for people who are confused in comments: there are different instruments in a lot of countries and regions in Iran and middle Asia called "Dotar", however they are widely different in shape and sound and so on. there are also other instruments that have two strings but are not called dotar. this particular dotar is played in the north of Khorasan in Iran.
i'm glad to see you! are the first person i saw speaking this fantastic instrument in EN that I have been learning about for a decade, I liked your musicological analysis a lot. I recently made a video discussing different types of northern dotar, their dotar comes from northern Khorassan though I don't know exactly where, probably from Esfarayen or Shirvan. Anyway, your northern dotar is a jewel, I would like to know their story! Greetings from Spain!
Thank you for educating me on this beautiful instrument. I am learning to play the setar, and have often wondered what the differences between dotar and setar might be. I think the dotar is similar to the tanbur, isn't it?
این ساز اسمش دوتاره و برای شمال خراسانه اصالتا برای کرمانج هاست . همچنین سبک های مختلفی داره مثل ترکی ترکمنی مازنی . This instrument is called dotare and it is originally for Kurmanj for North Khorasan. It also has different styles, such as Turkish, Turkmen, Mazni.
Can a turkish long neck baglama be transformed into a dotar? I know it doesnt have the same length but I wanted to play a bit with this thing before my strings arrive. Anyone ever tried?
I did it with a cura baglama, and it sounds great. It has also more microtonal frets than an actual Khorasani dutar, which I think is pretty cool. The only problem is that you can't really press the upper string with your thumb, like it's traditionally played in Iran. I don't know if it would work with a long neck though.
2 года назад
@@edgarviens I was thinking that since baglama and dotar have roughly the same lengths It could work. Gonna give it a go now, my old chords are not even good anymore anyway. If you used baglama/saz chords I assume you used only first and last chords right?
@ No, actually, I use the two bottom strings, because on a cura saz (and I think it’s the same for all types of saz, Im not sure) the upper string is higher in pitch then the one in the middle. And, if you try to tune it down a fourth or a fifth bellow the bottom string, the upper string is gonna be too loose and it wont sound as good. The only problem with that, as I stated earlier, is that by doing that, you cant’t really use your thumb to press your new upper string (so the one in the middle), like it’s traditionally played on a real Khorasani dutar. Plus anyway, since the neck of a baglama is thicker than a dutar neck, if you pull off the upper string of your saz, and you replace it with a set of doubled strings with a bigger gauge, you wont be able to achieve this, because of the sixe of the neck. I hope it helped.
2 года назад+1
@@edgarviens yep I used the bottom strings, I got the results as you stated here so I decided to move the string more up but the distance between the strings made it weird to play and using my thumb is difficult because of the neck baglama has. Well, it does sounds nice to be honest, it is a dotar because it means "two strings" but not very khorasani hehehe. Now I added a third one just for the fun and ended up getting a bulgarian tambura vibe. I think Im not gonna use my new strings yet I'll buy a new baglama because I noticed the one I have, the middles strings don't sound quite good, as expected from a cheap entry level instrument. Thanks a lot for your tips they did helped!
@nistafunny5128 dombra, or the original name, kopuz, is the father of the dutar. 2 stringed instrument are descendants of the kobyz, the oldest instrument in the world. Every Turkic country has this instrument but also Iran. I really wonder why? 🤔 is it because the Persians were ruled for 1000 years by the Turks like the Safavid, Akkoyunlu, Harezmşah and Qajar???
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for people who are confused in comments: there are different instruments in a lot of countries and regions in Iran and middle Asia called "Dotar", however they are widely different in shape and sound and so on. there are also other instruments that have two strings but are not called dotar. this particular dotar is played in the north of Khorasan in Iran.
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Thank you 'Hamshahri :)' for sharing our beautiful music with the world. good information and performance.
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i'm glad to see you! are the first person i saw speaking this fantastic instrument in EN that I have been learning about for a decade, I liked your musicological analysis a lot. I recently made a video discussing different types of northern dotar, their dotar comes from northern Khorassan though I don't know exactly where, probably from Esfarayen or Shirvan. Anyway, your northern dotar is a jewel, I would like to know their story! Greetings from Spain!
It is so beautiful. Thank you!
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Thank you for educating me on this beautiful instrument. I am learning to play the setar, and have often wondered what the differences between dotar and setar might be. I think the dotar is similar to the tanbur, isn't it?
Can you make more tutorials for beginners please. Fantastic videos!
این ساز اسمش دوتاره و برای شمال خراسانه اصالتا برای کرمانج هاست . همچنین سبک های مختلفی داره مثل ترکی ترکمنی مازنی .
This instrument is called dotare and it is originally for Kurmanj for North Khorasan. It also has different styles, such as Turkish, Turkmen, Mazni.
دوتار اصالتا ساز فارسی هست همانطور که از نامش پیداست از سازهای درباریه هرات جام
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How do you tune it please?
Can a turkish long neck baglama be transformed into a dotar? I know it doesnt have the same length but I wanted to play a bit with this thing before my strings arrive. Anyone ever tried?
I did it with a cura baglama, and it sounds great. It has also more microtonal frets than an actual Khorasani dutar, which I think is pretty cool. The only problem is that you can't really press the upper string with your thumb, like it's traditionally played in Iran. I don't know if it would work with a long neck though.
@@edgarviens I was thinking that since baglama and dotar have roughly the same lengths It could work. Gonna give it a go now, my old chords are not even good anymore anyway. If you used baglama/saz chords I assume you used only first and last chords right?
@ No, actually, I use the two bottom strings, because on a cura saz (and I think it’s the same for all types of saz, Im not sure) the upper string is higher in pitch then the one in the middle. And, if you try to tune it down a fourth or a fifth bellow the bottom string, the upper string is gonna be too loose and it wont sound as good. The only problem with that, as I stated earlier, is that by doing that, you cant’t really use your thumb to press your new upper string (so the one in the middle), like it’s traditionally played on a real Khorasani dutar. Plus anyway, since the neck of a baglama is thicker than a dutar neck, if you pull off the upper string of your saz, and you replace it with a set of doubled strings with a bigger gauge, you wont be able to achieve this, because of the sixe of the neck. I hope it helped.
@@edgarviens yep I used the bottom strings, I got the results as you stated here so I decided to move the string more up but the distance between the strings made it weird to play and using my thumb is difficult because of the neck baglama has. Well, it does sounds nice to be honest, it is a dotar because it means "two strings" but not very khorasani hehehe. Now I added a third one just for the fun and ended up getting a bulgarian tambura vibe. I think Im not gonna use my new strings yet I'll buy a new baglama because I noticed the one I have, the middles strings don't sound quite good, as expected from a cheap entry level instrument. Thanks a lot for your tips they did helped!
Very cool I always wanted one, but online there are so many varioations some have 9 frets, 4,6, 11, 12, frets and all that it is confusing haha.
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*really nice and perfect instrument*😊 thank you for intoduce this powerfull instrument , you can enjoy the maqams of this instrument in my channel ❤❤
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Dutar Is From Khurasan Region of Iran 🇮🇷
This is Uygur national Instrument
Its Kazakh dombra, not dutar 🙂
No bro this is dutar it sounds different Kazakh dombra is different
It’s Turkmen dutar 😄
😂😂😂😂😂 it’s Dotar, a Persian instrument 😉
You could also argue that it's Albanian cifteli. But they just come from the common ancestor.
@nistafunny5128 dombra, or the original name, kopuz, is the father of the dutar. 2 stringed instrument are descendants of the kobyz, the oldest instrument in the world. Every Turkic country has this instrument but also Iran. I really wonder why? 🤔 is it because the Persians were ruled for 1000 years by the Turks like the Safavid, Akkoyunlu, Harezmşah and Qajar???