ones in my opinion, the Elite style is the comfiest, and Dualsense was comfy until it started drifting 3 weeks in, but Xbox controller just hit differently. They're my go-to on PC all the time, especially this GameSir Xbox One controller with hall effect sticks.
Honestly my only problem with Xbox controllers is that they still don't have motion controls. Seriously shooters suck on console and the easiest way to fix it would be motion controls which are way more precise than sticks.
Seriously we should not live in a world where ocarina of time 3d has more precise aiming mechanics than 99% of all console shooters.
Hard Truths: Casual Gamers are not easy game Nintendo Blue Ocean content...
Casual Gamers are: You yearly Madden/Fifa and COD player who also might play the top 10 Twitch Flavor of the Month a few times a year.
They are the biggest market, and they will buy the console that enables playing those games the easiet. Since MaddenFifaCOD is on everything, it'll come down to "what my friends have."
COD on Wii was literally the best **console** version because of the IR aiming, Sin and Punishment 2.. exists- there were just as many hardcore games on Wii *and* they were more fun there
I don't get how the "pro" gamers refused to accept such a revolutionary advancement in aiming on controllers and eternally condemned it to the "bad ideas" basket with their constant complaining- so much so that new technologies like gyro aim continue to be lambasted because they have "Wii cooties" despite them being categorically better than anything a control stick could ever do
Also sorry for the tangent. World's first strand-type comment
It's because motion controls don't work for everyone, including me. I find it to be more difficult to aim with motion than it is with simple analogue sticks. And it's more of a simple concept for a simple controller than motion controls when it was seen as a gimmick. Plus having those pro controllers are more effeciant than motion control aiming, it might work for some but not for all....
You say that but have you seen the sales of Pokemon?
@@bobtom1495
That's what happens when you have almost two decades of muscle memory ingrained to your system. I feel most at home with motion aim than sticks after sinking too much time into MW22 after they added gyro
@@bluedogz1624
Wii cooties and the boogaloo is a blessing and curse. Curse because we are still using clunky as fuck controls to point our guns at each other, but also a blessing because I would unironically cry if suddenly every console had the Railgun God
If there's truly one thing that I wish more developers did at Xbox was to make smaller projects to allow Xbox to have more games as well as possibly more exclusives since they have so many developers now. I love when there's a big game released but man having to wait so many years especially with Activision Blizzard just now being acquired means it's still going to take years for there to be any new games and yet there are so many legacy titles that they could easily re-release through backwards compatibility as well as bringing it to the digital store. It is a shame that we don't have the cybertron transformer games available and we need to get them back!
I came for the info and stayed for the animation style, I kid you not, you have something special here.
are you serious?
Phil always says the future will be this it will be that. Guy forgets he’s in charge of the platform in last place. He WISHES Nintendo and PlayStation would follow in their footsteps
I can kind of see the logic in making their 'forever' exclusives timed exclusives. But what on earth do MS gain from letting other companies make Xboxes?! I can't see the advantage at all.
Consoles are sold at a loss
Yeah and we already have those, it's called a PC. That'd just make xbox something like alienware, a gaming PC branding.
Allowing other people to make Xboxes will likely not succeed, just as the 3DO failed (albeit it failed for numerous reasons). Unless the manufacturers receive compensation (royalties), they'll likely just be more significantly more expensive (even if they have good hardware and physical (airflow) design to compensate for the increase). I haven't seen the inside of a Series S in person yet, but the Series X was impressive to me in that it was finally an airflow box that actually made sense. Would be hard to improve or cost reduce without actually lowering the TDP of the hardware or compromising on thermals.
Like how every time he talks the cat does the salute💀
Glad I wasn't the only one knew that Phil Spencer is testing the waters with 4 Xbox Exclusives then will most likely bring more.
Obviously.
I just hope they do a GOW collection soon in general. Would love to play them on pc
congrats on the 100,000 subs
but when will they finally release pc2?
PC2 exclusives: gnoP 2 and Half Life 3.
@@BungieStudios cant wait
My question is. What did Xbox fans expect? Microsoft is well known in their history to hate competition and kill it and try to be the defacto monopoly for decades now. They failed at monopolizing the console market. So they'll most probably jump ship or keep Xbox consoles as an after thought in the years coming. Go to where the money is and focus solely on the growth potential of cloud and game streaming while using the funds from multiplatform releases finances that venture until it becomes profitable. It makes the most sense to me.
Look again
@@dusermiginte4647 look again at what?
Crazy idea but what if a company made exclusive games that cost 2 million dollars to make instead of 200 million.
I am reminded of that time that Shigeru Miyamoto said that Breath of the Wild, which at the time was Nintendo's most expensive game, needed to sell over 2 million copies to be profitable and in the end it sold over 30 million copies
Aka: the Nintendo strategy
Pentiment was one of the biggest surprises on Game Pass for me. Genuinely turned out to be my GOTY for 2022. I'll be happy if more people get to experience it, seems perfect for Switch in particular.
It's only mostly dead. There's a big difference between mostly dead and all dead
Still making games, still planning new consoles, just off the bat from the biggest acquisition in gaming and a few rumors supposedly make it dead, good luck with that one pal
@@nickfury411 it's a line from a movie lol
How is it mostly dead when they don't plan on stopping making games and consoles. If they only made a few then yes, but they didn't say that.
Inconceivable
@@GMindset959 they fell into one of classic blunders getting rid of exclusives, it's like getting into a land war in Asia, you just don't do that
I don't blame Microsoft for going beyond Xbox and PC, it's smart business in this environment, however it will be interesting to see how much further Sony will go in response. Going to the PC is one thing, but lowering the barrier to Xbox, that's certainly another.
$ony too STUBBORN for that, and it'll ultimately kill the PlayStation Brand. 😏
Leaker Pyoro confirmed a partner direct next week where mostly likely, hi fi rush will be revealed for switch.
*🔫 Delet this 😡*
Long answer: Absolutely not.
Short answer: No.
I think I'm at the point where I just feel no confidence in them I kind of configured Nintendo is going to do Nintendo things but Xbox.. I don't know.
It's what it shall be
My lack of money is on the cycle of Exclusives at new platform release, then changing to mutliplatform later and repeat.
When will you stream again?
8:18 you forgot one other big factor, what system their friends have. You could be the biggest PS fan, but if all your friends have an Xbox, you'll probably get one.
Joke’s on you I have no friends!
Playstation... exclusives? Havent heard of those since Bloodborne
Phil is insane saying exclusives will go away, nintendo is right there.
Phil said in a leaked e-mail from 2021 that one day Nintendo would realize that their games will have to live outside or their own hardware
He also said that he wishes some Nintendo games would come to Xbox and that he could manage to buy Nintendo that would be a "career moment" for him
Until the competition stops having a thumb up their ass, Nintendo won't do anything.
@@pablocasas5906
When EA makes a new CnC game then I'll believe Nintendo will make a jump. Otherwise, they are gonna stay where they are while most of the AAA industry falls over themselves trying to complete the most basic of tasks
Yeah, like they dont have a plan. 😂
The weird thing here is that both consoles already port many of their games to another console - the PC. I’m a big fan of Microsoft and I don’t own an MS console; I can play them all on PC. Even Sony has put stuff like Rift Apart, FFVIIr, and God of War on PC. I guess console warriors like to pretend the PC doesn’t exist, but for a lot of us this fully multi platform future is already 80% of the way here.
PCs are different from consoles though in some significant ways. The whole appeal of having a console is that the average joe can buy one box for games instead of researching and potentially spending more money on a PC.
Microsoft also isnt exactly losing money because of windoes.
Don't forget that next-gen level PCs are and will pretty much always be an enthusiast option. First-party console games have been getting ported to PC because it's an alternative to the console market, not a fourth pillar of it.
Because, let's face it, if you're looking at buying a console for your main way to play games, you're probably not in the market to spend quadruple-digits on the device so you can play games on it, and if you already have a PC that can run games as well as or better than consoles, convincing you to buy a $500 console on top of that is already pretty unlikely.
Two different markets
It is the future, but they still need to close the gap between the PC and console market. And prices need to got down if they really want to compete.
Not to mention the awful reputation PC ports from AAA developers. Still, is a different market for now we're yet to close the gap once and for all and let consoles dissapear for good if they don't add anything of real technical value outside of exclusives.
@@moister3727 The #1 thing that dedicated gaming devices will always have on game-capable PCs is convenience and accessibility. It's a single, self-explanatory purchase that's set to start playing games, and with all the games designed to be straightforward to get started. As someone who does play PC, I can't tell you how many of my games I pretty much have to beat with a wrench for a bit before they'll work optimally. If you want the real benefits of PC, you need to know what you're doing.
Fuck was thinking of getting an Xbox cause my ps account was hacked. $500 stolen, took two weeks just to reach a bot, and still haven’t heard back since I contacted them back in August 2023.
Security and costumer service will be a big key in the future. Cause one of the big reasons I’m still have a switch was that the same thing happened on my switch years back and it took me less than hours with an operator that was giving all hands on deck energy
Samee hapenned to me with Xbox, though it was sort of my fault. Got hacked by a Taiwanese group and couldn't recover my account after a week and they never answered properly.
Got tired and decided to create a new one. Some of my games that I legally bought with my "hacked" account were still avaible for download oddly enough. It wasn't really hacked, just restricted.
Make sure your passwords are...well, decently complicated and long. Got me a good spook.
congrats on 100k
Still waiting for Bloodborne to come to PC..
I'm still waiting for Demon Souls on PC
Never going to happen
You can play it on PC just not officially you didn't hear it from me though.
5:53 ancient greek automata mentioned
You got a 2nd channel?
If this question has to be asked every couple of months then Xbox might not be in a good place, regardless of whatever they announce. Also, that Podcast felt very sanitised and curated to specifically address the backlash. I reckon a lot more is to come with regards to Xbox's push into third party.
Honestly i think flagpole exclusives will remain on xbox like halo, gears, new elder scrolls and itll mostly be smaller games like hi fi rush going to other consoles, like ori and cuphead got ported a bit later.
Not a hope Halo will be on PS 6 that’s not type strategy MS are pursuing. Clearly stated.
2:43 we had the toaster and refrigerator mow get ready for the
X Box trash can
Thats the ps5.. also functions as a door stop and litter box for cats..
Achievement unlocked: Being in the credits of a youtube video.
>caring about consoles
>year 1445 of our prophet (pbuh)
wew
Wha-
Who are you quoting?
Welcome back Shadow
I mean, hearing the GROWTH meeting for Xbox and seeing the announcement of no major first party Sony games for the whole year kinda makes me even happier than I need to be in PC land.
I own the precursor to the steam machine. The alienware alpha r1. Still runs great. Its tiny
Damn that outro was funky
This is very on brand for Phil Spencer. I.e. go and give an interview moments after a presentation only to say the opposite thing he said before.
Gamers we must rise they want peace between the console wars we must fight even harder with each other
Hopefully
You gotta hedge your bets there at the end after the halo video lol still great watch
In all honesty, the only reason I got an Xbox was to play Halo Infinite, which I ended up getting not very far in and haven’t touched in over a year. Were it not for that one game, I would have probably just gotten a PlayStation much sooner. Almost all of the games I actually have been dying to play (as a life-long Nintendo loyalist) are PlayStation exclusives, or available on both PlayStation and Xbox but not Switch.
This was interesting as this was my first time front row for a panic caused by a baseless rumor.
Congrats on pretty discussion on the matter. Honestly yeah im in the camp of staying with Xbox evem if its only exclusive is gamepass. Because yeah i want to play good games at a reasonable price, thats it. Sony doesn't make games for people like me anyway so its admittedly not a hard choice.
In general im not sure exclusives function like they used to in the current market place.😊
You can do a video on how Windows on ARM could change things for PC (customizability, gaming)
No more exclusives? Yeah right tell Nintendo that.
SBI controversy has just put the last nail in the coffin for Xbox.
I think if everything does end up cross platform again, we’ll just get a video games version of the streaming service war. “Only on Xbox gamepass”
Nintendo gonna be only one left in the end with actual exclusives
pc & mobile are part of the ecosystem
I've had every xbox since the og and i bought a series x a couple years ago and it is definitely my last xbox. There is literally no reason to have one anymore all two of the big exclusives are dead (gears and halo) and all of the new and fresh ip's are sony/pc only. MS is shaping up to be the new EA
Bro, I am quite confused with the sentiments, I come from the perspective of a casual gamer, I play once a week typically, I am able to play with my friends, able to play a lot of good games I like on gamepass and have a whole list of games to play, and am excited for the future to plag the Indiana Jones Game, the Starfield DLC, and the new doom game, while I am not representative of everyone, I do feel that console is no where close to dead, though playstation has been looking quite nice with GOW and Spiderman 2.
If only there was an option that wasn't a console...
We would not have this conversation if Xbox exclusives are 9/10 good game of the year winners
Oh, Phil was right. PS and Xbox are going full multi platform. Both have said they are leaving too much money on the table for them to not branch out.
BABE WAKE UP NEW WHIMSU VIDEO
Thanks for reminding me of State of Decay 3 lol forgot it was happening.
I bought a PSP instead of a DS just because of the GTA Liberty City and Vice City Stories. I probably wouldn't of otherwise. It's why I think if the Playstation Vita had GTA San Andreas Stories developed for it that it would have succeeded way more in sales, enough perhaps for more games to be developed and thus lived longer. I didn't buy a Vita because there was no game on it I cared for. Instead I got a 3DS.
Regardless of where you stand, Microsoft stepping away would be terrible for everyone. At that point, Sony would have a monopoly.
Sony would 100% abuse that, just as Microsoft would do the same if Sony up and died.
I'm a playstation man and I'm sad to see Xbox is this situation I'm a true gamer I enjoyed many games on Xbox
My XBOX is just working fine, thanks.
0:34 wrong
when it is console wars will end with sony winning news those rumors are NEVER forgotten
I feel like xbox will pull an early access and have cod release a week early and then have it release "day one"
Also on a side note how do people say starfield launched day one on game pass when they were doing early access. If they only barrier to entry is money then that's not day one.
I think the Xbox is gonna become a subscription box unfortunately
Cool
So this is how Innovation dies...with thunderous applause
I don't like the idea of Xbox leaving, but it makes sense for [big corporation] whose goal is [money ak yak yak yak yak!]
Gamepass makes profits, Xbox systems sell at a loss.
Xbox audience big, PlayStation and Nintendo audiences even bigger.
Bigger audience, bigger profit.
those all digital Xboxs give off "if Stadia was actually good" vibes, so if anything, they're going to use Microsofts bread and butter (Windows) and other platforms like PlayStation and Switch to maximise profits.
Hopefully this doesn't mean Sony's going to start charging Apple prices for their cut-down PCs though.
Hopefully people stop buying PC's with governors installed and just stick with real PC's from now on. Consoles have been obsolete for over a decade
multi platform?? no more console exclusives?? that just sounds like a fucking PC to me!! ya know a pc that charges you to play online.. Thinking about it god damn I've saved alot of money since switching to PC in 2013
Hasn't Microsoft always been releasing ON PC and Steam?
Since 1980s
I somehow vine blinded this till now
Without exclusives Nintendo would be gone before the Wii era.
Xbox should be a line of budget gaming pcs like a non portable steam deck that runs windows
Exclusives might not be as important as they once were, but it does contribute to the long term success of a console. Even in something as ubiquitous as a smartphone, Apple offers features that only work within its ecosystem for this exact reason. The Xbox has to offer something. Who knows, maybe in the next gen, Game Pass will be a lot more powerful than we realize. Especially with the slow death of real exclusives.
Console exclusivity is senseless, and those fighting for it are misguided. As consumers, we lose nothing; everything remains exactly the same. Furthermore, those claiming that Xbox will fail are mistaken; Xbox is owned by the wealthiest company in the world. I would like to compare Xbox to Embracer and believe their acquisition strategies were similar. The difference is, if Embracer has a bad year, studios get closed, and games like Deus Ex get canceled, whereas Microsoft, being the largest company in the world, sees failure as an opportunity to try again. Remember, Microsoft's motto is "Embrace, extend, and extinguish." We need to start viewing Xbox as a formidable competitor, not as a wounded animal. It's important to recognize that the games industry is open. Unlike the Android and iOS markets, where only those two remained after the dust settled, the gaming market is still worth billions and growing, with three platform holders-and if we include PC, that makes four. Microsoft will never leave the gaming market; there's too much money to be made. As gamers, we need to stop defending Microsoft, Sony, and Nintendo blindly and hold them accountable for their practices in the market. Exclusivity is foolish. If it were up to me, every platform would have every game, compelling these platforms to find innovative ways to attract customers instead of relying on exclusivity.
This is ignoring the huge, obvious fact that seperates Nintendo/PlayStation/Xbox from other studios… they need to sell a box on top of just a game. Because of that, they have in-house studios where they’re putting more time/effort/money into making marquee games worth spending $300-500+ on. There’s a lot more pressure so they invest more into those. If they didn’t have to sell those boxes, there wouldn’t be that pressure wouldn’t have to push as hard.
Games at the end of the day, are what matter most. You can talk about “selling on features, not exclusives” all you want, but there’s no feature these days they you could add that would be so monumentally important for people to buy one box instead of another. This isn’t the 80’s where one console has much better graphics, or another has a different sound chip. Virtually everything is equal. Even if you want to say “but the Switch!” even that doesn’t count. It’s a handheld. A more powerful handheld, but handhelds have always existed. It’s just that technology advanced enough to make it more appealing to adults. And here’s the thing… if a feature (hardware or software) is important enough… all (or at least PlayStation/Xbox) are going to have it. There was no chance you were going to have one console with say an SSD and the other with an HDD. That sort of difference would have existed decades ago, but now that all three have been solidified in the market for a decade or more, they’re going to be virtually identical. Because developers are going to ask for XYZ, and they don’t want their competitor’s console to have an edge in whether it can play most games. The only thing left you could add would be gimmicks that are easily forgettable and have no real impact on purchases. Like, ray-tracing is cool and all, but if Xbox had it and PlayStation didn’t, it wouldn’t suddenly move more Xbox’s. These aren’t features people really care about. And the irony is that most people I see complain about console exclusivity, are PC players that were never going to buy a console, yet still want those exclusives. Any other features they could possibly have would never actually win them over because “I can already do that on PC”. So arguing from hat position is both dumb and disingenuous. It implies they actually would bite if there was some super special feature, but they never were going to. It’s basically the same as those kids complaining Nintendo is “doomed” will/should go third party because “they suck”… just so they can play Mario on PlayStation.
Sony needs to stop fucking up so much. Nintendo fanboys will be eternally vindicated for their beliefs because literally 90% of the big competition can't stop falling over themselves and self imploding. Nintendo nuking the fuck out of its community barely holds a candle to Bethesda, EA, Ubisoft, or Activision's behavior every single day.
A New Generation of the Console war is for the Handheld PCs like Steam Deck, R.O.G. Ally, & Legion Go.
Most of us cant aford those so thats why we use consoles, instead of expensive pcs and handheld
@@benferris2764I think the cheapest steam deck is less expensive or close to the same price as a ps5
@@russellwestbrook462Cheapest Steam Deck is $50 cheaper than PS5 Digital.
Switch pro...
I thought maybe the Series X would be their last console but if we take them at their word about the “biggest leap”, it could effectively be the same thing. They make a super expensive console which is more or less just a mid gaming PC, they aren’t competing with PS6 anymore exactly. They release it in hopes that it will last longer than a traditional console, keep their brand recognition, all the while expanding their multi platform offerings. Basically, Xbox becomes Alienware.
Maybe they'll try the cloud thing again? Connection speeds have progressed quite a lot since 2013 and they could technically make the "biggest leap" by leveraging servers. Can't imagine they'd release a super expensive console and lock out a large chunk of the player base though.
@@wamba2097 That’s the thing though, if there aren’t exclusives and mostly everything is through gamepass, are they really locking anyone out with releasing an expensive “ultra console”? I am skeptical of who exactly it would appeal to, but I guess that depends on the specs. Including what exactly it supports. I’m imagining basically a gaming PC with some modified/simplified version of Windows running, so it could support regular PC gaming if one wanted.
HUGE POINT: GamePass will be exclusive to Xbox consoles
And PC, Meta Quest VR, Tablets and Phones.
Thats why Xbox is bigger than ps.
Microsoft has lost by default. Sony has basically become the Apple of consoles. They don't have to be the best anymore, just make a product that's expensive and thus exclusive. The general consumer wants a single product standard in their entertainment, not a mix of standards. Happened with movies and music already. Only problem is that there's a split between the markets for parents and their children, and it's making new parents mad when there's no kids games on their old PlayStation console. Beyond the success of Nintendo being the thing you buy your kid, the general market, who are not enthusiasts, do not care for alternatives. They don't _want_ competition, only the consequences of it (lower costs, improved product). They do not care to actually support it.
The general consumer (who again, is not an enthusiast) will be upset when things get worse if Sony stops pretending they have to compete at all. Neither of the big three are your friend, but they'll pretend to be if they have to for sales. They will treat the customer like absolute garbage if they think they can get your money and get away with the behaviour. Sony was going to try it with the PS3 at launch, Microsoft thought they were in the position to do it when they announced the Xbox One, and Nintendo meanwhile is still not cutting the prices on their games or Switch hardware, and the launch of the N64 Expansion Pack was an expensive trainwreck that _still made money_ - they'll do it again and charge you a premium to experience it. Microsoft is the only one currently in the position to need to be nice, and being nice is not working - I run a used game store that deals with the "literally anything that doesn't end up at a GameStop first because consumers are lazy even if they complain that GameStop sucks" part of games and hardware, and *every god damn day I am open I have to tell people I won't stock a new PlayStation 5* for numerous reasons - #1 being that it costs money to sell because its distribution cost is the MSRP price of the console minus $1.99, and no, shipping isn't free. It's never a question about an Xbox Series - neither the S nor X. People want a PlayStation and every time I asked someone in 2021, 2022, and 2023 why they wanted one, I got answers that didn't make any sense - like making old games run faster. Which wasn't what was going to happen, especially when they mentioned owning a PS4 Pro in the same sentence. They wanted a _PlayStation_ and the status of being able to own the shiny *expensive* new one.
There's no market for consoles right now like there's no market for smartphones. Some people are always going to buy the expensive-thing-mistaken-for-rich-thing-specifically-for-poor-people status symbol brands, in the case of Apple and Sony, the Gucci and Louis Vuitton of hardware, regardless of if it's good or not, because the function of the device is irrelevant. If it's good - great. Customer gets their moneys worth (hopefully, anyway) and a product that actually competes in function. If it's trash - it literally doesn't matter, it will sell by name alone, and the customer will learn to appreciate that they paid for absolute garbage. Customer has the expensive thing, and if you argue with them, then you'll get a "you're clearly too broke to understand it anyway". Smartphones have different markets by region, such as how India has an entirely separate demand for what they want in a smartphone (namely two physical SIM cards being basically mandatory for success there), but unlike a smartphone or a vehicle, a game console isn't mandatory in any region. It's entertainment; a luxury. Which means if it's a non functional luxury, it's still luxury.
Microsoft tried to beat Sony with compute power in 2001. It didn't work. Most of the PlayStation 2 systems were sold as DVD players though, so the numbers would have to somehow account for that information, but the amount of PS2 games you'll find in any used game store is going to be something like 2:1 PS2 to Xbox.
Microsoft tried to beat Sony by launching first in 2005. It sort of worked, as far as I am concerned the PS3 appears to have outsold the Xbox 360 at the end of its life because at the time the concept of "streaming device for pirated and cloud media (Netflix)" wasn't handled by an android box yet (because it couldn't) - if you don't believe me, look at the android box market currently, and how many people just use that for Plex, or Jellyfin, or whatever pirated service they get pre-installed from some random person they were recommended, or perhaps just Netflix. Or just look at how many people have Smart TVs now for streaming. Some people point to hardware failures of the Xbox 360, but Microsoft eventually allowed no-questions-asked recalls on the 360 (I've been told they replaced both out of warranty systems, and even systems that had been opened. Even ones that had been opened to modify the DVD ROM. No questions asked.), Sony told users to take a hike if their PS3 died after 13 months - if anything the PlayStation 3 would have outsold the Xbox 360 if their first-console ownership happened to be 1:1 between 2006 and 2010.
Microsoft tried to (unwisely) beat Sony in 2013 by targeting multimedia consumers with the Xbox One, which I still assume was some market survey turning up information that may have been accurate in consumer base but not accurate for a demographic to target with a _video game_ console.
The Xbox Series has Dolby Vision support (albeit last I heard, there was an issue with it crushing it from RGB to YUV then back to RGB when set to output RGB via HDMI for true HDR, hopefully that is a software issue they fixed) unlike the PS5 (last I heard anyway), they have the dev mode to support independent development and emulation - the latter of which sounds like a waste of time to many users, but let me tell you, the *average customer* just wants to play their favourite retro games and has no clue how - they're uninformed and their eyes glaze over if you try to explain how to do it on a PC. The amount of people who come to ask me about the absolute trash AliExpress-special hardware that emulates games horribly but get ads spammed on Facebook - if you replaced the contents of those ads with "here's an HDD pre-loaded with games (for the same price), here's a piece of paper with a QR code linking to instructions on how to install this cool thing on the console you already have, and then you can play over twelve thousand games!" they'd be sold. For the enthusiast market, I have genuinely heard of people using their Xbox Series to play emulated Dreamcast games *online* against other people, like SEGA's 2K sports titles.
I've seen people make off-handed remarks about how the Series S is outselling the Series X but I think it may be more on the fact that people buying the S may be looking for better value right now. No, the Series S doesn't support physical games, but with the console coming with a GamePass voucher, it sounds like it'd be a pretty compelling deal that Sony is too afraid to give a customer. Gotta remember that Sony told EA to climb a tree over EA Play back in the day, claiming it "wasn't the kind of value Sony's customers were looking for" which, personally, has always sounded like either an insult to their customers or a really, really poor excuse to dismiss competition for PS+.
PC is the entire market and anyone who buys a console is just playing with cute little toys
@@xraceboyex If you want to use your PC on a TV with a controller, IMO Steam's Big Picture UI still sucks. That being said, I'm not fan of the Xbox One UI nor the PlayStation 4's home screen interface.
Idk lol
It definitely is!!! The floodgates are open. Microsoft Use the exact same words when they started putting games to PC it’s only one game, it’s a year old, it’s an experiment. How did that work out for them now everything is on PC. There is zero chance I’m buying an Xbox next generation. I’ll get the next PlayStation and whatever Nintendo releases.
Microsoft should have multiple manufacturers make a new Xbox and call it the MSX 3.
I hate using the PlayStation controller. HATE IT.
Get a PC and you can use literally any controller you want and have access to all the games on every generation of console, for like the same price. You people frustrate PC gamers so much lmao
I think this whole ABK attention put a huge spotlight on these console marketplaces and the Fed ain’t having it. Sony & Xbox are showing signs of having to pivot and as usual Microsoft is preemptively appeasing the powers that be. Sony has announced their intentions to diversify into third party sales to generate more margin where as Nintendo remains cryptic in all this.
The thing is that the leaker might have been completely right at the time
And then Microsoft saw the fanboys reaction and decided it's not the right time yet for that move
As an xbox gamer I feel like I should just dip off the platform, I will be eventually able to play all the Xbox games on another platform with even more exclusives
You've been able to play all the xbox games, and all the playstation games, on a PC for over three decades - with reverse compatibility all the way back to Gen 1... Consoles make PC gamers heads hurt...
@@xraceboyex emulation isn’t perfect and not all systems have been able to emulated until recently also a lot of PC ports are straight shit that can’t even be fixed correctly like saints row 2. Also consoles are a vibe having a real N64 hits good sometimes in ways an emulator can’t, especially so for other consoles like a 3DS or something unique like that. I do emulate myself and have gamed on PC for over decade as well and I still enjoy the simplicity of a console from time to time and actually owning a physical game.
The games will not go to Xbox tho but Nintendo yes I can bet they already scraping Spider-Man and lowering the graphics to run it
they are going to experiment with some games at first then probably release all new games to all platforms because gamepass hasnt gained any subscribers since 2022 soo they are going to wait a little and look is they make more money if ther release some games that are not on playstaton the if they make more money that way the probably will release every new game on all platforms and remasters of old games on all platforms and there are a ton of players that havent experienced the older xbox exclusives on other platforms and and then they will start making alot of remasters of older games like fable or the older halo games so the other players on playstation get a taste of the games they have been missing out on for all the these years and xbox will eventualy die and will probably be a game publisher that also makes harware that you can play games on
People blew the whole thing out of proportion so badly...
So basically Nintendo is the only company still making games so good that are reasons to buy their consoles? Go figure why, it's probably not because their games are fun and well-made whilst not costing 300 million dollars to make, surely it isn't cause they don't buy studios and instead develop in house and/or hire other studios to help out.
Seeing how ive fully swapped over from playing xbox to having a pc, id say its dead for me
I think we can all thank companies like Sweet baby Inc for bringing the flow of games to a screeching halt after shackling the market with so much ESG garbage
oh god not Sweet Baby Inc, I have like vietnam flashbacks to their slop work on GVH
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