I feel like I need to preface this here because some new viewers don't understand; my avatar in this video is meant to try replicate the way John draws human characters, it's supposed to be creepy lol. It's not my actual avatar.
@@hazbinhotelchannel3723 Why shouldn't he? Its nostalgia. People still talk about NES and SNES games in 2019. Nostalgia critic used to talk about old movies until he ran out of movies. Why not cartoons?
It's very strange because a lot of people loved Ren and Stimpy, and yet, John hated those people despite being fans. For example, Robin Williams wanted to guest star in an episode and John told him to "f**k off." He also criticized Animaniacs without even watching the show itself.
Also, apparently the late Richard Williams, the animation director of "Who Framed Roger Rabbit" and director of "The Thief and the Cobbler" loved Ren and Stimpy and wanted to be a guest on the show. John K declined, and called him a f*g.
@Frizzurd Turns out I was wrong the first time around. I don't think RICHARD Williams ever asked to guest on "Ren and Stimpy", and that it was actually ROBIN Williams. I got the names confused. From what I've read, John didn't like Robin Williams, finding his comedy lifeless. That just boggles the mind!
Hollywood is filled with wierdos & nutbar divas. I've dealt with a few who are way out there 🙄. To the point that producers, prodco, studio execs avoid them. 🤦🏼♂️.
Oh god, I remember the head of Animaniacs bringing that up when most of the shit about John came out and the way he put it, he was REALLY upset. Not MAD upset but just really disappointed, sad upset. Like he wanted to get along with John and support him but John was the one pushing him away.
Ugh, i don't even want to imagine what a SpongeBob adult party cartoon would look like, Stephen Hellenburg was a smart man I'm glade he said no to that offer.
@@azsfloette9153 NO I DON'T! Look, I'm going to explain it to you so simple, that even you brainless slugs can understand it. Nickelodeon fired John Kricfalusi in 1992. Right? Right! And according to one of his victim's allegations, he started pursuing her in 1994. Right? Right! Oh, and look at this! A tweet from that same victim! I wonder what it says! facebook.com/SickLittleMonkeys/photos/a.142092785932377/1113534065454906/?type=3&theater Don't you feel stupid now!
I’ve met Bob Camp at a convention!! He’s so nice and gave me more insight on this. He told me when John got fired, he told Bob finish the show and you have my blessing. He later did interviews and told others that Bob got him fired! Bob said he was so hurt he would lie like that. Nickelodeon is reviving all these original shows and he’s afraid Ren and Stimpy will never be revived because of John. He says explicitly that John is not a good man and his behavior is why ren and stimpy failed. He acknowledged that John is very talented but sometimes talent isn’t enough...
Ren & Stimpy Production Music I don’t think he will. He’s an animation professor in NY I think. But you can tell he’s very passionate about Ren and Stimpy. When I took a pic with him he even said “say happy happy joy joy!” He’s a delightful man. I think John may have some mental issues as well and he won’t address them.
The original had its charm, the adult party was a complete abomination, I mean you can be worse than ren sicks helps, and even though I'm against all kind of censorship, this makes me think about it
What made the original so great was how it flipped off the censors, but in APC, there was no more censors to flip off, so that made it less funny because in the original they had to get creative to dodge the watchful eyes of censorship.
My thoughts on John K: I absolutely agree that cartoons should be more creator-driven. His opinion on cartoons in the 80s, he does have a point. But, him abusing those who worked for him. Just no. I will admit, he did have a shitty childhood, with him and his brother abused by his father, but that's no excuse for doing the same thing to those who worked for him. If I were him, I'd do anything to ensure that all people who worked for me were treated with respect.
I’m not exactly saying that what he did was right. But I don’t think you should be able to say “If I were him” if you haven’t actually went through what he did.
He's the same person who shat on Disney movies, Animaniacs and many cartoons out of jealusy, was a jerk with voice actors, abused his animators and it's better if we don't bring up his relationships with underaged girls who he almost raped. He has good ideas, but he's not a good person in the slightest. His childhood can't justify these actions.
If I were him I'd pay more respect to the people who are able to do what I can't, I'd still keep the standards high, but I wouldn't be a dick about it, and not be a creep (but that goes without saying)
Fire Dogs 2 was actually supposed to be John recounting his experiences working under Ralph Bakshi back in the day. The fire chief was already based on Bakshi in the original episode, but in the sequel, they just decided to literally make him Ralph (they even got Ralph to do the voice). Basically, it's one big in-joke.
@@kieranstark7213 I wish Ralph could've knocked some sense into him before it was too late. Ralph: "Johnny-Boy, the fuck are you doing? You don't touch kids, Johnny! That's fucking sick!"
I would pay good money to see Ralph beat the shit out of John. Going back based on animat's animation look back for Ralph Bakshi, John was the reason why Mighty Mouse did that weird sniff thing that led to it getting canceled. A good slap is way overdue.
I'm just tickled pink that at the same point in time, Billy West was voice acting in something as wholesome as Doug and something as vulgar as Ren and Stimpy.
Love the original, hate APC and the creator. Theres tons of other people on the team that made the show as good as it was. It's just John who held the team together, hence the lower quality of the games eps. Mind you, they're still really good.
Part of it too was their budget shrank. Less money and less time to do episodes. You have to remember john k regularly went over his time schedule and the budget as well as makinfstuff the network couldnt air. The final straw was the mans best friend clip.when the higher ups saw it they knew there wasn't okay on hell the censors would allow that on tv and he wanted who knows how much time making the clip.
Original show was clearly a team work, it worked because it had other talented people involved, John himself isn't very valuable, his other show (the super heroes one) is a POS like him
@@th3azscorpio the account about mans best friend was told to me by Bob camp. From his account it was that plus all the times john k missed deadlines and went over budget which has been a running theme of john k for the last 25 years.
@@nubreed13 Oh word? I can trust that... Yeah, the folks who donated to John K's Kickstarter shouldn't have been very surprised, given his track record. John K is pretty much a victim of his own ego, and shitty work ethic; which is really sad, given that such an amazing show, and such creative talent was wasted on him.
The reason why the Fire Man randomly turns into a fat man in Fire Dogs 2, is because the fat man Fire Man variant in that episode was based on Ralph Bakshi, an underground cartoonist animator who was prolific in the late 1960's and 1970's. Ralph Bakshi was also John K's former boss. They worked together on the Mighty Mouse reboot from the 1980's. It was often told by both that they had a "Space Sprocket/George Jetson" chemistry where Ralph would hire/fire John. The things you see the Fire Man do in Fire Dogs 2 is based on things Ralph allegedly did in real life, so Fire Dogs 2 is like an in-joke, that most audiences were not aware of.
Mighty Mouse got very in-jokey at the end. Almost every episode had a reference to Ralph in there. Once or twice he was inspiration for the episode's villain design. Sometimes they'd have episodes that were most likely cutting costs, like Scappy the orphan sneaking into a theater and ruining old Terrytoons filmstrips and him commenting over the old 50s footage. One of them was Scrappy remembering past events, which were a lot of scenes from older episodes. Except the dialogue in the clips were sometimes dubbed with some jewish voice that was often out of sync? I'll never get it. I'm sure they found it hilarious. Mighty Mouse was a clever show. The best episode was where they ripped on Alvin and the Chipmunks for 11 minutes. Although look up the "Twitch and Writhe" clip and just by looking at those (probably) teen girls, you can tell John drew it. It was obvious from the beginning. I'm not sure how no one noticed.
I remember him complaining in the Beach Party Frenzy opening that he was rarely allowed to draw "sexy girls" for the cartoons, and only got some to slip through or something like that. Which means he was implying that all those sexualised teen girls were hot in his eyes. He might as well have worn a button saying "I'M INTO HEBEPHILIA" because he sucked at hiding it.
The main problem with John K is when he is in charge he doesn't show up to work. His artistic vision isn't what delayed the staff, it was because he was never there to tell them what to do and they couldn't start until he came back because he always made them redo everything. Even during the Adult Party Cartoon there would be days where he just didn't show up and they had to meet a deadline and so they just made the show without him. He would rather just rant online about how bad everyone is instead of actually working. He was hired twice to make R&S and failed both times.
Adult Party Cartoon suffered from the same thing most "adult" cartoon shows do in that it throws literally everything gross and offensive at the viewer in lieu of actual entertainment. That's why people love the original more, because it wasn't hyper-focused on trying to be "adult". Lots of the most well-loved jokes from the series---Mr. Horse's paranoid rant followed by the walrus whispering "Call the pol-eeeeeeese" in Rubber Nipple Salesmen for example---had zero gross-out humor or anything offensive, it was all in the voice-acting delivery and animation.
Why I never liked that animated Comedy Central show "Drawn Together". Perfect example of an adult-themed cartoon that tries *way too hard* to be edgy and over-the-top. Feels so forced.
Ren and Stimpy Adult Party truly is awful. I watched the entire run of Ren and Stimpy from the Nickelodeon days a few years back. It was hysterical, the delivery, the comedy, the timing everything, as a product it was great, as an employee it must've been heel. So I was excited when I found out there was a "sequel", adult party show (time? Jamboree? Hour?) And watched the first episode. It was also the last one. When the show was on Nickelodeon there was an edge to the show, something pushing the boundaries of what is permited "technically" and pass through the censors. It was unlike anything before, as you said it, the nipple episode for instance. So when you have a boundary stopping you and you push it, it feels special, like what you're watching is wrong. It's fun. Now when you have total freedom to do whatever, there's no boundary, there's no limit, you can do whatever, so there's no pushing anything, "yeah of course you can watch this, you're an adult, we trust you to be okay with watching this" so what's left with the show? Gross humor, shocking humor, sex humor, but if there's no substance to it, it just feels pointless, like a kid in high school who says the N word to shock people, pointless and immature. Not that Ren And Stimpy back in Nick was mature, had poignant commentary or something like it, but it knew what could be funny with little, knew its audience and played with that. Whenever I watch a Ren and Stimpy episode now, I feel like a kid again, watching it during the night and kinda hiding it from my parents, it makes me feel like that gross weird childish humor from when I was young, an immature show for immature kids, and it made me feel like an immature kid again. Adult Party Shenanigans doesn't, it makes me feel like an adult watching a childish show aimed at adults with nothing to show but crudeness. That's why the original will forever remain a classic and the other one forgotten.
@@Naruto_from_the_Naruto_show No prob👌 The part where you mention feeling like watching something do wrong, in seeing adult jokes in a kids show, really hits me. Brings back such wonderful memories.
9:30 I wouldn't say that Stephen allowed a spin-off for Spongebob, It was announced after he died. Nick pretty much pulled the plans from under the rug before Stephen could have a say so and deny any of this from happening.
@Myka Ruest I honestly didn't like spongebob all that much and I was forced to watch it bc of my younger cousin, but I'm not gonna deny the huge impact it had in media, and for it to get flushed down the toilet and abused by nick at this point rather than Hillenberg's vision is sad.
@@75JUNAKI you bet your bottom dollar. Blameitonjorge did a mini doc on it. It's called "The Legacy of Spongebob SquarePants". Downright evil and in poor taste.
1) John K. is a despicable human being. 2) He lifted much of what makes his "style" memorable from other artists. 3) The Games Animation episodes were fine. 4) Adult Party Cartoon is _exactly_ as trash as people say, and it proves that John K. wasn't as crucial to Ren & Stimpy's success as he wants people to believe.
Video Con: When LS Mark said that people get too worked up over Adult Party Cartoon (yet he said in an exaggerant way that it is awful) Pros: Everything else
Personally I feel like the show was less creative when it became adult party cartoon. Well sure being an adult party cartoon means that they don't have to limit themselves as to what they can show. But when they were under Nickelodeon they had to get creative with how they push the boundaries.
You don’t understand how complex this anime gets when Ren finally impregnates Stimpy. The extra lore and nods to the source material John Kricfalusi adds can only be understood by TRUE fans like me!
The “different character” the fire chief turns into in Fire Dogs 2 is Ralph Bakshi, if you don’t know, Ralph was the guy who made Fritz the Cat and Cool World, as well as Mighty Mouse where John K also worked on and even became Ralph’s protege
John K and Nickelodeon needed each other. Nick forced John to be creative with his gross-out humor, and that's why the OG episodes were so good. Without that constant supervision, APC was a vile mess. It was never made to appease the Nick fans - it was always for the Spumco community. Let it rot in a festering spitoon.
I wouldn't mind John's insanity if it wasn't for the way he treats his colleagues and fellow animators. Seriously if a cartoon wasn't made by him, he would constantly shit-talk it and come up with conspiracies of how the creative teams are part of some corporate cabal to destroy creativity. Stuff like Batman TAS, Spongebob, Animaniacs, The Iron Friggin Giant. Fuck he's the one that started the whole Cal-Art phrase because he thinks characters looking kinda similar is part of Disney and Hanna-Barbera's plan to rule the world or some shit like that.
I remember being so excited when I heard this was coming out while I was in middle school.... then I watched it. I don't think I even hated it I just felt sorry for it.
I know this is a 2 year old video but here is my story about the Adult Party stuff. To preface, I was born in 1994. Back when I was like 9 years old (I have a bad memory but I believe it was then) my mom had met my step dad. Now, I already had a previous step dad (don’t worry, I still stayed with my real dad too) but my previous step dad was… let’s just say: not that great. But I was a young kid and I was just happy to see my mom happy. But I didn’t know how this new person in my mom’s life would be like for her, and especially for me. But the one thing that made me bond with my step dad almost immediately was ren and stimpy. I had always watched reruns on tv but never got to see a bunch of new episodes, I really only watched a handful that I could catch here and there. But he had the dvds for like the first 2 seasons I believe. We watched the whole set all in one go, laughing our faces off. Quoting the show constantly. And that is my first and favorite memory of my step dad. But when adult party stuff came out, we were excited to see new ren and stimpy stuff! Granted I was like 15 or 16 now when we finally got a dvd and watched it and…. Boy… did we just not have a happy happy joy joy time. It felt so weird to watch and everything. We still have the dvd but we shutter at the thought of it.
Hey LS Mark; do you know just WHO the fire chief turned into in the episode "Fire Dogs 2"? That "different character" is, as Part 2 of the episode says, "Ralph Bakshi, the world's greatest cartoonist!" The episode wasn't making fun of fat people at all; creator John K used to work Ralph Bakshi on Mighty Mouse: The New Adventures, and Bakshi saved John K.'s career in animation at the time. In point of fact, that Mighty Mouse reboot was what really started the cartoonist-driven renaissance of the '90s-even more so than Ren & Stimpy, which people often think is what started that animation renaissance in the first place. Before Ren & Stimpy and after Mighty Mouse (Bakshi), John K & Sody Clampett also did a reboot of Beany & Cecil which included top talent like Dan Haskett and Michael Lah! Anyway, Ralph Bakshi is the ground-breaking animation guy behind The Lord of the Rings (1978), Cool World (1992), Fire and Ice (1983), Wizards (1977), and Malcolm and Melvin (Cartoon Network pilot). As an animation reviewer, you should at least know about Ralph Bakshi, and you might like looking into his stuff.
I think the problem people had with adult party cartoon was mainly Ren seeks help. Don't get me wrong. There is plenty of mean spirited gross cartoons but majority of them are edgy for he sake of being edgy. They also usually look like shit. Here you have a whole episode focusing on gross abuse that is well animated and seems like the abuse is fetishized. The quality and intent matters when it comes to presenting themes. and good quality with disturbing intent can gross people out more than any amount of puke or blood.
Ren & Stimpy was such lightning in a bottle. Like The Beatles, I think John's team just fed off one another, and all were excited. Yet, I think John was torn between acting like his mentor Ralph Bakshi, and being a smooth hipster. Bakshi, as crazy as he was - had a vision for his end products. Gruff New Yorker, yes. But I think really cared for those that delivered and made his visions come true. John I think became more the "Steve Jobs" - give it style, promise, and cram it down peoples throats. Whereas Ren & Stimpy was more "Give it something, and let's see what happens?". He kinda started that way with The Ripping Friends as well. But again, had no real vision for the "end product". It's too bad, as John K. is truly a creative madman. But to survive on that reputation alone...?
@@JoseGonzalez-rh3pz Damn. I'm actually not sure how I feel about this. Especially if Bob Camp is not on board. It'll be a wokefest reimagining, and an unfunny one. Ren and Stimpy stood against everything the current PC culture stood for. I'm cautiously optimistic, but after the dismal success, and appeal of prior reboots, I'm leaning more towards a hard pass.
@@th3azscorpio So far Bob's wrote that he'll be shocked if he gets a call to work on it, so I wouldnt doubt if your intuition turns out to be right. Def hard pass for me too
9:31 dude it's nickelodeon who made those spinoffs, they did it after Mr. Hillenburg died. I'm glad the Spongebob adult party cartoon never happened, I hope they arrest John K.
I have to say 2 when I bought adult party on DVD I was laughing so hard. I've never seen this happen with any other children's cartoon and to see them this way was so new and funny to me. Looking back on the behind-the-scenes stuff it is a little awkward before I thought it was very inspiring to hear how things worked in the industry but John seems to be doing a lot of bitching and everyone just looked so uncomfortable lol
Spike TV: Hey let's do spongebob *tries to grab him* Spongebob: *screams* NOOOOOOO!!!!! Stephen: *Beats up Spike and saves Spongebob* Never talk to me or my child again! Spike TV: *Crys and die*
I think the reason the Adult Party version of the show was hated rather then just seen as "Meh" is kind of the same reason that a good chunk of sonic fans find a lot of modern games awful despite them being pretty "okay" games. They keep enough core components around to make them very very recognizable. Characters, themes, a familiar setting ect. can ring a lot in nostalgia. So when people hear that a new Ren and Stimpy show is coming out people already have expectations for it, for better or worse. Like a lot of people say, its not that grossout was new to the show, it was just done in an extreme way since there wasn't as much pushback from the people they were working for given it was an adult show. So even though the IDEAS were similar in style the way its done can sit differently with people. (Like i find the creepy closeups of spongebob to be super funny while the "Squidward stubs his toenail" is fucking gross). stuff like that can be relevant to shows like this as well. even if it "Seems" to be almost the same thing the vibe of the grossout changes or in the case of the frog episode the dark tones can sit different as well even if the first show also has dark tones. Like in modern games sonic still runs fast and destroys robots but it wouldn't be hard to argue that Sonic 1 has a different vibe then Sonic Lost Worlds (besides the shift from 2D to 3D). you can also point out changes like this in other things that happen to last a long time or get rebooted. BUT there are series that happen to do this in good ways, sonic was just a good example of a series that i like the older stuff more but don't any longer due to story and gameplay changes. It also happens to bother me more because ive played the games forever and i want them to be something i like (but thats another rant) Though this is just all my opinion i'm sure people hate it for different reasons then this but that's just something i've noticed. This is just one way something can be almost like the old thing but also not really.
Hey great video, but I honestly couldn't disagree more! The adult party cartoon was a disturbing and disgusting show! Seriously, Ren Seeks Help was TERRIBLE!
Some of the original show’s episodes such as A Visit to Anthony, Reverend Jack, Stimpy’s Cartoon Show and Son of Stimpy showcase how much of a despicable man he truly is.
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Old Nickelodeon was amazing i especially love courage the cowardly dog it was so creepy if you have seen the return the slab guy you know what I'm talking about
I’ve never watched an episode of the original Ren and Stimpy, but I have fully watched Ren Seeks Help out of sheer curiosity. Please kill me. I want to die so badly.
Actually, to explain that Fire Dogs episode in APC, John apparently wanted to get a guest appearance from the guy he used to work for - the father of pure adult animation himself, Ralph Bakshi. He just exaggerated his body type GREATLY. Which, by the way, Bakshi's films are actually fantastic to watch. Low budget, sure, but still some great experiences.
My problem with the show is how it takes the magic out of the original. The original pushed standards on what could air. It had a filter. With adult party cartoon, they can do whatever they want. Without it pushing standards and just being an adult cartoon, is it really Ren and Stimpy?
I really dislike when something is forced to be a rating like it has to have swearwords and gross out because its adult, Its why I liked ren and simpy and my favorite show of all time regular show because as a kid you can enjoy it but also as an adult you can get more and still enjoy it
The leaks for the new Ren and Stimpy reboot are online. From what I have seen it seems they are trying to be true to the spirit and style of the original series but also make a little updated. Its hard not to think of John K when watching but maybe it can go beyond the creator and be a fun take on the characters. Maybe the need comeback for a new generation
I hate it when people say all the show is is "pointless gross-out" when there's only a decent amount. There's also too much hate for the Games era which is still amazing
I feel like I need to preface this here because some new viewers don't understand; my avatar in this video is meant to try replicate the way John draws human characters, it's supposed to be creepy lol. It's not my actual avatar.
Shut up
why are you talking about this in 2019
@@hazbinhotelchannel3723 Why shouldn't he? Its nostalgia. People still talk about NES and SNES games in 2019. Nostalgia critic used to talk about old movies until he ran out of movies. Why not cartoons?
yeah.
Still looks bad.
It's very strange because a lot of people loved Ren and Stimpy, and yet, John hated those people despite being fans. For example, Robin Williams wanted to guest star in an episode and John told him to "f**k off." He also criticized Animaniacs without even watching the show itself.
Also, apparently the late Richard Williams, the animation director of "Who Framed Roger Rabbit" and director of "The Thief and the Cobbler" loved Ren and Stimpy and wanted to be a guest on the show. John K declined, and called him a f*g.
@@pneuma6202 Actually, he did somewhay show an article about what John did for a second
@Frizzurd Turns out I was wrong the first time around. I don't think RICHARD Williams ever asked to guest on "Ren and Stimpy", and that it was actually ROBIN Williams. I got the names confused. From what I've read, John didn't like Robin Williams, finding his comedy lifeless. That just boggles the mind!
Hollywood is filled with wierdos & nutbar divas. I've dealt with a few who are way out there 🙄. To the point that producers, prodco, studio execs avoid them. 🤦🏼♂️.
Oh god, I remember the head of Animaniacs bringing that up when most of the shit about John came out and the way he put it, he was REALLY upset. Not MAD upset but just really disappointed, sad upset. Like he wanted to get along with John and support him but John was the one pushing him away.
He's not quite in hiding but according to my friends, John K scopes out talent in colleges in the San Diego area
You should get Mark to make you a Ren and Stimpy version of your avatar
RebelTaxi and he still regularly replies to people in his Kickstarter Comment section
Looking for talent eh, I don’t like the sound of that...
"Talent".
That's one way to put it I guess.
It's weird how all the talent he picks up in colleges are very young attractice women.
Must have drawing skill in their hair or something.
I remember my Dad showing me that John K interview (the “cartoons for MEN!” one) and said;
“Don’t be like John K”.
Your dad is a good man
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Actually I always preferred CatDog
@@ingloriousMachina CatDog is underrated
@@PowerRangersFanAntiDinoFury cat dog is good but I always appreciated the charm that ren and stimpy (not the adult one fuck that one) had.
Ugh, i don't even want to imagine what a SpongeBob adult party cartoon would look like, Stephen Hellenburg was a smart man I'm glade he said no to that offer.
Good. Cause he wasn't a selfish bastard.
wouldn’t be surprised if they did that now though
@@kbscheme yeah especially since now there doing spinoffs of SpongeBob with the whole Kamp Koral thing and the Patrick Spinoff.
@@bluethesabertoothrat4892 The Patrick spinoff isnt even doing anything xD
I mean, an adult themed Spongebob spin-off that doesn’t involve him would be kinda cool, maybe a prequel story involving Mr. Krabs’s time in the war?
John k: *makes episodes based on fan requests
Me:so that's why they made stimpy pregnant
Wait what??? Now I need to know! 😂
@@SkittyDangerzne There was an Episode of APC where stimpy is pregnant, fetishes i know.
Why you don't always listen to your fans.
It's a common trope for Nick, I guess
@@vandyckaldo Well technically he was constipated but his water broke too...
I wouldn’t think too hard on it.
Doctor: It's okay, Spumco Mark can't hurt you
Spumco Mark:
That name is so awesome.
I needed a Hi-Hi Puffy Ami Yumi reference in 2020. Thank you
John K and Dan Schneider sure got a business going
brandon roberts dan Schneider hasnt been seen online since last year
Nick: Why do I keep hiring pedophiles/sex offenders?
SuperMarcoToad64 Studios maybe it the logo. I think that explain much of it.
@@peterang78 Maybe
You mean Dan "Better Hide Her" Schneider?
“The fact that lsmark changes his style to the style of the cartoon makes me appreciate his attention to detail so much!”
*This video*
“Oh no....”
John: Yeah, I hooked up with at least 3 minors
Nick: Yea that’s cool lol
John: Hey, so the episodes not gonna be out on time
Nick: OUT
They held on to Dan Schneider for decades. It's not without precedent.
+??????
Nick was against traumatising kids, yet allowed its creators *TO TRAUMATISE KIDS*
Fuck you. Kricfalusi's pedophilia happened after he was fired, you shithole!
@@yosefdemby8792 We get it, you support pedophiles
@@azsfloette9153 NO I DON'T! Look, I'm going to explain it to you so simple, that even you brainless slugs can understand it.
Nickelodeon fired John Kricfalusi in 1992. Right? Right! And according to one of his victim's allegations, he started pursuing her in 1994. Right? Right!
Oh, and look at this! A tweet from that same victim! I wonder what it says! facebook.com/SickLittleMonkeys/photos/a.142092785932377/1113534065454906/?type=3&theater
Don't you feel stupid now!
I’ve met Bob Camp at a convention!! He’s so nice and gave me more insight on this. He told me when John got fired, he told Bob finish the show and you have my blessing. He later did interviews and told others that Bob got him fired! Bob said he was so hurt he would lie like that. Nickelodeon is reviving all these original shows and he’s afraid Ren and Stimpy will never be revived because of John. He says explicitly that John is not a good man and his behavior is why ren and stimpy failed. He acknowledged that John is very talented but sometimes talent isn’t enough...
Jesus Christ... I hope Bob gets to work on the new revival...
Ren & Stimpy Production Music I don’t think he will. He’s an animation professor in NY I think. But you can tell he’s very passionate about Ren and Stimpy. When I took a pic with him he even said “say happy happy joy joy!” He’s a delightful man. I think John may have some mental issues as well and he won’t address them.
The original had its charm, the adult party was a complete abomination, I mean you can be worse than ren sicks helps, and even though I'm against all kind of censorship, this makes me think about it
There's a reason that there are limitations to what you can put in a cartoon.
@@smashster1787 yup
What made the original so great was how it flipped off the censors, but in APC, there was no more censors to flip off, so that made it less funny because in the original they had to get creative to dodge the watchful eyes of censorship.
My thoughts on John K:
I absolutely agree that cartoons should be more creator-driven. His opinion on cartoons in the 80s, he does have a point. But, him abusing those who worked for him. Just no. I will admit, he did have a shitty childhood, with him and his brother abused by his father, but that's no excuse for doing the same thing to those who worked for him. If I were him, I'd do anything to ensure that all people who worked for me were treated with respect.
I’m not exactly saying that what he did was right. But I don’t think you should be able to say “If I were him” if you haven’t actually went through what he did.
He's the same person who shat on Disney movies, Animaniacs and many cartoons out of jealusy, was a jerk with voice actors, abused his animators and it's better if we don't bring up his relationships with underaged girls who he almost raped. He has good ideas, but he's not a good person in the slightest. His childhood can't justify these actions.
If I were him I'd pay more respect to the people who are able to do what I can't, I'd still keep the standards high, but I wouldn't be a dick about it, and not be a creep (but that goes without saying)
@@darkshat3077 Holy shit its the demon souls remake ost defender guy
@@thestrongestlivingcreature that’s me
0:02 8 year old me when my mom takes away my Nintendo DS
John when he sees a 16 year old
That's why you hide it under the pillow
@@cheesyquokka lol
*”45 year old me when my mom tells me to get off my game boy advance”*
Fire Dogs 2 was actually supposed to be John recounting his experiences working under Ralph Bakshi back in the day. The fire chief was already based on Bakshi in the original episode, but in the sequel, they just decided to literally make him Ralph (they even got Ralph to do the voice). Basically, it's one big in-joke.
*Ralph Bakshi punches John Kricfaluci in the face by going Super Saiyan*
@@kieranstark7213 I wish Ralph could've knocked some sense into him before it was too late.
Ralph: "Johnny-Boy, the fuck are you doing? You don't touch kids, Johnny! That's fucking sick!"
I think Mr. Bakshi really did do that towards John Kricfaluci. ;-)
I do wonder what Bakshi thinks about his protege turning out to be... you know. Did he have any idea or did he never know?
I would pay good money to see Ralph beat the shit out of John.
Going back based on animat's animation look back for Ralph Bakshi, John was the reason why Mighty Mouse did that weird sniff thing that led to it getting canceled. A good slap is way overdue.
I'm just tickled pink that at the same point in time, Billy West was voice acting in something as wholesome as Doug and something as vulgar as Ren and Stimpy.
you wish all human culture depended on your personal taste
When I was 6 I was at block buster and I accidentally got the adult party version and imagine my shock when I put it in the vcr
How did you parents not notice?
Vits Vicente Torres
Ikr?
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I feel bad for you
Love the original, hate APC and the creator. Theres tons of other people on the team that made the show as good as it was. It's just John who held the team together, hence the lower quality of the games eps. Mind you, they're still really good.
Part of it too was their budget shrank. Less money and less time to do episodes. You have to remember john k regularly went over his time schedule and the budget as well as makinfstuff the network couldnt air. The final straw was the mans best friend clip.when the higher ups saw it they knew there wasn't okay on hell the censors would allow that on tv and he wanted who knows how much time making the clip.
Original show was clearly a team work, it worked because it had other talented people involved, John himself isn't very valuable, his other show (the super heroes one) is a POS like him
@@nubreed13 For the love of God, stop spreading that lie! Mans best friend was not the reason John was fired.
@@th3azscorpio the account about mans best friend was told to me by Bob camp. From his account it was that plus all the times john k missed deadlines and went over budget which has been a running theme of john k for the last 25 years.
@@nubreed13 Oh word? I can trust that... Yeah, the folks who donated to John K's Kickstarter shouldn't have been very surprised, given his track record. John K is pretty much a victim of his own ego, and shitty work ethic; which is really sad, given that such an amazing show, and such creative talent was wasted on him.
The reason why the Fire Man randomly turns into a fat man in Fire Dogs 2, is because the fat man Fire Man variant in that episode was based on Ralph Bakshi, an underground cartoonist animator who was prolific in the late 1960's and 1970's. Ralph Bakshi was also John K's former boss. They worked together on the Mighty Mouse reboot from the 1980's. It was often told by both that they had a "Space Sprocket/George Jetson" chemistry where Ralph would hire/fire John. The things you see the Fire Man do in Fire Dogs 2 is based on things Ralph allegedly did in real life, so Fire Dogs 2 is like an in-joke, that most audiences were not aware of.
Mighty Mouse got very in-jokey at the end. Almost every episode had a reference to Ralph in there. Once or twice he was inspiration for the episode's villain design.
Sometimes they'd have episodes that were most likely cutting costs, like Scappy the orphan sneaking into a theater and ruining old Terrytoons filmstrips and him commenting over the old 50s footage. One of them was Scrappy remembering past events, which were a lot of scenes from older episodes. Except the dialogue in the clips were sometimes dubbed with some jewish voice that was often out of sync? I'll never get it. I'm sure they found it hilarious.
Mighty Mouse was a clever show. The best episode was where they ripped on Alvin and the Chipmunks for 11 minutes. Although look up the "Twitch and Writhe" clip and just by looking at those (probably) teen girls, you can tell John drew it. It was obvious from the beginning. I'm not sure how no one noticed.
I remember him complaining in the Beach Party Frenzy opening that he was rarely allowed to draw "sexy girls" for the cartoons, and only got some to slip through or something like that.
Which means he was implying that all those sexualised teen girls were hot in his eyes.
He might as well have worn a button saying "I'M INTO HEBEPHILIA" because he sucked at hiding it.
The main problem with John K is when he is in charge he doesn't show up to work. His artistic vision isn't what delayed the staff, it was because he was never there to tell them what to do and they couldn't start until he came back because he always made them redo everything. Even during the Adult Party Cartoon there would be days where he just didn't show up and they had to meet a deadline and so they just made the show without him.
He would rather just rant online about how bad everyone is instead of actually working. He was hired twice to make R&S and failed both times.
Adult Party Cartoon suffered from the same thing most "adult" cartoon shows do in that it throws literally everything gross and offensive at the viewer in lieu of actual entertainment. That's why people love the original more, because it wasn't hyper-focused on trying to be "adult". Lots of the most well-loved jokes from the series---Mr. Horse's paranoid rant followed by the walrus whispering "Call the pol-eeeeeeese" in Rubber Nipple Salesmen for example---had zero gross-out humor or anything offensive, it was all in the voice-acting delivery and animation.
Why I never liked that animated Comedy Central show "Drawn Together". Perfect example of an adult-themed cartoon that tries *way too hard* to be edgy and over-the-top. Feels so forced.
Ren and Stimpy Adult Party truly is awful. I watched the entire run of Ren and Stimpy from the Nickelodeon days a few years back. It was hysterical, the delivery, the comedy, the timing everything, as a product it was great, as an employee it must've been heel.
So I was excited when I found out there was a "sequel", adult party show (time? Jamboree? Hour?) And watched the first episode. It was also the last one.
When the show was on Nickelodeon there was an edge to the show, something pushing the boundaries of what is permited "technically" and pass through the censors. It was unlike anything before, as you said it, the nipple episode for instance. So when you have a boundary stopping you and you push it, it feels special, like what you're watching is wrong. It's fun.
Now when you have total freedom to do whatever, there's no boundary, there's no limit, you can do whatever, so there's no pushing anything, "yeah of course you can watch this, you're an adult, we trust you to be okay with watching this" so what's left with the show? Gross humor, shocking humor, sex humor, but if there's no substance to it, it just feels pointless, like a kid in high school who says the N word to shock people, pointless and immature.
Not that Ren And Stimpy back in Nick was mature, had poignant commentary or something like it, but it knew what could be funny with little, knew its audience and played with that. Whenever I watch a Ren and Stimpy episode now, I feel like a kid again, watching it during the night and kinda hiding it from my parents, it makes me feel like that gross weird childish humor from when I was young, an immature show for immature kids, and it made me feel like an immature kid again.
Adult Party Shenanigans doesn't, it makes me feel like an adult watching a childish show aimed at adults with nothing to show but crudeness.
That's why the original will forever remain a classic and the other one forgotten.
Wonderfully summarized. These are my exact feelings as well.
@@th3azscorpio thank you
@@Naruto_from_the_Naruto_show No prob👌 The part where you mention feeling like watching something do wrong, in seeing adult jokes in a kids show, really hits me. Brings back such wonderful memories.
@@th3azscorpio ✌😁
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no lol
@@timothyching6715 I don't think you're happy!
That avatar picture....
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If you ain't the grandaddy of all liars!
9:30 I wouldn't say that Stephen allowed a spin-off for Spongebob, It was announced after he died. Nick pretty much pulled the plans from under the rug before Stephen could have a say so and deny any of this from happening.
cinmoongoddess He also stated that if a show shows them as children or something like that, it’s over.
@@thegaybookpixie he had to fight to keep things in his vision, nick wanted to change so much and they pretty much whored out the sponge at this point
@Myka Ruest I honestly didn't like spongebob all that much and I was forced to watch it bc of my younger cousin, but I'm not gonna deny the huge impact it had in media, and for it to get flushed down the toilet and abused by nick at this point rather than Hillenberg's vision is sad.
cinmoongoddess
After his death?
That's literally down right fucking evil right there
@@75JUNAKI you bet your bottom dollar. Blameitonjorge did a mini doc on it. It's called "The Legacy of Spongebob SquarePants".
Downright evil and in poor taste.
I don’t think APC is tame at all, even by today’s ridiculous standards.
Hell naw it wasn't. Not even south park was as gross as it was.
@@th3azscorpio And at least South Park occasionally has a point to make.
This was just gross out for the sake of being gross out.
@@ktownshutdown21 I honestly wish SPIKE have never approached John about making this trash. The original was all we ever needed.
John k: CARTOONS FOR MEN!!!!
Also John k:🤓
1) John K. is a despicable human being.
2) He lifted much of what makes his "style" memorable from other artists.
3) The Games Animation episodes were fine.
4) Adult Party Cartoon is _exactly_ as trash as people say, and it proves that John K. wasn't as crucial to Ren & Stimpy's success as he wants people to believe.
"And then there's Doug."
Find a group of people who grew up in the 90s and start beatboxing the theme song. Just watch what happens.
Your character looks like the I'm not Stu nightmare from Rugrats
*Im not LS Mark HA HA HA HA!*
Video
Cons: The avatar version
Pros: The rest of the video
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Con: When LS Mark said that people get too worked up over Adult Party Cartoon (yet he said in an exaggerant way that it is awful)
Pros: Everything else
@ 0:00: This sums up the man's entire career in a nutshell.
Personally I feel like the show was less creative when it became adult party cartoon. Well sure being an adult party cartoon means that they don't have to limit themselves as to what they can show. But when they were under Nickelodeon they had to get creative with how they push the boundaries.
Wow you literally going to say almost the exact same thing I just commented lol.
@@ANDROIDAPEX Did you comment before watching or something?
@@venusianviking1733 yes yes I did.
adult cartoons have one problem.its not surprising anymore.like dark themes are not cool cause theyre not cool.
@@urmom-iy1eh They can be cool. It all about implementation.
I remember watching this one time on kiss cartoon
That’s 5 hours I am not getting back
Same actually
me rn
wtf did you do to your still
Stimpified it
@@safetyman4967 Made it worse*
@@michael120. I know
Huh, I didn't expect to see you here, Polecat.
@@ItsCosmoTewulf yeah, i be like that
You don’t understand how complex this anime gets when Ren finally impregnates Stimpy. The extra lore and nods to the source material John Kricfalusi adds can only be understood by TRUE fans like me!
XD
I’m afraid this is no laughing matter, my friend lol. That boss fight between Ren and Mr. Horse caused millions of boners worldwide.
Lmao
0:03 It almost sounds like the guy that yells out 'SEGA!' in the mid-late 90s.
I think if either John K or the network heads wanted more of the same but with a lot more profanity. Just Ren and Stimpy but with profanity.
John K Ls Mark Can't Hurt me
John K Ls Mark Can't Hurt me
John K Ls Mark Can't Hurt me
John K Ls Mark Can't Hurt me
Bob Camp is still a really cool dude
The “different character” the fire chief turns into in Fire Dogs 2 is Ralph Bakshi, if you don’t know, Ralph was the guy who made Fritz the Cat and Cool World, as well as Mighty Mouse where John K also worked on and even became Ralph’s protege
Yep
And appearently Ralph actually worked for Paramount during 1967 only for the cartoon studio to close down at the end of said year
John K and Nickelodeon needed each other. Nick forced John to be creative with his gross-out humor, and that's why the OG episodes were so good. Without that constant supervision, APC was a vile mess. It was never made to appease the Nick fans - it was always for the Spumco community. Let it rot in a festering spitoon.
Your avatar redesign for the vid makes me want to hide under my blanket and cry
Yeah it's ass
And This is another reason why People don't want A Ren and Stimpy Reboot.
I think that ls mark is super underated. You never see animators change their style based on the video idea. I love this channel!
I agree, but he's not an animator
Too bad he doesn't consider himself an animator, or this comment would be a bit more logical.
@@reverbthevocal421 It's not that he "doesn't consider himself an animator", he's literlly not an animator. He just don't fit the term
T_A_34 I never said he was, I said he didn't consider himself one.
@@reverbthevocal421 Well, it's like I said "I don't consider myself to be an architecture", my consideration doesn't matter. Because I'm not
Fun Fact: The voice of Stimpy from Adult Party Cartoon. Eric Bauza now voice Bugs Bunny, Daffy Duck, and more Looney Toons characters
Billy West, right?
@@moarmosspatoproductions1475 i meant Eric Bauza
I wouldn't mind John's insanity if it wasn't for the way he treats his colleagues and fellow animators. Seriously if a cartoon wasn't made by him, he would constantly shit-talk it and come up with conspiracies of how the creative teams are part of some corporate cabal to destroy creativity. Stuff like Batman TAS, Spongebob, Animaniacs, The Iron Friggin Giant. Fuck he's the one that started the whole Cal-Art phrase because he thinks characters looking kinda similar is part of Disney and Hanna-Barbera's plan to rule the world or some shit like that.
He didn't get Expelled, he dropped out of college.
I like how you change the style of your avatar for the shows you talk about multiple times.
I remember being so excited when I heard this was coming out while I was in middle school.... then I watched it. I don't think I even hated it I just felt sorry for it.
I know this is a 2 year old video but here is my story about the Adult Party stuff. To preface, I was born in 1994. Back when I was like 9 years old (I have a bad memory but I believe it was then) my mom had met my step dad. Now, I already had a previous step dad (don’t worry, I still stayed with my real dad too) but my previous step dad was… let’s just say: not that great. But I was a young kid and I was just happy to see my mom happy. But I didn’t know how this new person in my mom’s life would be like for her, and especially for me. But the one thing that made me bond with my step dad almost immediately was ren and stimpy. I had always watched reruns on tv but never got to see a bunch of new episodes, I really only watched a handful that I could catch here and there. But he had the dvds for like the first 2 seasons I believe. We watched the whole set all in one go, laughing our faces off. Quoting the show constantly. And that is my first and favorite memory of my step dad. But when adult party stuff came out, we were excited to see new ren and stimpy stuff! Granted I was like 15 or 16 now when we finally got a dvd and watched it and…. Boy… did we just not have a happy happy joy joy time. It felt so weird to watch and everything. We still have the dvd but we shutter at the thought of it.
Hey LS Mark; do you know just WHO the fire chief turned into in the episode "Fire Dogs 2"? That "different character" is, as Part 2 of the episode says, "Ralph Bakshi, the world's greatest cartoonist!" The episode wasn't making fun of fat people at all; creator John K used to work Ralph Bakshi on Mighty Mouse: The New Adventures, and Bakshi saved John K.'s career in animation at the time. In point of fact, that Mighty Mouse reboot was what really started the cartoonist-driven renaissance of the '90s-even more so than Ren & Stimpy, which people often think is what started that animation renaissance in the first place. Before Ren & Stimpy and after Mighty Mouse (Bakshi), John K & Sody Clampett also did a reboot of Beany & Cecil which included top talent like Dan Haskett and Michael Lah! Anyway, Ralph Bakshi is the ground-breaking animation guy behind The Lord of the Rings (1978), Cool World (1992), Fire and Ice (1983), Wizards (1977), and Malcolm and Melvin (Cartoon Network pilot). As an animation reviewer, you should at least know about Ralph Bakshi, and you might like looking into his stuff.
Billy West is a national treasure.
It takes real talent to be a slime ball like John K. Especially after what he did to one of the voice actors on Ren And Stimpy.
I think the problem people had with adult party cartoon was mainly Ren seeks help. Don't get me wrong. There is plenty of mean spirited gross cartoons but majority of them are edgy for he sake of being edgy. They also usually look like shit. Here you have a whole episode focusing on gross abuse that is well animated and seems like the abuse is fetishized. The quality and intent matters when it comes to presenting themes. and good quality with disturbing intent can gross people out more than any amount of puke or blood.
Omg YES. I totally agree with u
*Ren seeks help* Is my favorite episode of the adult party series. It was so dark and disturbing for an animation
Ren & Stimpy was such lightning in a bottle. Like The Beatles, I think John's team just fed off one another, and all were excited. Yet, I think John was torn between acting like his mentor Ralph Bakshi, and being a smooth hipster. Bakshi, as crazy as he was - had a vision for his end products. Gruff New Yorker, yes. But I think really cared for those that delivered and made his visions come true. John I think became more the "Steve Jobs" - give it style, promise, and cram it down peoples throats. Whereas Ren & Stimpy was more "Give it something, and let's see what happens?". He kinda started that way with The Ripping Friends as well. But again, had no real vision for the "end product". It's too bad, as John K. is truly a creative madman. But to survive on that reputation alone...?
If only we had a Ren and Stimpy Reboot cartoon that's more kid friendly.
in my opinion that would be better than the adult party cartoon.
That wouldn't work, either.
@@thestimpyfanclub8085 It would actually. In the spirit of the original.
Well your wish has been half granted
Comedy central's working on a reboot
@@JoseGonzalez-rh3pz Damn. I'm actually not sure how I feel about this. Especially if Bob Camp is not on board. It'll be a wokefest reimagining, and an unfunny one. Ren and Stimpy stood against everything the current PC culture stood for. I'm cautiously optimistic, but after the dismal success, and appeal of prior reboots, I'm leaning more towards a hard pass.
@@th3azscorpio So far Bob's wrote that he'll be shocked if he gets a call to work on it, so I wouldnt doubt if your intuition turns out to be right. Def hard pass for me too
Hey man I don't have a crush on your avatar anymore that's creepy
9:31 dude it's nickelodeon who made those spinoffs, they did it after Mr. Hillenburg died.
I'm glad the Spongebob adult party cartoon never happened, I hope they arrest John K.
I have to say 2 when I bought adult party on DVD I was laughing so hard. I've never seen this happen with any other children's cartoon and to see them this way was so new and funny to me. Looking back on the behind-the-scenes stuff it is a little awkward before I thought it was very inspiring to hear how things worked in the industry but John seems to be doing a lot of bitching and everyone just looked so uncomfortable lol
Spike TV: Hey let's do spongebob
*tries to grab him*
Spongebob: *screams* NOOOOOOO!!!!!
Stephen: *Beats up Spike and saves Spongebob* Never talk to me or my child again!
Spike TV: *Crys and die*
Therapist: John K Mark doesn't exist, he can't hurt you.
John K Mark:
Still got my complete ren and stimpy dvd collection, and I love it, one of the best animated series ever.
Woah woah why wasn’t Bob Camp talked about in this video?!!! He was the main guy behind the show.
@@notsusan More than the two that spoke out against him?
Ren: What kind of a psychologist are you!?
Mr. Horse: PSYCHOLOGIST!? Are you nuts!? I'm a horse!
Nightmare fuel should be against the rules of life
I think the reason the Adult Party version of the show was hated rather then just seen as "Meh" is kind of the same reason that a good chunk of sonic fans find a lot of modern games awful despite them being pretty "okay" games. They keep enough core components around to make them very very recognizable. Characters, themes, a familiar setting ect. can ring a lot in nostalgia. So when people hear that a new Ren and Stimpy show is coming out people already have expectations for it, for better or worse. Like a lot of people say, its not that grossout was new to the show, it was just done in an extreme way since there wasn't as much pushback from the people they were working for given it was an adult show. So even though the IDEAS were similar in style the way its done can sit differently with people. (Like i find the creepy closeups of spongebob to be super funny while the "Squidward stubs his toenail" is fucking gross). stuff like that can be relevant to shows like this as well. even if it "Seems" to be almost the same thing the vibe of the grossout changes or in the case of the frog episode the dark tones can sit different as well even if the first show also has dark tones.
Like in modern games sonic still runs fast and destroys robots but it wouldn't be hard to argue that Sonic 1 has a different vibe then Sonic Lost Worlds (besides the shift from 2D to 3D). you can also point out changes like this in other things that happen to last a long time or get rebooted. BUT there are series that happen to do this in good ways, sonic was just a good example of a series that i like the older stuff more but don't any longer due to story and gameplay changes. It also happens to bother me more because ive played the games forever and i want them to be something i like (but thats another rant)
Though this is just all my opinion i'm sure people hate it for different reasons then this but that's just something i've noticed. This is just one way something can be almost like the old thing but also not really.
Hey great video, but I honestly couldn't disagree more!
The adult party cartoon was a disturbing and disgusting show! Seriously, Ren Seeks Help was TERRIBLE!
A.S.K. Air Then there's "Stimpy's Pregnant"...*shudders*
You used the same character stills, better re-draw every fockin one of em'.
I can't take your character in this video as what its trying to be, to me its just a homer Simpson squidward fusion
mighty's memes uhh...
Doug was very cute it had its moments.
Some of the original show’s episodes such as A Visit to Anthony, Reverend Jack, Stimpy’s Cartoon Show and Son of Stimpy showcase how much of a despicable man he truly is.
0:03 SEGA!
0:40 Some music; Warehouse District, Sonic ‘06
2:20 Asteroid Coaster Act 2, Sonic Colors
4:19 Crisis City (Modern), Sonic Generations
6:42 Mad Space, Sonic Adventure 2
7:19 Wave Ocean, Sonic ‘06
10:08 Stardust Speedway (Present) (JP), Sonic CD
"The Ripping Friends" was a funnier show than Ren and Stimpy: APC
Was that clip in the beginning of the video actually taking footage of John K shouting real or fake?
Knowing him probably real
@@dorytehfish3100 Definitely real alright.
@@ExtremeWreck thanks
@治虫手塚 any source of the full interview of the news?
Adult Party Cartoon is the cartoon comedy equivalent of A Serbian Film.
Why did the Cartoon Network logo appear in Ren and Stimpy?
Your videos keep getting better and better
The creator looks like austin powers
0:02 press f to pay respect for that lamp that got punched
Old Nickelodeon was amazing i especially love courage the cowardly dog it was so creepy if you have seen the return the slab guy you know what I'm talking about
Wrong network dude, I think you meant Cartoon Network since Courage the Cowardly Dog was on Cartoon Network
@@eeveeee6201 shit just realized that still a great show though
Courage the Cowardly dog is a pretty good cartoon.
@@DCNRS90YT yeah not a Nickelodeon show but it's still amazing
*Who's the pitcher? Who's the catcher?*
you're the pitcher, I'm the catcher
you're the pitcher, I'm the catcher
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2:14
Sonic voice actors in a nutshell
I’ve never watched an episode of the original Ren and Stimpy, but I have fully watched Ren Seeks Help out of sheer curiosity.
Please kill me. I want to die so badly.
I don't blame you. I'll call the paramedics immediately
What was the whole episode about?
@@spag911 Watch it for yourself
Damn you really did Doug like dat😔
Nobody remembers Doug besides the people who grew up with it.
a kids cartoon with a. adult variant or age rating rise is weird
Actually, to explain that Fire Dogs episode in APC, John apparently wanted to get a guest appearance from the guy he used to work for - the father of pure adult animation himself, Ralph Bakshi. He just exaggerated his body type GREATLY. Which, by the way, Bakshi's films are actually fantastic to watch. Low budget, sure, but still some great experiences.
My problem with the show is how it takes the magic out of the original. The original pushed standards on what could air. It had a filter. With adult party cartoon, they can do whatever they want. Without it pushing standards and just being an adult cartoon, is it really Ren and Stimpy?
Luke Jarrett No it really isn’t without The charm it wouldn’t really be ren and stimpy
I really dislike when something is forced to be a rating like it has to have swearwords and gross out because its adult, Its why I liked ren and simpy and my favorite show of all time regular show because as a kid you can enjoy it but also as an adult you can get more and still enjoy it
The leaks for the new Ren and Stimpy reboot are online. From what I have seen it seems they are trying to be true to the spirit and style of the original series but also make a little updated. Its hard not to think of John K when watching but maybe it can go beyond the creator and be a fun take on the characters. Maybe the need comeback for a new generation
The original voice for stimpy REFUSED to voice in these adult cartoons for being too cruel
I hate it when people say all the show is is "pointless gross-out" when there's only a decent amount. There's also too much hate for the Games era which is still amazing
0:20 GOOD FUCKING LORD GET IT OFF THE SCREEN GET IT OFF THE SCREEN
"I didnt wanna work on the shows that everyone else heted working on... so i had a dream to sell my own show that everyone hated working on".
Finally! After 5 years Mark finished the video!
Let me guess, this was what you watched?
Yes,
And it was beautiful,...
Soo yea, thanks for that Adult Party
the shows fine, but It became the main reason why cartoons are not the same anymore
fire dogs 2 was making fun of an old colleague Ralph Bashki, the guy who started the Mighty Mouse revival
I always thought the "I'll show you how to pull a man's zipper down" joke was really out of place for Ren.
The Ren and Stimpy is still the shit.
Amen
The *only* episode of Ren & Stimpy "Adult Party Cartoon" that I've seen is "Fire Dogs 2". I don't plan on changing that anytime soon!